Episode 142 | “One Carnival”

In Episode 142, we sit down with Kayla & Stefan from Wristband, one of Cayman’s most popular carnival bands. They share the story of Wristband’s creation,  the challenges behind the scenes with CAYMAS, and why they took 2025 off the road.
We cover everything from committee politics, stormers, One Carnival, and the real cost of getting on the road. If you love Cayman Carnival or want to understand the business, this is a must listen. 

Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;26;11
Unknown
Welcome to the Link Up Podcast episode one for two I'm doing. Yeah, yeah. 142 first time joining us last time. Join us. We appreciate it nonetheless. Call me what you like. I play host, but for another week, I have my, my trusty sidekick. I was going to say from gun Bay, but he, correct me is just a sign that I literally said trusty sidekick in my head.

00;00;26;16 - 00;00;44;47
Unknown
So you. I felt like you trying it. You trying to teleport, you trying to guess, right? So I guess. Right. Okay. Whoa. Okay. This is good to have you back, though. It's good to have you back. I missed you, so forget Chris, who's from San Sam love. Well, I'm not from San Bluff. You were just. So what you just said.

00;00;44;47 - 00;01;03;42
Unknown
Did you not just say you from some? No, no. Well, he said gun be. I mean, if you want to talk about currently where my mother is, she's in some stuff, but that's not right. Where do you identify that you are from? Red Bay. You. Oh. Oh. So don't want all that? I was just. No way. What are you talking as well?

00;01;03;42 - 00;01;26;33
Unknown
No. Because, like, where I spent all my time in East End was in East End. You're defending your mom. I appreciate, you know, I was on front road. Okay. Not backward. Not not back road and not land road because we have good. Right. The east. If people general people don't victory. No. Not more than places. I know I said I once I was about someone to be from East and it was like gun bay.

00;01;26;38 - 00;01;47;06
Unknown
I was like, is all the same. But yeah. All right. Sorry, Bob, I apologize. We have a guest here. Let me. Yeah. My was so. Yeah. To my left I have my my my guy here Chris from Red Bay represent and Red Bay massive. You know what I mean. One of the longest harbors RBM. You know me. Oh the real thing pre Grand Harbor days y'all I never Bush was the first bush baby.

00;01;47;11 - 00;02;08;26
Unknown
That's right the OG is back. Her nails are done. Oh. Soon to be done again. Oh hi guys. I'm back and it's been, like, forever. You left us longer. You told us. I feel like every time I come. It been a long time. I feel like I apologize every time. Oh, you know why? Because every time you come to, we can use the episodes afterwards.

00;02;08;26 - 00;02;24;36
Unknown
The last two times. You. Yeah. That wasn't our fault, though. I was at her fault, though. Oh, a lot of people fucking point with, like, everybody. Did you go, Chris, listen to this episode. Got it out the way I think with me now. Oh, did. Okay. How quick was the f bomb in there? Real quick, but it's okay.

00;02;24;41 - 00;02;40;20
Unknown
Wait. Victor, DM, DM to page no on the page up there and be like, yo, what was the reason why we didn't drop the last episode? I don't even know. So follow follow the page while you out. So what was funny about that is that when you came on that second time, you said, yo, last one was here.

00;02;40;20 - 00;02;42;24
Unknown
We couldn't use the F, so and then

00;02;42;37 - 00;02;59;14
Unknown
happened again the same night. Well, I didn't say it this time, so maybe it will work. We just start undermining our business. Yeah. No, I was me because the literally scrolling looking at recipes on Pinterest like, you know, one of those like dinner, you know, you know, like when the com is happening and it's like a hurricane behind you.

00;02;59;14 - 00;03;25;05
Unknown
They're they're doing everything. And Kelly, just sit down there at the com I was not this big Dragon Ball Z fight happening behind us is you know what it was in that store. It was it was it was right there. It was right there. Smack down right here. Yeah. Definitely was definitely was mean. When we do the, like, the, the Hollywood stuff, the doc, we're going to have to, like, come to YouTube.

00;03;25;10 - 00;03;42;57
Unknown
We're going to have to, dig that up and do some clips from that, because it was gold. It was gold in there. That was good. There was gold in there. Mix for good. I mean, so happy. You so happy. Somebody got Eric Gordon. Yeah, we know who got it. You got it? No, it was somebody else, right?

00;03;42;58 - 00;03;59;38
Unknown
Yeah, it was a him. Because we had to use something else. Okay. Yeah. So as rough. It's rough. Is is good to have you back. I'm happy to be back. You did a rebrand, and I still. I'm not happy I went in time to someone is rebrand is you were giving it up on us. You up the title is speaking.

00;03;59;42 - 00;04;22;28
Unknown
That was like a very highly rated show. And then you just went like corporate on us is. That's all I want. I work promises, I got busy work from missing like, you know, targets of the mind business that is paying me. Okay. You know run me that money. Yeah. Crispy. Also to, among his me wrong is stuff with the f with an f.

00;04;22;32 - 00;04;30;26
Unknown
Yeah. And Bob and Bob. No s to be on the first thing Victor did. Bob's what? You see? I'm

00;04;30;37 - 00;04;41;05
Unknown
that up. It's all good, bro. And that's a cultural thing, too. We are. This is on Earth. Yeah. This is the first game here. Not the first time it was called. Bob's repeatedly. So you figured it out?

00;04;41;05 - 00;04;57;00
Unknown
You looked a little triggered. There's no. Yeah, there's a little bit, with all good. I thought it was more of a Spanish thing to Ireland. S on the the end. We find, like blacks, we don't see people called Joe Button. Joe buttons. Buttons. I've never seen. You've never heard that I'm. Never comes all the time. It's not.

00;04;57;00 - 00;05;12;21
Unknown
It's not black. It's blacks. Everything is a, I mean, one two things, but. So you came out with a story for us. I was like, I don't have to dig up the Tony speaking to kind of just reminisce. Yeah, but the thing for us, I don't think age. I don't really have anything spicy. Are we are we going to be serious?

00;05;12;21 - 00;05;29;48
Unknown
The little thing, I don't think. I don't want to be serious. If I remember something, I'll let you guys normally do a little dip. So, Chris, remind me of something we should do on Food Octopus. Honestly speaking, our podcast had link up. We used to read your DNA was on here. Is there anything? Let me see. Let Chris let Christie just move the.

00;05;29;48 - 00;05;51;33
Unknown
I don't know if I have anything good. Oh, one that I had the other day. I think I deleted it because I clean it up every so often because it's stupid. Hi, hi, hi. Oh. That person, that was Facebook. I'm saying hi every day when I'm in Dorado. And then they did that. And then you don't respond to them and they still keep going.

00;05;51;33 - 00;06;11;55
Unknown
I'm like, do you expect that one day I'm just going to respond. I know, like I got assistance, you know, you know, what's like a funny story like almost every girl has when, some random guy approaches them, whatever the line that they kind of run is. So we can't be friends over. That's true. Not do in bro.

00;06;12;00 - 00;06;33;26
Unknown
And then their responses. I have enough friends. Yeah. All of minor like. Hi. Good night. You must be wondering why this random guy texting me. The answer to that is I think you're really beautiful. Oh, he hit you with riddles. Whoa. Okay, well, that one was some effort. No better than a. Hey, this message was removed. He took it back.

00;06;33;33 - 00;06;54;19
Unknown
Yeah, well, he was drunk one night. Going through. Going through the, the IG. And then I got that a lot, like. Hi. You're so beautiful. Happy new year. Like, it's just I know, we don't know. I get calls to, like, people called me. Random call. Yes. Random calls, either on Facebook or Instagram. And it is the strangest thing because I'm like, I have not had any communication with some of these people.

00;06;54;19 - 00;07;12;51
Unknown
I'm like, you just decided that, yeah, they sort of it's just sort of post-modern. It's creeping the bikini policies. Oh God. Yeah, I get stressful. I put on it's, girl over there. All right. Yeah. That's good. And so it's been a while. Chris, what's up with you, bro? On me? I see you watching baseball because Ferrari still, you know, Ferrari.

00;07;12;51 - 00;07;35;20
Unknown
And, you know, I've been taking more active interest and active interest in. It's summer in summertime. What's her name? That's not what I sounded like. It was summertime sports. Just because, you know, it's. Things are down. Yeah, yeah, there's no sports on. So I figured I would, you know, find something that I could watch. So Premier League is back now.

00;07;35;25 - 00;07;53;04
Unknown
Baseball is on. Football is coming back. Yeah NFL starting back. So. Oh so you mentioned baseball. Don't want to talk about coach. Bill and coach I'm in over there at Little League at Irvin on my boy. He's a big boy. Oh yeah. Yeah. So so it's a little league and all the good work boy can drink. Whoa.

00;07;53;04 - 00;08;11;25
Unknown
Who brought that? How do we get there? That's a good nice with him by his mom. Is it. Oh, did we get there? Sorry. It goes off and all of a sudden. Yeah. We had some good times. Shout out to my boy Ivan. Yeah. You got a lot of drunken stories, though, and you don't know as much as you need us.

00;08;11;25 - 00;08;26;21
Unknown
Don't sell sweet sports to him. Oh, yeah. That's his. And he's. I'm a fly. I'm coaching. I'm drunk. We went to after to celebrate. You see him on a Saturday morning for me? Is he just moving slow on my wife? I need coffee.

00;08;26;26 - 00;08;42;18
Unknown
That was the first time I ever attended a staff party. You talked about that? Oh. That one? Yeah. Did you get any of you, too, by the way? Don't mind me. Okay? That's all I see. Yeah. Sorry. We were much better than this. I apologize, I don't hold up your time. So does the. Bob. Thank you for joining us.

00;08;42;23 - 00;09;04;54
Unknown
Respond. No bun or no bun. I like the I like the branding. Like the tag. Who came up with our name. Respond. Yeah. I respond. Oh that's a, that's a long story. That is Bob, questions for the sake of being concise. Years ago, a friend of mine from Barbados, he wanted to capture a tourist experience.

00;09;04;59 - 00;09;22;54
Unknown
My crop over from start to finish. That's from the time they land at the airport collecting costumes, etc., etc.. And, the name he came up for that initiative was responding was a, it was a give my guess to the community, the culture. And so I want to start carnival calling serious. Are you saying I'm taking four people from came on the Barbie that's for carnival.

00;09;22;54 - 00;09;39;56
Unknown
And I said to him, well, you know, if you're going to capture everything, then how will I provide the people for you? So we agreed to do this thing. He ended up getting married and moving to Canada, and so, you know, it touched me this way. Maybe a couple months later. I see, you know, what's the plan?

00;09;39;56 - 00;10;00;15
Unknown
What do you want to do with this? Rest my thing going forward? He said yes. You know, table it because he's moving. Always leave. Has other things going on. So I asked for his blessing, you know. Look. Oh, look how Mark slows you down, bro. I messed him right up, bro. Chris. Stay single, my boy. Stacy. But, you know, tell me.

00;10;00;20 - 00;10;21;12
Unknown
Yeah. They're like, you giving me advice that I should be giving you some advice. The party, you know, focus. But no, no. Yeah. He, he got married, and so I asked him for his blessing to take it forward. And, you know, he was fine with it. Long time friend. I'm known since I was maybe 11 or 12 years old.

