Kristine Dizon grew her virtual school from a sole venture to a ten-teacher academy in less than a year. The Music and Langauge Learning Center is immersive, effective, and fun for students and staff alike.
In this live episode of Lifelong Educators, we’ll dive into:
Kristine Dizon is just beginning her growth in the virtual education space. Join us as she shares stories, ideas, and advice to help us do the same.
Kristine Dizon grew her virtual school from a sole venture to a ten-teacher academy in less than a year. The Music and Langauge Learning Center is immersive, effective, and fun for students and staff alike.
In this live episode of Lifelong Educators, we’ll dive into:
Kristine Dizon is just beginning her growth in the virtual education space. Join us as she shares stories, ideas, and advice to help us do the same.
All right. We're excited to have Christine dyes on with us today on the lifelong educators show. She is the founder of muted music and language learning center dies on, started out as a professional musician and an in-person educator before switching to the virtual world. Just last year in today's episode, we'll dive into the house and the why's behind Dyson's work. How she successfully started a virtual music school and language school in such a short timeframe. Why did her company grow so quickly? We always want to know that. What kind of advice can she offer to others who are looking to do the same? We're excited to hear Christine's fascinating story and grow as course creators ourselves. So listen closely to hear her experiences, ideas, and advice. I am sure it'll carry you closer to the goals you've set for your own online course. So welcome Christine to the show. How are you?
Kristine Dizon:I'm good. Thank you for having me here to.
Joshua Chernikoff:Yeah. Awesome. Dotan flying side-by-side again. How are you?
Dotan Tamir:Perfect. We're almost at 20 shows. We are, uh, excited to be the, here it
Joshua Chernikoff:is. It's flying by. It's great. You know, but every show is a little bit different and I think, uh, you know, Christine's story is super interesting. Um, for many, many reasons we'll get into those, but the first one, um, is that a lot of the folks that we've talked to. Pivoted, they went from one thing to another. It seems like, you know, Christine, as you landed in the virtual space, you didn't just pivot you pivoted and you push, and you've got a lot of success. And I think because we're in a community of helping others, people are really gonna want to hear about that. So get us up to speed on what you've done. You've been all over the world, playing the clarinet, but then please get as quickly to your business.
Kristine Dizon:Oh, for sure. So, um, well, first of all, thank you for having me here. I'm really excited to share my story, uh, with everyone. Uh, essentially what happened was, uh, during the time of the pandemic had started. Around March, 2020, I believe. Um, everything just started shutting down. Uh, you know, uh, different concerts were being closed. Uh, people were not able to be in the space. And so one of the things that I had done was I made a little list of things that I was good at things that I could do, uh, things that I've already. And I wanted to be able to combine those passions together. And so essentially that's how the music and language center, uh, started to be coming together. And I had done it as a single teacher. So I was the only one teaching all of my classes. I had written out all of my class materials and things like that. And then, um, eventually what happened was then. Started needing help. I had been teaching 16 hours per day during the pandemic for about four or five months. And I realized that actually there, I needed to have a balance. And while I'm, I can be a very particular person about how I want to do things and how I see how things should be done. I realized that this is a point of my life. I needed to have help and being able to make it so that the classes were not just available during the times that I was awake or, uh, the times that, uh, students had available throughout the short period of time, but being able to expand, uh, the time offerings that we have. So I had had. Uh, two teachers initially, uh, for the Spanish classes, because that had been, uh, in demand. And what I had done was eventually expanded to, uh, hire another French teacher who also teaches music, um, being able to hire another Portuguese teacher, uh, and different topics that, uh, we, we teach. And so, uh, for me, It it's one of those things that I want to focus, emphasize the quality of the work that I do. I have very high standards. You can ask my staff of, of what I expect, you know, and, uh, the thing is with that, those expectations and being able to trust my teachers to be able to do the job that they do has actually. Influence that type of growth, or you could say inspired growth because of the fact that I do trust them. And the thing is I also have to make sure that I give them the tools that they need to be successful. And I, yeah. So that's that in a nutshell, I guess.
