Ringtone royalty: the rise of the crazy frog

Rewind to 5 to 11 June 2005 when Crazy Frogs topped the charts, Coldplay went full galaxy-brain and a Chinese spy scandal had Aussie politicians sweating harder than a velour tracksuit in summer.

🕵️‍♂️ Defection drama.Two Chinese officials blew the whistle on a massive spy network operating in Australia. Allegations included intimidation, surveillance and student kidnappings.

📦 Powder panic.White powder scares hit Parliament House and embassies around Canberra. Turns out it wasn’t Anthrax—just another week in early 2000s mail-based chaos.

🔪 Dr. Death exposed.Surgeon Jayant Patel was finally called out after years of botched surgeries and ignored warnings. Murder charges, inquiries and national outrage followed. Paging Nurse Hoffman, the real MVP.

🎾 Nadal’s clay coronation.A 19-year-old Rafael Nadal steamrolled the French Open on debut, while Justine Henin-Hardenne returned to form in a flawless final. Pirate pants = power, apparently.

🐸 Crazy frog domination.Axel F hit #1 and brought chaos to every Nokia in existence. It started as a ringtone. It ended marriages. Arguably the most cursed bop of the decade.

💿 Coldplay gets cosmic.X&Y dropped and Coldplay went synthy, moody and full existential crisis. “Fix You” had us weeping. “Speed of Sound” had us... confused but intrigued.

🎬 Welcome to the jungle.Madagascar hit cinemas, gave us dancing lemurs, neurotic lions and reminded everyone that escape from New York doesn’t end at JFK.

🎮 Games gone wild.California kicked off its crusade against violent video games. Gamers raged, Arnie approved and the Supreme Court eventually said “nah.”

📺 CNN turns 25.The news network that changed everything took a victory lap with highlight reels and archival gold. Shoutout to the OG anchor couple David and Lois.

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Chapters

• 0:00 intro
• 0:21 show opener
• 10:18 news
• 25:24 sport
• 27:44 music
• 38:50 movies and tv
• 51:26 gaming
• 57:38 open up the boombox
• 1:01:07 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:05:44 show closer

Transcript

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

June 2000. 

20 This is the talk show. 

Ice breaker. Don't judge me up. This is bananas. Do you see where this is? My question is, who approved that? Not really. 

Welcome to T -, 20, the podcast that digs up the good, the bad and the absolutely what the. From this exact week 20 years ago from political scandals ringtone chart toppers, we'll give you nostalgia with sarcasm, sass and a fair. The secret shame as well, which is not so secret now that it's on a podcast. If you have owned a Motorola razor or feed anthrax in the mail, not the band. The powder or downloaded a frog ringtone for about 5 bucks. You're in the right place with your host, Joe and Mel. Hello. 

Mel can confirm I never downloaded a frog ringtone. Yeah, I downloaded a lot of ringtones in my day, spent a lot of my part time, job money on the old ringtones, but never a frog one, never a frog. 

Did you? Water weights, yeah. Those are the micro transactions that you love. Yeah, they certainly do. 

They add up and when accidentally hit that Internet globe button on your Motorola razor and you're in. Debt for life. 

The whole plan for the rest of your life. 

My goodness, we are rewinding at 5 to 11 June 2005 this. 

Week you also made allegations of kidnappings. People being kidnapped and being taken back to China. Is that correct? 

I don't want to repeat what I've said. 

Ohh, he doesn't want to repeat himself. 

I've already said it weren't you. Listening. 

It's huge breaking news in Australia this time 20 years ago. Stories of defection and Chinese espionage as told to Liz Hayes. On 60 minutes. We'll get into that a bit later on. 

Hmm hmm. 

I think. 

Go crazy and get the crazy frog it's. 

A wrinkle? No, let's not say we. Did I remember those? Ads. How obnoxious and annoying. 

It was in amongst remember hot dogs up late remember the ringtone? I think I think hot dogs was sponsored. 

Ah, hot dogs are flights. 

By the crazy frog. 

Big Brother Housemate makes good gets an up late TV show that nobody else wants to. Host. 

Funded by Crazy Frog, ringtone 20 years of crazy frog ringtone, Can you believe it? 

Calls himself hot dogs. Yes. Yes, absolutely. 

We were told that we had to continue to do these. Conditions. It was almost like he was really looking for people to operate on. 

This is a horrible, horrible news story. Doctor death down under. Giant Patel faces murder charges after a really bad run as a hospital surgeon. And that was Tony Hoffman, one of the nurses at the hospital on Australian story. We'll talk more about the. Giant Patel story in the. 

News, Michelle. But on a lighter note, yes. Was at the mall the other day. 

Yes, it's always light. When you go to the mall. 

Hello I'm surprised actually that there's still malls around these days, to be honest. Yeah, the mall, the mall is not what? 

Isn't it really? 

It used to be when. We. 

Ohh, that and that's a shame too. Yeah, so I loved going to the mall just hanging out like a male. 

Were younger it is, it is. Rat. Umm I was there the other day and they've got this fairly new sports shop. I think it's called JD Sports. Look, that's been around for ages in Sydney and Melbourne and it's fairly. 

Yeah. Yeah. But you know what it. 

New for Canberra. Fairly. Oh, it's probably been there for. I just don't really. 

Expensive tracksuits? 

Well, I went in there. 

Like day tracksuits? Expensive. I don't wanna boom too early. I will boom later on in the show. But why are tracksuits expensive? 

The other why? Well, I I think I think we're gonna move into some booming. I'll went in there. And the first thing. I thought is this is. Too loud? It's very. 

Bright. 

And it's very loud. It's very loud in here. And it was like the chemist because I felt out of out of place. Yeah. And it was loud. And it was bright. And I thought, I've just got to move through here before someone asks, can I help you? Because I don't know if they can. Well, I don't know if there's. 

You can you can start by turning the music down and dimming the light. 

Any help that can be offered? 

It's you gotta be careful what context you say that in. Yes. Yeah. 

So I was trying to. Yes, I was trying to move through there quickly before I got asked before I got approached and acknowledged that's what we call it in the industry when I worked. 

Uh-huh. 

At. Grace brothers. Yeah, I do approach and acknowledge every customer. Have they been approached and acknowledged? No, we'll go over. 

Approaching and acknowledging. Really. 

Ever. 

And do it. No, leave me alone. Part of the rules. Leave me alone. It's too bright and too loud. 

Anyway, so before. Before I got approached and acknowledged I went in there and I said Ohh, have a look too loud. 

Uh-huh. 

Too bright and then? 

Do you know what? 

They had. 

What? 

Juicy couture. They have the juicy, the Lua tracksuit. So I've been seeing these on eBay, so kind of, you know, not second hand, but people had bought them back in the day and kept them in pristine, you know, brand. 

Ohh yes yes. Uh-huh. See, it's it's all back. Yeah, yeah. 

New with tags so. 

Uh-huh. And they would have charging quite a quite a a fair amount for them. 

They were the vintage. 

I would suggest as well. 

And I think juicy may have done a run itself came back as a bit of a brand, but this is the first time I have seen them IRL brand new on the shelf. There was a whole section of juicy I could not. 

Uh-huh. Really. On the shelf. 

On the. Rack. 

It's a juicy couture. Fiction. 

I could not believe it. 

Really. Were you excited? How much was it? Was it expensive? Cause. Look, I'm gonna say that shop is expensive. They are expensive tracksuits, I mean. 

How is? That it was. That shop is extensive. They're very well, actually. I don't think they're that much more expensive than they were back in the day. Cause I feel like they. 

Because. 

Were a couple of 100 bucks. 

Well, they still have the diamond Tees and the across the bottom. 

They do juicy across the aisles. 

What's it like to sit on a demonte? 

Juicy. 

Well, it depends how how big they are. 

Right. You don't want too big a diamond Y. Yeah. Yeah, they're cold. You'll get piles. 

I think if they're big ones, be uncomfortable. It's yeah, early 2. Thousands was when you did have things on the ****, if you tracksuits sometimes they were like iron on. Letters as well anyway. 

