Kylie’s cancer shock and Britney’s chaotic reality debut

Rewind to 15 May to 21 May 2005.From a Eurovision fever dream to a rollercoaster that needed its own weather forecast, this week brought chaos, confessions and comeback queens. Kylie faced a life-changing diagnosis with absolute grace, Britney overshared via camcorder and Mariah said we belong together and we absolutely did.

🎤 Britney, camcorders and career chaos.Britney & Kevin: Chaotic premiered and immediately raised the bar for oversharing. Grainy, sweaty, unedited. This wasn’t reality TV, it was digital diary mayhem. Kevin mumbled. Britney asked existential questions. The editing? Optional. It was like watching the birth of Instagram Stories… if they came with night vision and regret.

🎢 Kingda Ka Launches (your soul).It launched. It screamed. It rewrote your ribcage. Kingda Ka opened as the tallest and fastest rollercoaster in the world - 456 feet tall and 0–128 mph in 3.5 seconds. You waited an hour for 28 seconds of absolute cardiac chaos. And then sometimes… it just rolled back. Because apparently that’s part of the “fun.”

💔 Kylie’s Showgirl pause.Kylie Minogue announced her breast cancer diagnosis, pausing her Showgirl tour and breaking every Aussie heart. But what followed was a wave of screenings, solidarity and sparkle. Her comeback? Rebranded, reworked and completely iconic. Kylie didn’t just return - she turned recovery into rhinestones and resilience.

🎶 Mimi’s mic drop.Mariah Carey’s We Belong Together hit the charts like a breakup text at 3am - devastating, beautiful and somehow comforting. 14 weeks at #1, a Grammy magnet and proof that you should never count Mimi out. Glitter? What glitter?

📺 Everybody loves... goodbyes.Everybody Loves Raymond wrapped with Ray almost dying during a routine surgery. Don’t worry - he lived, they had pancakes and we cried anyway. No gimmicks. Just kitchen table feels.

🎮 Nintendo's Wii reveal (sorta). At E3, Nintendo teased the Revolution - aka the Wii. They didn’t show the controller, just promised it would “change everything.” Spoiler: it did. And then it broke your TV. Wii Sports, we love you, but we suffered for you.

🎥 Monster-in-Law hits theatres.J.Lo vs Jane Fonda in a rom-com slapfest that redefined mother-in-law madness. Critics hated it. Everyone else couldn’t look away.

Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

Chapters

• 0:00 intro
• 0:22 show opener
• 7:55 news
• 20:52 open up the boombox
• 27:58 music
• 53:04 movies and tv
• 1:09:33 gaming
• 1:17:47 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:20:34 show closer

Transcript

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with a Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mound. 

15 May 2005. 

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An ice breaker. Don't judge me up. 

This is the. 

Now you will come home. 

My question is who approved that? 

Do you see where this is going? Not really. 

Welcome to your weekly rewind to the Chaos Culture and chart toppers of exactly 2 decades ago on the little podcast that we like to call t -, 20, where we're not just rehashing history, we're serving it with Sass and sarcasm, and a a spray of links Africa, Java. 

It's my favourites, just quietly, yeah. 

Java with your favourite? Yes. Well, we went from like the the Britney blogging to Eurovision bangers. We're digging through Internet archives so that you don't have. Do and we're going to resurface. We're gonna let it all bubble up to the top of it. The cream, the cream of 2005. Everything that made it weird and wanna. Speaking of the cream, the cream of the crop. The, the, the better half of the podcast. Mel is over there. I'm. I'm Joe. One of the other ones. But hi, Mel. 

Hello we are rehashing the 15th to the 21st of May 2005. 

I I really you know I had. I had a. Lot of help had. A lot of love and positivity and. Yes, it's. Clearly a terrible thing to go through and for for your family. I just felt so bad for my mum and dad like. 

Yeah, she felt bad for a mum and dad. That was Kylie Minogue with an absolutely shock diagnosis that we would all remember this time 20 years ago. 

Shock diagnosis, yeah. 

Launching to 128 mph. 3 1/2 seconds. 

This even took me by surprise it. Is just beyond. 

What was beyond the world's tallest and fastest roller coaster? Hmm. Well, back in 2005, I'm sure that would have been quickly overtaken by some other roller coaster. They they seem to always get madder and more crazy than ever. 

Ohh it's. 

Held the record for quite some time up until only only recently actually, so yeah. 

Hmm. 

Is that a? Fact. 

You PN takes you inside the private life of Britney Spears and Kevin Federline. 

It's controversy, and that's what they. Want to see? 

I don't know that I do want to see. 

That grainy footage flirting. 

Yes. 

Kevin falling asleep. 

Yes, I mean it's celeb reality and no one was bigger than Britney Spears and Kevin Federline at the time, so why not cash in on it? Hey, she reckons it's what people wanted to see. I guess we'll find out. 

The big premiere. 

Do you remember early 2000s reality, the celeb reality? I'm not talking. 

Like the reality TV where they're just in a house and filming people getting drunk and carrying on. Like Yahoo's. 

Well, that's kind of what the some of the. Celebrity had who was as well. 

More the celeb reality it was it was very Blair witch back in the day, that whole camcorder over the shoulder. If they weren't filming it themselves, whoever was it was very grainy. 

Ohh yeah. 

Yeah, there was a lot of. Is. It. Yeah, in early celeb reality, a lot of a lot of pimples. 

Celebrities without makeup. 

I think there was. A lot of like I think back to the Jessica Simpson one and the Britney one. Hmm, there was a lot of. Pimples. 

Celebrities without cinematographers. 

Made me feel better. There was no ring lines. There wasn't stacked on makeup. 

They were very young, least they was. Yeah. 

It was a very different world. 

No philtres, no philtres, you know, like you can put, you can put a philtre on your webcam. Now make yourself look 10 years younger while you're in your zoom or your Skype, or your teams calls. 

Give yourself A10. Ohh I like. No, it's soft. What is it soft. 

Table using soft focus. 

Focus or blur? 

Yeah, some kind of philtre. And I like. I don't. I thought I had to go to specs. 

Something like that. I. That one. Are you chef? 

Savers, since there's some it, it's just got a. Philtre on the other side. 

I use that but I don't do it right to the end because when you go right to the extreme, it's a little bit obvious and then people are disappointed when they see you in real life, there's a. 

With the philtre. Ohh there's there's a slider. There's a slider that gives you the degree of how far across you need to go. 

So. Go. Yeah. Yeah. So I. About 72%. 

You use a soft focus philtre do wow wow. 

I absolutely do. If they've, if they've got it, I'm going to use it. 

I didn't notice, but they do say that love is blind. So. 

I look, I remember when. Worked in TVA stuff so the cameraman to give me a little bit of a tan every now and then. It's like I'm looking a bit pasty this week. Can you do? 

Ah yes. 

A white balance and give me a bit more tan. 

Just the the modern day equivalent to Vaseline on the lens. 

Yes. Yes, Sir, it's. 

Next time. 

Just so peculiar. I mean, I've been on calls with people and I'm like, that's not what you look. 

Like or. It's like the photo you have. The glamour headshots. Yes, for the photo. For your teams photo. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, you turn your camera on and you pop up and you go look nothing like I look nothing like my photo. I've got a nice photo and. They'll pop up and scare everyone and. 

And that's that's not you. Yes, that's you're. 

They're like, who's that? You know that you know that people. 

You're catfishing. That's what you're doing. You're catfishing people. 

You know that people don't think you look like your photo when you change your photo, put your photo up and everyone comments on. Your photo? Well, that's a really nice. 

Ohh. 

Photo where did you get that photo done? You know that they. Think it doesn't look like yours. 

Because that looks nothing like you. That's so nice. And. And I know like. 

It's it's a soft focus. 

What'd you do? You've normally got a face like a drop pie. I don't know. And I mean, don't even get me started on the backgrounds. I think it says a lot about people their. 

Ah. 

Choice of background. 

That's really OK, rice. 

Yeah. Yeah. So if we ever do like a modern art deco kind of home and it's like that's not where you live and then other people would do like a tropical beach, you'll be like, that's not where you live. And then some people will just do, like, this huge, crazy kaleidoscope collage of like, cats and rainbows. And it's like. 

Yeah. 

That is where you live. Yeah, that's where you. 

I like those ones I. Like them? 

Live. 

It's the hatches. Matches the dispatches clue. We got a segment at the end of the show. The birth. There's a marriages segment just in case you wanted to cause, you know that's hatches, matches and dispatches. Is is old people talk so. 

Yeah, that's what my mum and my grandmother used to call that section of the. Paper and lived for that, they thought. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

That was great. For Saturday, I think it was hard to imagine this match. I think it was twice a week. Actually there was a Saturday, maybe a wedding. 

It. I don't know. Really. 

Day and that was just the highlights. It's just the highlight of the newspaper. 

They have a bumper addition if. A couple of people. 

Hmm. 

Ohh, they also like to know who was getting engaged. They were so excited. You know when when you proposed. I don't think they really cared that you. I was gonna say. I don't think they really cared that. 

Jeez. Yeah. They put us in the hatches. Matches in this. 

Matches, yeah. 

You. 

Proposed they were just really excited that they could put something in the Hatch match and. Because they hadn't put anything in since the the birth of my sister, the third born. So they've just been waiting years to put something in again. Kind of a status, a status symbol like ohh. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Wow, they would have had. Eh, they would have had a great time reading that during COVID. It's just it's a special bumper addition. See which there's a lot in that. So anyway, we do a clue. We do a clue about one of the people featured in that segment usually probably only one person that's featured in that segment. And then we'll go back at the end of the show and we'll play that clue again. And you'll be like, ohh, I knew who it was all along. Or geez, how. 

Hey guys. Another one. 

Hmm. 

Why did I? Why did I sit through this whole thing to find out? 

Could. Have been so stupid. 

What I already knew although. 

A A celebrity that passed away this week 20 years ago that said this. 

