Episode 228: We Gave Beginners the Ultimate Fishing Test

This week on Outdoor Journal Radio, the boys are back from La Réserve Beauchêne, one of Quebec’s most unique private fishing destinations.

With 50,000 acres, dozens of lakes, luxury accommodations, incredible food, and fish-filled water everywhere you look, Beauchêne is the kind of place most anglers dream about. But this trip came with a twist: instead of Ang and Pete doing the fishing, they coached a group of novice anglers through their first real taste of Canadian Shield fishing.

From broken rods and missed fish on day one to big smallmouth and a full transformation by the end of the trip, this episode is all about what happens when beginners get dropped into one of Canada’s most impressive fishing reserves.

The crew also talks about lead in wild game, whether anglers should be paying more attention to lead fishing tackle, reel maintenance, video podcasts, and Ang’s 25-year history with Beauchêne’s longtime manager, Tony.

If you love fishing lodges, Quebec fishing, smallmouth bass, walleye, lake trout, brook trout, or just a good old-fashioned fishing story, this one’s for you.

Make sure to listen for this week’s bonus code for extra entries into the Garmin ECHOMAP Ultra 2 giveaway.

Subscribe for more fishing stories, outdoor news, conservation talk, and behind-the-scenes stories from The Fish’n Canada Show and Outdoor Journal Radio.

Transcript

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This episode of Outdoor Journal Radio is brought to you in part by the Invasive Species Center, protecting Canada's land and water from invasive species. Freedom Cruise Canada, rent the boat, own the memories. And JMB Cycle a Marine, your home for all things power sports, boats, and equipment.

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And now, another exciting episode in the adventures of Outdoor Journal Radio.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Thank you. Always nice to hear an enthusiastic audience like this.

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We get that about once a week if we're lucky, right? It's pretty much Dean's fingertips when that's a good thing.

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You betcha. We have to take that on the road with us when we're out trying to shoot a fish in Canada show.

SPEAKER_05 1:13

Snagg and you get off the snag.

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Exactly. Or somebody, you know, saying, Come on, you can do this.

SPEAKER_05 1:18

I would be nice. The boat, you know, if for some reason the boat is just the battery's dying or whatever else, and you know. It's funny. It's funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Well, first of all, uh hi there. Welcome to the program. Thanks for joining us. Um it's funny you say that because I've always said, I've always maintained that confidence plays a major factor in your uh fishing pursuits, whether you're doing it recreationally or whether you're doing it professionally or aspire to be an influencer in the business. Absolutely. I think confidence is a bigger factor than a lot of us like to make it is. Then that's why I say, even for us who've been doing this way beyond our best before date, uh, you know, we expired a long time ago. But to have like an audience there cheering us on, or or you know, giving us some encouragement, I think it'd be great. I'd like to throw it out there. Maybe we can get uh uh audience people saying, Yeah, I'll I'll sit on that panel and we can float in.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Yeah, two or three votes out there.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Well, we can get uh Princecraft to throw in a couple of those big uh try-tunes, those big 60-footers, and we can fill it with uh bleachers and put audience out there and and they could cheer us on. I want to be their driver. I'll drive one of those things. That'd be fun. That would be a blast. Can you imagine that? When when you you screw up, the audience gives you booze.

SPEAKER_05 2:44

Booze like that golf tournament. Dean, what's that golf tournament there? Oh, that indoor thing. No, waste management. The waste management role brutal. Oh my god, you screw that up, you're done.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

I think we'd add another element or maybe maybe uh have us hanging around another 40 years if we I don't know. Yeah. And what of a uh did I tell you we're having a wonderful, wonderful program today? We're gonna be talking to you about a recent uh trip of ours to La Bo La Rizer Bochine in uh the province of Quebec. Yes. And uh you guys were there last year without me. That's correct. I had. And uh this time uh I said, no, I'm coming along for the bride. Um, what'd you think? Well, you know, I've got a bit of history there. Uh we'll talk about that in the program. But uh it's every bit as wonderful as I remember it. Such a nice place. It really is a nice place. It's like locked in time for me. It's it's yeah, untouched. It's exactly the same way it was 25 years ago when we passed there.

SPEAKER_05 3:43

And it's probably gonna be like that for another 25 years. Oh my gosh. Seems to be the, you know, is they don't want change there.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

They've got the formula, they got a winning formula, and it's working great. Uh, we'll talk about that in a minute. Uh, located near Tamiskaming, Ontario. No, Temiskamine Quebec. Timeskiming, Quebec, not to be confused with Temiskaming, Ontario, like I just did. Where is how are they in relation?

SPEAKER_05 4:02

They're uh they're not that far. No, believe it or not.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Uh 60, maybe 70 miles. I think, yeah, probably something like that. Um anyways. Before we do that spelled differently, though.

SPEAKER_05 4:13

I'm sorry? Spelt differently though. Yes. Well, of course. But of course, Ms. Year. But of course.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Oh boy. I shouldn't be doing that because we have a meeting coming up here. Well, no, this this will be before this happened. So it doesn't matter. We got a meeting with Quebec? With uh somebody from Quebec. Uh oh. Yeah. So I don't want to be How's your French?

SPEAKER_05 4:35

You getting uh you polished up?

SPEAKER_02 4:37

It's getting better by the day, buddy. By the day. I even don't I surprise myself sometimes. Uh speaking of which, how's the store doing, Nikki? The store is doing pretty good these days.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

Okay. Pretty good. We've killed the sale. Okay. And that's not good.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

She's done.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

No, but it's it's good because it means that all that new stuff that we showed last time is just that much closer to being on the store. So overall, the store's going great. We're still on limited stock. We're in a little bit of a gray zone with what we have in, what we don't have in. Okay. But what we do have, yeah, um, are just cool little flash sales that we're just putting up.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Did I understand uh recently I was at I attended a meeting, a director's meeting about uh the store, and did I understand correctly that there are some items that are either going up or will be up by the time this airs that have never been on the site before, yet we've had them in stock for a couple of years.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Is that yeah? So we we had a bit of a surplus of some extra items that never really fit in with our launch that never kind of really jived. And so they're up on the site now. Oh, they're up now, and um they're on sale as well. Okay, these are like cool.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

Share with the audience a little bit, like a little bit of a share this much then.

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Tiny a major one that we have going up are some copper '88 products, gloves and braces and stuff that's gonna be.

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Started wearing those just lately myself.

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Uh from our arthritis. Uh, this is probably gonna be the best price for them that you can find. You could buy them at Shoppers Drug Mart and pay almost double, or you can get them from us and pay a lot less.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Wow, I'm gonna talk to the folks uh who make that stuff. I'm gonna see, I'm gonna recommend a full body version of that. Like a wetsuit. Like I can put it on in the morning, head to toe, and get rid of all the aches and paints.