00;10;21;12 - 00;10;41;52
Unknown
So, Yeah, that's how the name initially came from. We started out doing, Carnival Concierge. At first I went ahead with that. Came on to Barbie, this initiative, maybe for 2 or 3 years. And then after that cool vision into. Well, yeah, after Covid transitioned into a full band. And yeah, here we are now. Yeah, yeah, we took this year off though.

00;10;41;52 - 00;11;05;30
Unknown
But no, you yeah, yeah. This year it was what was it. But like but you guys like had a co meteoric rise because you went you went from like a section to then the next year being the biggest band. How did that happen. Like that just doesn't happen overnight. I mean look to your left. Let's say you left.

00;11;05;35 - 00;11;26;26
Unknown
Let's see a little, you know if you take credit. Well it was honestly it was fast I think or first two years going to get my you're one was just on the 30 people. You're too close to 100 a year. Three. We broke under the first name, but then coming on as a full band, it was around 500 people.

00;11;26;30 - 00;11;49;39
Unknown
And our first year of the full band. And then after that we probably doubled on the move. So from from 30 to 1000. And you know how much time, 5 or 6 years. If if you take less, I'm gonna say that as someone who watches from the outside, and being close to it for years and you've just heard the horror stories, bro, of people with bad service spending this money.

00;11;49;44 - 00;12;09;29
Unknown
Yeah. Day before the carnival outfits. And I'm not ready yet. No. Like, come and meet me. Let me glue this piece on for you. So I remember hearing that type of feedback about respect from the jump was that, you guys had really good, I guess, customer service or that was, that was your competitive advantage when they saw that compete.

00;12;09;38 - 00;12;28;25
Unknown
Yeah. And I think because you guys are so close to it, you guys have experience of other bands. Yeah. So you knew what not to do it. Honestly, the carnival industry is volatile in a lot of ways. You know, the more aspects of your situation you own, the easier it becomes. But the issue is that you were outsourcing so many different things.

00;12;28;29 - 00;12;47;10
Unknown
So, like, I'm not making the costumes. I'm not I don't have the trucks. I'm not doing the printing. So it it's we're not the bartenders. Exactly. So, a bandleader from Barbie, this phrase this way, he said, we're in the carnival band is organized chaos. Is absolutely correct. I think it's the best way to categorize it.

00;12;47;15 - 00;13;11;45
Unknown
But to your point, I think our competitive advantage at the end of the day is that we are our own demographic. So, I got to tell you how many how many lanes that we had did not buy horses for costumes. You know, how many duvets, how many breakfast fits, how many times I've done the carnival marathon, from airport to fat to fat to breakfast fat to duvet to fat to roll to after I've done that so many times.

00;13;11;45 - 00;13;34;52
Unknown
So when it comes to US servicing, you know that 21 to 35 year old demographic, you know, I mean we're a bubble the past 35 right. So I mean someone but for right now, we are marketing a product to ourselves. We still are. You know, the masquerade itself. Yeah. I guess it comes naturally, though. I wouldn't. I don't want to jinx.

00;13;34;56 - 00;13;58;06
Unknown
I want us to make things can go wrong completely under your control. But, yeah, I think that's why we've done such a good job thus far. Yeah. I like the, I guess I was also Rashad to. Rashad is the the father. Phil is loving you guys. Oh, yeah. Ellerby. Yeah, we have more than that. Was had when he was falling in love with Martino.

00;13;58;11 - 00;14;19;15
Unknown
Okay. And this is true. That boy, that he really had a really good time. He definitely, He I like to see tourists. Like to see celebrities, like, see people enjoy game one. Yeah, yeah. Him and Nandi who we brought back last year as a matter of fact. They love it here. My, they really enjoy the island the people food.

00;14;19;20 - 00;14;35;45
Unknown
But yeah. Yeah that that event I love it. We kind of decided that we wanted to do something with because between the end of Carnival in June, July and then by, like, seasonally following a year, there's a period of just, you know, nothing going on. Yeah. So just to keep the brand alive, to do a little pop up event.

00;14;35;45 - 00;14;57;01
Unknown
And it happened naturally. The same guy I told you about Quincy, he's now a videographer. Cinematographer. And he did a lot farther for this in music videos, so he gave me his come on top. And, yeah, I did the relationship first from there. My he's a genuine to. So he's fun. But the I mean, you guys were literally in your prime.

00;14;57;06 - 00;15;18;25
Unknown
And then it was literally like in 94 and 93 season Jordan and and was his retirement. I know that's the perfect. So that's a perfect, perfect example. But but you know, he that wasn't an actual retirement though. Well even the rumors of. Yeah. So but this is the same thing. Yeah yeah yeah okay okay. So what is the situation.

00;15;18;30 - 00;15;41;40
Unknown
Why. Because when when the when the press release went out there was mass panic and all the group shots. So I heard they were like thinking is their internal turmoil. Did that, did the family mash up? No. No, that someone had a gambling debt, you know. Yeah. Well go on. Well, I mean to to the, to the point about internal conflict.

00;15;41;40 - 00;16;05;46
Unknown
Like I argue with them every year, like that's hey, listen, listen, listen, let's let's let's let's, that episode become what can we argue as a, as a business owner reorganize. We fight Chris don't do conflict. So they send me. I do all of that. Yeah. But it's but I we get it. Yeah, we get it. Is is is normal.

00;16;05;46 - 00;16;26;23
Unknown
That's, Yeah. So I mean argument if argument something so I'd be surprised and I, I've notoriously said to them like the fact that you're willing to argue me, show me that you care. Of course. So of course, you know, that's not a problem for me, but, my son was the primary reason, you know, like, my first kid, I think you and I spoke briefly.

00;16;26;28 - 00;16;44;26
Unknown
I don't about not having, my father in my life. And so once I found out I was having a kid. You know, I know there's no way I'd be able to balance Carnival with raising him on I. As a first time parent, I won't experience everything I don't have to sit on. You know, I wasn't busy with the band and and especially my lady to also be in the first thing.

00;16;44;26 - 00;17;03;50
Unknown
Mom, I don't want to, you know, serve my responsibilities or to leave her to endure anything alone. So my son was the primary reason I stand by that 100%. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We caught up at a case. I just said don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in addition to that, you know, there were tons of difficulties with the K mask committee in 2024.

00;17;03;55 - 00;17;27;48
Unknown
And ultimately, that's what led to me making my post. That's what's this, what's this post you speak of? Well, holistic when you when you say difficulties, I mean, that's what I'm saying. When, are you to unpack are these, like, creative differences or these, like, financial differences or these planning issues? Planning issues, for sure. You know, all of us often in here.

00;17;27;48 - 00;17;55;41
Unknown
I'm sorry. You have to apologize to everybody for the coughing. I think, you know, one of the major tenets of, integrity is, is transparency and accountability. And I think particular members of the K mask committee like that tremendously. And that then led to, friction between us and them. Well, me and them, last year.

00;17;55;41 - 00;18;03;59
Unknown
So I can, I can get into I appreciate the accountability you say meeting them. Yeah, I appreciate that. Is

00;18;04;17 - 00;18;20;30
Unknown
just just just just just just just just just ask this question real quick. Yes or no is first of all, it came was I thought they said that he's no longer on the, on the committee or the board, but then on the day of the of the parade, he was doing their live video.

00;18;20;34 - 00;18;35;22
Unknown
So okay, okay. He's still I guess he's still involved in some of the things. Okay. Because we just want those are his life. So me and Chris, diva, please. Festival run up on us again, bro. It wasn't. It'll be fun. You trying to see us is just like everybody else is all love. Don't run about Chris again.

00;18;35;22 - 00;18;52;03
Unknown
This started out well. He wanted to come on the show. Yeah, yeah. We couldn't. Yeah, he wanted to address me. That's what it was about. Yeah. Well know. See, it's always Kayla for. I told you that it's because I speak and I say listen. So. So you think I'm about to say regarding anybody on the team committee? As a matter of opinion.

00;18;52;03 - 00;19;10;41
Unknown
I'm just telling the truth. Yeah. So if somebody gets upset, I'm telling the truth. Then there's, you know, so, so, so, so let me let me run it back real quick. So, the loss of Anna took place came was, I think maybe later that day or the next day, you had a post that went viral? Basically. Yeah.

00;19;10;46 - 00;19;26;50
Unknown
So tell me about the post and then we can, we can give me a little bit of the back story after that. So, no, I wrote this to be clear, because I think at that point what message me and acts me if I was upset or something, I to be clear, I had I had my son in one hand.

00;19;26;55 - 00;19;46;28
Unknown
He was watching the chickens also, you know, the my front porch and my phone in the next while talking to my lady at the same time, it was very, very calm bringing up. It's because you said the name thing. No, that's why wasn't it? Oh, and when you get right, get in. Oh yeah. With an S, I saw another you outside some of the front door telling him, you know, you know, people are always messing up my name.

00;19;46;28 - 00;20;07;17
Unknown
I so I just threw it in there to be funny. Make sure you okay. But if I, if I can if I can just get into it and and start because I think once I get to the end of the story, you'll understand why. Why it took me so long to see anything in the first place. Because I could have voiced my concerns right after Carnival 2024, but I chose not to because I just couldn't be bothered.

00;20;07;17 - 00;20;29;23
Unknown
But, essentially the way this started was, we were told at the beginning of the year that this is the beginning of 2025, 2024, 2024. Okay. Yeah. So, so before the 2024 carnival season kick started with my word. When our costume designs, etc. etc. first registered owner came us the understanding was our duties was be covered 100%.

00;20;29;28 - 00;20;53;09
Unknown
That turned out not to be the case. We were forced to pay a significant sum, which was covered by the Kimye government. So, you know, my thanks to to the former minister, Kenneth Brand for helping with that. But we were told our duties were to be covered. We ended up paying a significant sum, to cover our duties that we were our costume duties are is on whether we were imported or we ended up being the only band that had paid duties.

00;20;53;09 - 00;21;15;17
Unknown
To my knowledge. No one eight approached a canvas committee about whatever this miscommunication was. The first person said, well, that was not my responsibility. You know, talk to the other person. Second person said the same thing. Everybody just it wasn't me, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. Finally got to that person. And they basically said, oh, well, the government said nothing and tell us nothing.

00;21;15;21 - 00;21;37;40
Unknown
We thought it was be covered is not our fault. It's not our fault. The, it's like. So we end up hopping on a call with someone from government to which our person said, you know, to first off, I was the third person that I'm speaking about. When did the government say it to you? At any point in time, that duties would be covered this year.

00;21;37;45 - 00;22;04;03
Unknown
That was a meeting point, because I'm assuming every single financial year funds have to be reconsidered. The question was, did anybody say to us explicitly that the duties would be covered? And he could not ask this question directly to save his life. So that was the first, I guess, mix up, to which we got zero help from the canvas committee in clearing that issue.

00;22;04;08 - 00;22;25;42
Unknown
It was through Rashad, through Kenny from Brian, that we end up getting our duties covered at the end of the day, closer to the end of the carnival season. But we had to cough up a significant sum, and it was almost like they were of no help whatsoever. They kept saying that, you know, they're going to go and talk to people in government, they're having meetings, etc., etc. nobody, nobody even checked.

00;22;25;42 - 00;22;46;52
Unknown
I think one person asked after the fact like, you know, see you guys good know or something like that. But it it really didn't really give a damn. And we were the biggest volunteer of that year. That also led to I mean, this is the first point here that also led to us almost missing our distribution team because we had back enforcement customs that entire week and a half regarding the duties.

