Tracking Events and Situations that Brought you to a Place of Gratitude: Shamans Cave

This a very interesting show! So many people are doing gratitude practices and different ceremonies to express their gratitude as we know feeling and expressing gratitude is a way of healing and also a wonderful path to being in service.

But have you ever tracked the people and events that led you to the path that brought you to the place of gratitude. This is such a fascinating path but also very convoluted as Renee and Sandra found in doing the show. For so many people and series of events wove together over years to lead you to a beautiful place in life.

Join Renee Baribeau and Sandra Ingerman as they give examples of how people and events over the years led them to places, they are grateful for and how you can do this discovery on your own. If you review what you are grateful for you will find that over years divine order led you to where you now! Such a fascinating exploration. Join us!!

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Transcript

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Renee Baribeau: Hello everyone, it's Renee Barrewell, the Practical Shaman, and welcome to the Shaman's Cave!

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Sandra Ingerman: Hi everyone, I'm Sandra Ingerman, and welcome to the Shaman's Cave. And so.

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Sandra Ingerman: Today, we have a very interesting topic to talk about, and I just need to admit it's not original. I actually read about it in an article today, but I thought it was really fascinating what I read about.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I thought it would be a very interesting show, and Renee agreed on that.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, as you know, there's a lot of people, and this has been going on for years and years, it's not a new practice, but…

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Sandra Ingerman: A lot of really old practices are coming back to life again today as people are, struggling to… how to bring beauty and grace back into their life again.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, one of the practices that has really, just been staying over time is what are you in gratitude for?

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, you know, forever now, we've been hearing about gratitude bowls, gratitude jars, writing down every day what you have gratitude for, and putting it in a jar.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, today, now it's… it's big again. The gratitude jar apparently has come back, more in the mainstream, where before it was more, in the spiritual community.

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Sandra Ingerman: So I read an article today, that a woman wrote of, instead of just putting what you're grateful to in a jar, why don't you track back how you even got grateful for this?

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I started to think about this. I know what I just said sounds very confusing, so I'll give you a grounded example.

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Sandra Ingerman: So I started to think about what she wrote about, and I started to think about my connection with Renee and the Shaman's Cave. And Renee and I are celebrating. We've completed 250 shows, which is unbelievable, it seems like.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yesterday, that we started together.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I started to think about how did that connection start?

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Sandra Ingerman: And one day, years ago, I received a message on Messenger from Renee. I have no idea who Renee Barabeau is. Zero. I've never heard of her.

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Sandra Ingerman: I received a message from her, and she said that she's working with my book agent.

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Sandra Ingerman: And she's writing a book on the wind.

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Sandra Ingerman: And would I be willing to read it for a possible endorsement?

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Sandra Ingerman: And I said, yeah, sure, I'd be willing to read it. And I read, The Winds of Spirit, and I thought it was the best book I ever read in my whole entire life.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, it was like…

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Sandra Ingerman: I want to know this woman more. I want to get to know this woman who wrote this book.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so I said to Renee, would you be ever interested in doing something with me publicly? Because it's rare that I meet another person.

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Sandra Ingerman: who I feel holds that kind of wisdom.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so…

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Sandra Ingerman: as I thought about, oh, I'm really grateful, and I'm celebrating 250 shows on the Shaman's Cave with Renee.

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Sandra Ingerman: But when I thought back and tracked back about that first messenger message.

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Sandra Ingerman: And then how our relationships started to develop out of that message.

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Sandra Ingerman: And how that relationship turned into the shaman's Cave years ago.

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Sandra Ingerman: It brought such a different depth to gratitude, instead of just throwing a piece of paper in a jar at night, saying, I'm grateful for my connection to Renee and the Shaman's Cape.

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Sandra Ingerman: Being able to actually track back all the events, everything that had to come into play.

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Sandra Ingerman: to make the Shaman's Cave actually manifest in the world, to actually track back all the people who helped to make that happen.

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Sandra Ingerman: everything that Renee and I did, the conversations we had together, it brought such a depth into, wow, this… we really, have a history

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Sandra Ingerman: That created this show, that created the gratitude.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, what we're talking about in today's show is looking back at the history, at the people and the events that all came into your life, and all that came into play.

