Tuesday Talks: Shots, Safety and STI Risks

Tuesday Talks: Shots, Safety and STI Risks | Episode 107

In this week’s Tuesday Talks, Dan and Lacy tackle a listener question that a lot of people might be wondering—but aren’t always comfortable asking out loud. The topic? Trimix shots and whether they increase the risk of transmitting HIV or other STIs, especially if there’s bleeding at the injection site.

While they’re quick to remind listeners that they’re not medical professionals, Dan and Lacy break it down in a real, honest, and easy-to-understand way. They talk through how Trimix works, what potential risks could exist, and why communication, awareness, and personal boundaries are always key in any play scenario.

This episode is all about staying informed without fear, asking better questions, and making confident, educated choices in the lifestyle.

 Tune in now to get the full conversation and hear how Dan and Lacy approach this important (and often overlooked) topic.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

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SPEAKER_02 0:22

Welcome to the Swing Nation Podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe. Interview the experts. Learn and grow together. Join the nation.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Tuesday talk. Just do your questions today. Tuesday talks. Tuesday talks.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Talking Tuesday with Dan and Lacey. Ooh, how about that high note?

SPEAKER_02 1:07

That's perfect. Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation Podcast. We are your host, Northern Guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

And Southern Girl.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

And we are back with another Tuesday Talks episode with Dan and Wacy. Yeah. Wacey.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

Okay, let's jump right into this week's Tuesday Talk question. I'm ready, Wacy. Okay. This one is from there's no name, but it said this one's from my wife, who is wondering about the safety implication of men doing traumatic shot immediately before sex, especially assuming not divulging that info with their partner. When they inject into their penis, does it not create a tiny needle hole that could make microscopic blood escape during oral? In other words, does the injection site have enough time to heal before someone unwillingly may be exposing themselves to a fluid exchange? Mostly concerned about oral, but suppose you could be concerned also about penetration if the injection site is not fully covered by the condom. We hear on several podcasts that men use the shot and often do not tell people they're doing it. Thoughts. It is, but first, before we jump into it, we are not medical.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Yes, disclosure. I, me and Lacey have never gone to medical school. I have no medical training. This is just practical advice from practical people.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

So this is just like So if you listen to us and you get HIV, please don't sue me.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

No, well, the the truth is that we are not professionals. We are gonna give you what we think and kind of like our best practices and why how we handle it. If this is something that you are genuinely concerned, I talk to your doctor about it. I recommend that you do speak to a medical professional because we are not those. And and if enough people have this question, we will we could bring it to Dr. Shower if we feel like this is a valid question.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

This would probably be a good Dr. Stoer question.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Yeah, but we are gonna you know attempt to answer it from our uneducated, just around the lifestyle little brains.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Yes. So it, you know, as as DJ Trimax, I think I um I speak well. Um I can speak on this subject. Uh, if you don't know why I called myself DJ Trimax, somebody said that in our comments.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Like a troll.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

It is kind of funny.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

It is a little funny.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Sometimes trolls are funny. That one is funny.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

That's a good troll. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

But it also shows like they listen to our podcast. Like, because we don't talk about Trimax much on like Instagram. No. That's clearly somebody that listens to our podcast and then like went to Instagram just to troll me.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

You've also only tried Trimex. It's April. You tried Trimax first time in January. So we're like we're four months in.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Maybe like, yeah, like I've used it like three times, four times, maybe at this point, you know? Yeah. Four parties, not like four times, but anyway. Um, so it is worth noting that if you use Trimex, right? This is an injectable that you are injecting into your penis. And often when you do that, I mean it's just like you go to the doctor and get a shot. Some that spot where you and put a needle in.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

