The Dimension of Life We are Searching for is Here: Shamans Cave

There is a lot of talk going on about multi dimensions, multiverses, and beings from other planets. This discussion has been going for so many years now.

But isn’t it true that when you engage in your shamanic practices and ceremonies that you have already stepped into a different dimension but might not know it. For you are not in the same consciousness as the denser collective.

Join Renee Baribeau and Sandra Ingerman  as they discuss that you don’t have to be transported somewhere to create a good life. For you already stepped into a new consciousness with your spiritual work. The real question is how to sculpt your new life in the dimension you already moved to.

Renee and Sandra discuss this interesting topic at length and what it means to create the life you want to live by stepping into your own sovereignty.

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Transcript

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Sandra Ingerman: Hi, everyone! I'm Sandra Ingerman, and welcome to the shaman's cave.

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Renee Baribeau: In Amrene Bearbo, the practical shaman, and welcome to the Shaman's cave.

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Renee Baribeau: Today I'll introduce this one. It's a great topic

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Renee Baribeau: beam me up, Scotty, beam me up.

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Renee Baribeau: So we wanted to talk about our dimensional living and being in this dimension and of this dimension, but knowing that you've already moved to a place where you can create from a different reality. Does that sum it up.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, absolutely. So, so for myself to try and give a sense of this

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Sandra Ingerman: is, there's a lot of online courses going on right now, and a lot of books being written about multiple dimensions of reality and the multiverse.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I started exploring that 40 years ago, when I 1st moved to New Mexico and went to my 1st Anasazi ruins.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I walked in, and I still heard the children singing, and I still smelled the food cooking, and the Anasazi who lived in the 4 corners around the year 800.

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Sandra Ingerman: I'm not real good. With these things. They all disappeared, and scientists believe they all disappeared during dinner.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I've been fascinated with this whole concept of how we can shift into a different consciousness

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Sandra Ingerman: and live our lives in a good, healthy, and harmonious way.

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Sandra Ingerman: and so I think for me in since the

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Sandra Ingerman: Since I saw this on Azazi ruins.

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Sandra Ingerman: I think for me, I really did get focused on actually, physically moving into a different multiple reality which

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Sandra Ingerman: the belief out there is. There are so many different multiple realities right now. And it's true we have people who are dealing with the fear of deportation. That's a whole nother reality. I don't live in that reality, my grandparents did. They had to flee for their lives, and it was a different experience for them.

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Sandra Ingerman: There's all kinds of things going on in New Mexico and in the world that I just don't know. It's not part of my world.

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Sandra Ingerman: And yet I have this incredible connection with the spirits, and they share so much about living a life of harmony and a life of love and light.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so what I have shared with Rene is that all of us who are on a spiritual path. We actually already stepped into a different reality than collective consciousness isn't right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: but we're still back in the collective consciousness, and how we're living our lives.

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Sandra Ingerman: And is there a way without seeing ourselves living this earth? Because all these dimensions of reality going on right now we're still on the earth.

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Sandra Ingerman: They're just separate in consciousness. They're just separate in consciousness. That's it.

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Sandra Ingerman: How do we step into a new consciousness, since we already

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Sandra Ingerman: did shift into a different reality, because we know that what's true is the spirits, the divine unity, oneness, unconditional love.

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Sandra Ingerman: and that we are nature and not separate from it. So we're already living in a different reality. But how do we become the sculptors of it?

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Sandra Ingerman: So that we're now bringing the beauty into it with us. And that's our job.

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Renee Baribeau: I for me? It's always like the checklist of How's my life looking today?

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Renee Baribeau: I mean, it's as simple as I've been really grumpy this week, which is unusual.

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Renee Baribeau: But I was really tired.

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Renee Baribeau: and so, like somebody said, Oh, come over for a party. It's a birthday. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's it's a birthday, and I'll come over tomorrow when I'm not so tired. I mean, it's

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Renee Baribeau: we want to make it

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Renee Baribeau: very complicated. But sometimes it's really very simple. A few years ago I was standing in the bank, and I realized I was in this line, but I realized that I was in a different line than everybody else in the bank.

