Strap in folks, because Mike and I are about to set the record straight on the New York Giants' gut-wrenching loss to the Seahawks, and there's no holds barred. From the pitiful performance of Daniel Jones to the ongoing tribulations of the offensive line, we dissect every grim detail and ask, is it time for the Giants to toss Jones out after his second-year contract? We even dare to ponder the controversial idea of tanking to secure a hot draft pick like Caleb Williams.
But it's not all doom and gloom. In contrast, we dissect the Bills' triumphant victory over the Dolphins, with a spotlight on Josh Allen's spectacular five touchdown passes. However, we cannot ignore the sting of Tredavious White's injury, and with the trade deadline looming, the Bills face a tough decision considering the potential salary cap hit. We assess their options and examine the fate of this team heading into the future.
As we scrutinize the Giants' offensive struggles and their questionable coaching decisions, we highlight the pivotal role of the GM and the impact of their choices on the field. Was it a mistake not to franchise tag Leonard Williams? Is there any hope left for the Giants this season? We don't pull any punches as we capture the disappointment that is reverberating among New York sports fans and paint a grim picture for the city's sports teams. Hold onto your hats, because this is one conversation you don't want to miss.
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Strap in folks, because Mike and I are about to set the record straight on the New York Giants' gut-wrenching loss to the Seahawks, and there's no holds barred. From the pitiful performance of Daniel Jones to the ongoing tribulations of the offensive line, we dissect every grim detail and ask, is it time for the Giants to toss Jones out after his second-year contract? We even dare to ponder the controversial idea of tanking to secure a hot draft pick like Caleb Williams.
But it's not all doom and gloom. In contrast, we dissect the Bills' triumphant victory over the Dolphins, with a spotlight on Josh Allen's spectacular five touchdown passes. However, we cannot ignore the sting of Tredavious White's injury, and with the trade deadline looming, the Bills face a tough decision considering the potential salary cap hit. We assess their options and examine the fate of this team heading into the future.
As we scrutinize the Giants' offensive struggles and their questionable coaching decisions, we highlight the pivotal role of the GM and the impact of their choices on the field. Was it a mistake not to franchise tag Leonard Williams? Is there any hope left for the Giants this season? We don't pull any punches as we capture the disappointment that is reverberating among New York sports fans and paint a grim picture for the city's sports teams. Hold onto your hats, because this is one conversation you don't want to miss.
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Welcome to the Hernandez and Cruz show NFL week for thank y'all so much for joining us. We appreciate all the support and love out there. Mike, the Giants coming off a Monday night loss vs Seahawks 24-3. Daniel Jones sacked 11 times. The team didn't really look good. You had 6 penalties on special teams, defense couldn't really get to Geno. And the craziest stat I read about this game, mike, is the Giants had 36 minutes possession of the ball and Seattle had 24. And somehow it didn't turn out well for you guys. Mike, with all that being said, your thoughts as a Giants fans. And then where does the organization go from here? With all that being said, mike, first give us your review and then maybe give us the response.
Speaker 2:Well, it was another embarrassing game. I mean, you hit it on the nail. We did dominate time of possession and somehow through 36 minutes we only managed to come away with three points. But to put it to you this way, I mean Daniel Jones, let's just start off this way Two interceptions, two force fumbles, I mean two fumbles. He got forced on him.
Speaker 2:You said 11 sacks. Four different players had two sacks. That's the crazy thing. So that just goes to show whether it's just one person. It was a multitude of people. I mean 11 sacks of the whole is just pathetic. As far as the offensive line goes and this is what I've been banking on the whole year as far as beating on the drum with what the Giants have been not doing. So it's hard to execute offense if you get sacked 11 times. But I mean that's been kind of like how you mentioned with Josh Shilong previous week of how he throws a lot of interceptions and that's just who he is. Well, daniel Jones is a turnover machine too and he's had a fumbling issue his whole career and exceptions too. But up until this point I was kind of giving him a pass and some leeway. But I mean damn that pick six with brutal man. We got in the red zone, we got inside the 15 guys out of 10. And he threw that shit and that really put the game out of reach at that point.