Ohh what is it that no man wants to have yet? No man wants to. Choose a lawsuit. Correct boy wonder. 

Well, there's a big hint right there I think, but you you'll find out exactly who that was at. The end of the show. Here is Mel with the news. 

Thank you. 

So like that was very official news, sort of. Thing I was sort of at that ABC stage like I I wouldn't mind getting a job at the ABC's. Very good. 

Hmm. 

They may say, yeah, probably not you. 

No, I think I I did that well though, like here is Mel with the news. That's very yes. 

Thank you. It allowed me enough time to swap over sip of drink that I was taking it at that point, so I appreciate that. We'll start with the 17th of May 2005. Kylie Minogue A devastating diagnosis. She's diagnosed with breast cancer at just 36 years old. 

This was terrible. She was about to go on tour, I believe. 

The showgirl greatest hits tour. Yeah, and and there was so much planning. Thing that went into that tour and I don't know if they'd actually sold tickets. I think they had sold tickets at that stage and then obviously immediately postponed so that she could get treatment. 

It was a massive shock, I remember it was a really big shock. I remember it hitting the news and everyone being very shocked because she just went to it for a normal checkup as you do and then she and then she got diagnosed and then very quickly it all happened very quickly too. She underwent surgery shortly after the diagnosis. 

Yes. 

A lot of chemotherapy, and I guess the good thing about what happens when somebody famous like Kylie Minogue does get diagnosed with breast cancer at a young age and has to go through that, which is, I mean, like you wouldn't wish it upon anyone. You don't want anyone to go through it. But the fact that she did meant that. There was a big rise in breast cancer awareness and screenings in Australia, which they called the Kylie effect. At the time they reckon there was like a 40% increase in bookings from younger women at breast cancer screenings. After that because. 

It's like. 

I think traditionally it was thought of as something that's affected older women and I think that was part of the shock. 

Yeah. 

When it happened, everyone was saying oh. 

She's funny, in her 30s. 

This doesn't happen to to people in. 30s this is. That happens to to older women and I think. And it it kind of increased that awareness, I guess that it can happen to anyone and you do need to be vigilant and you do need to get your check. So yeah, I I guess something good came of it in in that respect and fans obviously around the world were just. Yeah, so upset and concerned and messages of support. I think the Prime Minister, John Howard, at the time, she is an icon, isn't she? 

Well, she's a national treasure at the time, and she really is. And so, yes, our Prime Minister at the time did did wish her. 

Well, Madonna dedicated a song to her during her tour and referred to Kylie as a Princess. But of course, the triumphant return and I. Remember this so clearly. 

Well, that was the thing. She beat it and I think that's the other thing. She's this poster child for early diagnosis and treatment, you know? Yes. So the fact that it was a good outcome, I think is wonderful because it's like, this is what happens if you catch it early. Yes, This is why. You need to catch it early. 

And you drop everything to take care of yourself, yeah. 

You you crawl off your tour, you rally with your family, you don't hesitate to go and sort it out. Yes, which I think, of course, you know, anytime anyone says cancer, it's like OK, like, let's go like. It's just the most horrible disease. But anyway. Yes. So she beat it and then she comes back a couple of years later in 2000 and. 

Six. Yeah. So she resumes the tour. So this is only a year later, so it's not very long. She rebrands as well. It's now called showgirl homecoming tour. Her as opposed to greatest hits to her. 

Yes. 

She basically rewrote the whole show choreography costumes, set list and considerations for her because she is still recovering as well so. 

Yeah. 

So built in ways for her to still manage her health, to be able to sort of sit down in between songs, she let the dances do a lot of the corro so that she could rest. And it was really clever the way that she. Went about it. 

I think too there was the the scheduling as well like they kind of didn't, it wasn't as whirlwind of a tour as it potentially could have been. 

Hmm. 

Before that, but the fans were just beside themselves. Like every I think that was the thing. 

Well, it was full. 

Vegas style and the costumes were incredible, I remember. 

And everyone was just so thrilled to see, to make that come back. 

When I did the tour again, the showgirl homecoming. Now I look at that and I think my God, what was I thinking? How did I do that? Yeah, but I guess that's that was my goal. That's what I felt like. Like, that's why I was cut off on tour. And it's such a part of who I am and how I. How I live and breathe and and what I'm passionate about and how I connect with people that. That's what I really wanted to do is get back. On stage and I was. Damned if anyone was going to stop me. I was going to. Do it. 

Yeah, it's pretty cool. She's, like, ringing the bell, you know? Yeah. Which in in the biggest possible way. 

Hmm. Standing ovations every night, people crying, cheering, waving the pink ribbons as well. 

MM. 

And I think there was a thing with the glitter hats as well. The glitter top hats as. A bit of a tribute too, which that you. Saw across the concerts. 

Yeah, and and still cancer free, which is good. Mm-hmm. Which is wonderful, are very outspoken advocate for that early detection for Women's Health as well. And. I think she's. She won an A, an honorary doctorate actually from Anglia Ruskin University in the UK for her contributions to breast cancer awareness. 

Well done, Carly. 

Not just a pretty face or a pop star, but just, I mean, a survivor and an and an awesome human being by the sounds of things. There's a really way to segue to the next story here, because it's like, well, you know from one roller coaster ride from the roller coaster ride of to yeah, there's this story's about. It's about a roller coaster. It's a yeah. 

No, that's not. 

It's a bit. 

Change of pace now I think is probably a better a better segue. Yeah, yeah. 

Change of pace. Yeah, but you know. You know me tacky all the way. 

Ohh I do 21st of May 2005. Is it pronounced? Kinda car kinda car. Hmm. 

Kindercare king Dakar? They said it. They said it was Swahili for vomit. I don't think it is. I don't think it is. 

Kinder Car is a roller coaster. Well, it's not just a roller coaster, it's a metallic skyscraper. That was the tallest and fastest roller coaster in the world at the time. 

Yes, yes, it it turned your internal organs into. 

Outside organs. 

Well. 

Almost. And it do something to you anyway. It's because of all the G forces and stuff. It was at the six flag at Great Adventure Park in New Jersey in the USA and I think it was something like 400 odd feet high, which is 139. 

MHM. 

Metres. I think it was. It was taller than the statue lived. You go from zero to 206 kilometres an hour in 3.6 seconds out, which is like one of those, you know where you see the test pilots in the rocket chairs on the rails. It's kind of like that, really, that sort of speed. It's a 418 foot. 

Hmm. 

Vertical drop and then the drop comes after it launches you up this vertical spike and then flips you over into that free fall, which just sounds. 

I saw a picture of it. It looks horrendous. 

Sounds revolting. Like don't mind a good roller coaster, but. They're just, they're so extreme these. 

Days. That's the thing. Because you've gotta outdo the best one at the time, so you've gotta go even crazier. 

Yeah. 

Yeah, I went on to that green. Was it the Green Lantern escape thing or something at at movie? 

You didn't look well when you got. 

World. 

Off it, yes. 

It was freaking terrifying. Like it was fun, but it like it it it certainly put my body under a a weird amount of pressure that it's never been under before. 

I think when you get a bit older and rattler, it's not a good idea. I don't I I love to a roller coaster as a kid, but I really don't think it's a good idea for today. Me, I I think things. 

Yeah. 

Have. 

Would just. Disintegrate and fall apart. 

I had a bit of gas. 

It would just sort of turn to dust and it wouldn't be good. I had a bit of. 

Gas and it. And it did you the the speed and the pressure? No, I just felt like a giant human compressed air canister. I farted afterwards, when it stopped, I farted a lot. Yeah, that's alright. I that the stranger was more. I think they'd probably farted too. Again, which is these big compressed air. 

Fart on it. Ohh you would have been sitting. Next to a stranger too. 

Canisters. It was very strange. So I I I I just remember my body not feeling very natural. 

Yeah, I think that comes a certain point. 

You know it's. Yeah. 

In your lifespan where it's just not a good idea, not a no, no, it's. 

It's not a good time anymore. 

It's just silly. 

Yeah. So imagine you put. Like a pensioner on there and they just, they go so fast that they turn. 

To dust. Yes, exactly. Little shame. That's what probably happened to my joints and bones. And I just, yeah, I wouldn't return. And I think with this one, they also. Yeah, they eventually added. 

Yes. Yeah. Maybe they're another dimension. 

Some free fall drop. I don't know if that was part of the roller coaster or a separate ride that's attached to the thing, cause the thing was so high. Ohh God, I hate the sound of terror. 

Oh, no, it's a separate ride. It's like, you know, the Tower of terror. So because it was so high, they basically they they said, well, we've got the roller coaster going over the top. I here's a good idea. Let's a more bang for Buck strap a couple of rails on there and put some chairs on there and then drop people in freefall from the side. Yes, they did. 

We've got a we've got a structure. Drops and painful. Persons. Persons. 

It did. It's it's, you know, it's not the most. Safe kind of thing in the world. 

Roller coaster historian Steve Urbanowicz has been on 875 coasters around the world. Remember, he's not on the great adventure. 

Payroll. It's skydiving. It's drag racing. It's rocket launching. It's everything that you've ever thought of as an extreme activity. And it's all wrapped into one thing. 

That is the part of the story where a great reporter would strap himself into the coaster and take his viewer for a first person. Tour. You know what? I'm not a great reporter, not even mediocre. And in TV. If you're not a great reporter, you better have a great producer, or at least one. So you can make do. Your job. There we go. 

Meet MM. 

Live producer. See his legs. That's nerves. 

See OK. 

His cheeks, that's 4G. 

I think my spleen is in my foot or something like that, but other than that I'm fine. 

This what I mean. What a journalist or producer of the roller coaster. 

That's not very nice. 

Isn't Mike. I've got a feeling Mike must have volunteered himself. Maybe. Or maybe he's just like Mike, you know, I mean, early 2000s media. I don't know. Like, it's like Mike, if you wanna keep your job, you're gonna get on that roller coaster. Yeah. 