Dotan Tamir:That one's easy. Right. But no, yeah. I know how hard it is. Uh, as, as somebody, as someone who has built this kind of education business with, I think at the peak of my, uh, educational company, we had 200 instructors. Right. So. Um, how do you keep the high standards when you have 200 instructors, how to give them the tools? This is, is, uh, it's almost the same with 10 teachers and 200 teachers. It's a little bit of different hierarchy and organizational structure. Um, but you have to develop a lot of sewers. So you didn't just pivot from playing a clarinet to teaching and then. Uh, and then hiring staff. You also develop your skills from teaching to managing, to monitoring, to customers support, I guess like we actually had to develop a lot of that as well. It's not just teaching them.
Kristine Dizon:Yes. And also too, it's a trial by error, I guess you could say. So for example, uh, there's always that type of customer service element that's involved. And so one of the things that I've learned is that, okay, so if I have a class that needs three students, uh, to. Minimum three students. And I'm not able to meet that in two weeks then, depending on my availability, then I would pick up that section. So it's one of those things that, to be able to engage those families, to be able to not frustrate them, because if it's a class that they genuinely want to take, they're really excited. Like I want to take this class. Right. But then. When it gets delayed, then I've learned that, okay, if I'm going to give it two weeks to fill, then if it doesn't feel, if I'm available to do it, then I will teach it. If I'm not available to do it, then I'm going to provide them the refund that they deserve, because I'm not able to provide a service for them, depending on the availability of the other teachers.
Joshua Chernikoff:Yeah, this is a music to Dotan in my ears in terms of my experience running education and education business, uh, in the Richmond space. Um, and for Dotan camp, you know, is it going to run? Is it not? How long get the refunds back? Make sure they're happy, but, um, you know, I think I'm, I'm smelling something here. You mentioned a list balance. Trust tools, trial by error. You really sound like an entrepreneur. And then when I look at your bio, you're doing CDs and you just published a book and you're traveling pretty soon all over the country, the US to record. So talk about how you balance all that stuff, uh, because you, I think you're entrepreneur
Kristine Dizon:Oh, well, thank you. All right. The thing is, it's a matter of being able to prioritize. I feel like the things that need my attention, um, but also to being able to delegate certain tasks. So I do have a small staff They're small, but they're mighty. I always say. that Um, in the fact that they're very efficient, uh, very nice people, genuinely kind people who really want to see the MLLC grow. And so a lot of the time, for example, when, we focus on development and we focus on growth, you know, being able to achieve organic growth or through social media, whether it be Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, uh, it's just a matter of being able to delegate certain tasks. So a lot of the things that I know. That I need to do that. I need to address like really serious problems, uh, are things that I address directly. Now. There are certain things like with core email correspondence. So my assistant, I hope you're listening to this. She, so she answers we've received like around maybe close to a hundred on average emails per day. 100 emails for, for me to write a thoughtful response to someone takes a lot of time. And it's one of those things that I tell her. Okay, well, what we're going to do is create a template of different types of responses that we would need to provide. If we need to delay a class, this is a response that we have. If we need to, uh, if someone has an emergency, we have another response. And so we found a way to not automate it, but to make. Work as a machine, as a whole. So that way we're able to also have them have the families, excuse me, have the families feel like there's that type of connection that we are responding right away, uh, and being able to connect with them and to answer any questions that they might have about any of the course offerings that we have.
Dotan Tamir:you know, you're talk, you're talking about, about, uh, about so many, uh, students and clients, and you started this during the pandemic. Have you ever met any of your clients in person or is it all fully online?
Kristine Dizon:Actually? Oh, a couple of months ago, I did a to bring an instrument. So I brought an instrument from, uh, that I had helped purchase for one of my students, actually two students. And I brought them with me to California. So for example, I had a student who does well not had, I still have her. She's amazing. She wakes up at 6:00 AM to have lessons. 6:00 AM. And so I said, okay, this kid needs to have an instrument. So I actually flew all the way to California to be able to bring it to her and actually show her what she needs to do with it. And with another student that I have there. And, uh, it's, it's one of those things. Yeah. It just melts your heart when you see them. Sometimes I actually, I make jokes. I said, well, I imagine that you would be taller because, you know, in the zoom screen, it's like this, I've heard that one before.
