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Episode #200: Finding Walt: Where to Discover Walt Disney's Legacy in Walt Disney World

Circle of Parks Episode 200

Walt Disney may have passed away decades ago, but his creative spirit continually inspires millions who visit the parks bearing his name. Many visitors, especially younger generations, don't realize there was an actual man behind the Disney magic—a visionary whose persistence through multiple bankruptcies and setbacks led to creating the entertainment empire we know today.

For our milestone 200th episode, we're taking you on a special journey to discover where you can find Walt's presence throughout Walt Disney World. From the iconic Partners Statue in Magic Kingdom to his actual childhood desk in Hollywood Studios, these touchpoints help connect guests to the man whose dreams made these magical experiences possible.

Walt Disney's remarkable life offers valuable lessons about never giving up, surrounding yourself with talented people, and continually pushing beyond what others think possible. His wife Lillian saved us from "Mortimer Mouse," his brother Roy ensured his name would live on, and countless collaborators helped bring his revolutionary visions to life—proving Walt's greatest talent may have been recognizing and nurturing the abilities in others.

The hidden gems we explore include the two special windows honoring Walt in Magic Kingdom, the touching Dreamer's Point statue in Epcot, and the must-visit Walt Disney Presents attraction in Hollywood Studios. Perhaps most special of all is the peaceful Carolwood Pacific Room at Wilderness Lodge, displaying Walt's actual trains from his Holmby Hills home—a perfect spot to enjoy a quiet moment reflecting on his legacy.

Whether you're planning your first Disney vacation or your fiftieth, discovering these Walt tributes adds meaningful depth to your park experience. Join us as we celebrate the man behind the mouse and the creative spirit that continues to inspire Disney magic worldwide.


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Speaker 2:

Hello and welcome to Circle of Parks podcast episode number 200. Today we are going to talk about where you can find Walt in Walt Disney World. There is far too much to see and do. We are here to help guide you through, but before we do that, we must talk Disney merch. So this week's Disney merch if you go to MagicalEarsCollectiblescom since we're trying to keep it Walt-themed today they have a Walt the Dreamer ornament. Now this is based on the statue that you can now find in Epcot, so it is Walt the Dreamer ornament for $34.99. And again, you can find that at MagicalEarsCollectiblescom and that is this week's Disney merch.

Speaker 3:

Thank you everybody for joining us. Episode number 200. We try not to make a big deal about episode numbers, because I don't think it really matters.

Speaker 2:

Do you? No, but it's good to know, like, hey, we've done 200, now We've done 200 episodes and if you've been with us from the beginning, thank you. Yes, because those first 30 were rough.

Speaker 3:

The first 50 to 75 were tough. I mean not that we're any good now, but we're at least easier to listen to.

Speaker 3:

But, but we're at least easy come a long way easier to listen to, yeah, but thank you so much. We really do appreciate it, and for this episode I didn't plan it this way, it just kind of happened. But I think we need to talk about why we're doing this and who. We're doing this because of one person, and one person only. Now, he didn't build the company by. He had a ton of help which we're going to talk about.

Speaker 3:

But it was his ideas, but it was all of his ideas and we're going to talk about how he was able to make those happen. And it's important because I don't think kids like this our kids generation Now our kids know who Walt is because we just pounded into their head every single day, right, but I don't think a lot of kids know that there's a person behind all of this. They just think that's the parks.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's just a theme park, right. But before we get into that, I'm Zach, I'm Brittany and we do this show every single week. Our goals are to help you have a better Walt Disney World vacation and then just to Give you some Disney magic and just make your week better. It helps make ours better. It definitely helps make ours better. Alright, so before we talk about where you can find Walt, I'd like to discuss why we felt it's important to this episode. I've been wanting to do this for a very long time. Like I said, I don't feel that many kids these days realize that Walt Disney was an actual person, and we can learn many life lessons from the story of Walt. I've listened to multiple biographies, books about Walt and the Disney company, and these are some reasons why I think they've been so successful and what we can learn from them for our own personal lives.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's hear them.

