A Time for Deep Cleaning: Shamans Cave

In the Northern Hemisphere we just welcomed in fall. And those of you welcoming in spring this show has some deep seeds for you too. If you follow what the spiritual collective is moving towards you can see a new evolved consciousness starting to emerge. But this requires some deep cleaning in your home, in your inner world, and in your life.

Join Renee Baribeau and Sandra Ingerman  for this inspirational show of how deep we are being asked to work today for ourselves and others. And all that needs to be cleaned up and out to move into a new way of living as so many are doing now in the most positive way.

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Transcript

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Sandra Ingerman: Hi everyone, I'm Sandra Ingerman, and welcome to the Shaman's Cave.

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Renee Baribeau: And I'm Renee Barrevo, the Practical Shaman, and we're excited to be here. And I'll tell us a little bit about this topic, because both Sandra and I understand this. It's…

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Renee Baribeau: Every time it comes to be fall, I always find myself doing a deep clean.

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Renee Baribeau: And sometimes it's a real deep clean of the house, sometimes it's a real deep clean of the yard, because maybe that's because my mother used to have us break up all the leaves, bag them, and then we got a celebration dinner.

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Renee Baribeau: And this year, I found myself doing a real deep clean, deep dive clean of a very, very old pattern that probably started pre-verbal.

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Sandra Ingerman: Well… That's pretty big, yeah.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, so, for me, and a lot of you who are listening to the show are moving into spring, so…

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Renee Baribeau: Oh, yeah, that's true.

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Sandra Ingerman: So we want to acknowledge that. But listen to what we have to say about deep cleaning in fall, because you can also see… everybody knows in spring you have to do a cleanup, too. So…

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Sandra Ingerman: I've actually been doing a deep cleaning on my life, because I kind of feel I'm coming to the closure.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I've been doing this for a while now. I mean, if you could see how much we're hauling to charities right now, it is beyond your wildest imagination.

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Sandra Ingerman: But that's actually been going on for me for a year, where my soul's been calling for that.

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Sandra Ingerman: But, my God, when the full moon happened, number one, I had the most transcendent experience of my entire life on that full moon.

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Sandra Ingerman: that spirit just dropped on me, and I'm still trying to integrate it, and we'll probably talk about it with Renee on our show one day.

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Sandra Ingerman: But as soon as that full moon and we started moving into the fall equinox, I felt like I needed to do a deep cleaning on everything in my life.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, like Renee, I'm looking at old, unhealthy patterns.

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Sandra Ingerman: But my old unhealthy patterns are what's calling me to not only get rid of things in my house, which I'm still doing, we just did a major haul to a charity the other day. Again, I keep on thinking there's nothing.

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Sandra Ingerman: left, but, but I'm doing a deep cleaning on, who I support,

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Sandra Ingerman: out there in the world doing, practicing shamanism and teaching shamanism. As everybody knows, I have this unbelievably successful website.

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Sandra Ingerman: Where people are going to find out how to get really deep cleaning, deep healings, and, really, authentic workshops.

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Sandra Ingerman: on shamanism, and I feel that even though we are doing such brilliant work, and we really love, people on the planet so much.

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Sandra Ingerman: With the issues, especially nervous system issues that are going on today, this is requiring the deepest work of any shamanic practitioner and teacher right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, for the public, I felt I have to also do a deep cleaning on my website. Who can do the deepest work for the public right now?

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Sandra Ingerman: And who can't, for a variety of reasons. We all have reasons why we can't be out there doing the deepest work right now. I don't know anybody who's not being challenged right now, I really don't.

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Sandra Ingerman: But for me, how do we create clean fields?

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Sandra Ingerman: How do we create clean fields of energy so that during the fall or spring, we can, let go, and we can keep letting go of the layers and the layers, like, Renee, you just let go of something pre-verbal.