SPEAKER_05 6:28

Piss on it, put a hood on it, too. Uh, dude.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

I think there's already a name for that, and it's made out of spandex, but I don't think we can say it on this show.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Um, but no, uh, yeah, so those are up there. I don't know why they haven't been on before, I guess. Uh you know, as a as a uh founding member and director of that uh enterprise, I was shocked to hear that we had an investment sitting there for over two years that was not being utilized.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

You know, sometimes sometimes it's uh it's better late than never. All right. That is your weekly update for the beauty of a family business, folks.

SPEAKER_05 7:06

It's uh very quickly. So the the copper infusion into these garments, is it for it's for health reasons, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Pain. Arthritis, mostly arthritic pain. Yeah. Um but it promotes uh stimulates uh the movement of blood, especially in joints. And um I believe it's also anti um uh inflammatory.

SPEAKER_05 7:32

Which is but the arthritic, it's kind of the same as arthritis, right? I've worn them for years. I I've been wearing them at night now. Like I sleep with the glove with a glove on, and I wake up in the morning and it's better. Yeah, it gets better than it's not fixed, but it's better. But it's better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:44

Yeah, because the blood's moving for your for whatever reason. Yeah, yeah. It's copper, obviously. I don't know. But anyways, they're on uh and we and the reason we originally brought them in is because we just felt uh anglers who spend a lot of time in the outdoors are prone to you know our throatic pains now and then. And whether it's due to weather or just wear and tear, this copper infused product really does help. I've been I've been using it for years. Like I say, I wish I just wish they had a like a full body version of it. Because my elbows and and the trap door, and if they're a trap door in the back. Sure, well, trap door in the back.

SPEAKER_05 8:21

One piece, or you want two pieces or one?

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I like one piece. Yeah, you get up to have the trap door then or you can't. I do like one piecers, but I'll speak to the uh people in the designer. I know them personally as you do. And that's it.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Any any other news from the shop? That that are it. The shop is in uh a very healthy spot, and it's just it's chucking along. Raring to go.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Season 40 is as well uh in a healthy spot. We are uh just approaching the halfway point of season number 40 on global television network, eight o'clock Saturday mornings. Halfway already.

SPEAKER_05 9:00

What the hell?

SPEAKER_02 9:00

I didn't even think we were gonna get into it. Now we're halfway through. Yeah, yeah. Um Sportsman's Channel and uh World Fishing Network. Wait, Dean, should we not be adding more distribution to the broadcast? Like in your notes there? Um oh, I didn't read my notes today. Okay. So what are you saying?

SPEAKER_04 9:24

No, they're they're not in your notes today. I could add them. It's just that we have a lot of networks that we're on now with all the streaming boxes. People I'm sure are finding us all over the place. We're on Amazon Prime. We hear lots about people who are watching us on Amazon Prime now.

SPEAKER_05 9:38

We're on Amazon Prime. We're on Amazon Prime. That's awesome. I know.

SPEAKER_04 9:41

I love Amazon Prime.

SPEAKER_05 9:42

Yep. I didn't know we were on it. You don't know half the stuff that goes on, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Wow. Half the stuff that goes on. You're right. You're right. Did you give was that uh wow from you, or was that a wow from that was me. No, no, let me hear your wow. Wow. There, thank you. I like that. Um listener feedback in response to our podcast with Jay Legier. Oh, hey, that's the the uh mountain man, the backwoods man, right? Backwood smoker, yeah. Um I could use one of them right now, actually. Yeah, you like them? Well, I just had an urge. Just had an urge. Uh Desi? Desi Rebel from Ireland. No, wait, wait. Is this Ireland, Ontario, or this is the country? No way.

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Ireland, Ontario. No way.

SPEAKER_04 10:33

Well, we have a London Ontario.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Why wouldn't we have a Ireland?

SPEAKER_04 10:37

Well, we don't have an England Ontario, do we? We have a Paris, Ontario. We have Paris? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

We got them all. So why would I think this Ireland is is is not one of ours? Uh Desi Rebel from Ireland says, Man, I came here to watch Jay, but really like you both and your characters. I could I can almost hear the accent there.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

I love the Irish accent, it is the best. I love it.

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Uh, really good and positive outlook from you all.

SPEAKER_05 11:04

Hey, nice Desi.

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Thank you, man.

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That's awesome.

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In Ireland. I hope uh I hope uh Desi's uh subscribed to us now and watches a little bit of us. Uh more of us.

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Outside of Canada and the U.S., I think they're like fourth on our list of like biggest.

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They know Petey's Irish, eh? They know Petey's got a little bit of Irish blood in him, eh?

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I think you've got a little bit, a lot of blood in you.

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And I have the drinking blood in me and I have the swearing blood in me, too. So I got her all, boys.

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You got it all. Conservation, and anybody out there from other countries, let us know. It's kind of nice to it's great.

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Yeah.

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That's the most important thing. That's key. Yep. Uh all there at invasivecarp.ca. In the news, brought to you by our good friends at JNB Cycle and Marine, Ontario's largest princecraft mercury package boat dealer. Just when you thought it was safe to consume wild game because it might it was much better for you and healthier for you. Should be, right? And oh my god, if I could get some wild like anybody listening that's got like moose meat or deer meat, send it down to me. Kind of messaging. Just when you thought it was safe, we have this uh story that um is kind of shocking, although not surprising in today's day and age where everything can be perfectly healthy for you one day, and then next thing, you know, you you just contaminated your whole body and you're not gonna live till to see when it's always something new popping up, right?

SPEAKER_05 13:19

It seems like we hear about it.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

It says that game meat uh can contain lead residues from hunting ammunition, which is not a shocker. I mean, this is not something new. It's lead. It's lead. You put lead now. The only thing I would question before we go through the whole article here is how much time does that lead really spend in the well, uh uh we can go through it or about I'm not gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 13:41

When you dress it, see when I it's gone. I'll give you my quick, my quick before we even get into it. I like it when we don't know what the hell we're talking about. Well, we're making it a picture of the bigger. I was a uh an avid duck angler, waterfowl angler. Not a big game, like that big dude right there, but I was a waterfowl angler. And it's actually even more prevalent, I would say, there, because every now and then you would you shoot a duck and you paste it him. You got him, you got him good. And it's whole like all you see is you know, the breast, the breast meat is what you want, the most of full, like eight, nine uh bullet holes in a pellets, basically, like that. But I don't know what how long it would they'd have to sit before they would get into the meat, like the to leach into the meat or whatever, but we bring those ducks home that day and we clean them, and we all those pellets we see the holes if it's you know, the if the bird is still salvageable, then you you you pop all them pellets, you get them out of there as fast as you can.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

And that's but that's in a small duck where you're really only eating a small portion of that animal anyway, right?

