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Fantasy football draft day is rapidly approaching, and it's time to sharpen your strategy. This episode dives into two powerful approaches that could set your team apart—Zero RB and Hero RB strategies—breaking down when to use them and how to adapt mid-draft.

We explore the art of stacking quarterbacks with their pass-catchers to maximize your point potential. Beyond the obvious premium combinations like Burrow-Chase, we reveal more affordable pairings such as Prescott-Lamb, Murray-McBride, and Nix-Sutton that could deliver championship-caliber returns without breaking your draft capital bank.

Training camp updates bring critical information about backfield situations in flux and significant injuries affecting draft boards. Quinshon Judkins has been cleared of charges and is expected to join the Browns, potentially offering late-round value. Meanwhile, Rashee Rice faces a potential 6+ game suspension, Matthew Stafford continues dealing with back issues, and Khalil Shakir's high ankle sprain creates opportunity for Keon Coleman in Buffalo.

Our sleeper segment highlights players flying under the radar who could become league-winners, including Braelon Allen as a potential committee back in New York, Keon Coleman's opportunity in Buffalo's receiving corps, rookie Jayden Higgins forming the "two towers" with Nico Collins in Houston, and a controversial but potentially rewarding late pick in Kyle Pitts at his TE17 price point.

Whether you're crafting your draft strategy, identifying key stacks, or hunting for those final-round gems, this episode provides the blueprint for fantasy football success in 2024. The draft board awaits—are you ready?

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Speaker 1:

All right, guys, today we've got stacks and sleepers and we're also going to get you updated on camp. Let's get you ready for your fantasy drafts, guys, let's go All right, all right, all right. Welcome to the show. This is the Frankly Fantasy Football Podcast. We are your hosts, frankie and Johnny. Welcome in, frankie. It's getting tick-tock. Baby. It's getting close to time, man Boy we're getting close.

Speaker 2:

We're about two weeks out from the biggest draft weekend man of the year and let me tell you I don't know if I've ever been this excited outside of maybe Christmas time and last year around this time. So you know, I'm ready for it, man. This is what it's all about.

Speaker 1:

This is your Christmas time, man. This is, you know, trying to schedule your five, six fantasy drafts, you know, hitting the trophies polished up and ready to give to the next guy. This is great, man. This is great. Two weeks away, guys, we are almost there. Some of you are already drafting. I don't recommend that, but some of you are currently drafting. Yeah, it's crazy. So let's go, man, we're getting excited here. Welcome to the show, guys.

Speaker 1:

Today we're going to be talking about stacks and sleepers. Frankie and I are going to throw out some stacks. There's obvious ones, but we're going to throw out some other sneaky ones and give you, guys, some ideas of how that can help you. We're also going to be talking about sleepers, guys. These are guys that end of the draft later on, the guys that we think are going to outperform their ADPs, guys that really aren't on a lot of people's radar. So we're going to be talking about that. We're also going to be getting into some camp news. There's a lot of shit happening out there, frankie. Some of these backfields are getting weird. We got some tissue issues on some receivers, so we've got to watch what's going on here. But first, guys, let's talk about some draft strategies Frankie. A couple of draft strategies.

Speaker 2:

You always hear people talk about zero RB, hero RB or anchor RB.

Speaker 2:

Let's just talk a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Frankie, can you lay out a little bit of what Zero RB strategy really is? And, john, when we're talking about zero RB guys, this is where maybe you're in the front end of the draft and you end up selecting Jamar Chase or you end up selecting another receiver, right, and basically what this means is you're not selecting a running back until round five or past that, and so what you're doing is you're filling out your roster with top tier receivers. Maybe in round two, round three, you're getting one of the top tier tight ends, maybe you're getting a quarterback like Josh Allen, jaden Daniels, lamar Jackson, maybe in round two, three as well. But basically the goal of a zero RB is to say, hey, I'm not willing to take an RB just because of where my pick is, maybe within your particular draft. So you're filling out that particular roster and then you're waiting in that back end to maybe grab a Tony Pollard or a Najee Harris or somebody like that that's going to have a nice soft or nice high floor to pair with your really high ceiling type of players?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely, and that's what that is. It's basically you're getting the top tight end, top quarterback tiers, top receiver tiers and filling that out. So you're looking at round six, seven. You're getting your receivers, your flex, everything's set, and then you're going for running backs. Good strategy if you're looking full PPR, if you're in a three-receiver league. I mean, those are the areas that I'm looking at.

Speaker 1:

This strategy, obviously, if you're in a standard league, running backs are at a high premium. You're not doing this guy, it's okay. Also, keep in mind, don't go into your draft saying I'm doing zero rb. Don't do that, guys. You got it. Like frankie said, you got to stay water, but as you're going through, maybe to round, you know you get to round two, three. You're like, okay, wait a second, the way this is shaping up, I'm gonna try zero rb here.

Speaker 1:

And then you're looking at round six, seven, to start filling out your running backs. Yeah, so, frankie, if you're not taking a running back till, like round six, let's say, I mean some of the guys that we're going to be looking at in that area. So you're looking at your running back ones and twos here. This is where you start. Now, after round six, you, you have to hammer running backs Because we all know the injury bug hits running backs first. The workload's just so much they take a beating. But guys, frankie, what are some of the guys you're looking at and do you feel comfortable having these guys? If you've got a roster full of studs, do you feel comfortable having these guys as your running backs? What do?

Speaker 2:

you get. Yeah, guys, some of the players you're going to see and I mentioned one of them already is Tony Pollard, absolutely Somebody that you can anchor your running back room on, if you have right, the talent from the receiver, tight end, quarterback perspective. And the other guys, I mean you could look at Aaron Jones. Potentially he could fall, and then what I would do is, if I'm drafting Aaron Jones, I'm locking up that Vikings backfield. Then I'm absolutely then drafting Jordan Mason. That way, in case something happens to Aaron Jones or Jordan Mason, then that running back becomes a true RB1.

Speaker 2:

And, john, there's also, like Caleb Johnson's of the world, the Brian Robinson juniors, jalen Warren's, right, and so, yes, they're not the sexiest of names, guys, but if this is the strategy that you find yourself on, just remember you're looking for floor and Johnny you mentioned it very well, or you mentioned it just a few minutes ago to where you're going to go wild on running back.

Speaker 2:

So if you end up drafting three receivers in a row, or maybe two receivers in a row, quarterback, tight end, another receiver, you're filling out your roster. From that standpoint, you should absolutely, without a question of a doubt, at least, be going three to four running backs following that, and the reason being is because you need depth there, you don't want to have a bunch of holes, and with this rookie class as well, you could find goal. You could find pay dirt. Think about Bucky Irving last year. Think about some of these other guys that came through that were drafted way back end of your draft or middle of the rounds. Guys, this is the perfect type of scenario with the rookie running backs that we have today. And I know right, john, we're going to be talking about Quinshawn.

Speaker 2:

Quinshawn could also be somebody that you look to target as a flyer right, that where you can end up having him as a rotational piece. So I would be looking if that strategy is applicable to how that draft kind of unfolded for you. Absolutely, look at the Tony Pollards of the world, that Aaron Jones, the Jordan Mason if you're getting Aaron Jones, brian Robinson Jr and Jalen Warren et cetera.