Speaker 3:

So, first things first, walt never gave up. He failed multiple times, multiple bankruptcies, lost a company and he just kept going before they became successful, even when they were successful after, like Snow White, and that there were still times that they didn't have the money Right. Like World War II, was extremely tough on the company Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

But he never gave up, he never gave up they did films for the military and they just charged them at cost. So they still weren't even making money really during the war time. Yeah, they were just keeping the studios afloat. And then in the early 80s they almost had a buyout, a hostile takeover in the 80s, which led to Michael Eisner Big thing Anyway. So why was the company and Walt so successful? Walt was an amazing communicator, amazing communicator and an amazing storyteller.

Speaker 3:

He wasn't the best animator, but he wasn't. But his leadership skills and that he was a great communicator and storyteller is why the company was so successful. And this is how amazing of a storyteller he was he sold snow white to his animators by acting out the entire movie oh, wow to his and, like he, he told the whole story. All the, all the characters acted it out, so they knew he was able to communicate exactly what he wanted to as animators. That's insane.

Speaker 3:

Another reason Walt and the company was so successful. Like I said, he wasn't the best animator, but he was able to surround himself with the right people, know how to motivate those people and get the best out of them even more than they thought they could do Right, and I think that's an amazing life example of surrounding yourself with the right people. That's huge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it can make all the difference Huge.

Speaker 3:

For example, Lillian, his wife, thought of the name Mickey Mouse instead of Mortimer.

Speaker 2:

Yay, thank you, Lillian.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, Lillian. Could you imagine us celebrating Mortimer Mouse?

Speaker 2:

Well, but you wouldn't have known the difference. But Mickey Mouse just sounds so much friendlier.

Speaker 3:

Just rolls off the tongue, right, yeah, yeah. So the story here is after he had lost Oswald, the lucky rabbit in New York to Universal, on the train ride back to LA to break the news to Roy, his brother, they lost Walt, or they lost Oswald he drew Mickey Mouse and on the train ride Lillian said what is his name and Walt said Mortimer and Lillian said no. How about Mickey?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and Mickey Mouse was born. There we go. Another person, Roy, his brother the businessman, made all of Walt's dreams a reality, including Walt Disney World. Without a solid businessman making these dreams come true, the Disney company would have never been. I'm sorry, Roy was an amazing businessman, was able to make these things happen. Another person that he surrounded himself with Right. Another person, legendary Imagineer, bob Gurr. Yes, legendary.

Speaker 2:

He is. He still does specials on Disney Plus and stuff. He's like 98 years old.

Speaker 3:

So Bob Gurr was just an automotive engineer. He designed the Autopia, cars, the monorails, all that stuff. So he was an automotive engineer. Guy Walt tasked him with building the first ever steel coaster, the Matterhorn. He had no idea what he was doing, no idea, but he knew he had the automotive engineering background.

Speaker 3:

He knew Bob Gurr could do it. And Bob was like no, I can't do this. He had to learn trigonometry, all this stuff, to figure out the track. But he did it. And so Walt knew how to get the best out of people and they wanted to work the best for Walt. Another example Mark Davis, one of Walt's nine old men, legendary animator, did Cinderella. All of those classics turned him into an imagineer. He wasn't just an animator, he was an imagineer. At the end of his career he did pirates, caribbean uh, pirates of caribbean jungle cruise, haunted mansion. So all the like funny gags you see in these attractions. That was mark davis yeah country bear jamboree.

Speaker 3:

okay, all that stuff was mark davis, so he was anator but was still an amazing storyteller and could do it through. Walt knew he could do it through the Imagineering side. Okay, so that's another reason why Walt and the company was so successful. Yeah, so a long time ago when I was a bicycle racer, my coach told me this only the mediocre are at their best all of the time, because if you're continually pushing yourself beyond what your limits are, then you'll always fail. But fail forward and learn right. This stuck with me. Right.

Speaker 3:

So this is what Walt did, though he pushed his animators and imagineers beyond what they thought they could do, he got the absolute best and never settled. He called plussing it up, making it better. This is why everything always went over budget films, the parks, everything. Because walt was always in there refining it, making it better. Hey, you can do this better, you can do that better. So never settle for mediocrity, right, never, they never did. No, that's why, in my, all of these reasons is why the Disney company still to this day where we can get into arguments about now, but back during Walt's time was as successful as it was. Right, he was just such a great man. I admire him, and if I could have a dinner with one person dead or alive, it would be Walt, and we'll get into that a little bit later. So that's why I feel we need to talk about this, because we haven't talked about Walt. And we do talk about Walt, but not really in depth, Right?