Yeah, you don't want anything that's gonna fall off if it gets too hot around the bottom area. 

But some of it so. There was like faux fur. Juicy. That was more expensive. I think that's was getting up. 200 There's a romper. There's a juicy good cheer. Damonte valua. Rompa. 

A romper is that just like an adult baby suit. 

A onesie. Yeah, but it's short short with long sleeves and a. 

And. Hood that should never. 

There, there it is. Have a look at that. Have a look at that. That would be if you're problematic if you have to. 

That shouldn't be allowed outside. 

Ah. 

Go to the toilet. 

I thought it was like, yeah, a girl pulls that off better than what a guy could, that's for sure. Nice romper mate. 

Yes, yes, there. There's obviously the tracksuit, the top and the bottom. Yeah, I think the tops are around 120 and the bottoms are about the same. So probably a little bit more expensive. 

So how much does that make a Romper 240? 

240 yeah. 

Look at the 128 and some of the buttons together. 

Ohh the top and the no. The Romper is short. No, it's joined up. The Romper is only $100. 

Ohh it's bargain. 

There was lots of De Montes. A **** tube. I'm glad the **** tubes come back. Oh, they're calling it a bandeau now, but it's. 

Was that at JD Sports or are you just now moving on to the juicy couture lines? 

Yes. No, that's no, that's JD Sports band view. 60 bucks. There's a handbag as well. Like a value handbag that said juicy. 

Really. Yeah. Really. 

Huh. 

But I couldn't believe it. 

Cause that's like early early 2. Thousands. Paris was the juicy ambassador. 

That's that's closer. That's getting closer to 30 years ago, isn't it? 

Think back to to Paris holding the little. What did she have? What are those dogs to ark? Tinkerbell. Tinkerbell holding, Tinkerbell. And she'd have the juicy. Britney was often seen running around with a frappuccino from Starbucks in her juicy tracksuits. Lindsey. 

Chihuahua, a Chihuahua in the juicy Katsuya bag. Yes. Yeah. 

Nicole Richie. Jlo. But. 

Uh-huh. 

Jlo wore hoops with hers and some heels. 

Yeah. I think I think you are ahead of the curve with this with your ALDI mania tracksuit. I'm a big fan of you in the ALDI mania tracksuit. I think that is for me, juicy couture, yeah. 

She bronzed it up. Madonna. That's my pyjamas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, die monties. 

No, don't need it. 

No, just the ALDI corporate colours. 

How the mania. Yeah, yeah. 

Logo. I think it's great. But yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm intrigued as to to how it's come back as a renaissance, and it's just as expensive. And I did buy well, it would go well with what's the hats that I inherited. 

A renaissance. Ohh, the von Dutch. 

Hats Dutch. Legit von Dutch from my brother in law, yeah. 

Phone. 

Like back from the era. 

Yeah. 

I don't think he wanted to give them away. I think my sister made him give them to me. Yes, and I I I said. Are you sure? And he said yes, but. 

Really. Yeah. 

I think it was under duress. 

Yeah, he gave me one and it doesn't fit cause. My head's too big. 

I took that one. As well, so I have a whole range, so they'll go well. Maybe I should get a juicy couture to. Go with my von Dutch. 

Yeah, yeah. See, a lot of people got big butts. I've got a big head. You could print juicy couture across my, my fall. 

Go ahead in diamantes. 

Ohh classy. Before we go any further. 

Hmm. 

Are you OK over there? 

No. 

I'm catching. You've got your finger in a mug. What are you doing? 

Well, because we're recording during the day, I'm having a hot chocolate instead of a beer because I don't know, it just felt the right thing to do. Yeah, but I thought I'll. 

Yeah. 

Make my. Hot chocolate out of protein. I don't think protein works in hot chocolate cause it's formed as sludge. I've got a slurry at. 

Uh-huh. 

The bottom of my cup, so I was just can you? 

Stop flicking it all over the studio. 

Was just staring it. I was just. There. It's OK. I'll put it over. 

Yes, you've got. Look you've got. 

There. 

For my protein intake, gotta have. I've gotta eat a slurry now. 

You've got slurry stains all over your juicy couture. Now it's the hatches, matches and dispatches. Clue. Sorry, everyone. It's a. It's a celebrity. That will be either born or dying or getting married or something to that effect that we talked about at the end of the show this week, we have a dispatch and we're gonna play a little clue now. You guess who it is? We'll tell you who it is later. 

Yes. 

Benjamin, I am not trying to seduce you. 

Oh, that's. So easy. That's so easy. One more time. 

Benjamin, I am not trying to seduce you. 

I think a lot of our boomer listeners would get that. 

One did that feature in a song as a grab in a song. 

Yeah, it's been sampled. It's been sampled in quite a few songs. Would you like one more time? 

Benjamin, I am not trying to. 

Seduce you. Hey, you're just too funky for me. 

Yeah. Yeah, it'll be a bit of George Michael. That's right. We'll find out who. 

Hmm. 

It is later. 

My. 

Over to the news this week, 5th to the 11th of June 2005 of no particular day, this was kind of a week long thing was going on here in Australia, OK. 

Yeah, I feel like I should have put some spy music in for this. I'll do it later. I'll do it later. I'll put it like here. 

Or like. Yeah, there is bias. Australia became the focal point of a significant international incident involving allegations of Chinese espionage. We had two Chinese defectors, Chen Yonglin and Hao Feng. Juan what? Why? 

What? Yes. 

First, sorry, that went really Abbott and Costello, I couldn't help but carry on, no. 

Ohh my goodness, I thought you were teasing my pronunciation. I just drank a big slurry and I'm confused. 

What's you're asking me a question? 

They brought to. Light claims of an extensive Chinese spy network operating. Right here in Australia. 

According to my knowledge, there are about 1000 agents and informers in in Australia. 

You also made allegations of kidnapping. People being kidnapped and being taken back to China, is that correct? 

I don't want to repeat what I've said. 

You're you're maintaining that that allegation is true. 

I just don't want to talk. Talk about it anymore. Right at this. 

Stage. So you have told no lies to avoid going back to China. 

All my words can be verified in some way. 

You can tell that. That's by the clock of it, yeah. 

Yes, gave it. 

It's chin that was Chen talking to Liz. 

Away. 

Hayes Chen has very bad mouth noise. Can I just say sorry to everyone listening. He should have had a he should have had a green. 

Yeah, they might team up very closely. Apple before he spoke. Yeah, he's a bit clicky. So Chen was a former political affairs counsellor at the Chinese Consulate in Sydney. He defected the months prior. In May 2005, and he he publicly disclosed his defection during a rally that was commemorating the Tiananmen Square protests on the 4th of June in 2005. And then he claimed that China had deployed over 1000 agents in Australia to monitor and intimidate dissidents. Like the ones that we're going to commemorate, Tiananmen Square, and also the ones that are protesting Fallon Gong, the you know the Fallon Gong protesters, you see it all the time. They're always in the Chinese embassy in Canberra. The falungong protesters always camping outside there. 

Don't want to sit outside the embassy? Yes. 

They I I just. 

They work hard. I. 

Know you guys are. 

Just you obviously believe in your cause and and also pro democracy activists. They're after pro democracy activists as well. So they reckoned that they had all these spies here that were monitoring them and try. Trying to, you know, harass them if they got too far out of line or spoke too ill of China, right. He also alleged that agents had kidnapped a student in Sydney to coerce his father, which was who was a former Chinese official, into coming back to China. And that was corroborated, corroborated. Sorry. And now it's time for the news with Elmer Fudd. Hello. That was collaborated. That was corroborated by by Hal Fang Jun. Or is that? Is that how you pronounced Feng Jun? 

Yes. 

No. How did you say it at? 1st. 

I can't remember because you interrupted me. I. Was I was trying. Say it with with confidence, and then you interrupted and so I don't know how the other person was an officer from China's 610 Office 600 and 10610, which is a. 

OK, well this is completely gone off the line. Yes, well, how? Yes. 

Secret agency tasked with suppressing. 