Speaker 1:And you guys were down 11 right at that point Was it three or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even at that point, even if we score there, I don't think we're honestly in the game, because we just haven't really shown much this year offensively, especially in the first half. We haven't scored a touchdown at all in the first half. So yeah, man, I mean offense desperately needs a quant back and it's getting ugly and uglier. But I'm going to be honest with you. Our season's over, man, I mean, it is what it is at this point. Your four weeks in offensive line continues to do the same thing, week after week. I understand we would have left tackle Andrew Thomas, who is the only great tackle and alignment on the team, but we have the rookie John Michael Smith, who's improving throughout the year, but besides him everybody struggles and you know, with the line it's really everybody got to work in tandem, so it don't really seem like they're communicating and everything seems off. So it's going to be a long season for us, man.
Speaker 2:As far as where do we go from here? It's tough to say, man, because we're cash strapped. As far as the calories, A salary cap, is concerned, I mean we gave Daniel Jones that big contract. Yeah, we shouldn't have given it to him. We could have franchised him or should have franchised him, but I mean after next year. The writing's on the wall for him and he'll be cut after next year. So wait, wait, wait, wait, hold hold hold, hold, hold.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to let you get away. You'd say you think they should cut Daniel Jones after this season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to cut him after the second year. It's blatantly obvious. He's I mean, any shot that we had of him being good was thrown out the window after the first two years because we never put nothing around him. Same thing with Saquon. Both their careers were ruined by the Giants. Saquon were probably walking free agency. I doubt they even franchised him at this point with the way this season is going. But next year? But I mean with Jones, yeah, we're going to cut him at the end of next year. If you look at the contract, after year two he would have been paid $82 million and then he can be cut.
Speaker 1:Can I ask you a question? Would you prefer to see the Giants tank to get Caleb? What if they didn't win the rest of the season and they got number one pick Caleb? Would you be all right with that?
Speaker 2:Yes and no. Here's why I say that. I mean, ok, if we get Caleb, even if he starts day one, and we just the remaining money on year two and have Daniel Jones as the backup, which, even if we draft the Caleb, I think they're going to start Daniel Jones, and at least for the first half of the season, first eight weeks of the season. But my point is, even if we draft the Caleb and started him, the line is still going to be the line. It's still going to be shit. So, yeah, caleb Williams is faster than Daniel Jones, but what better is that going to do, realistically, based off what you've seen in this line, from this line, what will any quarterback be able to do right now? I mean, so that's my question really. I mean, caleb Williams, could he possibly turn chicken shit into chicken salad? Yeah, possibly could. We'll see.
Speaker 1:Strauss doing it in Houston. Man, I mean, it can happen bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, strauss doing it in Houston. But has he get? I haven't seen his.
Speaker 1:He missed four starting linemen this past week and won. I think it really is, man, I get what you're saying. No matter what, you have to fix the offense line. I agree, man, if you get that dude back there, it may make a difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but at this point, Daniel Jones' confidence is rattled. So let's say, even if they think Caleb Williams, Drake May, whoever you want to name, is that dude? And even if he is, who would just say you put him behind a shitty line? He gets knocked around a couple times His side, he won't be fucked up too?
Speaker 1:Well, smart quarterbacks help our offensive lines, meaning they get the ball quick as fuck out of their hands. And the play calling, so right, correct, play calling. You've seen with Daniel Jones. He's been able to be somewhat successful last year. So I don't know if it's both a combination of the pick hauling and like, hey, quarterback, you need to be smart enough either to get down, throw it out. You know what I'm saying and I get that. There's no time, but every quarterback has to overcome pressure and bad lines. So what is it?
Speaker 2:But this is like a historically bad line, like we're on pace of being right up there with, like the Derek Carr years when David Carr when he was in Houston drafted up there.
Speaker 2:You see what. You see the amount of time Sam Howesman sacked. We're like we're not as high as I'm, on pace to break the record of what David Carr had, but yeah, we're going to be right up there with one of the highest amount of sacks given up in a single season. I mean, 11 sacks in one game is crazy. Think about this four quarters of a game. So that's what? Like three sacks a quarter. That's crazy. And okay, I understand.
Speaker 2:Well, a little bit less than three seconds a quarter, but you get what I mean and I get all the sacks are not attributed to the offensive line because, yes, you got to get the ball out quicker and yes, there are times when Daniel Jones does hold on to the ball too long. But at this point there's no hope. I mean, it's only going to get worse, because we played the dolphins and I got the injury update on Twitter and Andrew Thomas is going to be out yet again. Our pro left tackle got all the money with a hamstring issue, which he deserves the money, but the best linemen and he's out on the left tackle, so he's out.