SPEAKER_05 14:39

But they're like seven or eight lead pellets in there, but versus a 240-pound animal with a tiny little slug in it.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

You know you could get stuck in there and not.

SPEAKER_05 14:47

Oh, you can get stuck in there for sure. I don't know if the if the uh dean, do you know if the big game hunters try to get the the get the lead out sort of stuff?

SPEAKER_04 14:54

I mean normally it passes right through for the most part. Oh really? Yeah, right. Yeah not always, depending on where you have maybe hit it in the shoulder or something. But yeah, the majority of the meat is not has not even been touched by the lead at all. Yeah, of course. I thought this study was weird. It's not a news study, it it it was just kind of making the rounds again, so I thought we'd talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Oh, it was a week uh uh uh a week a week in the news, in other words. It was a week week, it was a week week.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

So it's an interesting piece, you know what I mean? Yeah, especially because they actually have taken measures mostly more to do with um in duck hunting. They banned lead pellets I don't know how long ago, years ago years ago for um the like the the leaching into the environment, mostly with bald eagles, because um if you've left an animal that was full of lead, the lead was enough to k kill a smaller animal, like an eagle, or at least cause some harm. In humans, it was never thought to have much of a concern. But I I actually thought about it this year because I shot a turkey this year that had a lot of pellets in the neck. Um I I picked them out, but it made me consider tungsten, maybe, or something that well that's the push, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Right now, not right now, it's been going on for over a decade to um ban the use of lead as in ammunition and make it all tungsten or other materials, I guess. There's a couple of other uh uh materials as well.

SPEAKER_05 16:13

Biz Bismuth? Is that probably the most popular? But would like would tungsten like lead, obviously, lead is the perfect element for a bullet. Wait, right weight to size ratio, weight to size ratio, accuracy, and all that stuff. And maybe tungsten could be as good, but it'd be a lot more money.

SPEAKER_04 16:30

It's supposed to be even better, but the prices are insane right now, especially right now, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Same as in uh lead weights for fishing, right?

SPEAKER_04 16:36

And I wonder that's kind of why I wanted to talk about this a little bit, because I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about that in our world, like in the fishing world about baking. They try, California's and tried and tried and tried and tried to get it. Oh, it's been going on for years, yeah. I never hear the headlines in hunting, I hear about it all the time, but in fishing, like you can like in one sense we're banning lead shot because it can harm an eagle, but how many you know, walleye are choked with lead and then float up and get eaten by an eagle too? I just I can't imagine it's it's that much more in the hunting world. I don't know. Interesting observation.

SPEAKER_05 17:11

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. I know the other thing with duck hunting is is another reason they banned it is because you're shooting over a pond, and a lot of these like a mallard uh Did you say they have banned it? They banned it over water, waterfowl hunting. Over water. Over water. I don't know about the field hunting still, if there's not or not, but what I was gonna get at is these like mallards and blacks, for instance, and and there's uh pintail. These ducks are called puddle ducks, and they dabble and they put their head, you see them, their ars goes up in the air and they're waving like that, and then they're picking up all the stuff on the bottom. Well, they're eating all these little lead pellets, too. They're eating whatever's there. So that's another reason why they they say that's what they uh why to stop it.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

So the uh study that comes to mind for me was about 15 years ago where a group, and I don't even know who they were, but there was a study that uh came out floating to the surface of loons being probably the most critical um problem with lead of any kind, whether it's uh split shot on your sinkers or hunters with yeah, loons apparently are the most susceptible to consuming lead. Obviously, yeah. So I don't know why.

SPEAKER_05 18:16

Yeah, because I thought they were fish eaters.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Well, they are. Uh that's why I could at the time it was kind of bizarre. A few of us got pulled a soapbox out and got placards out, saying they have a crop or something.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

Maybe they have a crop. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

I think they're so far removed from the bottom in most cases, and they're foraging on l uh living fish, so they're chasing fish around, how they would intercept lead is beyond me. Yeah, it's a weird one. But it was a big thing, and that was kind of the start where this whole thing about uh, you know, save the beaver thing came out.

SPEAKER_05 18:54

Gotta save the beaver, bud. It's Canada, right? Do you remember that? Eat a tree, save the beaver, eat a tree.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

You had to say it. Like you're you're so predictable. Well, you got it so predictable.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

I was in I was selling t-shirts when that came out, and it was the best. It was number one. Anyway, I love it. Uh yeah, interesting story. I don't know which side of that you would be. I mean, I think as outdoors people and you know, fishermen, hunters, I don't care if if even if you're not into impact activities in the outdoors, maybe you're into hiking, camping, etc., you know, my your your footprint is going to be left behind.

SPEAKER_06 19:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

And it's incumbent on all of us to be aware of that. And every time we have an opportunity to lessen the blow on natural spaces, then we should. It shouldn't come to legislation like obviously this could. Um we should do it ourselves. So if there's a better way to interact with nature and leave less damage behind than we should. You know what?

SPEAKER_05 20:04

I just got thinking, we were talking about, especially in the big game, for instance, um, if they had a tungsten shot, a tungsten shell or whatever. Oh my god, it's so expensive. But how many shells do you need? Like you're there's only one good shot's gonna take that guy down, right? So if you brought five shells with, I don't know how what deer hunters dean what they bring, they bring 10 or 15 or 20 shells with them. Like no, not usually. No, because you're probably gonna get one or two cracks at most in a day. So let's say you get four shots off at most. You buy them single.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

From what I know being in the business, you had to buy them in box slots.

SPEAKER_05 20:37

Yeah, but with a tungsten, let's say they were seven bucks a shell or something like that, or whatever. I would think they would probably sell them in four or four or five at a time, maybe. But I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

Yeah, my tungsten turkey loads were four in a box. It's like $59.99 or something.

SPEAKER_05 20:50

Just $60, $15 a pop. You better hit. That's all. Go out and practice, you know. Maybe you just sacrifice a couple of shots. Or could you could you sight your gun in with lead, Dean?

SPEAKER_02 21:00

I did that one that I missed. So you can't.

SPEAKER_05 21:02

You can't, you gotta use the okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Yeah, I was gonna say the uh the real deal. That's a little expensive target practice.