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Renee Baribeau: And it was like this really cog cognitive awareness that even if we were going to be living in separate realities, we were sharing space. And so how do I share space in the line?

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Renee Baribeau: I wait my turn, and I'm polite, and I do all of those things, and then I get to go home to the reality that I'm living in.

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Renee Baribeau: But one of my my bugaboos

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Renee Baribeau: has been where people would prefer to be living outside of their bodies, and in some other separate space

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Renee Baribeau: like. Let that beam me up, Charlie, you know, beam me up, Scotty thing. It's like.

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Renee Baribeau: I think a lot of the work that I tend to do in my groups and stuff is to get people back into their bodies

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Renee Baribeau: and figure out which reality you're living in from there.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely. And so I believe that that's a whole new roadmap that we have to create in our lives is Number one. We have to wake up to the fact that we are not living in the same dimension of the rest of the collective. That's number one.

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Sandra Ingerman: And instead of like, okay, there's going to be a magic bullet where this being is going to come to me, or I'm going to be beamed up, or something like that. Instead of that, instead of realizing Whoa, I woke up.

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Sandra Ingerman: A different being did not wake me up.

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Sandra Ingerman: I woke up

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Sandra Ingerman: so I have a power inside of me that experiences truth in a different way than than the collective. I didn't have to be told that

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Sandra Ingerman: that is incorporated in my knowledge in all the shamanic work that I've done in waking up and in shifting consciousness.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so it's more about exactly what you said, Rene. It's it's we have to take steps. So I think in just saying this, it's like

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Sandra Ingerman: people will immediately go. Well. How do I jump through all the steps and get to the good place

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Sandra Ingerman: and the bottom line. It's a hike through a forest, and there's no jumping. There's walking through the forest, and it's walking on a new path. It's choosing a new path.

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Sandra Ingerman: So you're actually choosing a different path away from where the collective is going with your spiritual practices and your consciousness, and staying present and grounded in your body. And where does that lead you to?

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Sandra Ingerman: Just imagine.

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Renee Baribeau: You know that that just helped me make sense of what I told you earlier when we were having our Pre. Pre. Hit the record button conversation about that

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Renee Baribeau: I had decided I had decided I was tired of being silenced and social media, and that

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Renee Baribeau: although I don't want to necessarily express my political views. I want to express my integrity views, and so like, what are my values living in this realm that I'm living in that are of a good person.

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Renee Baribeau: and

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Renee Baribeau: a few a month or so ago there was this man who, you know, was calling other people stupid and ignorant, and

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Renee Baribeau: bragging about how he just got back from Mount Shasta.

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Sandra Ingerman: Okay.

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Renee Baribeau: And I couldn't help myself. But write. Really, this is what the mountain told you.

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Renee Baribeau: This amount told you to call other people stupid and ignorant.

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Renee Baribeau: Wow! That must be a different mountain than that's talking to me, because my mountain tells me that I can find something in common with each and every person who's sharing space under these trees and this air

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Renee Baribeau: and that. I needed to do that. And I think that that what we're talking about for me is about like. When I wake up to my humanity, then I have to live by certain principles.

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Renee Baribeau: and that makes all of those other things out there. Noise.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right?

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Sandra Ingerman: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot a lot of noise right now, and that's keeping you stuck in a particular dimension.

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Sandra Ingerman: All of us stuck in a particular dimension. So what if we step outside of the noise and look at the practices that we've done

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Sandra Ingerman: so. I want to give you an example. It's going to trigger you.

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Renee Baribeau: That's good.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's triggered me.

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Sandra Ingerman: So here we go.

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Sandra Ingerman: So so there's this world of dystonia. It's a dimension

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Sandra Ingerman: I can choose to be in it or not in it right now I'm in it, and I'm getting a lot of lessons from it.