00;22;46;57 - 00;23;10;27
Unknown
We didn't. If we had distribution at 12 p.m. on Monday, we cleared our costumes at like 730 in night on Friday. And of course DHL isn't open Saturday on Sunday. So we, we we we, we were this close to entirely screwing up our schedule and potentially not making it to the road. And that was a 100% on them.

00;23;10;27 - 00;23;38;50
Unknown
No, listen, I understand that things change. If the government changed their minds on something, fine. But the minister did bring up a fair point. Did you confirm this? So to me, that is is and this is the point he made to sort of to the to the committee to look at somebody. Yeah. Look like to, to me that is just you being disorganized and, and you know, I don't think there's any excuse for that if you're not running the band anymore.

00;23;38;50 - 00;23;55;20
Unknown
Right. I think not running a band is one of the hardest job you ever have. You are the organizing board. You are on the committee. You are supposed to be looking not for the bands and making sure they're good. But you put us in a position where you almost entirely messed up everything for us. Okay, so that was point number one.

00;23;55;25 - 00;24;22;59
Unknown
I guess if y'all have any questions on that number and then we will get the 3.5 figures. We're talking five figures. Are we talking. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And you go crazy man. You and I think I think for me I guess what my annoyances with that kind of stuff to elaborate more on what Bob is saying is just one the lack of accountability, just the lack of transparency, but just general lack of communication.

00;24;23;01 - 00;24;43;10
Unknown
Okay. It's like I if I was to open a group chat and show you how many times not just us, but other bands are asking for an update on this, an update on that, and it's just radio silence. Like there's one guy in particular like I applaud him for his persistence but following up because after a certain point we didn't care.

00;24;43;10 - 00;25;04;59
Unknown
We were just like we're not asking questions anymore. We just expect what we expect to not happen and we just going to keep it pushin. But it was just like, at what point are you planning to communicate with your bands to be like, this is what's happening? Because like you said, if something is changing and you let us know that in advance, then maybe we can try to do things to mitigate the issue.

00;25;05;13 - 00;25;22;02
Unknown
But to find out after the fact, then our ship is stuck in customs. We they're bottling. We can't know at DHL. We trying to figure this out. Finding out other people are not experienced and what we're experiencing. So then it's like, what are they doing? We never will get into that because they're not trying to get anybody in trouble.

00;25;22;02 - 00;25;36;10
Unknown
But it's like when was anybody going to communicate that to us? Like if we weren't as organized as we were to ask the necessary questions, when were you planning to tell us? And that was my frustration with them because of like, we'll be in

00;25;36;25 - 00;25;41;24
Unknown
group chat for you feel some people got assistance that that wasn't. Oh, absolutely.

00;25;41;24 - 00;25;59;50
Unknown
There's a lot of favoritism. That's a big league. And I mean, I'll probably dive right into his other point. Like there's a lot of favoritism within the boards with whichever band or whichever friend that is in a band or whoever. They've been affiliated with, board members that have bands in the

00;26;00;13 - 00;26;03;28
Unknown
carnival like all that kind of stuff is a conflict of interest.

00;26;03;28 - 00;26;19;52
Unknown
And it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be done. There should be some parameters around that to protect them and us as bands, because as, as the board, they should want to protect themselves. And I don't think they're even doing that. They're not finding ways to do that, because then we can sit down here and nitpick out all the

00;26;20;03 - 00;26;22;19
Unknown
that they're doing wrong, because they don't even know what are you doing.

00;26;22;30 - 00;26;38;33
Unknown
They're just very disorganized. It's just I mean, let me get these other two. Let me just do what we say. Oh, yeah, I guess I can read through these as best as possible. The second one was, can you give us the timeline tool so we can piece it together too? So, so the first one happened right before Carnival.

00;26;38;46 - 00;27;06;36
Unknown
Your second point. Yeah. So you got someone to choose from. Second after after having these conversations to get our duties covered. When the costumes were coming in, the minister mentioned something on the phone. It happened to be a conference call with myself, Rashad, them in the sun, fest. And he mentioned something on the call. He said, you know, at first I thought the government gave you guys X, y, Z, and it was intended to benefit all the bands.

00;27;06;41 - 00;27;30;55
Unknown
I know this is news to me. I've never had assistance offered. I didn't even know it was possible. Like I have no idea. Right. So, apparently it was tied to set up for the events that public beach. I don't know the intricacies. I'm not going to get into it because I don't know. I can't speak on it, but something, something of, of of the sort and, so, you know, the question obviously was, well, you know, if I said what, what benefits are we talking about?

00;27;30;55 - 00;27;50;39
Unknown
And, and he goes on to say, well, you know, it was x, y, z. I said, well, how come that was a communicator? Anybody else? Or even if, even if you didn't have enough to give everybody at least say we have x, we're allocated X to this. Isn't this because of X like that? Communicate to your boss we know what's going on.

00;27;50;39 - 00;28;03;56
Unknown
Right. So my question was what how come benefits are being provided for these other bands but not for us. And then he goes on his role. You don't know how hard it is for us to do this, and it's so tough. And we go through this and we all deal with the next. And it's like, I don't give

00;28;04;30 - 00;28;27;08
Unknown
Like, you have tasks you've been tasked with doing something right. Doing that thing comes with accountability, transparency, fairness, et cetera, etc. if you said to me that you were providing benefits to another band and not us, and you explain explained, we find that at least I know. Yeah, but when you when you, you know, you don't see anything, it makes it seem like there's ill intent in some way, shape or form or some form theory.

00;28;27;09 - 00;28;48;55
Unknown
You that you think you think it was. Do you think it was, I guess, a malicious attempt to kind of affect your mind literally itself. Into what? Well, my mother is very religious, and she believes that, by if if it feels that way. Right. Like in the moment, it feels that way when you're going through so much like running a mine.

00;28;48;55 - 00;29;08;47
Unknown
It's so stressful of mine. And it is you. Can you keep saying that? And I am feeling that about you. It is hard. So very hard. So when I was in while working with me in Paris, I was working at me and Christmas, out of nowhere or not, bro, you can start a band. I'm alive because of that.

00;29;08;47 - 00;29;26;26
Unknown
You know, we got in Chris on the road for the next carnival. They would all be my dream. You don't if you don't do carnival. Forget world hunger. A good having a pet. Learn to talk. I'm never. I've never been so happy. Oh, God. Chris, I'm so sorry. I think I watched one time with my parents when I was young, but, the rocks have been.

00;29;26;26 - 00;29;41;32
Unknown
You would. You would turn off or you said, that's like, I don't get it. I just, I actually feel like you would have a grunge. I probably would, I don't know, we're going to work or not. I don't really have just I've just never. Well, we can fix that. We're going to fix that. Some Ferrari red up there.

00;29;41;36 - 00;29;59;55
Unknown
You also got a red hat is a red bucket hat. You don't start. You going to start a fight now? Oh. So. Okay, Bob. So I saw it might be the rifle. The issue with the. So do you feel like. Oh, let's let's be messy real quick. Let's be messy. Hola, Hola. There was a direct attempt to discredit and dismantle your mind.

00;29;59;55 - 00;30;17;47
Unknown
That's what you're saying. Let's be messy. Come on. Chris. Chris. So? Well, that's. That's Victor's opinion. He be talking more like and subscribe like that's how you get him to like and subscribe to me. Talk to him. Say good morning to like.

00;30;17;52 - 00;30;37;32
Unknown
I'm so I'm. I'm so sorry, Chris. Go ahead. Go. Let's get serious. So, so you felt that his answer was a deflection? Yeah. From really answering because I guess maybe he wasn't prepared to have that information. That setting. Exactly. He, like like that was not pretend like conversation for that to be released. Yeah. So wasn't it.

00;30;37;32 - 00;30;58;22
Unknown
It's so let us know. Like, I call Rashad right after the call ended and he was like, so you heard that was it? Yeah. So I brought it up and like, you know, you don't. It's how hard things are. Firstly, what how is that a response to my question? So anyway, that kind of got deflected. And when I'm at Carnival, this leads into point number three.

00;30;58;27 - 00;31;18;59
Unknown
This is also how Selena and Travel ended up leaving Kate Moss as well. There was an attempt by the organization to have sponsor a drink trust drinks truck. Sorry. On the road for all the bottles. Oh. Meaning that came out as well, providing drinks, trucks, and, anybody would be able to drink from any trouble.

00;31;18;59 - 00;31;38;45
Unknown
So if you are behind trouble, you could get a drink from a response truck or from whoever else on the road. Right. Okay, okay. And to give credit, I'm asked to give credit to Kate Moss. I actually thought it was a great idea. That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to wait. I thought it was a great idea. I actually thought logistically that would have been a significant help to bonds.

00;31;38;49 - 00;31;57;23
Unknown
So this somehow ended up getting messed up. Where, you don't see it got messed up. Yeah, I guess trebles drinks didn't show up. And as clears up by herself on my apologies if I get this wrong, but their drinks threaten to show up. So their Musketeers had to either run ahead or run back to find somebody.

00;31;57;23 - 00;32;17;35
Unknown
Some of the bands tried to get, liquor from, but it wasn't there for the entire show. No, it came so so so let me, let me let me say this as someone who who did the very last. So, quick as you on the outside, that's a big deal. That's a big deal with you. And they keep you waiting, and you got to run back to Miles.

00;32;17;36 - 00;32;38;07
Unknown
That's that's a big deal. So they're they're masqueraders and have a drink. Apparently. But, somehow in the midst of all of that, I guess it didn't communicate to the masqueraders properly which trucks were for who. So our drinks, right? Was getting bombarded with people who was not in our band, on our or. But I thought also everybody or.

00;32;38;07 - 00;33;01;33
Unknown
But no, I forgot to make this point. We. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we organize our own truck through Scott. Oh, sorry. So you were not a part of the. We weren't a part of the entire thing. Sorry. My apologies. Because again, I'll be an early, no late last minute in disorganized things. So by the time they finally said they could even get through with that and does, like a few weeks before Carnival, y'all, we're not.

00;33;01;46 - 00;33;13;36
Unknown
We're not confirming alcohol in a drink truck and bartenders a few weeks before a carnival. Like, I don't know who doing it, but not us. And so we we couldn't wait for them to figure out the

00;33;14;02 - 00;33;19;59
Unknown
Yeah. And that was really what it was. And you know, Cedric and do escort were fully on board with sponsoring us and providing the truck and stuff.

00;33;19;59 - 00;33;43;39
Unknown
So it was that also said real quick real y'all y'all cup cup of tea. Oh there you go. So so the so the communications was not sent out that your truck was off limits. Yeah. Me and whoever else whoever whoever which of the other bands weren't using their service. Like they didn't communicate that properly. So people were bombarding our drinks, threatening bartenders were getting confused.

00;33;43;43 - 00;33;58;50
Unknown
Kayla let me know. A couple people had to be reminding the bartenders were not those people, you know, these like and said, you know, making sure that they understood who or people were. I was, on the road. Now, don't believe that. Not Kayla the okay. So when when the liquor bill came at the end of the year, okay.

00;33;58;53 - 00;34;13;31
Unknown
It seemed like a couple of those people did get through. Yeah. I think, you know, you could argue. You could argue over y'all should have trained about your bar stuff, stuff better, etc., etc. but, you know, again, that's not the point. You know, your disorganization led to us taking a hit in some way, shape or form or you guys pay after.