Speaker 1:Good news is dolphins defense might not be able to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 2:Now they're going to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 2:They're gonna get reported back.
Speaker 1:Mike there's no hope in New York. Like you guys are that bad in Giants world. Like it's just, we're done this year.
Speaker 2:Seattle's defense is not that good. Andy Dutton was lighting them up.
Speaker 1:Hmm, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, andy Dutton played well against them.
Speaker 1:Brian Dabble does know how to beat him, just saying he's beat him in the past a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's beat him. He's beat him with a Josh Allen and they probably didn't have two or 100% healthy either. He probably had some type of injury when y'all played him, Even though when y'all played him Buffalo last year, that was a great game. That Dabble pulled out High school and offense, I remember that. So yeah, but yeah, there's no hope. Man, you look at our next four weeks. We have what Dolphins, Washington, I believe, the Jets and the Bills I forgot what order, but those are like the next four games.
Speaker 1:And you got Dolphins Bills back to back.
Speaker 2:Okay, dolphins, bills, and then I think it's Washington and Jets. But yeah, I mean Jets is going to kill us defensively. And so go back to what you said. Compared to last year, the offense structure and play calling and what they're trying to do is different. Compared to this year. They brought him. While it is the big weapon, he hasn't really had a lot of opportunities to beat that big weapon and there were times when he's gotten passes that he's dropped. But I mean it's just the shit season in general. But last year we did more short passes, get the ball out in hand quickly. We actually had Saquon healthy for every game. This year Saquon's missed what so far I have to season. So I mean it's only four games, but he's missed two already. So that just goes to show. I mean Saquon's the whole offense. You're missing a potential pro bow left tackle and Andrew Thomas Schmitz is banged up at center. He had the shoulder injury. Hopefully he plays this week. Hey, I know you remember the name, justin Pugh out of Syracuse, right?
Speaker 1:Tackle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that we drafted. He played tackle and guard with us and he also played guard with Arizona. He's been in the league for a decade. We just signed him off practice squad. I mean we just signed him off free agency and put him on practice squad, so he's not going to be ready this week. We'll see. Hopefully next week he'll be ready, but that just goes to show. I mean, he's been in the league a decade so he has a lot of experience and he's definitely good enough to where he was hung around at the first round pick and been in the league for a decade. So that speaks for itself.
Speaker 2:But if you've been in the league that long and you didn't have a job once the season starts, what does that kind of say about you? That should have been a move that John should have made during after week one, after you get a 40 piece put on you by Dallas. They should have signed Pugh right then and there he would have been available probably by now. So at some point this year Pugh will be in there at either. I'm hoping they put Pugh at right tackle and slide Evan Neil to guard, because Evan Neil cannot play tackle and it's just been a massive organizational failure from top to bottom for damn near a decade, dating back to Jerry Reese, who was our GM from 2007 to 2017. And the reason why I bring up the years he was the GM he did not put together the team of the core players that won the first Super Bowl in 07 of the Tuck Eumann, eurah Eli that was the previous general manager before Jerry Reese. He is responsible for the 2011 run, so I give him that he's responsible for one, even though he's one too.
Speaker 2:But man, let's just. I know so many people miss on picks, but just go look through his last three first round picks 15, 16 and 17. His last three years Okay, 15. Eric Flowers we all know how that turned out at tackle Right, he was a bust Top 10 pick. Then he goes to Washington. They magically move him to guard and it becomes a pro bowl. But you know these general managers have egos. He should have, or they should have, moved him to guard and maybe we would have got more out of him with the Giants. Okay, so go to 16. Following you Eli Apple cornerback he's in the league now, but he's not that good. Another wasted pick. Let's go to 2017. His last pick in the first round, evan Butterfinger Ingrams. Now he found his hands in Jacksonville and he's turned out to be a good player there. But those are three straight years first round picks that we wasted and those were the last three first round picks of Jerry's career, and let's not even get into Dave Gettleman. I mean, come on.
Speaker 1:So, with all that being said, mike, you kind of have the history of what the Giants have been doing the last decade and now going on from here. Since you're doing organizational changes, I guess my question for you now is why has the defense looked so bad with Wink? And should it be time for the defensive coordinator, as you're making organizational changes, move on. Do you guys need to move on from him, or is it? Hey, we're going to keep him until we get rid this last little wave of the old I guess it was the old regime players Right.