Speaker 1:

You can also look at guys that you know are going to start the season but are probably going to be usurped by a rookie. Very possible JK Dobbins is one of those guys. You could look at a Najee Harris. You can look at a Nick Chubb, who's probably going to start the season. This is also a case, like you mentioned before, of grabbing two guys in the same backfield, and the reason why is because you're so thin at running back that you want to lock in backfield, and the reason why is because you're so thin at running back that you want to lock in. If one of those guys gets hurt, you've got the guy then who's going to get the full workload. But, guys, in this strategy, there's no way around it. Unless you get super lucky drafting, you're going to be playing the waiver wire. You're going to have to be super active and you're going to have to pay attention to those backfields and that's where you can get some gold. Now, frankie, if we're looking at anchor RB or hero RB, that's really where you're taking and this is a little more it. It's it's easier to stomach than zero RB. I'm an old school guy. I love a stable of ponies on my team. It's just hard to not have a bunch of good running backs on your team. But if you can get out of that and feel good about it, anchor RB or hero RB is a way to go. This is where you're going to lock in an early running back, whether it's round one or two, and then you're going to wait. Same thing You're going to push every other position you've got get your quarterback, tight end, great receivers. Then you're going to wait for your RB2.

Speaker 1:

I love this strategy a lot. You can grab a Bajon Robinson, you can grab a Jameer Gibbs, you can grab an Ashton Gentry and then you know you're set. You're anchoring your team on that running back and fill out all the other positions. Your team's going to look good. I mean the bottom line. The reason why I like this strategy a lot is because you're always gone. I personally feel like I'm always playing that carousel at RB2, playing the waiver wire, trying to pick up trades, like it always seems to be my weakest spot, but it's an area that you can fill with waiver wire pickups. You can do one week starts, you know. So I like playing that carousel. So the hero rb strategy I tend to play a lot. What do you think about that one?

Speaker 2:

no, I like it, john, and actually, guys, this is a really cool strategy as well. If you're in a three receiver league because this is something that I've done as well, to where I'm thinking last year, right, and I've been in a three receiver league, because this is something that I've done as well, to where I'm thinking last year, right, and I've been in a three receiver league. Now, I mean, john, you and I are in one, guys. I've been in two Superbowls, back-to-back Superbowls, one one, and so I've actually implemented whether I actually, two years ago, I did a zero RB strat and last year actually did a hero RB strat for this and it was really fascinating because I could lock in it was actually Jameer Gibbs and then, following that, I went crazy on receivers, guys. I even waited on quarterback, right, because at that point in time, the top quarterbacks were off the board. So why stress out, why cause issues with your fantasy team, when you know that the point differential between the receivers versus that of stressing out and reaching for a quarterback is not that much? And so for me, man, I really did like the hero RB strat, even in a three receiver league, because I got that guy that I know I can anchor on. I ended up doing four receivers in a row and then I went back to the well at running back. So now your running back two is actually going to be who your running back one would be in your zero RB strategy, right? They running back two is now your Tony Pollard, your Caleb Johnson, your Aaron Jones, and then you can potentially get a Justin Herbert right, or a Dak Prescott or a Brock Purdy or a Kyler Murray If he falls something like that to where. Okay, I feel a little bit warm and fuzzy.

Speaker 2:

Now here is the issue. Now here is the issue. If your running back gets hurt, your hero rb, you're screwed, it hurts. So that's the one caveat. So we've actually seen this unfold. When cmc actually got hurt, one of the guys on one of our leagues actually ended up doing a hero rb straddle cmc. When he went down, his team imploded. He didn't have the receiving core to help back the loss of that. True running back. And so that is the caveat here, guys, to me, john, I actually think there's a little bit less risk in doing a zero RB than there is doing a hero RB, because you're basing your team off of especially in a half PPR off of that one true stallion that you end up drafting. So it's it's kind of six one way, half dozen the other. But you got to make sure either way you go, if you don't choose, if you don't have the ability or don't choose to do a balanced team, then you need to be making sure, no matter what it is you're, you're hawking that waiver wire like crazy.

Speaker 1:

And there are some guys you're right. I mean, that brings up a good point that I would not do. The anchor or hero RB with CMC is one of those guys.

Speaker 2:

It just is.

Speaker 1:

Ashton Gentry, maybe one of those guys as well, because he's a rookie because we haven't seen him play, because the team's not good, you know, I mean it could be a generational talent, but still risk at that price point. It's still a risk First-round running back still.

Speaker 2:

John, I think to your point, man, I think the guys if you are seriously interested in a hero RB strategy, I personally think there's only a few guys that you can do this with. Be Saquon Barkley, be John Robinson, jameer Gibbs and John, that's probably maybe Derrick Henry, maybe Derrick Henry. Bibs and John, that's probably maybe Derek Henry, maybe Derek Henry. Even Devon HN makes me a little bit nervous, um, just because of his workload.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'll throw one other guy in there. I'll throw one other guy in there. It's Josh Jacobs. I think he could be a potential for a hero RB strategy. I really do. Yeah, okay, that's interesting. Yeah, he's going what Second third round? You know, I think that's a guy you could draft him. He's got just a huge volume. You know, we've seen him be the workhorse year over year over year. I think he's a guy you could do that with as well, and then you could load up the rest of your team.

Speaker 2:

I you know a little bit less of a risk there All right, we got a couple of big signings here.

Speaker 1:

Some money, baby, let's go. Yeah, bill signed James Cook running back to a four-year $48 million extension 30 milli guaranteed. Let's go. Paid, pa-paid, all right, no worries about james cook at this point. I like it. Uh, keenan allen. Hey, welcome back here, buddy keenan allen, heading back to the chargers, signing a one-year deal 8.52 million dollars with the chargers frankie. Is there any fantasy value to keenan allen with hell yes not even a question of a doubt, guys.

Speaker 2:

You're going to draft him and you're going to get him for dirt cheap. I love Keenan Allen this year.

Speaker 1:

I think it's going to be interesting with Laddie in there too. He could help Laddie, because what they're going to have to do I mean Laddie's a slot guy and so is Keenan Allen, so they're going to have to move these guys around we could see some interesting and different routes out of Laddie this year because of that. So, yeah, I'm all for it. Man, I don't want keenan allen. I don't think there's standalone value really. Maybe he'll be a waiver wire pickup or a guy you can plug in, uh, for a spot start, but uh, yeah it's really interesting I think it helps the team and it helps herbert.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, uh, last signing here. Frankie, this is a weird one. I'm gonna need your help on this guy. All right, the brown. The Browns have signed Texas wide receiver, undrafted rookie Isaiah Bond. Talk to me a little bit about who this guy is and is there any value potentially to this?

Speaker 2:

The Browns just can't help themselves, John, I mean if you have like a? Sexual assault or domestic abuse. It's like, okay, we're going to wait, we're going to wait Come on Perfect Signed. Like what? What is this? You know what I mean. Between Mr Massage man, you got Quinn John, you got Mike Hall and you got this.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy. I think they're just the Browns are throwing the sixth quarterback room.

Speaker 2:

Sixth quarterback room.

Speaker 1:

I think they're just throwing shit on the ceiling and seeing what sticks and you know what. Fine, whatever the worst team in the NFL, throw some more shit on the ceiling. Let's see who is isaiah bond is he on the ceiling and is he gonna stick?

Speaker 2:

yeah, you know what guys he absolutely the shit on the ceiling should stick for this guy and I'll tell you why. Because going into the draft of the actual nfl draft of last year guys, he was a day two guy all day. He was going to go in the second round, maybe early. Third, his comp was honestly will uh, will fuller, or like an old school Brandon Cooks kind of flyer guy.