00;34;13;44 - 00;34;29;21
Unknown
Yeah. Oh you go see what was consoled. But I don't I don't know if it's prepaid which is convenient for us is expensive ways convenient. We got you next year. Don't worry. You can be ready for drinks. I'm going to be ready. We're going to have you prepared. We're gonna do a costume just for you. Oh, can we get a cross section?

00;34;29;26 - 00;34;51;34
Unknown
Yeah, sure. For some coffee in South suburban Jesus, right? Yeah. No, it wasn't Bob the Bob. Don't play. Not one little bit. It was a lot of people come into the drink truck and it was a mess. So, So y'all. So in terms of percentage, how much do you think that increased the bill by, you know, exactly what he can tell you?

00;34;51;39 - 00;35;10;14
Unknown
He can tell you exactly. Oh, no, not can you can you give it up. Can you tell us what the cost of of like a drink. Sorry. Even if it's an average. Yeah. Like that. Like like a ballpark. You know how they know how to be exact. Just give a ballpark. No, because. No, because the reason why I say that is because when people see the price of costumes or they see, you know, it's a t shirt, it was like three of them for a t shirt.

00;35;10;19 - 00;35;30;46
Unknown
But you're getting so much. I can put it this way. In 2023, when we had 500 people, I purchased, I think like five running liquor from CVG. I mean, I still have liquor left for 2023, like I personally. Oh, right. Okay. We still got liquor left. Looks like we used to like cruises, you know, stuff like, okay, we can link you off the record.

00;35;30;51 - 00;35;54;50
Unknown
So $5,000 for 500 people and, you know, maybe two thirds I got to use, I have to make a strong point, though, that the year. That was the year. Yeah. That everybody was dying on the road. Was that the truck here? Yes. You're right. That was the year that everybody was dying on the road and nobody was drinking.

00;35;54;50 - 00;36;09;47
Unknown
So I do not think it's fair. I think we ran out of alcohol. You're right. We ran out of water and he had to come off the road to go buy water. That was the year that we were scorching in the sun. So. So you know what it is. So you mean the ballpark? Knowing someone to this, this last fiasco.

00;36;09;47 - 00;36;31;17
Unknown
The last one. Because 5000 doesn't seem like that much to me. Like the last one was, was double lot. The last meal more than double. As a matter of fact. So. Okay, that's that's your figure right there. So five figures in, Okay. It's just wild. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, look, and that was an added expense on to.

00;36;31;20 - 00;36;54;36
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. And that, that came out of your, of your of your profit margin. Yeah. Yeah. And man so so you're saying the miscommunication from there, from the committee cost you guys literally money twice. Yeah. That same year. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well twice again. No they care again. They could argue back on that point and say well you should our training your bar are better etc. etc. fine now.

00;36;54;36 - 00;37;12;53
Unknown
But anybody but they benefit from having your bond in overall production of people. Can I, can I ask something about carnival culture here in Cayman generally? Why is it that the bands will stick together well and like like when you when you're going on the road, by the end of it, everyone's like all together? Oh, I have a few views about that.

00;37;12;58 - 00;37;36;42
Unknown
I would say if you go back to originally the orgy part of A New Days, shout out to Donna Mary. But when you had the actual competition on the road, you were forced to be a bit more organized and you were forced to display your bond in a better way because you had spirit spirit of Carnival.

00;37;36;42 - 00;38;00;33
Unknown
You had the band of the year. You used to have your, your sections. And so we knew in advance where there were judging stations. And before you got to each judge and station, you make man came on and said, get in your section, basically. But there used to be one by Lone Star. Do used to be one by I won't say excuse.

00;38;00;38 - 00;38;25;57
Unknown
There was one in town. There were a few points throughout the parade that you had to get back information, but by doing that periodically, I think it's still force people to kind of stay in their sections that the public viewing it actually were entertained. They enjoyed it, they liked what they saw. I think back then, too, we had more control.

00;38;25;57 - 00;38;47;12
Unknown
Either I can go as far as the saying parents had better control over their kids because I was not going in the parade. I will on the side, waiting for my moment to cross with the mothers like I was not your mom. It would be a mother. Yes, that makes so much thought of. Yeah, I will, she would be a mother.

00;38;47;14 - 00;39;24;43
Unknown
So it just like the Stormers that have significantly increased the way bands have allowed people, as well as the boards, have allowed Masqueraders to just infiltrate Carnival and not put in any kind of real structure with our marshals. People say bring ropes to key man. I actually think a unique thing about our carnival is that we don't have that, and I think we should play on it, but then there's other measures that we need to put in place, like this year in this press release about all we have and is stormers.

00;39;24;48 - 00;39;50;53
Unknown
You know, how much video footage I got him there and I really that's literally what I took videos of all day in slippers and little crop tops. Children not look like my son's age. My son does not come to carnival with me the first time. I literally took my son to watch Carnival for the first time since he was born was this year for the venue, and he went as far as I could see him and he had to come back.

00;39;50;57 - 00;40;06;52
Unknown
And he's 13. You run a tight ship, he's 13, but nothing is enough for kids. Yeah, yeah, there is Junior Barwin who for a reason. The two things. Oh but but but but not. But can we talk about that though. Because I saw a lot of the kids looks I think you a lot of people storming that section.

00;40;06;54 - 00;40;27;10
Unknown
Yeah. They weren't they weren't, they weren't for junior. But you know we got to also understand that. What is it. Some of these some of these, they look 20. They look they look 14. But they're 2122 oh my gosh. Well I think it's more so indicative of a culture of people just not respecting. Yeah. This is what's going on.

00;40;27;10 - 00;40;45;43
Unknown
Are there. There are no, parameters to to police it. Yeah. And now is the thing where I didn't pay for this costume. I didn't pay to view it as bond. 19. What are you gonna do? Let me. Yeah. Let me go and join the thing. So I, I noticed that this year in particular. And it's not necessarily just kids because I see a lot of us.

00;40;45;43 - 00;41;02;56
Unknown
Well, let's talk about it. Definitely. A lot of it is teenagers who are old enough to be on the road. Yeah. Yeah, you definitely see that as well, because, I mean, I know of people that older than me or my age that have said to me, it's like boy killer. I really want to pay for that caution, you know?

00;41;02;57 - 00;41;22;10
Unknown
So me and my friends, we can we just order something off we to make something. And they were like, you going to start talking to me about that? Because I don't want to hear it. Okay? I said, I will embarrass you because my thing is it's you are disrupting the experience for people who pay in 600 plus dollars, 300 plus dollars to be on the road.

00;41;22;10 - 00;41;54;41
Unknown
So you are ruining that experience for them. If you cannot afford it, stay home. So on top of that, no does. Does this also impact the, I guess, the esthetic and the viewership? 1,000%. That's not 1,000% and is so frustrating because it's like every year people complain about it, but it's like, again, it's we have our responsibility to do as much as we can as a band, to organize ourselves, to try to keep people out.

00;41;54;46 - 00;42;15;33
Unknown
But there is some responsibility as well on the board, and they fall short again because it's like, oh, you need to have marshals, you need to have a certain amount of marshals per, masqueraders in your band. I can tell you they're not asking or they've never confirmed with us. Do you have this amount of marshals? Yeah. They'll ask us how many people we're anticipating on the road.

00;42;15;33 - 00;42;34;48
Unknown
So for police purposes, they do not confirm. If we have our marshals, they do not ask us anything. It's like, oh, yeah, we have a marshal meeting. Make sure your head marshal, I could I could send anybody. I could send anybody and just be like, okay, cool. Here we go. Get Chris up there next year. So let me go back to them with the post on IG.

00;42;34;53 - 00;42;51;49
Unknown
Oh, I just want one last year. Oh, there's another one. Yeah. Oh okay. So I'll make this as quick as possible. When was this one? This was right after Carnival was fun. Okay. I won't I won't mention names in this. Well, I will mention the name of the individual who was providing the services just to keep her out of it.

00;42;51;49 - 00;43;16;25
Unknown
But, there was a services provider who was here. Bob really wants to give it up. I mean, you know who they were. Know I respect the lady who who traveled here. To provide services for, a number of the bands. Unbeknownst to me, I thought the person was coming solely for, respond. And it turned out that she had, been doing work for a number of other bodies as well.

00;43;16;25 - 00;43;36;11
Unknown
No. You know, okay, look, I tell you, if you if you're throwing a party and you bring a deejay from overseas and you pay for this fee, you know, hotel, fleet, if anybody else wants to use that deejay, you have to contribute something to be sure. Yeah. For sure. Lacey's right. For sure. Turns out that person was working for a multitude of bands, which I had no idea.

00;43;36;16 - 00;43;56;17
Unknown
So I had paid for everything for her up until that point. A member of the Camas committee had convinced me, Brant McLean in particular. I'll call names. They're all brought up to allow her to stay at home like he had organized, because she told him that she needed additional space. So, you know, I said, okay, fine.

00;43;56;29 - 00;44;13;33
Unknown
You know, I'll pay for the for the home where they already had to pay for accommodation for covered everything else. I said, fine, I'll pay for this. It's home for her to stay at. After the parade was was finished, Brant was running me down for this additional money. Yeah. You you need to cover the balance for the office.

00;44;13;33 - 00;44;38;08
Unknown
You need to. You need. Do you need to? I said, Brant, I just paid 0X0. And customs duties for respon because of you all or finances are no messed up. Give me a minute. I'm coming to you shortly. No. You know, I pretty sure you guys have had those issues in those. Sorry instances in your life where you know, God hits you with a bit of intuition, just, you know, taps you on the shoulder like, hey, you know, something's wrong here.

00;44;38;13 - 00;45;07;51
Unknown
So I started asking questions and, a close friend of mine let me know that, this individual was working for a number of months and not just respond. So I went back to the campus committee member and they said, sir, since this person has been working for a number of bands to which you had this information, because he had it, he didn't know, but he knew because he said to me after the fact that she normally does work for other bands as well.

00;45;07;55 - 00;45;34;00
Unknown
So I said, well, since, you know, you guys are using her services, I'm not sure of his band did, but he knew of it anyway. Then the other band should cover the balance for her accommodation. I paid for it. I paid her per diem for food. I paid for her, housing in a hotel in Miami when she was, coming over, for her plane ticket.

00;45;34;05 - 00;45;49;17
Unknown
I pay for everything. I'm right. I'm tight from the first apartment that she was in, and then they were utilizing her services. They were utilizing her service as well, and they did not know. Not so he would never be known to pay the balance for this. So they benefited from all the money you invested in her coming here.

00;45;49;17 - 00;46;07;18
Unknown
And they benefited and they didn't have to pay anything towards that. So I said to him, well, well, since you knew of this, and this person is also being utilized by other bands, let them pay the balance. Right. He said at first this was when he first said to me, oh, well, I, I didn't know anything about her working with anybody else.

00;46;07;18 - 00;46;30;09
Unknown
So I have to look into this. Shortly after that, I get a phone call from the, the landlord of the property asking me to cover the balance for this thing. And I explained to her mom, check with Brian McLean for the remainder of that money. This no longer has anything to do with me. So then she says to me, I always having issues with this whenever they come this dirty, they appear.

00;46;30;14 - 00;46;48;14
Unknown
I said, mom, this is the first time I'm being involved with this thing. I don't know what happened last year, talked about my thing. So anyway, after she called me, I went back to Brian again. I said, sir, I'm trying my best to be respectful. I told you whatever is owed for the accommodation, you get it from the other bands that were you licensed Lady Services?

