Self Talk Can Heal or Destroy Our Inner and Outer World: Shamans Cave

During this powerful show Renee and Sandra explore how our imagination shapes our reality, reminding us that our inner self-talk influences how we perceive the world. And if perception creates reality, then we hold tremendous power to transform our inner consciousness—bringing healing on all levels.

Join us as Sandra Ingerman and  Renee Baribeau inspire you with tools about how to change your self talk so what the world reflects back to you is aligned with your heart rather than your ego. Shamanstv.com

Transcript

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Renee Baribeau: Hello, everyone! It's Rene Barbo! Welcome to the shaman's cave!

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Sandra Ingerman: Hi, everyone! I'm Sandra Ingerman, and welcome to the Shaman's Cave. And today we have an interesting topic. I'm in one of those places where I wake up every morning, and I just immediately start downloading information. I am writing so much. It's unbelievable, because.

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Sandra Ingerman: as we know, when those kinds of downloads come through. They don't stay. They're just passing through for a microsecond in the universe, and if you catch it you catch it. If you don't, somebody else catches. It keeps on going. That's how a lot of books get written.

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Sandra Ingerman: So so I have been trying to get back into the habit because I'm getting so many downloads, and I'm not writing them down, and I am not holding them in my consciousness they're gone. So the download I got yesterday was self-talk

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Sandra Ingerman: can heal or destroy our inner and outer world.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I thought, that is a very interesting topic for us to talk about in that what we're talking about when we're talking about self-talk is the judgments

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Sandra Ingerman: that come up for us, how we judge ourselves.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I wrote to somebody who I'm in communication with that. I'm finding that I'm judging myself a little bit more these days.

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Sandra Ingerman: and the world is judging me in return. Exactly. If I start. If I have a day of judging, it's like every email that comes my way is judging me for something. And so I'm really having to look at this. It's like, I don't want this. It's not a comfortable place to be.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so when we started to get into judging ourselves or not feeling loving towards ourselves. Renee and I have talked about this a lot in past episodes that one of the greatest wounds in the spiritual shamanic community is the lack of self love and the lack of self-worth.

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Sandra Ingerman: And if you don't love yourself, and if you don't feel you're worthy. Throughout the day all these judgments are going to come up naturally. You know, I made a mistake, and you make it a really big mistake. And it really wasn't a big thing.

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Sandra Ingerman: or you thought something, and all of a sudden that reflection comes back to you.

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Sandra Ingerman: So how do we shift our self-talk because it really affects our inner world? It affects our world outside, if we all start judging everything which we are doing now.

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Sandra Ingerman: look at, look at the crazy chaos on the planet right now, and chaos is part of nature. But this is not Nature's chaos. This is humans chaos.

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Sandra Ingerman: And it's coming from the words that we're using to ourselves and to each other.

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Renee Baribeau: Wow! Were you looking over my shoulder when I was writing this week?

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Renee Baribeau: So I open this chapter with Abracadabra?

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Renee Baribeau: I create as I speak and

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Renee Baribeau: and what I was, what it was I was thinking about, because I've gone back to a lot of my beginners mind stuff about when I started. And I think whenever we get out of sync or whenever I get out of sync, I go back to the basics and back in the basics.

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Renee Baribeau: When I started to hear how I spoke to myself.

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Renee Baribeau: 1st of all in my head, and then

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Renee Baribeau: where you can really get a good reflection of it is when you see how you're speaking to other people out loud. And you're there like, Wow! Did I just even say that? And

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Renee Baribeau: so at the time I really was, you know I felt like a worthless piece of, you know, dung in the street, and I would take every day

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Renee Baribeau: I would find a positive affirmation.

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Renee Baribeau: and I would write it out.

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Renee Baribeau: you know, 2530 times

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Renee Baribeau: I filled up. I must have had about 50 legal pads by the time I was feeling good enough about myself to stop this activity.

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Renee Baribeau: It went on and on for a long, long time.

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Sandra Ingerman: Hmm, wow! But that's that's an amazing tool that you found for yourself, because

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Sandra Ingerman: the problem with negative self-talk is that it's old. We're looping old messages. If you really, if you really investigate your negative self-taught, there's nothing new, there's nothing that you haven't been saying to yourself for years already.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so it really is about stopping the loop.

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Sandra Ingerman: Stopping the loop is stopping a habit

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Sandra Ingerman: and stopping a habit sometimes means that we need to do things over and over and over again multiple times

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Sandra Ingerman: to actually break that habit. And it's a little bit of a different topic. But it's the same thing of what you're talking about, Rene, of the very 1st soil. Retrieval that was performed on me was the very 1st student I ever taught

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Sandra Ingerman: soul retrieval, too, and when she blew in my soul. I felt like depression, my lifelong depression lift, and it did. I get depressed. But it's not the depression I lived with.

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Sandra Ingerman: and so I was happy. I was in bliss. I was looking at changing my life now that my soul part was back, and I could see the life I had created for myself, and I wasn't real happy with it. Now that I was back home, you know I was really embodied and saw my life.