Well, that was his job. His job was to harass and intimidate the Falun Gong. So he's like, yes, this guy's telling the truth. And I'd like to defect you, please. Yes. 

Falun Gong, the security agents detectives. Supported, yes. Supported the claims stating that yeah, around 1000 Chinese spies from Australia. That's not an exaggeration. Around 1000 and he provided documents to Australian authorities which he claimed detailed China's surveillance activities abroad. 

So. 

China, China, China enters the. 

OK. Enters the chess. 

Yeah, they're like, that's book. That didn't happen. You're out of your mind. They said that Chen and Howard, just disgruntled individuals seeking personal gain against China. And they accused Howell of corruption, downplayed his former role within the security apparatus. No, he was just like, he was a janitor. Yeah. He was the tea lady. 

I call books. Isn't the mailman? 

It's hardly a security guard. He used to deliver tea. That's what he used to do. And they asserted that the claims were completely fabric. 

Hmm. 

Created and aimed at undermining China's international reputation. 

Hmm, interesting. 

It's all a bit all a. Bit weird and scary, but the Australia so the Australian Government, Australia, Australia, Australia enters the chat. 

We had to. Weigh in, cautious in our response as you would be. Don't wanna be. Accusing anyone of. Anything, especially not spying. Spying is a. 

Yes, you don't wanna **** *** one of our biggest international racers? No. 

Big spying is a big accusation. It's huge. They we did grant protection visas though to Shannon Howe and it prompted discussions. Within Australia regarding foreign interference. And the need to safeguard our national sovereignty. 

Yes. So they had a couple of chats, there was a chat outside this chat. There's probably a separate chat happening with China just to make sure everything's out of China and then internationally, the defection of these guys had broader implications because it highlighted a lot of concerns around the world about China's global surveillance activities. All of a sudden, it's like, oh, my God, they're raising doubts here. You've got 1000 people over there. 

Fee. See group chats. 

Monitoring other people. That's. Fair bit. That's a lot of stuff going on that people maybe don't know about and so that that made that that certainly put a spotlight on China at the time and probably continues that spotlight as well with their whole human rights record and the and the influence operations that they do conduct. Let's see. 

Umm, moving over to the 8th of June 2005 now. Ohh it's been a while. We haven't had any white powder Jew. Jew for some white powder. We had an incident at Parliament House as well as the US, UK, Japan and South Korean embassies. Suspicious packages containing white powder between the 5th and 12th of June I've. 

Little while between between drinks. 

Uh-huh. 

Remember this? 

Kind of merged all my white powder insolence into. Because it had been happening, it started around September 11, didn't it? Just after September 11, we? 

But but because because these were embassies in Canberra, I remember this really. 

Start getting them. 

Clearly they shut down that whole Parliamentary triangle area. 

Yes, that's right. 

Yeah. So between the 5th and the 12th of this month, the the incidents happened and it was part of broader hoaxes that have been occurring since 2001. Those anthrax scares in the states, and they discovered suspicious powders in mail packages that led to a big bioterrorism emergency response. 

Yes, most very well, yes. 

Mainly in Canberra Parliament House, June 9, 2005 a package containing white powder is discovered in the loading dock of Parliament House in Canberra. The emergency services respond to that. They closed the dock, they initiate decontamination process. Pages and that causes delays in mail, but only in the building. The mail room is a bit ****** ***. 

Actually, now it wasn't a good time to be the person that did work in the mail room those few years because, yeah, you, you were the first one to. Yeah. You were the first one to touch it. 

So they're annoying. 9. No, it was scary. Yeah, genuinely, yeah. So the powder was harmless, they determined it was harmless. But around the same time, several embassies in Canberra also received suspicious packages containing white powder, notably, the Indonesian embassy was targeted, which prompted a really strong response and and John Howard had apologised publicly to Indonesia. After this describing the incident as a reckless act of indifference. Huh. Wife. 

The investigations are proceeding. We have not only federal police officials, but the ACT police and also people analysing the content to see if there is any link and it's hard to imagine what the motivation would be. It serves no positive purpose. It is not in anybody's interest and we can then outright and utterly the actions that we've seen with those parcels. Delivered to the Indonesian embassy. 

Hold on. 

That was not the Prime Minister. That was Bruce Wilson. That was Bruce Billson, the the parliamentary secretary for Foreign Affairs of Australia at the time. Do you hear the motor rollers going off? 

No, don't say that. Didn't that didn't sound like him. 

In the background there. 

Hmm. Yes. Recognise that buzz. 

Yeah, obviously. What else are you gonna do? Other embassies included USA, Japan, South Korea and the UK who also receive similar packages. They're all treated seriously. As all the protocols enacted and like I said, they locked down the town for a little while, especially around their area and and all of the substances were found to be non toxic and harmless. I'm still tipping. They might have found trace elements of. Seamen, I mean, there's always trace elements of signal. I mean, I mean, having said that, if you if you took a a thing of beer nuts off a bar, you know, they have the beer nuts off the bar and you'd find trace elements of all sorts of stuff in. 

Always, always and baby powder. It was baby powder. Wasn't it most of the time? Ohh. Nice night. Oh, oh God no. 

That as well too, yeah. 

It was just it. Was more annoying than anything because I think most of the time you go. I know this is going to be. I know this is just baby powder. 

It's a pain in the ****. 

No thanks. 

We gotta take. 

This. Seriously. We're gonna look. It's like when it happened to the radio station. Well, people at the radio station were freaking out. 

But this vast. But there is always that thing in the back of your mind, like what is and that that's the that's the. That's the scary part about it. Yeah. 

Yeah. And so you've gotta be careful. Cause it's. Yeah, human human life involved. I was more concerned when it happened to us because I was wearing really daggy undies, and they were setting up the pool out the front where it had like it had, like, the spray. It was like a a blow up pool and had a shower. And you were they were setting that up. Ready because I could see it out the window. And I was. 

Ohh that's right. 

Yes. The big sprinkler shower. 

Like. 

Yes. 

Yeah, this is what they talk about when I hope you've got clean undies on in case you get hit by a bus. This is why I hope you've got clean undies on in case. 

Yes. 

You have to go through the anthrax shower. 

Yes, Mel's actually referring to a white powder incident that occurred at the radio station in Canberra that we were working at at the time. I was fortunately out driving the promotional vehicle. So I just I I just give away bread. I didn't come back. 

Yes. Giving away bread than bread, that's actually more dangerous than the powder. I think driving that thing around and people following us, the bridge and. 

Probably yes, yes, absolutely. I was. I was constantly terrorised in that. Suddenly somebody opens an envelope. It's like try driving the black Thunder. 

Yes, you were. Yeah, exactly. We we were shut. Yeah, we were shut in and we couldn't go anywhere. 

What? 

Yeah, and it was taking ages. And the guy came in in a big suit, remember the big inflatable? Yeah, but because he had the inflatable suit, he couldn't pick up the envelope. He because he had was. 

Big hazmat suits. So somebody else had to hand it to him. 

Like. He was slippery. Fingers butter fingers couldn't pick up the envelope, and then one of the staff members with no gloves had to pick it up and hand it to the guy in the suit. So they're getting the bath ready. 

Good Lord. 

And I just thought, and it wasn't that I was wearing dirty undies, let me just specify. I was just wearing, you know, like when you get to the end of your wash cycle and you've got the beige granny undies. 

The crappy ones might have a hole in it. Yeah, it's a bit frayed. 

That have a hole in the ****. I was just like. 

Yeah, quite faded. 

Just my luck because the news were there, too. The news were there, ready to film. 

And I mean too, if you if you go. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I hear you. If you go through the shower in that you're basically wearing glad wrap on the way out. You see straight through it. It's transparent. 

Was. Absolutely. I'm gonna be on win news. Everyone's gonna see my bits and my granny undies. Fantastic. What a day. What a. 

What a thrill I would have come back if I had known you were gonna do that. That would have been awesome. 

Day. 

What was not awesome, though, is this terrible story that happens on the 10th of June, which is the start of the the giant Patel giant giant giant giant giants, not giant. I don't know, tomato, tomato. The guy was a *******, terrible person, so a Queensland government inquiry states that medical doctor. 