Speaker 2:

I mean absolute burner man. Yeah, I mean, think of Xavier Worthy light, that is the best way to think of him. And so, yeah, man, there absolutely is value here. What we saw in preseason game one, I mean Deontay Johnson four drops, three drops. Right, I mean, jamari Thrash looked like shit I mean just calling it what it is. And yeah, I mean I know that they have Jerry Judy who's going to perform pretty damn well, especially with Flacco. We're seeing that in camp. Cedric Tillman I mean there's still a question mark there. I mean, right, we saw him for four games explode outside of that. Right, we haven't seen much. So for me, man, yeah, I think he is a guy that could be really interesting. I'm not going to overhype it because he might not even make it through camp We'll have to see but I think it's a very interesting signing by the Browns and I think it's totally worth the Browns to do this.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's see. By the way, xavier Worthy Light, I mean, what is that? Like 125 pounds, what's that? Yeah, yeah right, it's soaking wet.

Speaker 2:

It's soaking wet.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's get to some suspension news here. Frankie, we got some good news kind of, I guess yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, stay with the Browns here. Baby Quinn Sean Judkins. Quinn Sean Judkins, rookie running back out of Ohio State, will not face formal charges and expects to join the team and sign shortly. This is great news, guys. Great news Doesn't sound like there's going to be. I think the NFL is still going to investigate, but doesn't sound like there may be any disciplinary action, so we may be okay. Now what do you do with Quint? Sean, though, hasn't been at camp. He doesn't have a contract, so he's got to sign this week and he's got to get on the fucking field. He's got to get into practice, but do you think you could see him? Really, are they going to fast track him in camp and on practice and preseason? I mean, guys?

Speaker 2:

100% in the fucking ball right. Give him the ball, let him run. I mean, dude, he is. He is a superstar running back like what we've seen from the Browns. Jerome Ford isn't getting it done. Dylan Sampson I'm really excited for him for the preseason games that he'll be playing in, but really there is a teardrop and you draft Quenshawn Judkins who realistically could have been a first-round draft pick in the very early goings of the second round. And guys, I mean, when you waste draft capital like that, you are needing him on the field. So for me, when looking about it from a fantasy football perspective, I love it.

Speaker 2:

You wait, you sit, sit and you can get potentially an rb1 level status for an rb65 level, uh, adp. So for me, man, yeah, I'm all, I'm all over taking a shot on quinshawn watch camp guys.

Speaker 1:

We'll get you updated on the news and let you know what the progress looks like with quinshawn, but right now he's the running back 33. He's going off the board in. You know what the progress looks like with Quinn Sean, but right now he's the running back 33. He's going off the board and eight, you know, 89. So you know he's like a six, seven round hit. Right now that's going to go up. So just monitor that and pay attention, because once he starts getting the ball and getting in that backfield in Cleveland people are going to want to draft this guy, no question. All right, let's get a little rushy rice news here. Man, he's going to have a formal disciplinary hearing with the NFL on September 30th, so right now he's able to play the first four games.

Speaker 1:

But, guys, there's a big suspension looming here. Frank, this is much, much deeper than I thought. The news coming out is that the NFL came out, really wanted to suspend him for 10 goddamn games, 10 games. And obviously the NFLPA was like Whoa, whoa. That is unprecedented. We've never seen any type of disciplinary action for this type of thing. But the problem is is that I mean, frankie, they're starting the negotiation basically at 10. Yeah, this is not going to be a three game suspension man. So, yeah, does this change things for you? What does this do for you with Rasheed Rice?

Speaker 2:

Guys, if you can get Rasheed Rice as your flex piece, then I'm fine with it, right, because that means then you end up having your top two receivers locked in. You more than likely have your running back, you probably have a quarterback. I mean, john, when I'm looking at Rasheed Rice, his ADP is 50 right now and half PPR, and he's receiver 23,. But that's kind of skewed because, right, that's going to drop when, when you know, we figure out what's going on. So for me, man, if you can get him dirt cheap, I'm not opposed to drafting him. But if he, if he's going truly around where his ADP is, guys, I'm not touching him with a 10 foot pole.

Speaker 2:

What this means is he could end up playing for four, three, three to four weeks, be suspended for six. So that puts you at week 10. And six is like I'm beating in the middle here. So it could be seven, it could be eight, let's say it's six. He plays for four weeks, that's 10 weeks. So you're not going to see him and he's not going to be a part of the team, all these different things.

Speaker 2:

Xavier Worthy could come up and take a much larger load. They also drafted Royals, who apparently he's looking really solid out of camp and doing some reps with the first team. So I mean we could see some crazy shit happen to where you know as good as Rasheed Rice has been with Patrick Mahomes, we could see some of these younger cats start stepping up big time and then Rasheed Rice might not be that for sure fire go-to number one guy on that team anymore. It might be like more of a 1A, 1b, 1c kind of thing. So for me, if you can get him dirt cheap, it's okay, but I would absolutely not be drafting him just because he's playing in the first three weeks, because it will screw your fantasy team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it absolutely will. I mean he's still. We did the off my board episode. He's still off my board. You know, I just don't want a guy. There's plenty of guys in that range. When you're looking at Devonta Smith, you're looking at Zay Flowers, tedaroa McMillan, jamo George Pickens, calvin Ridley.

Speaker 2:

I want all those guys yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I want all those guys over Rasheed Rice knowing that, all right, you get him the first three weeks and then what? Four or five weeks minimum. Probably you're going to be missing him in the middle of the season. I just don't want that. I want to take those other guys that I know are going to be there.

Speaker 1:

Now the other thing this does I was all over Travis Kelsey. That's the first time I've ever targeted to draft Travis Kelsey because I think he was at a value, especially knowing Rasheed Rice was going to miss time With Rasheed Rice there. I don't want Travis Kelsey now. You know, I just don't see him as that much of a value because those targets aren't going to be to his alone. Now he will, I'll try to trade for him, possibly in the middle of the season, knowing that a Rasheed Rice suspension is coming down. Maybe I can get one over on the Travis Kelsey owner. But yeah, I'm not drafting him now because of that. Okay, uh, let's move on here.

Speaker 1:

One last suspension jordan addison, wide receiver for the minnesota vikings, suspended the first three games of the season with substance abuse policy. Uh, that's taking him pretty much straight off my board here. Frank, and we've also got jj. Get into a little camp news here. But jj's been banged up man. We haven't seen a whole lot of him on the practice field. So a little nervous with that Minnesota offense right now, you know, definitely not going crazy on JJ McCarthy without Addison, with a hobbled JJ. We're just going to have to monitor and see what goes on there. Let's get to some more camp here, guys. Travis Hunter held out of the preseason game with an upper body injury. Keep an eye on that upper body injury. Keep an eye on that.

Speaker 1:

Jordan Love, frank, I want you to talk to me a little bit about the Packers offense here. Jordan Love, he's undergoing a procedure on his left thumb, his non-throwing hand. He is expected, from what they're saying, to be ready week one. But he's not going to be playing, he's not going to be building rapport with these receivers and the receivers are kind of in flux at the moment too. Christian Watson, you can wipe him off. He's likely to start the season on the pup. And we've got some other injuries with Jaden Reed, romeo Dubs, frankie. What's going on at that offense in Green Bay?

Speaker 2:

Guys, they had one of the deepest receiver rooms heading into the season, to the point to where there were talks of they cannot keep all these guys. They got to trade Dontavian Wicks, they got to trade Romeo Dubs. Maybe they get a big offer for Jaden Reed, something along those lines. And now to your point, man. You got Jordan Love a little bit banged up. I think he's going to be okay, but what this does for me is I think it actually moves Jordan Love down my board. I'm not saying he's off it, I'm saying he's down it because the receiver room is in disarray. You mentioned Jaden Reed's hurt. We have Christian Watts in her. Romeo Dubs is a little bit banged up. And then you got Dontavian Wicks, who's a little bit banged up and also was dropping passes quite a bit this training camp. And now you have Matthew Golden, who they drafted in the first round this year, and he's pretty much the only healthy cat.