Speaker 2:I mean we got a lot of new players because our team is young, but we got vets in there too, but through other free agencies the Sheen signed to recently. But to answer your question, I'll put it to you this way the defense has played decently. Given the amount of time they've been on the field and the situations the offense put them in, they've played decently good at times. You look at the score of the last game 24 to three. Yeah, you could say defense didn't do their job. But one of the touchdowns was a pick six. Daniel Jones had four turnovers. So defense was obviously put in bad spots and we're not moving the ball, we're not sustaining drives, so defensive and getting a break. But to get back to the wink thing, here's where I blame wink. Miss tackles, week after week after week after week, we can't fucking tackle. I don't get that. We miss so many tackles against Seattle, so many tackles versus San Francisco. I say that to say this with the miss tackles. I put that on wink. I know he's not the one out there playing but, like when I need job in sports, coaches get to blame. So that's on my opinion. Wink has a history of past rushers doing better once they leave him and we draft the Kavon Tepido, who's in his second year and you could say that's partially me being impatient calling Kavon right now a bus, but he looked so disinterested out there. And we also got another young guy in those years, oh, julari, who is battled injuries throughout his career there too, but he's in his third year. So let me pull up the past rushers from wink that he had in Baltimore that after he left Baltimore they did a lot better, made pro-bowls and things like that. Ok, matthew Jude on of the Patriots is one of them. He made a pro-bowl with Wink one year and he had nine and a half OK, great year. That was in 2019. He leaves Baltimore after 2020, right. So he made the pro-bowl once with Wink in 2019. He leaves Baltimore after 2020 and then he goes to the Patriots. He has 12 and a half sacks in 2021, 15 and a half sacks in 2022. And so far this year, four games. He has four sacks. So his productivity level the ed rusher is night and day difference from his best year at Wink his best year with Wink and he made a pro-bowl twice. No, um, and he made a pro-bowl twice. No, yeah, he made a pro bowl like two or three times in New England. He's on the verge of possibly making a pro ball again this year, if he stays healthy.
Speaker 2:Ok, zadaria Smith played with the Packers in Minnesota. After Wink he was there in Baltimore too. He's a three time pro ball in his career and they all came after he left Baltimore and after Wink was his defensive coordinator. So post Wink he had eight and a half sacks with Wink in 2018. Then he had 13 and a half sacks in 2019.
Speaker 2:This is Zadaria Smith 12 and a half sacks. Twenty twenty with Green Bay, two pro bowl years consecutively. So that's 26 sacks in two seasons in Green Bay and his first two years after leaving Wink. Then he missed all 20, 20 with an injury. Twenty twenty one. He bounces back from the entry with Minnesota and he has 10 sacks. So that's what? Three years without Wink? That's 36 sacks, 12 sacks a year.
Speaker 2:So I'm just saying I feel like we can get more added ad rushers if we had a different defensive coordinator and I'm kind of linking that with Wink and the productivity level there with Wink.
Speaker 2:Based off these two ad rushers history, I mean, like I said, zadaria Smith became a three time pro bow after Wink and Jude on multiple time pro bow after Wink. So it might be time to say you know what we need to get rid of Wink and go a different direction and hopefully we can get productivity out of Kvon Tibido and Oziz Ojolari, because I mean we picked Kvon top 10 first round and that's not looking good. Last last year we picked them. That's not looking good so far. I know it's only been a year and a half or less than a year and a half, but then we got Evan Neil top 10 last year too. You can't miss on these top 10 picks and right now neither one of them are looking good. But defensively, man, I'm putting that on Wink, that's just how I feel. Somebody got to be the scapegoat on the defense. So I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 1:Well, there you have it, Mike Hernandez, coming in hot, coming in strong. Hot takes with it's time to move on from the defensive coordinator. The season already is over. Even though there are only one in three, mike is beyond all hope with his offensive line.
Speaker 2:Yeah, only one in three. You say that like teams can climb out of a one in three hole and make the playoffs. That's rare, that's rare.
Speaker 1:I mean, you never know, We'll see. He said we might have with this team.
Speaker 2:We might not win a game in a division based off the past versus we face in a division. You got Chase Smith and Montez Sweatt I believe his name in Washington. You got all the people that he was got Cowboys victimize this already. So, yeah, we might not win a game in this division. So we'll see.