SPEAKER_05 21:10

15 bucks a shot. Holy shit. Oh, that would be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, um fishingcanada.com. You'll see that story.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

That whole story. Wonderful story.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

We didn't read any of it, so you go.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

Hell no, you don't want to read. No. Well, when you can have somebody tell you the story. Exactly. We've learned that through a lot of things. Should we not have that on Fish in Canada? Can we not like we put a lot of words out there on that site? Can we not just eliminate that? And Pete and I will just narrate it. We'll just narrate it.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

No, but we won't be like an audiobook. Yeah, like an audiobook, but without without a script.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

We'll just give us give us the topic. Say, okay, uh, we need to do a story on uh the evolution of uh I don't know, fishing rods. I think that's called outdoor journal radio.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Of the podcast. I don't know. We have too many barriers here, though. I don't know. You have barriers here? Yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:06

For example, you guys just never edit half my shit out. Exactly. Oh video smoking on camera and that okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Don't say that.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Well, already I got enough bleep. You know, I'm not gonna edit it out, but I will just you know what honestly is gonna start censoring you. Do you mind writing that time code down?

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 22:32

Hey, you can't say that. You can't you have to edit that out. Sin. You know what? It's one of the ten commandments. You just sinned.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

Yeah, name the other nine.

SPEAKER_05 22:41

Thou shalt not nick.

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SPEAKER_03 23:25

I'm not against it. I want to hear the quality of the question first.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

But no, the problem is how do we quantify it? See, on YouTube, we can quantify it, correct?

SPEAKER_04 23:32

Uh we know they're there. They have to put their name on Spotify and everything.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

That's how you know it's Pierre.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Well, you know.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

Not like PJs. Then why aren't you adding in Instagram, Facebook, and everything?

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Well, because does the show air on Instagram or Facebook, Peter?

SPEAKER_05 23:45

Well, they could find our nippets, our little snippets and nippets and everything else. Omnipotence. Omnipotence are on there.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

Well, if they see the nippets, then they can come to the real state.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Speaking of omnipotence, uh, this question is interesting. Awesome to hear from Bob Azumi. Like, hey folks, where did he get that? That was from our Bob Azumi episode. He's just reading. Oh, he's oh, I see. People listen to these all the time. Oh, so ongoing. And uh uh, and he says, I always want to know when Wayne broke a Shimano rod on one of their shows, is that what got them a deal with Abu? I have no idea what the hell that's all about.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

I take back my $50 um invitation.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Yeah, I don't think it's been the quality of the uh Spotify. Unfortunately, this is not the real fishing show. No, but there's still more. Since you guys are talking about sponsorship, we were, anyways. Okay. Uh every fisherman will break a rod and reel at some point. Absolutely. We just uh experienced a couple of uh novice anglers breaking rods on a recent trip. That is too correct. I service my own reels. Yeah. And do you service your own reels? Question mark. There's a question if we were looking for a question in this point. Um, I'm talking uh a frame off restoration down to bear casting. Kate. Thanks for great show.

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Casing, bear casing.

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Casing.

SPEAKER_05 25:07

Frame off frame right now. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Yeah, nuts and bolts. That's called a rotisserie restoration in the car business. Rotisserie, I like that. So they completely dismantle everything.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

We know I for the first time this year, uh, Pierre, uh, I took all our reels in the spring before the season started, bait gasers and spinning, and I took apart what was easy to take apart. So I had them all apart, you know, pretty much. You took the line off them, in other words, what do you say? No, no, no, no, no. I did all that, cleaned them all up nice, nice, uh oiled and greased them all up and put them back together. We rarely do we do that. I mean, we should do it every year, every year, because they're they're feeling great right now. So um we're starting to do that right now. We try we try to fix uh guides, tip top guys, obviously that's nothing, but even the guides in the middle of the rod, we've been starting to do that a little bit now, too. We've got a little threading machine and all that kind of stuff. So we're taking it on our own to uh but if but it's a good point. If if you have old gear that you really like and it's getting stiff, send it to somebody that does that too. There's there's guys out there that Ben Wu does that now. Oh, is he? He's got a business out in the East Coast.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

He has done pretty much everything, everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:16

He's called Real Real Tuned.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

What he hasn't done is run for the presidency of the United States.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

It's coming. That's probably coming with Benny. But anyways, yeah, he's good to service you reel. So yeah, we we've started to. How's that sound?

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Uh Pierre, thank you. VHP Spotify. And uh any listeners out there, viewers out there that are now watching video on Spotify. I understand that's a brand new element that's been added recently.

SPEAKER_04 26:39

And Apple, there's nowhere where there's no video now. Everywhere you're listening, there's probably video.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Wow. Yeah, no kidding. But you can still listen to it just at the end. You can.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

I actually, to if I'm being completely honest, I turn it off because it it's it's hard in the car to have this thing on when you're driving. Well, it'd be very distracting, yeah, right, to to be watching.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

It I uh I like putting it on like in the background on the TV. That's when I listen to the podcast, any podcast really. I leave it on the TV and then I'll cook or do whatever. Yeah. I'm not really a car guy for it, so I like the video option. I like that we have that. Okay. Big fan.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

All right. Because you know it'd be a whole lot easier if we didn't, right? Like we could do these 10 a day or something without.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

No, but well, quality over quantity.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

All right.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

Just curious. Now I'm gonna cut this part. I'm gonna bleep it, but what's this? Come on. Oh, why would you do something? See, no one's gonna know who I said because it's gonna be a good friend. No one's gonna know who you're talking about. It doesn't deserve that. Still no one knows everybody today. I know. No one's gonna know who we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

I wonder if they talk about us in their products.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Definitely. Definitely. In their products? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 27:47

Maybe, maybe I don't know. But the sportsman show maybe he's matching us a little bit. Maybe. But we've worked with them on that stuff too.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

But you've been feeling like you're never getting the love that you deserve.

SPEAKER_05 27:57

I don't give a shit, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

I didn't ask you if you gave a shit. I asked you if you ever get the feeling.

SPEAKER_05 28:01

Well, if I don't give a shit, that means I don't get the feeling because I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Do you have any feelings at all?

