Honoring Who You Are: Shamans Cave

One of the most talked about subjects today is how people across so many traditions and around the world are finding they put on a role and costume in life that would allow them to accepted by society and authority figures.

Today people are waking up the fact that they have not been living their authentic life and that they have people in their lives who are manipulative and judgmental who add to the energy of conform in order to be loved.

There is a mass movement today from people of all ages to stop the old behavior of conformity and truly live out your destiny so you add your unique energetic signature to our sacred web of life.

Sandra Ingerman and Renee Baribeau talk about how big this current movement is to live an authentic life. And this is a show you don’t want to miss! Shamanstv.com

Transcript

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Sandra Ingerman: Hi everyone, I'm Sandra Ingerman, and welcome to the Shaman's Cave.

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Renee Baribeau: And I'm Renee Barbel, the Practical Shaman, and we are really excited that you're here.

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Renee Baribeau: And… This topic is… a little mind-bending in some ways, and I'm gonna have Sandra explain it.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, so, in a lot of ways, it's mind-bending to a certain part of our culture, but it kind of looks like where the evolution of our next generations are marching towards.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, so even those of us who are elders are starting to write about the same thing.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, I was telling Renee today, this is already a topic that I've been talking to all my students about, because it's actually a topic that I'm teaching in my courses now.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, I read a thing in the New York Times today of the four best-selling, books on the New York Times.

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Sandra Ingerman: List is about honoring the truth of who you are.

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Sandra Ingerman: Telling people who don't reflect back to you your own authenticity that you've moved on, and you're sculpting a new life.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, people are… it's not just people are setting new boundaries. People are setting new hard

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Sandra Ingerman: boundaries. They're not permeable. They're hard. So, what that means to me is people are starting to find their own sovereignty.

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Sandra Ingerman: Which is beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, in one of the courses that I'm teaching.

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Sandra Ingerman: I'm teaching how, in all spiritual traditions, it's not just shamanism, it's every spiritual tradition believes that life here on Earth is simply an illusion.

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Sandra Ingerman: And you can use different metaphors. The metaphor that I like, but there's a million other metaphors you can use, is that due to our upbringing, how we had to… how… what we had to do to receive love.

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Sandra Ingerman: For my parents, our authority figures.

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Sandra Ingerman: We put on a roller costume that we thought people would acknowledge, would see us as normal, would see us as part of society.

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Sandra Ingerman: friends in our lives, we let them manipulate us, we let them do all kinds of things so that we had friends in our lives.

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Sandra Ingerman: And now what's happening, it's happening to thousands of people, not just America, it's all over the world. I'm reading about it everywhere.

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Sandra Ingerman: Is people are waking up to the fact that they have not been living their real life that they came in here for.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, for me, I've been teaching for over 20 years now. We all came in with an energetic signature. It's unique.

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Sandra Ingerman: That we get to add to the sacred web of life.

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Sandra Ingerman: Another metaphor I use that's being used constantly on social media now is that we all came in with a note.

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Sandra Ingerman: And now we're part of this gigantic life symphony, and the life symphony really depends on us singing that note, we came in here to sing at birth.

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Sandra Ingerman: But, we're not singing the note, we're not, putting our energetic signature into the sacred web of life.

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Sandra Ingerman: Because a lot of us have been trying to get love from other people, so we set aside our destined-born gifts.

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Sandra Ingerman: To fit into a culture that has rules of behavior. And now, people are waking up to those rules of behavior are false.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I compromised my life.

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Sandra Ingerman: I have this gift I came in here to express.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I want to express it, and there are old people in my life that just reflect the abuse of my past.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, I'm saying goodbye to those people, and I'm finding people who actually honor the truth of who I really am, instead of judging and projecting on me.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, I feel this is an enormous, beautiful step in the evolution of our culture right now, all around the world.

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Sandra Ingerman: Is that people are start… starting to remember their hidden gifts.

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Sandra Ingerman: their hidden destiny, and they're not willing to compromise anymore. They want to express who they are before they leave.

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Sandra Ingerman: And people are finding that they need to surround themselves with new friends, new communities, to reflect back the truth of who they are now, not reflect back their traumatic past of what they've been through.

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Sandra Ingerman: That's a long introduction, Renee, I'm sorry.

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Renee Baribeau: No, that's alright. I think that… This idea of…

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Renee Baribeau: You know, I'm writing a new book, so I've been really lopped back into when the Industrial Revolution came in and created

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Renee Baribeau: We moved from nature-based beings into machine-based doing, and this… and in order to make a machine work.