Speaker 1:Well, there you have it. We'll switch gears now to my team, the Buffalo Bills. They had quite a bit of a different weekend than Mike's Giants. They really started out with taking it to the Miami Dolphins in Orchard Park, winning 48 to 20. And the game started out blow for blow and then, by the second quarter, Alan and Diggs really took off. And again, mike that's why I say you have some confidence with this Miami defense is they are not very good at tackling either and we did whatever we wanted to them on offense. So maybe there's a chance there. They were the hottest team coming into this game, having scored 70. It is a division rival. We know it's a big time matchup and the Bills just reminded Miami that we are still the king of the AFC East. So just keep that in perspective.
Speaker 1:Alan, through five, or had five touchdowns, ran one in Diggs. He went off with six catches, 120 yards, three touchdowns Not bad for two guys that had so much beef quote unquote before the season Seems like that's all ancient history and they've taken care of business per usual. But again, mike, the result wasn't surprising to me. However, the score was surprising, being that they beat him by that many points for touchdowns. You know that's. That's quite a big difference in a game.
Speaker 1:But you know we've had. We've had the Dolphins number. We're now nine and two in the last 11 games were five and one. Josh Allen is five and one verse two Since he's been there. So, like damn, the Bills have dominated the Dolphins. That's why I'm not worried when we play the Dolphins Most of the time we usually beat him. So yeah, we've had that much domination over the Miami Dolphins. Now that does span two regimes. I think Brian Flores was coached before and then Mike McDaniel, his past, I think, two years there. So it's really been all bills that series. As much as they are AFC East rivals, it hasn't been too much of a rivalry in my opinion. But I digress.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. That might that might spread three different coaches because, depending along the other coaches here before Florida, if you're nine and two against them, it has definitely like three coaches because you play twice a year.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, I get the point. Yeah, so really I mean like I said the outcome was in a shocker.
Speaker 1:It's like, well, it's Miami Now that I expect them to always play as tough, Just because it's a division opponent. They know you so well, we know them so well. So usually those games tend to be very close, and they were last year. They were very close games, I think all three of them. But yeah, for whatever reason, I think the Bills just have their mindset Like this is a win, Like this is an automatic win, you know so the Bills, you know they were very in front of the Bills. You know they were very impressive.
Speaker 1:The offense was clicking on all cylinders. Um, we rushed for over a hundred yards again. So we're using all of our backs. Latavius is getting carries now, Obviously, Mr Jimbo Cook is getting carries. He even got a touchdown, Finally found the end zone for my fantasy team. Thank you, Mr Cook.
Speaker 1:And really, the defense again showed out. They shut down a Miami offense that was number one in the league and they just looked excellent. They were putting pressure on the quarterback Um, I think they have the most sacks in the league now I think it was 16 after this past week and they have like one of the top pressures in the league. So really, all that being said, their defense has Von Miller coming back this Sunday in London, so that's going to be a great time for Bills fans. Um, the biggest thing, obviously, and we had a great game, but it wasn't without a loss. It was a bittersweet.
Speaker 1:We ended up losing Mr Tredavius White once again, and for the second year in a row. This year was his, I believe. His right Achilles Last year was a left ACL and he's done for the year, so we could not get through a season without losing one of our top guys. It seems man, and it's just been. You know it sucks for him. I know he wants to be out there. We actually haven't had him since really even in the playoffs against the Chiefs in 2021, when we lost that 13 second. He was not even in the playoffs because he got hurt towards the end of the year that year. So that's kind of where it all started.
Speaker 2:So right, I don't know Let me, let me ask you this Since that injury and with the deadline coming up, what did you do? I think we get you think you'll go out there and trade for a veteran quarterback cornerback.
Speaker 1:Um, I wish they would. I really want them to. I have no idea what the market is for cornerbacks. They did just sign a guide to the practice squad. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. I'll have to look that up to bring him on. But now was the time for either Dane Jackson or our first round pick, kairi Lime, to step up and do their you know, do their role. It's their time to take over. Trey hasn't been there. Last year they did a good job. So it's going to be up for grabs between Elam and and Dane Jackson. You know Christian Benford. He's been our starter as the other cornerback opposite Trey White, and now our guys are stepping in. Yeah, we're short-handed, but, you know, no excuses, man. Every team is going to have to deal with injuries.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and another question I have is uh, I know I believe it was a couple years ago y'all gave him a big contract extension in Tredavis, white, um. So when did it get to the point where y'all can cut him and not um, miss any money on the cap, things like that or not be a big cap cap hit?