00;46;48;14 - 00;46;50;01
Unknown
I, I'm not paying for

00;46;50;20 - 00;47;09;39
Unknown
For the millionth time. So after that he did not respond to my message. And it wasn't until months later, a close friend of mine who was an attorney told me that I could have gone to police for that because that is technically theft. So after that, that was what kind of put the stamp for you on them?

00;47;09;39 - 00;47;33;05
Unknown
For me? Yeah. These are a bunch of clones and I done with the service. So this is here we are I it's definitely the F. And that's when that's when you. So so so I stayed quiet for a year because again my son was coming on. But then the thing with that for a call has happened. Which, which was hilarious to me in a number of ways.

00;47;33;10 - 00;47;46;39
Unknown
I then I heard that deal on the radio just talking arrogant about my period. They saw something they saw, and it's like, Parado, they belong to you. Sorry. We lost the bands and to Masqueraders. But anyway, after the whole thing happened, like, I felt the need to voice something that I had pent up for a full year.

00;47;46;41 - 00;48;07;39
Unknown
No, I can at least give props to your manager, man. Actually, after the parade was over, had messaged me. I guess he was trying to have a conversation to which I said, look, my son is on the way, bro. I like I done with this Fenestraz. It's what it is. I don't care anymore. So at least in some regard he tried to make, contact.

00;48;07;44 - 00;48;30;49
Unknown
But I think fundamentally any you know, any form of reconciling the issues we had then last year I should have come from the other two are not from Germany. He might speak on their behalf as the chairman or whatever came asked, but, any, any, any form of, of, of fixing that issue should have come from the other two individuals.

00;48;30;54 - 00;49;01;11
Unknown
Yeah. So the people who spilled the milk should have been the ones to help clean it up, is what you see. Yeah. More or less. Okay. It's not always those, man. So. So then. So then does that how does how does that lead into the announcement that that wristband is not participating in 2025. Arguing yeah I mean he really he didn't or we didn't we didn't agree on it in its entirety.

00;49;01;16 - 00;49;22;33
Unknown
You know, the team had differing opinions. But I don't think I feel I feel triggered because I know about this. I mean, even Bob, though even Bob, at first he's like, I we're going to move forward. I don't want to lose momentum. But then he started to think about it. And then it was like, I definitely was like, I don't think we should do it.

00;49;22;38 - 00;49;23;25
Unknown
I was like, this

00;49;23;45 - 00;49;45;07
Unknown
break. This is too much drama, too much money. Loss is just disorganized. It's a mess. The people want one carnival like it's all these different variables. You're about to become a dad. I push very hard so you all can blame me. If I won't blame somebody for not being on the road. I pushed very hard for response to not be on the road this year.

00;49;45;14 - 00;50;11;09
Unknown
Yeah, I remember because yelling at Ronnie, I was very like like for me, I just saw where we were and like, we all had different things going on in our personal lives as well. And like you said, it's it's one thing to run a barn and that's all that you're doing. But when you're trying to do that, plus juggled everything else and people can say what it was like, oh, we all that a scene 24 hours is beyond saying blah blah blah.

00;50;11;09 - 00;50;32;55
Unknown
I ain't gotta be on Simone. I don't have it. I don't have Beyonce's husband. We all have to focus on the jobs that are paying us. We all have found the situations, like all these things that we prioritized. She she's actually doing all these things that shout at us, right? We we prioritized and needed to prioritize this year for ourselves.

00;50;33;07 - 00;50;54;55
Unknown
But ultimately, it also came down to when you're dealing with an entity that is just so bloody disorganized, it is not give us any hope to train, come back and push. From what I'm hearing in terms of how important this thing is to to you guys, is that, you know, ultimately you couldn't put out a good product. Yeah.

00;50;54;57 - 00;51;12;49
Unknown
Like you can't be affiliated with your brand. You're running your brand are also going to take the hit for that. Yeah, 1,000%. And I think a lot of people, they don't get that. But I think people really understood it. This year by us just, you know, sitting down on the sidelines. Okay. It's okay.

00;51;13;07 - 00;51;14;17
Unknown
It's okay. We do this

00;51;15;01 - 00;51;15;29
Unknown
We are the

00;51;15;41 - 00;51;30;49
Unknown
And I will say that like, you know, a lot of people chose not to do Carnival at all this year because we were not on the road. I think I think people would have, would agree that the numbers this year were, didn't didn't look the best. Yeah. We need we need you out there, Chris.

00;51;30;49 - 00;52;00;54
Unknown
We did. So so now you're here. Talking about the fans. Talking about, Carnival has, taken a pause for you. One carnival. What is the plan moving forward now? Is wristband done? Is wristband coming back? Which is mine. Will never be done. The respond tell all every week. Well, plans are in motion. No, there's a few things that I don't know, but.

00;52;00;59 - 00;52;22;10
Unknown
So you back in the race? Yeah. The hot back on. No. So I'll pick up the hot off the road, put it back on. So, y'all, y'all need some models or because we, Or you a Christian, all volunteer modeling your muscles, and and this guy over here, we're very inclusive. Barn. You can help us.

00;52;22;10 - 00;52;46;02
Unknown
Toppings. We have fat costumes. We have for the people. No. Know I'm talking about the other guys. Whoa, whoa, what do you mean? Oh, yeah. All the little bro, right? This episode, I saw a little salt and pepper, but, no, I mean, I don't think we'll never not be respond, but I do think it's important to us to just keep the integrity of what we're doing.

00;52;46;07 - 00;53;19;14
Unknown
So safe to say y'all are doing Kate Moss next. Are we never doing Kate Moss again? So yeah, whatever. Like Kate Moss and us do not go together. Yeah, yeah. It's unfortunate I think we tried I think I think originally and I said this on our same episode that I get Castle for that. I think the intentions originally when the original original split was happening, the intention of what they were doing, I think they meant well.

00;53;19;29 - 00;53;41;29
Unknown
The execution was just poor. And I think we've given it enough time to be something and it's just not there. And it's kind of like, okay, you guys need to recognize that. No, as well. Understand that Carnival is not you. It's the people. And people want one carnival. It's we're too small for this. That's what we should have had a referendum on.

00;53;41;29 - 00;54;01;21
Unknown
Where? Where are we? Listen to me, one. Where are we with that now? With one. No, no, no, I'm very curious to see. I can be honest with you. I don't think we have an answer for that because I think you have to depend on people who are not that intelligent to make a decision. Oh, Caleb. Come on.

00;54;01;21 - 00;54;19;54
Unknown
It's it's that's the reality of it. Like trying to make a want to put it upon. It can come out. I'm not doing anything. I work to kill this point. After I made my, My Instagram was a friend of mine called me after, here on Island, and he said, Oh, you know, I call him the leaves.

00;54;19;54 - 00;54;40;19
Unknown
No. Yeah. And I call him his lover. And I said, I said, he said, you know, you know, stuff. When I heard you questioned the intelligence of people on the Kate Moss committee, I said, yeah. And you said, well, you know, stuff I, you know, you don't always have to say what everybody already knows or, you know, okay, maybe, you know, it's, you know, so but it's not.

00;54;40;24 - 00;55;04;32
Unknown
They know, you know, they know whoever or whoever needs to know knows. I think it's just putting some egos aside. And don't get me wrong. So we. Yeah, I was going to say I had a conversation this week about not using the word ego income. Some men, because they're not insults men anymore. Like, oh, you have to use something like, you know, stupidity, you know, something like that.

00;55;04;32 - 00;55;28;40
Unknown
But oh parent, I feel like I feel like I feel like when people use ego to describe men is like to me is like men like that. Anyway, it it might make it worse, to be quite honest. So. Yeah. Anyway, you know, fair, fair. Well, I think we all have egos in the game, right. Like, even as I'm sure you know, with the decisions that we make on behalf of man, there's a level of ego that's involved in it.

00;55;28;40 - 00;56;03;16
Unknown
Right. But we all have to be willing to do that. And I think each band has a level of ego that they're willing to put aside. It's just the overall entities that we keep come into this block. And I think that's also where he's like, we have the power as bands, we have more power than anything. Okay, well, both of them fought for clarity for the partners in respect so that we include great know myself, Kayla and Tasha, my stepbrother, his wife, Chanel, who would have been a section leader with prayer.

00;56;03;21 - 00;56;24;46
Unknown
That's the the group. Okay, okay. That's us. Because Chris, I think he's like, he's really getting this all over. He's right. Yeah. I mean, let me let me get in my little piece of the pie. So move it. So you guys are looking to move forward? Yeah. For 2026. Yeah. Road, road. And this is obviously hopefully with one carnival.

00;56;24;46 - 00;56;44;14
Unknown
But if not, then you guys are obviously going to be part of another. Yeah I think I think the bands you know is that's what it's a call to action I hear from you guys. Yeah, yeah. We need to take responsibility for the entire thing. I think we are leaving really with the unification. The carnival is in the hands of people who are not interested in being unified.

00;56;44;19 - 00;57;04;04
Unknown
So, as the bands, if we decide that we're not going on the road, you don't have a carnival. But but let me ask that, because obviously carnival is a big economic driver for, for the for certain groups. Do you think that other bands will be able to say, I'm not. I'm going to miss out on a second party opportunity.

00;57;04;04 - 00;57;26;43
Unknown
Come. Was it not right, you know, to making money? I'm trying to learn this. Maybe. I know I spent money, so I'm trying to figure out, you know, I would love to know. It's by making money. Yeah. Percentage of them late. But, I mean, for the promise of a unified carnival. Hopefully a better product overall and a more people.

00;57;26;47 - 00;57;49;08
Unknown
Then you got to be willing to make sacrifices for something, you know? So I, I would hope that if that ever came, you know, if we ever need to threaten the collective with get together or we are not going on the road, that everybody would be willing to do that for the betterment of Carnival, the future. What is the hesitation between the two entities by the band who and Kim us for coming together?

00;57;49;12 - 00;58;14;31
Unknown
What is what is the friction? What is the. I kind of remember I'm at this stage, I don't know anymore. Before it was they kind of got along with Donna. Donna kind of got along with them. The change in because they wanted to be on a long weekend. But I don't see where we use the long weekend to really benefit from anything, or we're going to have it a little later in the year because we're competing with other carnivals.

00;58;14;36 - 00;58;45;28
Unknown
Okay, mass date actually competes with more carnivals than the bottom. A new date period. Then what else was it? They feel like it's going down the drain is not support from government. Government don't want to pick a side. That is also, I think, a struggle. Now. Is it government's responsibility? Not necessarily. But I do feel there's a certain level of responsibility that government should have over Carnival.

00;58;45;35 - 00;59;04;07
Unknown
It's a national carnival. You have a national festival, you have a national carnival, a national festival. For those that listen is Pirates Week. Pirates week has a whole board. But what happened that I thought, I thought the government brought them to the table at one time to have a discussion. We were in a part of that conversation. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall just to know what happened.

00;59;04;07 - 00;59;25;19
Unknown
From what I understood, some people didn't show up. Some people left the meeting partway through, and they seem to have come to some sort of understanding. But then when it came to put pen to paper, not everybody signed. Yeah. That was that was allegedly what happened. I can see that from outside that that is the consensus that I think the majority of people want one call.

00;59;25;20 - 00;59;43;21
Unknown
Yeah. We need we need to put a stop to it. It. What I get from Bob is saying though that if the powers to be won't do it, then the powers within the people in the bonds and the bonds have to go on strike of the unionized. I mean we done did it or we could all just pick one and go there and let the other one start.

