The future of the educator has moved online, as virtual courses allow them to teach anyone at any time from anywhere. But securing, training, and certifying the world’s best teachers has proven to be quite the challenge on the academy side.
That’s why we’ve gathered experts and members of 2022’s ASU+GSV Elite 200 to share how to:
Our panel of experts includes:
You do not want to miss this incredible event and the critical lessons it will deliver. Especially if you’ll be attending ASU+GSV, as all panelists are members of this year’s Elite 200!
The future of the educator has moved online, as virtual courses allow them to teach anyone at any time from anywhere. But securing, training, and certifying the world’s best teachers has proven to be quite the challenge on the academy side.
That’s why we’ve gathered experts and members of 2022’s ASU+GSV Elite 200 to share how to:
Our panel of experts includes:
You do not want to miss this incredible event and the critical lessons it will deliver. Especially if you’ll be attending ASU+GSV, as all panelists are members of this year’s Elite 200!
Welcome everyone to our special event. Focusing on the future of the online educator today, we'll talk about the new role of the online educator, exciting opportunities for current teachers who could actually become an online educator and the tools that are required for successful online teaching. Plus. We're going to chat about the upcoming ASU GSV conference. Why bring up ASU GSV Well all of these fine people. Our panelists are elite 200 finalists heading into the conference. So that's very interesting. Make the most of your time, please hear The chat is the perfect place to network with others and maybe even make some new friends. We've all done it. here Please use the Q and a box. So our panelists can easily field your questions. Don't forget, actually, to switch the box above where your chat from panelists and attendees to everyone. So everyone can see your conversations. It's a community. Please be sure also to join our Facebook community of cohort based learners and inventor. So before we get to talking, what we should do is meet Dotan Tamir. He's the CEO of Clickto and he's actually my co-host as well.
Dotan Tamir:DT. Welcome. Hello. Hello. Happy to be here. Thanks. Thanks to all the great panelists that have joined us. today Yeah,
Joshua Chernikoff:totally. Can you believe it? And we'll all talk about this, but two weeks from now, we're all going to be in San Diego at this major conference, which is going to be very exciting. So for now, Dotan, anything you want to talk about in terms of the online educator to kick us off?
Dotan Tamir:Online educator. Well, this is going to be an interesting discussion here. I spoke to all the panelists, so I know, and, um, I think we are in a very unique point in time where education is how they say it in the conference. It's on the edge. Things are shaking and moving in this space. Everyone can now become an educator, educators role. Is changing and the learner, has different demands. So a lot of other things that are happening and, um, I think each panelist here today has a different point of view, on that change. So that will be interesting. Okay, well,
Joshua Chernikoff:let's get going. We are first going to kind of explain how this whole thing is going to work. The way we do this is that we have our panelists. We give them a question. They have a few minutes to answer and then Dotan or anybody is going to kind of push back. Of course, as Tom pointed out, before we came on the air here, they, anybody can disagree. We're good with disagreements. That's all good here. That encourages the learning and the discussion. We're going to start. A little bit out of the way I had had planned this, but we're going to start with Isaac, Elena COVID because, Isaac's got to run. He's going to have to explain why he's got to run, but Isaac is a serial entrepreneur currently focused on his app. One question which requires kids to answer a grade level curriculum aligned. To access screen time. So, Isaac, I'm going to give you your question and then of course, you're gonna have to explain why you gotta run what new opportunities has online learning brought to educators in terms of reach and career you are on the clock.