Jim. 

Chance. 

Giant Patel should be charged with murder, fraud, negligence and medical malpractice due to the death of get this 87 of his patients. So Patel is an Indian born American surgeon and he became the centre of a major medical malpractice scandal. During this time the early 2000s, he was employed at Bundaberg based Hospital in Queensland from 2003 and he was appointed director of surgery there. Despite previous disciplinary actions in the United States for medical negligence over 2 years he performs surgery on around 1000 patients. 1000 patients in that small hospital with reports linking in to at least 13 patient deaths and numerous in. 

Hmm. 

Series due to substandard care and this is Tony Hoffman, one of the nurses that reported him on Australian story. 

The first patient I recall with that we had in the ICU that belonged to Doctor Patel was a patient, had actually been refused surgery in Brisbane for cancer of the oesophagus. Doctor Patel said that he would do the surgery in Bundaberg and he actually came back to ICU extremely. Bill and I think he spent five days in the unit before he he actually died. Another doctor and myself went up and spoke to Doctor Keating, the medical director, about how wise it was to be doing this sort of surgery. In a small hospital like Bundaberg. We were told that we had to continue to do these operations. It was almost like he was really looking for people to operate on. He would have been probably in the ICU by 6:30 in the morning. He was still there, sometimes eight o'clock, 9:00 at night, even when he wasn't on call. 

Yeah. 

As you said, that's Tony Hoffman, who raised initial concerns about his practises, but she was largely ignored until around 2005, until a member of Parliament, Rob. Messenger brought the issue into the QLD parliament, which then led to multiple inquiries including the Davies inquiry, which criticised systemic failures within Queensland Health and recommended criminal charges be laid against Patel. 

Yeah, but he bailed. He he skipped the country, so he left in April. So just just before a couple of months before. But. And he and he hung out. I think he was in the United States, but he got extradited from there in 2008 in 2010. 

Hmm. 

My budget. Yeah. 

This starts to come full circle, and he's convicted on three counts of manslaughter and one of grievous bodily harm. He gets a seven year prison sentence. However, in 2012, the High Court of Australia overturned the convictions due to prejudicial evidence, which leads to a retrial. So this this is such an ongoing drama, it went for. 

Hmm. 

Years in 2013, he pleads guilty to fraud charges related to his medical registration and employment, which results in a two year suspended sentence and then in 2015 he's finally permanently banned from practising medicine in Australia. But I. Would say like. 7 deaths on his watch, their healthcare system in Queensland was rocked by that and they they went for significant reforms, including stricter oversight of all their practitioners and and enhancing the protections for whistleblowers like Tony Hoffman. Over to sport. Hmm. Paris in the summer? Yes, the summer in Gay Perry in 2005 on the clay courts. Rafael Nadal as a 19 year old Spaniard bursts onto the Grand Slam stage like a storm rolling in off the mighty Mediterranean. 

Yes. Oh, I can see it painted a beautiful picture. 

Yeah. And I don't know. I'm not well. I'm in France. I'm feeling arty. It was his first appearance at the French Open, but he played like a veteran fly through the entire drawer. Top spins, swagger. Like somebody knew that history was calling. That's what it was like for him in the finally took on Mariano Puerta, the Argentinian. 

You're such an artist. 

Who was left handed, just like Nadal, who'd had a pretty spirited run as well. But Nadal ends up winning the day. Puerta grabbed the first set, but Dal storms back to win 67636175. 

Yes. Sister. 

Sounds so much sexier when I say it in French, yeah. 

Does doesn't. Makes tennis much more interesting. 

Yeah, he lifted the coup, the mosquito hair above his head. That's the trophy. Right. Cook. Meaning cup. I don't know. I don't know. 

2nd Man in History to win that on his debut. So it was a big deal. 

Yes. 

Yeah. On the women's side, the Belgian, Justine Henin hardine. 

Yeah. Hi, Dan. 

Harden. Ohh. You know. Yes, that's familiar, isn't it? Helen harden? 

Yeah. 

Like that's that's small country town in NSW with the really long. Ohh that's hard and sorry yeah got confused. 

Harm she. 

Yeah. That was the week before, so that was last week. But you know, whenever we when we're doing tennis, we might as well cover the whole gamut. So she won against Mary. 

Ohh OK, so keep going. Hmm. But I think Nadal was the big story because you know, debut. 

Well, yes. And now, if Mary Pierce had a won, it would have been a big story because she was French as well. So if she'd won the French Open in France, that would have been huge. But that wasn't to be. So, but Nadal was the big one because this was the beginning of what the world was about to see and experience that the magic of Rafa Nadal. Over to the charts over to. 

Music. Yeah, we'll start with the AU charts in Australia. Don't funk with my heart. 

Sorry. 

In Australia, don't funk with my heart number. 

One my bad, premature or something. 

The funk with my heart. I wonder if I take you home. 

Hmm. 

Meh. 

Meh. The Black Eyed me pees with don't funk with my heart number one in Australia. 

I think they also made an appearance in the top five over in the US charts. 

5. 

A little bit. Not a lot, baby girl. Just a little bit. We can head to the crib in a little bit. 

Southern style get wild old fools coming down in a. 

Different colour wheel wheel wheel. 

Picked up perfect you might. 

Wanna take a flick flick? 

Ain't no hall effect. 

What? 

Who's gonna take your place? 

Exactly the same as last. 

Week it is. Yes, Sir. 

Yeah. Yeah. Week 1313 weeks to go of Mariah Carey's reign. Top of the. 

Hmm 2 of 13 don't fall with my heart just a little bit #4. Ohh #3. Holler back on #2 and Mariah, of course. 

Sharks. Top of the sharks? Yeah, no, that's actually appropriate. Good, great. 

Number one. 

Ohh what? It's good that they were all belongs in the middle of the shots. 

Ohh, this gives you a little breathing space. OK, let's go to the UK. #1 back to left by the crazy frog. 

No. You know what else is in? Uh. 

Da. 

That that is just utter. 

Like that that I just. 

That's like, that's the. Worst novelty song that ever novelty. 

Like what? 

This is it's nothing. It's just nothing. There's nothing musical about it. There's nothing artistic about it. It's got nothing. It's nothing. And the other thing too, that I was quite offended by with the crazy frog is you could see his penis. Yes. 

It's a dust, yeah. 

Hmm. 

Ah. You could that was he. That was when he got more animated, yes. 

Well. For want of a better phrase, it was. 

Just flapping around so while he rides the motor that's dangerous having you shlong out on a motorbike. He fell off. That happened detachable. 

Yes, I wouldn't like to do that. Yes, if you wouldn't have a foreskin anymore, I could tell you that. 

Yes. 

So that was. Was the. The the crazy frog with his rendition of Axel F So obviously a remix of the 1984 theme from Beverly Hills Cop reimage. Agents with beats and sound effects and. 

Yeah, with the crazy frog. 

The crazy frog. 

From the from the phone, the ringtone. 

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. 

You're crazy and get the crazy frog as a ringtone on your mobile now for just £3, you can choose up to 5 ringtones away from just 60 feet per tone. Check for 13 for the mono plug, 14 for the Poly, 4 Frog, 15 for the crazy real sounds to 88888. 

Wow. 

So I I was wrong earlier I said. Can you believe crazy frog ringtones? Been around for 20 years. It's Axel left the Crazy frog song that's been around for 20 years. The ringtones. Yeah. So this was an example of the ringtone first, followed by the single. Usually they're. They're making ringtones out of songs. Yeah. Crazy Frog started as a ringtone. And. 

The ringtones for evidence. 

Probably the most infamous and annoying one at the 2000's. The sound was originally created late 90s Ninety 7 and was called the Annoying thing and it was created by us. The Swedish actor and sound engineer Daniel. 

Hmm. 

How apt. 

Mel Mehendale and he made a silly vocal impression of a 2 stroke moped engine. That's his impression of a moped engine. 

And he just pitched it up a little bit. And yes, there's the crazy frog. 

