Walking Through Pain and the Storms of Life like a Buffalo: Shamans Cave

A few years ago, Sandra read an interesting post on Facebook about how Buffalo walk into a storm to get through it versus trying to find away around the storm. This was a powerful lesson she learned as she tried it while walking through a blizzard and arrived home feeling empowered and revitalized.

She tired the same thing walking through pain instead of trying to find ways to suppress it. And there was a blessing and gift waiting for her in doing this.

Join Renee Baribeau and Sandra Ingerman and as Renee joins in on this conversation sharing her depth of wisdom that she learned doing the same thing.

Is it time for us to face our fears and pain and walk through to the other side where blessings, healing, and a rebirth are waiting for us? This is a powerful episode you really don’t want to miss!

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Transcript

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Renee Baribeau: Hello, everyone! Welcome to the Shaman's cave! I'm Rene Bearbo, the practical Shaman.

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Sandra Ingerman: Hi, everyone! I'm Sandra Ingramman, and welcome to the Shaman's Cave, and Rene and I have been talking for a long time

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Sandra Ingerman: before the show. We haven't been together for a while. We've both been unbelievably busy teaching, and out there in the world.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so we had this richest time of catching up.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, in my conversation with Renee, I started to talk about something really powerful, and as I was thinking about it, I said, Wow, Renee has so much life experience. I think that we can. I think we can bring a lot of brilliance into this.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so so

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Sandra Ingerman: a couple of years ago, just to introduce this topic a couple of years ago, I just saw this very quick thing on Facebook

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Sandra Ingerman: of a picture of buffalo walking face forward into a storm, and I absolutely know that we've shared this on the shaman's cave before.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I found myself walking in a blizzard

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Sandra Ingerman: right after I saw that post.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I made believe I was part of a buffalo path, the storm

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Sandra Ingerman: and I came home. I was alone on this walk, and I came home from the walk I felt so refreshed.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I felt a strength moving through me.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I have a disorder that is incredibly painful. It's a rare disorder, and it's known as one of the most painful disorders that there is.

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Sandra Ingerman: And when I 1st developed it I said to my doctor, I don't know how people live through this kind of pain, and he said to me, Well, Sandra, I don't give out painkillers, and I said, I'm not asking for painkillers.

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Sandra Ingerman: I can't take them. But I said, I'm just. I'm just holding the question of how do people live through this kind of pain?

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Sandra Ingerman: So anyway, that was 10 years ago, and I have taken an action in the last couple of weeks that puts me back into the original pain that I experienced.

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Sandra Ingerman: because what I realized is, I've been spending the download that I got this morning was that I've been spending 10 years

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Sandra Ingerman: trying to find roots around the pain, supplements, exercises, breathing all kinds of things.

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Sandra Ingerman: But when all I'm doing is trying to find roots around the pain.

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Sandra Ingerman: so I finally decided to try to walk through the pain like a buffalo, like a buffalo, walks through a storm, that the pain is just another storm in a person's life.

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Sandra Ingerman: and what I found is that when I started walking through the pain like I walked through the storm like a buffalo, instead of trying to find roots around it, you know. How do you get away from this?

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Sandra Ingerman: I ended up getting into the one of the clearest spaces I've ever I can't say in my life, but in 10 years I've come to the clearest space that I've been.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I started getting all these amazing spiritual downloads where in this pain

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Sandra Ingerman: I felt that I did an entire life review.

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Sandra Ingerman: and was able to look at my past behavior.

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Sandra Ingerman: and that by choosing to walk through the pain and not finding another route.

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Sandra Ingerman: and having this clarity and this life Review happening for me, that it threw me into another cycle of life, where the only thing I can say is, I feel like I've been reborn.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I'm so excited about where this walk is going to take me to. I am so excited about the blessings and the opportunities.

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Sandra Ingerman: But I had to choose to walk through the pain and not keep trying to find ways around it.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so we can all look at this, whether you're in physical pain right now, or whether you're dealing with the pain of where our world is going right now, how much are you trying to create paths around the pain

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Sandra Ingerman: because you don't want to experience the fullness of it

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Sandra Ingerman: which brings you like a snake when a snake sheds its skin. It's an incredibly painful process. It has to push its body through. It's not a it's not

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Sandra Ingerman: just dropping flakes of skin. It's a whole unbelievable, initiatory process.

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Sandra Ingerman: and you come out new and reborn afterwards.

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Sandra Ingerman: So the the topic that Rene and I started having a conversation about is, where can we get to in an incredible place of higher consciousness.

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Sandra Ingerman: If we stop looking at ways to avoid and suppress the pain from what we're experiencing in our own personal lives, and by watching what the world is going through today.

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Renee Baribeau: Hmm, okay.

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Renee Baribeau: So so many good nuggets in there.

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Renee Baribeau: When I was in my thirties, early thirties, I went to this church. I've gotten a lot of great wisdom over the years from like a sermon or a preacher, and I was there, and this preacher talked about that you had to dance with the bear.