Isaac Elnekave:Thanks, mate And, and a pleasure to be here. I think in order to sort of answer that question, at least for me, I sort of step back and step back in terms of thinking What is an educator? Is it a teacher? Is it a subject matter expert? Is it a tutor? Because I think that in the era of online education, we're looking to completely redefine what we think of as educators. And a lot of that is being fueled by the creator economy, which in 2021 alone received nearly$1.3 billion in funding. That's almost three times more than 2020. And what we're finding is that teachers are no longer limited to the four walls of a classroom or are bound by the pedigree or the degree that they received at university. Maybe they don't even hold a degree. The reality is the teachers, educators subject matter experts are building their own brand and are looking for platforms. That can help them reach their potential and reach future students locally and globally. So I think that what we're seeing with the rise of the creator economy and the rise of online teaching of online learning is the ability for teachers to reach a much wider platform. And engage with students all over the world and in doing so begin to find ways to monetize their IP in ways that, we just did not think was possible in the past. A good example is, 1Question Whereas you say kids answer and engage with educational content in order to earn screen time, I've got three kids. So I know and I've experienced screen time is a a major. issue For families and for parents. Um, and what we've done is we've figured out a way to gamify screen time where teachers or for us subject matter experts, tutors, tour guides are able to create micro educational courses. that kids engage with answer assessment questions and in doing so are able to earn screen time. So we're really sort of blending the concept of. The educational creator, economy and education, along with making screen time more productive. We're not alone in this space. I think that, we've all seen the rise of cohort based learning. So this is a super exciting time for educators globally because the opportunities to find and leverage new platforms are just beginning to bubble to the surface Thanks for. Thanks for that question.
Joshua Chernikoff:Totally. There's actually a comment here. From one of the panelist here, he's an Austin. He or she is an Austin. I think kids get trained to rely on screen time. Kids didn't need screens before they existed. What do you think?
Isaac Elnekave:Well, I think that's factually correct. You know, I didn't need a kit. I didn't need a screen when I grew up. Um, but the reality is that kids today are born with screens and screen time is not the problem. The problem is unproductive screen time because screens are here to stay and we're just going to use them more and more. And I'm guilty just as much as my daughters are guilty Of wasting time on my screen. And so what 1Question looks to do is not to eliminate screen time, but we're looking to do is to push in more productive moments into your screen, time usage, as we push in more productive moments, because time is fixed. Something's got to give and what tends to give is unproductive time.
Dotan Tamir:We see that also, from the Clickto perspective where we. Help companies run live experiences for kids or cohort based experiences for kids learning experiences. We see that perfectly and how kids can turn their screen time into an actually a social time and growth and learning and interaction with other kids with the same mindset. Or different mindsets. I, agree with you completely as parents really appreciate productive screen time. I think parents still need to get more educated about what their kids are doing on the screen. Not always they know, to evaluate what is a productive screen time, what is not, not everything that looks productive is actually productive and, and vice versa.
Joshua Chernikoff:Laura is the founder of smart test prep, an AI based platform that provides college advice and counseling test prep services, and more to international students. She's in Kazakhstan. She's also on the move, but she's going to be here for the, for the full discussion here, because she's headed to the states for our ASU GSV conference. Laura, your question, how is AI transforming the online teachers' role? You're on the clock. You got three minutes.
Laura Vaigorova:Thank you, Josh for the question. Well, the first and the main thing that AI is doing right now it is filling in the gap between learning and teaching. AI offers personalization. We all know that efficiency and it streamlines admin works. For example, in our case, what we're trying to do is not to launch a fully automated AI based learning, but AI assisted learning so that AI can adapt, um, to every student's needs free up the teacher's time by streamlining administrative tasks. And you know much more? There are so many things that AI can do, for example, Right now, what we are trying to do is to, uh, free up the teacher's time in order to create a personalized learning plan. This is what our platform is about. It builds a personalized learning plans for a lot of students for more than 500 Students monthly and it is all done by an AI based learning system. So the teacher does not have to, spend all of his time doing that and only spend his time teaching because want it or not for now, AI cannot fully replace, human interaction, fully replace teachers. So I do believe that AI could help, normalize. The fact that the teacher does not have to deal with administrative work and spending time on class prep, but only on teaching. Uh, so yeah, that would be my answer. I hope it answers your question.
Joshua Chernikoff:That absolutely shows how AI can transform the online teacher's role. Uh, don't tell him, we talked about this yesterday. What do you, what do you think about it?
Dotan Tamir:You know, I always believe in human interaction. That's my perspective. I'm a little worried about how AI, can replace, maybe too much of human interaction. We don't want the kids to grow. By talking to robots, whites. We want them to talk to each other, even if the robot has all the knowledge and can teach us everything. We, I think we learn better by interacting with each other. I don't think it's contradicting what Laura is saying. I'm just saying that, I'm looking at the worrying sides of things. And of course I agreed that AI can help the educator and, teachers, The basically taken over, they're unproductive time or the time that they spend on things that they don't need those skills anymore. They can actually focus on teaching or interacting with the students.