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Sandra Ingerman: So that something did manifest in your life that you're grateful for.

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Renee Baribeau: Well, that's a wrap.

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Renee Baribeau: And I did all that, and as soon as she said that, she said, well, you know, there might be hard to come up with examples about that, and I'm like, well, I just had the same kind of an example on the Cotswolds, where one day, I decided not to walk, and I decided to go to the spa.

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Renee Baribeau: And I love spas, I love to travel to spas all over, and one of the women in the group was having some kind of a knee issue or something, and so I invited her to come along.

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Renee Baribeau: And it turns out, I said to her.

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Renee Baribeau: Well, how did… you know, how did…

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Renee Baribeau: Nancy finds me to bring me to Cincinnati.

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Renee Baribeau: and that you're both here. She said, well, I found you, and I introduced you to Nancy, and I think she said she found us through the shaman's Cave.

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Renee Baribeau: And so sometimes this spiral of our gratitude or things that we believe that we can, you know, get these constructs of how things came about are not really even how those strands came in.

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Renee Baribeau: And so, I love this idea of tracing back to, okay, so she found us on a show on…

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Renee Baribeau: Loss and heartbreak, or whatever it was, then she might have gotten your book and my book, and then remembered me for this other, this other

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Renee Baribeau: Conference they were having.

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Renee Baribeau: And then all of a sudden, everybody's in the UK, and now the circle's expanded, and we're gonna have an art class together.

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Renee Baribeau: And that's how it works when you stay open to that it's not a linear thing, but that it… there's strands coming. And it reminds me that

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Renee Baribeau: In gratitude, one of the…

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Renee Baribeau: We need to always look, or I need to always look, at the unseen power that… the unseen forces that are always at play.

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Renee Baribeau: it probably took me a lot of courage to send you that message out of the blue, and yet, you know, the ISIS or, you know, the wind god was probably laughing. Oh, yeah, we had you two meeting a long time before this, but you just never… you never got into that same spiral.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right. Yeah. Yeah, that really… it reminds me of how I got into shamanism, shamanic journeying.

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Sandra Ingerman: you know, I got into shamanism as a kid through initiations, but formally, I got into shamanism actually,

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Sandra Ingerman: I am getting ready to celebrate my anniversary of my first shamanic workshop of October 31st, Halloween, 1980, was when I took my work… my first workshop on shamanism.

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Sandra Ingerman: And when I trace that back.

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Sandra Ingerman: I always say to people, it's like the universe picked me up.

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Sandra Ingerman: And put me into this class.

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Sandra Ingerman: Because I certainly was not signing up for a workshop on shamanism.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I… when you look at my life back then, I was making a decision about, number one.

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Sandra Ingerman: Should I go for my master's in Marine Biology? That's where my energy was going at that time.

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Sandra Ingerman: Because I really wanted to look at how to reverse river pollution. That was my interest in, studying marine biology. I know rivers are not part of marine biology, but…

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Sandra Ingerman: Water is part of marine biology. And so, that was my reason for wanting to do that.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I put in my application, to a school for my master's, and they accepted me.

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Sandra Ingerman: But then I was at… I was given the opportunity, somebody came in to work, I was working at San Francisco State, and said, you know, there's this alternative school that I think you would really love.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I decided to go check out that alternative school before agreeing to get my master's in, biology.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, I went, and it looked like, my God, this is gonna bring me so much joy if I go to this school. It was gonna be getting my master's in counseling psychology instead of Marine Biology, which, big switch.

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Sandra Ingerman: But my heart was really open.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, then I said, I can't possibly afford this school. There's absolutely no way I could afford this school. And so, number one, I applied for a student loan, but the school gave me a work-study job.

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Sandra Ingerman: But I'm getting ready to start my job, and somebody runs into the office and says, but you're not enrolled yet, so you can't have a work-study job. So, I was enrolled and employed in less than 5 minutes.

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Sandra Ingerman: And then, from that job, I found out that somebody was coming from Connecticut to teach a weekend workshop, and I could get two easy units.