Joshua Chernikoff:You know,
Kristine Dizon:they, they, they, they, they actually, it's actually really nice and being able to share, um, time with them in that way that you connect with them on that level. That was really cool for me. That was really.
Joshua Chernikoff:One of the things you said, you know, and you kind of shied away from it a little bit was the automation part, you know, and maybe, maybe you don't want to say automated. Maybe you want to say just you're being more efficient, which is fine. So can you talk about, um, Um, your use of out school, our friends at our school have built a big business and, you know, it's all community of online learners, whether it's at school or it's cooked to whatever we're all in this together. So can you talk about for other people, how you leveraged, um, the power of out school?
Kristine Dizon:Yeah, for sure. You know, I actually got hired at out school in 2016. And it was like one of those things that the whole online learning thing, I wasn't sure wasn't familiar with it. And so I actually was hired by Nick Randi. Who's one of the founders of the organization. Right. So then throughout the time I didn't have that business mindset. of Okay. I need to do this to build my business. I actually had used out school in a way of being able to purchase things that I needed for my clarinet. Right. So whether it was like reeds uh, ligatures music, I, used that income that I was generating from that Side hustle. You could say, uh, that turned into a bigger hustle. I don't know if that's the correct term about it, uh, and said, okay, so this is, what I'm going to use this for. Now during that time also, I was doing my PhD studies in Portugal, um, where I had won a grant of through the Portuguese, uh, science and technology. So that funded, helped fund my. studies for those four years. So it was one of those things that I was using it as like a side gig, but then when the pandemic hit was when I was like, okay, what I'm going, what am I going to do? How am I going to work? How am I going to, uh, be able to do. this And that's when I started focusing my attention and, uh, work and being able to develop this. That's been asked
Dotan Tamir:about your, your work there and other places, uh, from different angles. So I know from, from our previous conversation that, uh, you, you also, uh, work with other organizations, right? You, you, you run classes for it for more organizations that. Probably, um, those business channels that you built organically through your network and through your, um, presence in, in this, in this space. So, um, how do you do that? Well, how do you build, uh, more audiences, um, except of what outskirt provides as a, as a marketing channel, how do you really build. Business in terms of finding new audiences, recruiting them, doing all this customer acquisition work.
Kristine Dizon:Yeah. It's actually, uh, that's been a focus of what I've been trying to do for the. Three weeks a month or so, um, in regards to expanding with the database that we already have. So we had started with being able to make a list of charter schools. So there is quite a bit of research involved. So for example, listing all the charter schools in California, all the charter schools here, and being able to understand and read data and patterns and being able to read. Uh, two principals of those schools, uh, two different directors of those institutions and being able to say, uh, I'm currently offering this et cetera and so forth. There are times however that we get responses, like really nice responses. Like, yeah, it would be really great if you could provide. Uh, a Spanish class for 15 kids and I would say, okay, well, I just have to adapt it just because the classes that we do offer are currently for a small group, but then I just have to adapt the, uh, content. So that way it can be accessible to, uh, 15 students, for example. Um, in addition to that, uh, there's a lot of, uh, things with, uh, Facebook, which is currently what we're developing at the MLC, uh, database that includes. Uh, Areas like, uh, New York, uh, Massachusetts, uh, and being able to build the database from there of, uh, reaching out to different health homeschool, uh, communities co-ops, uh, being able to, uh, create content. On our Facebook page, a tick, we have a tick tock now, right? Uh, I'm really proud of that way. There
Joshua Chernikoff:was a ladder,
Kristine Dizon:there was a ladder to research involved in that, um, you know, being able to understand. Uh, the audience, how the audience views tick talk, the attention span of those. I mean, there's just so there's quite a lot involved and so it's, we're still developing it. We're still developing the database and being able to have, it's not just have it be a one-time thing, but having it be a gradual process, uh, over the next, uh, several years. And
Dotan Tamir:when we, so once we meet in, um, in three years from now, um, you're gonna have you have, you're going to be focused more on your new B2B business, basically given those, uh, um, that content, those courses to organizations, or are you still going to be focusing on the smaller groups, uh, with the small audience or maybe big audience today that you have an outskirt or other.
