Embracing God & Money! Feat: Sam's BESTIE Caramie Ann!

Embracing Transformation with Caramie Baker

In this episode of The Samantha Parker Show, Samantha Parker sits down with her long-time friend Caramie Baker, who has been on a transformational journey of self-discovery.

They discuss Caramie's work in helping individuals develop a healthy relationship with money, the significance of overcoming mental obstacles, and the importance of staying true to oneself.

The conversation also touches on personal stories, family dynamics, and the power of faith and spiritual growth. Caramie shares insights into her event, the Freedom Formula, which aims to inspire and equip individuals with tools to achieve freedom in various aspects of their lives.

00:00 Welcome to the Samantha Parker Show

00:22 Podcast Beginnings and Upgrades

01:40 Introducing Caramie and Her Transformation Journey

02:14 Overcoming Doubt and Embracing Change

05:22 Spiritual Growth and Trust in God

14:30 Financial Mindset and Money Management

20:47 Personal Growth and Support Systems

24:41 The Turning Point: Making a Life-Changing Decision

25:37 Finding Comfort in Small Pleasures

25:56 Family Connections and New Beginnings

26:37 Embracing Personal Growth and Breakthroughs

28:16 The Power of Voice and Expression

30:30 Overcoming Mental Struggles

39:58 Family Meetings: Celebrating Wins and Failures

44:26 Future Plans and Flexibility

46:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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 Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Samantha Parker show. Today I am sitting down with my friend. I always say, you're like my bestie. I love that. I love you being you bestie would, oh, did you wanna hold hands? I don't know, but yes. Yes. Okay. So welcome back to the podcast. This is my friend Caramie. She is in studio with me today, and we are in studio.

If you guys are watching this on YouTube, like this is a vibe, right? This is so cool. This is a big upgrade because you helped me start my podcast on my couch in my living room. That's right. Like a year and a half ago. Yeah, and we actually record it twice. 'cause the first time it didn't work.

Remember? It didn't record, didn't work. I didn't know what I was doing. I had all new equipment. I didn't know how to use it. And then you were like, no, come back and do it. Yeah, that was really fun. So we recorded in my living room with like kids going by and everything. And dogs. Yeah. That was great.

Major upgrade. It looks beautiful. Yeah. Major upgrade. Thank God. You know what's so fun is I just moved over to this new office space and you're here too. I know. It's like we get to see each other every day. I know. It was my selling point. Yeah. I was like, oh, Jeremy's here too. And it's been exciting because your daughter, Cindy, she's over here in the background making sure everything runs, but that's your daughter that does a bunch of stuff for me, and that's cool too.

Yeah, it's actually been really cool seeing her be able to be a part of all this and just learning your business like, holy cow, there's so many ins and outs. That you do so much value that you bring that you don't, people don't even see that's happening behind the scenes. And it's truly incredible, just the value that people get from the high, how high quality you are, and the process and the offerings that you offer.

Oh, I've been blown away. Oh thank you. It, there's like a little bouncing mac thing. I don't know what that is. Okay, so I'm gonna introduce you though. You ready for my formal introduction? Yes I'm ready. Today I have a very special guest, my amazing friend, ka Caramie, I've already screwed it up, Caramie, Baker.

Caramie has been on a transformation journey of taking massive leaps in doing the deep subconscious work to truly become. The best version of herself. Okay, so actually this is how we're gonna start this podcast. We're just gonna break down this bio you sent me it's funny. Wait, hold up. I didn't know you were asking for a bio.

All you said is what have you been up to lately? But you basically sent me a bio. I like it. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. Let's run. Run it. Great. Okay. So tell me what this means though. A transformational journey of taking massive leaps and doing the deep subconscious work. About three or four months ago it, there was, and I'm like trying to recall exactly if it was just a moment or there was like a shift that happened internally and it's like I knew that I couldn't keep playing the same mental game that I was playing before and I had to do life differently.

Like it was literally hitting a precipice in my marriage and my finances and everything where I'm just like ready to go all in on what it is I'm here to do. And so what was the mental game you were playing though? The mental game I was playing in the background was a lot of doubt, and it was like I immediately saw myself as failing in almost everything I was doing, and so that kept me from actually going for the things that I actually wanted or even creating a vision because it just felt like this foggy thing out there that I'm going. I don't know what I really want. And you try step mom, but you can't really emotionally connect to it.

And I'm like, I'm done not knowing, right? It's time to actually choose and decide. And so it was making the decisions to start moving forward and not allowing doubt to entertain my mindset anymore. How did you do that? Were you just listen, Mrs. Doubt. You can stay in the freezer bitch.

Yeah. What'd that look like? At first it looked like a decision, an absolute decision to not entertain the thoughts. What that actually translates to though is consistent effort and practice to shift it. And so I actually ended up hiring a couple mentors that I work with they're phenomenal mentors that have worked with Bob Proctor, so I get a lot of Bob Proctor style.

Yeah. I love it. And then on top of that, doing some different energy practices to get my body to actually know this. I literally have triggers all around my house. Like I expect to win, like all these things that I'm constantly planning in my mind. But the biggest challenge has been okay, if I notice the doubt creep in, it's no, I'm not believing that anymore. This is who I'm choosing to be and literally rewriting the scripts and it's been challenging 'cause I'm starting to see all the subconscious ways. I am constantly sabotaging myself. And yeah. You know what's so funny is I'm sitting here and I'm like, Jeremy would never do that.