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Sandra Ingerman: I wouldn't have found out about that if I wasn't doing work study. I just happened to be in somebody's office and heard… heard this conversation.

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Sandra Ingerman: So… All these things the universe had to put into play.

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Renee Baribeau: to get me to this workshop on October 31st.

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Sandra Ingerman: It wasn't just, oh, I heard about this workshop. It was a million things that came into play for years that moved me to a place of even having the opportunity to take this workshop.

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Sandra Ingerman: So, it's amazing how much work your own spirit, your inner spirit, the universe colludes together on to move you into the path that your soul is actually calling you to do.

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Renee Baribeau: Absolutely, I so agree with that, and my new home is one of those things.

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Renee Baribeau: A year before I came here, I was on this shamanic journey, and I saw this landscape that was really out of fuzzy, a little bit whacked, and I'm there like, well, this isn't where I'm living now.

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Renee Baribeau: And I'm there like, did the land lose its power?

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Renee Baribeau: this summer, I was very happy in my new house. I'm thinking, like, alright, I'm getting retired from my job, and lookit, I got this low-income house that I built, and, you know, low mortgage, and these people came to the island.

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Renee Baribeau: and asked me to look for them for a place to live, and so I was driving by this open house, I stepped into this house, I came into the living room, and there was the view I saw a year ago.

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Renee Baribeau: And I didn't recognize it at first. It took me a minute, because I thought I was looking at a house for somebody else, and I'm there, this, you know, this is, like, makes absolutely no sense for me. Have this low house that I've just worked my life to afford, and here's this house with this view and this…

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Renee Baribeau: this mountain that's holding me. Let's just get real, it's the mountain out the window, down the harbor, and so…

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Renee Baribeau: What, long story short, is that 12 years ago, I was sitting with one of my spiritual advisors, and I said, yeah, I want to have a house on Whidbey.

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Renee Baribeau: And I did all of the things, the indicated next steps to get to this house.

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Renee Baribeau: And how I knew it was really full circle was that the people that I was showing… this is a little convoluted… the people I was showing the house to.

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Renee Baribeau: that I thought I was looking at this house. They said, no, I'm not interested. She calls me up, said, oh, we found a house.

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Renee Baribeau: And I'm there like, oh, really? And, of course, I ran over there to see it, and sure enough, if it wasn't the house.

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Renee Baribeau: of the man that I had met 12 years before, who then introduced me around… in a roundabout way, because I didn't have any place to live here, and it came back full circle, and it took 12 years of… of hard work and

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Renee Baribeau: Following the next indicated step, then we look for those

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Renee Baribeau: those signs. Oh, well, that's really interesting. You bought the house next door to the guy that I first met when I was first looking for a house here on the island 12 years later. So, when we… when we unravel the spiral, we're always heading somewhere

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Renee Baribeau: And hopefully, it's always with a lot of joy.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, I just found, what this woman put out in this article today, I felt like it adds

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Sandra Ingerman: such a richness to, appreciating our lives at this point. No matter what you're going through, whether you're going through struggles or anything, you've had good things happen to you in your life. And so,

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Sandra Ingerman: To actually look at the chain of events…

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Renee Baribeau: to…

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Sandra Ingerman: That had to happen for some of us that was years before something actually happened. And all the people who were accidentally put on our path.

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Sandra Ingerman: I mean, I've had things… I've had life-changing things happen, because I was on a really long bank line, and I happened to, out of boredom, have a conversation with a person behind me, and from that conversation with that person behind me.

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Sandra Ingerman: some kind of opportunity came up for me, or came up for that other person, because we both had resources for each other. Oh, you're dealing with this in your life. Oh, I know how to do this. Oh, I know how to help you.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, if you look back at all the chain of events that happened to bring you to a particular place in life.

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Sandra Ingerman: It… it… number one, it brings you to a sense of appreciation more of what you did manifest in your life, because of how much preparation that you weren't even aware of went into what you're now doing.

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Sandra Ingerman: And it also brings you back to understanding that there's a magic to life that's beyond our ego's understanding.

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Sandra Ingerman: And that there are always forces, whether it's our own soul or an inner spirit that's combining with the spiritual forces of the planet.