Joshua Chernikoff:It sounds like Laura and Issachar are saying, Hey, we're moving forward. The world is moving forward. Let's do it. But let's also be smart about it. I said, cause that's, that's.
Isaac Elnekave:Yeah, it is. And, you know, I kind of say I share the same concern, as Dotan does. I mean, we, we deploy AI within 1Question in order to be able to approximate the students' areas of strengths and weakness in terms of the curriculum. And we battle with this internally a lot because, trying to figure out where a student is, is not a pure math. And let's face it, AI. Almost surely math. I mean, it's a, you know, it's, it's, it's a decision tree, but kids today are growing and they're. And they're evolving from a, physiological perspective, which also impacts their ability to learn and retain information they're evolving psychologically. And I think that it's become, I don't, I don't believe that AI today, or at least the AR that, that I know, and I'm not an expert in the field, you know, really has the ability to blend everything in, to be able to provide. The correct approximation, it's easier. I believe in the space of CFA, this is a medical problem and based on AI, here's what we've seen in the past. And here's what we can see in the future. But when we're talking about kids and learning and, and developing, I'm just worried that we can get a lot of false positives or false negatives from the AI application. And I'll confess, we struggle with that internally.
Joshua Chernikoff:Fair enough. Do you have response there?
Laura Vaigorova:Yeah, I, just wanted to add that, sometimes AI does not work properly because there's always human bias, human bias, change the data, which affects the algorithms and, the outcomes of the AI, system or AI algorithms. So we also need to be mindful of that, that we humans train the computer to teach our kids or whoever. And. so I think there is no time for us to worry yet. AI will not be replaced at least fully by humans because there's always this bias.
Joshua Chernikoff:said, or you want to say something and then we'll properly introduced.
Fedor Kovalev:Uh, yeah. I just also wanted to ask about the, this ethical aspect of the AI and outputs. How do you see it? And, What are your thoughts about
Dotan Tamir:it
Joshua Chernikoff:that you are?
Laura Vaigorova:That's a very difficult question. Well, I don't personally see, you know, an ethical issue with the existing AI, because it does not, go against, the, the legislation or the aloud. so we should be fine with that. But if you mean, like, if AI becomes a. a super brain that can understand and read our emotions that can improvise and go against, humans. If that's what you mean by, you know, the ethical issue. Then I do not think that it will happen at least in the near future, as it is extremely difficult. We humans still. Can make more, you know, relatively relevant cognitive and social connections. And now we don't know how to teach AI to do that. So I don't really personally see any, you know, ethical issue with that. Maybe I'm wrong.
Joshua Chernikoff:Only time will tell. but honestly this is, this is a really good conversation because you know, AI might be the future of the online educator. So it's great that we've drilled down. I'm going to move us Fedor Kovalev Fedor is the founder of magic educator, a service that provides teachers with lesson planning, support, through research, smart recommendations, tips, and more your question, what types of online tools can support educators as they teach digitally
Fedor Kovalev:Yeah. So, uh, I think there are different like multiple categories of, online tools that support teachers and. You can basically, bug in them in three it's learning management systems like Nearpod, Google classroom Schoology, and so on. Lots of them. There are also classroom management tools, uh, like Clever power, school child, and others. And there are also, I call them advanced delivery systems, like Kahoot Quizlet zoom also like video platforms and others. And I think in the. In this current shift to remote, we saw lots of, popularity game, and all this video platforms, quizzes and others, some all teachers. And, I think though these tools can significantly increase students' engagement, during not only the remote, But also like also in the classroom and offline too. I think those tools are, can definitely enhance the learning process, but I also see that there's another. Generation next generation of tools that are helping teachers, grade create lessons and also evaluate students' performance. some of these, tools are based on AI and I think, what Laura is doing and what, Isaac is doing it also, uh, lace. And I think these are like, next generation tools. So for example, I dunno, like for example, great scope. One, two that, uh, we, uh, sites, uh, it helps it crunches, uh, handwriting, PDF's and digitizes. The people work and helps, teachers, save time on the, grading for example, curriculum and other tool. It helps, uh, it also uses AI and it helps teachers, Make a quiz or a lesson plan out of the book. So you just paste your link to the book or paste your PDF or an article. And, it will automatically generate a quiz or an activity for the lesson. So I think, what we are also doing at magic educator we are doing, we see that there are like lots of, Lots of articles and lots of educational content that are, that is like really hard to find. And we are making algorithms, for finding this content. Also understanding if, this specific video or this specific article is going to teach some something, to to the student and as well as, Generation AI helps us with generation of, pedagogical tips, based on different frameworks, like understand by design and others. So overall I think AI is going to revolutionize the space there's tool for students, for exaxmple On the other side, there is a, tool for generation of essays. For example, with also involving AI. So I think teachers need to arm themselves with the latest tech, so they can keep up with the normal innovation because on the student's side, on the parent's side, there are also tools that are enhancing the learning process.