Speaker 2:

Like where you can find him in each part.

Speaker 3:

Alright, so we're going to go to Magic Kingdom first. Where can you find Walt Disney in the Magic Kingdom? Now, there are some obvious answers here, but we're going to go over them. Walt has two windows in the magic kingdom. The first one is on top of the train station. You can see it as you're coming in to the park. It's on the very, very top, overlooking seven seas lagoon. I think that's just awesome yes, also location perfect location also when you get in. The trains are a huge nod to walt one of them is actually the Walter Disney right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And then in the train station there are so many pictures of Walt where you get your strollers Underneath the train station. There's like a little corridor in there Right. Tons of pictures of Walt on the trains. Pictures of Walt, just tons of pictures of Walt. Lots trains, tons of pictures of Walt, lots of Easter eggs and nods to Walt underneath the train station there. So that's another spot. And of course we're going to talk about the partner statue in the middle of the hub with Walt holding Mickey hands. This is iconic. Yes, we have so many pictures and I took these specifically of this statue and the castle Because I think it just embodies what this is right. Right right.

Speaker 3:

The statue. I love the story of the statue. So the statue was sculpted by famous sculptor Blaine Gibson, who's done tons of stuff for Disney, and there was never a way to guide Mickey's height with a regular person. So how did you scale that? He used Mickey walking up the stage holding Stokowski's hand in Fantasia. Remember that? Yes, I do. That's how he judged how tall Mickey should be.

Speaker 2:

Okay, in making the statue, In making the statue and there's some cool little Easter eggs on it.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to talk about it in my book, but my favorite thing so Walt's like pointing out right back towards the opening of the park. Right. And there's a lot of debate about what he's actually pointing to. I like to think that he's pointing out to all the crowds coming in to telling Mickey hey, look at all those people coming out to see our park. Yeah. That's what I think, I think that's really really cool. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, also, Walt's second window is above the ice cream parlor, overlooking the hub in Cinderella Castle. I think that's really, really cool.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I've seen that one. It's hard to find.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's hard to find because it's kind of obstructed by some of the decor on top of the awning.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, uh, also, we're going to go to adventure land. Now, walt disney's enchanted tiki room yes, it says it in the name, right, this is one where we talked about walt pushing the Imagineers and pushing the limit of what they could do. So, as this was in the works they were Harriet Burns, one of the first women I think is the first woman Imagineer ever was working on the birds, the audio animatronics, and was showing Walt the birds and he goes. Why aren't their chest puffing out?

Speaker 2:

To make it look like they're real.

Speaker 3:

To make it look like they were breathing and Harriet was like, well, no one's going to notice that and he goes, they need to be breathing and just walked away.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Okay, well, okay. So Harriet messed with the birds but they could never get the breastplate to look right. They couldn't get a material, so it looked natural and flowed around it. So one day they were in a meeting with Walt. Harriet was in there and he was wearing a cashmere sweater and she noticed how natural the sweater moved around Walt's elbow and arm and stuff. So she thought to put cashmere on the breastplate of the birds to make it look more natural.

Speaker 3:

And there we go mirror on the breastplate of the birds to make it look more natural. And there we go. So again, that's another example of Walt pushing for the best. Right. Because would you have really noticed if the birds were breathing or not?

Speaker 2:

Probably not. Probably not, but he wanted it as real as possible. Walt did though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and that's another example. It's a small world. I know the attraction we love to hate Everybody loves to hate but this was originally not going to happen. This was a late addition to the New York World's Fair and they already had three attractions going when UNICEF approached. I want to say who. It wasn't Walt, initially, it was, wasn't Wally Bogue, somebody, one of the other executives? And they said no, we can't do it. We've already got three attractions to work, we don't have time. About a week later, Walt found out about this and he was irate and he was like yeah, we'll make we'll make, we'll figure it out, we're going to make time and they did it.

Speaker 3:

So another example there we're going to move on to Tomorrowland, Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress. It's in the name right. Yes, and this was another way of pushing the audio animatronics to the limit, right, and so I thought that was really good. And where did it start? It started at the 1964-65 World's Fair for GE. Yes, because they were promoting their products.