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Sandra Ingerman: you didn't just let go of something pre-verbal. You've been working up to that. You've been doing deep cleaning that led you to be able to do that.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, it really is the time of sweeping out the old and calling in the new, and if you look at the New York Times, and if you look at Facebook, and what everybody's talking about in the equinox right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: Every post on my friend's list

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Sandra Ingerman: It's about letting go of people, letting go of work, letting go of situations, letting go of material goods, doing deep cleaning on their life, so that they're living their authentic self.

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Renee Baribeau: Yes, I think that that is, like, really, really important.

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Renee Baribeau: I noticed that recently on Facebook that

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Renee Baribeau: you know, I'm a person who holds a lot of space for a lot of different viewpoints, but I noticed lately that some viewpoints I've started to

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Renee Baribeau: unfriend.

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Renee Baribeau: not… Just, it's cause, like, really…

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Renee Baribeau: at one point, it was like, oh, collect 5,000. Well, you know what? I don't need $5,000.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: for what? If you really want to follow me, go over to the Practical Shaman, or come over to the Shaman's Cave, and follow me there. But how many friends do we really have that we can really have a conversation with? And so, when people are going on about things that are so misaligned to my thinking, it's like.

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Renee Baribeau: Yeah, I don't need this on my wall anymore.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I get that.

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Renee Baribeau: I'm… I'm one who doesn't tend to gather dust. As you might guess, maybe that's why I'm so windy, but…

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Renee Baribeau: If it's in the closet, and I haven't worn it, if it's in a storage unit, or a storage closet, and I haven't used it.

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Renee Baribeau: I don't believe in storage containers, except for one time when I moved and I needed one. It goes.

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Renee Baribeau: it just goes. I just… maybe this is a way that's a good thing or not, but I just don't tend to get attached to things too much.

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Sandra Ingerman: And…

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Renee Baribeau: But I have friends who do, and so for me, a lot of the time, it is not deep diving and wanting to do their housekeeping for them.

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Renee Baribeau: And so, I think that…

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Renee Baribeau: that this idea of, cleaning out people's situations, and how I just found out that something has been pre-verbal, and you said, yeah, you've been getting ready to do this?

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Renee Baribeau: Well, I realized I've been getting ready for a long, long time to do this. You know, something started 3 years ago that I didn't recognize as this. Then something about a week ago.

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Renee Baribeau: came in so close, I let somebody stay in my downstairs space, and it brought up

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Renee Baribeau: this unhealed wound in me, and I… and I'm… they're like, this isn't working for me, you know, you have to go, and I probably wasn't as friendly about the whole thing as possible, but afterwards, I was tormented.

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Renee Baribeau: And I have this really good friend who's a therapist, and she said, you know her name.

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Renee Baribeau: If this is hanging with you for a couple of days.

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Renee Baribeau: or a few days afterwards, you might need to look a little deeper under your covers about what this issue's bringing up for you. And so I did, and it was, like, really surprising that all of a sudden I tracked something back to seventh grade.

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Renee Baribeau: And tracked something back to 5th grade. I haven't quite gotten to the pre-verbal part of it.

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Renee Baribeau: But I… I… I know that when I'm walking the Cotswolds, or when I'm, you know, somewhere along, whether it's the fall… the, the solstice fire ceremony.

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Renee Baribeau: The next piece will be revealed when I'm ready to handle it.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, I'm… I'm working… Sorry.

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Sandra Ingerman: I don't know what happened to my throat, but… I'm working with a, a sound healer right now, and

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Sandra Ingerman: He made a unique track for me.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, it's really interesting to listen to this track, what's happening for me.

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Sandra Ingerman: in that…

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Sandra Ingerman: I imagined in listening to this track, I would just move into a place of inspiration and healing, and, you know, it was just gonna be beautiful.

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Sandra Ingerman: And that did happen, the first time I listened to the track. It was unbelievable. It's what created, besides the full moon.

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Sandra Ingerman: my transcendent experience.

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Sandra Ingerman: But now what it's done is it's dismembered all of me except for my mind.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I have to tell you, when you are just left listening to your mind, you realize you really need to do a deep cleaning. When you just listen to your mind running over and over again like an old robot from a science fiction movie.