Probably. Well, it seems like you get a free go. It's free. Yeah. Get on there, Mike. Yeah. Trying to remember the last rollercoaster I went, it was probably. Probably the Corkscrew at sea world's. 

Didn't you get on the wild mouse that lunar path with the sun? Yeah, well, he had a good time. 

Ohh, that was actually scary. That was scary. I felt like I was. Gonna fall off at the corner. Yeah, I think yeah, as you get older, you go is this structure? Safe. 

Hmm, you start looking at. 

You never go on one that's been built by Carney, that's for sure. Never go on one of those. You want a structure? 

Yes, yes. 

That's been there. For a period of time. 

No, I remember being on a char char once. I think it was at the Carneys at Batemans Bay with a friend of mine. 

Yes, and there was always parts sitting in the middle on the grounds. 

Part Sitting on the middle and a. Freaking open toolbox. And I mean, imagine that. Imagine that. Kinder, kinder. What was it, kindercare? The roller coaster that's had moments that have been bad. Sometimes it doesn't make it all the way to the top, and it rolls back. 

It rolls back down, but they go ohh, that's alright. It just does that. Don't worry, that's just part of the fun. You never know what's gonna happen. 

Does. From time to. Time. So that's not the. It's it's been, it's been struck. Because it's so tall, it's been struck by Lightnings. 

Imagine being on it when it struck my landing. 

It can't operate in high winds, no, which means I wouldn't be able to ride it. And I just don't know. I don't know that I'd. I'd feel comfortable with something. That is a conductor of lightning and can't be operated in high winds. 

Hmm. 

Well, you don't have to worry about it because it's gone. It's gone only recently. Yeah, when the the park closed at the end of last year, just like closed for the season was closed, was cold. And they said that. Ohh. Yep. Closed permanently. It will be removed. And then. 

Gone, isn't it? Yeah, this year. 

It was started, it started to be demolished January this year, and then they did an implosion on late February this year. So sorry everybody. But I do think that there was another one built somewhere else. It didn't. It didn't beat it for fastest, but it's. 

So they they they blew. It up, they did an implosion which would be spectacular. Yes. 

Paula, I think it might be in the United Arab Emirates perhaps or Abu Dhabi or something like that. 

Right. Really. And scare the **** out. Of you. 

Yeah. 

4G. 

Boomy mood tonight. I mean, you know, saying that we're too old for roller coasters now and all of that. 

Sort of business. No, that's not booming. That's just practical. That's. I don't know. That's that's sensible. We've become more. 

Alright, seeing pictures of old ladies losing their teeth on roller coasters and whatnot. 

Sensible in our all those. Ohh we I've seen wigs and toupees fly off. That happens a bit. 

Yeah, yeah, it's on Fabio got hit by a bird. 

That was great. 

It well, it was. 

He was fine. He was fine. No, but he was fine. I wouldn't have said that if he. 

Nutrients could have killed him. 

Wasn't. 

Struck by an albatross, it was like a modern day rhyme of the ancient mariner. 

Fine, but he. The photo. The Fido was incredible. 

Yes, it was a great photo. 

All across Women's Day, new ideas. It was in women's weekly, yeah. 

The publication choice of most boomers, we are opening up the boom box. This is the segment where we we air our grievances. We have the opportunity to complain and it's a safe space to do so. It's a space where you know in other places out in society you can be scared of that comment, that big horrible. 

That's loss. 

Yeah. 

OK, boomer, when you're starting to vent your spleen out into the world and nobody likes it, and I don't think that's appropriate, and that's why we've given you this platform here, you, you, you can contact us. 

We like it. 

On the socials, you look for t -, 20 podcast. You go to Facebook, you go to Instagram, you go to TikTok, go to wherever you send us a DM with your boomer complaint. Your complaint, your modern day complaint about the state of the modern day. Basically, that's what it is. 

Hmm. 

And I bring exciting news from the DM. We actually have not just a boom that's come. We've had a few booms come through. Let's be real. But we've actually got. 

What? 

Yes. 

Uh-huh. 

A voice message. An audio boom. 

Yes, yes, that deserves a. 

We can play. Yes, I'm thrilled and an extra boomer news. Uh-huh. Actually had to send them screenshots of how to. Do it. 

Yes. 

I think they called it. I think they called us through the Instagram thinking that they called it like a phone and they. 

Instinct. 

Yes. I answered hello. Who's this? 

Got a recorded message. And then they said, can you hang up so I can record my boom? We hung up and then they rang again and then we realised that's not how you do. It we had to send some screenshots. 

There's a boom within the boom. It's kind of a meta. Boom and it opened up a boom vortex. 

Really was. It did. It did. And are we ready? Are we? Ready to hear this boom? 

So you got around to the boom, yeah. 

They yes, you send a screenshot of how to do it. Yes. Got a thumbo up. Yep. And across it came. Are we ready? OK. 

Alright, boom away. 

Hey, Joe and Mel, this is Ray. Long time listener, first time caller. I'm just ringing in with a double boom for you today. 

Ohh, a double boom. 

So let me just take a sigh. Fast food restaurants and the drive through windows. Why do they always get the order wrong? Ohh every single time you order something it is wrong. It's incorrect. Are they actually trained to do that? Do they deliberately leave something out of your order so that way you get? Home. And then you think Ohh it's missing. But by the time you're home you can't be bothered going back there again. Is it a scam or is it just that the staff aren't trained properly? What is it? The other thing that drives me nuts about the drive through window is as soon as you pull up at the. 

Ohh yeah. 

So they ask you to go and wait in the waiting Bay, and now there might not even be another car behind. 

What? 

He got cut off, he got cut off. So that came through and completely agree. Completely agree. There is nothing worse than getting home and I try to check in the bag to make sure I've got my order because I've. 

It's not. Yeah. 

Yeah, I I agree on by fronts, yeah. 

Been caught by that before? Uh-huh. But sometimes you can't. If it's just you driving, you gotta get out of. 

Yes, yes, very few in a hurry. And there's congestion at the drive through or if you've been in the waiting bath. The waiting boat, yeah. 

There you don't wanna hold other people up. And the waiting Bay is waiting. Bay is stressful because quite often you've gotta do some kind of manoeuvre to get into the waving Bay with people behind you. That's so stressful to go to all that effort and the food to come. 

Waiting. 

Out. 

I hate it when you're in the waiting Bay, right, or you've you've you've put through an order. It's quite a simple order. Like it's a small order. It might be a drink and. 

Hmm. 

A drink? Just a. 

Baby like a burger or something? Yeah, or a toasted sandwich, the toasted sandwich. 

Some chips that should be there waiting already. Toaster said no toaster sandwich has to be made. You never order the toasted sandwich. That's like a no. 

Is the big one. Right, so so, so you put in all like that the car in front of you will have, you know, a bunch of ******* in there. They'll be like, 30 ******* in a in a sedan. And they'll all have individual orders. And they'll go through the drive through and they'll get these giant. Yeah. And so they'll be at the drive through for a substantial amount of time. 

Hmm. 

Gluten free. No dairy. 

IE the same amount of time, the same amount of time that it takes to make the toasted sandwich, that's how long they'll be there for because they're handing over the bags. 

Not milk. 

Yes. 

Of all of the artery hardening goodness that they're about to consume, thus shortening their lifespan, which is the only thing that gives me any solace in the fact that I'm behind them at the drive through because they're eating enough fast food to kill themselves. But I've then and then I get there. It's. 

Yes. 

Like, oh, can you go around to the waiting Bay? Like, what the? 

Yes, but back to. Raise boom. Completely agree with him completely. Understand. 

See, I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah. 

He didn't get cut off and I. 

It did. It is. It is a bit boomy in and of itself. It's a bit boomy. 

He got he got cut off. And what? What do you do when you get cut off? You send another message. I got a message. Is there a time limit on the recording? I think it cut off at the end of my boom. 

Oh yeah. 

Yeah. 

And I said, yeah, you've got a minute. And so then we get a part. 

Too. Ohh, he's got great. Excellent. He's doubled down. He's he's a double boom with a boom back. 

You go to pots and I love this. Here we go. 

OK. 

Yeah, Ray here again. Long time listener, second time caller. Let me just say now I'm gonna have a vent about the bloody length of time I have to make a complaint about something. You know, it's ridiculous. One minute. How long is 1 minute? It's not very long. It's only a minute long. How can you get all your? 

It's pretty sure, yeah. Agree. 

Frustration and all? You're booming out in just one minute. I think you guys really need to have a look at that, cause it's just ridiculous. I didn't even get to do the second part of my company. Think about how when they tell you to move along to the the section, you know the the part the wait, the wading Bay and then you get out there and then like no longer no sooner are you there that they're already knocking on your window with your food. So why the hell are they even getting you to wait? And you know, I couldn't even get that out to you guys. And you guys are supposed to be there supporting us with our. 

Right, yes. 

Plus. 

Yeah, we should. Yeah, got it. Like you did, you did. 

Booming. And what is this like one minute? It's ridiculous. Like I can't get anything out in one minute. It just. It's crazy. I think. I think you guys. Really need you got cut off again. 

Ohh, I'm sorry Ray, I agree you need a little bit more than a minute, but. It's not our rules. 

OK. 

Ohh, I love ray. 

Thank you, ray. 

He's been he's been down since day one down since day one. That's right. It was like, you know, can we? 

Yes, he was on our first episode, yes. When he caught pink off the stage. 

Yeah, it's like let's let's have a guest. Like, let's back when we had time, we thought we had time and then we realised that. 

Yeah. 

Yes. 

Getting. Guests takes a lot of time. Not that we don't love guests, but it was very kind of him to be our first guest when he didn't even kind. 

Does does. 

You know what we're asking him to do, and now he's booming. 

Why not nice for me, I appreciate that payment. I agree with this. He can boom anytime. 

He's double booming. Her little boom back. Absolutely, absolutely. He. He's he booming about the charts because, I mean, let's face it, pop music in 2005. 