Speaker 2:

And so for me, man, what this does entirely, I'm shifting my focus immediately to Josh Jacobs. For me, this actually raises Josh Jacobs on my board. And when we talked about the hero RB strat, jonna, I think you're right. You can do that with Josh Jacobs and what we've seen from him in the last few years. I mean, guys, it wasn't too long ago Josh Jacobs was the king of the NFL in terms of the most rushing yards, right, and so when we seen him come into the packers uh type of offense with matt lafleur, etc. He looked very good. So with everything else happening around, tucker craft becomes more interesting and definitely josh jacobs becomes very interesting absolutely, man, absolutely all right, let's keep rolling.

Speaker 1:

here. Here's another one that's uh, it's gonna have some fantasy implications here, guys. Anytime a quarterback is hurt, it affects every fantasy option on that team. Matthew Stafford with the Los Angeles Rams His back saga continues. Here, guys, it's a little sketchy and we're not getting great information, but he's been held out of practice. He got an epidural for an aggravated disc in his back and right now he's weak to weak. How nervous are you, frankie, are you? How nervous are you, on a scale from everything's going to be fine to shitting your pants?

Speaker 2:

I would say I'm sharting. I would say I'm sharting my pants, so I'm not fully shitting, but I'm like you know, I'm, I'm quite, I'm getting close.

Speaker 1:

So, guys, and the reason You're checking your underwear to make sure I'm checking You're like fuck you know, I hope that it just happened.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean, and that's really what it is, guys, because if you end up drafting, let's just say you take Puka, let's say you take Devontae Adams, right? The issue is, matt Stafford is one hit away from everything, crumbling right and and right because they I mean who's the backup john right now? Check me on this. I think it's jimmy garoppolo, maybe it's jimmy g, jimmy g so I mean, yeah, it's a viable backup, but I mean it ain't matthew stafford level of play is it a viable backup?

Speaker 1:

we've seen jimmy g play with davante adams before and guess what it wasn't beautiful no, no, it wasn't, and so for but.

Speaker 2:

But what I'm saying is is it's not like a Sean Mullins walking out or Nick Mullins walking out there, something like even Zach Wilson right, I'm taking Jimmy G over those guys. But what this does for me, man, yeah, Like when we did our, would you rather, um guys, check out that episode? It was fantastic. We really broke down some of these similar guys that you're going to be looking at in your drafts. One of them was Puka versus Nico Collins. John, it makes it even easier, it's Nico Collins there. So what I'm saying is is some of these guys are going to start dropping down on the boards a bit. From an ADP perspective, Maybe you think they're good value. However, on the back end, just know you are one hit away from Matthew Stafford, you know, because I mean fucking up a disc in the back. I mean that's serious, that's serious shit. So, yes, technically he's on pace and expected and optimistic. The Rams are optimistic that he'll play week one. However, again, anything can change from one particular hit.

Speaker 1:

All right, keep an eye on that, guys. All right, tajay Spears, running back for the Tennessee Titans, has a high ankle sprain. He's going to be out for the next few weeks. Guys, this is going to boost Tony Pollard. Okay, tony Pollard's the man right now. So, in Tajay Spears, honestly, when he was healthy, didn't have great season last year, you know. So I think this is going to move Tony Pollard up. Keep an eye on that. But I'm drafting Tony Pollard with confidence at the moment. But I'm drafting Tony Pollard with confidence at the moment. Najee Harris had an eye issue. He's starting to jog a little bit with the eye, which is funny, but it must be. You know they got to worry about your like your lens. You know that stuff falls, so it must have been something like that, which is why he's, you know, easing back into it, getting better right now. But there's no timeline yet and we're only a couple of weeks away here. Frank, talk to me a little bit about that. Los Angeles Chargers backfield.

Speaker 2:

I mean, guys, it's going to be a 50-50 split once he is healthy. So let's just make sure, like, yes, najee is banged up, but also an eye injury, right, is not an injury to your legs as a running back, it's not an injury to your upper body, right? So, once his eye is okay, I mean, najee Harris is I mean, john, check me on this he has four seasons in a row of a thousand yards. I mean I think that that's pretty fantastic. Then you layer that in a Jim Harbaugh type of offense to where we've seen him just over the past year with JK Dobbins, gus Edwards In college, we've seen him with Donovan Edwards and that of Blake Corum.

Speaker 2:

He loves a two back tandem. And so, guys, I think Najee Harris is a really sneaky pick. This is almost a gift, as bad as it sounds, but it's almost a gift in the fantasy world, because his ADP has dropped to where you could get a diamond in the rough, I mean, dare I say, a David Montgomery S type of player that you can plug in and maybe be a true RB2 for your team or maybe that flex piece. And so for me, man, yeah, I think this is really interesting. From an NFL standpoint it kind of sucks for the Chargers, but from a fantasy perspective, yeah, man, it's almost like slightly. You know, here's a little gift for you if you're around that particular time frame of drafting him.

Speaker 1:

Watch this backfield, guys, because we're not sure if Najee's going to be there. They definitely want to have a 50-50 split. That's what all the coaches are coming out and saying, which sucks for Amari and Hampton, because we're very excited for him and he can take the load. I think it's very smart, though, not having him do that, but they may not have a choice. If Najee can't go for a few weeks, omarion may just take the job and run with it. But at the moment keep an eye on the backfield Kamani Vidal is back there as well. I think we're going to see both of them split time in the preseason games, so keep an eye on that, all right.

Speaker 1:

Khalil Shakir right now a wide receiver with Josh Allen in Buffalo Week to week with a high ankle sprain. High ankle sprain's not good. He ankle sprain, high ankle sprain's not good. He may not start the season. Guys, this is going to take a few weeks. They're typically about four weeks to go with a high ankle sprain. So, frankie, talk to me. What does this do with that offense now, man?

Speaker 2:

I mean Keon Coleman and Josh Palmer, no-transcript. And again, we mentioned in a prior episode guys, three-year deal is not a one-year deal. They want Josh Palmer to come in here and make an impact. So yeah, I mean, and also I want to be crystal clear I'm not also saying don't draft Cleo Shakur, Like I think once Cleo Shakur is going to be healthy, he could absolutely be a top tier flex piece for you. So what this does is it raises Keon Coleman, at least for now, and that of Josh Palmer for me, and it kind of still stays pretty flat for Cleo Shakur for me as well. So, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how Buffalo handles this.

Speaker 1:

All right, moving on here. Josh Downs left practice this week with a hamstring, AJ Brown left. It's a minor hamstring issue with AJ Brown. Malik Neighbors this one makes me a little bit nervous too. I love Malik Neighbors, I want him everywhere. But Frank, he's got two kind of injuries here. He's kind of been hobbled with a toe injury and now he's day to day with a shoulder injury. So it doesn't seem like it's super serious. But guys, if you're drafting Malik neighbors in the first round, I don't like to draft guys in the first round that have some issues, you know, that are coming into the season hurt. So keep an eye on this. Hopefully everything will be fine.

Speaker 2:

John, I'll tell you what I'm drafting. Amon Ross St Brown over Malik Neighbors.