Kristine Dizon:Well, I w the way I see things over the next several years, I, actually firmly do believe that online learning is going to stay. Um, and I feel like. As a whole we've adapted really well to it. And there's actually a lot of benefits that you could, you could get from it, not just because of the pandemic, but, uh, being able to watch recordings over again. I never had that as a kid. I would have loved to have that part, you know, being able to watch class recordings multiple times to make sure I didn't miss any information during those, uh, Class time meetings, uh, being able to connect with different people across the world. I mean, there's so many advantages in being able to learn about different cultures from different, uh, areas of the world. And for me, that's something that's been really enriching and really surprising. I mean, I've had students from, uh, Abu Dhabi. I've had students from Dubai, I've had students from, all these really cool places. You know, I, just feel that with the continued development, I mean, I will have to probably teach less classes, uh, if I want to see more growth. But the thing is, if I give the tools that I've learned and the lessons that I've learned, like throughout this whole ordeal, then I think I'll be able to better equip the teachers that currently work with. me To be cut to, to be able to say, okay, this is for you, I'm trusting you with this. And I hope that you can make this. grow
Joshua Chernikoff:That's nice. and the team make fun of me because I do print out articles to read them. I sound like my dad, but I do. And here's one of them. It's called the unexpected benefits of online music lessons, and more time to focus on music, easy connectivity to music, software forces, students to dig deeper into their musical training and make group lessons easy. Is any one of those pop out at you as like that's the real reason? That this is going to be successful. Now, online music. Did any of those pop out at.
Kristine Dizon:Yes, I would definitely say the idea of assessability and actually the idea of group lessons. Uh, one of the things that I'm working on right now is creating it, uh, a secret synchronous, uh, content. So for example, being able to record certain aspects of like, okay, this is how you play a scale. Okay. This is how you, uh, put the clarinet together or. It's simple, simple topics that don't take too long and being able to provide an opportunity for students, uh, to develop the skills that they need to play their instrument, have them the opportunity. To be able to record themselves, you know, it could be with an iPhone or it could be with an Android or what have you, and to be able to send it to the instructor. So for example, if I have a student who is in California, for example, and they are eight hours behind me, then I can listen to the recording whenever I want and be able to provide thoughtful feedback. And I've actually noticed that with online lessons, if you know what you're doing, That's the thing. If you know what you're doing, there can be a lot of growth
Joshua Chernikoff:for sure. We'll talk more about that. What do you mean if you know what you're doing? How do you know if you know, if you don't
Kristine Dizon:so, for example, like sometimes, uh, with, uh, it depends, for example, with the, uh, device that you have the hard part about online music lessons is the fact that you have to have a good microphone. So for example, if the microphone on the device itself is not working, so. Then I would suggest, okay. It would be good for you to purchase this microphone. Uh, it's not expensive. It's only$19 that you could get from Amazon really easy. Uh, being able to understand how to use the zoom space. So for example, uh, with the feature of being able to share. Right. Okay. This is what I would like for you to do. Can you please, uh, play this music? Right. So to share a score or to be able to highlight certain points of what they need to do to focus actually their attention. Now, I always have to remind my students and say, well, make sure you're write it in pencil because the thing is when I'm sitting next to them and I'm listening to them, play. I do it myself, right. Especially with younger kids. Now that said when it's online, I hold them accountable on a different level because of the fact that I can't circle everything for them, I can circle on the screen. I can show them what it looks like, what they need to focus on what they need to improve, but it's up to them to make sure they remind themselves.