SPEAKER_05 28:06

Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah, I do. Yes, sir. I'll tell them. I'll tell them to you one day. All right. One day. I'll tell it to you one day.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

I'll tell it to you. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

Uh uh, thank you, Pierre. Appreciate it. No uh no goodies, though. Um, unless the guys decide to put Spotify uh Spotify. Not this time, anyways. They haven't changed over yet. Okie dokie, moving on. Uh the topic at hand is a recent trip that uh unique. Uh very unique. So let me set this up for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the boys shot there a couple of years ago, I think. It was or last year. Last year, a year ago. Yeah. And uh Nick and I were not on that shoot, but I was disappointed in that. I I remember it from a shoot 25 years ago. Roland Martin and I went in to shoot. And it was uh unique and wonderful then, and let me tell you, it has not lost any of its charm whatsoever. Uh, and certainly not its abundance of fish whatsoever. It's still the same. Uh it's in northwestern Ontario. It is in Northwestern Quebec, uh, northeastern Quebec, northwestern Quebec, miss mid-northwestern Quebec, just across the border from North Bay to give you an idea of where it sits. And in Quebec, uh unlike most other jurisdictions, uh, it is perfectly within uh uh the regulations for uh private enterprise to own a tract of land and a lake. And they can put a big barrier around a big fence and and uh it's off limits. In most other areas there's so much red tape to doing. Well, first of all, it's prohibited in some jurisdictions. Um in some it's just so difficult to do, it's just not thought of. But in the province of Quebec, they've been able to work around that. They have this thing called Zex. Now, this is not a Zec, this uh is an actual private track of land and waterway, which is uh totally unique. And it started out as a well called a country club for uh wealthy anglers, um a bourbon company, I think. Yep, I think so. Uh started it as sort of a a place where they could go boondoggling with their clients back in the early 1900s.

SPEAKER_05 30:30

I love that word boondoggle. You like boondoggle.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

That's good. The best boondoggle in the world that I ever saw was Monackey Lodge in Ontario.

SPEAKER_05 30:38

You were you on that boondoggle? No, I wasn't. I went to shoot there. Oh, and you saw the boondoggle in Bronze?

SPEAKER_02 30:43

I was staying in the boondoggle, and uh I was told a story of the boondoggle, and that was from uh built by the uh former uh Trudeau uh Pierre Elliott Trudeau.

SPEAKER_05 30:56

Oh, yeah, go to old Pete there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Yeah, he built that as a place to hang out with his buddies, and then it went on to uh private ownership, and then it got burned down, and then it got purchased by the Reed family out of Manitoba, who owned Knee Lake, among other places, awesome. And he bought Manaki and brought it back to its former glory, and then it got sold. Anyways, long story. Why am I even there?

SPEAKER_04 31:23

That's where the woman got attacked by the muskie, by the way, that you interviewed a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Exactly. And that's also a place where I I'll never forget it. Um there was a lake not far from there called Ball, B-A-L-L Lake, and what made it famous was that there was another boondoggle operation there that was mob-owned.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

Uh mob uh group out of New York, I believe. They also used it for the same reasons, but of course they took it to the next level. Oh, yeah. And for some inexplicit reason, they had to abandon it real quick uh in the early 60s. And they preserved it because it's on um territorial lands, uh, the uh community, the native community there have kind of enshrined it, or that at the time they had enshrined it, so they kept everything exactly as it was when they abandoned it. I'm talking about plates and knives on the table, with uh just they ran away from it. Oh the whole place.

SPEAKER_05 32:35

Can you imagine RCMP involved in that one a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Oh, can you imagine? They had a fleet of beavers and otters that would choke a horse and all of the uh in the shops, all of the components, various components of engines under construction and rebuild and floats and all that were just left behind. The whole thing is left behind. So yeah, called Ball Lake, B-A-L-L. I don't even know whether it exists anymore. But uh I don't know how I got to that, to be honest with you. Another boom. Because we're talking about uh this wonderful operation in the province of Quebec, La Reserve, Beauchesne, that is managed and operated by uh Tony and Dmitry. So Tony is the uh old-time uh director and uh manager of the property. Um Avramchev. Tony Mremchev. He's been there for well, he was he was there when I was last there 25 years ago. Right. And Dimitri is the new guy who's being broken in. Wonderful guy, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 33:36

Oh, I love Dmitri. Both of them are yeah, they're both great guys.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Um, they have Peter, maybe you can help me. I don't know how many, it's 50 acres of property, but how many lakes? It's over, I think it's 40 or more than 40 because they have I know there's a lake 42 that you guys shot at.

SPEAKER_05 33:53

So maybe big Bowchain, little Boshain, and then there's 40 more, maybe, Dean. Is that what it is? Yeah, I think there's 40 lakes within the acre.

SPEAKER_04 33:58

Yeah, yeah, in the property.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

So they're all little little tiny, well, not tiny, but yeah, some of them are quite tiny little pothole lakes, and they're just it's just heaven. Every one of these lakes you go into is just heaven. The main lake and big Beauchain Lake. You we brought our fully rigged prince craft with 250 horsepower, and it's you know, you need a good sized boat to go around that lake for sure. There's two parts to the lake, and it's it's pretty lengthy. Um, but then you can rent one of the boats. If you don't have a boat yet, you can rent one of the prince craft boats they have at the dock for the main lake or these little outlakes. Best part is you just get in your truck. You stop at the uh head office uh on the way out, they put trolling motors in the back of your truck, they put paddles and nets, they do whatever you all set up batteries, then you drive to lake number 42 or 38 or whatever it is, and you pull in, you see the boats there. Uh they give you a combination to unlock the boats. You're out fishing.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

And you don't need your Pete mentioned a truck because the roads are um unregulated and certainly some of them relatively difficult to uh they're not bad. Some of them apparently, according to Dimitri. Oh, is that right? Yeah, they tell you whether that road this particular year that you went is still accessible via conventional truck. If not, they have side-by-sides and ATVs, which is is a wonderful trip in the and you go in for the day and come back at uh that night, or that they have some outpost camps too, I understand.

SPEAKER_05 35:27

There's on the main lake, isn't there a couple on Big Beauchain?

SPEAKER_02 35:30

I believe so.

SPEAKER_05 35:31

But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Uh speckle trout, if you're ever looking to immerse yourself in surroundings that are I won't say exclusive to speckle trout, but certainly speckled trout would dominate in that body water. They have those, yeah, as they do smallmouth bass, as they do just about every other species uh that you can think of. Yeah. So in a you know, say a five or seven-day trip that you do there, you could actually experience going into lakes that are predominantly, you know, uh speckle trout or smallmouth or walleye or lake trout or whatever, and sort of fill your your whole um to do list.

SPEAKER_05 36:08

I often get a combination. I went into a smallmouth lake last year when Dean and I were up there and I picked off a couple of nice lake trout in the process, and they weren't that, you know, you were thinking 50, 60, 70, 80 feet deep, but they were only in 30 feet of water, and they were nice ones too. They fishing smallmouth. Didn't even know it was a laker until I got them on, you know. So cool.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

I just uh you know, when we ever we go to places like that, and yes, by the way, yes, it is not cheap. Yeah, all those amenities we just talked about, the boat, the electric motor, the batteries, uh uh they come at a price because this is an all-inclusive operation. So um you in your fees you get a boat for uh per two people. Uh the gas is included. Um I don't know whether the bait is included or not. It might I I'd be shocked if they because they don't they don't charge extra for anything, right? So they don't, yeah. And the reason I mention bait, because live bait is still one of the most used uh products out in most of these lodges. I still you know, I would say minnows and worms are still number one. We don't we tend to to not use it, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:16

Um of them Dean, was there a couple lakes that were barbless?