Joshua Chernikoff:Anybody want to react to.
Dotan Tamir:Yeah, well, I think federal gave us, like a index of, what, like 10 different tools there. It's, it's great. You know, I, I, I speak to educators and every, almost every conversation I find out about a new tool, it's something new that came out or something that they like to use on their zoom, whatever, or they are with their students. And, it helps. It supports my feeling or everybody is here feeling that, there is a revolution going on, like people, uh, use those to let the last two years to build so many tools that can help. The question that I still have is, do educators really use those? What percentage of educators are really open to use those digital tools? What percentage of educators are left behind? They're not using and how can we help the majority of the educators to, to move forward and use all those tools? And I think that's the, that's one of the challenges. I think Sangay has a lot to talk about probably in a w when she's answering your question
Joshua Chernikoff:And, you know, thank you sung a for being the most patient and smiling panelists we've ever had. You know, who's, who's kind of listening, but you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you two questions. You're going to get a. For all that nice listing that you've done. Sung-Ae thank you for joining us. She's the founder of rock by rock, a project based learning platform for kids that is cognitive cognitively aligned to development and offers live instructors to teach 21st century topics. She's joining us from Queens, New York. Two questions for you. How has educating, how has education benefiting from embracing online opportunities? What do you think still needs to be solved? So no. Good deed goes unpunished. You got two questions.
Sung Ae Yang:Thanks, Josh. And, really great to meet everybody and excited to be here today. I think that definitely we have seen a massive shift. Right. And so one of the benefits of embracing the online opportunities, for educators has been what Isaac named right around, like how we're pushing the needle of how we think about educators today. And that educator is facilitator versus educator as Sage, where the burden to deliver all of this knowledge, is that becoming much less important. And we're seeing traditional educators really see like, wow, how can I be a guide? How can I leverage technology tools? Like Fedor was naming right. To facilitate really strong learning for kids. So I think it's exciting to see how technology is moving us beyond this, like stand and deliver traditional sense of teaching and really opening our eyes to the multitude of different types of roles that educators can play. So that's one of the benefits. I think the other is access and equity. I know Dotan and I talked about this a little bit. One-to-one where it's like, gosh, it's so cool to see. that You can access so much beyond your classroom. Now you can access a diverse set of real experts who can reflect the diversity of your kids. You can serve, live teachers as like co-teachers, there's all these virtual field experiences, right. That can be really game changing for kids who don't have that kind of. access Um, I know for us, we work with a lot of rural communities and many of them in the us have said like, gosh, like the real world virtual field trips that you bring, and these real world experts have been amazing for our kids who don't ever leave the zip code. Right. And they don't have the opportunities to like travel the world every summer. And the fact that you're bringing this, COVID specialist from England to like teach them about COVID models. It's really cool. And so I think. access is an equity to me is like super exciting. And we really can see technology as a tool for equity. So I think that's really awesome. And then hopefully, maybe AI can also have that lens, right. In terms of like, how do we bring equitable access to kids in terms of opportunities though? I think, as much as we have all of these new roles, teachers and educators, if you're a tutor, an online teacher, distant learner, you need support in knowing how to use all of these Technology having been an educator myself, and a school leader. I put on the school leader hat and I'm like, gosh, like there's so much technology now, how do I make sense of all of this? How do I make time for all of this? Right. Where does that fit into the instructional model that I'm working from? And I, want education to see technology as an opportunity, not as a burden, but I think sometimes it can feel that way if I don't know how to actually leverage the best practices, And does actually technology lead to more quality holistic instruction. I think all of these new educators will need support and understanding, not just like we're replicating rope skill and drill types of worksheets online now, but that we really are thinking about holistically, how we're developing kids and how we're developing learning, so that it's truly moving the needle in terms of, quality instruction and learning.
