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Introduction (0:00:00). Where are we? What are we doing here? We answer existential questions, and podcast.

Story Fundamentals. (0:05:28). We're joined by Gabe Rivin, former showrunner for the Wondery's American Scandal and writer for publications including The Atlantic and The Paris Review. Spencer talks with Gabe about the raw materials that make a good story, they offend basically every fan of Star Wars, and we gain a new appreciation for Erin Brockovich.

Debrief! (1:11:16). Justin somehow edges his way back on the show (who gave him his security card back?!), and brings questions.