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Yeah, there are the natural brook trout lakes are all barbless, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:23

They're all barbless too. So you just gotta remember that. They'll tell you that when you're going into these lakes.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

But I guess the most remarkable part about this, aside from the fishing, aside from the boats, uh, aside from the ambience, perfectly uh it's just it's the most pristine environment you can imagine. Aside from all that, uh their meals are just exquisite. Yeah, uh something that they take great pride in. Yeah. Uh really, really truly exquisite meals, whether it's breakfast, lunch, or dinner, which a lot of people do all three because uh if they're fishing the main lake, why hang out there all day long? Come back for lunch, uh, have something to eat, maybe a little nap, go back out for a few hours, come back for supper, maybe a little nap and go back out again. That's that's how easy it is. But aside from all that, the accommodations, some of the accommodations that are available are truly five-star. Uh, we were fortunate enough to experience that the first time, and fortunate enough to experience it this time around. We stayed in one of the, I believe, seven. Um and what they are, they're they're owned by there's seven directors in this company that owns the whole operation, and each one of them uh has built this incredible home that they use a couple of uh weeks per year, and the rest of the time it's part of the inventory that uh Beau Shane rents out, and they truly are nice. Um so nice. It just incredible, incredible is the only way I can describe them. And it's funny because the place that we stayed in was the same place, the Eagle, they call it, the same place that Roland and I stayed in when we first went.

SPEAKER_05 39:11

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Roland and I had that whole place to ourselves. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_05 39:17

Um and they also offer, I know they say they have a shorelunch area, so they must offer shorelunches out there, right? So we saw the area. I just didn't know if they're they offer a shoreline. Yeah, they have they have guides there too.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Yeah, so you have to let them know in advance. You can't just wake up one morning and say, hey, let's do a shorelunch. You have to say, Listen, I'd like to do one shore lunch during my stay or two, because this is a total catch and release uh setup that they have there. Um it's certainly not unique in that area, although I would say it's on a small list of operators that are doing that now. They will not allow you to retain anything, it's just catch and put away.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

It's that good for 25 years, yeah. Still as good as it was 25 years ago. So it's a great rule.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

So we took um eight individuals that had uh from zero fishing experience to yeah, you know, okay, uh regular, you know, once or twice, three times a year anglers kind of thing. So they're we classify for the most part that they were novice anglers. And they had the most incredible time of their lives. We shot it as a show, and that was our intention to see if we could capture those special moments that a group of guys.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

It was a riot. These guys were just characters, they were fun. The fishing was absolutely a lights out, outstanding. Guys that are that didn't even know what side they could reel on for a spinning rig or catching three-pound smallmouth at well. It's like a very cool, very cool experience for them and for us for sure.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

Uh so anyways, they had a little uh competition that uh once again we captured it. It's gonna be a great episode.

SPEAKER_05 41:06

Um and never made a cast. Well, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

You know what I mean? We never made a cast the whole time there. Never, never made a cast. And I don't know about you, but I never had an urge to. I was so into what we were doing there. Yeah, and the whole concept of the episode that you'll see is um uh taking these novice anglers, or or in some cases first-time anglers, and putting them in one of those areas that you dream of going as an avid angler, and seeing if they could quickly come up to speed so that they could get into the catch. Yep. And day one, they proved exactly what we thought the totally inexperienced, fumbling over their their themselves. Uh day one was a bit of a disaster, broken rods, uh, fish not being boated. Uh, we asked everybody to take photographs of their fish so that we could, at the end of it all, tabulate um, you know, the lengths of these fish on a on a measuring board. And uh some of them that went completely out the window as soon as they got their first fish. They were so excited they forgot to take pictures. So at the end of the day, they came in and said, I think I won today because I got you know this, and where's the pictures? Oh. Oops. Oh, yeah. Just kidding. So there was that. But let me tell you, by the end, by the last day that they were on the water, man, the transformation that these guys made. And Pete and I were coaching them, right? That was the whole gist of this. Uh, is that we were there as their mentors, their their coaches, and and bringing them up to speed as quickly as we can. And by the end of it all, by golly, they got it. And they got it real good.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

Yeah, we they were on it, they were on fire. But I'll tell you the best part to me. Cigars and whiskey. Oh, the cigars, uh the oh my god. Who was it? Was it Antonio that set us up with the cigars in the boat? Anthony. Anthony. Oh my god, oh my god, it's a wonderful experience. But but when we got there, and Angie and I did a little uh mission of finding some fish and all that stuff, and we fell in a spot where it was pretty good. It was pretty loaded up. And then we said, okay, guys, we can take like three or four boats in this area. And now here's where you go, and you and you slow down and you do, you know, here's where you fish this, this nice and slow. Every boat either didn't go in there or like through like you could tell that they didn't really they were so excited, I guess, they just didn't want to take the instruction well because we were saying he's looking at me saying, They're they're driving right by these fish.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

There's there's there's they're not even I'll tell you what though, by the last day they were all on point. Very much fun. It was very satisfying for us. It was just you know, it was a really Different shoot for us and our the rest of the by the way I say us uh Nick and Dean were there with us along with Steve. Um and uh it was new it was different for them, I'm sure, as it was for us. Not putting a line in the water whatsoever. Uh what's what's your views, boys?

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Yeah, it was it was odd. It was uh there was definitely some spots there where it was just why aren't we fishing? Um I got pretty nastily sunburned due to just like talk to us about that. Yeah, so that was that was kind of a gross one because we were just sitting in the boat all day, in terms of like what I was doing, because I was doing a lot of drone and more like production assist stuff on this shoe. It well, you're just sitting in a boat. So as you just sit in the boat and you kind of cook and cook and cook and cook.

SPEAKER_05 44:46

Sitting in a boat with with pants that you're unzipped off. He had the pants, he unhapped the pants.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

I did have the pants, I did zip them because it was getting just so damn hot out. So I unzipped them. It was hot, it was stupid hot. So I unzipped them, and then I went, oh, after uh, I want to say an hour, I was like, you know what? Let me put on some sunscreen.

SPEAKER_05 45:05

An hour of pure winter skin.