Joshua Chernikoff:And it, it wouldn't be one of these webinars. If I didn't bring up one of the articles I've actually printed out. Yes, I do. Still print out articles and I think it actually dovetails pretty well through you're talking about, this is the title of this is attitude is the key to success for online learning and this the aha moment, I think in the article, From this author, it says it is widely acknowledged that when students are actively engaged in the learning process and get pleasure and instrumental value from what they're doing, they have a propensity to achieve better learning outcomes. So not only do you have to know how to use the technology to be the online educator? Oh, by the way, you also have to engage the kids, right? Yeah.
Sung Ae Yang:Yeah, I think that's, so what you're saying is so right on Josh, because, if it actually, isn't leading to better engagement and better motivation to learn, right. It's actually, we're not, we're not reaching our outcomes here with children. So I love that quote that you just said around the attitude towards learning, and how both as educators and kids, we need to embrace that right. As we engage in the new online format.
Joshua Chernikoff:Attitude is everything. And, all of us are going to bring great attitudes to ASU GSV, the conference that we're going to. Before I roll into that, Isaac, do you have to go
Isaac Elnekave:I just want to say congrats to my fellow panelists. You guys are bloody amazing working together to make a real impact on education. I'm super humbled to be here. And I really appreciate the opportunity. To meet everyone and to have a bit of a chat. Thanks for having
Joshua Chernikoff:me. Yeah, man. We'll see you see in California.
Dotan Tamir:Thank you for oh, good luck. Good luck in your next meeting and see you soon. And thanks for all the help.
Joshua Chernikoff:So we're going to talk a little about the conference because this is a community. And I think we have people who are watching, who are certainly interested in the future of the online educator, but also just, you know, or thinking about the conference. Maybe they're going, maybe they're not. So I'm going to kind of do a little bit of a round table here. This will be the second time for Joe tonight. So we're like, you know, old hat here. But we, we will give some, some of our ideas and tips. I'll start with. You are so good at, you know, studying this stuff, before you get on the ground, especially for a conference. So, who will you make sure that you want to meet this year at ASU GSV and Y
Dotan Tamir:I want to meet sunga and Laura and, uh, I know Federer is joining me virtually, uh, but. It's a good question. I am. I still have some work to do before going to the conference and make sure I know who exactly I want to meet. Of course there are meetings, meeting meetings planned. We all spoke today about the future of online educator. One thing that I'm eager to explore is, how this is all going to connect with the metaverse. My feeling that is. From watching, you know, how kids interact today by fitting is that everybody, most of the kids and the young adults are already in the metaverse, even if it's not called like that. They're, virtual. They're there. Their reality is their digital reality. And I think there are going to be some interesting sessions about that in the conference about the metaverse for three, this is going to be interesting to get another perspective on the future of the online education or education as a whole,
Joshua Chernikoff:I finally called future man. So a future man is putting his Cape on right now. So when you're there, talk to future man about that. But if you're not there and you're joining virtually Fetter, you know, how are you prepping for the conference to make the most of it? Even though you, I'm assuming you're going to be in Argentina for the.
Fedor Kovalev:Yeah. Uh, so just, uh, networking, uh, online, uh, and they have a really nice app for the conference where you can also, uh, set up the meeting even on mine and just, um, message through, they add some DS and, uh,
Joshua Chernikoff:Yeah, totally. It is a great app. No doubt. We'll be living on it for four days. Well, leading up to it and then those four days, and then after, Laura, your prep I'm sure has started long ago and tell us, you know, you're about to get on the plane. So what, what do you plan to, how do you plan to absolutely benefit from traveling all this way for this conference and tell everybody where you're your.