00;59;43;21 - 01;00;10;37
Unknown
But, you know. Yeah, it just real talk. Yeah. I think gas, smoke got somewhat lost. It was before. Yeah. But I just thought I went somewhere else when I heard Josh show. Yeah, I, I don't know, there's Carmen has such a unique carnival product that we are literally just watching day out because of people not liking each other, which is so silly in the grand scheme.

01;00;10;41 - 01;00;40;12
Unknown
And I came under it. It is. But it doesn't have to be like the amount that came on. Carnival has been established for more than 40 years. There are smaller islands, well, comparable islands. And so yes. And where their carnival started after ours, that no outshine came on by far like it's insane in less than five years to like less than five years you have people like.

01;00;40;12 - 01;01;08;36
Unknown
I mean you just had Grenada space mass. That's all people are talking about, right? No, no, we're not going to compete with that. But then you have Saint Vincent that's become very popular. Antigua. That's become very popular. I mean, us here, it's coming. It's we love Jamaica as well. They've been popular. But when you think about I always say came on is the best starter carnival because you're not partying as long as other carnivals.

01;01;08;41 - 01;01;38;18
Unknown
You're not on the road as long as on other carnivals. Then on top of that, it's very easy to fly here. We have very safe accommodation, transportation. We're good. We're good in a sense. If you walk, drive for public transportation that I agree with is everywhere. Sorry, but you know, when you think about the overall package, like being a beautiful island aside and literally having some of the most beautiful women in the Caribbean.

01;01;38;23 - 01;02;04;09
Unknown
So we have a unique we have some of the most beautiful women in the Caribbean. We really do like I mean, Caribbean women are unmatched, really and truly. But we have a very unique product and it is a tourism product that people are just watching. Dwindle. Louis, do you did you so did you have numbers when you when the last time you did wristband of people that signed up with that, that were actually from, from overseas?

01;02;04;11 - 01;02;32;23
Unknown
We do have that. Yeah. We have that data. Okay. Yeah. So then you would know that we would have that. Yeah. Over time and it has increased. And I mean even even just our general reach with the expat community here has increased between when we started to the last time we were on the road as well. So then when you think about, yeah, they might live here by their work permit holder or whatnot, but then they're connected to people who are not here.

01;02;32;38 - 01;02;51;32
Unknown
So then they start to talk about their friends, come in like we had friends that were here this year for Carnival because they assumed we were going to be on the road. They still came anyway, so they found other things to do. They still came to sundown and stuff like that. But it's late. And not just because they met somebody here when you're on the boat.

01;02;51;41 - 01;03;11;00
Unknown
You you mentioned you mentioned earlier messing with the schedule, are competing with other carnivals. And that was one of the arguments for having it later in the year. What is the carnival season like that period where, where now it's in new costumes or manufacturing. We have all these these parties and lead ups to the actual carnival.

01;03;11;05 - 01;03;29;34
Unknown
Is that period of 2 or 3 months, situation where there are other major carnivals going on at that time. Two are people are trying to save money to go to. I know Trinidad is about February, February also is there. Right. So yeah, it is a situation like that to where I have to decide I'm going to spend money here or I want to spend it there.

01;03;29;38 - 01;03;49;09
Unknown
What? To be fair, regardless of whether Carmen is included, I group that that happens every single year. Like Saint Lucia, Carnival is really very close to that. So people tend to pick and choose there too. So like the argument about Kim, us being close to another carnival of people having to to watch people do that for carnival every single year, like, you know, that that is normal.

01;03;49;09 - 01;04;08;32
Unknown
Like every masquerade. I can't go to everything. I mean, if you got the money to buy, you know that that is damn near impossible for the average person. So I like I understand the argument, but is not that strong in my opinion, no, but what when when do you guys start here for whatever carnival say? If you're going to do about a menu, which is, then you will start right away, right?

01;04;08;44 - 01;04;25;10
Unknown
Yeah. As soon as listen, as soon as we got off the road for Carnival came out last year, we were already talking about we already have our we are we already talking about before we decide meeting taking place. Right after we decided we were not going on the road, we already had knew what our theme was as well.

01;04;25;20 - 01;04;48;00
Unknown
But when are you taking deposits from people? Is when I'm asking when? When people starting to book flights and hotels. If you are planning to come from out bottom in new in May, band launches should start in December and deposit and payment should start in December. Okay, realistically, when we were doing for July, you would notice that we were probably one of the first bands to launch February.

01;04;48;05 - 01;05;07;16
Unknown
So you really should be giving yourself six months to make a decision if you're going to go, whether you seen costumes out or not, like people going to Trinidad in February have already appeared for costumes from now. Some people have already paid for their entire costume, some people have accommodation, but so you have to understand the climate of where you're going to as well.

01;05;07;16 - 01;05;25;11
Unknown
Is it high season there? Is it low season like it's like another trip that you're planning for vacation. On a cruise you plan in six months in advance. Some people plan in a year in advance. You kind of know how much time you need off. Is it a week apart? Is do I just I mean, let me, let me, let me let me ask you.

01;05;25;11 - 01;05;43;43
Unknown
So in terms of, I guess, you said what communication is really by, what were you guys privy to? The economic impact? When you say you have cooperation with government, you know, talking about, like, the rooms talk at hotels or do do we have an idea of how much money Carnival is generating in Khaimah? Not that I'm aware of.

01;05;43;43 - 01;06;03;32
Unknown
And that's a problem that I have because I think government is a little too disconnected from it. Whereas if we were asking about Pirates Week, you get more data, you got more statistics. You have like I think they have. But is that because we own the own pirates? Yeah, exactly. And so to me, I think there's room for them to own.

01;06;03;32 - 01;06;20;53
Unknown
Okay, okay. Carnival like I don't I don't really understand why it's an MPO, okay. I don't I don't get it in any sense of form. You mentioned Pirates Week. I think we gotta watch that too, because Jamaica doesn't know that they're doing a piracy. Hello? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I sent it to somebody like they. They're not like Chris laughing.

01;06;20;58 - 01;06;41;03
Unknown
They're not playing our next one. Come eat your food boy. Yeah yeah yeah. And that's what, that's what. They're watching us fall flat on our face. When you think about pirates, we Pirates week is just starting to get a little life back. And let's pray it just keeps going upward. But I'm sure Jamaica has been paying attention to us.

01;06;41;03 - 01;06;42;42
Unknown
And like, boy Carnival going to

01;06;43;06 - 01;06;44;39
Unknown
Pirates going

01;06;45;08 - 01;07;00;11
Unknown
We going to just dip our feet in and do what we need to do. People love going. There is more of a testament of countries being proactive, like, y'all need to bring activity here. I need to bring people here during this low season. So, yeah, with the art.

01;07;00;12 - 01;07;15;46
Unknown
That's what the argument, some of our stakeholders have been making that we need to do it ourselves in terms of figuring out what the economic impact is, the bands the stakeholders have to do with them. Yeah, I was going to say maybe, maybe go to KPMG one improve and do like a, get a report is going to pull up the 200,000.

01;07;15;51 - 01;07;35;27
Unknown
Some like, you know openly so about you know, I mean if he wasn't paying dividends then maybe but yeah, I mean, the duty on costumes, the people buying food, the people, they are going to buy a pair of shoes or like, it's just it's a it has an economic and I think I learned to, of course on, on the Caribbean called the bars and stuff.

01;07;35;27 - 01;07;56;26
Unknown
Restaurants are rise the events cheap. The people printing tickets, the people printed you know. Yeah. It's not it is not cheap. And then when you think about this stuff, do you have to import for Carnival, like even even people who are dealing with production. You guys sound trucks and stuff like, oh no, the boys are going up here is going up to get what he needs to get.

01;07;56;26 - 01;08;17;39
Unknown
If he has to be on the road for more than one bar lane, you know, there's a lot of stuff that people are just not processing or thinking about. Like we have securities on road, you have additional food vendors a lot like that's just hair stylist and makeup artist and nail techs, like, you know how much people lost money from a vaccine clinic?

01;08;17;54 - 01;08;35;42
Unknown
The wax lady had his hair here with Chris. You know how many careers going out on Monday? The we ourselves were not on the road this year. You mentioned beautiful ladies. Let me go back to that. Thank thank you ladies. Thank you very much for your service. Yeah. Just shout out to me for picking the best models.

01;08;35;47 - 01;08;53;44
Unknown
A lot of them I don't, don't bother looking like I was, I was there I, I helped too. Don't get confused, but, but I've been watching and witnessing what women do to get ready for carnival. I mean, I know people try to downplay it and be like, oh, it's just a bunch of half naked women out there, but not like, do we love women?

01;08;53;44 - 01;09;13;55
Unknown
And women all the time? You mentioned wax, and that's why I thought about it. So that's part of the process. You got time, you wax of the girls and there's like $150 apiece. Just the nails, the eyebrows. You literally wonder, like, yeah, as a as one, one female. How much are you spending for a day of race from the cost?

01;09;13;55 - 01;09;35;26
Unknown
Your makeup, hair and nails wax all like, what is the total lump sum look like? That's why. That's why they need free drinks from like a beat. That could be like 3 or $4000. We start off, in maintenance. You're probably baits in it. You hear the bands over here too. So 500 g total now. So this this POC is going to run.

01;09;35;26 - 01;10;03;42
Unknown
You realize that? I mean, I do all of the things, but I also am not going to all of the most expensive places. So I would say you're probably a a lower end of the financial spectrum, probably $500. Easy, easy 500. And I'm talking about what? Shoes, accessories. Because girls are buying shades down here. Like all makeup, all your hair, your makeup.

01;10;03;45 - 01;10;26;25
Unknown
What, are you doing it yourself? No, no, no, I mean, like a makeup. Makeup appointment for Carnival averages between 7 to 5 to like, 150. And your hair depends. Your hair. That really depends. I could go as cheap as 25 for a little simple braided, but like a full boho, you're looking at $450. So would say I don't want no boys.

01;10;26;30 - 01;10;48;22
Unknown
Sorry. The the long braids that have the extra curly hair in. Oh, okay. You would not just bring it depending on the length, how much hair you have, all that kind of stuff. How much was that? So that could be just, you know, even, you know, even just on nails, manicure, pedicure, nails. The what? The ties to what the wax y'all get tans to some girls get the tentacles,

01;10;48;26 - 01;11;10;50
Unknown
Yeah. The waxes. Y'all get the women around like, long dollars for this? Hell, no. Yeah. Oh. Expensive. Right. And then you wonder why he. And then how much it cost for you to show up your brother. Does it mean good? Oh, man. You guys shout out to the guys that be in the gym prepping because guys be in the gym prepping for carnival.

01;11;10;57 - 01;11;34;32
Unknown
I can't Daniel y'all. It just be like, like right before a carnival, the crown up the gym and then sort of carnival done. But even that time on the gyms must love. It's all like memberships versus personal trainers. All that meal plans, all that kind of stuff. Nutrition is ozempic. Whoa. Was all the things like this and ain't no shame in it.

01;11;34;32 - 01;11;58;05
Unknown
Whatever you need to do to get your body right. I mean, carnival surgery, everybody. But you know, people want to look good and feel good. And I think it's a day for people to enjoy our culture. And ehm, I just wish we could just really get back to all of that. And with the babies like, even Kiddy Carnival has lost its love like my glass all the way in 300.