Then. Well, then, in 2003, Eric Winquist, who's a 3D animator, added the blue frog character to the sounds and uploaded it on this brand new, exciting Internet thing. 

Yeah. Uh. 

That we've got. And then in 2004, the ringtone became a thing. So they got the crazy frog. They got the noise, the annoying thing noise, and they're like, great. Great, perfect ringtone. It's gonna annoy the out of everyone in the office when someone rings. Well, let's do this. It's fabulous, jambar. Well, I think it was called jamster here in Australia, but it was Jamba over in the UK. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

Let's sell. It uh-huh. Ohh, GM star, yeah. You went jamber it up your ****, that ringtone I tell you. 

So they turned it into a polyphonic ringtone and just promoted this out of it. Basically through those ads. 

They really did. I am proud to say. 

Hmm. 

That I was never friends with. Anybody who had a crazy frog ringtone and I do think that your ringtone said a lot about the type of person you. 

Were, yeah. 

Now, admittedly, when I was younger, I made the mistake of wearing one of those Looney Tunes granny maize vests to something I don't know, but I that's the type of person I think if you are, if you're, if you're one of those. 

Did you have the tie as well? 

Tweets that used to wear that Looney Tunes Granny may stuff everywhere. I think you would have a crazy frog ringtone and I reckon you'd be a hoot at parties. 

Crazy for green, sorry. I'm trying to remember if I knew anyone. I I didn't. Nobody in my immediate work vicinity or Friendship group had it. But I do remember hearing it at, say, cafes and coffee shops. I definitely heard it in the. Wild. 

I reckon you you're the sort of person that probably took too much ecstasy in your formative years and your brain is slightly malfunctioned and malformed now, and you thought that's the cause. I don't. 

Yeah, it's very popular. 

Hmm. You thought that's that's good. 

Knew anybody who heard that and went. That's good idea. That is awesome. That's changed my life. Hmm. No, it's trash. 

Wow. Love that. 

I don't know. And then so then they did the the song and he was already 3D animated into the blue frog. But I think they added I think they added the. A little bit later, I don't think that was in the the original days. 

The penis. Ohh really? They thought. Ohh. You know what this crazy frogs mixing that would make him even more obnoxious. He's a little. 

But there was in the video clip. It's funny. It's got a funny shape. 

Yeah, it has. 

I was looking at that yesterday. 

Thing. 

So how closely were you looking at that? 

I don't know. It was just there. It was just there and then he was on the because he was doing all kinds of things on in the video was riding a motorbike. What else is he doing in the video clip? He was. He was in the. 

What's there? 

I do think somebody I do recall. I can't remember. I didn't. Watch it, I honestly, I honestly, my tolerance for the crazy frog. 

City he was running around in this little. His little man was flapping around. It's just I. 

Don't know my tolerance for the crazy frog is measured in milliseconds, so I I I I can't get through that. But I do note that they did pixelate the penis later on, so somebody must have complained somebody must have written a letter. 

Someone complains, probably. 

Yeah, I I that I think that the people that are responsible for that should be sentenced to death. I think we're, you know, we talk, we often talk about bringing back the death penalty, and if you're gonna bring it back, I think 100% just kill them and make an example of them. Do the do it somewhere public, stream it on the Internet. Maybe do it. Like, I don't know, half time at the Super Bowl, something like that. 

You think that's that's a perfect example. Turn it into a ring tone. 

Yeah, another band that should be sentenced to death as far as I'm concerned. If no, I'm kidding. Maybe is Coldplay. 

Ohh wow wow. Can I just say I don't. I don't like I'm, I'm Coldplay. And different. Yeah, I don't particularly like Coldplay, but I don't hate. 

Yeah. 

Them, they're just there. They're just there. At the risk of sounding, it's just noise for me. But yeah, but a lot of people love Coldplay, and now the proof is in the pudding, cause they toured recently. They toured recently, sold out around the world. People love. 

I've had a lot. 

Of youths. 

We played on the radio, was lost. 

And people in the early 2000s loved Coldplay. They really did, yes. And they released the album X&Y on the 6th of June. That was their third studio album, which came out after obviously parachutes in 2000 and A rush of blood to the head, which is in 2002. So this is 2005. Been a couple of years between drinks and we've got X&Y that's come out now which they said marked a shift in the band sound, which I I didn't hear it. 

I didn't listen to it, so I'm not. 

I didn't hear incorporating more electronic and experimental elements while maintaining their emotional and melodic depths. According to the pundits, it blends rock with ambient and electronic textures, creates a more expansive sound compared to the band's early works. I don't know, have a listen to speed of sound and you decide. 

Sure, can't comment. 

Just sounds like Coldplay to me. 

Ohh, I reckon if I was in space that feels like something. Listen to when you're driving around in space in your ship and the star was going. Maybe Katy Perry listened to that when she was up. 

Spicy. I'm probably I'm being a bit bit too. Fuel. I mean, I don't. I can't. 

In space. 

Maybe, maybe shame they didn't stay up there. I I do. Well, maybe I need to walk back. The negativity towards Coldplay. I just. I'm just again. Yeah. Indifference. A good place to be. I don't have the energy to. Really. 

There's no back to indifferent big problem. 

Apply any more than indifference to them and the sound is indifferent. When I hear like the just the no, that's not it. That's when I hear that I want to go and ohh. I can't say what I want to do. 

Yeah. 

You know, I'm just like, yeah, it's like. 

Find them a bit. Because that that had that song fix you that was whingy, but I it was wingy because it's supposed to be about Gwyneth's dad who passed away. So it had meaning. But I I didn't know that at the time. But I just remember thinking, this sounds a bit. 

Oh, is it? Oh, that's terrible. Yeah. 

That's right. 

Whiny. Well, Chris Martin was going through. He was having a moment. I think when he when he wrote. 

Have they consciously uncoupled yet? 

Of ovary. I mean, I don't know. I think it was more about the pressure that the band were under to follow up their success to like, well, come on, you know, this is album 3, Coldplay. We're we're investing a lot in you now. And so I think just the weight of the world was on his shoulders. But the fans loved it. 8 million copies worldwide. You can't argue with that success. Doesn't matter what I say about them. 

No, that's still a few years away. Oh oh, would have been begging. Yeah. Gotta move the units. No. 

People love them. They, they said it's it's got a washy kind of sound to it like like I dropped my stereo in the. 

Pool or your boom box is on the Fritz maybe. 

Or something you know? My boom box is consistently on the fridge. Let's go to the box office Star Wars #1 in Australia at the moment thought it would be #1 everywhere, but there's another movie that is number one in the box office in the USA, Little DreamWorks animated from called Madagascar. 

This. 

Summer. 

This place is crack a lacking. 

DreamWorks Animation presents. 

You're come. 

Ohh, I love the people. Lady, what is wrong with you? 

Ben Stiller, Chris Rock, David Schwimmer, Jada Pinkett Smith. 

It's the man. 

You've been ratted out, boys. Madagascar. 

Cute and cuddly, boys cute and cuddly. 

So a franchise was born. They had to put in happy meals and merchandise and sequels and Penguins and all of that sort of stuff. I think we'd spoken about it earlier. I think it had been released earlier. Actually in May but and it received mixed reviews. But this is where it went to #1. 

At the US box office, yes. So the animals from Central Park Zoo find themselves stranded on the island of Madagascar. Must adjust to living in the wild. Fish out of water. Typical fish. Out of water moving. 

Yes, or animals out of the zoo. 

We loved it. Lots of famous people doing the voices. Interestingly, Chris Rock and Jada Pinkett Smith. 

Yes. And remember they appeared at The Knick Awards earlier on to promote it as well, so they were still on speaking to him. Umm yes, he he was allowed to have her name in his mouth at that stage. 

Starting. Japan. Yes, obviously friends at that stage. He was, yeah. 

So. 

Was that when and then that had Sacha Baron Cohen? What was he in? There he was. 

Yeah, he was a lemur. 

A funny he was. Yes, he was. 

King Julian. The lemur. Did I like to move? 

Good. I think he was my favourite. 

It move. It. Yeah, that was him, yeah. 