Right. I don't think he's the biggest acon fan and Akon is number one in the. UK this week. 

You never know. Ray is very eclectic with his taste, so this one's got now to you, Ray. 

So lonely, Mr Lonely, I have nobody. All my own girl can't believe I had a girl like you when I just let you walk right now. Of my life, after all, I put you through. 

Hmm. 

I wonder how Acon world is going. 

Akon world? Ohh. That's right, he was gonna. What was he gonna do? Build his own country with his own? With Acorn, his own currency? Acoin is it? Does that mean like just one coin or is he like a coin? 

Or land delivery. With a coin a coin. Yeah, yeah. No, that's his version of Bitcoin, yes. So I don't think it's going very well maybe. 

Yeah. 

We shouldn't talk about it. 

Well, that's because he's lonely by himself. 

Number one, we have a new number one here in Australia, Will Smith switch? 

Turn around. 

Giving anxiety gives it as a BBQ, as somebody who's a BBQ aficionado. There, there's too much turning over and turning around, like with a steak like going turn it once. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing like Will Smith to ruin your meat. 

Ruin your mates. He'll do that. And I didn't put any information in there because I've just gone off him. I just. I'm sorry. Like I. Yes, I know. He was big back in the day. I've still got boom. Shake the room on CD, single in the in the cardboard case. And it used to fall out a lot of the cardboard case. The plastic ones were much better and I did like him back in the day. But I've just gone off him and I just don't wanna put any more effort or energy into it. So can we go to the? 

Yes. 

And I. Everyone's a bit off loosening, yeah. Yes. It's kinda well, you're kinda half expecting to reach back behind his head. 

The US. 

And sort of grab the the tab of a zipper and then pull it over his face all the way down to the ground. And then like his skin just kind of falls off and underneath it is a giant alien lizard that's just ready to terrorise the world. No, I'm just picturing. I'm just picturing him. He's one of those, you know, Hollywood, Illuminati lizard people. Yeah, it could be. 

Is that us? Did that happen to me? Did that happen to a movie? Was in ohh. OK, I thought it was a movie that I hadn't seen. 

Like TV, maybe. Like he eats mice and stuff. 

Like that? I'm just. I'm just off him. So can we go to the the US top five friends? I don't wanna talk about him. 

Alright, sorry sorry and I now now I've turned him into some horrible alien villain that will come and get you in your nightmares. Alright, here's the top five. 

Anymore. It's enough. It's enough. 

Great. 

We probably will. Then. 

All I really need is little beer. We can head to the crib in a little bit. I can show you how I live in a little bit more. You the love of the underdogs on top and I'm gonna shine on me until my heart stop. 

With me. 

OK, tools coming down in a different. 

Colour wheel wheel wheel. 

Pick the perfect you might want to take. 

Holiday girl. There ain't no Halifax few times all of that girl that. 

This my this my. 

It's not this. 

Ohh I thought it was this. It's it's ohh. 

No. 

Sorry about that. I'm on the green there, misheard lyric. 

Hmm. 

OK. 

Recap for me, yes, follow back to charts. 

Let's recap. Yes, holla back. Girl, Gwen Stefani still #1 ohh Sierra. Featuring luda. Yes #2 ohh new entry. We belong together Mariah. 

Uh-huh. 

Oh. 

She's emancipated from meanie. No, I know it's off the emancipation. She's been emancipated. I know. Yes, sure. 

Mimi has emerged. Ohh dear. Hate it or. Love it. With the game feats $0.50 number four and just little what with? 

Pretty soon. 

What you said, I didn't realise now. 

That's a lie. 

Sweet. 

The. 

Nelly brought out a song called. Lewit, I think two or three years ago. Because I was looking up, I was looking up. 

Did he? No Nelly. Sorry I was like. 

Yep, the $0.50 one. Yeah. And Nelly popped up. He's wasn't called just a little bit. It was, I think it was just called a little bit. But he did say just a little bit and it was a country crossover that he'd done in like, 2020 or 2021. I didn't know I. Didn't hear it at the time, but listen there. That was good. Was it? It's good. 

Yeah. 

No. Nice. 

Anyway, just thought I'd share that. 

It's a little tidbit I I mean. 

Yeah, a little bit of. 

Nelly, you love your new. 

I did back in the day. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about him at the moment. After the the the deadbeat dad story was a. 

Right. Why? Ohh that story. 

Bit just I'm not sure. 

Yeah, when he got done with the Pingers, well, his kid was getting born. Yeah. Hmm. 

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. He's alright. But let's talk about Mariah's new entry. We belong together. 

Sure that I think that would be good. The emancipation of Mimi from the emancipation of Mimi. 

Mario's. Mic drop moments. Because a couple of years ago we had charm bracelet. Yeah, charm bracelet and she just got. Panned by the critics for. 

Was that connected to the that movie that she did glitter? 

Glitter. No, I don't. I think she did the soundtrack to glitter or featured on the soundtrack. But charm bracelet came out. I it was either a little bit before or a little bit after, but it was both of those. Both of those together. 

Right. 

So she's run up, but. So Mariah is starting to get a bit of she's getting a stank about it. 

Was not. 

A. 

It wasn't a good time for her, so she got people did not like the movie and people did not like charm. 

Yeah, yeah. 

And so this was. A big mic drop moment for her. 

She kind of freshened up. 

Come back, baby. 

There ain't nobody there. Baby, baby. 

Yeah. Interesting choice for the single. Was that the first single off the mouth? 

That was the second single the album we spoke about the album a month or two ago. The album was released a. 

Was it right? 

Month or two ago, but there was a single. 

No recollection of that conversation. 

Of course, there was a single off the album that was released prior to the album being released, so I think around January or February I can't remember what the single was. It didn't really do much. This was single #2. 

Right, OK Ohh this one. This one did. Did long. 

But was just the the rebrand of Mariah. 

Well, it's. I wasn't going to say it's classic Mariah, but it's Mariah. Back to doing what, Mariah? Does best I can. 

Don't know how I feel about it because they talk about this song being her biggest song and it is the one that people now well, I mean. Apart from the Christmas one, obviously. 

Yes. There. 

But this is the one that people kind of go. Oh, yeah, that's that's Mariah. That's classic Mariah. I think 90s Mariah is classic. 

1. So like I had a vision. Of love. 

Yeah, and dream lover. And the stuff where she did the really, really high. 

Yeah. Which you like breaking the glass. Hmm. I don't know. Don't know. Probably like a butterfly thing. Don't ask me. I thought she was being emancipated from me. Me. I don't know. 

Notes. What was her first album called? Was it butterflies or something? Some was with butterflies. Always love butterflies. 

But I. 

I I I feel like 90s Mariah is signature Mariah, and this has come back Mariah, so I feel like this song should be a little bit lower. 

Yeah. 

This is this is. 

Down in the. 

Phoenix rising from the Ashes, Mariah. 

Yeah. 

But still not like, not iconic Mariah, but whatever. I love her, I love her, I love her. I just don't. 

Do you? 

The rats kind of attitude. I think she's great. 

I think she backs herself. I think this album sounds like she backed herself to come back. She's like, oh, yeah, you think I'm done? Watch this. Here you go. There, there. There's this stuff. See. Still got it. 

Yes. 14 weeks at #1 yeah. Billboard called it the song of the decades. 

Wow. So we're gonna have to do it because it's only just jumped into the charts. It's going up there. 

It's going to be around for a while. This was her 16th number, one single, tying with Elvis Presley. 

These. 

That right, she tied with the king. 

At the time, yeah. 2 Grammy Awards cleaned up at the BT Billboard and American Music Awards. 

MHM. 

Yeah. 

And it was. It was the big comeback, one of the best selling albums of 2005. Go to karaoke. I didn't realise I must not have ever watched. I didn't really watch a lot of video clips actually early 2000s. I just listened to. I just had the CD's. I wasn't. I wasn't really into watching the video clips at the time because we didn't have. We didn't have Foxtel at this stage. We're still a few years off Foxtel so. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

We didn't watch the video clips. 

It was still broke. 

All about 2007, 2008. We had a little bit more money. 

Yeah. 

So I never. Saw the video clip, but do you know? 

Who's in the video clip? 

So we became hood rich. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Who's in the video? 

Wentworth Miller from prison break. 

Ohh the the the the lead the lead guy. The drew the map from the first season pretty from the first season of prison break Wentworth Miller. 

Dude, that drew the. Map on. Body and. 

Ohh gosh. 

Yeah, loved him. Loved that show. It was a good. 

Yeah, that was a good. Show prison break and then they went back for another season. And like we're back in prison and we're gonna break out of a prison. And I was like. 

Very good show. Another yeah, that was a bit. Yeah, that got a bit too much, but I I loved. I loved. 

Can't do it. Can't do it. And then prison break was like. 

Come back, baby. 

And I'm like no prison break, because you're gonna keep breaking out of prisons every single season, and that's not acceptable. It's. 

They're going to be on to you. They're going to be on to you. They're like, you've already broken out of a prison. We're going to keep. 

An eye on you this time. Hard every day. And when I have my relaxed time, I. 

A work. 

Need a little bit more from my entertainment, OK? Don't be charm bracelet thing. Me when you could be emancipation of miming me, yeah. 

Yes, exactly or something. 

Exactly. 

It also the song came back in like 20 2020-2021. You know, the TikTok does this and I I I it was trending on TikTok I think there was a particular line from the song I can't remember what song. What part of the song it was but there was a particular line that everybody was lip syncing to and doing things on the TikTok. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. What I. 

And yeah, it became popular once again. 

TikTok Ruins everything, doesn't it? 

Ohh I like. I like that it helps people. 

Really. 

The youth of today discover good music from our our youngies I I do. 

Yeah, I do. I do like that about it too. I like it. And it kind of makes me feel incredible because it's like, well. 

I liked it first. 

Well, that was a big deal back in my day. 

I've got it on Cassingle children. 