Joshua Chernikoff:So that your mind must be firing on all cylinders right now
Dotan Tamir:know that, first of all, I completely agree that the, the, uh, methodologies, the educational methodologies are key to having a successful online course online education, especially with all the available tools that are out there. You mentioned just the screenshare, but there are even more available, more tools available and they will become more and more sophisticated and it will bring more and more opportunities as, as the years passes, uh, passed by. Um, it reminds me when we started at a big idea before click two existed, we. We had to develop everything ourselves to deliver those coding and animation and, and other, uh, classes online. And, um, we had to think, uh, put ourselves in the mind of the kid in front of the screen and think, okay, so how do we keep them engaged? How do we keep them on top of this? How, how is it interactive? It's not just, it's not the same, like sitting in a, in a. In the class and the brick and mortar class, it has some, some of the things you have to rethink. And there are also some more opportunities online for, for many of those things. I do. I do hear from you, Christine, um, that there, there were many challenges, um, in, in, in, in your learning from trying and, um, and you keep developing and keep overcoming the challenges. Um, Now that you think in about. Growing, you're trying to connect with organizations with schools, you trying to build that kind of stuff. Do you feel that you have all the tools, everything you need or you're you're saying to yourself, well, first I'll find a business, then I'll find them. I understand the challenges, then I'll find the tools and do, and do you already have some of those challenges in mind that you will. Maybe, maybe our audience may be on the Facebook group every day. We'll have some answers for you.
Kristine Dizon:Uh, for sure. I, uh, for me, I actually embrace challenges and I I'm a very, I'm very much a visual person. So I always like to kind of chart out the things that have. I need to do, uh, and being able to see the, how I can map out my path. Um, so right now with where we are, I mean, uh, we, we, we have been doing well, uh, at the MLC and, uh, it's just a matter of being able to also look at data and being able to make sure I'm methodical and efficient. So the moment that I lose that type of focus, then, okay, well then I'm going to have to accept. They're going to be consequences to that, but in regards to these different aspects, I mean, again, I think it also has to go into this idea of being able to prioritize the most important thing in that moment, especially with, you know, this type of growth, uh, and being able to develop. For example, the social media campaign that we're, we're doing, uh, being able to connect to different audiences, doing research on finding, uh, organizations and things like that. So I mean, the challenges that I could foresee or that I, you know, people aren't as responsive to it because they may not see music or language courses as something that is absolutely necessary, they might say, okay, well, step. The whole thing right now, type of thing. And it depends on the administrator. There's some people that see, oh, there's value. And the thing is with the MLC, I've carefully have spent hours creating content that. I would've loved to have when I was a kid. So for example, kids have an opportunity to learn about music, history, music theory. They have a chance to learn about ear training. Uh, we're developing courses and orchestration being able to, well, obviously, uh, with instrument lessons, uh, they're able to have that base. And I know for a fact that, uh, students that I've had private students I've had in the past that have actually been my Guinea pig. I don't want to say in regards to testing the material and seeing how effective it is, I have actually done really well and have tested out, uh, out of first year, second year music theory, because they had that when they were a kid. So it's one of those things that. I mean, I guess I, hopefully that answered your question
Joshua Chernikoff:and those are some very lucky Guinea pigs, uh, because they're taking clarinet from a world renowned musician who seems like a super nice person. Um, so, you know, lucky for them to be able to do that. I have a question for you because I know. Uh, Towton, you know, we, we also, we talk about education of course, and teaching and all that stuff, but then I always kind of also want to talk about the entrepreneurial part, as you can tell, tell us how much of your musical training and how much you, how you approached that. Then when you were younger to now has influenced, helped maybe. hurt Your ability to start and grow this business?