You wouldn't think so. No. But it's interesting how it like comes in layers, right? And you don't know what you don't know until you know it. And then I started realizing that, oh, the whole reason I haven't really gone all in on business before is 'cause I genuinely believed that I was gonna fail.

And so what did I do? I took a leap, I got an office. I said, no, like this is me being serious about business. I'm gonna actually get out there and have those conversations every day, even if I don't know what I'm doing. I'm willing to look stupid as F and fall on my face, whatever it's gonna take so that I can learn how to do this.

And it's. Been embarrassing in a lot of different moments. It's been really fun in a different moment. It's exciting. It's been all the emotions so that's, I think that's really cool. Yeah. I would've thought you were already like just doing the thing. I was doing the thing, but there was a subconscious pattern that was playing out that every time I thought I was doing the thing, it was like this little version inside of me.

It's like you can't really do it. Yeah. You can't dream that big. Yeah, you can't think that big. You know what my story is? Do you know it? Which one? Which, you know what mine is I like, I do things and then people are mean. And I was like, see, nobody likes me. Oh yes, I know that one. Yeah, you've seen that one play out a lot.

Yeah. Crush it. Smash it in the face. Okay, hold on. Now we gotta move on to part two of Cami's bio. She's been diving deep into rewiring her identity, strengthening her trust in God, and emotionally connecting to her vision. So I have to say.

It was maybe like a month or two ago you said, God, and that was the first time I've ever heard you talk about God. And then when you sat that over today, I was like, Jeremy's bringing out the big GOD. Yeah. Yeah. What does that look like for you? Yeah. I think, honestly, I got to a point where I was so tired of hearing everyone say.

The universe or spirit or God or whatever. I'm like, that was like this long drug out sentence. And I was like, okay, what does this universal energy source, what does this actually, what? What do I get to call this because I'm tired of being this or whatever. Yeah. And so it was more about I truly believe that there is a creator and a source that is true.

Working through me in ways I can't even see. And so if I'm to be in relationship, like it's Hey, whatever your name is, or whatever, Samantha, whatever, it's like, what am I calling you? And so it was this moment of to me it resonated with the word God, and I don't necessarily perceive God as the same.

A lot of people do, but I have my direct relationship. And so for me it was developing that trust and knowing, like I'm constantly looking for evidence of how I'm being supported by the unseen and how I'm being supported and guided to the right people, the right opportunities in every moment. And that's like literally fueled my faith into everything.

That's what took me from doubt to trust. I love it because for so long I would always say oh, or are you comfortable if I use God or should I say God or the universe? Exactly that, but I think a lot of it was because so many people that I know, especially here in Utah, and you might actually feel this way because of the religion that you grew up in and you grew up in a ultra conservative circle of that religion word Polygamous.

Mormonism. Yeah, polygamous Mormonism. SLDS, that's what it's called. Oh yeah. FLDS. But growing up in that's like even tighter. I know a lot of people have so much trauma around God that they just don't wanna use it. So I just have noticed I'm a little careful.

Yeah. And you have to be, and I can always tell when somebody cringes with the word or whatever else, but I finally just got to a point it's just doesn't even matter. Yeah. I just don't fucking care anymore. It's my relationship with them and, I think it's amazing it made me really happy, because I feel like I'm almost like a closet closeted.

God, are we coming out of the closet tonight? We are coming outta the closet. I love it. I love praying. I have a different version of God than, what you find in religion. Of course, but yeah, I even started reading the Bible. I've been really enjoying the Bible and what I did is I watched the chosen and read like the chapters and followed it.

And it was fun because you could put like characters to it. Oh, that's cool. And if you go on Pinterest, there's like different ways to read the Bible. So I was following like a little Pinterest graphic I found. But then, next up was Genesis. And I've been sitting in Genesis for months because I'm like, what is this?

Have you read Genesis? I have, I had as a kid. Yeah. And I'm like, this is like malarkey. Oh no. I, it is just, it's testing me a little bit, but I've been asking people about it who are like, very faithful that way. And I'm like, I'm just really struggling with this genesis. So many people are like, oh man, Genesis is tough.

Yeah. You gotta pick out the pieces of gold that resonate with you. Jake, which is my husband for context for people, comes in the bedroom one night and he's what are you doing? And I'm like I just have some follow up questions. He's okay. And I'm like on this page it says this.

And then I'm like flipping 12 pages ahead. But then on this page it says this, and then it says they had sons and daughters, but they're missing a lot of gaps. And he's okay, we need to step back and look at the whole picture. This is really old.

Yeah, that's true. There's major pieces missing. This is from my husband who grew up very Mormon. He's it's been heavily altered to fit a narrative. So the reason why it's jumping from that to that, because I was just trying to make the lineage make sense. That's listed in the Bible.

Yeah. And there's big gaps in it. I'm like, what were they procreating with? Where did the baby come from? Gosh. And he's okay, step back. I think that I heard somewhere that really, if we look at any history book and. Especially, the Bible and all these other things, it's only like 10% of history.

There's so much that has never been recorded or known, or how many other people's stories were actually there, but not even recorded. It's that, yeah. Yeah. We only know a small sliver, and so we're trying to piece those all together. You can even see, 2020 is a great example. You can see how they were pulling down statues.