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Sandra Ingerman: They've been studying this brain disorder since the 17 hundreds, and they still don't know where it is or what it is

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Sandra Ingerman: since the 17 hundreds.

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Sandra Ingerman: If you go on, if you, I've worked with alternative experts. There are 2 on the planet.

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Sandra Ingerman: And if you look at what is the group of people who had the best success rate healing from dystonia.

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Sandra Ingerman: it's born again. Christians.

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Renee Baribeau: Hmm.

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Sandra Ingerman: They have the best success rate.

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Sandra Ingerman: If you look at it, their connection is unbreakable, so their belief of God is so strong.

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Sandra Ingerman: their connection is unbreakable, it's completely unbreakable.

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Sandra Ingerman: So with that unbreakable connection, they were able to heal.

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Renee Baribeau: Because.

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Sandra Ingerman: Believed in the power of God so strongly a thousand percent. If you, if you've met true born agains.

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Sandra Ingerman: it's a thousand percent belief.

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Sandra Ingerman: And they healed, and and that's the population that heals the easiest and the fastest.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I'm bringing this up because I keep talking on the shaman's cave I keep writing. I keep teaching

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Sandra Ingerman: that we're letting ourselves get distracted, and that shamans had an unbreakable connection with their helping spirits. 24 HA day.

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Sandra Ingerman: not just. I'm going to journey 10 min today. Their connection to their spirits was 24, 7.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so if we could create again that kind of 24, 7, connection.

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Sandra Ingerman: and stop allowing us to be so distracted by the noise that you're talking about Rene.

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Sandra Ingerman: Where would that take us? How far could we walk together into a different place.

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Renee Baribeau: When you just said this about that. This has been being studied since the 17 hundreds, it immediately triggered something in the teachings that I do that. It was about that time when we became humans doing instead of humans being.

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Renee Baribeau: And so that totally relates to this idea of those who didn't lose that connection, whereas the rest of us became into this cycle of work work, work, work, work.

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Renee Baribeau: plateau, plateau, plateau, then decline, because, instead of just being in nature being with our our

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Renee Baribeau: farm fields, we became, you know.

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Renee Baribeau: taxed to the cogwheels of the factories.

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Renee Baribeau: I don't know if there's a relationship, but when you started to talk about the length of time on there like well, that is just too curious.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, no, I. And I keep sharing that over and over and over again is, and we're not switching topics here. It's all part of the same topic. Of what reality are you living in right now?

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Sandra Ingerman: I have been through every nervous system program because the brain disorder I have is a nervous system issue. I've been through every brain disorder program nervous system program that there is. I've studied. I'm a trauma therapist myself. And so I've taken so many ceus with trauma therapists.

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Sandra Ingerman: and there's just so much that I thought that was the end of my path, that that was the end. I did all these things, and that was the end.

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Sandra Ingerman: But what I realized is that was just a territory for me to walk through, to start getting me into the dimension of life that I wanted to start creating for myself.

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Renee Baribeau: Sure.

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Sandra Ingerman: Wasn't the end, and I mistakenly thought it was the end. But it was just another doorway

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Sandra Ingerman: to give me more wisdom about. Okay. I've shifted into a new consciousness. And now, how do I design my life in a different way to live

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Sandra Ingerman: in the dimension of reality that I want to be living in right now. And so we find that we find these stepping stones that take us into a different dimension, into another consciousness.

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Sandra Ingerman: But a lot of us feel that that was supposed to bring us there.

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Renee Baribeau: That's.

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Sandra Ingerman: Supposed to bring us there. It was just one of the bridges.

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Renee Baribeau: Right. And if we go back to before that time when we really understood that the cycles of nature, you know, were a cycle that had a place where there was a little jumping off place that that I look at as this little gap time

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Renee Baribeau: and the gap time is where we start to rebuild for the next cycle as well. And so if we, if we could start to maybe look at these dimensions, we want to be in and add our little gaps into how do we get there?