Like you kids. Ohh, I could open your mind up to a whole world of stuff like this. Like the album that was released on the 17th of May that I was interested in from the band, this band were incendiary. They were on fire and they were very hot property at the time and everybody wanted to see what they were gonna do next. After the album Toxicity System of the Down I'm talking about, they released the album Mesmerise on the 17th of May. And I was I it's funny because I was like I had this album. 

Aye. 

Didn't didn't end up listening to it that much, and I think I just kind of I you gotta remember it's like post radio days and I was in a bit of a downward spiral at the moment, so I wasn't listening to music or doing anything at the time. But I I do remember getting this album and going. 

That's. 

Not OK because it was only 36 minutes long. I was outraged that they were turning in an album that went for less than half an. Hour, but there was. 

A reason wasn't there because there was there were two albums. It was a sets, yeah. 

Well, it's a two part set, yes. So they did mesmerise and then six months later they released hypnotise. So mesmerise and and hypnotise written and recorded. That as as one project that they said and I just think that this is like the you you guys are like I get it like you really like edgy and you have lots of political awareness and all of that stuff and everybody thinks you're like the hottest thing on the planet now. And so you split an album in half and you give us a you turn in 36 minutes. Music. And then you say you'll get the next one in six months because we just want to give this half room to. Breathe and I'm like. 

I love that. 

You're half joking. ******. You're a ******. 

I love that. I think that's great and it's. 

Yeah. 

Also a bit of a money. Grab. Let's be honest. Do you think I? 

Yeah, well. 

Think that's, I think. That's cool. I think that's. 

Pretty I don't know if it was full price. I think it was like. 

Good. 

25 bucks. Sorry, I think it was, like, 25 bucks. Yeah. 

Was it cheaper? Your fog bugs off. The albums were 30 bucks back. Then 2999. 

Yeah, something like that. About 30 bucks. So this is about 25. Although albums were coming down, I was starting to get around that $2025. 

Ohh, I remember when they became $24.00. 

And and so yeah, it just didn't. It just didn't sit well with me. What they've done and a lot of people would be like, well, that's a bit silly, isn't it? In hindsight, yes, it probably is. But I was young and foolish at the time and in pretty bad headspace. So that's what I thought about it. But the whole thing was that those. 

It was great. 

Teams war, media manipulation. They were getting more political as their career was going on system of a down and they were always work quite political cause their background is Armenian so they they've sung about the genocide over there and all of those sort of things. So they keep going with that political hypocrisy, consumer culture, mental fragmentation and and. 

Yeah. 

Really doubling down on that sound that they had like nobody else, really had that sound. And so there was, like, that that BYOB song bring your own bomb. 

Everybody. 

Right. 

The party have a really good time. 

Dancing in the desert. 

Yeah. So that, that manic stuff. And they do have a great sound. Nobody really sounds quite like system of it down and that those choruses very catchy on that album as well. There was a revenger, which was this. 

Yeah. 

Hmm. 

Melodic, angsty thing. There was question which was a proggy ballad about existential dread. And then sad statue, which is talking about all the blind patriotism and stuff there. And I think the the thing that made it a lot more unique as well and I don't know that I think this is one of the things that that didn't sit as well with me is Serge the the lead vocalist started sharing vocals with Darren they guitar player. Which and they were kind of harmonising with that stuff, and it was really good that in in, in the respect that they kind of contrasted each other, but I just felt like it was a bit. 

Hmm. 

Too much? That's what I just felt. Yeah. 

There's a lot, there's. Always a lot going on in. Their songs isn't there. 

Darren Darren had this really shrill kind of squawky like, you know, it was. It was definitely like. That you know they there, there was a juxtaposition between the two voices, I guess is what I was trying to say. Yeah, but it debuted at #1 on the Billboard 200, sold over 450,000 copies of first week certified Platinum. Multiple countries. They called it metal with a brain. An insanely focused chaos. That's what the critics were. Saying. 

Because there's a. Lot of commentary, but it wasn't. I think what they were saying was there's a lot of political commentary, particularly off the back of the Iraq war and 911, but it wasn't, it wasn't preachy. 

Yeah. 

Like some of the other stuff that we were hearing starting to come. Out. 

Yeah, there was definitely a fun edge to it, and you get that with the the catchy choruses, but it was a protest album, and it was probably one of the. 

Hmm. 

Last big ones, the. Last really big protest albums before my space and and all of that started to really take over that that conversation where it wasn't like. Albums being presented as just certain songs and everything kind of got really. Diluted after that so. 

Hmm. 

So you really shouldn't have a problem with them releasing 2 albums close together. 

Yeah. Like it's pretty, it's. Pretty lame in hindsight when you think about it, but but they're back, they're back and they're gigging against system of a down, which is extraordinary because I they don't get on all that well together. 

Wow. 

These days they come into. Australia, they don't have any confirmed dates in Australia, but they have been tour. Bring sporadically and doing stuff on and off, so they've gotta. They're definitely doing a stadium tour. I think in the States, so I wouldn't be surprised if when festivals come around and line UPS right now. So I mean, heaven forbid at the time of recording, no one's announced anything. But I know that like spilt milk's coming back. They've got good things and all of those other festivals. That they may be yet to it. I don't. Follow that speed anymore. I'm too old. 

You'll turn to dust. 

I've done festivals, I've done festivals many times, many, many times. 

Yes, you need a seat. You're at the age where you need a seat and a comfortable. 

Yeah, and they don't. 

Seat at that? Not just a plastic. 

Just take one of those portable portable seats that you get from BCF. You know it's. 

Flicky upper seat. 

Like it's like a I do know because you. 

Have. One, when we went and watched the air show. 

Well. 

No, that's that's that's a bit too big. That's a bit too cumbersome for a music fest, maybe one that's just on the end of a walking stick or something. You. 

Oh. Ohh one that you can you can. 

Know The Walking stick chairs. Yeah. Yeah, let's go to music news. Yeah. 

Oh, we had a big competition May 21st, 2005 Eurovision, the 2005 version, lots of glitter, lots of wind machines. 

Big. In here. 

Hmm. 

Yeah. Held in Ukraine, we spoke about this last year because the remember they they announced who's got it next and they said Ukraine and Russia. 

Yeah, Ukraine one. And they're like, oh. 

Russia gave it to Ukraine cause it was Russia last. 

Yeah. And then they were like, we're gonna host it now because if you win it, you gotta host. 

Year it was. 

Ohh, what are we gonna do? Yeah, that's right. Cause the winner. Yes. 

Yeah, which is good because this year or 2005, Eurovision was won by the Greeks. And I don't I think that they'd be a great host nation. They would feed you up, they would give you some. I had I used to the the the best sleepovers that I had when I was a kid with my Greek friends houses. 

Hmm. 

Because the food was. 

Good food. 

Just next level, awesome. And there was so much of. 

What food did you have? 

All like souvlaki, just like you would mates. Yeah. Just all kinds of fantastic Greek. And they owned a takeaway shop too. So. And then you get. You. 

What sort of take the? Greek takeaway or fish and? 

No, just a. 

Chips. 

A proper takeaway shop like not a Greek takeaway shop, as if they did Greek stuff. They do like civil liking and stuff, but they do pizza and fish and chips. 

Like pizza and fish and chips. 

As well it was. 

Heaven. 

I tell you that like, it's just like you, you don't realise how your life is as a kid. Until you go and stay, sleep over at your great friends here and then you're just like my parents. Don't feed me. 

With you great. Yeah, yeah. Or Italian friends. 

This is amazing. Yes, yes, indeed. 

Yeah. For Polish friends with the the cabbage rolls. Ohh God. 

You are. You're always warm, you're warm and you're well, fair. Yeah. 

And you're full. You're always full. That's very true. 

And and I. Think that's a tactic? I think that's how they keep you off the streets. Cause you're too full to want to move. 

Keep your calm stops with. 

Yeah, it's wonderful. So Greek one Greek 1, Helena Paparizou. Papa Rizu, does that sound right? Helena Paparizou with my #1. 

That sounds great. 

My love. 

I could see system of a down doing. A collab for that. 

Closer, I decided could see Holly Valance doing that song. 

Really with system of a down. 

That would be good. I'd enjoy that. 

Yes, yes. 

Yeah, well, system of down to similar very similar kind of sound really just with distorted guitars, yeah. 

It's very catchy. And she predicted my number one. And it was she won. She was Greece's for. 

And. Was she won it? 

First, ever, you're a vision winner and apparently still a banger in Europe. That one? Yep. Still playing it on the dance floors across the clubs. 

Hmm. Is that right? Yeah. I just. I can't. I just can't wait for Eurovision next, like in 2006. If Greece are hosting it. But it was a very big year because there was a record amount of countries that participated in Eurovision in 2540 thereof yeah, Bulgaria, Moldova. They debuted. Yeah, always. 

What? Wow. Nice. I don't think they did very well. 

Always think of like vampire movies or like you know. Evil Carpathian Lords that impale their victims and stuff. When you go to like Bulgaria and Moldova. 

The most. Well, Moldova had a drumming grandma, so you're a little bit off there. 

Is that right? Well, until she, until like the sun goes down and she turns into a wolf and needs everybody. 

What? But she. 

She was a fan. She was a fan favourite and still made the top 10. 

Hmm. Yeah, well there. 

You go well, I'd. I'd be excited by that. Was she the Bulgaria? Was she Bulgarian? 

She was the Moldover, didn't she? 

The Moldovan drumming. Drumming. Grandma. Yeah. Yes. The drums were made out of the skins of her victim. 

Granny. Cult classic. 

Cult classic. 

It would have been wonderful. 

Hmm. 

Romania was also a fan favourite. Yeah, with their song. Let me try percussion on oil barrels. 

Yes. 

There's a bit of a stomp kind of RIP off by. The sounds of it, yeah, yeah. 

Does sound like that? Yes, Denmark had a bit of a heartthrob. Jacob talking to you and he was a. 

Really. 

People said he. Had a teacher vibe, nice looking teacher vibe with a smooth voice. What teacher with a smooth voice. 