And changing, different narratives and you're like, but that's not how that happened. Yeah. Or that's not how I learned that happened, exactly. So it's really easy to see. And even, I remember what grade was I in? I was in junior high and in our history books, they were having us, like they had xeroxed paper.

And we were like, with the glue stick, we were gluing over pages in the history book because our history books had like Russia. Is the Soviet Union. Oh, wow. And so it, we were, because it had just happened really. It didn't happen that long ago. Uhuh, where the Soviet Union divided up into the countries, gave all the countries back or whatever.

Oh wow. Wow. Yeah. Anyways, that's a side tangent. That is crazy. You can only trust so much when it comes to that stuff and just take, I like to also feel into the energy of what is this actually trying to convey and not take things so literal sometimes. So much of it I feel like can be, there's such a gift and a lesson and so much of it, we're willing to look for the message underneath the message.

Yeah. And this might piss some people off and immediately stop listening. But I've even gotten to the point where like manifesting to me feels so. I don't know, like disingenuine, is that the word I'm looking for? It's like I manifested that and I'm like. I don't, but did it's like you prayed, you put your intentions into it.

I think there was more going on than just me driving that boat forward. Oh, a hundred percent. And you find that it's pretty common, especially in spiritual communities where they have disassociated from the idea of a God or something different. And that's okay. There's no judgment here.

It's just recognizing that, I look at my results, there's absolutely no way that was all on me. And the moments that I've had, the most incredible inspirational moments, I have to stop and go. I'm so thankful God for your support in this because there's so many players that are beyond what I ever could have done on my own.

Yeah, I was telling Cindy this yesterday. Hi Cindy. Yesterday, I was telling her that on my flight to LA last weekend I'm in the St. George Airport and I had gone upstairs, got a green juice, and was sitting there and I noticed this girl kept looking at me, so I just smiled at her and she's I know you.

And I was like, oh, maybe you know its St. George, like where have we met? Let's figure it out. And she's no, I like know you. And we chatted and she goes, I know how I know you. I watch your tiktoks. And she goes, can I sit? Can we sit together? So we sat at the table and she was going to a music festival, and she was five days sober and she was like, how do I do this?

And I got on that plane and I was like, there is no way that there's not a God that was like, Hey, you are meant to meet her today. Yeah. Wow. That gave me chills. Yeah, so there's stuff like that where I'm like, there's just no flipping way. No, even I would say the last three months let's see.

Since May, there's a specific date when I feel like everything just went to ship a little bit in my personal life and so much stuff I've been working through with my family and I'm like, this is not fun, but there's no way I can look at what all of it is. Because you can see what's coming.

You can see the glory. The glory I'm air quoting, on the other side. But it's like when you're going through that shit, it really sucks. But you're like, there's no way that this isn't divinely guided. It is. Everything in the universe is happening for us.

I honestly believe that life is here, for us, and if we can see that everything that's happening is actually to conspire in our favor, we start looking at life through a completely different lens.

We're looking for the evidence of where we're supported, where we're loved, where we're taking care of, when something. Does come up. We're like, okay, if this is for me, what is this actually trying to teach me right now so that I can become the version that I actually know I'm here to be and the person I actually really am.

It's kinda like getting out of our way and we have to be humbled sometimes and it's fun. I know. I feel hold on. This is the one I told Jake. Okay. On one of our many 10,000 walks we've taken lately. But I just finished 75 hard yesterday. Good job. I know I've seen you on your journey.

You've been doing really good. Yeah, but I'm gonna keep the nightly walks up. I might just not mention to him what day we're on. But on the walk, I said, I know it's somewhere in the Bible. It's like God holds you to the fire, or iron sharpens iron type of thing, and you have to be forged in the fire.

And I told him, I said, I'm feeling really crispy and I'm ready to get outta the fire. But I can tell that it's like forging something better. It is like just the person you're, I even just the last couple months seeing the person that you've. Been I wanna say forged now, but been formed into through the fire.

There's a light in you that is even stronger. Like you seem more solid and grounded in more than I've ever seen you in who you are. Oh, thank you. I know we've known each other for a long time, I feel and I think you've seen me in some of my shittiest places too.

I think even just. That the year that Jake was deployed, I feel like you were just there for me in ways that like, just blew my mind and, I don't think people realize I might cry how lonely that journey is when your husband's like overseas at war, yeah. And I feel like you were just always there.

Thank you. It was a pleasure. You were one of my favorite people still are. To just be around and you just have such a heart of gold. Thank you. But so do you. Aw, thanks. And you have a beautiful family too. I just love your kids too. Aw, thanks. We love Cindy. We love Cindy. She's my favorite.

I've never been called out this many times on a podcast. No. Last time I was having her look up facts. For us. We're like, we're big time now. We're like Joe Rogan. Or Vaughn, we could even pull stuff up on the screen. Oh my gosh, I love this so much.

Yeah, okay. But really what you do for people is help them with their financials, their money. I really focus on creating a wealthy. Mindset and actually sitting down and getting their money in order. Probably the best way of saying it is I help them have a good relationship with money on all fronts, like mentally, emotionally, and physically.

Let's get them actually set up so that they actually have tangible tools, to get them where they want to go. The interesting thing I've noticed the majority of people, the hardest part about it. That they feel so scared to just look at where they're at.

And just having that moment of oh, this actually isn't so scary. And I can feel really comfortable sitting down and have someone hold my hand just long enough to like, okay, I can breathe. There is hope here. It's a big deal. I honestly, I wasn't comfortable looking at my finances until a few months ago.