Speaker 1:I think his cap, his cap hit ends. I don't have this. I'm almost certain. It was two years from today, so it would be 2026, really, when the new stadium opens. I think that's when he'd be off as far as the bigger cap hits, but I hope I want him to trade him. To be quite honest with you, um, I don't know if that's possible. I don't know how much guaranteed money.
Speaker 1:I haven't really looked significantly into his contract, um, but I'll tell you what man he's. He's missing a lot of times these last three years, since 2021. And it's I think it's time to move on from Trey White. However, we can do that. I don't know what that looks like. I don't know if Brandon Bean needs to make some magic happen with it signing trade, but I just don't want to. I don't think he's going to get it back out there as a bills quarterback and I bet you at my bottom dollar we're going to be drafting a quarterback this coming draft guaranteed number. It might be our first pick, um, or maybe a second round pick, but I guarantee we're getting someone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I just looked it up. Um, he had y'all can get out of it after 24. So after next year.
Speaker 1:Oh, we got one more. You left that.
Speaker 2:All right, good so technically under the books to 25, but after 24, y'all can get out of it as a potential out.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's why I said 26. I think his contract is done 25. Okay, so he gets out of the cap hit is 20 after 24.
Speaker 2:After next year. Yeah, we're up here, I'm all to guarantee money ups. Well, that's what it looks like according to Spock track.
Speaker 1:Honestly it I'm used to it by now with Trey White, unfortunately. He is a magnificent player, he is a lockdown corner, he is such a great player but much like uh, derek Rose, another great athlete, another great player that I admired, it's going to be. It's going to be a short career short and career due to injury. Unfortunately he just can't avoid the injury bug and you know I wish him well and I'm not. I'm not here to advocate for it or take away anybody's job, but I think the bills might be best of interest to find a replacement because it hasn't worked out these last few years. Acl is tough to come back from over and over again. I think you know and and Achilles, it's like man, what, what can we do now?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's definitely going to be a and the thing is well, I guess the good thing about it, if there was a good thing, is at least they weren't both injuries on the same leg, you know, both the knee and Achilles. Um, but uh, my question to you is uh, I know it's early, but level concern going forward with this regime and finishing the job and when I say finishing the job, I mean like winning the division and getting to that Super Bowl and getting over that hump where you see that going, what do you think?
Speaker 2:Based off what you see so far this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with this regime, the time is now. They have everything in place. I have all the confidence. They have stability. They're not moving on to coach the coach every year. Um, sal McDermott.
Speaker 1:Um has taken over that defense and, I'll be honest, they look better than when Leslie Frazier was under the bills, and that's why I didn't want Frazier as our defense coordinator, because they would always give up the big play. So I think under this regime, man, if they don't win it this year or the next year, I don't know when they're going to win it. Um, because you have digs in his prime, you have Allen in his prime, james Cook is coming into his prime. Your offensive line is actually looking fantastic this year for the first time since Allen's been there, in my damn opinion, um, and you have a defense that is playing at a lead level. Uh, leonard Floyd has been a godsend. Obviously, when Von gets back, matt Milano is probably might be the best defensive player on the Milano. The Italiano might be the best player on the whole damn team, if you ask me. And then you have the young guys like Bernard coming in. We're filling in for Trey Edmonds when he left and he's looked phenomenal as well. So, like this regime I'm confident in it's not. Like I said, mike, it's super roller bust for this regime until you know that new stadium opens and when that new stadium opens, and if they don't have a super bowl, they better win it that year, because changes may come and they may not.
Speaker 1:I don't know Um. You know guys like Andy Reed were at. You know he was at Philadelphia for what? Nine, 10 years and still didn't win. And yeah, he was getting there but he didn't win either.
Speaker 1:And I don't know. I don't just want to let a good coach go because we've had such bad turnover for the longest time. I'm okay with more stability for once in the Buffalo Bills organization. I know who my quarterback is, I know who my coaches and, honestly, there's not much for them to change. They built a great culture. They're they're a superstar team. They're always on primetime games Now.