Yeah. 

For the hot teacher or hot for. 

Malta did well as well with Angel power ballad. I think they came second actually. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, right. You gotta have a if you're doing you Eurovision isn't Eurovision without a power ballad really? And I reckon if you go for the power ballad, you're a chance at the top five. 

The. Ballads, yeah. Yeah, I think so. 

If you if you do a power ballad, yeah, you gotta hit the notes. You really do. 

As long as you can hit the note. As long as. Can hit the notes well. Belgium came LA, do you say with Legrand seal? No. .0 points. How can you get? 

Oh, that's a bit sad. Ah. Zero. Well, the judges don't like it. They won't allocate any points. So like, no, I'm sorry. Like we wanna go to Greece next. You so regardless of what kind of song Greece put on like, have you seen the food over there? Have you seen how? 

Maybe that. Yeah, maybe that did help as the judge and. 

Exactly. I've got a I've got a feeling that the judges are like, well, where do? We want to go next year. 

Yeah. Where's gonna? What's gonna have this food? 

Although you know, I don't think they would have done that. The I know Ukraine. Yeah. Sounds like a hoot. You know, I I'm not sure. I mean, Ukraine was OK back then, I believe. 

Yeah. 

It's not as bad as what. 

It is now Terry Wogan. Yes, was full snark mode as he usually is, calling it the greatest international cheese fest on Earth. 

I love Terry Wogan, doing Eurovision, it was. 

The best it was the first time they all had to go through a semi. Final. Yeah, and the Interval Act featured A Ukrainian singer called Green Jolly with the song together we are many. 

That. 

It's true. 

Oh, no. You woman. No. Was a bit. There was a bit of unrest there because remember we talked. 

That's a true thing. 

About the orange revolution. 

Ohh that's right. Yes. So they were. 

They were having trouble with Russia back. 

Then they were too. They were so. Corrected. 

It added a bit of. A political undertone grand jolly. 

Yes, I look my bad. I'm a very ill informed person. Yeah, this is not my day job, so I won't give that one up. But Terry Wogan, I mean, that was his day job for so long. Yes, hosting Eurovision, amongst other things, he was. And this is this is actually from 2001, but I just I had to feature some of. 

His commentary give a warm welcome to your hosts of the. Night. Natasha Corner and Shawn Piedmont. 

Natasha. 

On as we know them. 

The Little Mermaid and Doctor Dent. 

This pair will kill you. 

Hope nobody says that about us on the podcast. The Princess and Doctor death. They still kill you. 

No, it's the two old ladies that hate Corey Feldman. That's that's us. That's our synopsis. Why are these two old ladies hating on Corey Feldman? 

Ohh that's right. Yes we got called a couple. Of old ladies. 

Yeah. 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you get. That's what you get when you take the **** out of, you know, Bulgaria, Moldova. You get called an ugly old lady that doesn't like Corey Feldman anyway. 

Hilary Friedman. 

That's a story. For another time, in case you're just joining us or you want to revisit some old episodes, you can find it. But. In the in the T -, 20 R fives in the annals of T -, 20, let's go to the box office. Yeah. Let's move from the annals to the box. 

In the annals. Office. Yes, new number one in the US, the romcom that dared to ask what happens when your future mother-in-law's Jane Fonda and she's fully unhinged. 

I know like you had me at Jane Fonda, but an unhinged Jane Fonda, I'm not sure. 

I'm not looking for perfect, I just want a sweet guy. 

Maybe. He'll complete you. 

Charlie had given up on trying to find the perfect man until she let Ohh. Sorry. 

Sorry. 

Kevin. 

Hi. 

Hi. 

Today, she's going to meet his mother. 

I'm nervous. 

Don't be nervous. She's gonna love you. 

You're bringing a girl home. 

To meet your mother, Neil. Kevin. Will introduce you to someone's mom. Charlie, very nice. 

To meet you, it's a pleasure to meet. 

You, Lisa there. 

And get the surprise of a lifetime. 

Ohh my God. Charlie, will you marry me? No. No, was too sudden. She's in shock. 

Yeah, you're going to need a moment. 

Alone. I'll be right back. 

And there's some stronger than this. 

That's the mum reacting. 

To took it very well, obviously. 

The the thing. You know what? The first thing that I think about is it's like Jennifer Lopez's character is Charlie. 

Hmm. 

And then the boyfriend, Michael Vartan, who's played, he's Kevin. So it's Charlie and Kevin. Hmm. And that's confusing. Right. Because of obviously like there. And I do look, I do know that there are some. 

Yeah. 

Girls named Charlie. There are, yes. 

Yes, really short for Charlotte, isn't. 

It well, I don't. I guess. Yes, of course it would be. But Charlie and Kevin, I mean you're confused. Yes. You just think maybe it's sleeping. 

Eventually. 

Jennifer Lopez doesn't look like. A Charlie though, let's be honest. 

Charlie and Kevin are coming out from San Francisco this weekend. I'm like, OK, cool. I'll set up the. Spare room. 

So Charlie was played by Jennifer Lopez and obviously Jane Fonda is Kevin's mother. 

Yes. 

With serious control issues, 0 boundaries and she just does not want to let the boho Charlie. Maybe that's why, cause she's boho she's called. Charlie, that's a boho thing to do. 

She's the yes. OK, she's the classic mother-in-law from hell, obviously. 

I think this movie actually coined the phrase monster in law and then people did start referring to their mother in laws as monster and laws off the back of. 

Did it. 

The movie. 

Really. I mean, it's an age old thing. The mother-in-law joke has been is is a time honoured tradition, you know, in comedy. Yeah. 

It is, yes, it is and. I think this one was she didn't want. She didn't want her son to get married. Very protective and fake illnesses, screaming matches, all kinds of sabotage. Yeah, I think meet the parents. Unhinged. 

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this is some. This was big because Jane Fonda had not been in a film for about 15 years, so it was a big comeback for her. And she really stole the show in this film. She she had very good comedic. 

But throw in. 

Bridal fittings. 

Hmm. 

Umm. Timing and I I honestly think, I mean she was the best and probably only. Good thing about this movie. 

Well, Jennifer Lopez, though, was still the ROM com ROM com wean at this point, so she she was a big star as well. I think in in one scene she accidentally Jane accidentally slapped Jlo for Realsies and left a bruise on. 

Of course, yes, yeah. 

Her. That's good. 

And they did. Jenny from the Bronx, come out. She's like, knocked Jane Fonda's 2 front teeth out or something. 

Well, yeah. 

No, I think Jane was mortified, but. 

Sorry, you can't mess with Jane Fonda. She did aerobics all through the 80s. She will pick you. Up. 

Monster in law also number one at the Australian. Box office so. 

Of course, everyone loves a good mother-in-law. Joke, yes. 

Let's hand over. Head over to the small screen. 

The little box. 

We had a big. Reality show debut on the 17th of May 2005. 

UPN takes you inside the private life of Britney Spears and Kevin. Federline that's controversy. That's what they want. 

To see. 

And never before seen your videos? You're sexy. The moments that only the two of them share until now. Ready and you got it. Premiere 2:00 PM next Tuesday. 

Can you handle my truth? 

I do remember this. I do remember the show. I do remember seeing a little bit of it. And I do remember going. I can't watch this because it's just so big. House as far as the quality of the video on how it was shot. I just it. I just wanted to ******* every time it because it was just moving around. 

Hmm. 

It looked like. Filmed on a calculator. It was uncomfortable. Yeah, it was an uncomfortable watch. 

All over the place it was it was uncomfortable to watch on so many levels, but. 

And poorly lips a lot. 

Yes. 

As well, like the the Night mode camera. 

Yes. 

I know it was just like. 

And a lot of. 

Zits they shot a lot of it themselves. They were running around with the cameras and stuff, so please, I mean, you've seen Britney spinning around all the time. Don't put a camera in her hand and get her to film stuff and then put that stuff that she's filmed on the TV because it's gonna be spinny and horrible, and it's gonna make everyone confused and sick. 

Well, the lot of it. 

She was, yes. 5 episodes, plus a bonus. Clip show and this was really the whole premise was about their romance building up to the engagement and obviously the wedding. And I think we have played some of the the the episode from the wedding. I liked the wedding episode. I thought that was nice. 

Ohh, that's right where she's surprised her mum and all. Of that stuff. 

That was nice. Lynn was very emotional and. 

I think that had some some professional camera crew intervention at that stage. I think it was a combination of both actually, but it's, yeah. 

That's that's odd. And they ate. They ate a lot and I'm pretty sure Kevin was stoned the whole time. 

A. Yeah. Well, yeah. And like, why not? 

I'm pretty sure he was and they just ate cake and chips and there was a lot of. 

Goodnight. 

Yeah. 

You just got the munchies the entire. 

Smoking there was. A lot of drinking and there was a lot of chips, I think. Yeah, cheese. 

Time. You're not sure if you're watching like Britney and Kevin or Harold and Kumar really. 

And bacon balls. I think he ate cheese and bacon balls and I think I was offended. I just, I don't know why that would be your chip of choice. Cheese and bacon balls, but that's. 

Did he? Why are you? Why are you offended by cheese and bacon balls? 

The one you. Never eat. They're just offensive. 

What are you Jewish? The bacon. 

And make your fingers yellow and you just have a funny smell. You have a funny smell after you eat them and it kind of seeps out your paws. 

Well, fair enough. You do. 

And they're the chips that I always left in the 12 pack. I'd never eat the cheese and bacon balls. I need no chips over eating. 

I I I do. 

Cheese and bacon balls. 

I do know the smell you're referring to. Like I can taste the smell when you say it. 

Yeah. 

I can and you can. You can smell it coming out of people's skin. 

The cheese and bacon bowls, yeah. 

And when your fingers are yellow for days and it's just, it just sums up Kevin. He is very cheese and bacon. 

Umm and anything you touch. You know there's transference. Yeah, there's that, chief. 

Ball, isn't he? And he wore a lot of wipes, which. 