Speaker 2:

The appliances. The appliances, yes.

Speaker 3:

And then this isn't Walt, but we talked about Roy initially. I want to talk about Roy and the Roy and Mickey statue on the bench in Town Square.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

When Walt passed away. Is it Roy and Mickey statue on the bench?

Speaker 2:

in.

Speaker 3:

Town.

Speaker 2:

Square. Yes, when Walt passed away, is it Roy and Mickey or Roy and Minnie, roy and Minnie?

Speaker 3:

Sorry, my mistake, roy, I mistyped it, roy and Minnie. Roy was going to, roy was retired and when Walt passed away, he made it. He came out of retirement to make Walt Disney World happen. And when they were designing everything, it's just going to make Walt Disney World happen. And when they were designing everything there, it's just going to be called Disney World. And he said no, no, no, it's Walt honor his brother, honor his brother. Walt.

Speaker 3:

Disney World. Now Epcot wasn't truly what Epcot ended up being. We're going to talk about that in a minute. But I think you have to honor Roy here, because not long after Walt Disney World was completed, a a few months after Roy passed away. Now some people like to say it was because of the construction of the Magic Kingdom. That's not true. Also, when Walt passed away, he left a lot of money to an institution called CalArts. He wanted a pipeline for Disney animators to go to college and then become the Disney animators. Well, I'm currently listening to a book right now talking in depth about that and there was a lot of controversy with the beginnings of it and whatnot. And Roy's wife says it wasn't Walt Disney World because Roy was on the board of CalArts.

Speaker 3:

It was CalArts that did it for Roy, but anyway because there's just a ton of controversy with getting board members and anyway. But we need to honor Roy for here as well. Did it for Roy, but anyway, there's just a ton of controversy with getting board members and anyway, but we need to honor Roy for here as well, because this would not have happened without Roy.

Speaker 2:

If he didn't continue out the project.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we're going to move on to Epcot. Not a whole lot here at Epcot. I mean, basically, epcot is not what Walt envisioned, what we have now. Walt had envisioned an experimental prototype community of tomorrow where people would come, companies would come and their employees would live here and they would innovate and it would be like a permanent World's Fair. But by the time, like the 70s was rolling around, world's Fairs aren't were not like they were in the past. Right.

Speaker 3:

Because communication was becoming better, everybody could show off products easier. So even if Walt was alive to see Epcot through, I don't know. You don't know how it would have turned out, if it would have turned out the way he had envisioned it, just because of the way the world was changing at this time.

Speaker 3:

Right just because of the way the world was changing at this time. Right, but it was supposed to be this utopian community where people came to improve technology around the world through science and technology. I think the perfect example of this is living with the land, though, because they are innovating ways to better grow crops, better handle outside forces and deal with it with pests with Pest, but with hydroponics and stuff.

Speaker 2:

All this stuff.

Speaker 3:

I think living with the land embodies what Walt's original idea was going to be for Epcot. That's what I think Spaceship Earth. This may be a bit of a stretch, but it's about the communication right. Yes. Again, excellent communicator. I think Spaceship Earth be a bit of a stretch, but it's about the communication, right? Yes? Well, again, excellent communicator, I I think spaceship earth, you can.

Speaker 2:

It may be stretching it a bit, in my opinion, well, minus even though he was an excellent communicator, I think still it's showing how communication changed and and has grown, and everything you know they need need to add in a later scene to it still to be more like where we are now. But I think you know he was all not only him being a good communicator, but he was all about learning.

Speaker 3:

The edutainment. Yeah, he was all about edutainment. And then, of course, we've got the Walt statue behind Spaceship Earth. I think this is a must visit for everybody. Is that Dreamer? Is a must visit for everybody, is that dreamers?

Speaker 2:

dreamers point yes, you have to go get your picture taken with walt. Yes, you have to, and the pictures like it. They turn out great. There's never a wait there, that's like.

Speaker 3:

I'm glad when I go there's never a way to have to wait for it, but it saddens me that no one's wanting to get their picture taken with walt. Yeah, right. So again, that goes to my assertion earlier as no, this generation doesn't think there's a man behind all of this.