You're breaking the skin.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

You're breaking the skin. Sometimes I, you know, I'm thinking of like the times I've done it, it bleeds maybe 50% of the time, right? 50% of the time, no blood, not even a drop of blood comes out. 50% of the time, like a little tiny drop comes out, right? And I do the same thing like what you do when you get a shot. I would just take some toilet paper and I would just hold it on that, you know, clean that spot up, hold it there, pressure for a second, and then done with it. Uh, right. Uh, I would say usually when I take Trimex, it's not like you shoot Trimex into your dick and then you fuck two seconds later. Yeah. Right? It it it's it's quicker than like Viagra or Cialis is. Um, but it's still, you know, you still probably need like 30 minutes before it really takes like full, full effect, right? So usually what I'll do is I'll go, you know, we'll be out dancing at the party, whatever. We're like, we're gonna go fuck. Be like, yeah, we're gonna go fuck. All right, we're gonna head back to our room, we're gonna get ready, we'll take a shower, we'll meet you guys in the playroom, right? As soon as we get back to the room, I take my trimex shot, my bleed are a little, whatever, cool, clean that up. Then I hop in the shower. Yeah, right. So now I take a shower, right? Then by the time we get done with that, we the hot water running all over your dick.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

It's starting to chub up a little.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Yeah, yeah. Then you know, then by the time we get done with that, usually now my dick's starting to get hard. Maybe Lacey sucks a little bit in the room. Now it's like rock hard. We head to the playroom. Again, I'm not a doctor, but there's no blood ever actively coming out of my dick at that point in time, right? Uh also, we always use condoms. Yeah. Right. So in that in the condom where I usually for penetrative sex. Where you shoot the shot into you, they recommend it like kind of like uh on the side of your dick. So it's it's like mid shaft. So it's covered by the condom when you're having penetrative sex, right? Now, for oral sex, it is not covered, right? And so I actually looked up uh, and this is on Chat GBT because I wasn't a hundred percent sure, and I kind of want to double check myself, but to transmit um HIV, it does have to be um a blood-to-blood exchange, right? So if you just if you just suck somebody's dick who happens to have taken a trimex shot and they're bleeding a little bit, and you don't have any cuts or sores or bleeding in your mouth, you can't there that's not a blood-to-blood exchange, right? You can't, you won't get HIV that way. And I'm actually, I'll read it here, right? So I I said, can blood in your mouth give you HIV? Uh, you know, or would you have you have to have an active cut in your mouth, right? That's the question I asked Chat GBT. It says, short answer, blood in your mouth alone doesn't automatically give you HIV. Transmission depends on whether the virus can enter your bloodstream. How this works HIV is transmitted through infected fluids like blood entering the body. The mouth is generally a low-risk environment because saliva helps to break down the virus, right? So it's saying the saliva in your mouth, the virus doesn't transmit through your saliva very well. So this makes it a lower risk environment. However, risk increases if there is a direct pathway into your bloodstream, such as open cuts, sores in your mouth, bleeding gums, uh, gum disease, uh, recent dental work or injuries. So uh no cuts in a health a healthy mouth, extremely low to near zero risk, right? This is ChatGPT saying this, not me. Um, but no cuts in a healthy mouth. If somebody did happen to still have a spot of blood on their dick from the needle injection, uh, pretty low, low to near zero risk, is what ChatGPT says. If you have cuts, sores, or bleeding gums present, risk is still lower because of the saliva, but it is not zero, right? So if you do have actively bleeding in your mouth, you do have some risk if somebody has an injection site that is actively bleeding. Uh and also this goes on to say the blood would have to come from somebody who is HIV positive and has a detectable viral load. So if you don't know nowadays with uh HIV medications, you can actually get your viral load down enough so that you're not even transmittable, even though you have an active case of HIV, right? So if it's even if it was somebody that had HIV but is on medications, even if you have cuts in your mouth and they are bleeding, there's still a low chance of that transmission, right? Um so to answer your question, yes, it is a risk, right? If somebody takes a trimax shot, it is a risk, especially if you have cuts or things in your mouth.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I think having not using protection in any form is a risk. So, like not using doing penetrative sex without not a lot of swingers do oral without like a dental dam or something like that. There is a risk associated. I mean, yes, the HIV is definitely a risk, but there's also a a whole mess of other ones that you're probably more likely to get thanks to.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Yeah, I would say, you know, getting oral chlamydia or gonorrhea is probably because here's the you know, the honest thing nowadays, people that have HIV, almost all of them, if if not all of them are on some kind of medication that's that's managing their viral load for that HIV, right? If especially if they're a responsible adult, um they're taking medication that is is handling that viral road load, which then makes the the risk significantly less. Uh and like you're saying, the risk of unprotected oral sex in in a swinger environment, you're much more likely to catch uh chlamydia or or gonorrhea or like a oral gonorrhea um uh than you are HIV.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Because the truth is, I mean, we don't know everyone, obviously, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting HIV from a swing. Has it happened? Yes, I'm sure it has. I've never heard of it. Have I heard of gonorrhea, chlamydia, MGN weekly to be super transparent? You know, we we hear about it quite often. So I do think that no matter how you engage in the lifestyle, there is a risk of any and all of these things. I think you have to do like you have to do a risk assessment and decide where you fall on that. Um, and especially like I've seen a lot of Reddit posts about people that are immunocompromised. Like they, you know, like should, you know, what do they do to protect? I mean, uh obviously if in your you're if you're in one of those situations, your risk are gonna be much higher than your average person. So I think that's like regardless, like, yes, try this tri-mex situation does bring in a risk, but the truth is they're like there you could cut yourself. The truth is you could cut yourself shaving and have a little thing there, or you could bite your inside of your lip and then a girl could suck your dick. And you know, there's always going to be Dan gets nosebleeds when he takes Viagra, and he it's not uncommon for his nose to just bust out bleeding in the middle of a playroom. There's that risk. I mean, there's always going to be some sort of risk. And I I I do think that her question is very valid, especially about not knowing if someone has done trimix. But the truth is we don't know what any of these people have done behind closed doors. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Like you said, you don't know if they've nicked their dick while they were shaving that day.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