Well, yes. 

Is dangerous if you're a. Fan of cheese and bacon balls. 

And then I mean well that if you look at the colour that Brittany was at that time, she was kind of. Like a cheese and bacon ball as well. 

Maybe that's why maybe it wasn't fake tan. Maybe if you eat a lot of. 

Because Kevin's just eating cheese and bacon balls and then putting his. 

Them it just starts. 

She's all over her. Yeah. 

Yes, maybe that's what it was. 

Manhandling it with these cheese and bacon fingers. 

And it was. Kind of. I don't know. There was something about it and I think cause I I didn't like Kevin because Kevin. 

Yeah, because of the Shar Jackson thing cause. 

Yeah, she was pregnant with his child. He just ran off with Brittany, and I just didn't think that any after all the just and drama. I just didn't think any anyone was good enough for. Brittany at this point. 

And he'd bailed to go and marry Britney. Hmm. Well, did you think he was a gold digger? 

I thought he was a girl. Did it? Absolutely. And I just thought, no, I don't trust this guy. Mm-hmm. And he eats cheese and bacon balls. 

Yeah. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, exactly. And you can't trust guys that she's grown men for these, she's in baseball. 

Eat cheese and bacon balls. 

But it just and it felt it felt a little. 

It felt like you were spying on them. It just felt a little. It's that like you're watching someone's sex tape and you shouldn't be like, an unauthorised sex tape. 

Really. Yeah, it did a little bit. It was, yeah. 

Just I was just like. 

I don't know that. 

I should be watching this. 

Was that was that was them with their creative control, you know, and think about how many video cameras they would have wrecked with those cheese and bacon ball fingers. 

I just. There's something you had it. It would be shiny and greasy. 

Ohh, to be really gross. The play button that gets stuck down. 

Ohh. And the dust the bacon dusts. 

Ohh exactly. Jesus Christ, Chester the Cheetah is going to sue us. We need to. Can we go to something else? We keep talking about this. 

Cheetos are fine, not cheese and bacon balls, just the cheese and bacon. Fine with cheese. Yes, but I'm fine with Cheetos. Just have a problem with cheese and bacon. 

Yeah. OK. Sorry. Don't they make them. I don't think. I don't think Chester's really gonna give us. He's just gonna be upset. Yeah. Yeah, I think so, too. 

I don't think he. Is either. I don't think he. Cares. Don't I? Don't think he liked Kevin Federline either. 

Yes, I don't know if I was watching the Blair Witch project or Bloody Brittany and Kevin. 

To be honest. It was very jumpy and it made you feel a bit a bit. Ill and it just. Shows how different when you think about, say, keeping up with the Kardashians. 

Hmm. 

Now when you know the the full glam squad and the lighting and the angles and the different cameras. 

See with the Kardashians, Sir. They're only are they only like 2 years after this, aren't they? 

And. It's not long, is it? Yeah, a. 

Couple of years. 

Think about that, my God. 

But the difference the difference in how, umm, celebrity, reality, but also the idea of the sort of the pay wall too. They were just giving it away for free. Whereas now it's sort of like. 

Hmm. Yeah. 

Like you know, subscribe for behind the scenes footage and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, they could have thought that through a bit then. 

Hmm. I don't think they're being very strategic at all. I don't really. You know what the let's go to some structured structured entertainment, yes, because back in the early 2. 

I don't think so either. TV contents. Good cameras. 

Persons every afternoon I just. I just felt like this show was on all the time, all the time. Like five nights a week, five nights a week. Everybody Loves Raymond. 

Ah, yes, yes. 

Everybody Loves Raymond five nights a week, have Simpsons. Everybody Loves Raymond news, whatever. I don't know it. Not necessarily in that order, but it just always seemed to be on around 7:00, maybe 7:30. I don't know, five nights. 

Yes, yeah, I think it was seven. Yeah, 7:00 to 7:30. It went up against home. 

A week. 

Yeah, yeah. And away, like after neighbours and before whatever else was gonna hit that that prime time 7:30 thought was Everybody Loves Raymond. So the final episode on the 16th of May goes to air of Everybody Loves Raymond in 2005. 

Hmm. 

Live on CBS, creatively called the Finale. 

No. 

With 32.9 million people tuning in, which made it the tenth most, 10th most what's theory finale in US heavy history at the time up there with friends, Seinfeld and math. That's mash, not maths. OK. And and it was it was it, they nearly killed off Raymond in the final episode he had a health scare in the episode. He goes in for a tonsillectomy, but under the anaesthesia, he doesn't immediately wake up. And so for like 30 seconds, the show is like teasing that he might have died on the table. But he's OK because. 

Oh dear. 

Hmm. 

Sitcom. Right. And and and this is what I actually love because you know lots of season finales, it's all built up and it's all of that sort of stuff. But it's like with Everybody Loves Raymond, what they did was it was just the whole family gathering at at at the kitchen table and all mingling and doing what they normally do. It's like he come back from hospital. 

Hmm. 

And everything was back to normal and it it just closed out in the way that I thought it would look like if you were just backing out of the the scene and moving on to another thing like it was, it was really cool. 

Hey, Alvin and the chipmunks. 

Ohh French toast. 

Cool, you don't want. That battery I. Burned it? No, I. Don't mind it my daddy. Hi. 

Your father's. Give me my tools. No, he broke my stove. You asked me to. 

Work on it. Yes, I did tell. 

You the hit with a hammer that's been asking. 

For it for 35 years, I don't know. 

Oh. 

Where to eat, though? Good morning everybody. Hey, we got. The French toast. No, no, no, don't. 

No. Worry I'll make something, yeah. 

It's hungry and big. If you want to get. 

Hey. 

Move out of the way. 

Have some food in the meantime. Right. It's getting a little crowded. 

In. Here we need a bigger table. 

Hi who would like some chocolate chip pancakes? 

You're being cute. You're only gonna have syrup all. 

Over your chin. Now, right now. By the way, what good was that operation if you still sound exactly the same? 

Give me my. 

Hammer, I'm glad it sounds the same. He's got a beautiful voice, he. 

Could have been a singer. Yeah. This ones for you, Robert. You are the sunshine of my life. 

Thank you. That's right. 

That's why I'll be around you. 

Not green bananas, though, because they make me, you know, they make my stomach. 

All weird, you know that. 

That's it. That's how they wrap the show up. It's just like it's like. 

Could you speed that up? That that was a lot. 

No, it was a lot, but it was. It was like it kind of started, I mean. The IT was a bit more all in at the end, but there wasn't really any gimmicks to it. You know, it was just like you came into that show and you left exactly the same way and that's what they did after nine seasons for 96 to 2005, it was. It was one of those shows that you did love or hate. 

Though my grandmother hated the mum. 

Ditchy. 

Well, the yeah, the mother-in-law. She. No, she just. 

Was a bit. Close to home. Because often that's what happens, right? It's like, really. 

No, she just hated her. She used to just sit there and she just ***** about her the whole time she was watching. She used to say she's an Angel. 

Yes. Yeah. Oh really? 

And I think in Dutch, I think it just means which I don't know what exactly that means that no, I didn't. But she she just had this problem. I think too, because I think Jag, which she called YAG, was all at the same. So she was probably she's probably just a bit ****** *** that we chose everybody loves. 

We like, well, it will. It will. It takes wonder. No one. No. OK. Yep. 

Yeah. 

Oh yeah, I. Competing with Yas. She wanted to go watch all that, the handsome Flyboy Air Force lawyers, as opposed to just Rama Romano whining through his nose through the whole thing. No, I think that was the beauty of Everybody Loves Raymond. Right, like. 

Yes, she missing her. He was whiny. I didn't like him. 

He was, but it was very well cast and very well written and I think that's that was what. Gave it its longevity, like the cast were just sensational. 

And then we saw the brother at his comedy club and he did some swears. 

Brad Garrett? Yes. 

And I just didn't know what to do. 

That was wonderful. When we when we stayed in Las Vegas at The MGM Grand, there was a comedy club. Brad Garrett, the brother from Everybody Loves Raymond, was doing a residency, and it was just it was a standard. Like, it was a little. It was under The MGM Grand, a tiny little comedy bar venue with some tables and stuff and a little. 

That was just. I couldn't handle. I couldn't handle him. Oh my gosh. 

He was angry. 

Hmm. 

It was very intimate and very small and he got up there and told some of the most ribald and racist. 

That's true. 

And remember, you had a Heckler, that woman. 

And it was. Yeah, well, that was that. That wasn't for him, though. That was that was during the support because it was like 3 supporting comedians and people were progressively getting more and more loaded cause it's in Vegas and there's always this group of females at comedy clubs that just can't handle. They just can't handle their alcohol and start mouthing back at the comedian. 

Yeah. 

She always like a hens night or something. Ohh yeah, mum's gone wild. Yeah, you don't do that. You. 

And it's never a good time. 

Especially when you're sitting. 

Up the front so they got removed from the venue and then when we thought it couldn't get any better, Brad Garrett came out and just started telling all these filthy jokes and it. So it was such a interesting thing. It was completely in contrast with the IT was wonderful. It was so good. 

It freaked me out. 

Just go to something a bit more. 

Wholesome like video game? Uh-huh. 

Gaming news umm we had E3, which is the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2005 on May 17th. 

Yeah, but rather than doing 3 E's, they just call it instead of it being E, they just call it E3. 

Eve, sorry. 

I like that. Yeah, nerds are. Good with acronyms and that sort of. 

They can be, they can be, and they can also be perplexed. 

Stuff and code. Names always impressed. 

And mysterious and a little bit scary sometimes. 

But this is this is the Expo to be at, because that's where where they drop, they drop all the the launches and the announcements and all the secrets. And Nintendo dropped a a sneaky earth shattering teaser that would reshape gaming and living rooms. 

E3 Ohh yeah still is. Uh-huh. Yeah. 

Forever. 

That would be the Nintendo Revolution Revolution revolution. 