And I had to get really real with myself. And where I was at and literally this was just like three or four months ago that I did this. Yeah. We it was like my first day at Kiln too. We went to this little money mastermind they had here. Oh yeah, that's right. The financial mastermind.

A financial mastermind. Yeah. And it was, he said something like, what did he say? He asked the question of like. Have you ever asked yourself where's all the money going? And I was like, yes. I just did this. So I figured out where all my money was going, and I saved like over $2,200 last month.

Like I put that in savings. Oh, that's awesome. Because I was like, we're not doing that or that. I even canceled my serious radio, but not because it didn't bring me joy. Like I'm still buying my lattes and stuff, but because I realized it doesn't really align with what I want to do. Yeah. It's all about value alignment.

Yeah. And a lot of people aren't even. Conscious of where they're spending it, let alone they wouldn't spend it if they realized it. Yes. And you know that guy. Then after we got, we did, we got Mansplained guys, but the guy after like made me feel dumb because he's I wouldn't look at where, I wouldn't worry about where my money's spent, my money's going.

I would look at how to make more money. And I turned to Sarah, which is someone you work with, and she was sitting next to me and I was like, okay. But like I, I just kinda whispered. I was like, but shouldn't you like be good with your money? Yeah. And she's you should be a good steward of your money.

Absolutely. Being, and I loved that. Yeah. And that's really the key here is are we being good stewards? How are you gonna be a good business owner or run your family anything if you are not a good steward? And by the way, it doesn't matter what your role is, everyone has their own personal relationship with money.

And in fact, when I think back on. Even the times where I was a stay at home mom and I wasn't the one actively bringing in the money, me developing my relationship with money actually was what helped my husband bring in more. And for us to keep it as a family, like it impacts everything. Yeah. Because you could have just been swiping the cards and a hundred percent Yeah.

Not asking questions. Exactly. And so I think it's super important to get educated and then be able to build that relationship. Just like we talked a minute ago about building that relationship with God. Ooh. Like it's powerful. See what she did there? That was really good. No, but it is money drives everything, right now I'm not where I wanna be and I wake up in the morning and I'm thinking about it, I recently, read a book, I recommended it to you. Gosh, I keep, every time I forget the name of it and then I have to send it to you. But the concept in this book is, save all you can.

Earn all you can and then give all you can. Oh, I like that. And I love that. And it was talking a lot about if you're good stewards of your money, basically, you're not spending like. Accidentally spending $500 a month at Starbucks in the book.

Like his wife literally was spending like $400 a month at Starbucks. So they were like, Hey, could we do a hundred dollars? But looking at your money and then also making all you can, you make all you can. You're able to give all you can. And I loved it because they said when God calls you to something, if you're not financially ready, like you won't be able to accept it. Yeah, and I love that. Yeah. I think there's a huge correlation to money in God and what our purpose is here to do, and when we understand our purpose and what we're really. When you're really on purpose for what you're here to do, that's when the money can really start blessing you. It like creates that deep fulfillment in life, not just, oh yeah, I just worked to pay my bills. Yeah, there's actually meaning behind why you're here. Yeah. And that's really cool if you're able to do Google, if you're able to do amazing things with your money as well.

Help people when they need it or help family when they need it, or. You know right now. The other day I sat down and I had my notebook and I was like, okay, God. Show me how I can give today. And the message that I got is right now you're really pouring into one of your kids. It's like all your extra resources are going into her, her mental health, her getting her back in school and getting her back to where she needs to be.

Like I, and I was like, oh, you're right. And it was like, that's where all your extra stuff is, so just pour into your kids right now. That was like the blatant message I got. Yeah, it was awesome. I love that. One day we'll get her on the podcast to tell her story. She's amazing.

She's such a sweetheart. I know. She is. She's been coming in here. You've seen her. Oh yeah. Yes. Yeah. My Harley, my cute Harley. Yeah. She's so cute. Yeah. Okay, so you help people with your financials. Is that. What is that? I don't like, what is it you, is it like putting it in a spreadsheet?

Like what the hell are you doing? We do a money discovery process for people and there's multiple different ways that I work with people, but first and foremost, we sit down and do a money discovery and just help them, it. I really like to customize it to that person and what they need. If somebody's coming and they've struggling with a lot of debt, I'm gonna give 'em all the resources and show 'em exactly what they can do to get outta debt.

If there's somebody who's Hey, I wanna save and I don't know where to sit there and put my money, we're gonna talk about what the best tax strategies are, the best saving strategies we can do. Oh, tax strategies. I can up to a certain degree, share with, I don't, I'm not a tax accountant.

So it's, I can legally. We will not discuss that. We can talk about the best tax savings and what we can do on those. Sitting down just, helping people put savings into place and helping them to actually think about how much do I need in order to get to the point where I don't have to trade my time for money anymore.

And I think that's the ultimate goal of a lot of people we wanna get to where we're not just slaving away and we're actually living on purpose. How do we get our bills and our basis? Hell or taken care of so that we can then do the other things that we're actually here to do. The things I think are actually more important for our life, and we have to, but as long as we have a body though, we have to have money.

If we didn't have a body, we'd just be fooling around, do whatever. We wouldn't need the actual physical money to have the life that we want, and I believe. I do believe it's our inherent right to be rich. And being rich is more than just money. It's being rich in relationships, being rich in connection in, all in our health and all these other avenues.