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Sandra Ingerman: With the springs coming out of their head, you know?

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Sandra Ingerman: images, you know. I'm telling you, if you… if you do a dismemberment, and just ask to let your mind stay after the dismemberment.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's a big surprise of what you're holding, what you're really holding.

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Sandra Ingerman: And what deep cleaning really needs to be done. So, you know, it's really important for all of us, I think, to go into our hearts

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Sandra Ingerman: And to listen to our hearts, because our hearts have some really hard messages for us right now. People in our lives who we've loved, who we've cared for.

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Sandra Ingerman: But our path changed so significantly, we have to say goodbye. There's no way to keep walking together. The path changed too deeply.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I'm excited because, what I'm seeing…

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Sandra Ingerman: In the spiritual community right now is so much encouragement from others to do a deep cleaning on your life, so we're getting a lot of support from the spiritual community.

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Sandra Ingerman: And then how people's consciousness is raising after they do these deep clean… these deep cleanings. It's unbelievable what people are being shown. Once they get rid of… out of their life.

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Sandra Ingerman: What's pure illusion and taking you away from your true, authentic self?

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Renee Baribeau: I think that that's true, that a few years ago, when this pattern first started coming up, and somebody

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Renee Baribeau: Scrubbed me out of their life, is what they called it.

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Renee Baribeau: And, I mean, I was so hurt for so long, like, thinking, this is somebody I've known for 30 years.

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Renee Baribeau: And I mean, I went through all of the emotionals around it, and I'd cry, and holidays would come, and I'd cry, and… and it took me a long, long time, and… and then when I finally got neutral.

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Renee Baribeau: about it, they're like, okay, are we gonna… are we ever gonna reconnect or not?

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Renee Baribeau: And… And I realized in that place of my neutrality is, like.

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Renee Baribeau: Well, I don't know what work they've been doing, Or, if this fissure

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Renee Baribeau: had them… required them to go a little deeper in their life to figure out, like, you know, what caused it, that I wasn't all wrong, or they weren't all right, or, you know, vice versa.

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Renee Baribeau: And… And I… and so I stay in a place, like in a standard car of neutral, thinking…

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Renee Baribeau: Not negative or not positive.

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Renee Baribeau: but just being neutral. And I think that that's in cleaning a house, like, when you get done washing all the cupboards, yeah, they feel really good, but I don't think you get so emotionally charged, like, oh my god, this is the best-looking cupboard I've ever seen.

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Renee Baribeau: It's like, But the dishes are where they belong.

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Sandra Ingerman: Got it.

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Renee Baribeau: And so, for me, I think that that's what I've come to, and that… but to see it come back up and say, oh, this pattern that happened 3 years ago just showed up again in a new way, then… then I have to go deeper with myself still.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right, yeah.

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Sandra Ingerman: One of the things that reminds me of, of course it's fresh for me, because I just did,

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Sandra Ingerman: a teaching training session on teaching soul retrieval, so… But one of the things that I teach, and this is pretty amazing to watch some of the effects that happen.

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Sandra Ingerman: is I teach people how to journey to find out

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Sandra Ingerman: Whose souls they're hanging on to.

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Sandra Ingerman: We all do soul stealing, and we've done shows on it, and every person on the planet steals other people's souls. We were taught how to do it as soon as we got here. So, no judgment about this at all, it's just we're trying to change… we're trying to change,

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Sandra Ingerman: 10 thousands of years of a collective pattern, so it's gonna take us a little while.

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Sandra Ingerman: But, what I find is that…

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Sandra Ingerman: When clients or students return souls back to the universe, not to the person, because the person might not be ready for it, but just to the universe.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's amazing how many people tell me that their kid, who hasn't talked to them in 10, 15 years, called them the second they did that releasing ceremony.

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Sandra Ingerman: If I can tell you how many clients and students have shared this with me, it's amazing.