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Renee Baribeau: it needs a set of circumstances and a set of rules and a set of regulations in order to keep that call going in the wheel, and I believe that some of this is these ideas of how we had to behave as human beings in order to

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Renee Baribeau: Get to the factory every day and do the job we were supposed to do, which got us more and more disassociated, and…

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Renee Baribeau: Gave us a place where we gave up the control.

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Renee Baribeau: Like, we talked about in a recent one about the control of, like, going out and being with the plants in your yard as a form of, you know, getting back to your own rituals, but when this culture of us doing, doing, doing.

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Renee Baribeau: in order for us to get in line for our doing, we had to follow certain rules, and I think a lot of that had to do with putting our energy on things that were really out of our control.

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Renee Baribeau: Accepting people we didn't really like, you know, being subversive to the people who could control us.

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Renee Baribeau: And I think this is… might be the revolution that people are standing up to at this moment.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, it's really big. I've been, I was… I love seeing, those books being shown on the New York Times today, but it's something that I've been…

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Sandra Ingerman: teaching, and exploring ever since I was a teenager, because when I was a teenager, I started reading The Course in Miracles.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, of course, The Course in Miracles shows us how everything in life is an illusion, that there's actually nothing here.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, if life is an illusion, why are we compromising so much of ourselves?

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, the metaphor that really speaks to me, because I study a lot of the work of Neville Goddard.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, he quotes Blake a lot, and Shakespeare a lot, and so when I wrote Medicine for the Earth back in 2000, the whole metaphor of life is just a play, and we take on a role, and we take on a costume.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's a metaphor that really, really, really speaks to me.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, it's the biggest thing I'm teaching in my courses right now, is what's the old role and costume you put on to survive in life?

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Sandra Ingerman: And is it time to shed it, so that you're not surviving, but you're thriving.

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Sandra Ingerman: And you're actually living out your true destiny.

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Sandra Ingerman: And what I'm seeing, and what these books are writing about, is that…

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Sandra Ingerman: It's not just about making new choices and new decisions, it's actually saying goodbye to friends who have been in our lives for years and years and years.

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Sandra Ingerman: But keep judging our choices.

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Sandra Ingerman: Keep judging us on some particular level that mirrors back how we were judged by our parents and authority figures.

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Sandra Ingerman: And it's like, enough is enough. It's like…

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Sandra Ingerman: I woke up one day, and I realized I'm 72 years old.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I realized that I don't think I've had a day in my life where somebody wasn't yelling at me about something.

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Sandra Ingerman: And… that's quite the thing to wake up to, you know? So it's like…

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Sandra Ingerman: people are at the place, a lot of people in the spiritual community, and I love reading this, but of course, as we find our own way, and it's new.

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Sandra Ingerman: Sometimes everything comes out explosive when you try something new.

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Renee Baribeau: Absolutely.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, people are telling people to get out of my life.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so we might need to find gentler ways to say it. Right now, people are setting hard boundaries, and I think it's some of the healthiest behavior I think I've ever seen.

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Renee Baribeau: Hmm.

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Renee Baribeau: Maybe it started with some of,

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Renee Baribeau: this post-COVID conversation where people couldn't talk about politics. Maybe it's a new natural boundary-setting issue around families and politics. A few years ago,

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Renee Baribeau: I did something… I had a long 20-30 year friendship with somebody, and I did something that was displeasing to her, and she told me that her friends told her that she should,

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Renee Baribeau: I don't know, scrub me from her life, was her terms.

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Renee Baribeau: And I cried for a hard year about, like, how could this be where somebody I love so care and care about so deeply is scrubbing me from her life, and…

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Renee Baribeau: And yet, now it's about 2 years later, maybe a little longer.

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Renee Baribeau: And I don't know, maybe she… it was a gift for me as well, because I… I don't know if there's healing going on on her part, but there certainly has been a lot of healing that's gone on on my part, where I've gotten to look at myself, like, well, how…

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Renee Baribeau: am I as a friend? And, you know, was I not giving her the respect she thought she deserved? And all of these questions that have, you know, forced me to go deeper.

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Renee Baribeau: Which has been really, you know, really eye-opening. But somebody did something this week that's really given me a shift.

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Renee Baribeau: I got laid off a couple months ago, and one of the things is the, the unemployment people are training me to be an entrepreneur, and I thought, well, this is it really…

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Renee Baribeau: This is really an interesting thing, and I decided to… But my business?

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Renee Baribeau: under the microscope.

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Renee Baribeau: So, I applied for the mentor that I wanted, and they gave me the one that I was getting, and I'm like, what is this guy about? He does aerospace, what's he gonna know about my business?

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Sandra Ingerman: Right.

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Renee Baribeau: And we had a conversation the other day, and the first thing he said to me, and it's put me on a pause.