And so having money to supply that type of life that we feel is right for us. And everyone has a different thermostat of what they want, what they feel like they're here to do. Yeah. And so that's first and foremost. And then also sitting down and collaborating with a lot of businesses. So we help them to up their cash flow as well as get on track to take their personal leaps, which that's a lot of fun too.

Okay, so how do you help businesses up their cash flow? It's, we go through several processes. Some of it's like the money discovery look at their actual numbers and stuff. But a lot of it is getting the mindset right and the clarity that person needs as a business owner to go, what is it?

What's the leap that I'm ready to take, and where do I want to grow? Money discovery for your business?

Yeah, money discovery for your business. A lot of, I work with a couple other people where we'll get on track to get Right. How do you wanna run your business and are you even in the roles that you wanna be in? And what action steps are you aligned up to sit there and take? I like to help people instead of going from A to B.

The biggest thing is like you can take a company or any person whether you're running a company or not, but I really enjoy, especially working with women in business 'cause it's like there's usually a heart involved of why they started something, but they feel really afraid to look at their money and their finances of where that's at.

And so if you can help get them to create clarity on how they wanna run their business, what their goals are,

you're doing a really great job. Yeah. So are you. So I think the biggest thing is helping somebody get clear on. I don't wanna sit there with somebody and go work really slow to go from A to B2C to D and just work their way down. I'm looking at how can I take somebody from A to M to A to D to Z if they wanted, like how do you take those big leaps and skip a lot of those steps in between, which is shifting their identity.

In order to shift your identity, you really have to start going subconscious and what are the thoughts and the things I believe about myself? Have you ever heard that story of the Fly by Bob Proctor? Maybe? It's, I'm pretty sure it's Bob Proctor. So quote. If I'm wrong, that's all good. It's like where the fly goes up against the window and it's trying to get out and it will literally keep hitting the window over and over again until it dies.

And that's how often do we do that in life as entrepreneurs, as anybody just thinking they want to get to this goal and they'll just keep trying the same thing over and over again. It never gets 'em anywhere. Our literal culture and society. Built on that. You go from school into college into beginning a career.

You're like, if you follow this ladder, that eventually is gonna hopefully get you there. But usually by that time you're too old to really enjoy most of it, and you just end up in the grave. Most dreams go to the grave and die. And so when you think about a fly the way out of this is, can the fly back up long enough to go, what's a different way I get to do this?

How else do I get to operate my life? What are those leaps that will actually get me there 10 times faster? It may. And this is where I totally believe God has a hand in it. Where are the conversations and the, I'm like one conversation away from a whole new life, right? Who do I get to talk to?

What else do I get to implement? How do I get to behave differently? If I was this person that was gonna make 50 grand a month, how would that person behave? How would they act? How would they talk? What would they actually believe about themselves? And so start integrating those pieces and creating that new identity.

Now they're gonna. Skyrocket. And so that's my favorite conversations that we get to have with people. Maybe we should be having these conversations. Yeah. What time is it? Can you come over? Yes. And will you come over for dinner? Done. You've been over my house in forever. I know. We need to play. I know.

You know when I stopped drinking, I stopped inviting people over. My dad. Yeah, because, and I think I'm in a space to where I'm like, what would I invite you over for games? I don't know, something. I need to look at that. You know what I'm saying? If it's been one thing for so long, or it was one thing for so long, now it's you get to rebuild what that looks like, but I can see you not wanting to refill it with the same thing.

And I actually think it's really cool. You haven't invited a lot of people over. You gave that space for that too. Be like excavated yeah, and it feels safe. I like, I come home and it's safe here. It's, your safe haven that's like holding this new version of you that's been reborn.

I moved a bunch of my stuff around and it's fun. I don't know why. I'm like, you need to come see it. Yes. I will come see it. Which reminds me of the time that we like got all that shit out of your closet. That was. So funny. I'm like, what are we five? We're totally five. We're like going through my husband's ring collection.

Ooh, look at this one. And then you're like, showing me all the dresses you bought for all the things. It was fun. It was good times span. Yep. So what do you feel has been the biggest trajectory forward for you? Using any of these things you're discussing, so you're sitting here like a few months ago and you're like, F this.

I always call it like, I'll just put a gun to my head, man. I'm done. Yeah. I don't wanna say that, but I said it like, what do you feel like you've done though that kind of put you there to sitting here now where you're like, I'm really working through this. It felt like a moment where I had no ch it sounds weird 'cause it's I know I had choice, but I had no choice.

I knew that if I didn't make a decision to go all in, like my whole life was gonna fall apart. And it seems weird because there's nothing that would've, that phy to physically prove that nothing on the outside looked like that. But internally it's like you don't have a choice. Your life is going to fall apart and everything's gonna crash if you don't make a different decision.

And so it was just, it wasn't even a. Thought of what do I wanna do? It was like, you have to do this. And I knew I did. And so this has just been the internal journey of recognizing it and it's been interesting. Sometimes I'll deal with feeling, I don't wanna say low in energy, but it's like those moments where I just like wanna crawl back in bed and be like.

I'm just not doing this for five minutes and then I'm back in. Okay, we're back in. I do that yesterday. I've been watching. Don't. Okay. Don't make fun of me. I've been watching clips of Dr. Phil. I love you. Everyone needs to numb out once in a while, yep. And I did that last night. I was like. It's like Jake comes in the bedroom, he is what are you doing?