Speaker 1:

If he's going in a little hobbled, then yes, I will too. It'll change one or two guys that I may take in front of him If it's not looking like it's going to be a lingering situation. Jj, like I talked about recovering from a hamstring. Hopefully he gets on the field soon. Mike Gasicki this one's interesting and the reason I bring this up. He's dealing with a hamstring too. Now they signed Noah Fant as well as the backup. Now this tight end for the Bengals is an important position, guys, and the only reason it's super important is if T Higgins goes down. We've seen the tight end Mike Gasicki be the beneficiary of those targets, so keep an eye on that. If you've got a Joe Burrow, jamar Chase stack picking up, that Kosicki play is kind of sneaky for a super stack there, but keep an eye on that. You might want to even look at Noah Fant as a flyer if Kosicki doesn't start the season. Okay, damian Pierce Interesting Running back for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1:

We've been talking a little bit about this backfield because Joe Mixon's been hurt. Joe Mixon, we're still not sure if he's going to be okay to go week one starting the season. We're going to have to keep an eye on that. But Damian Pierce is back at practice splitting reps with Nick Chubb Very interesting. We talked about Woody Marks being their third down guy, their speed, you know, receiving back. But Damian Pierce kind of all of a sudden now is a little bit relevant in fantasy, just like Josh Palmer this week. All of a sudden now he's a bit relative relevant as well, keeping on that backfield. These are late round guys you can grab, or maybe you want to grab, joe Mixon. He's off my board because of the injury in the backfield. But if you grab Joe Mixon, look to Damian Pierce, look to Nick Chubb, because those guys will be starting the season most likely. Damian Pierce. Look to Nick Chubb, because those guys will be starting the season most likely.

Speaker 1:

Uh, the last guy here I want to talk about Alexander Madison running back, traded, picked up. I don't know if he was traded or if he was picked up. He's traded, uh, to the Miami Dolphins. He is the backup to Devon Achan. He's placed on IR guys with a neck injury. Frankie, what is this backfield looking like? Because we love Achan. So is this changing anything for like? Because we love A-Chance, is this changing anything for us? What are we doing?

Speaker 2:

Guys, this is just honestly. This is just saying it's A-Chance show, right Right now. We know that they currently have Jalen Wright behind him and a few others. I'm not worried about any of that at all. I mean they also have Ollie Gordon, who is a rookie this year. I mean, in all honesty, if he would have came out in 2024 instead of 2025 NFL draft, he would have probably been second, third round pick instead of back of the NFL draft and so, yeah, he has some viability to him. But the reality is, man, it would take for A-Chan to go down for any of these guys to even get a shot. It is A-Chan, full heartedly for that backfield.

Speaker 1:

I'm all over him, man, I am all over A-Chan. Give me another 87 catches this year. That's what I want out of h and baby. Let's go.

Speaker 1:

All right, frankie, let's move on. Let's get to our stacks here, baby. We want to talk about some stacks, guys, stacking your quarterback and receiver, or your quarterback and tight ends it's so much fun. It's something that we love to do. It makes the the experience of fantasy football, I think, way more fun. Your quarterback throws a bomb to your receiver. You're getting double points. You're loving life, man, it's so much fun.

Speaker 1:

Now, what I will say with stacks? I think it particularly has extra value in more shallow leagues, if you're looking at eight to 10-man leagues, because it gives you that separator of getting bonus points like that. And in deep, deep, deep leagues, when you're looking at 14 or 16 team leagues, I think it really helps with a separator in that as well. Guys, frankie, let's talk. I mean, we've got some obvious stacks. Obviously, the number one stack of the year it's gotta be joe burrow and jamar chase, right, but it's expensive as fuck. Tuba you're. You're taking the first overall pick or a top three pick, and then you have to reach up If you want that Burrow stack, you're going to reach up in the third round, likely to get that stack early in the third round there. So really interesting stuff there. Love that stack, it'll be so much fun.

Speaker 1:

I personally I'm keeping Jamar Chase, I think, in a keeper league that I've got. So I'm going to be stepping up and getting that Joe Burrow stack. No question, man, you got to have it. Let's talk about a few others though here, frankie, not some of the obvious ones, but these are kind of stacks. We're going to talk about some premium stacks here, which means you're drafting one or both of these guys in the top three rounds Generally. You're going to take a big shot at Jamar Chase and get Burrow Second. You're going to take a big shot at Jamar Chase and get Burrow Second one here I want to look at you're drafting Trey McBride in the second round and then you're going to come back around and get Kyler Murray. Talk to me a little bit about the Kyler Murray-Trey McBride stack, because it sounds super exciting to me, frank.

Speaker 2:

Guys, this is one that, yes, is a premium stack because of the tight end perspective, with Trey McBride being in the second. But then also you can wait a little bit, with Kyler Murray's ADP being 91 and him being QB nine, right. So what that means in a 10 team league, guys, that's round nine, and a 12 team league, that's round eight, back of round seven. So it gives you the ability to really target that tight end first, and then you can wait a little bit, fill out your team and then attack Kyler.

Speaker 2:

For me, guys, when looking at Kyler's number one option, yeah, we everyone, including us last year had Marv and Kyler stack. What we have found for sure is maybe that number one option over the last two years has kind of proved it is Trey McBride, right, and they might be what we see for a Kelsey Mahomes kind of stack, for right. I mean, kelsey had seven straight seasons of a thousand yards, right. So for me, guys, I mean I'm not saying Trey McBride's gonna do that, right, that's legendary shit, but what I'm saying is we could see something very similar, right, in terms of a fantasy football output. So for me, I love the Trey McBride Kyler Murray stack.

Speaker 1:

It's just, you know you got to be prepared to take a tight end at round two, or else you're screwed and looking at, looking at trey mcbride I I think this has so much upside here, frank, and the reason why I mean trey mcbride had 111 catches last year, 1146 yards. You know how many touchdowns he had Three, three. One of them was rushing. So when you're looking at the stack, he had two receiving touchdowns, guys, and he's the tight end two this year Crazy. That's positive regressions. Touchdowns are not a sticky stat but you're getting 111 catches with 1,200 yards. He's going to score more touchdowns this year, guys. So having that stack he gets. He takes two receiving touchdowns. Maybe he takes that to six to eight.

Speaker 2:

That then skyrockets.

Speaker 1:

Skyrocket. You've got an absolute stud. You're starting Trey McBride in your flex, yeah, and he's performing better than your wide receiver too. I mean, let's just go there. You know, that's the situation. I love that one. I don't even mind the Kyler Marv stack this year. I think it's going to improve. I've talked about Marv, um that I think he's going to have.

Speaker 1:

I think he's going to have a major bounce back year. I really do. So I still like that stack with the Kyler, murray and Marv stack. All right, frank, let's talk about another one here. Man Sensation Ricky sensation from last year just blew us away Jaden Daniels. We're hoping he's going to be able to repeat that. We do have Scary Terry out there as well. This one makes me a little nervous, just because, he's not gruntled. He's definitely a little disgruntled at the moment. For sure is Terry McLaurin, but the Jaden Daniels, terry McLaurin stack.

Speaker 2:

Talk to me a little bit about that one, john, for me, this is one that also makes me nervous, and the reason being is because this is a super premium, like when we talk about Burrow and Chase. I'm lumping in Jaden Daniels and Scary Terry in a similar approach. And I say that because Jaden Daniels ADP 29, qb 3. What that tells me, guys, you're going to have to take him in the third round. Okay, that just is what it is. And then you're saying that ADP for Scary Terry, his ADP is 42, receiver 19. You're also then going back to the well, right after that pick to draft Scary Terry.