SPEAKER_03 45:07

Just didn't even think twice about it. Do you know what though? And you know what? Here's the thing my whole life I never burned up until last January, where I got uh a kidney stone and I was on a lot of antibiotics, and ever since then I burned. My whole life before that, I never burned once in my life. It's funny until that moment. And you were the same way, I think, with the Lyme disease medicine, right?

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Yeah, well, it's the antibiotics. Anytime you're on that, you have to be careful how much uh uh UV raise you're exposed to. But you know what? I was just thinking about Pete? We didn't zip off those pants at all. I had long pants the whole trip. The whole trip. And yet you and I have spent the best part of 40 years in t-shirt and shorts on boats. Yeah. Really? Think about it. Oh, or or outdoor journal when we were doing that show. We were we've never wore long pants. And yet I can never, I mean, aside from maybe Mexico the one time, it's all the damn climate change.

SPEAKER_05 46:04

I think my to me to me because I've been going to the dermatologist every six months. He's warned me and warned me and warned me. Uh, I the last four or five years, you probably noticed I don't rarely wear shorts in the last two or three or four seasons, five seasons on on the camera. I don't wear a lot of time now.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

Pre-pandemic, I haven't seen a pair of shorts on a fishing cannibal. Yeah, I just don't wear a shortcut. It's cannibal anymore.

SPEAKER_05 46:24

Yeah, it's kind of odd. Now, now I'm gonna give Nick got a little cement heady on this one, too, because not only did he go an hour of pure white skin out in the nasty sun with his could have put his pant legs back on, but he put you know sunscreen on multiple, but he he he hiked up his legs. Oh, I didn't know. Like he got a G string on out there.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

It was like I knew I was gonna get burnt, so I figured I might as well get burnt right into the fun square, you know, get get it right up to the fun zone versus you know how it's gonna be. Him with those shorts were hiked right up there like that.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

Speaking of Dino, speaking of Dino speaking of Dino, I noticed I just thought of something. Dino Vasalino. How long have you been with us, Dean? I've been with you six years now. Come on now. Come on now. And it's been about that long since I've seen him without a pair of shorts on the boat. And I'm just wondering. I think Pete's feeling emasculated. I think there's something going on there. And I don't know. I'm not, I just I'm just saying because it's coincidental that Oh, I've never said I got uh legs like Charles Atlas, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_05 47:34

I liked your legs. I always enjoyed spending time in the house. He went to his doctor one time. My dad had a really big upper body and skinny ass legs, and he says you got the upper body of Charles Atlas and the lower body of Marilyn Monroe. Is what he said?

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Anyways, it's true. Since you've uh come on board, Peter has been reluctant to show himself. I don't know what the hell that's all about. Before that you came on board, we had to keep throwing stuff on him, cover him up so that he wouldn't, you know, turn around and bend over to the camera and move the camera.

SPEAKER_05 48:08

I might have done that once or twice. Once or twice. I might have even full frontled it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

Anyways, I'm just saying, to interrupt your main question as to what it was like to not fish. Yes. Sorry. Like probably one of the most pretty fishing areas in the world because the Liver Reserve Bochane is just you just gotta watch the episode to see how beautiful this landscape is. Um not being able to fish was the biggest like pain in the ass I think I've ever had to face sort of the sunburn pain on my ass.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Yeah. Yeah. Does that make sense? I for you I I see it didn't uh for me, it never even crossed my mind. We were so we were so into what we were doing, and that is helping and coaching and and overseeing what the group was doing.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

Yeah, and never since I wasn't a part of the uh coaching staff, I was a part of the just sitting around on my ass staff. Well, well it was a pain in the ass.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Well, maybe you know, uh put in another 35 or 36 years, and maybe you too can coach.

SPEAKER_05 49:10

Good. So give me a fishing rod in the meantime. And you gotta be out on the water every day. You can't stay back like uh part-time, like you were on that trip, you know.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

I wasn't part-time. Okay, you want to see part-time? I'll show you part-time. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 49:21

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

Um, I another uh fascinating thing uh about this place that uh I didn't know about. Uh and and certainly the first time I was there 25 years ago, I don't think it was in place yet. But they, and this is a very large operation, uh, they develop their own energy. They are not on the grid.

SPEAKER_04 49:44

Yeah, we I didn't know that the first time we went there.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

So somewhere down the lake, um, I believe to the on the north shore, there is a power plant that they have built using it's a hydroelectricity plant that they have built using the current. Um, I think from one lake to another that has a different elevation because they run this massive tunnel uh from that body of water to this other one that that they run turbines. And so they're uh they produce their own electricity. Good for them. Really good. Once that pays off, then it's one million dollar investment. Yeah, that's not bad for the when you think about in the big picture.

SPEAKER_05 50:27

Uh that's a freaking house here is a million dollars.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

That was he was saying that was 15 years ago. Yeah, they built that. So a million bucks probably was worth three million today.

SPEAKER_05 50:36

But even so, yeah, uh, to be totally self-sufficient when it comes to energy once that's paid off, that investment of that million bucks paid off, that is just perfect for them. You know, even like running these big diesel generators that they have to run in these places, that's expensive, especially the price of diesel right now. Especially if you're flying it in. Yeah. Friggin' nuts.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

Yeah, so it might be something that I think more and more. But uh the difference between this and most operations is that this is a corporate-owned gig. Yeah. And um, most operators, I mean, it's all they can do to keep the lights on. That's right. These guys, yeah, not to worry about it. This is a whole different ballgame. Money is not an issue, and they and it shows there is nothing that's left to the imagination. There is nothing there that you would want, I don't think. Yeah, including uh uh, and I didn't visit it, I normally would, but I was busy uh coaching. Here you go. The the facilities, the workout facilities, the gymnasium, the gymnasium they're very nice.

SPEAKER_04 51:34

You you went to visit it? I did, yeah. I think one of the main members there founded uh good life. No way, yeah. I think he's one of the main guys, so it was all good life equipment. It was awesome. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

Great gym. But everything about them, everything they've done is is just top-notch.

SPEAKER_05 51:50

And that and that power, by the way, we didn't have any flaws in power at all, did we? It was flawless. It was we didn't have any any blackouts, brown outs, anything like that. No, it was good.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

And usually you you do, right?

SPEAKER_05 51:59

Yeah, most places. That was perfect.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

And they have uh electricity on 24-7, so it's not like at night where they turn them off in a lot of places. But um, and it's a drive-to.