01;11;58;05 - 01;12;20;10
Unknown
It's just like I remember being so excited for the carnival. First time I shaved my this, this this first time you see your arms because a kitty can't get taller than tiara. But no, because I wasn't shaving. Yeah, I had to wear a sleeve this. And my mom was like, hello, mother. You're asking this right now? And I was like, please, I don't want to go.

01;12;20;10 - 01;12;40;15
Unknown
Like I was damn near on. How do you hairs, I don't know, maybe 12. Oh, I don't know, ten, 12 a long time ago. No. Yeah. It was a while ago. But a friend over there, you know. Sorry. Going down memory lane, but yeah, it's just like even that it's. You don't really see that anymore. And that was something we were taught in school.

01;12;40;15 - 01;12;59;34
Unknown
Like you knew about it. You heard. You understood why you taught the old turtle and where the name came from. Like, yeah, I don't get it, like, way, way. It just gone. Well, you have it. Well, Guardians of the culture, you know. Yeah. People get cute too hard or not enough. And you. But you mentioned someone very important that we lost recently.

01;12;59;34 - 01;13;18;24
Unknown
And I think it's important to highlight Miss Riva, again, our carnival queen. Miss, we we would joke about taking a run sometimes because I love the name Chicken Run. I would like, I wish I knew where our name came from. Maybe we'll get a story about that. I'm sure people get stories for days. And you should really do, like, a whole thing.

01;13;18;24 - 01;13;37;39
Unknown
Like, I feel like National Galleries should do a feature on her, like coming up to Carnival next year. I think that would be nice. You know, like how they have the different like you have time back and stuff that's featured. But I think a feature on Miss Reba would be great. We get close enough personal allies here. I have a question.

01;13;37;44 - 01;14;02;33
Unknown
It was like, kind of like, around, I guess the culture in Carnival and such. Do you feel that carnival has become a little bit too commercialized in some aspects? I would say yes. But then I think that's just the organic way of life. I think we will all kind of evolve in whatever we're doing. I think the essence of Carnival is what is being lost here.

01;14;02;44 - 01;14;33;48
Unknown
I'm not going to speak about other countries. You hear other countries complain. I will say the same way we complain. They're complaining to hear. My experience is the essence of carnival and the culture, and what it means to us has been lost. And so then all of what is being commercialized is just kind of overshadowing, not. Whereas I think those two things can actually come together and we could still remember what is Carnival while continuing to evolve and grow with the product and be able to compete.

01;14;33;52 - 01;14;50;43
Unknown
Because again, how how do we become or continue to become because we are attractive? But how do we build a better carnival product that continues to be more attractive to people, so they can travel here and they have something to look forward? So people used to fly here for Pirates Week again. How many times have I said Pirates weekend is done?

01;14;50;45 - 01;15;10;33
Unknown
I remember Pirates week used to the the streets used to be flooded, and this was when we only had like 30 or 40,000 people here. The street seems to be full, but I don't know if I remember one time I was walking down the street in Pirates Week. I ran into to Venus Williams Studios in the crowd walking cross.

01;15;10;37 - 01;15;29;30
Unknown
But but I'm not fair to them because I, I don't know if we've had that argument recently where, you know, people talk about yester year and we romanticize it quite a bit. You got to understand until we had to know what's going on. You know, a competition where people are flying out for the weekends or people are, you know, they're tied to this segment of the market.

01;15;29;30 - 01;15;46;30
Unknown
What it is, is playing pickleball or going to this particular restaurant and the bar we know have a real melting pot of 90,000 people. So there's different options. So we're not necessarily to have the same numbers that we had. Market makers. No I don't I can miss it. I don't play all I could watch it on TV. I can stream, I can watch.

01;15;46;37 - 01;16;07;54
Unknown
I watch through IG stories. Is sun hot anyway or is the same thing I see every even a cook food element. Bro. We used to. We said kill the go to the heritage list because you get in that real real. Now you can get that 2 or 3 times a week. And that's I think a part of the, the, the lower luster is gone.

01;16;07;55 - 01;16;28;44
Unknown
You messing up already because you like math. Because you're not talking about the reason why people, some people be messing up the food. Oh that's I know you can't talk about I woman. Oh we always you know what? We come into the end. Yeah, yeah. It's time to get some of you hunger. We talk about food, but but yeah.

01;16;28;44 - 01;16;58;15
Unknown
Not everyone. Yeah, but some people give her a chance again. Rose with years. You know, I, I saw the sign. Yeah. You're right. You know the not of sign one time. But yeah we have tons of events and I see that too, where like on a regular Saturday, you know, you have 4 or 5 different things competing for everyone's attention and to some to in some respects, you know, we have the different demographics, like if you this is your thing, you want to go do this, you can go to that event, you can go, you know, horseback riding over here with the kids or you can it's just so much.

01;16;58;15 - 01;17;18;11
Unknown
No. So but then when we live in a competitive environment, when you look at something that carnival, though, it literally is appealing to everybody. I think it should be, I think so, I think that's the one that I feel like that's the one time of year everybody is kind of like on the same page. Even people who do not like soccer music or they'll come on watch, they'll come out and that's it.

01;17;18;11 - 01;17;40;54
Unknown
And I would that would hurt me. One year it was of a no, it was not lost a year before when you felt the decline. Is there on the sidelines watching. And are people who are tourists from the hotels coming out. Let me enjoy this. What is the, what is this. And then looking like does what is the army or me as an ambassador having to say to them a it's not really like it's this one off.

01;17;40;54 - 01;17;59;09
Unknown
Yeah. So from that respect, yeah. I would love to see you get back to one carnival so we can have a a better product. I think sometimes when we expand. Yeah, we try to do too much and now it's diluting. Let's bring about all the bars. But let's do one. Let's let's work on the marshals. Let's work on having this thing cordoned off to be on.

01;17;59;09 - 01;18;20;14
Unknown
I'm an old school head, so I want to see and in town, to be honest, I. So that's kind of minister of Culture. You need to, get a contract written up for the young man. To my right. The new the new head, the new head of carnival. Now we got recited, but we know we just need to get them on the table now and they can figure it out, you know, just get one thing going.

01;18;20;14 - 01;18;37;51
Unknown
But. But, Chris, we really need you next year. For real. We need you. You know, you don't. You don't know what's I mean. No no no no no no, you're not. We need to get you on the spot. You know, you come on the road with me. Oh, well, no, not I go on because at least more of a risk.

01;18;37;51 - 01;19;02;06
Unknown
But I'm a look at the all the thongs. And what was your nickname? He's is so popular that that's a good, meals. That is so, so, yo, y'all had the theme for the minute. They had a lot. And, Well, yeah, I'm all for you. Yeah, that's what they're calling in my car. Yeah. My Suzuki, I should shout out to, that you didn't want me to jump in there.

01;19;02;21 - 01;19;19;38
Unknown
No, sugar. The word is I never, I don't remember. I got on my case. You know what? Oh, yes. More sugar? Yeah. Thank you. See, to my Spanish where he. No, no, but I thought you were telling me the name of the person. I was like, oh, so that's a similar than one. Yeah. I was like, sure, that wasn't even.

01;19;19;43 - 01;19;32;50
Unknown
So y'all have the things for next year? Yeah. When are they going to coming out? Because he and he can you say exclusive and well we'll see if we get we still got a lot of time to kind of put things into place. So yeah. Oh sure. I had too early. Yeah. Yeah. But it make lots of sense though.

01;19;33;00 - 01;19;38;16
Unknown
He working. He got to make sense. It's going to make sense. So you told and it's going to be so relevant. Oh

01;19;38;35 - 01;19;50;30
Unknown
of course we throwing shots I feel like if we sat by this year and y'all did not use the opportunities to come in. Jamar food for us. That was a big oh here I hear that competitive one over there.

01;19;50;32 - 01;20;09;27
Unknown
You talking okay okay. It was a big mistake okay. Big mistake okay. Big mistake. You shouldn't have done that. Well, hopefully we don't get in trouble for this one. Because somebody called names, you know? Hey, he stands by, we stand by. It's like if I. If it was based on opinions I could understand by. I'm telling nothing but the truth, y'all, because that's not the truth.

01;20;09;27 - 01;20;17;31
Unknown
Then be the facts. Did the woman ever get her money for the hotel? Stay for the whole state? I don't know.

01;20;17;36 - 01;20;35;10
Unknown
She said this. She said, this happens every year. Every year. But I kind of her fault, though. Oh, I wanted to say don't invite him, but, you know, by business person. Yeah, but. Yeah. Oh, don't let them. I came, I said every that's not a risk bomb problem. No, they probably go about begging her. Tell her they're going to be different.

01;20;35;10 - 01;20;42;47
Unknown
Y'all. Y'all bringing about Father Phillips again or. No. Because, I would love I would love to, you might get us some sponsors.

01;20;43;02 - 01;20;52;53
Unknown
And then when I do a good energy mind, they're they're beautiful people that he he loves it here. He's a real fun guy, you know. So if we can if he can get him back in the schedule those, then.

01;20;52;54 - 01;21;09;08
Unknown
Yeah, of course you can. You run it. You just want to truck with me. Let's go in the truck. Yeah. You know, go on. Yeah. Let's do the truck. I'll get you a VIP pass. I can be hype man on the me. See, we got you got go. Not like live like that. Yeah. I'm going to be a part of a self on the road.

01;21;09;08 - 01;21;28;12
Unknown
Must be a car to not everybody. You can't even I let it be the Portland cops carnival. That's going to be three people in the back. That's it. Now, we had a good time. Thank you guys for joining us. I hope it wasn't too, to to show you us on you. Thank you, board, for, you know, taking over all good.

01;21;28;17 - 01;21;48;49
Unknown
You know, you love your son this evening of to join. Yeah. Hopefully. He's, he's asleep. But, you know, that boy hates sleep so much. You know, he won't go to sleep every time he read the go on your wristband when he was going to go get some little, mini baby shirts printed. Yeah, yeah. So. So when the bucket hats reach, you can, like, spare a couple for us.

01;21;48;54 - 01;22;08;21
Unknown
How about this? Right. I know someone that customers might know. Someone that customers lined up. Anyone will order. We ordered the bucket hats, and they'll assign, let's say, like, 20 tequila to do what she pleases with me. You get your one. Okay? Just so I don't lose anyone, I appreciate you not getting what you say. Some hats just went missing on.

01;22;08;23 - 01;22;19;47
Unknown
Yeah, they're missing that. He has the hot that I really like. So he know it's hot I talking about I had it I don't know where it is. Damn dying. It was a casualty

01;22;20;17 - 01;22;20;45
Unknown
not

01;22;21;15 - 01;22;28;51
Unknown
and I don't you said on our podcast anyway. Yeah I won't get I came to a distribution. Who got last shot?

01;22;28;55 - 01;22;47;18
Unknown
Yeah. Bob take my hot oh my bag and give to somebody. You know, argue over it for me. He found one for me, and then someone else took it. You know about this? Is this dizzy? All is nuts. That was how fired up it was a reversible. So that's how popular we were, because it was just like who?

01;22;47;30 - 01;23;02;09
Unknown
I mean, they were like, we would just buy a cup. We would just buy almond just to come on the road. That was crazy. But yeah, it's tough man. But but I was going to say, I was gonna say the only reason why you're a hot girl, even though it was because I wasn't watching. No. What if we.