And I'm like, I'm watching my shows. I was just watching a 15 minute clip at Dr. Phil and I was like, when this is over, we're going for a walk. We're gonna go down to the park. Yep. My sister just lived or just lived, my sister just moved by us. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, my parents bought a house like two streets over from us.

And my sister's huge house. You gotta come over and see it. It's like from the nineties, so it's huge. But it's like kind of quirky and I love it. Yeah. It's a pool. Oh, I love that. Yep. I'll bring the kids over. My parents aren't there. But it's so big. My sister moved in with them.

So like Jameson and my sister were right down the street, so we were like all at the park last night. It was bomb. That's really cool. Yeah. But anyways, I was watching my little Dr. Phil show, like 15 minutes and I don't know what I was about to, sometimes you do, you just have to have those moments where you're like, I just need to not for a second, and then I can get back in the game because

you're, when you take leaps, it's like you're literally being stretched like a rubber band. And it's like this old version of yourself is sitting down here and this new version is going, Nope, this is where we're going. And there it's like being stretched further for, and I actually can feel the stretching happening within me of where I'm like letting go of those last pieces.

And I literally, even this morning, I was like, I think I'm in a freaking break. Like I feel it, but I'm like. Excited about the break because I know the break means that I'm shooting forward. Yeah. And so if I can sit there and shoot forward and it can be this amazing, like into this new version, yeah.

It might feel uncomfortable. It definitely feels uncomfortable, but it also is, for me, it's a good thing. And so I'm like excited for that. That breakthrough, I guess is probably the way to say not breakdown a snap. The snap. To where it's just like I get it so deeply in my body that it's just becomes natural of who I am, not me.

Constantly trying to get it to stick. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's okay. It's all part of the learning process. I know. It's fun being human. Yeah. You wanna know what my new favorite thing is right now? What? So have you heard Diet Coke is just a fridge cigarette?

Did you make that up? No. It's it's on TikTok right now. It's trending. Just pull something to take the edge off. I'll never unsee it. I'm never gonna unsee it with you. I need two a day, make a, make ai, make a little cigarette with a diet coat. Just a little something to take the edge off.

Yeah. What are you most. Excited for what do you have coming up? I'm really excited about this event that we're doing next week. We did the event, it's called Freedom Formula up North about a couple months ago. So this podcast will air, like pretty far, probably out from that. Yeah, that's fine.

Is that something you're gonna keep doing? I'm gonna be doing a series of events. What I am excited the most about is that I'm really committed to, and part of the thing that I've resisted for a long time, let's just be honest, is really getting my voice out there more

that. Even just doing the podcast, when I start speaking, I feel so alive and I feel so me and I'm like, I know this is a part of what I'm meant do. Yeah, you're like very lit up and you're very excited to share, thank you. Yeah, and that's where I feel so called to do things more and so I will be doing different events, but even just doing more.

I'm like, I don't even care if I'm just talking myself on a podcast. I know this is a part of that stretching I was just talking about where it's like requiring me to take it to the next level and I don't know what's gonna come through it, but I do know that it's important for me to really step into showing up and serving in a bigger way.

Yeah. But a lot of it's that expression of my own voice for myself to actually stop holding myself back. I'm excited for it. I think, no, I am really excited about it. It's just, it's funny when you like look at why haven't I done it before? And it's oh, all the beliefs and the doubts

and everything about myself that have literally kept me from doing it. I'm sure you could look back and plot it on a graph if you had to on a whiteboard and you're like I put myself out that time. And you've repeated the cycle over and over. And I'm just speaking for myself here.

Yeah. So what do you think actually starts to shift some of those cycles in you? I think for me, it's when I decide I'm done. I've heard it before, like the pain either has to get big enough or the decision has to be made. With drinking, it was like that pain was big enough that I was done.

Yeah, that's, and now that I have this delusional mentality, I was like, oh, I didn't drink for over a year. Like I can just really fucking do anything. People were like with 75 hard. And I was like, no, it wasn't. There was a few nights where I didn't wanna do the second workout. Like we had been up camping and you know when you get home from camping and you're like, oh my God, and you're like washing all the laundry.

And then I even had to go bath the dogs and I'm like. Three days worth it, and that night it was 105 in her garage and I got on my Peloton and I had a PR on the Peloton. That is insane. Yeah. But I did not wanna get on the Peloton, but I felt good. I think when you can overcome your biggest demon, everything else feels.

Easily doable. And I know that this part of what everything I'm leaping into has been my biggest inner demon. It's been that mental game for me. A lot of people are like, oh, you're so happy. Oh, you have such a you seem like everything's so great. And I is, it's amazing.

But it doesn't change the fact that I have struggled throughout a lot of my life with this mental doubt and this mental game inside that just doesn't wanna do life a lot of the time. And so constantly. Pulling myself into a new state of being and going, I refuse. 'cause that's not even who I am. That's not what I'm gonna live by.

And so the more that I say, no, that's not who I am and this is who I am and reintegrate this new being, that's what I'm here for. I don't, you were telling me that you were having like a hard time, like getting up and getting outta bed and I was like, what is she. Yeah, it's not.