I think he was my favourite character in. Are we allowed to talk about him anymore? Is he still? I don't know. Did we turn on him? I think we turned on him. 

I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know if I wanna know. Did people turn on Sacha Baron Cohen? Oh, was that cause of the rebel? 

Didn't we? Did we? 

Wilson thing? Ohh yeah. 

The Rebel Wilson thing, and then he separated from our our, our, our Isla yeah. Yeah. I don't think we can talk. OK. We don't like him. We don't like the the lemur. I don't. I don't know. 

From our Isla Fisher and she's wonderful. So yeah. How dare you? I don't know. You know who I do like? George Lucas. George Lucas. I mean, you know, he, he he was the soundtrack to my child. 

Hey. Oh, good, sure. 

Would George Lucas? Well not George Lucas himself? 

And he looks like my mum's friend's husband. 

He does look a lot like him, actually, and. And so I've got a friend who was a mad Star Wars fan. And when your mum's friend husband was at our wedding, my friend flipped out because he he himself. He's like, I thought George Lucas was coming to your wedding. You didn't tell me. 

He tried to take a photo with. 

Him. 

Supposed to say this stuff. 

You knew George Lucas. 

A photo with him I never even realised that. But then in in hindsight he he's right. He does look a bit like. 

Well. Yeah. Well, well, George Lucas, this time 20 years ago, was was honoured at the 33rd. 

The real 1. 

AFI Life Achievement Awards by the American Film Institute, otherwise known as the AFI, at a ceremony held at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood and this this accolade recognised his contributions to cinema, particularly in his creation of Star Wars and Indiana Jones, as well as his advancements that he'd made with all the visual effects through companies. Like industrial light and Magic and Skywalker sound. So Steven Spielberg, who is a lifelong friend collaborator, but also I would suggest, rival presents the award to Lucas and he Lords Lucas as a visionary storyteller. And he's had this huge transformative impact on the film industry. He and George goes up and collects his. 

Award. I was a little worried in the beginning when Jean said they were gonna do this. And Steven said, you know, you you got it. I said, well, who in the world would come? I I halfway expected to have a room full of Stormtroopers and Princess Leia Z. I'd like to. Thank you. Know Mark and Kerry and Harrison, John Williams who you know without whom I don't think the movies would actually even work. You know he's. Right up there with Buddy Holly. And. You know The Drifters. 

I think he's I think he's so right in paying homage to John Williams, the composer, because the soundtrack for both of the Indiana Jones franchise and Star Wars is just iconic. And I I I agree. I don't know that those films would work without that amazing orchestral score driving it along. So credit where it's due. Of course you heard him. Name drop. Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill, the trio from the Star Wars trilogy. He also got tributes from Robert Duvall, who starred in his debut feature film THX 113. Gate and Richard Dreyfuss, who was in American graffiti, Francis Ford Coppola and James Cameron, paid tribute to him, as well as a whole bunch of directors and peers. And obviously Steven Spielberg, who gave him the award. And it was. It was kind of nice. It was pretty light hearted. They roasted him a little bit, but mostly they were very kind to him. The shack man was there. 

Ohh. 

Good. William Shatner. He performed a rendition of my way, accompanied by Dancing Stormtroopers, which is Captain Kirk with dancing Stormtroopers. Nerds would have just spontaneously come. 

Housing from. 

Yes. 

That just breaks so many rules, so many rules. But yeah, he was pretty humble in his acceptance speech. He he said that he deferred the award previously because he didn't think he'd completed his cinematic journey, so they'd offered it to him before and he was like, I'm not ready for that. I haven't done what I needed to do. He just said I'm too young and he's not ready, but upon turning. 

Oh. 

Alrighty. 

60 and completing the Star Wars prequels, he just thought it was the right time to accept the honour and I I think too. You know, there's a new number one at the box office. Madagascar has gone to #1 and revenge of the sissies. Like I better show up to this awards thing and see if I can't kick that along a little bit more. Yes, but there was some other TV milestones happening this time 20 years ago. 

Range. 

Yes, 5th of June, CNN turns 25. It's 25th anniversary. It's celebrates with a special programme called CNN presents 25 defining moments. Highlighting the significant news stories that the network had covered since its inception on the 1st of June 1980, anchored by prominent journalists including Paula Zahn, Anderson Cooper, Larry King and Aaron Brown, and revisited pivotal events that had shaped global history and obviously CNN's role in reporting on them. 

Yeah, like the the things like the Challenger space shuttle disaster. Like they were on on the scene for the 1986 explosion. I think the the footage that we would have seen. 

Hmm. 

As kids, remember that when challenger blew up, that was all courtesy of CNN. The fall of the Berlin Wall. 

Oh, I remember that. Yeah, yeah. 

Big historical event at the end of the Cold Warrior the Gulf War in 1991. That was where that was so trailblazing as far as live coverage and embedded journalism went because they were right there on the battlefield. The OJ Simpson OJ Simpson trial was another really huge one. 

Hmm. 

Oh, did they have the bit where he was driving? In the car, remember that. 

They had that, but they also were reported on the courtroom. The trial was such a media circus as well, remember, and they were very much front row. 

Switch. That was crazy. 

Yeah, yeah. 

And for that, the bombing of Oklahoma City Timothy McVeigh, that domestic terrorism in 1995, Princess Diana's death. Ohh yes. 

Of course. Yep, September 11. Obviously the real time updates throughout. 

That was the big one. Yeah. So they had lots of stuff. They had lots of stuff and they also paid homage to Ted Turner, who was the founder of CNN, who launched the network with this vision of 24 hour news coverage. So they were definitely the first of their kind when it came to that very revolutionary. And his dedication to that real time journalism which made, I think, a huge. 

Those events. 

Difference and change to the way media operated and and it's it's sort of. I think set the course for where we are now, even with like real time updates, citizen journalism always on news and all of that sort of stuff. But what I have as a treat which is great is the the grab of the first is the first broadcast from June 1, 1980, anchored by husband and wife. 

That always on news cycle, yeah. 

Team David Walker and Lois Hart. 

Roll say take 3 ready 13 Full Ready, Camera 3, one centre up. 

One breaking. Good evening. I'm David. 

Walker and I'm Louis Hart. Now here's the news. President Carter has arrived in Fort Wayne IN for a brief visit with civil rights leader Vernon Jordan. Jordan is in serious but stable condition now at Parkview Hospital. He is recuperating from the gunshot wound. Suffered early Thursday morning. Police still have no solid lead on who attempted to murder Jordan. 

In New London, CT, police say a man, apparently. Set over a family, problem went on a shooting spree aboard an Amtrak train in route from Washington to Boston. 

Yeah. Sorry, it's America. So it's not very good news day, but that was the first bulletin. Wow. By a married couple, no less. David and Lois married. I just think that's great. So they've they were. They got married in 1979. Those two, and they have worked together throughout almost their entire career. They did that, KCRA&K. 

Oh, that's great. 

Wow. 

The VR in Sacramento? They're at CNBC, where they anchored various news programmes and then of course they are famous because of made famous by the the whole first broadcast of CNN on the 1st. The dune and you'll be happy to know this is not like a Hollywood coupling or anything like that, still alive, still married. 

Ohh, that's lovely. Well done diving long. 

Yes, yes, very well known national treasures, I think over in the United States, let's move to a debut on our shores. 

Yes, the debut of a TV show. It's an Australian there. There was an American TV show of the same name. This is the Australian. It's kind of like a, let's say, a dramedy drama comedy. 

Uh-huh. 

Dramedy, yeah, so it's a drama. It wasn't a reality series, cause I think with a. 

No. Title like that no last man standing is is what it's called Australian TV series that aired from June 2005 to October. 

Yeah. 

2005. Very short run on the Seven Network and in New Zealand there was also a version in Finland called. 

Yeah. Hmm. 

Via Meisen Mahin right, meaning last man standing and finish, yes. 

Last man standing in finish. I didn't know you could speak Finnish. 

No need tonight. 