Speaker 2:

What happens, I mean for me, man, what happens if there is a regression? We saw it with CJ Stroup, right, we saw it with some of these other guys from their year two standpoint in previous years. It makes me uncomfortable, it makes me super uncomfortable. So to anchor your team on a stack like this I'm actually really happy we called this out because, john, this is a stack I am not willing to draft, and I want to be crystal clear when I say that it's just too rich for me. I would rather have and I get it, everybody would rather have Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2:

But even though what I'm saying is, even though that is a super premium as well, I mean that's 101 pick and then you got to reach for Burrow Guys. That means on the snake back at two you're getting another player, and then you probably got to get Burrow at that first pick in the third round just to be able to get there because he might not make it back, and so that's super premium. But I feel way more warm and cozy there than a second year player in Jaden Daniels and Scary Terry who's been upset. And then they bring in Devo Samuel and there's been some other changes. Yeah, it just makes me feel uncomfortable. So for me this is actually a stack I was excited to talk about, because I'm not willing to do it.

Speaker 1:

I hear you, man, I absolutely hear you. I mean when you're looking at it. Yeah, you're right, if Jaden Daniels has the CJ Stroud syndrome, your team is fucked. You're tanked, you're completely tanked because that will tank Scary Terry, which we've seen Scary Terry for the past how many years without Jaden Daniels? Then he goes right back to doing that, which is barely a guy you can flex. Yeah, you know so it will tank your team.

Speaker 1:

So I love that Great call out man. I mean, these are not all obvious, you know, and not all ones we're jumping on. All right, let's move on here. Let's look at another one. This one, this one's a little cheap. You're taking a tight end in the third round. Who I love? This is George Kittle and Brock Purdy. I am all over Kittle this year. Guys, he's going to be the top option, receiving option for Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy I'm not huge on. I think he's got a great safe floor. I'm concerned about him this year because of his receiving options, but he's a boring guy. That's why I like to take swings for the fence. So brock purdy's not going to win you your league. But if you're crafting a team and you want to get a stack and you've got george kittle. I think brock purdy would be a good pick for that. What do you think about that stack?

Speaker 2:

I love this stack. Actually, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I think brock purdy is a guy that I'm willing to target if I do draft George.

Speaker 1:

Kittle. We argue about Brock Purdy all the time. Yeah, I know, but it's good.

Speaker 2:

Sorry Because like dude for me. I honestly I'm targeting George Kittle. I agree with you. I think that he has tight end, one potential written all over him and I think to get him in the back of third right. His ADP is 39. I mean, I just think that that's gold, I think that is so gold. And then you can wait on Brock Purdy. His ADP is 113.

Speaker 2:

Again, 10-team league, that's round 11. 12-team league, that's back at nine early 10. He's QB 10. Guys, that raises then Brock Purdy. If you get George Kittle on your team, and dare I say what happens, john, if you're back of one, you draft cmc, you snake back, you get your receiver, you come back and you get george kittle. This is a serious super stack, especially in a ppr, and so what that then does is that then raises purdy even more right. And yes, I get the uh, the concern with the receivers. Absolutely viable and totally true. The difference is, when I am targeting Kittle, I want as much as I can possibly get. So by having Purdy, from a point differential perspective, I don't think it's going to be that much of a loss. So, guys, I actually really, really like this stack and it's one that I will be targeting, should I have the ability to get George Kittle in the third?

Speaker 1:

All right, let's look at some cheap stacks. Those were some premium stacks. These are cheap stacks. These are where you can grab one of these guys real, real late, or you're looking at middle of the road kind of guys where you can easily put this together and you're not really going to have to reach for some people. Let's talk about one here. This used to be the top stack, Now the quarterback. He's not even a starting quarterback, he's not even a top 12 quarterback. We're talking about Dak and CD. What has changed with this stack and why do we like it so much right now again?

Speaker 2:

Guys. So again, when you're like, well, why are you saying it's a cheap stack? When you're saying CD Lamb? Because CD Lamb is going to go where he's going to go, right, he's receiver three, adp six. He will be a top six pick. So that's what it is. But the reason it's cheap is because of where you can draft Dak Prescott, guys. His ADP is 105, his QB 13.

Speaker 2:

I just think, based on what the Dallas Cowboys have done from an offensive perspective and from a defensive perspective, guys, they're putting everything in the egg basket for Dak Purdy, for Dak Prescott. Right, dak is going to be Purdy this year. Hey, mark my words. Because, dude, listen, you bring on George Pickens. I know he got a little bit. There was a scare there. I'm not sure what happened in the most recent with camp. It looks like he'll probably be fine. But for me, man, I think you get a healthy Dak Prescott and then you have a healthy CeeDee Lamb with a healthy offensive line.

Speaker 2:

Guys, we've talked about their running back room. It's dog shit. When you compare it to other NFC teams, other AFC teams, it's very much the bottom of the barrel. So that means they are absolutely going to be putting the ball in the hands of Dak. They re-signed Turd Ferguson to a long-term deal. Right, we know that they just re-signed CeeDee Lamb last year. Guys, it's Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb. So for me I think this is an excellent, excellent Chiefs stack that you can get if you end up having pick four, five, six, seven and you get CeeDee Lamb in the back of your mind. Be cool, calm, collected, don't get too excited, but make sure you have jack prescott queued up, for maybe I would probably be taking him around earlier, just in case. So again, his adp. There was 105, 10 team league, that's round 10. So I might be looking to take him in round eight, just to make sure I get him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 12 team leagues you're going to be looking, you know, look at round 10. Yeah, you know, try to target that and but yeah, I agree, I mean you draft CD, you can wait, load up on talent and in the back of your mind, you're going to grab Dak super, super late. Yeah, I love that. One quarterback off the board, josh Allen. Here's why it's a cheap stack, guys, because I mean, we just talked about the news. If you want to take Khalil Shakir and sit on him, it looks like you may have to sit on him a little bit and monitor his status. But yeah, we want to find a stack with Josh Allen. Maybe it's Keon Coleman. That's the cheap part of this, because Keon Coleman literally can be one of your last picks to take and stack him up with Josh Allen. Why would you not do that? What would you do with Josh Allen here, frank?

Speaker 2:

Oh, man, I mean this would be a dream. I mean seriously, guys. I mean if you can get Josh Allen let's just say he's ADPs 23, you're going to need to take him in the second, maybe third round if he makes it, but it's going to be second, third round there. And then if you're telling me that you're going to get a top tier quarterback like that and you can wait then to get a Khalil Shakur who's 103 ADP 46. He's listed as receiver 46.

Speaker 2:

You could also look at Keon Coleman, who's even further down the board. You could look at Joshua Palmer, which would be a really crazy deep flyer stack, but you can end up his ADPs 210. He's receiver 73. Deep flyer stack, but you can end up he's ADPs 210,. He's receiver 73. So for me, man, I think this is really fascinating. I think that this is a really cheap stack because, yes, there's a premium on the quarterback, but literally we don't know who receiver one truly is going to be, especially with Cleo Shakur banged up.

Speaker 2:

So if you could get a Keon Coleman or something like that, or I mean, maybe you go crazy, man, and you're going to stream a tight end I mean you could look at Dalton Kincaid. I mean Dalton Kincaid. Right now John is going. I mean he's not even a top 12 drafted tight end at this point in time. He's literally ADP is 120, tight end 14. Guys, that's round 12, round 11 that you can then pair with Josh Allen. So what we're getting at is josh allen is the anchor. Yeah, he's premium, but then you have all of these other guys out here that you could hit absolute gold on, and I mean it could be a lot of fun for your fantasy team.