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Sandra Ingerman: and so I started noticing that every 3 days I started getting depressed again, and so I journeyed to my spirit teacher in the upper world at the time, and she said, your depression has become a habit. You've been doing it your whole entire life.

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Sandra Ingerman: So she said, you have to break the habit. So she gave me something very positive to do every day. It was giving a gift to nature. And so, Renee, it was really similar to you in that. I had to do this every single day, and I did it every day for months, and then she said to me, The habit's been broken. It's done. You can stop now.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so when we get into that self-talk, it's old, and so we do have to find replacements for the habitual thinking.

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Renee Baribeau: Absolutely at the solstice celebration.

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Renee Baribeau: I had themed it about, you know, crossing this great divide with yourself

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Renee Baribeau: and and I had in the journey. People go to the one direction where they felt aligned.

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Renee Baribeau: and then to look to the other direction, where they did not feel aligned.

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Renee Baribeau: And it was so insightful because I turned to the North.

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Renee Baribeau: and I felt so aligned that I had had all the spiritual training that I was in my power, and and all of all of those things. And so then I turned to the other direction to where I wasn't feeling aligned with, you know, if we call it the collective or whatever I wasn't feeling aligned to, and it was like

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Renee Baribeau: my own fear.

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Renee Baribeau: it was my own, my own ideas of what this was all meaning, or how this was all looking, and how in the middle of these 2 things was really rough waters.

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Renee Baribeau: and

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Renee Baribeau: but it it stemmed back again to my own personal reflections about where I go like when I got laid off from work, the 1st thing I thought to myself was instead of Oh, my God, I'm writing a new book. How great I have all this time was!

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Renee Baribeau: Oh, you must not have done a very good job.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: You know, and this is like, no, I did a great job, and the door and the wind is blowing. One door closed and opening a new door.

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Renee Baribeau: Why would my thinking go to the worst possible place instead of

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Renee Baribeau: wow! This gives me all day to write this new book.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah. And you know, you're having amazing success with your oracle cards. And I find that oracle cards are a really good way to like. Just stop for a second and get a reality check, you know, like I love your cards, Renee. I really do. But I'm an old Tarot reader, and so I trust my Tarot deck.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so the other day I said, you know, I actually need a real reflection of where I'm at, because my mind is just going, berserk. I need a real reflection of where I'm at. And I picked these 3 cards, and they were so beautiful it gave me. This is the state you want to be in, not

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Sandra Ingerman: this. And so, even though I pulled those cards a few months ago, there's still things I want to bring into my life. So I'm not pulling new cards until I bring those in. But I needed that reflection, and and so people can pick a win card to get a reflection of. I know that my self-talk

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Sandra Ingerman: is not going in a good direction, but I'm not really sure the core issue. Where is this coming from? How old is this?

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Sandra Ingerman: And I find that if people pick one of your cards, your mind stops.

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Sandra Ingerman: And you're in the flow of the energy of the card and the image. And so it gives you a sense of this is where I'm at. But this is where I want to go.

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Renee Baribeau: And I think even let's talk about cards and how they're habits for us, like

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Renee Baribeau: you know that we we get. I worked with the soul cards by Deborah Kauf Chapin for 25 years, and that's what I did readings with people for. And so now I get this oracle deck right that has been revealed to me.

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Renee Baribeau: but it didn't come in fully formed to how to use it. It came in all right. Now we have this new tool, and you're going to work with it for the next 25 years, learning to understand it. And so last week in the Oracle Circle, I pulled cards right? And I got the same card twice on this this job situation changing.

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Renee Baribeau: And it was like

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Renee Baribeau: it was so accurate about okay, you you're at a a doorway, and you get to choose.

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Renee Baribeau: Are you going to go back into the same old patterns, the same old loop like you're talking about? Or do you want to recognize that need to work? To get your self worth is just a loop and step out of it and see all of these great things we're offering you over here the walk to the Cotswolds teaching in the Uk. Or do you want to just get crazy about?

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Renee Baribeau: Oh, I'm a worthless piece of shit. And I'm not gonna make any, you know, like

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Renee Baribeau: that. I didn't make the decision ultimately, because I do believe really, we make the decisions and set it up. And then the universe conspires with us.

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Sandra Ingerman: Exactly. Yes, exactly.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah. We did a show on connection a few weeks ago, and I hope people listen to it, because once you connect with these greater forces, you find that you have allies to help you get your passions manifested.

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Sandra Ingerman: You have these gigantic forces out there in nature, who listen to you, and then become allies and work with you as partners to make it so.

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Sandra Ingerman: But it's so important to get out of that negative thinking. And you know that a lot of people find that being in nature calms their mind. Down you start. You start really looking at the sky. If you can get I love to. I'm not driving right now, but Woods is driving, and so I love when we can take a drive

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Sandra Ingerman: where you're not seeing anything you're seeing over mountains. And so it gives you this gigantic perspective. And when you get more of an expanded perspective, you start to go. Wow! I'm making myself look so little in this gigantic universe.