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Renee Baribeau: and being that a bear has been my totem, I always kind of understood that that idea of that. There was no way around but through, and you know you pick up these little like. Think about it in your life, though the one the one sentence insights that you get. And so all through my life it's like, Oh, yeah, here I am. I'm going to have to dance with that bear again, and

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Renee Baribeau: I think one of my greatest teachings came from the time that I had the pinched nerve in my neck.

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Renee Baribeau: and it was a time, and and I have to admit this. I was not in a lot of integrity at that time. I I was newly learning skills.

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Renee Baribeau: and

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Renee Baribeau: that, you know, sometimes I think we one of the topics we were talking about is, people want to learn the techniques, but they don't want to master the art. And so I was learning the techniques of journeying and doing, you know, even even Sweat Lodge. I think at that time I was showing up putting the blankets on doing the thing, and yet I was living totally out of integrity.

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Renee Baribeau: I was pursuing somebody who was married. I was, I mean, just. I was not in alignment with my higher potential. And so when I got a pinched nerve in my neck it took me 3 years to heal it, and 3 years to realize that I was turning and only looking part way. I wasn't seeing the truth of who I was and how I was living, and when I finally did.

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Renee Baribeau: lo and behold! I healed that illness.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, yeah.

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Sandra Ingerman: it's it's really a powerful thing. I, mean, I went through a really, really, hard emotional state back in in the nineties.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I've shared this story where I journeyed to Isis. And I said to Isis, what's happening to me? And she said, Well, you're going through an initiation, and I said, Well, I don't think I'm going to live through it. And she said, if you thought you were going to live through it, it wouldn't be an initiation.

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Sandra Ingerman: And then, as I continued, with this initiation, my own, my own helping, healing spirit kept saying to me, the only way out is through. The only way out is through. And so that's a theme that's in all my books that came out of that initiation. And it's a theme that's in all my courses and all my newsletters, and we've talked about it here.

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Sandra Ingerman: So that was emotional pain.

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Sandra Ingerman: And now I'm dealing with a different level of physical pain, but the lessons are still the same.

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Sandra Ingerman: There's no difference in in the lessons. The only way out is through.

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Sandra Ingerman: and what I'm finding is I'm just holding the question. I just want to pose this question for all of us

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Sandra Ingerman: in the spiritual community who is feeling pain on so many levels of what you're watching and experiencing in this time that we're living in on the planet.

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Sandra Ingerman: And how much, how many roads are you trying to create that lead you away from the pain that you're experiencing right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: and what would happen to us as a collective, as a spiritual collective.

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Sandra Ingerman: if we were all willing to face the storm

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Sandra Ingerman: instead of trying to find roots around the storm.

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Sandra Ingerman: but face the storm and just walk, see where we end up.

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Renee Baribeau: You know I love this because it's like you're right. It's so, Nature informed, and and in the wind clan. What we do is we call this a wind bath.

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Renee Baribeau: and if and where I kind of got these ideas for some of these practices, like the wind bath, or to go into the headwind is from, you know, deer, and, as you said, buffalo deer are very aware of the subtle changes in the air, and from either being tracked or tracking. And so the thing is is you can use these same headwinds

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Renee Baribeau: to do your own self tracking to what you just said about like I'm going to be like a buffalo, and I'm going to fiercely walk through this storm. Well, that's tracking that's tracking yourself into into a situation that's uncomfortable.

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Renee Baribeau: That's a little bit scary, and that's gonna make a huge difference, for when you come through on the other side, and we've been taught like like these goods and bads always. There's pain is a bad thing, you know, being free from pain is a good thing. Well, both are Nature's experiences.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right.

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Renee Baribeau: You know the tree's not out there complaining in the windstorm, right

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Renee Baribeau: digging in its roots. It's getting a little firmer, you know. It's bending. It's shaping, you know where they're like. Oh, well, I'm in a lot of pain, and you know I shouldn't have to have this experience, and

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Renee Baribeau: I don't think I don't think that that's the human experience. Otherwise we would be bubbles of light, and we wouldn't have these human bodies that fail us and teach us, and and a lot of times we don't want to learn.

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Renee Baribeau: I've been watching somebody on Facebook sharing about some of their illnesses. 1st of all, I'm there like, well, why would you be sharing this on Facebook? Because then you get all of these people throwing their opinions at you

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Renee Baribeau: is like, not a not a thing that I want to put out there. And then, also.

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Renee Baribeau: you know, I'm gonna hike another 30 miles today. And I'm gonna hike. I'm thinking like.

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Renee Baribeau: Could could it be that your body's telling you to stop.

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Sandra Ingerman: You know, like, we're just not listening to the clues.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, it's really interesting what you're saying on that, because the disorder I have is called dystonia.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I have the most common form that I have the most common form from the past.