That you don't know if they, you know, like one time I was playing and a guy cut my vagina with his wedding ring fingering me, you know, like but that I bled, you know, like you just don't know.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, I've had girls um, you know, bleed just from having fucking just from sex, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Yeah, so I mean there's lots of different variations or variables, I guess, within that. And so at some point in the lifestyle, we can talk about risk and we can figure out where we fall, but you you have to sort of just know that they're gonna be there and find and figure out where you're comfortable with.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Yeah, I think my takeaway from that is maybe, you know, and this is probably if if you had active cuts in your mouth, maybe it's not a good idea for you to be sucking dick. But I think that kind of goes if you have cuts in your mouth or sores in your mouth or active bleeding in your mouth, you probably don't feel like sucking dick, right? Like you probably just wouldn't do that, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Also, like having a conversation with somebody, but like, hey, I, you know, um, here's my HIV test. I'm a little worried about it. Do you know, do you have when's the last time that you were tested? And then like, do you do you use Viagra? Do you use truck? Well, just sharing test results with people, you know. Like if you ask me right now, this very second, to see my SCD results, I could pull it up in two seconds. You whatever you need.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

I would probably have to ask Lacey to show it to you just to be clear.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Like, because I know that we are doing the right thing. If somebody's like, uh uh uh and they fiddle around or whatever, then there's that probably tells you what you need to know. Red flag run. Yeah, that tells you what you need to know. So, like making all of these conversations like comfortable and like not scary is the best, the best advice I could give you. Like, if you're just really freaked out about HIV and you have no good reason other than that's your thing and that you're freaked out by it, just say, hey, I'm super freaked out about HIV. Did you take TriMex? I just want to make sure, you know. I mean, just like be honest, be just just be you. Find people that accept you for you and your quirkiness and whatever that because we all have something that we are worried about, right? So whatever that is, just be honest and and and just I'd rather you just put it out there and like nip that in the bud then it become a bigger issue.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Yeah, I I guess my takeaway though is from you know, once I read all that, I don't I don't feel like trimex, specifically somebody having to stick a needle in their dick puts them at a significantly higher risk than anybody else.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