Laura Vaigorova:Well, there's so many things that I wants to do. I'm not sure if I've managed to do all of them once they arrive. But my first goal of course, is to network, to meet great people and learn about their experiences. But my another goal is to find a potential investor or, you know, a company that would like to collab with. Someone, we can help into someone who can help us. So the first, type of people, I mean, on my list, of course our investors, because I will need to talk to them. There are a lot of interesting people. I will also need to connect with, several. And administrators, people representing universities. There will be a lot of people from Latin America, India, Southeast Asia, basically the markets we are. Scaling to right now cause they provide, the majority of the world's, international students. So that's that, and I would of course, love to meet. Disciplines. I connected with several, from Finland, from Australia, from various countries. So I went to, set up several meetings before the conference and then after the conference, because three days is just not enough. Don said, I would also love to attend, sessions, you know, master classes that will be held during the summit because I'm sure there will be still, so much new information, so many great things that I've never heard about. So that's the plan. And I also talked to one of the former organizers of the summit and his motive to meet. Be aggressive, be as aggressive as you can and talk to as many people as you can. So that's my strategy.
Joshua Chernikoff:I think, I think we can echo all those be aggressive. The only thing I would and this is crazy and this is true. Like you get really good pen. And Dalton and I all the time when we're working, you know, I'll be like, so like you get those pens, the rest of them must be upstairs, but there's so many good things to pick up. So be aggressive when it comes to picking up good stuff. SUNY I, is this your. First conference second. How many of you been to, yeah, this is my
Sung Ae Yang:second. I think it's going to be a busy time before I was a panelist and this time I'm a participant and I'm, well, I'm a panelist and a precedent, but I'm excited for the professional development. To be honest, I'm using this time to like really learn from other people, really learn what's going on in the sector. Absorb everything and just try to be in the moment right. Of to celebrate all of this great, forward movement in terms of education.
Joshua Chernikoff:Celebrate good times, right though. Time is out. We're going to do.
Dotan Tamir:Yeah, I think this is, you know, they, they just announced that it's sold out. And I think for us as, as, attendees of last year's conference, visiting San Diego, when COVID was still around, it's still around. Right. But it, it prevented a lot of people from coming last year. So it was like half full. I think this year it's going to be extremely. Busy. I agree with what Samir wrote on the. Uh, we want to be authentic. I think what you mean, Laura, by being aggressive is what I, what I tend to do by just not being afraid to just go and talk to people and make sure you talk to the people that you want to talk to. Because if you aren't and you lost a Greeley really great opportunity, to meet people in person, I felt last year after being. That I'm right. How you have that light, that light bulb that walks with you and you say so many assumptions that I had. Now I see other people that think the same. And it gives you a lot of energy and great motivation to keep building and keep working. Of course, since then, you know, many things have changed since August to April. Like the, the world is changing so, so quickly. But you get the really up to date, up to date version of what's going on in the world at this
Joshua Chernikoff:company. Yeah, it's, uh, I think it's energy. I think it's motivation for me at least. And I'm, I'm trying to like check in with myself here too, a little bit of nerves. Like, I feel like we're going to be there in five minutes. You know, and there's so much to do and it's going to be so exciting. So whether you are doing. Virtually or are you going to be on the ground there in San Diego? let's make a great conference and help each other out as a community. We'll be talking about it on our Facebook community, as well. And then we'll be back, with our lifelong educator show. I believe it's April the 13th. We've got a pretty cool guests that we'll announce. Um, and we'll get more back to kind of one-to-one discussions, but these weapons. Leading up to this with ASU GSV have been, have been awesome because we're just gonna get on the ground and be like, we're old friends. We all know each other, you know, from Kazakhstan and Queens and wait aside aids and Israel and I'm in Mexico. And Isaac was in California. So thank you everybody from joining wherever you are. And we will see you again here on the 13th and we'll hopefully see you in San Diego on April the third. Thank you.
Sung Ae Yang:Thanks everyone.
Laura Vaigorova:Thanks everyone. Bye