Speaker 2:

Right, well, and then also I mean it's not hidden or anything, but like it's not right there in the plain open either. Like to see that there is a photographer there sometimes you know, yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Now there's again a newer park, right, so there's not any influence from walt in the design or building of this park, but there are one really big one, but there are a couple others that you may not notice, and the first one is in the echo lake area next to pv Pipeline. There's a building next to that and there's a for rent sign in the window and on the door it says Holly Vermont Realty when the Disney went. So Roy was already living in California when Walt moved to California, with literally nothing, the first offices they rented were in the back of the Holly Vermont Realty Company in Hollywood. So this is a nod to the first offices of the Disney Company, right, I think that's really cool, yeah, and then in the Hollywood Studios area, and like the main area, a lot of the buildings are designed after real buildings in Hollywood in the 1930s. So I think that's kind of cool, not really associated with, like Walt himself, but still the timeline, the timeline is there in Hollywood in the 1930s. So I think that's kind of cool, not really associated with.

Speaker 2:

Walt, Walt himself. But still the timeline. The timeline is there.

Speaker 3:

I think it's really really cool and it kind of sets the stage for it, and I love how Michael Eisner described Hollywood studios in his opening statement of this is a Hollywood that never was but always will be. I think that's a really cool line. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because it never really was that glamorous, but in everybody's eyes and memories that's the way it was. Right, I think that's cool. Now this attraction we're going to say this is an attraction museum should be a must-do for every first-timer going to Walt Disney World. Walt Disney Presents and One Man's Dream.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and like you said, it is like a mini museum. I mean, there's sketches, photos, models, costumes. So much the multi-plane camera.

Speaker 3:

Walt's actual childhood desk. So many models of things that they did for the parks. It really is a museum to Walt and the. Walt Disney Company and One Man's Dream is a quick 20-minute. It's 15 minutes. 15-minute video about how this became and I think for every first-timer this is a must-do.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah.

Speaker 3:

You have to do it is required?

Speaker 2:

well, it, because it really truly explains why all this is here, you know, and I mean it's got like real historical footage of waltz and you know even home movies, and you know, I felt myself kind of getting teary-eyed through some of it. At one, point.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, so yeah, that's it for Hollywood studios that I could find, because a lot of stuff's just newer. You know, we're going to move on to Animal Kingdom. Now this is the newest park you may say. Zach, what nods are there to Walt in Animal Kingdom? Kilimanjaro Safari? Now, I may be stretching this a bit, but I love this because Walt initially wanted animals live animals on the Jungle Cruise, yes. So I feel that this is his dream of having live animals on an attraction come true.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 3:

Also, walt loved animals and they used to make the True Life Adventure films in the 60s about animals. Yeah. So I think this is a nod to all of that and I think this may be Walt's would have been Walt's favorite park.

Speaker 2:

Quite possibly, especially since he was wanting those live animals such a long time ago.

Speaker 3:

The live animals and just the Conservation, in-depth storytelling here and the attention to detail. Yeah, that is why this is my dream day. If I could make anything happen in Walt Disney World for one day, I would spend the night at Animal Kingdom Lodge, wake up and go down to Boma for breakfast, and sitting at the table would be Walt and Joe Rohde them two. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And just listen to them talk right Right. Then we'd go to Animal Kingdom and do the attractions and listen to Joe and Walt talk about the storytelling, the amount of detail that they put into this park.

Speaker 2:

Right, and especially like Flight of Passage and Everest. Could you imagine?

Speaker 3:

Walt riding Flight of Passage. He would love it. The technology here and the storytelling and the queue and all of that. He would love this.

Speaker 2:

And then Everest.

Speaker 3:

Everest. Oh the queue, oh man. And then the safari, like what, like listening to walt and joe talk about how they made this happen, I think it would be amazing, I would love that, like absolutely love it, and then, to end the night would go to nomad lounge, right yeah, have some beverages, I would have the best scotch Like.

Speaker 3:

We're bringing up the big guns here right, like Macallan 18, johnny Walker, blue and just. I would just be a fly on that wall Because Walt was a scotch drinker and I would just enjoy listening to them talk about it.

Speaker 4:

I think it would be amazing. Yeah, yeah, okay, what do you think? I I think it would be amazing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah okay, what do you think?