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Renee Baribeau: He said, Renee, What is your superpower?

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Renee Baribeau: And it kind of goes into what you're saying, this whole thing, like, does this really boil down to not all of the facades that I have out in the world, but what is… what is my superpower?

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Renee Baribeau: So, I did a meditation on that last night, and I'm not ready to share it publicly.

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Sandra Ingerman: Sure.

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Renee Baribeau: But I got the most surprising answer that really stopped me in my tracks.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I thought, like, wow!

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Renee Baribeau: all of these things that I do, are not who I am.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right. Yeah, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: I love it.

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Sandra Ingerman: And that's what people… and that's the beauty of what I'm seeing with so many of my students right now, is they're discovering their superpower.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, but they're saying how much has to fall away so that they can, now express their superpower. And I think it's, it's a beautiful thing to watch where, we're evolving to, as a world culture.

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Sandra Ingerman: Because as people find… I'm just using your words, their superpower, ISIS talks about it as stop contracting and expand, and be willing to look much bigger of who you… of who you are.

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Sandra Ingerman: That people are contracting too much inside of themselves, and not letting themselves express the truth of who they are.

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Sandra Ingerman: Think of how we can change the world if people actually stood up and found their sovereignty and who they are, and truly expressed it.

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Sandra Ingerman: Things would definitely change in our comu… at least first in our communities, and that's a very important start.

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Sandra Ingerman: Where people start really showing their gifts.

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Sandra Ingerman: And this is what I have to offer to support my community right now.

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Renee Baribeau: Absolutely. And… and mine is kind of a little reversed, because

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Renee Baribeau: My whole thing is, is I create… I create because I can.

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Renee Baribeau: Does that mean that every creation out there, just because I can do it, is mine to create, or is this kind of… this whole same thing, like, you know, like…

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Renee Baribeau: why? You know, like, why do… what's the point? Is… is there, like, releasing and, oh yeah, just because I'm a good cook, I don't have to be a chef, just because… So, it might be a honing process, too. Just because you can doesn't mean you have to, and really getting down to the essence of how you want to show up in this time, because

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Renee Baribeau: We talked about it in the last show where a lot of people have turned off the media, and turned off the news, and turned off the social media, and trust me, when you do that, there's still plenty to occupy your day.

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Sandra Ingerman: Oh, god, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: And more relevant stuff at that.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, I have too much to occupy my day. One thing, I just want to share one thing, because I think we've really covered this topic.

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Sandra Ingerman: But, there is a shadow side, and so I just want to let people know about this, because it's really important, for us.

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Sandra Ingerman: is that when you start going in, because I'm doing it, you know, Renee talked about doing it, I know a lot of people who are doing it right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: And recognizing the shadow side of yourself, and how you've been expressing in relationships, and how some things are your shadow of how you've been behaving.

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Sandra Ingerman: What can start to happen, and this is just a current that we have to actually fight against.

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Sandra Ingerman: The first thing that comes up is I'm a bad person. And that takes us so far down on the evolution level, it's like every positive thing that you've created in your life to evolve just evaporated.

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Sandra Ingerman: When now you say, oh, I'm reflecting on my behavior, and I'm an awful person, and I don't deserve anything good. That's the first thing that starts to happen for people when they start to reflect on.

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Sandra Ingerman: On the shadow, but the healthy thing to do is to say, okay, this has been part of my behavior, but now I know, and I can make a shift, because I love myself.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I'm a really good person, and I want to have a really good life.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I have to shift how I behave, but I have to do it from a place of self-love.

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Renee Baribeau: Because always we're going to get hit with our defensive self.

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Renee Baribeau: You know, that defensive self that wants to, you know, protect ourselves when we are uncomfortable.

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Renee Baribeau: And the other thing that I want to add to that is what I've noticed is that when we make a substantial change in our life.

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Renee Baribeau: there's always a counterwind. There's always gonna come in and give us a few opportunities to show ourselves that we've changed.

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Renee Baribeau: So, like, for me, like, I used to have really… like, after I'd get really exhausted in the catering, for example, I would have a couple of days where

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Renee Baribeau: I had a boss who used to tell me, today is the stay in your office day, Renee, because it would be really bad behavior. Oh, and so as I learned to manage… again, manage and control it, not change it.

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Renee Baribeau: I… because I think the managing and controlling it is part of the process of making a lasting change, you know, where we become aware of it, but we haven't really… it hasn't… the grace hasn't lifted it from our lives yet, so we get a couple of more opportunities to try it out.

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Renee Baribeau: Now, for me.