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Sandra Ingerman: So if you break it down energetically, if you take somebody's soul, because you want to stay connected to them on some level, whether it's conscious or unconscious, it doesn't matter.

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Sandra Ingerman: They're forced.

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Sandra Ingerman: To be connected to you.

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Sandra Ingerman: They have no free will or choice.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, because they feel chained to you, and they don't want to be.

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Sandra Ingerman: They just break off the connection with you.

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Sandra Ingerman: You clear that. You break the chain.

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Sandra Ingerman: And all of a sudden, they want to be back in your life again.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, the reason I brought this up, Renee, is because of what you just shared about when you can come to a neutral state. And that's what I'm seeing when people perform

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Sandra Ingerman: ceremonies to release souls to the universe that they're holding onto, is once they come to a neutral place.

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Sandra Ingerman: Their family and community forms back around them again.

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Renee Baribeau: I think that's so important, and I know for me, in my own healing with my mother around certain issues.

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Renee Baribeau: that when I became neutral, it was amazing how much she healed.

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Renee Baribeau: And how she could grow to be who she is, and how, you know, and that the whole relationship changed. I mean, it goes back to this whole idea that we were talking about before, about the preparation.

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Renee Baribeau: And what you even said about the person not being ready for the soul to come back, there… I've, you know.

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Renee Baribeau: that part of the work that I've always learned is that

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Renee Baribeau: you know, when people say, oh, I do soul retrievals, and I'm sure not your teachers, it's like, that's not the first…

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Renee Baribeau: that's not necessarily the first way in with someone, from what I can… what I've learned from my own experience, because

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Renee Baribeau: there's no sense of bringing back a part that can't stay and can't be integrated because the rest of the system is not ready for it. And I had that in my life, where over and over, kept trying to bring the soul part back, and it would cause such disruption, such…

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Renee Baribeau: I mean, it would go… it would cause such bad behavior in my life that it would be like, go away!

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Renee Baribeau: And, you know, and it took me years to get ready to embrace the parts of my own self that I didn't like.

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Renee Baribeau: And again, that was housekeeping. That was house cleaning.

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Sandra Ingerman: It goes back, all of those things that I kept re-feeling.

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Renee Baribeau: Kept me in this place of being unable to But unable to heal!

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Sandra Ingerman: Right.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, when I teach soul retrieval to my students.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's a 5-day training, and, every day is work to do with clients afterwards.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, the… the soul retrieval is kind of the cure, but the deep house cleaning, with all the practices I teach to do after.

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Sandra Ingerman: You bring the soul back again.

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Sandra Ingerman: If people do that deep cleaning, they really do come to a place of really good healing. But, again, if you just bring back the soul and you don't do the deep cleaning that has to happen.

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Sandra Ingerman: you end up in situations like you were, where it's like, I didn't want this bag, why don't you go away, you know? So…

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Sandra Ingerman: It's such an important practice of sweeping out the dust and seeing what's under the dust, because there's always something under the dust.

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Renee Baribeau: And, right, and that takes us back full circle to the reason that you've been deep diving, and cleaning out the website, and cleaning out the, you know, the people who aren't doing that deep diving, and

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Renee Baribeau: The social media, where we're cleaning out people who aren't aligned to us, and…

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Renee Baribeau: moving the couch and sweeping underneath it, because one of my teachers used to come. She had a way of working with Santo Diami one-on-one that had been gifted to her, and she'd get there, I'd pick her up at the airport, I'd bring her home, and she'd spend the next 3 hours

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Renee Baribeau: Preparing her space.

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Renee Baribeau: sweeping the dirt in the desert, she'd be out there sweeping, sweeping, singing her… singing her sacred songs, and you'd think, well, why is she sweeping the dirt? But that… that cleaning the space

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Renee Baribeau: And deep dive cleaning it for the, you know, again, we go back to the preparation for the work that was going to take place there, and then cleaning it again after she closed the space was really crucial to

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Renee Baribeau: The deep dive that you need to take when you're either doing client work, doing your own personal healing, or showing up in your family.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, it's just really the time. I don't spend time on social media. I only spend time on social media to, I only read news, and I only spend time on social media.