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Sandra Ingerman: To actually bring us to a particular part of our path, a different place on our path.

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Sandra Ingerman: And when we realized how big the universe is that actually helped us create this path for ourselves.

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Sandra Ingerman: It, it's humbling.

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Sandra Ingerman: It's like, no, you're not just this little human out there doing this walk alone.

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Sandra Ingerman: There's this unbelievable, huge force, divine force, that is working in your behalf, with you.

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Sandra Ingerman: To bring you to a particular place in life, whether it's lessons around life, whether it's lessons around loss, whether it's lessons around grief, whether it's lessons around abundance, whether it's lessons around joy.

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Sandra Ingerman: There's so much that is going on around you that is in the unseen, that has brought you to the place that you're at now.

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Sandra Ingerman: And if you're willing to do some backtracking, and if you're willing to do some journeying, or meditation, or taking a walk in nature, and just sit and think about some of the,

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Sandra Ingerman: Most important parts of your life.

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Sandra Ingerman: That you're grateful for. And how did you get there?

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Sandra Ingerman: it… I don't know, for me, it just brings more depth. It's not, oh, I created this, we did this.

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Sandra Ingerman: It was everything that went into making this happen.

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Sandra Ingerman: Brings me to a different place of gratitude that is magnified so exponentially by just looking at the, event or the person who manifested in your life.

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Renee Baribeau: It's so important. What you're reminding me of, though, as well, is for me to think about what was not gratitude.

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Renee Baribeau: What was painful? What was… what was the thing that had me on my knees?

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Renee Baribeau: enough to say, I surrender, there's got to be something better than this, which I think is some of the things that took… led me to my first shamanic weekend. It was… like, I don't even know if I think back about it, I think it was at Omega Institute.

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Renee Baribeau: And…

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Renee Baribeau: it was what was available that weekend that worked along with my schedule when I was so desperate for something different that I didn't even know that it was gonna lead me down a journey that was gonna be way more fulfilling

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Renee Baribeau: And required work.

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Renee Baribeau: I mean, I've said this before, and for a year or two years, every single morning when I was unhappy, I got up and filled out legal-sized documents of, I am whole and complete exactly as I am.

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Renee Baribeau: I am grateful. I… you know, I had to change the… I had to change the channel of my brain in order to even realize how miserable I was in order to make that change so that I could

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Renee Baribeau: I mean, because now I live in a place where even when… even when something that I probably wouldn't want to happen happens, I can find the gift.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right. Yeah, I think that's… I think that's such an important point, Renee. I think it's such a crucial point for everybody.

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Sandra Ingerman: To, absorb and to work with right now is what are the changes that we need to make in our brain that would even open us up to good things coming into our lives right now?

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Sandra Ingerman: Because of everything's mined, you know, which…

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Sandra Ingerman: I do believe everything is mine. then if everything is just in your mind, then we have to make changes in our brain.

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Sandra Ingerman: In order to re-sculpt and create something different. And then when you make those changes in your brain, as you said, that's when the universe can come in and collude with you in the most positive way possible to bring you to a place that

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Sandra Ingerman: Maybe surprising, maybe different than what you were looking for, or the shamanic workshop you were looking for.

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Renee Baribeau: I laughed because I thought you said everything is mine.

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Sandra Ingerman: Oh, yeah!

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Sandra Ingerman: Mind.

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Renee Baribeau: It's mine, it's mine. But I think… I think both Sandra and I hit upon this important part that

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Renee Baribeau: it's when we remember that we're part of something that's bigger and greater, then we can have gratitude. Like, the other day, someone was writing on my Facebook post. I was talking about how

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Renee Baribeau: you know, my brother-in-law came up to me once, I was hiding behind a tree, I was smoking at the time, and he's there, like, you know, you can hide and think you're weird all you want, but, you know, you're part of this family.

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Renee Baribeau: And we're gonna love you no matter what. And it took me… it took me by surprise and took me off my game. And since then, like, you know, I'm really excited when I get to go home and visit these people who I thought were so different from me, and they are really different from me, but we found our common way.