Speaker 2:

I mean that would be a good day. You would thoroughly enjoy that and yeah, and all the detail and stuff, he would be very pleased. I just think that'd be so cool, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think that'd be so cool. Alright, we're gonna move on to one more place. It is not in the park and it may be one of my. It is one of my favorite places to relax.

Speaker 2:

And it definitely is a nod to him.

Speaker 3:

In Walt Disney World and this is the Carolwood Pacific Room. The Carolwood Pacific Room is located in the Boulder Ridge Villa DVC building of the Wardeness Lodge on the first floor. It's kind of hidden. You got to know where it's at Lodge on the first floor it's kind of hidden.

Speaker 3:

You've got to know where it's at. But when you go in there there's this huge fireplace, big rocking chairs, trains, His actual train. From his home in Hombly Hills he had a huge train set that he would ride and take his friends on and stuff like that. These trains are here. This is dedicated to him. This is a must. If you want to find Walt, this is the place.

Speaker 2:

Lots of pictures, great pictures of him on the train.

Speaker 3:

So, if you go, there's a picture of Walt riding a train underneath the train station in Magic Kingdom. The train that he's on I've looked him up and the train that's in on display at this room they're the same train.

Speaker 2:

Oh, in the Carolwood Pacific room. In the Carolwood Pacific room.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that is awesome, nice, and they call it the Carolwood Pacific room because his train was called the Carolwood Pacific. Okay, so when we stayed at Woodness Lodge, not this past last time we went to.

Speaker 3:

Crisp. So a year and a half ago, when the boys went to bed, I went downstairs to Territory Lounge, told the bartender. I was like, hey, give me the best scotch you have. I'm going to go have one with Walt. I was like can I get it into GoCup, he goes. He knew exactly what I was like can I get it into GoCup, he goes. He knew exactly what I was doing, filled it to the top, he goes. Tell Walt I said hi, he got it. Right he understood.

Speaker 3:

I went in there. They were blasting Christmas music, the fire was going and I was having a scotch with Walt and it may have been one of the best experiences ever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did a really good job in that room too.

Speaker 3:

It's amazing, it is amazing, so I think this is another place. If you wanted to find Walt, this is it. Right. This is a great place. So Thank you everybody. That's all I've got for this For listening to me talk. Brittany didn't have much to add to this.

Speaker 2:

No, it's fine Because it's fine, because it's all you and you're very passionate. But I mean I agree, like the Carol Wood Pacific Room, like even the boys like enjoyed walking through it and everything, and you know just everything else that you were saying when I was commenting, like, yes, some of it might seem like a stretch, but if Walt really wanted real animals in a park, you know he got that with Animal Kingdom and definitely, like I said, one man's dream and that you know the 15 minute showing of it, I mean it, it I didn't think it was boring at all, you know it, it definitely held my attention and you know, like I said, even made me teary eyed. So and then, yeah, I just I enjoy. I think every time we go to Epcot we're going to get pictures taken with the statue. I just, I enjoy, I think every time we go to Epcot we're going to get pictures taken with the statue.

Speaker 2:

Every time and you know, and the partner statue in front of the castle in Magic Kingdom. You know, I mean there's so many pictures out there, not just what we've taken, but just, you know, all over the internet and stuff and it just, and I think everything that you said is definitely, you know what a lot of people would probably agree like he's he's pointing out. You know, look, we made this happen.

Speaker 2:

Look at all these people coming, yeah there needs to be more waltz in the parks, well, and there needs to be like, even if it's just like having which they've done it a little bit here and there, like with like the nighttime music shows and stuff, you know just having him. You know some quotes from him, exactly, you know some quotes from him and stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Uh, cause they did it. The one thing I can say they did right with enchantment, the firework show, is they I did. They did add that little Walt part in the beginning. That was amazing. Yeah. They got that right.

Speaker 2:

The rest of it was crap, but that beginning was great and Epcot they did for the 50th anniversary, the show on Spaceship Earth.

Speaker 3:

They added Walt in there. They need to do more of Walt. Add more Walt in here. We need more Walt in the parks.

Speaker 2:

And again just little tidbits here and there. I agree, Completely agree.

Speaker 3:

All right. So thank you everybody for joining us. I really appreciate it If you've been with us for 200,. God bless you.

Speaker 2:

Yes, thank you so much.

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 3:

We appreciate it and talk to you next week. We will talk to you, thank you.