We gave you the. 

A new Game Boy, a new game to play on them. 

And now you say. You want our revolution? 

Well. 

It's so awkward that that little keynote there from E3, where they do that because. And I was really worried for the presenter cause he's not great and he didn't really stick. He didn't really stick to landing and it was a little bit awkward. But it's E3 and I think that the E3 people are probably a little bit more forgiving than than perhaps I am and and that doesn't make me feel great about myself, but they were very excited when he held it above his head and said well. 

He stumbled. He had a little stumble. Giving yeah. Then you yeah. 

Hmm. 

We've got one, but yeah, they went nuts. They went nuts. So there. 

You go and the revolution later became what we now know. 

Yes. 

Is the we. 

Ohh well, I think that's a better name than revolution, but not by much. 

We. 

I mean it's. 

WWII. 

It's certainly smaller and more simpler. It's more compact. It's an economical name. 

Yes. And so obviously Sony and Microsoft are showing off the horsepower, the HD graphics and Nintendo's like, hey, Grandma can play tennis with the TV remote. 

Yeah, yeah. It's it's amazing. You know what you've gotta. 

I'm like. We gave them the the Nintendogs and the brain training. Now they can play tennis. 

Now they can play tennis in their lounge room. You've gotta give Nintendo credit because. 

I'm. 

Because they were not gonna be behest to the status quo. They were just doing their own thing. They're running their own race, really, with the weed. They were. I for me, for my demographic, no interest in the Nintendo Wii whatsoever, none whatsoever. But it really did take off when it took off. 

Yes. 

The family. These people were playing tennis in the lounge room. 

People were doing exercise, people were using gaming to actually do exercise. Remember the there was there was a hula hoop and there was the board. You could do the yoga on all kinds of stuff. And it was called the revolution because it was going to revolutionise how we play games and it did. It did. It was backwards. 

Exactly. I mean, what a revolution. Yes. Yeah. The balance board, yeah. 

Yes, yes. 

Compatible with all the GameCube. Games connected to the Internet, so you could you could download all the old games. Uh, there was wireless capabilities, but there was still a bit of a secret. 

Yes. Yes. Yeah, they hadn't. They hadn't revealed what the controller was. You know that and and they. So you didn't know all they had at the the E3 thing was a black box that stood upright and then they're not even that colour, though they ended up being white. So so nobody knew what the controller was, which was the big thing. 

And they did say it was going to disrupt every. 

The controller. 

Everything. It's gonna be a game changer. And they kept the controller secret until the Tokyo Game show later that year, which obviously only added to the mystery. 

Yes. Yes, that's that and that and but. But when they did that, that's when all hell broke loose for the Nintendo Wii. Really when you think. About it and it it was. 

Game changing because it shifted. From graphics and and sitting there into gameplay. 

Into waving into waving a a plastic. 

Motion control. 

Oblong around in your putting your a plastic oblong in your hand and waving it around in front of your TV. 

And we say it's game changing, but I remember when it was first announced and people saw it. People were giving it crap. Everyone's like, what is this? Why would you do that? That's dumb. 

Hmm. 

It took a little while, but. Then it went nuts. Yeah, outsold all of the other consoles. And it redefined who games were for, because all of a sudden you do, you have the whole family, you have the whole family joining in. Yeah, doing the things together because you could have, you could have multiple things. What are they called? We. 

Grandma flying Chinese, yes. Yes. 

Moats I only got. 

We. We moats. 

That recently it's like remote wee Moat. I only just got that probably about five years ago. 

It's a. Mate, really. 

Yeah, come on. Yeah, I thought it was we. Mote like 2 separate words. 

No, no. The Wii mode. Yeah. And they had the, the nunchuck that they plugged into the other side of the Wii Mote. So you had the two things. It was all very peculiar from a gamer point. 

Hmm. 

Of view it launches. In 2006 and outsold both the Xbox 360 and the PS3, and it was quite. Cheap. It was $249 with Wee Sports, which had all the difference. 

Ohh and that's that's the thing that the whole family could pile in on, yes. 

That everybody, everybody loved and and the remote or the Wii Mote was a revolution. Until it became a projector. 

Yeah, I was gonna say it was like it's. I think if you had a cathode ray tube TV at the time you you'd just. 

Yeah, son, you'd be sawn. 

Be. Ping, you just bounce off. 

It it hit you in the head bounce back. 

But if, but if you had a, if you had a flat screen, you you're in a bit of trouble really, and that that flat screens were not cheap in the early 2000s. Let's not forget that. 

And knocks you out. Well, one. No one UK insurance company estimated. That they had to deal with over 1000 flat screen TV's that were broken in the first year of Weeds released just in the UK. 

Because the the oblong wee Moat would slip out of your hand while you were playing tennis and collide with the screen. 

Yes. Embed into the plasma screen, smashing coffee tables windows, even a fish tank. Someone broke a fish tank. 

Ohh that's disastrous. 

That's terrible, isn't it? 

Yeah, that's not great. People who picking up the fish, flailing off the floor. If only they had a wrist. 

Ohh gosh and. Wrap well, they did have a wrist strap, but apparently the the OG wrist straps were too flimsy. They were very thin and there are a lot of. 

Ohh, is that like a safety recall? 

There are a lot of wrist strap failures, and so a few weeks after launch, Nintendo actually acknowledged this and launched A voluntary wrist strap replacement programme. This feels like the airbags in the car, yes. 

That's very good. Launch is the word. Yeah. Wow. 

Yes. So then everybody got upgraded free, thicker straps. Went out. Yeah. And then they introduced the silicon sleeves, which meant, well, they said that that would reduce the accidents, but just doesn't hurt as much. 

Well. 

When it hits you, I think. 

Still gonna stuff up your TV if it hits you there? I was gonna say, like, yeah, I'd be taking them like, yeah. 

There was even a lawsuit. There was there was a lawsuit in the US saying that the original straps were defective. Nintendo eventually settled without admitting wrongdoing and then just upped the the security and safety warnings and the startups. 

Ohh, that's it. Don't don't ever admit you did anything wrong in America. 

And remember. Remember when? You turn it on, it tells. You to put the wrist ***** **. 

Yes, it gives you a safety instruction. 

Don't. 

Thank you. 

Awesome. Yes, back away from the screen. It says, doesn't it? Something like don't let go. 

Yes. 

Ohh, but I do love watching. The videos, the viral videos of people breaking. 

People smashing their screens well, my cousins wife did. 

Yeah, I think that's really good. 

Hmm. 

That happened to them, yeah. 

Really I didn't realise we had 1° of separation from a wee make disaster, no. 

From one you didn't know that our son found out about it, and he asks my cousin about it every time, and I think my. 

That's excellent. Reminds him. Hey. 

Cousin's still a bit upset about this to me. 

Remember, when you misses your TV? Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, apparently there are people that joke that we sports bowling cause more property damage than most natural devices, which I think is a little bit inappropriate. 

Yeah, I I think he's it's still a bit of a sore spot. 

Ohh God, what an episode. We've found out. Kylie. We've had Wii Motes we've had. Ah. 

Mariah entering the charts, the roller coaster. 

Ohh yes, we've had roller coasters. 

Oh, it has been a rollercoaster, hasn't it? 

Brittany and Kevin Fedele on. Yeah. And now we've got the hatches, matches and dispatches. Clue. We're at the end. The safety bar is about to come up. And you are. You are almost ready to depart the vehicle. But first. 

Ohh yes. 

A celebrity that passed away on the 17th of November that said this. 

Ohh what is it that no man wants to have yet? No man wants to lose a lawsuit, correct boy wonder. 

If you said Frank Gorshin. You would be correct, Frank Gaussian. Who's that? That's the guy that played the Riddler in the well. Yes, the OG, as far as I'm concerned. In the 1960s, Batman TV series. This is before Jim Carrey ever put on the green jumpsuit. There was Frank Gorson there as the Riddler, the original. And I think still one of the. 

The OG. 

Best. He was awesome. Gaussian wasn't just an actor though, he was a an impressionist. He started. I think he. Well, I don't know that he started. He headlined acts in Vegas. And he did a lot of stand up as well. He had. He was really good at mimicking and doing impersonations, and I think he got his break doing impersonations of stars like Kirk Douglas, James Cagney and Burt Lancaster. And he was so good at it. But. But it was on Batman where he really got famous. With that, that laugh and obviously the the green skivvy and the hat and. Questionmark and all of that sort of stuff, but he'd been on the Ed Sullivan show. He'd been on Star Trek. He took the stage as George George Burns in a one man show called Say Goodnight Grace. Easy and he was just a a pretty great actor that that I think a lot of us at outrage would definitely remember that. 

Hmm. 

I just loved. 

The the 1960s Batman TV series when I was a kid and it. 

That was the one with. 

Came on TV. Yeah, it was. 

The beef **** and. Wonderful. Yeah, that was. That's on about 4:30 or five everyday. I remember that one something. 

Yeah, yeah, I've got the box set out at the back. I I I thoroughly enjoy it and I do put it on from time to time because it's very comforting. But he. Yeah, poor Frank passed away in May 2005, just days before his final TV appearance aired, which is quite poetic. He's 70 years old. 

Wow. 

Aged. 2. 

Anyway, that's the end on that sad note. The Riddler's gone. Do you know? 

So wait so? 

I guess that's it. We've got stuff next week though, haven't we? 

Ohh big moments in Australian news next week, Chappelle Corby is sentenced in it. 

Yeah. Well, that is like one of the biggest stories of the year along with the because we had the Bali 9 and then we've got and we and after the Bali 9. 

Is. Yes. 

You thought well, what? 

Yeah. 

How is this girl getting caught just after what had happened? Recently we've got a book we didn't read. They're always fun. You know what else is big next week, there's two things Anakin turns to the dark side next week. 

Of course. 

Yes. 

Ohh yes. 

Yeah. So we get to talk about *. 

Wars, Star Wars. We will talk about next week. We will do. 

Goodbye. 

That. 

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