Speaker 1:

Go get some you got josh, go pick up a couple of those pieces in round 10, 12, 13, see what you can do there, guys. Actually, the dalKincaid move. If you're punting a tight end altogether anyway and you plan on streaming and you have Josh Allen, why not grab Dalton-Kincaid? We've not seen his ceiling. No, we haven't. We haven't at all. And if Shakir doesn't go, always look at that, guys, when the slot receiver is down or the secondary receiver and targets is down, like a T Higgins, like a Khalil Shakir, it boosts the tight end, because that's that middle of the field. You know targets that you're going to get a lot more targets out of them. So why not? Why not? And then Shakir comes back, you can trade Dalton Kincaid out.

Speaker 1:

So okay, frankie, let's look at another one here. This is one I I just keep finding myself drafting this one and it's. Let's look at another one here. This is one I just keep finding myself drafting. I love this one, and there's two stacks on this team that I just continue to get and it's the same thing Bo Nix, who a quarterback I love this year, totally targeting him in middle rounds, and Cortland Sutton and or Evan Ingram. So talk to me a little bit about that Sutton and Nix stack here.

Speaker 2:

Matt. Oh man, I mean it's probably. It's arguably, arguably, outside of burrow and chase my favorite stack, and I say that because both are super cheap guys. When you look at Bo Nix is ADP 79. He's QB eight. Yes, I get like he was like to me, that is, you're not gaining any value on Bo Nix at at QB8 at this point in time unless he goes crazy and there is some hesitation that he could have a CJ Stroud here. I just don't see it.

Speaker 2:

In the Sean Payton offense and the way they've put the pieces around him. They get RJ Harvey, you get JK Dobbins. You're shoring up that backfield. You bolster some of the offensive line. The defense is incredible.

Speaker 2:

Like guys, I love Bo Nix. But then you look at Cortland Sutton Guys. He's receiver 22, adp 50, and just signed a big-time deal. They really don't have, I mean, what they have Vele, marvin, mims and really that's pretty much it. Pat Bryant, who's a rookie that we can see really kind of explode in a rookie type of way. But it is Cortland Sutton man, and to see him being outside of the top 20, I think it's, I think it's awesome for fantasy goers. I think that there's only upside here for Cortland Sutton and so for me, man, I love Bo Nix, knowing that you can get him in really round seven, uh, around that timeframe, and really look at then Sutton, at really round four, five, and if you can get Sutton as your flex, and then you can get Bo Nix as your quarterback. And now you're telling me you got two stud receivers, a stud running back, a good tight end, and then you pair a dual threat quarterback like Bo Nix and then you layer on Cortland Sutton Guys. That is excellent, that is really top tier.

Speaker 1:

So that's why I love them man, and it's a lot less risky because you're looking at rounds four through seven that you're going to be building the stack, rather than rounds like one through three. Yes, you know so, you're. It's not so risky, you're not. You're not banking your entire team based on this stack. Let's look at another risky stack here, frank. We got CJ Stroud and Nico Collins. You're taking a first rounder with Nico Collins, maybe back at the first or early second. Cj Stroud, based on what he did last year, he's free. He's free. Yeah, I mean, he's not being drafted. Let's just be honest and look at it that way. Why would you want to, or are you looking to, target this stack?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, I would be targeting this stack if I draft. Nico, what'd you say? I said explain explain yourself.

Speaker 2:

If I draft Nico Collins, right, because it raises Nico Collins and it raises CJ Stroud. When Nico Collins is playing, I mean guys, that's when CJ Stroud is really looking top notch. Collins is playing, I mean guys, that's when CJ Stroud is really looking top-notch. And so what? We saw guys last year, if you remember, cj Stroud was coming off as QB5, qb6, right after a dominant rookie year. And so now we're looking at him as QB18. I personally think that's his floor. I think that's his floor. His ADP is 129. You can get him borderline round 13, round 12. Dude to pair with Nico Collins.

Speaker 2:

Now, again, I want to be crystal clear as well I'm also drafting another quarterback. I might not be rolling out CJ Stroud to start week one, but if all of a sudden we start seeing these two get hot, that offense is rolling. Joe Mixon's heard we got Nick Chubb that we're really excited to kind of see how he performs. But again, we know his injury history right, the running attack might be a little bit down. They're going to have to rely on CJ Stroud to throw the ball everywhere and often, man, we could really see his metrics tick up. So, yes, I will be drafting another quarterback is just in case. But if we start seeing some crazy shit happen where my mind goes with, this is trade bait huge. I could package together nico collins with cj stroud to potentially get a monumental piece for my fantasy team. Or I trade away my other quarterback if we start seeing cj stroud going crazy. So that is why I am interested in cj stroud only if I am drafting nico collins okay, love that man.

Speaker 1:

All right, frankie, let's get to a couple sleepers here, guys. All right, let's see who's sleeping time. Sleepy time here, sleepy time. Yeah, take some melatonin and uh let's let's see.

Speaker 1:

Let's see who's there. Uh, so sleeper guys, just so we can actually give you a definition of that. These are guys that we were looking at that are going to be after round 11. And these are guys that are going to be super cheap, again after round 11, that are guys that we think could potentially outplay their ADP. They're not necessarily values, they're sleepers. They're sleepers for a reason, guys, because we're not projecting. They're going to be incredible, but we do think these guys will bring you more value than what they're being drafted as. So I think they're sneaky and they're sleepy. So, frankie, let's talk about a couple sleepers here. Let's talk about a running back. Okay, this is the guy I know. You love this guy. Love this. All right. Now his counterpart, who he's sharing the backfield with it was a guy that you thought was a great value in round three with Brees Hall. This is Braylon Allen. Talk to me a little bit about Braylon Allen and why you love him as a sleeper.

Speaker 2:

Guys, I love Braylon Allen because we have heard multiple times so far, aaron Glenn wants a committee backfield. He wants a 1A, 1b with that of Braylon Allen and Brees Hall, and they're also talking about Isaiah Davis as well, so he could end up getting into the mix should something happen to Brees Hall and they trade him, which I don't think it's going to happen, but it certainly could. But even if they don't, guys, when looking at Braylon Allen, his ADP is 148. 148 in a 10-team league, that is back around 14. Hey, you're picking a kicker. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

You're picking a kicker. You're picking a kicker. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

You're picking a kicker. No, I'm picking Braylon Allen. That's where you're going to be drafting this guy, right.

Speaker 1:

Definitely.

Speaker 2:

Running back 52, guys he could end up being a top 35 running back. And when we're talking about value a sleeper like kind of a guy that can return maximum value for where he's being drafted today running back 52, guys he has it written all over him, especially knowing that you got justin fields, you got garrett wilson a revamped offense. You don't have the same or uh personnel in their or front office that was there with breese hall right that drafted him. So now you know they're they're keeping their options wide open. Braylon allen's a little bit less uh from an injury risk perspective. He's huge. He's a big brute. He was excellent at Wisconsin. Guys, please, please, please, target Braylon Allen towards the back half of your draft. He could absolutely be a league winner.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's move on to another guy here. Frank, We've talked about this guy a little bit today. This guy's a very, very popular person on our podcast today. Guys, this is Keon Coleman, wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills. We talked about it with a potential cheap ass stack with Josh Allen a little convoluted in that receiver room right now, you know, with what's going on. So Keon Coleman coming into camp, coming into preseason here, he's kind of the de facto one just because he's on the field and healthy with Josh Allen. So talk to me about why you love Keon Coleman. Guys dirt cheap.