Kristine Dizon:Well, I would probably say the soft skills that I developed as a musician and the idea of making connections, uh, being able to connect with people in a genuine and meaningful way, uh, because the thing is no one's gonna want to work with you if they don't like you To simply put, I mean, and that's the thing. And. I found that being able to, uh, communicate in a professional way, in a genuine way. I mean, I get to my point, if I, when I want, when I want to communicate something really important, but being able to, uh, have that with my teachers. So, I mean, for example, uh, we had a really interesting, uh, training session, whereas I involved, uh, I involved them all together So I had all of the language teachers. I had all of the music teachers together in one zoom. So it was like all these little squares. And one of the things that we had done is we, you know, I wanted to engage with them and say, okay, what do you want to see? Or what are your goals with the MLLC Right? And so they each shared, you know, a small thing of what they wanted for. You know, uh, from the MLLC what they hope to see, whether it's like more courses per, uh, related to their specialty, right. Uh, type of thing. So that takes time for development right now. that said With having that music part, the skills that I learned as a musician, I also had that type of discipline and that type of discipline of being able to say, okay, this is a standard, this is what needs to be done. Uh, this is what I want to see now because of those aspects, the training was actually really fun because I showed them a couple of things, what they needed to do. But at the same time, after the training, the expectation is All right. So I, now that, you know, XYZ of what we had gone through in our meeting, this holds you more accountable for the work that you do for me. So in regards to the type of expectations, because I, as a musician, we have those expectations. I have to make sure that I, study that. I learn my music. As well as I can, but at the same time, being able to make time for that. And so, uh, with the connections of that, that, I mean, those are the things I, don't see any actually cons in regards to being a musician and building my business. I really don't. I I've actually seen more. Benefits from, that. But each person's different, you know? I mean, I've just been lucky to have really great teachers in my life that have influenced me to become the person I am today.
Dotan Tamir:Listen. Um, um, sometimes if it hits me almost every show, uh, I'm trying to roll the time back five years ago, six years ago, and say to myself, if, if I was to watch this conversation six years ago, And looking at those people, speaking about those people in boxes on the screen, teaching music live, that would be science fiction, not, not even a, a, a movie that I would believe to. So the, the world has changed so much in five to six years, especially during the pandemic and. Then I always try to think. All right. So what about five, six years ahead? What's what's coming up in five, six is what's. How is that gonna look like? Uh, for sure. We're going to go back to this video and see Christine talking about her small, medium business, you know, and she'll be a, multi-billionaire running a K classes for kids all around the globe to, I dunno, a hundred countries. But, but how will we see that through the metaverse in virtual reality? Is it going to stay the same or are we going back to in person? What do you, do you have any thoughts about that?
Kristine Dizon:Well, I think, well, I mean, that was, that was quite a bit, I, I can only imagine what I would tell myself 10 years ago. Hey Christine, by the way, this is what you did. And I would have said. Really I did all of that. There's something to look forward to in 10 years, you know, I would, I would probably say, um, it was the future of learning. I mean, the, there are always those social benefits, you know, of that connection of being able to share the same space, like physical space, you know, with, with someone. But at the same time, I felt. With online learning and I continued to learn online. I, I take. Courses when I can I ask questions? I'm always asking questions of, from different people about what they do, what works for them, what didn't work, and it's trying to filter, what can I get from those conversations with people? Having that applied to what I do, uh, in regards to, uh, maybe in five years, you know, maybe they'll, there'll be hybrid models that will become standard. That will be part of education. Um, maybe in 10 years, maybe we're just online, you know? I mean, but I, I definitely, I am definitely confident that, uh, online learning. Is going to, um, maintain its sustainability. Uh, even though I know people prefer, you know, sometimes in-person activities, you know, so
Joshua Chernikoff:true truth be told I used to call it Totani and I haven't in a while future man and future man just revealed himself on this show and always helpful to have future man come in and I know. Your future Christine and dog. I know you guys are talking tomorrow. Um, I think you guys are going to have very interesting conversation, um, because I truly believe, that Christine, you, you know, your training and music is going to serve you so well and building a business. Uh bolt-on and I have done this a couple of times and you can spot entrepreneurs that, that are gonna make it cause they got. Um, and as you build, you're going to need new tools, uh, for scaling. And otherwise you're going to spend time trying to figure those things out when you're should be thinking and building. So you guys are going to have a great conversation tomorrow about cook too. Uh, I was wondering if you could just talk to us as we get towards the end here. Cause we, I think we kind of glossed over. But just tell us about your, the future of your career in music, you know, because you also are, as I've said, a couple of times a world-class musician, so what's, what's your future in terms of music, which is, I think your first. For now
Kristine Dizon:before maybe, maybe, maybe tomorrow it'll be something else. No, I, I business right now. Um, so I mean, with the future of, of what I do, um, the thing is I'm really passionate about learning and doing, and, you know, I am not saying that, oh, you know, I have this XYZ on the bucket list, but. I want to be able to, uh, continue to grow my business or the music and language learning center, uh, and hopefully be able to expand, uh, and become more present in different continents. That's for sure. And I, uh, I never realized honestly, uh, Josh Dalton, that I. Would have done this like three years ago or even four years ago, I would have never imagined myself doing this. Um, but also to being able to do things in higher education, that's also something that I've been really passionate about. Um, I've taught in Macau in 2018 and I really loved, I really loved it. I taught a module on sound production and it was one of those things that, you know, being able to connect. Uh, older students was something that was really cool for me too. And so my genuine, my genuine goal is to make this type of music, education, um, widely accessible and available to people, um, and being able to do that in a meaningful way, uh, and being able to create connection. And continue playing the clarinet. Of course. Yeah.