I don't think you can. That's OK. It. Yeah. They didn't come back. They were just feeling that. I think that Channel 7 had gone. OK, well, we'll do a drama series cause, you know, we still that's in our wheelhouse. We still know that sort of stuff. And then they just realised how much cheaper it is to produce reality TV, you know. 

Sterling contents. 

Yes. 

What the heck are we do on this? Let's sack all those hard working actors and just go and get some bums off the street that will work for peanuts and notoriety, and that's what they did. But they had three best friends in this, Adam, Bruno Cameron, all hard working actors playing those characters. Yes, in Melbourne. Yeah. Adam was single. He'd come. His motivation was he was single. He'd come out of a long term relationship and he was dealing with the dating world. 

Yes. 

Went to acting school trying times. 

For for the first time in a while and then camera. The other one, his motivation as an actor. The guy that played him was to be a. Sexual predator in the group. 

I don't think I like. Isn't that interesting that that he was called the sexual predator of the group? In the synopsis of the show in the early 2000s, but. We wouldn't use that. As A to these days, no. 

It's not as as descripted now. No, that's right, it's he. But because he he actually his wife had left him and that was because he was. He cheated, right? Yes. 

To change it. Yes, it was set in Melbourne too, you. 

Yeah, your group. 

Didn't say that. 

Yeah, whatever. Bruno's a nurse. A male nurse. He. He has a habit of falling for women who don't care for him. And you know, whatever. 

Yeah, they all kind of live. Together on the old ones. 

So it was all pretty really. It wasn't a great show, but the thing that I really liked about this show was I was able to find this promo and see if you can identify the voice. At the end. 

Brand new Aussie? Look at me. Do I look desperate? 

It's bloody killing me. I just want sex. 

I don't believe in sex before marriage. 

Last man standing premieres Monday, 9:40. 

On Ohh sorry it cut off at the. 

End. But there's baby Mel. Yes, I had a cold then. Obviously I sound very nasally. I remember voicing that. 

He does my standing. 

Pass the extension. 

But it had bloody chumbawumba in it and and I was like ohh God. And then I had stuck. 

Yeah. 

In my head all all day. Yeah. 

Yeah. And now and now it's stuck in your heads as. Well, you're welcome. 

Last man standing, yes. 

And for some reason that I I don't know why, but that that that that, that promo. 

Why is that promo even out there if for a show that lasts for? 

I don't know. It was on. It was on YouTube. Somebody had just uploaded a promo. It's amazing. 

Three months. That's weird. That's really weird. So there there's a there's a great voice over at the end of that. It's very nasally love that. 

Yes. Sound somebody didn't clean up after their little digital spill, I guess. Let's move over to video games, video games, but not not in the sense of a game release or a game that's come out. It's gaming news because during the week of the 5th to the 11th of June, California. 

Oh. 

Proposed ban on violent video games was still in its early stages of legislative activity. They were trying to stop kids from playing violent video games. It's always the video games, isn't it? 

Oh. 

Ohh and this is off the back of Grand Theft Auto. That was the one that. 

Trance Theft Auto. Yeah. You know, various school shootings, whatever it's it's never the fact that guns are readily, readily available. It must be the video games that made them do it. 

Everyone was blaming, wasn't it? No. Games. We had the California violent Video games Bill introduced and that was in response to these growing concerns over the impact of violent video games. And it sought to ban the sale or rental of these games to anyone under the age of 18. The criteria that they used to define violent video games with the with those depicting killing, maiming, dismembering or sexually assaulting humans in a manner that was deemed to appeal to a deviant or morbid interest and which lacked. Serious, literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. 

I'd say that well, I mean, killing made me dismembering all of those things in video games are all appeal to a deviant or morbid interest? Do they not? 

Hmm. 

And are they saying that they had to be both? The killing and the maiming and lack serious literary, artistic, political or scientific values. 

So it doesn't contribute to this, but if it's an integral part of the story, it's OK. But if it's just gone, so killing. 

Or is it either or? Was it everything? Ohh OK, it's just a dumb story then. So 50 Cent blood on the on the sand. Fine, because that's a serious artistic, literary classic. 

Yeah, because because because that ***** stole his dual encrusted skull and he needed to shoot his way through the Middle East to get it back. It's. Yeah. There's nothing. It's nothing deviant or of morbid interest there. There is total motivation and justification for all that bloodshed and killing. 

That's it. Made sense? Critical to the to the plot. Fine. Just. 

Exactly, exactly. It is very justified. That ***** took his skull. OK, and if you don't know what we're talking about, go grab yourself a copy of $0.50 blood on the sand. It is a absolute video game. 

Alright. 

Classic it is. It's lovely. So the bill was introduced. I think it had passed, but it was awaiting review by the. 

Hmm. 

Senate in June 2005 and we had the public hearings taking place. And strong push to get the legislation passed and signed and it was. Up to Arnie. 

Yes, Governor Schwarzenegger, I I I, I. 

To do that, they were appealing. Appealing to him and a lot of people, a lot of media coverage and a lot of people making statements. Didn't Hillary say something about it last year or something? 

Need to sign the bill? Hillary Clinton had a lot to say about violent video games and was blaming them and stuff. Lots of discussions there always is. This happens all. 

She did lots of people, yes. 

The time and the video game companies and that were just like, oh, here we go again. So they obviously strongly opposed the bill. They argue that video games are protected under the 1st amendment and banning or restricting their sale to minors is an overreach from the state. Like it's like there's a rating system. It's like mature or whatever you got to be a certain age to go and buy them. You should be carded or whatever. I don't know whether. Harding actually happens in video game stores because I've always been old enough to buy my own video games. But I guess you know you and you were like, there are some games out there that you definitely don't want kids playing even these days. Like I'm playing Call of Duty and I'm listening to somebody who sounds like 6 years old on there. I'm like, that's not OK like where your parents is really bad for your emotional development. Violent video games can be very bad for your emotional development. Very desensitising. 

Hmm. 

They do need to be careful of that. So they were like, yeah, they're violent. The games are violent, but they do hold literary, artistic and cultural value in that they're designed and there's characters in there. And it's there's motivation for the. Characters and they shouldn't be categorised in the same way as materials that are explicitly obscene or harmful or pornographic. Yeah, it's like a movie. It's like a movie. That's what they're saying. And so it was interesting that Schwarzenegger's involved because he's been in so many violent films. 

They're saying, yeah, it should be. Should be classified like a movie. Yeah. Yes, but he signed the bill into law in. October 2005. 

Yes, he was supportive of. 

It he loved it. 

Yeah. 

Faced immediate legal challenges, though once he signed it. And then it went to the Supreme Court. And then, in 2011, ruled in favour of the video game industry, striking down the law as unconstitutional. 

These ultraviolet video games can now, in fact, be in the hands of our children. 

Was game over for California lawmakers who tried to regulate the sale of violent video games to. Children in A72 vote. The Supreme Court threw out the states ban, saying governments cannot restrict ideas even to children, and that the ban violated the First Amendment. 

Yeah, that's 2011 that that happened. 

So they saying that you can sell violent video games to kids off the back of that? Is that what the ruling was or is it? 

No, they're saying that they should be made available, not banned, not banned. That's right. So yes and yes. You shouldn't be selling them to to miners anyway. But it's it's not something that they really wanna regulate too much. I don't think. I think it's it's kind of like. 

But with the rating system OK. 

That, I mean, this was the start of it and a big the bill was a huge point of contention and that Supreme Court case was very much a landmark decision in 2011 and it it it held a huge bearing on how video game content would be regulated into the future. But yeah, so the. The the the end result is we still have violent video games and isn't that great? Well, because you know, after a long day at. Work if you wanted to. 

You just wanna find the skull. That that ***** took. 

That's it. You come home, you try and find the ***** that took your skull and the skull. And you know, maybe you shoot a few NPC's in a video game. And that's a bit of. 

The done. 

Teabagging. Yeah, tea bag. A couple of people in Call of Duty, and then you. You, you, you're you're unwound. You relax from the day and then you have a nice, pleasant dinner and a lovely conversation with your family. I'm so glad it's back. I really enjoyed having a week off from the boom box. It just kind of settled me down and centred me a little bit, but my life did feel a little bit. Empty without those boomer complaints. 