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Sandra Ingerman: To see where the current culture is at. So, I know how to change teachings, I know how to change my work.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I think that's really important for everybody to do. We have to reflect on how the issues today are not the same issues 10 years ago.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, everybody has to change their work. If they're out there working with people, you have to change your work, because the issues change so dramatically.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, it's just… this is where people are at. So, I am looking more on social media, and I'm seeing, with the astrology, all the astrologers and all the Wiccans that, post.

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Sandra Ingerman: They're all saying exactly the same thing. This is the time to do deep cleaning on your life.

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Sandra Ingerman: This is the time to say goodbye to everyone and everything that doesn't work.

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Sandra Ingerman: And when everything in the galaxies are coming together, To support that action.

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Sandra Ingerman: And… and that's what's being asked of from the current collective right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: Imagine if all the galaxies and the universe is coming together with that energy. Imagine what happens if you follow that energy into your own life.

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Sandra Ingerman: Because that's the support the galaxies and the universe is giving us right now, is do a deep cleaning so that we can raise consciousness.

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Sandra Ingerman: And get off the sinking ship that we're on right now.

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Renee Baribeau: That's what I was thinking as you were talking, I was like, The Big Bang!

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Renee Baribeau: The Big Bang! Here we go. Boom!

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Renee Baribeau: And, you know… And I think we've done enough shows on that, like, which dimension are you living in?

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Sandra Ingerman: Right.

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Renee Baribeau: recently, you might want to look back in there to see what dimension you're living in, because if all things are converging, and all things you do, that deep dive cleaning, then you're going to be living in the right dimension

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Renee Baribeau: to be of most impact, most service to yourself and to your family and to your community, I believe.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely, absolutely, and I think that's…

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Sandra Ingerman: That's really the bottom line point of what we're trying to make, is, this is work that's energetically supported right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: So…

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Sandra Ingerman: You all know this, if you follow the flow of the universe, where the universe is starting to flow towards, what changes the universe, the Earth is starting to make, the sun is starting to make, the wind is making.

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Sandra Ingerman: The earth, air, water, fire is making all those changes.

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Sandra Ingerman: If we stay on that path, and we stay in that flow that's being supported energetically right now, imagine where we all end up.

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Sandra Ingerman: Because that's what the universe is doing right now. That's what Earth, Air, Water, Fire is doing right now. We are Earth, Air, Water, Fire. So are we following the flow of deep cleaning?

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Sandra Ingerman: To end up in this really beautiful state of consciousness.

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Sandra Ingerman: Are we following the flow, or are you resisting the flow?

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Renee Baribeau: I don't know where this came from, and I don't want to get in trouble for saying it, but

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Renee Baribeau: Oh, good, we're going back to the garden!

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Renee Baribeau: That we never left.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right.

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Renee Baribeau: So… and I… and I say that with a tongue-in-cheek, but…

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Renee Baribeau: I do believe that we all chose to be here right at this time, and that when we really get out of our own ways and get into the way of, I chose to be

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Renee Baribeau: You know, an ad, not a subtract. At this time.

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Renee Baribeau: That we could really end up in paradise.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, I love that. I absolutely love that, because that's what I'm seeing, and that's actually what we're creating.

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Renee Baribeau: So, alright, I think on that, that's a good note to end, and follow us over at the Shaman's Cape. Hey, we haven't asked for any donations lately, and I noticed when we don't ask, you don't send, so maybe it's time to help support this show. It's not a mandatory, but it's certainly nice when we get some donations.

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Renee Baribeau: And it helps defray the cost of editing and holding… holding space for this conversation.

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Sandra Ingerman: We give thanks to all of you who support us, who walk with us instead of behind us, and who help us in bringing the show out to you. And we wish you a beautiful change in seasons, and a wonderful deep cleaning.