01;23;02;09 - 01;23;27;31
Unknown
End of distribution. I like 5:00. We locked up everything. Doors locked. We started packing up on this. One guy came and knocked on the door at six, and he was, like, asking for his costume. And I was about to be like, well, you know, technically the tradition is over, but we let them in, give me costume. It had a bucket hat missing, and that was the one she had that I went into Boss Lady and said, can we please cut to her face, can we please?

01;23;27;36 - 01;23;47;38
Unknown
I said, bucket hat to do not have a hot looks good. Q hot. So somebody went through the merchant stole the hot, but boy, somebody made it. Who knows? I don't see anything possible that another thing just, you know. But that's why we work well too. We not stealing from each other.

01;23;47;43 - 01;23;51;04
Unknown
We got us on a lot. Yeah. Responded no

01;23;52;06 - 01;24;12;30
Unknown
Yo, my girl over to see like, compass. What? Anyway, any final call? So we got hear from from, Kayla, her nails done up, I see, you know. No, no, no, I don't think so. No, no DMs. So some disagreement jams dry, I deleted them. I'll save some for next time.

01;24;12;43 - 01;24;30;11
Unknown
I appreciate it, Bob. Anything for your other hand, bro? Oh, no. We just, you know, I come back looking forward to know you going about you. You meet her regularly or third. What do you want us to get? That's a whole nother our part right now. Don't start, my son. My son. Missing you to finish. Just my single.

01;24;30;16 - 01;24;32;46
Unknown
What? Y'all. Y'all. Favorite single song before we leave,

01;24;33;19 - 01;24;39;45
Unknown
you miss me? Why you come to me when I sing the song, bro? Last night you were just talking about personal.

01;24;39;45 - 01;24;42;37
Unknown
Now we go, I wouldn't I wouldn't have come with a pot emote so bad.

01;24;42;42 - 01;25;00;17
Unknown
We good? Do I have a favorite soccer song right now? And then new songs, right? No. That he bought to go download them? No. So he can be ready for the road next year. I would say Good Spirit was like my favorite song this year. Which is a popular one. Yeah, I would say good spirit.

01;25;00;18 - 01;25;17;50
Unknown
Chris has never heard this is never heard it, by the way, full blown. He's never really give him a sort of list. Yeah, yeah. You're ready for this. Yeah. You would have heard that mango tree because they play it there all the time. So Poppy the movie sings it. I won't say full blown it also not full blown good spirit.

01;25;17;55 - 01;25;34;31
Unknown
I could be having the things backward, but I'll give it. Okay. So copyright 2026. I'm doing a rebrand for the part. I think I kind of stayed away from soca music this year just because we weren't on the road. Like, I definitely had FOMO not to get this conversation started, but I know I never, I never understood it.

01;25;34;31 - 01;26;01;12
Unknown
But the worst soca music does to women, bro, is is it? It's yeah. It's amazing to watch. It's like I'm getting through it now. Nah. So so let me clarify for you. This is, this is probably thinking that we're like, having a, a group chat. No, I'm being serious. No, they they be, like, just to watch women dance by themselves and enjoy the music where it takes them, like goose bumps is a soulful experience.

01;26;01;16 - 01;26;22;43
Unknown
Yeah. I'm not talking about the half naked on the road. You. No, it's like. Like literally in fat rain start falling goose bumps like that fat to you falling down. Literally. It's. And you can't, you can't if you look on her face. Is that what it does to you? Cannot describe it. You just feel it. It is a feeling.

01;26;22;43 - 01;26;42;34
Unknown
It is like it's your entire soul is an out of body. Well, Bob says, like when the music hit. Yeah, I remember, I remember I talking about one of his one of the things that you would notice when he got an event was when he went into, like a dance hall or gun, going to type a segment and you could see the energy, the vibe, cheese.

01;26;42;34 - 01;27;03;22
Unknown
And I remember I remember watching him like, all right, yo, let's And then you just see the mood just it is a, it's a. Yeah. And obviously it's different I get it, it was a good show but the so good so women bro like that just it's a nice vibe is a nice. So when you say good good spirit that song in particular like that.

01;27;03;31 - 01;27;20;45
Unknown
Yeah. You having a rough day. You haven't or whatever. Put that on. Any kind of soft music make you happy. If you were somewhere else, might I don't get happiness. Okay. Music got you got. Right. Yeah. That is weird. Like, you don't have to like it for it to literally just make you feel happy. It's it's, So when Ferrari.

01;27;20;45 - 01;27;40;16
Unknown
Oh, next week. Next week. They want to make secret. You know, I want to put gooseberry don't afterwards money go to. I just send you a little plate out of it, you know. Oh, no, I have needs one of them. I wanted to do that. Spotify. No, no, the 2015 soca music playlist. I'm probably already. Yeah.

01;27;40;21 - 01;28;05;37
Unknown
So it's all. It's all yorkers. I think I think I probably actually used to watch on YouTube is the red one. Is the red away? It's the red one. Oh 2015 was oh, they had that song there. Oh, it wasn't even that was a little Rick, you know. Whistler. Oh, the big one there. But, the monster also was 2015 or 2014, and he said he's so good on the fishing on official I.

01;28;05;37 - 01;28;06;30
Unknown
No, no, he won't talk

01;28;06;46 - 01;28;21;39
Unknown
about me like I don't know nothing. All right, all right, all right. So anyway. But but but but he came here to perform a wet foot. I was actually there. Yeah. Yeah. That was actually 2014. You know, I was going to say. Oh that was, that was before 2015. You went to a turn the 16 year old wet factory.

01;28;21;54 - 01;28;39;42
Unknown
No. One big wet factors. We have to laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One big round harbor. No I wasn't going to do that when Winston can't were running and he had. Oh he put this on the blazer. Yeah. He had rags that he would give it to Victor boy vote for Victor. Victor Victor run his campaign. That was that was that was that was 2013.

01;28;39;49 - 01;28;58;01
Unknown
I took a picture in it because I thought I was like, this is so smart. Like, to get all this whole age group. Yeah, we have to keep like I kept my right. I took a picture of for Winston in my wet, fat outfit. Hey, whatever works bro. Hello. You got elected to votes that I the word fit data because we had too many of them.

01;28;58;06 - 01;29;07;06
Unknown
Please stop with cool effects too. By the way, since we were right, the cool effects feel like a scam. It's a skill.

01;29;07;11 - 01;29;20;23
Unknown
Bring your liquor racket back it. Get your ice, get your food. Bring all that, party. And then we had a performance. We got deejay. So you only need to sit next to you. Look, if you bring your own DJ.

01;29;20;28 - 01;29;41;04
Unknown
Call a friend. Oh, give me the OGs court. Oh, sorry. Who? That? Who next? Yeah, you come up. Oh, relax. We're not. Don't get no ideas, bro. Talk about the cost loss. Nikki, you think you didn't contain, you know, this song. So cool. Yeah. So those are the cool effects that's not offend our comics. I'm sorry. No.

01;29;41;05 - 01;29;58;37
Unknown
I'm okay. So, all the wet fat buffering that we did over to the white House, we had, they opened the silent ones to. Right. We had a good silent how to run. I've actually never been to a silent party here. I've done one on a cruise as a kid. Did you go to the fact they had to hear about it?

01;29;58;42 - 01;30;17;12
Unknown
Yeah. By dicks. What? What do you mean? If I went, we all went. It's true. You like Jimmy? Oh, yeah. So you know, here. But he don't even remember. You love him because. Because I was one of his first friends. He might have remember, but. No. Aggressive. Look at I am aggressive. No, but you used to be right there by Jake Scott parking lot.

01;30;17;17 - 01;30;36;32
Unknown
No, I tell you what I do miss is the session. So tell us about outdoor session. Yeah, yeah. After, like, my charities and thing like, those were fun. Oh, the illegal stuff. Yeah. Yeah, those are present, but, these by Denise Taylor. Yeah. Oh, they were. Yeah. And then we had a little run by reliable rule that reliable how to run.

01;30;36;32 - 01;30;52;08
Unknown
Yeah. Like after dog to use kind of boy. You know Chris is really out here I see you see. So you see you know urinals used to run hot while your age and. Yeah, it was hot. Yeah, it was hot. And what, you know, who is he up there? Yeah. One little thing about it, TJ, I was it.

01;30;52;13 - 01;31;07;28
Unknown
Yeah. I used to be a furnace up there, boy. Yeah we used to have meatloaf. That's a whole other episode. I swear. We'll come back for that one. Oh come on, come on. Next week. You just told me I couldn't come back. I was just doing bars. Me, I was joking. You always welcome one. I think I'm on the bring the DMs next week though.

01;31;07;33 - 01;31;16;05
Unknown
I got to try. I got you know it just posted got poor oh so oh got some bit. Oh got us robot got

01;31;16;21 - 01;31;23;41
Unknown
This though.

01;31;23;45 - 01;31;47;16
Unknown
Okay. That's then. You want to see her. Yeah. We'll see you after that. Let's get out of here. Thank you for joining us on what the f. What an f. Kayla, go back later. Are all puts on this speaking episodes. Please don't. The numbers please. Okay. Yeah. Hennessy over everything. Was that the best one I can? No it was, it was anything is any any anything you thought anything is possible.

01;31;47;21 - 01;32;04;42
Unknown
They'll still stay away from the brown liquor people. Stay away, stay away. Yeah. I'll go back and listen. It was good to be here, though. Yeah. I'm glad we can use this one. Don't worry. This I go. Oh, so I behaved. Chris. It wasn't even my fault. Last time.

01;32;04;46 - 01;32;20;18
Unknown
Wet fat Chris, what's up in front of you? Five? See you. Oh, actually, have some stores and I fell. Tell one day. Okay. Oh, he's scratching his head. You don't want to come on the road with us, but you go at fat stores. This was when this was literally over ten years ago that we throw everything for Chris.

01;32;20;32 - 01;32;44;22
Unknown
Yeah. Bring. What are you saying? I was what's it was blessing he like that? We're the old lady. And just. Chris can be at the door. Where can security. Can I see your ID? Chris? Let us show up. Chris going to tell you the day. Oh, yeah. I just bought some tickets. Everybody else to go. I got some steaks over here.

01;32;44;27 - 01;33;02;17
Unknown
Thank you guys to join us. Christian farmhouse, where we go home, I appreciate you. Oh, this was, Yeah, this is enlightening. I learned a lot about Carnival. Yeah. I'm not not being a masquerade are myself. So, you uncultured swine. I know there's probably so many things we didn't even see. Yeah. Think we do a party to.

01;33;02;17 - 01;33;25;03
Unknown
When the season come. You come, though, right before the band launch or after the band launch. Right? Right before when you bring us out on America, like, can we get a look at how you get a press pass? But. Oh, okay. We'll talk about it, about it. We'll talk about it. Yo. Thank you for joining us. You will listen in Washington link up podcast.

01;33;25;08 - 01;33;47;33
Unknown
You know where to find us. You can find us on Instagram at Pod link up all the streaming sites, find it. Tell a friend to tell a friend. Tell your mom too. Because even though they love us, you know, Chris got us a Facebook group. Yeah. If you're watching on YouTube, if you are working or paying attention to what you supposed to be doing, you're doing laundry, the car traffic, whatever, we appreciate you.

01;33;47;38 - 01;33;54;38
Unknown
Let's try to keep this thing going. Hopefully we'll be back same time, same place next week. You mean it's a link up podcast?