SPEAKER_05 52:10

That's that's the easy only like five hours, five and a half hours from Toronto, GTA-ish, like for us, anyways. Pretty close, really.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

So I wanted to end this off, unless we got something else that we need to cover. I wanted to end this story off with my own uh personal history there with uh with the operation and with Tony. The current he's the current manager who is on his way out um and bringing Dimitri, who is the new kid on the block, um, that will be taking over overseeing the whole operation in the next year or two, from what I understand. But anyways, Tony and I had a bit of a rough beginning uh 25 years ago, and I mentioned it on a previous podcast. Um, we we went in uh to shoot a fishing candidate episode, but somehow, and I don't remember the details, uh I got Roland Martin involved to come up from um Florida and to shoot an episode for his series. So he was on mine, I was on his, and and we did this wonderful back to back, and the fishing was just spectacular. And so most of what we shot uh was never going to see uh daylight, in other words, it wasn't gonna be used. And about a year and a half to two years after that shoot, I was in a position where I needed to flush out an episode and I needed some fish just to show some fish. Of course. And it's not unusual in this industry. Um I think this was not certainly not the first time this ever happened in the fishing uh fraternity where you use a fish, if you're talking about pike or muskie or whatever, and through the dialogue, you just need a visual representation of what you're talking about. You'll pull out your best that you've got that year and plop it in.

SPEAKER_05 54:05

No, it's not trying to say pull the wool over your eyes and saying, okay, Angie, that wasn't from there. Is there something go there's a piece that's written that goes with that? Hey, by the way, we were here two years ago, whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

So we did that, and I don't remember the year, but you know, it would have been 25 years ago, obviously. So we did that and used um a few fish from that shoot that we did at Beauce, but didn't say that they were from Beauchane. They were just nondescript locations that were thrown together. Anyways, uh Tony, the then new general manager of Beauchain, saw them and he recognized, I suppose, some features in the shoreline or whatever the case may be. Yeah, he recognized something and he called me out on it, and he called me out big time. And as I explained to him, listen, I yeah, we didn't mention Beauchane because it was inappropriate at that time. We did the Beauchain episodes, and Roland and myself, I think did a wonderful job of depicting this great fishery, this uh Beauce. And uh this was just extra footage that we garnered from our shoot, and we we found a home for it. Well, he didn't quite understand that. Uh it was very upset. He was new at the time, right? He had been on the job for a year or two, and he was very upset. Needless to say, we did not communicate for 25 years, him and I, after that little mishap. And it was that was the highlight of my trip to Beauchain, aside from all those wonderful things that we just talked about, was to be able to, you know, face that demon, not him the demon, but the situation, um, and to kind of be able to talk about it and put it behind us. And I'll never forget now the rest of my life, I'll I'll never forget the parting words that Tony and I had before we left Bow Shane this time. Uh, he said, the only thing I regret is that we lost 25 years of opportunity to over that nonsense. And I agree. So that was it. There you go. Uh, did we miss anything, boys?

SPEAKER_05 56:18

We got our all uh bonus code? Bonus code, bonus code. The boys can put that through. What do you think, boys? Can it can people spell Bow Shane? It's a tough one. It's a good one. It's a good one. Maybe they gotta work a little bit for it, they gotta Google it or something, you know? No accents, Bosane.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

Yeah, no accents, no nothing, just Bochane.

SPEAKER_02 56:37

I'm in. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 56:38

All right, I love it.

SPEAKER_02 56:40

Locked in, locked in. Bochin, if you'd like some bonus entries into uh what are we where are they getting this for?

SPEAKER_03 56:46

What's uh Garmin Echo Map Ultra 2 16 inch super big. I want that. You know, I want that inch.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

It's almost on the verge of being too big. Oh it's that good, it's that big that it's almost too big. Is that even possible? No. Oh God.

SPEAKER_05 57:03

No, once you get used to it, it's perfect. Jesus Christ. No, I'm just saying. I'm talking about the fish man. I don't know what you, you sick son of a bitch. Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 57:14

The way you guys use your words just paints such nasty pictures.

SPEAKER_05 57:18

We're talking about a 16-inch unit. Garmin unit, that is.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

What did happen to those nice cute little eight-inch?

SPEAKER_05 57:31

That's very hard to read now. Those uh I got a 10, I got a 10 uh underneath, that's I got a 12 on the top and a 10 uh for mapping. And it's just enough. A 10 inch is just enough. That's the number you need to go for. You know when you start to get in uh serious, that 10 inch is the starting point for you when you think when you get into that, these Garmin's and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

Will we ever be using a 20-inch screen?

SPEAKER_05 57:52

If Garmin says, hey guys, we just came up with a great little 20-inch uh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and we'd like you to use it, yeah. We're gonna be using it for sure.

SPEAKER_02 57:59

Well, we're gonna see very shortly. You we're gonna be down at iCast here in a few weeks. There you go. And if uh if there's any word of anything new, that'll be cool. 20 inchers will certainly uh you'll get to see the spy pole too, right?

SPEAKER_05 58:11

You haven't seen that yet. So you get to see that in action. That'll be nice.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Anyways, uh, that are it. Uh, if you've got any questions on uh La Reserve Beauchain, please feel free to reach out. I mean, we just touched it's not even a tip of the iceberg of uh what uh what you can expect at this place. It's it's extraordinary. And I didn't mention the one thing that's really incredible is the hospitality, all the stuff. Oh my god. It's just a wonderful, wonderful experience.

SPEAKER_05 58:38

And by the way, it's it's quack Quebec, but it's bilingual. Like they speak great English. Everybody there speaks great English.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

So I didn't even was there anybody there that wasn't yes, there was one person that was, you know, not a hundred percent. Oh, is that right? Yeah. Okay. One the one woman that uh was trying to help Stevie take the trailer or boat trailer off the back of the truck that was locked on. Yeah, and neither one of them. Yeah, you can't remove it when this is a lock on the belt. There you go. That's a whole other story.

SPEAKER_05 59:08

Yeah, okay, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 59:09

That'll it, folks. Don't forget Boshane is the magic code word that you can get uh extra ballots uh for the great Garmin 16 inch unit that uh is up for grabs. Is it it's coming up soon, Dean?

SPEAKER_04 59:24

Or uh it'll be drawing in August. So uh I think by the time this comes out, everyone has about four weeks.

SPEAKER_03 59:30

August 15th at 3 p.m. Wonderful. And are we doing that live by any chance? We could. That that requires some um confirmation from uh our bosses. Well, let's see if we can get a team meeting or something, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:44

I'm sure. Team meeting we shall have. We can influence them somehow. Uh on behalf of the entire crew here, uh Nikki B. Uh Dean Taylor um Beaurod, uh I'm Angela Viola. Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you soon. This episode of Outdoor Journal Radio has been brought to you in part by the Invasive Species Center, protecting Canada's land and water from invasive species. Freedom Cruise Canada, rent the boat, own the memories, and J and B cycle a marine, your home for all things power sports, boats, and equipment.