It's not who I am and I know that and I know a lot of the whole, even the desire to speak more is because that's where I feel even more aliveness. And so it's like doing those things that actually bring out more of who we are. Yeah. Okay. So tell me though about what you're, 'cause you said you did an event, salt Lake, you're doing one here locally.

Next Friday. Yeah. Freedom Formula and I'm sure we'll have more than one. Yeah. But is the Freedom Formula what? Freedom Formula? It's an event, where I've teamed up with, I don't know if you know any of them, but Tony Child, bill Banta, they're amazing. They were the guys I was talking about that worked with Bob Proctor and Sarah Morrison and.

I love it so much because we're bringing tangible tools in, but really a lot of it's done through inspiration. So it's how do we really deepen into the freedom of who we are? How do we build the momentum of our own being and create freedom in all areas of our life, like giving strategies and tools.

But I feel like the integration of the, our actual bodies of what does freedom get to mean to me? What does it mean to you, and what do you get to do to start experiencing actual freedom in your life? So it's really fun time. We get to get up and share and speak and engage everybody, and really create an experience where people leave feeling like massive clarity, creating momentum for themselves, and ultimately come home to who they really are.

That's rad. Yeah. Okay. So a lot of times we hear these phrases like, and you know me, I like to pick things apart, get to come home to who you are. Like what does that even mean? What does that mean? I like go home and I'm like, look, I'm Samantha. It's so funny. 'cause Yeah, that's been a phrase in my life.

And that was something that I even wrote about in my book. Hold on. Yes. I was like, as soon as she's done talking I'm gonna bring up her book. Okay. Keep going. Like coming home, i'm like, what is it called? Discover who you are. Yeah. I'm like, what's the name of my book? Not, that's not the name. It's Unravel and Reveal.

Discover. My gosh. Samantha, what is the name of my book? It's Unravel and Reveal the courage to let go and discover who you are. That was a mouthful. I have a couple copies. You have a couple copies. Thanks. You're thanks. You signed them. Such a great supporter. So coming home to who you are.

I think life is more of a remembrance, not a trying to be somebody else and trying to continue to, okay, I need to learn how to be this version. I think it's actually shedding all the layers of who we're not. And so coming home to who you are, it means that you've really let go of all the pieces that you're not.

You're saying, no, I'm actually not this, I'm not this. And you're letting these pieces go. So the real, you can actually come out. And I think in, when I say home, it's like that place of peace you're like in your body and you feel at peace. You feel at peace in your soul, you know that. The world can't shake you because you're just you, and there's nothing that could go wrong.

It's just like life is here for me and I'm just settled into who I am. Ooh, that's deep. I love that. Do you have the freedom formula mapped out though, like step one, step two, step three? Or is it more of a concept? So the freedom there is different things that we have mapped out for sure. Tony, bill, myself, we all bring different aspects to it and stuff like they've been in the coaching industry for over 30 years.

They're phenomenal at it and I really love a lot of the concepts and a lot of it's rooted in are you seeing life is here for you versus against you? Are you looking at the best case scenarios and having that deep belief in yourself, or are you looking at worst case scenarios and living from fear and anxiety and.

World, and how do you do that? How do you get yourself back into that state of calm, that state of knowingness in your body that you're just like, wow, I feel like I can, like you said, after you got stopped drinking, you felt like you could do anything. It's like integrating that into your being. So yes, it's definitely, it wasn't that weird too.

That is literally the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life, and it's just so weird to me. Especially we birth babies out of our vaginas and I'm like, that's the hardest thing I've ever done. I know. I always laugh when I think about birth though. 'cause I'm like so easy to get pregnant most of the time for most people.

It's a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Oh wait, yeah, you're right. For most people. Yeah. I sneezed when I was pregnant. But then there's those, you have no option. It's coming out one way or another. With drinking, and having those different, mental things going on. So much of it is a choice that we pick up and we choose over and over again because of the thoughts and the feelings and everything that are literally over clouding and taking over, it's.

Like trying to cut through this field of not who we are. And sometimes if we don't have the strength to do that, it can be. What do you think is the hardest thing you've ever done? Hardest thing I've ever done is to deal with the, I don't know, you wanna call 'em? Just the mental. I kind of call 'em demons right now.

In my head, I'm head like, depression. It's depression. It's depression. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just recognizing, like I've come to a really healthy place with it as far as oh, it shows up. Oh, hey, my friend depression's here. Alright. But I know it's not me. And so it's just like having the conversations.

What are you getting? What are you actually asking me to be aware of? Because so much of it, I think people look at it as this negative thing for me it's a call to look at something. And it's saying, Hey, can you slow down long enough to actually take a look at what's really going on in your life right now?

And that's what I kept refusing to do. And so that's where I have to remember that over and over again, like this is just asking for my awareness and my love right now. How can I bring love and awareness to it? And then it literally can be five minutes of it. It can be a whole couple days of it.

The faster that I can shift back into remembering it's not who I am and it's not what I'm here for and get clear on what it is it's asking of me. It's actually really cool. Have you had your hormones checked? Yes, I have. My hormones are actually phenomenal, believe it or not, because it's not like an active thing I have to deal with all the time.

Yeah. It's just one of those situational things that come up for me that it's oh, I feel the energy. It's like this energy of heaviness and it's okay, what are you asking? What do I get to do to pour love into myself and where do I get back into alignment? Because the minute I get back into alignment, I could be feeling, okay, here's a perfect example.