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Renee Baribeau: But realizing for me? And this is the part that makes me the practical shaman, is that

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Renee Baribeau: we chose to be here. Now in these bodies

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Renee Baribeau: we wanted an embodied experience, and

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Renee Baribeau: that means our bodies break down, our bodies wear out. We have to treat our bodies with some kind of respect. You would you would not leave your you, treat our, we treat our animals, our cats, and our dogs better than we treat our own bodies. You know we treat our plants better than we treat our own bodies, but we're all part of the cycle, and and it really is key to being able to jump dimensions is to have the best vehicle possible. To do that with.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I remember Isis telling me a really long time ago, before I had my disorder, I was always working so much. I was tired, and she said, She goes, Sandra, your spirit is dragging your body around instead of your body is carrying your spirit.

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Renee Baribeau: So smart.

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Sandra Ingerman: And that's what's happening to a lot of us right now. And so again, not to lose the thread the thread is taking us back to

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Sandra Ingerman: if we want to be in a different dimension of reality. Looking at the tiny, tiny steps of how we get there, instead of trying to do a bypass.

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Renee Baribeau: Right? Yeah, that's a lot of bypassing going on, and we don't do it. So if you're looking for the bypass teachers, it's not Sandra, and it's not me

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Renee Baribeau: because we dance with the bear. We, you know, go through the mud, and when we come out we're always a little bit lighter when we hose off from that mud. There's always hope and possibility.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, and there's always a renewed resilience.

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Sandra Ingerman: Renewed energy, a renewed life force.

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Sandra Ingerman: You feel more vibrant, you feel renewed.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so it's

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Sandra Ingerman: It's it's a beautiful thing to stop looking at being taken away to another place.

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Sandra Ingerman: but creating it because we're being given the opportunity to do that. If all of life is just energy and it's just illusion. And this is the last thing I'm going to say, just planting a seed. If all everything on this planet is actually energy, which is from a physics point of view.

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Sandra Ingerman: there is no form.

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Sandra Ingerman: So from an energetic point of view, in order to create any kind of play role

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Sandra Ingerman: belief that this is reality.

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Sandra Ingerman: You have to have an intention to put that into the energy to create form

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Sandra Ingerman: where actually form does not exist.

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Renee Baribeau: And and on that ending note, I'd like to say that at the beginning of our conversations today, I pulled a windwalker, wisdom oracle

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Renee Baribeau: because we were. We were going into some uncharted territories. And the wind that I got was, says Lana, the wind of sovereignty.

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Renee Baribeau: And it's about re-

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Renee Baribeau: that. Remember, even if you want to jump to a different dimension, you always have to request with reverence.

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Renee Baribeau: because it's the reverence that yields the power, and that was what you were saying about the born again. Christians. It's that reverence, that absolute reverence, that that, knowing that everything is possible through prayer, dedication, and hard work.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And to me sovereignty means claiming your home.

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Renee Baribeau: Hmm.

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Sandra Ingerman: That your body is your home. This is home.

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Renee Baribeau: It's your snail shell. But we have some other homes, too. We have the Shaman's cave over on Facebook, which has 50, some 1,000 followers. So that's kind of a home that you can come over and be part of and to follow us on Youtube and anywhere. You listen to your podcast you'll find us and share it with your friends. Because, you know, there's thousands and thousands of people out there who are waking up to these realities who don't know about us.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely. Yeah. And thank you for all the beautiful work that you're doing for listening and for really taking these seeds in and and

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Sandra Ingerman: letting what feels right grow inside of you, and and seeing what kind of garden blooms out of it, and letting go of the seeds that just don't feel that you want them in your inner garden. It's your sovereignty to create the garden that you want. Renee and I are just having a lot of fun talking about so many different landscapes that we can work with

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Sandra Ingerman: so blessing everyone.

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Renee Baribeau: Blessings.