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Sandra Ingerman: the new form of dystonia, which is really fascinating. And it's becoming epidemic

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Sandra Ingerman: is runner's dystonia. And what's happening is all these people are running because we're trying to deal with the stress of life.

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Sandra Ingerman: And our brain is going. This is too much for me. So what runner's dystonia is? You're running, and all of a sudden your ankles collapse inward and you fall over. That's what runner's dystonia is is where your ankles refuse to keep running, so they collapse. It's your body's way of saying you're pushing me too hard stop.

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Sandra Ingerman: and if you don't stop I'm going to force you to collapse

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Sandra Ingerman: all the physical therapy centers that are making millions of dollars to try to get runners back out of.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's too.

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Sandra Ingerman: Oh, yeah, they're making millions of dollars.

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Sandra Ingerman: And these poor bodies are saying, would you just stop trying to run 30, 40 miles a day. This is not healthy.

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Renee Baribeau: Perfect.

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Sandra Ingerman: And people are making millions of dollars retraining people of how to get back out there again. How crazy is that.

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Renee Baribeau: It's so funny. I've always I read this Dr. Gundry. He's really popular now, and he's talking about what you shouldn't eat. But when I read his book originally it was the 1st time anyone really aligned, to my thinking. It's like.

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Renee Baribeau: you know, when we, when we were out in nature, and we had to run. It was usually to get away from the bear.

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Renee Baribeau: or the bison, or the buffalo that was chasing us like. Whoever thought it was like a good idea to go out and run 30 or 40 miles at a crack. And yet it's that same thing where you know runners or plane jumpers are all this like, you know, it's about the endorphins, and, you know, getting ourselves out of pain again. It's like, Oh, if I just run hard enough. I won't be depressed if I just go to the gym and exercise enough. I won't be this.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's like.

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Renee Baribeau: I don't know. I I personally like my wind walks. I go out. I take a an even paced walk into nature, and you know. Am I getting what I need for you know this perceived need?

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Renee Baribeau: I don't know. I never was one to buy the the runner story.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah. And what I'm seeing, what I'm seeing in my waking up in in this pain is

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Sandra Ingerman: why, why are we trying to run away from the pain that we're feeling right now, because

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Sandra Ingerman: the pain has so many lessons for us, no matter what level it's on, whether we're emotionally, mentally, physically, in pain. Right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: there's such teaching for us. There's so much that's asking us to go within and to look at and reflect.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I just I just got the biggest download. It was like a near death experience where.

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Sandra Ingerman: when I was walking through the biggest part of the pain this morning I saw my entire life right in front of me, and everything I've done, and why

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Sandra Ingerman: and how I might want to change that now.

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Sandra Ingerman: and being reborn into a different person, and what all I did was make a choice

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Sandra Ingerman: not to try to stop the pain.

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Renee Baribeau: That's all I did.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I got the biggest gift

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Sandra Ingerman: that I could have gotten from doing that.

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Renee Baribeau: And it's you can't see her, but I can, because even though we're we're only recording this, I can see her face.

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Renee Baribeau: and I can see that shift. Because, you know, watching, we've been sitting here for 7 years. We've watched each other through a lot of different things.

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Renee Baribeau: One of the things is, is like to to really watch somebody move through that with such integrity and figure out like, what is this pain trying to teach me?

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Renee Baribeau: You know. What what do I need to do to be of service still in this world, and be in this kind of pain.

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Renee Baribeau: and a lot of us. We either hibernate with our pain or we mask our pain. But I'm here to tell you that both Sandra and I are been in integrity with our pain, and we we have walked, we have danced with that bear through it, and it's like peeling an onion.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's another new layer, and so I can't wait to see what comes for you from this.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah. And I'm hoping that we planted a seed for all of you to think about of.

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Sandra Ingerman: So many people are triggered about what's happening in the world today. How are you suppressing, really going in and experiencing how uncomfortable you're feeling with what's happening

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Sandra Ingerman: and being able to walk with that, and then through that into another place.

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Sandra Ingerman: Just just hold that thought just.

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Sandra Ingerman: Thought that possibility.

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Sandra Ingerman: I just hold the possibility.

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Renee Baribeau: I love that, and you know you can join our buffaloes walking through the storm, clan over at the Shaman's Cave and over at Youtube, you can follow us. And it seems like a lot of people have moved from the Youtube to listening to us at your favorite podcast. Place. But we're on all of them. So stay with us and and keep sharing in the shaman's cave about how you go through these experiences, because those are the posts we love to share.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, people are posting some of those right now, and there's some really beautiful posts that are coming up finally. So.

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Renee Baribeau: I've just denied enough posts. Me and Sylvia have denied enough posts that people are they're, like, well, they if I write that they're not gonna share it. So.

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Sandra Ingerman: You're rich.

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Renee Baribeau: Right from your heart, and we will share that. So we'll see you soon.

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Sandra Ingerman: Blessings.