Speaker 2:

We talked about it, adp 133, receiver 51, and he has the opportunity to whether he is true receiver one on the team or receiver two on the team, which means that you can get a top tier flex for nothing, for literally nothing. And so why not take a shot on somebody like that versus? You know you're trying to really, you know, be overly cute. Maybe go with the Luther burden or somebody like that to where you know? The bears offense is kind of ridiculous If you think back to what Keenan Allen was saying. I mean, everything's pointing to like hey, caleb, you know Williams, he's got some stuff going on, and so I would rather target a guy that has more potential with a better quarterback in an open receiver room than going and trying to get too cute, Maybe with, as I mentioned, a Luther burden, a Michael Pittman jr, or even waiting on a Brandon Iuke.

Speaker 1:

Agree 100%. All right, let's talk about this guy because we both love this guy. All right, I don't even know if you can call him a sleeper, because I'm telling you, man, his ADP has to rise once drafts come around. I love, I, absolutely love him. I don't think there's a chance this guy can't overperform, massively overperform, his ADP. I'm talking about rookie receiver Jaden Higgins. With the Houston Texans, we just talked about the Nico Collins and CJ Stroud stack. What if your last two picks of your draft, frankie, are CJ Stroud and Jaden Higgins Could totally be. I don't hate that. No, I don't hate that. This guy's a red zone threat. He's a big body, just like Nico. He's going to be in the corner of the end zone with single coverage while Nico's double covered. He's a big body, just like Nico. He's going to be in the corner of the end zone with single coverage while Nico's double covered. He could score some touchdowns for you and that could be a really nice stack at the end of your draft. Why do you love Jaden Higgins so much?

Speaker 2:

Guys dirt cheap and he's a starter. He is listed as a starter. It's not like we're wishing and hoping and, yeah, there could be something if somebody gets hurt. No, he is opposite of Nico Collins and so, for that reason, look at what we saw from Tank Dell, look at what we saw from Stefan Diggs, look at what we saw from some of these other guys that were the receiver two next to Nico. They performed extremely well. Extremely well because they're opposite of such a beast of a receiver from Nico Collins. So for me, man, when you have the height of 6'4", your weight is floating around 210, 215. We talked about in multiple episodes. You've got the two towers right. We'll have Nico Collins and Jaden Higgins Guys to get him. When his ADP is 143, he's receiver 53,. You are doing yourself a disservice if you're not taking a shot on this kid, because we could see him really explode towards the back half of the season.

Speaker 1:

Draft him everywhere, guys. Every it's cost you nothing and it could be gold. I love him too, man. All right, frank you, you talked a little bit. I don't want to get too much because we're running late on time here. But keenan allen, you mentioned being with the chargers. You think he's a great sleeper. At the end of the draft that you can grab that might be able to give you some value, maybe plug in for a good matchup week or something. All right, the last guy here, frank, let's end the podcast on a little controversy here. Okay, the frankly, fantasy football podcast is telling you right now that we think you can draft Kyle Pitts as a sleeper this year, guys, oh yeah, totally Can't believe I'm saying that, guys, but Kyle Pitts is a fucking sleeper. So, frankie, tell us why.

Speaker 2:

Guys, this is the year. We've said it last year, others have said it the year before. Mark the date, hang on real quick.

Speaker 1:

It is August 16th and Frankie just said that this is the year to draft Kyle Pitts. All right, tell us why. Lay it out, Convince me, Guys. Adp 131.

Speaker 2:

Think about where you've had to draft Kyle Pitts in the years before. It is not ADP 131. He's tight end 17. Tight end, 17. Guys, if you do not take a tight end, why the hell would you not decide to take it? You're going to be streaming anyways. Why wouldn't you go with a freak athlete who now has a brand new quarterback, new OC, right, all these different shifts that they've made, right? Kirk Cousins no longer there. You got Michael Penix Jr golfing with this.

Speaker 2:

Dude has outwardly come out and said he wants to build a good rapport with Pitts because of how athletic the kid is. So for me, man, I mean, we're talking this is put up or shut up for Kyle Pitts, right, because people are just going to look at him as a complete bust. For whatever reason, it hasn't worked out. I don't understand he's so good, but it just hasn't worked out. So for me, why the hell I'm gonna and here's why, guys, okay, I'm gonna pull this up tight end 17. Here's who's around him. You could look at Dallas Goddard, you could look at Hunter, henry Zacherts, kate Odden, dull, or, uh, jake Ferguson, isaiah, likely.

Speaker 2:

Why in the hell would you not take a shot on Kyle Pitts? You can drop him. He's not going to you are. There's no risk, zero risk, with only massive upside If he ends up even creeping in to a tight end one, or even tight end 13,. Look at the value there. I mean tight end 13, john, that's John whomith at at a one 17 ADP. And you, what did we just say? Kyle Pitts is one 31. That's a huge jump, that's a two round jump, right and so for me, man, I mean there's zero risk. Go, kyle Pitts, let's pit out together, let's be miserable, like let's just all be miserable for one more year. And you know what, if he does pop August 16th, this is the year for Kyle Pitts. It's pity city baby.

Speaker 1:

Let's take it. City, that's right. Two tickets, one way to pity city baby. Next with pits. Oh, that's going to be fun. On TikTok Frankie, all right, I love it. Hey, you, note to self, I am drafting kyle pitts if I'm punting on on tight end, if you're going to stream, anyway, that's what I'm taking guys his touchdowns. In the past four years he's gone one, two, three, four. I'm going to guess this year he's going to have five touchdowns. I'll take it. There you go, let's do it pick them higher or lower oh god, that is the show, guys.

Speaker 1:

What a way to end. I needed that energizing. Uh, laugh there about kyle pitts at the end here. Thank you for joining us, guys. I hope you got some info on that. A lot of camp news talking about the stacks and talking about some sleepers that we love. So thank you for joining us, guys. Don't forget to follow us. Tiktok, instagram I know we're going to get a bunch of shit. Argue with us on tiktok and instagram, guys, and youtube about kyle pitts being our sleeper, because actually he's one of my favorite sleepers. I'm gonna even take it a step further, so leave your comments, guys. I know that one's gonna get you fired up, so let's go. Frankie, what do we have coming up, man? It's almost time for season baby guys.

Speaker 2:

so be dropping, continuously dropping, mock drafts. Guys, we're getting a lot of great feedback. We have a couple that have already eclipsed 8,000 views in a week and a half. So, guys, they are popping off. Check them out, let us know. Do you like what we're doing? Do you not like what we're doing? And, guys, we keep getting fan shout-outs. We are going to dropping multiples from fan requests. We just had another few, john. Hey, can you pick from pick two in a 12-team league? Damn right, we can. So we're going to be having those coming out every week up until Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 2:

And in addition, guys, we're going to be breaking down backfields. Right, we haven't seen a lot of that. So in the next few episodes, johnny and I are really going to dive into what's going on with some of these backfields, really going to dive into what's going on with some of these backfields. Who do we pick? Where does it make sense? Dallas is a little bit convoluted. What's going on with some of these other guys with the like, the commander's backfields, and so on and so forth. A lot of interesting things coming your way, getting you ready for the best weekend of your life.

Speaker 1:

Draft season. That's right, guys. And like subscribe, hit the the notification bell. It's going to tell you when these mock drafts and when our episodes come out. I'm ready, I'm so excited. I, I can smell, you smell that? Oh, it smells like fantasy football, baby. May the fantasy gods smile upon you. Bye.