It doesn't, but sometimes being worried about something doesn't make logical sense.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Yeah, you know, you can have an explanation in it for somebody that now if you are a person that struggles with has active bleeding in your mouth, honestly, you probably just shouldn't be sucking dick at that point. You know, and if your wife has active bleeding in her mouth, she probably just should not be sucking dick at that point. Yeah, yeah. And that would probably be a just a good remote.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

I think if you have active bleeding on your body, maybe like sit this one out, period. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Well, that's the case, you know. But what he's saying is Trimax does expose you to that. But but truly, by the time, again, you take the shot, you shower, you get ready, you head to the playroom, that active bleeding is done. You know what I mean? Uh so yeah, I think it's a pretty low risk. Um, you know, and if if your wife is worried about it, I would say as long as she doesn't have active bleeding in her mouth, she probably doesn't need to worry about it. And if she does have active bleeding in her mouth, she probably needs to not suck dick.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Yeah, and consult your doctor.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Yeah, and ask your doctor to confirm all that.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Could you imagine having that conversation with your doctor?

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Yeah, I'm about to I I like sucking random guys' dick that aren't my husband's. And I know some of them take trimex shots.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Should I be concerned about getting their blood in my mouth?

SPEAKER_02 15:15

Yeah. Yeah. Um, but it is an interesting conversation. I have heard the whole trimex, you know, somebody penetrating their dick with a needle and that, you know, increasing risk. And I I have no doubt that it does then increase risk. They do have an act of you know, kind of a wound on their dick. Um, but if they're using condoms and getting tested, um, and you know, you have a mouth that doesn't have an active bleeding, um, it seems like it's it's a pretty minimal risk.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Yes, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Uh, all right. Anything else for the swing nation listeners? All right. If you have a Tuesday talk question, we would love to hear from you. There's a few different ways you can get a hold of us. You can call or, or I'm sorry, you can email us, and that email is theswing nation at gmail.com, theswing nation at gmail. Now you can send your question in the email. You can send your question in a voice note to the email, or you can send a video message via email uh to that email. And uh we'll we'll try to. I actually the our TV's not working right now. I can't, I couldn't get it to connect to the um screen sharing thing. So I gotta work on that. But uh, if you send us send us a video, I'll figure the TV thing out and we'll play that uh for you. And uh if you don't want to email us, you can also call or text.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

And that phone number is 972-302-7716.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

One more time.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

972-302-7716.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

All right, so text your questions there. Uh, call and leave a voice message or send uh a video uh that way. Yeah. Uh and you can also send your dick pictures for Lacey and your boobs and vagina for me. Uh and Lacey's apparently been hoarding those from me, but she's gonna show them to me tonight.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah. Uh I even got a pussy fill, I mean a cum-filled vagina.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Oh, you did? Yeah. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

There you go. How do you feel about that? You're not really a is a cum-filled vagina a turn on for you? Uh you don't like cum.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

It I can take it or leave it. It is what it is. I mean, you're neutral?

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Yeah, yeah. It doesn't make you like that seeing that you're not like oh no. But you're not like, oh my god, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

So I can just swipe away.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

So it's not like you don't want you don't enjoy looking at it. I mean, I can appreciate you would have rather it be uncumfilled though.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

I I'm pretty g I'm pretty neutral. It's the same. Yeah. So a dick in a vagina, I mean I can appreciate the work to get the cum. Let's just put it, leave it at that. Like, I appreciate it. She did some some good work to get that cum over. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

She's a good she's a good girl.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Yeah. So I can appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

I'm pretty neutral.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

All right. So if you're a good girl, send us your cum filled pussy. Or just any pussy. Yeah. Uh whatever. Yeah. Or not. It's up to you. Yeah. Uh all right. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? That's it. All right, guys. I think with that, in a world full of apples, be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Twitter content creators on our Twinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at thustwination at gmail.com. Make sure you head on over to thustwination.net and keep up to date on all things TwinNation. We thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you next time. Goodbye.