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Renee Baribeau: And this woman wrote, but what about when your family doesn't support your It was veganism, or something.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: I'm thinking, well, bring… bring your own dinner.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right? It's not like…

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Renee Baribeau: Are we gonna pick out the differences of where we don't get along, or are we gonna find the happiness and the gratitude that we get when we get to see, oh, my nephew just got on the New York City Fire Department, he's been working towards this for his whole life?

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Sandra Ingerman: Right.

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Renee Baribeau: The similarities, the things that we can share in joy with, instead of picking apart the things that

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Renee Baribeau: That we'll never find that… we'll never find that crust of bread.

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Sandra Ingerman: Right. Yeah, I love that. I mean, that is so profound. And, what your brother-in-law said to you, if everybody had somebody who said that to them in their lives, this world would be different.

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Sandra Ingerman: be dealing with the issues we're dealing with right now. If everybody had a positive force like that in their lives, I think everybody's lives would change significantly.

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Sandra Ingerman: To know that you're being loved for who you are versus what you do.

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Sandra Ingerman: and having gratitude for that, again, spiraling this… weaving this back into our show. How could you not have an unbelievable gratitude for the people around you when they say, I don't care what you're doing, we love you for who you are?

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Renee Baribeau: It was a game-changing moment for me.

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Sandra Ingerman: Yeah, yeah.

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Renee Baribeau: You know, it really wasn't. And again, I'm grateful for the shamanic work that I was doing that took me and opened me up like a, you know, can of sardines, able to change.

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Renee Baribeau: So, a lot of… it's not a superficial change when you have to… when you really have some brokenness or some wounding around your happiness or your joy for… for this gratitude, is that sometimes, if you're not living your life

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Renee Baribeau: grateful Then there's more scrubbing to do.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely, I love that. It's time to clean. I mean, it is time to clean. We're still in fall.

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Sandra Ingerman: And, I… what all I know is that everybody around me, and everything that I'm reading, whether it's in the general news.

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Sandra Ingerman: Or whether it's my own community is cleaning up their house right now, cleaning up their life right now.

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Sandra Ingerman: And again, that is, if we spiral that back into our show, the weaving.

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Sandra Ingerman: As you start to clean up your life, and you start to bring, open up the doors, and let the breezes come in, and bring new fresh air, as you breathe that new fresh air of the life that you're now creating.

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Sandra Ingerman: What would happen if you start to look at the history of the path that brought you to this place that you're at right now?

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Sandra Ingerman: that, it's time to clean up my life so that I'm taking care of myself.

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Sandra Ingerman: And I'm also creating more space so that I can be in service to my community, my loved ones, my family, and the world, in whatever way that that looks like.

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Sandra Ingerman: You know, there's a lot of gratitude in looking at what actually happened in your life, what were the events, what would the, what were the inspirations that got you to this place where you're making such huge changes right now?

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Renee Baribeau: That's great. Our next show is going to be about being of service, and I think we've kind of gone around, but it would be really great if people would share their gratitude practices, the things that help them keep in that gratitude, and

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Renee Baribeau: How, when those strong winds are blowing against you, how you allow the winds of gratitude to blow through you.

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Sandra Ingerman: Absolutely, absolutely. And I've really, really loved, I… I am, like everybody, trying to spend less time on the internet.

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Sandra Ingerman: But I do go to the Shaman's Cave page every day, and one of the things that I'm noticing is, people are putting up more inspirational posts from their hearts, showing more of the beauty of nature.

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Sandra Ingerman: And also, actually writing about how our shows.

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Renee Baribeau: are impacting them. I'm starting to see more posts about that.

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Sandra Ingerman: And so, I know that Renee and I are both really, really grateful for those of you who are not just listening, but doing something with what we're sharing with you.

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Renee Baribeau: I know it's really great when I was in London and stuff to meet people who said they listened to our show, because a lot of times people are invisible, you know, like, we don't know who's the thousands of people who are out there listening, so we really love to hear from you, because

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Renee Baribeau: your gratitude, you know, multiplies, and so we're really grateful for you, and follow us over at Shaman's TV. We have the Shaman's Cave.

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Renee Baribeau: And we look forward to sitting here.

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Renee Baribeau: some more.

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Sandra Ingerman: Love you, everyone. Goodbye.