The pressure was building. 

The pressure was building, and now now's it's time for release. This is your safe space to bring your boomer complaints to us. The ones that have you saying things that might sound so outlandish that you think. 

Two weeks of no. 

Yeah, good, good. 

Maybe you're channelling your mother or your father, and your reply to your comment would be OK, boomer. Yes, and that's OK. You can do it here. It's a safe space and we all are gonna identify probably relate to it. Roll our eyes in the back of our head together and have a good old laugh about it. Yeah. Together. Yes, not. 

Hmm. 

At you. With you? Yes. What do we got? OK. 

Victoria is responsible for this week's boom. 

Yes. Thank you, Vic. 

We need to bring back my space. I loved getting to rank my friends. Some of you really need to be put. In your place. 

Wow. I do like that there was a lot of pressure with that. I don't think that that's that's a safe option to be bringing back. You're my number one best friend and you're my second best friend. What about me? Oh, well, you're my third. 

Why did I drop out of your top 8? What did I? Do, yeah, especially after a night out. If you drop down the list after a night out, you'd be like, what did I say after vodka? 

Yeah. That's the we're almost a little bit outside of the boom box here because I don't think boomers would have subscribed to that or even Gen X's to that millennials maybe a little bit. 

Yeah, it probably is more a millennial complaint. But you know, we welcome all complaints. 

But definitely to the ranking thing, yeah. But I do say in the in the in the playground as as a. As a youngster, you know. Without the luxury of social media, you would still very much wear your heart on your sleeve as far as the hierarchy of your friends go. Yeah, you can come to the party, but by the time we get to like 9 or if you're not in the top ten, you're not coming. I think that was the leveller. Like the Myspace top five or 10 or whatever list it was was very similar to the invite. 

Hmm. 

Well, you're. You're not my best. You're my third. 

Best friends? 

List for the birthday party, except for the fact that it could be updated weekly, whereas your top 10 friend list was really only updated annually with the birthday party. 

There's actually a guy that that does it manually now and his names, Jimmy and he's he's. 

Hmm. 

Posted it on. 

How? What? How do you mean? 

So he every weekend he sends a text to a group chat and rearranges his top 8. So from one week. It's like thanks for the ride last night mate. You're up to #2 and Eric's #1, Blake's number 2. Jacob's #3, Caleb's number 4 Keith's number 5. Sam's number six. Jared's number. 

Ohh really? Is it only to the 8? 

Even Matt's number 8 and to which Blake replies. OK. And then the next week, Blake gave me a ride from McCarthy's last night. Maybe you should have answered your phone. So then Blake moves up, right, and Eric moves down. 

Hmm. 

Huh. 

And so then he messages Eric and he says Blake's very close to replacing you let. Me borrow your truck. And so he just sends that around every weekend and he just reorganises. 

Finally, friends against each other. 

The lives. 

Based on who does things for him. 

The person's a wizard level narcissist. 

So he does it. A manual, a manual top eight. I think that's. 

Great. I think that's narcissism 101. Let's go over to the hatches, matches and dispatches portion of the show, and before we go any further, we we did have a marriage, we had a. Marriage. Ohh, that's not. The clue? No, that's not the clue. So I figure we should mark that first. So it was, it was later in the. 

Oh, sure, Mr that you got married. 

Week. Compared to the clue. The clue happened on the 6th of June. This happens on the 11th of June. Alicia Silverstone married her long time partner, Christopher Jarecki. And they had a serene for your yawning. Are you alright? Am I keeping you up? Yeah, it is a bit boring. They had. Especially when you talk about serene eco conscious ceremonies. Because that's what they had on the shores of Lake Tahoe, California. 

I was just a bit bored. That's the eco conscious mean. Like like paper straws. 

I think they picked up their rubbish after they left. I I'm not sure. They they, they they met outside a movie theatre in 1997 and they dated for eight years before they got married. Then they got married in an intimate beachfront wedding. 

Good, good. 

Which are reflected their commitment to environmentalism and animal rights. So I don't know if they factored. 

At the beach. 

It in their vows. 

Most animals. 

And stuff. Yeah, well. They're actors, right? Like you know. 

And how did they? Did they meet outside a movie theatre like, were they going on a date? And they met, just met outside. They'd go into the date. Or they both just standing outside, like, hey, you look, you would you like to go on a. Date you look nice. Do you wanna sit next? How did this happen? 

I didn't want to drill down that far. Like, it's not a really it's it's not. 

OK. That's the interesting bit. I don't care. 

A deep dive. 

About the eco bit the. Eco bits. Boring. I just wanna know how. They met the they share popcorn. 

Outside a movie theatre. I don't know what the movie was. I don't know whether they bumped into each other. I don't know. Next time you can do the research on this one and then we we'll find out anyway. 

Yeah. OK. 

They are. They exchange. They got married. There you go so. Let's do this. Ohh just by the. Way no longer married Standard Hollywood thing. They're divorced. Yeah, yeah. 13 years they separated in 2018. Apparently they're committed to their their son and Co parenting. I don't know if they're committed to the environment now, but whatever. We're under the clue anyway, which is a dispatch, a celebrity that passed away on the 6th of June 2000 and. 

Oh, that's a shame. So that any type ********. 

I've that said this. 

Benjamin, I am not trying to seduce you. 

Now, if you said Anne Bancroft. You would be correct. 

Best known for her role as Mrs. Robinson in the graduate, she passed away the age of 73. Her performance left an incredible mark on cinema history and has been quoted in many, many songs. That is to you, Mrs. Robinson. 

As Missus Robin said. Oh yes. Yes, everyone knows that film. Yeah, yeah. 

Song and then that that grab was in the. Hey, you're just too funky for me song. 

Uh-huh. Uh, huh. She was very renowned for that. I think she was annoyed that she was renowned for that because she's also in a movie called The Miracle Worker, which I think she was more proud of. That was kind of her, her her magnum opus. I guess as far as an actor goes for getting an Oscar nomination or whatever. 

And lots of. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, but she passed away on the 6th June Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan. She had uterine cancer. Yeah. Terrible. 73 years old. Like we said, born Anna Maria Luisa Italiano on the 17th of September 1931. In the bro. 

Hmm. 

5 decade career. Critical acclaim for a portrayal of Anne Sullivan, the dedicated teacher of Helen Keller in the Broadway production, and the film adaptation of the Miracle Worker, which earned her an Academy Award for Best Actress. But Despite that she became more well known for her role as Mrs. Robinson. 

Umm, she won an Oscar to Tony Awards and. Me married comedian filmmaker Mel Brooks in 1964. They had a son, Max, and they were together until she till she died actually. 

Yes. Yeah, yeah, she. 

Widespread mourning across the entertainment industry. 

This is Robinson. You're trying to seduce it. 

Anne Bancroft was Mrs. Robinson, the elder woman to Dustin Hoffman's emerging young man in the graduate. The movie, directed by Mike Nichols, was a classic the role, her most famous, but not the role she liked best. With all the good work I've done, some of it very good, she said. All people want to talk about is Mrs. Robinson. 

Right. You got me in your house. You're not drinking. Put on you. 

Yeah, unfortunately you don't get to kind of choose the things that people latch on to, but look a great legacy and very famous nonetheless. And I thought of a pretty poignant death, even though she's not of our generation. I think like our parents would have watched that film in the 70s, and I often heard it mentioned in in their kind of pop. Sure. So, yeah, that's let's dispatch with her for this week. Let's dispatch with ourselves, cause that's the end of the show for this week. Probably a few things happening next week which we can get to then. 

We've got Michael Jackson's acquittal. 

Ohh geez, we gotta talk about that. That's always controversial. 

Uh. Great. And Australia leaving E Timor as well. 

Ohh yes, the last of the Australian troops to leave E Timor. That was very monumental. Alright, we'll do that next week. Make sure you come and find us on the social search for T -. 20 podcast, Facebook, Instagram. Tick tock, love you guys. Make sure you tune in your support means the world to us and we'll. 

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