Joshua Chernikoff:Okay. You have an important conversation in the future tomorrow that I think will be very interesting. We'll all want to hear about it. Um, don't tell you got any, any final words here, any sweet final music you want to make?
Dotan Tamir:Music. Well, I learned to play the keyboard, like when I was in first grade and since then I didn't have a chance. So I'm probably after tomorrow is a meeting. I'm going to go on your website and see if there's any, uh, course that I can join. I like if you teach to you. Not that I'm, I'm, I'm considered myself as an adult, but by the way, do you, do you teach adults as well? Is it, is it something that you're looking into, um, adding,
Kristine Dizon:well, I do have a couple of clients, uh, private clients who are adults and I, yeah. I mean, I'm hoping to expand it. Uh, we've recently created a course. Spanish for adults. So for example, we, right now, our most popular class is Spanish for young learners. Then I created Spanish for younger learners, right. Ages five through seven. Right. I know I was like, Christine, that was that's amazing. And then I have Spanish for adults. And so, uh, we it's it's recently, uh, being launched. So I'm hoping to be able to expand it to. Um, it's just, there's some, there's a lot of research that I need to do in regards to bringing enrichment also to, you know, like nursing homes and things like that.
Dotan Tamir:Right, right. Yeah. That's just a, it's a whole different space. It's a whole big space. I think that is still untouched in many ways. Um, and, uh, we're, we're, you know, we'll be here to explore it together. Um, cause this is very interesting to us as click to as well to explore. Every space that can benefit from this new medium of live learning experiences. So this is, this is what we focused. I think we learned a lot from you today and got inspired. Um, I can speak for myself, but I know by Josh's eyes that he would agree. Um, we can go on and on. Definitely, definitely. Um, Yeah, this is very inspiring. Uh, um, and, and think it, oh, you also gave us some great tools and expert tips, um, really, really specific. And I'm sure that the community will be, uh, happy about that. And, uh, you know, we'll probably cut it into small, uh, clips, video clips that, uh, will help others to also be in this space. And, and as we always say, uh, There's no competition really. There's, there's a community and opportunity for so many organizations to be other. So as, as more organizations become bigger and more experts in deliver great products and services and, and courses and education, it's better for all of us. Uh, so thank you very much for being, uh, an important part of this. And, um, we'll see you in the community. Yeah,
Kristine Dizon:thank you very much.
Joshua Chernikoff:That's the way to hammer this home. Uh, there is no competition. I agree, but there are good people. And, um, we're lucky enough to come across to what you can tell through the camera. And that's an important thing when you're doing online courses is a good person who's passionate and knowledgeable, and that you clearly are so welcome to our community. Uh, please tell more people to join so we can all kind of, you know, we're in this together, uh, teaching online. Um, value what we've done in the in-person space, but also recognize the ability to teach online as well and reach new new groups of people. So thank you for joining us today, Tom. Thank you for bringing out future man for us. We all appreciate that. Um, and, uh, we'll, we'll catch up soon. Thank you everybody. Have a great.