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Sandra Ingerman: or writing affirmations every day, or pulling a card every day, but doing something something, because

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Sandra Ingerman: the force to have negative self-talk right now is so strong it's strong. How do we?

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Sandra Ingerman: How do we walk through that force? How do we dismember that force which is all illusion. It's just illusion, so it has to be dismembered.

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Renee Baribeau: What's working for me right now is the delete button.

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Renee Baribeau: I had found myself trapped in the opening emails and reading all of these things and reading all of these different viewpoints.

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Renee Baribeau: And now I'm there like delete delete delete delete delete.

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Renee Baribeau: I think I'm gonna go out and pick the flowers in the garden, and and am I less informed.

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Sandra Ingerman: No, not at all.

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Renee Baribeau: I mean, I don't really feel less informed, but I feel more at peace. And

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Renee Baribeau: because, like what we're saying is that the this is that loop, and and you have to catch yourself in the loop.

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Sandra Ingerman: That awareness is so key like oh.

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Renee Baribeau: Oh, I recognize that that's not me.

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Renee Baribeau: And sometimes just putting this small attention to it. One time, when I used to go into really bad spaces. I had a friend. Teach me this little exercise where she'd say.

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Renee Baribeau: Renee, go on your bed, lie down!

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Renee Baribeau: And asked the little Rene, what is she needs right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: Hmm.

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Renee Baribeau: Oh, I used to go in my bed and I'd look in them. They're like, all right. What do you need right now?

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Renee Baribeau: And sometimes the very mere fact of me putting attention to that. That was a really old wound, and she needed attention a little bit. Love right in that moment was so useful that it shifted in an instant.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, what I've been using. And it's really working successfully for me. And I've been sharing it on the shaman's cave is. Every time I get into these negative loops in my mind, I immediately go down to my heart and ask my heart what is my heart feeling, and my heart is never feeling what my mind is feeling.

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Sandra Ingerman: Heart is feeling heartbroken about what my mind is saying, and so I work with the feelings that are coming up from my heart.

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Sandra Ingerman: and that's been so helpful for me. I mean, it's been so. It's all about everything I'm teaching right now is about, how do we move forward out of the muck, where we are not just on a collective level, but an individual level. It's all about all my my work on walking through darkness and polishing the

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Sandra Ingerman: polishing the path of our soul. It was all about how to get through the darkness.

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Sandra Ingerman: and I did so much about how to be in the darkness and tools to keep moving forward in the darkness. But what I'm finding is in the times that we're living in. We have to keep moving forward. We just can't sit. We have to keep finding ways to move forward.

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Sandra Ingerman: and part of moving forward is breaking the habit of how our mind makes us contract into little beings that have no power, that have no force like the greater forces in the universe.

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Sandra Ingerman: And that's not helpful for us right now, because that makes us victims.

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Renee Baribeau: Absolutely I loved last night when when I turned north

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Renee Baribeau: and I stood there, and all of a sudden

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Renee Baribeau: the north wind just kicked right on up and blew this force into me that was so strong that it was like.

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Renee Baribeau: how could I ever not feel that power of nature

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Renee Baribeau: like in that moment, and that feeling, and in my heart, and in my whole and being. And so I invite all of you that are listening, that you might get called to go out and feel that force of nature, that force of the wind, come through you, and when you feel that power, you know, to release anything that isn't of that power for yourself

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Renee Baribeau: in that moment, and it may come back, but you can do it again.

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Sandra Ingerman: That's right. Yeah. What I'm doing is and people make fun of me because I do still post a bit on Facebook. But there's a river that woods and I like to go to, and the river that we go to is very small. So when I post about it on Facebook, people say, that's a river.

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Sandra Ingerman: What I'm doing every week is I'm going to the river and standing in the river for about 2025 min, and just allowing everything water is who's showing up for me right now as a healing force.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I'm just standing in the river and connecting and and singing my song, the Circle song. The river is flowing and growing, and I sing that song, and I just imagine

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Sandra Ingerman: everything just draining into light. You know I don't want to pollute the the river.

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Sandra Ingerman: and every time I do it I wake up the next day. I have no inflammation anywhere in my body, and I feel really good. And so.

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Sandra Ingerman: you know, nature is willing to work with us as a partner right now.

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Renee Baribeau: Yeah. So we'd love to hear your ideas. And on the shaman's cave of what nature elements and what techniques you're using to stop that loop looping, thinking for yourself, and because

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Renee Baribeau: our ideas are our ideas, and this is what works for us and might work for some of you. But I bet you some of you out there have some really great ideas, too.

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Sandra Ingerman: That's right, and

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Sandra Ingerman: it is. We are in another cycle of change. And so this is a really good time to reflect on how our self-taught can heal or destroy our inner and or outer world. And so, thanks for all the great work everybody's doing.

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Sandra Ingerman: and thanks for listening to us. We we really love you, and we're walking forward together.

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Renee Baribeau: Thank you.