Speaker 1:And and you got the AFC East, although we thought it was gonna be stronger. Maybe he's not as strong as we thought. Kansas City looks a little off, but I'm never gonna count them out. I know where they're gonna be there Cincinnati with borough. I don't think he's healthy. So I think we can just count them out and I think the AFC is looking more like Buffalo, kansas City and maybe a surprise Ravens team. That has looked pretty good so far, if I don't say so myself.
Speaker 1:So this regime, this is now. I'm confident they can win it. It's go time. But what the Bills have done the last couple years and I noticed is they start out really hot, they get through the year, they have a couple bad games, hiccups that they usually do, and then they flame out in the playoffs and towards the end of the season. And that's my biggest concern with this team is are they gonna do this again? Because yeah, you guys look great, yeah, your offense look great, yeah, your defense look great, but that's in September, that's in October. Show me what you guys. Show me that same team. I want to see that team in December and January and they have yet to prove that now. Can they do it? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I gotta say, as far as my team goes, when you mention stability, we're on the opposite end of spectrums with stability. Because, crazy enough, seven to ten years ago with your team with the lack of stability, and now it's mine. Um, so yeah, we're on the polar opposite ends. And um, yeah, when it comes to prime time games, that Giants should never be on prime time again this year. Take that Bills Giants game off prime time and then the other prime time game the Giants is scheduled for. Nobody wants to sit through a boring ass game and embarrassment like that, especially if you're a giant fan. But We'll see what it is. Um, but yeah, man, I mean it's crazy to think how Opposites the two organizations are going in, but, um, you guys got rings to show for it, though At least y'all got some rings and say hey you know we can do it we have.
Speaker 1:We don't know if we can do it. We don't know if the bills could truly do it. We don't because they have it. But you guys, I know you guys can win a Super Bowl. You guys have proven we could put an organization together and win. So I don't know, I guess I would hold on to that if I was a Giants fan. Right now it's like it, like as a bills fan, we're just bad. It's like we don't have anything to hold on to. I got to hold on to Super Bowl losses and shit like that, you know.
Speaker 2:But hey, when we got asked what by the Ravens? What 35, 38 or 7, something like that in 2000, 2001.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you played it all time defense though, bro. That's like, that's like a Jenna, that's a once in a lifetime defense, you know? I mean, you don't see those very often.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and an area where you can use a game manager quarterback and still get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But um, I mean, yeah, tough stretch for us. Um, it looks like take one Should possibly be back. I'm hoping he is. I'm good. Should, cuz I'm trying to convince myself that he's gonna be back, even though it's not gonna make a difference, because it is, though I think it right.
Speaker 1:You don't think he'll show it improvement on your offense, like I feel, like him being out proved how much you guys suck at offense without.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a valid point. It proved how much we suck, seems we have to game plan for it. But at the end of the day, for him to do what he needs to do, he can't break tackles every damn time. They got to block sometimes and they've yet to prove that they could do that. So but We'll see when he comes back how much it changes the dynamic of the offense and which direction we go from there. But I don't know mad you could tell from the way I'm speaking. I lost all hope. I came into this thinking you know we won not games last year. You know Daniel Jones is gonna improve, the lines gonna improve. We actually got weapons. You know 10 to 12 wins is reasonable and A month into the season that shit is gone. We might. We might end up with five or six, mike.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's a big I didn't know we might end up with. We might struggle to get three or four with the way the line is blocking. I would like to see some continuity amongst alignment because, man, we read. One thing I've noticed is we've been changing linemen in and out because the injuries and lack of and a lack of good play, so Lime and I being productive. So that's another thing, man. You know, when the Giants won them Super Bowl, they had continuity up front and they had a chemistry and Damn near. You know, I want to say every year everybody was healthy. We were fortunate enough that in Eli's era, yeah, the linemen were healthy for the most part and it showed. But damn, this is crazy. I mean, I really thought Evan Neil was gonna help fortify that line when we drafted him last year and solidify things and really help Daniel Jones game, but he's Been a bust.
Speaker 1:I'd say, give it one more year. I.
Speaker 2:See where you coming from. But the thing is I Trust Shane because I think he can build a team together. I just think he's having to clean up the other GM shit and having to yeah, I'm trying to implement his own stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah the thing is this Coaches and GM's got ego and we saw this with Eric flowers. Why they didn't move Eric flowers fast enough to the guard once you saw he's not a tackle. Okay, I get it, he was a top 10 pick and you don't want to use a top 10 pick on a guard. That's where the whole philosophy comes from. But if you're, if you're not getting production out of the person you drafted at tackle and you know you can play guard shit, try him out a guard. But no, these GM's got egos. They don't want to prove that they're wrong with their picks. They don't want to prove that they're wrong with their free agencies and bench certain players and free agency and they stick with the ego and they go downhill.
