You Are Beautiful with Lawrence Zarian

Debra Lee

Season 4 Episode 15

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LZ welcomes Debra Lee to “You Are Beautiful,” sharing his recent duet with Kelly Clarkson and introducing Lee as the former BET leader behind major cultural programming. 

Lee recounts growing up amid segregation, learning to sew from her mother, and formative experiences with race, education, and ambition that led to Brown and Harvard Law, then a shift from Steptoe & Johnson to BET after meeting founder Bob Johnson. She discusses building BET’s legal department, leading the network through major growth, and the legacy of shows and events including BET Awards, BET Honors, and “The Game.” 

Lee explains launching the Debra Lee Collection of Italian-made handbags named for loved ones, including her late son Quinn, and promotes debraleecollection.com. 

She addresses divisiveness, attacks on DEI, advice on navigating abusive workplace relationships, and her memoir “I Am Debra Lee,” including her abortion decision and Me Too experience, ending with her definition of beauty as caring about people.

Menu: 

  • 00:00 Late Start and Big News
  • 00:16 Dream Duet With Kelly
  • 01:06 Why Debra Matters Now
  • 02:26 Debra Lee Collection Origins
  • 04:28 Growing Up With Segregation
  • 08:19 First Job and Hair Bias
  • 12:31 Why Handbags and Luxury
  • 15:51 Naming the Bags Family Tribute
  • 19:29 Timeless Investment and Quality
  • 22:20 Third Phase Reinvention
  • 28:33 Navigating Hate and DEI Backlash
  • 34:09 Treat Everyone With Dignity
  • 36:31 Basic Human Needs
  • 37:29 Why BET Changed Everything
  • 39:30 Leading BET to Excellence
  • 41:36 Programming Legacy Highlights
  • 43:24 Leaving After 32 Years
  • 44:10 Mirror Question Self Image
  • 47:39 Memoir Purpose and Lessons
  • 49:26 Me Too and Abuse Story
  • 52:45 Advice for Getting Out
  • 55:54 Fun Rapid Fire Questions
  • 01:08:15 Beauty Definition Farewell