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Renee Baribeau: where I know that I'm always going to get in trouble is when I'm really overtired, or I'm hungry, or I think I'm lonely because something didn't happen. There's this word in AA called halt. Hungry, angry, lonely, and tired. Like, are prime examples of when we want to

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Renee Baribeau: We're trying out our new behavior, and the world is giving us a backlash on it.

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Renee Baribeau: Those are the times that we have to be extremely careful that we step back and neutralize a situation

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Renee Baribeau: And I think that's the point. If I can neutralize the situation so it's no longer pressing on the buttons, then I don't either have to respond, or I can respond in that new way.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: I may not do it perfectly, like you just said, and I'm not a bad person, I'm just learning a new way of doing it.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, yeah. You know, telling the truth to other people is not always that easy.

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Sandra Ingerman: And sometimes you have to sugarcoat it, because it's important to sugarcoat it, not because you're trying to people please, but because it's just appropriate. And sometimes, you have to just set a hard boundary.

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Sandra Ingerman: And all of us are being asked to do that right now. And how we do it, and how we feel about ourselves.

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Sandra Ingerman: Is part of that whole process of, are we doing it in a healthy way that's helping us to evolve

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Sandra Ingerman: Or are we taking ourselves down even further, by how we're doing it? So, it's just a lot… there's so much to reflect on right now, because there's so much opportunity to create goodness in our lives.

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Sandra Ingerman: But, to create that goodness, we're being asked to change on every single level. And so, there's just a lot to explore, not to get overwhelmed about.

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Sandra Ingerman: But see what seeds, we keep planting for you that seem like they're gonna take root and hold and grow into

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely beautiful, nature beings.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, and find what works for you, too. And,

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Sandra Ingerman: I just… I think, for me, I feel that my greatest role right now is to keep people moving forward and not going down, and a lot of that has to do with how we feel about ourselves.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, I'm really concerned more not how much we're affecting other people, because it is a time to set boundaries.

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Sandra Ingerman: But setting boundaries while you really still love yourself at the same time.

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Renee Baribeau: That's really great.

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Renee Baribeau: One last final tip for me is when I'm feeling really self-righteous about my action and my email, I have this friend that I send things to, say.

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Renee Baribeau: How does this sound?

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Sandra Ingerman: Right. A hundred times, they'll say, yeah, I, I don't think I was…

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Renee Baribeau: It's sitting there.

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Renee Baribeau: But, where you said you're, you know, you're helping people move forward, what I think that I've been doing most and best lately is that

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Renee Baribeau: I really am trying, in my small island circle.

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Renee Baribeau: to empower the people who I meet on a daily basis, whether it's at the, you know, the Habitat for Humanity, or where I can make a difference at the grocery store, or in the farm stand, but really to empower people from a place of

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Renee Baribeau: Presence.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right. Yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: And that's working for me, and it's new for me, too, to really…

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Renee Baribeau: Evaluate it and do it from a very conscious place.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: That's really beautiful. And so…

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Sandra Ingerman: We all have to find what we're being asked to do right now to be in service.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, and most importantly, you have to start with how you can be in service to yourself.

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Sandra Ingerman: And then, once you really get grounded and centered in that, then it's time to start to look at how you can share your gifts in the world.

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Renee Baribeau: Well, I think this is a really great topic, and I think it gives people a lot of room to think about.

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Renee Baribeau: how it's showing up for them in your life. And one final note for me is that… and it may be holding space for somebody else who's doing this. It just reminded me, like, recently I've been a space holder for somebody who's going through, you know, a lot of… a lot of deep work, and to put myself

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Renee Baribeau: that I can hold space for somebody else as they go through their deep work is really important as well.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, on that…

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Renee Baribeau: I'm good.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, that's great.

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Sandra Ingerman: Well, everybody, I think we've given you, a lot of seeds, and you have to sift through the seeds to see which ones are really speaking to you.

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Sandra Ingerman: But, this is a really, a time of such opportunity to make some really beautiful changes as you realize how short life is, and that you really want to live your life to the fullest right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, we send you lots of blessings, and we'll see you next time.

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Renee Baribeau: Yes, and don't forget to follow us over at Shaman's TV, over at The Shaman's Cave, and comment! You know, we'd like to hear about how your feedback is on our show, and there's 60,000 of you in our group, and we hope that some of you are listening.

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Sandra Ingerman: We get… we do get a few comments, and, I always thank people. We're also getting some questions, and if it's a good shamanic question, I am answering. At least a lot of people are answering, but I'm putting in my two cents, too.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, if there's a show that you would really love to see us, do a topic.

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Sandra Ingerman: post it on the Shaman's Cave. Post some topics for us that you would like to, have Renee and I talk about. That would be really great. So, sending love and blessings, everyone.