Speaker 1:So is that what's happening? So I mean GM is calling where the offensive line coach and the head coach position players, because if he's doing that I would get a different GM, the GM. I don't want Brandon being telling me how fucking players how to play. That's not. That's not their role, in my opinion. Their role is to be a GM. Get me fucking players, I'll tell you where they belong on the fucking field. Joe Shane should not be saying this dude needs to move and Like why would you want him called? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I can't say for certain that they are, I'm just speculating. Oh. Okay, my bad, my bad you know cuz, we know, cuz, we know, cuz we know GM's have egos and, at the end of the day, drafted Evan, nailed to be a tackle.
Speaker 2:He's gonna bust that tackle. I know it's only been a year, but if he can't move side to side fast enough to be a tackle, why don't you move him inside? They haven't done it yet, so to me that's an ego thing. Your whole line is shit. So what are you gonna lose at moving him to guard and trying somebody else at a tackle at this point?
Speaker 1:You got nothing else to lose your coach need to handle that one and we signed a guard Um, right guard and free agency.
Speaker 2:I mean it was three years, 21 million dollar deal, but he's been shit. So that's what I said with the free agencies in the draft. I'm mainly talking about that line. So I have no problems with the senator. Senator's been Solid in my opinion, but the senator we draft in the second round, john Michael Smith's, but we brought in a guard, free agency. It's been shit. It was last year, it's been shit this year and then the tackle has been shit.
Speaker 2:So I think it's ego problem. And come on, man, you got to admit you know all these people got egos. I mean how everybody has an ego. That's what I said in the song. I got a big ego, shit's true. You know what I mean, mm-hmm. So I'm just speculating. But if you, if you're that pathetic at one position, it makes common sense as moving to another position where you can play. They haven't done it.
Speaker 1:I think that's coaching. I really do. I really think that's your coaching.
Speaker 2:Well, if it's coaching, if it's GM it's, it's a level of incompetence and if it's coaching, it goes back to what I said. I don't trust Dave all higher because he came from the Patriots and there's only really been two Patriot coordinators. That's been successful and I know he had his run with the bills but he won what? Three Super Bowls with the Patriots. So to me he had a member. He came, he was with bill check for a lot longer than he was with the bills mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So that's why I say he came from the Patriots. But yeah, this day bullshit looks like fools. Gold Coach of the year and this year is just flopping out. Did you see him throw the tablet at Daniel Jones and have no emotion?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what? Why? What happened there Did like they called a different player something and Daniel didn't run it like I don't understand what happened, why he threw the tablet.
Speaker 2:I believe that was after the pick, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. But okay, I thought I thought I saw his interview and he was saying I called a run or I called a pass or something Like I don't remember. He called a plane, daniel did the opposite it, I guess, and that's what. He was mad, I could have.
Speaker 2:That could have been it to okay. I was both, but I mean based off Daniel Jones play. Either way, we know he's mad. He's mad about the play and who knows, maybe Dave all and Shane was forced to sign Daniel Jones or was it there either?
Speaker 1:Oh, we can. Oh, I turned around and I could turn Dana Jones around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or maybe it was ego, but the point I'm trying to make is okay, um, we all know none. We all know a lot of these quarterbacks on where, if the money that they get put the market is what the market is. But at the end of the day, they should have franchised him or they should have just forced him to test for agency and been like come back to us and see what all the other offers are, and if you legit have a 40 million dollar offer, we'll give you this offer, not just give it to him For fun, which what it seems like they did. I Don't know, it is what it is, but I don't expect our season to get better. I only expected to get worse. We'll get some wind sprinkled here and there, but Hope for the season is lost. Sorry, but it's lost Giants fans. It's lost for Jets fans too, so it's just a bad all around For New York sports team.
Speaker 1:All right, they all have it. Another addition our week for thoughts. Mike says the Giants are completely done and I'm hoping for a super, so I guess that's where we stand after a month of the season. Folks, take care, have a good one, peace.
Speaker 2:Peace.