I went, surfing. On a lake the other day, you went surfing on a lake, surfing on a lake. Oh, surfing. First time boat surfing. Was that your first time? Isn't it fun? First time ever? It's easy, huh? I'm not gonna answer. It's easier. It takes me like a good 10 tries to get up, so I'm not gonna say it's, but it's okay.

I'm glad. No, but what I'm saying is it's not as hard as you anticipate. I didn't know what to anticipate. I didn't know what to expect. Last time I had done anything, I was water skiing when I was 12 and I got up the first time and I was like, oh, because you were 12. Yeah. You weighed 10 pounds.

I realize that now. Yeah. But I, what was. Crazy about it is that morning I woke up and I just had deep sense of heaviness and sadness and I was just like, okay, no worries. Like we're just gonna go, we're gonna play. And so I am the whole way there and on the boat, like it was this moment where I'm being surrounded by all these incredible people and I'm like, how cool is this that I get to be surround so many cra?

Incredible people, but I was feeling that still, and it was like the moment where if anyone had asked me the right question, I would've broke down in tears. But I was just like kept breathing and pouring love into myself. And then I got out into the water and I was just like, all right, here we go. And I was getting knocked on my butts.

So many times and like trying to get up, trying to get up. And I was really appreciating some of the women there 'cause they're like, okay, this time get into your body. And it was like the remembrance of things and one piece at a time, okay, now I want you to focus on breathing, and it just kept bringing it deeper and deeper.

And I was being so aware of my body in every moment. And then just like the first thing, okay, first hold the arm straight now. Clench or tighten the legs as you go up. Like just one step at a time. And eventually five or six times I finally get up, but then I fall down immediately again and I kept going, no, you're gonna go get back out there.

And so I went out probably 12 times. I don't know what it was, but the last three times I actually got up, see, and I was like, first time though, I was like, what do I do now? Like I'm up and they're like. Have fun, breathe, relax. Did you let go of the rope or did you keep it? I did. One hand I can't let go.

Yeah. With one hand I did. And so it was fun, but it was like that, that everything, all that heaviness has shifted and left in those moments and even after, like I was so good. And it was just that reminder that there's the, sometime this heavy energy that can sit there and take a hold, but it's not who you are.

And the moment that you remember who you are, there's no reason. For it to even take place. And I'm like hearing myself say that right now. And that is such a good reminder because it's like the moment you remember who you are, there's no reason for the heaviness. And I go slip in and out of remembering who I am and getting lost into who I'm not.

And it's a dance we play as humans. It's really funny. It is. And sometimes, this is a little different than what you're experiencing, but like lately, like the anxiety has been getting to me and it's, I kinda have to shift myself, right? Like I was just thinking, I'm like, oh, if I woke up and I know that feeling you're talking about jumping into that lake would've removed it, yeah. You're like, oh, just sometimes your body needs like that shock. And we are nature too. How often are we removing ourselves from our nature of who we are? And that's why I think nature does help so well with that, but also our nature in multiple ways.

How are we as natural human beings? And what is the nature of what we are here to do? Asking to come through. Yeah. So good job. Very cool. Ready? Fist bump. You're such a badass. So are you. I guess now we say Badie. You're a Badie. Badie. You're a badie. My bad friend. Is that the ling? Yeah, I like it. The sling.

That goes back to our conversation. That was off camera. What are you drinking? I attempted coffee. Coffee? Yeah. I'm not a huge coffee drinker. I was gonna say, I feel like every time I got a coffee you do tea. I do tea. And I was like, I want to pick me. So what do you like as a, sorry, lemme start that over as a family, 'cause I know you, you've got three kids.

I know your husband. Where do you kinda see yourself moving as a family? That's something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Just like moving physically or moving no, or maybe physically just do you sit down and look at like your family as a whole and you're like, where are we going?

Yeah, we definitely have like our family ultimate visions and stuff that we're wanting to create. I was just having this conversation yesterday with my husband actually. And it's interesting 'cause in the past we would've just been like yeah, we just wanna have this big ranch, which is still a part of our future.

And I know that my husband's, he's a creator, he's a builder. He's gonna have his big ranch and he's gonna have his big, he loves. Space. He really wants space that he can walk out to if he wants to walk out there but naked and nobody's watching, it's like the being out in the middle of nowhere, whatever.

This is an incredible dream, but I also recognize that there's different phases of life, I actually really love right now how much flexibility we have in the uncertainty of life and where things are going. There's so much uncertainty and once we make peace with that, we can go, okay, what's this next stepping stone that we are taking as a family?

And so our big commitment has been to continue that connection and like we do this fun family meeting every week. You do? Do you have to go to this, Cindy? Yes, I do. Do you love it? Yeah. Oh, you do? Yeah. Okay. It's really fun because what we do is we go in and we celebrate each other like crazy. So we celebrate our wins, we celebrate our failures.

Is there a cake? Yeah, we actually, Bragg, we did have cake once, so somebody has to bring a fun snack one time. The other day we actually had blindfolded all three of the kids. Me and Levi walked him through how to make three cakes. It was hilarious. That's funny. So we get to do fun. Did you film this, please?

We did I have it all for you? Please tell me. This will be on the TikTok. Okay. That would be so fun. Yeah. We do a fun activity and, but I think the most powerful part is we celebrate our failures. And we celebrate where we're heading next. And so everybody gets a chance to be heard. To be seen.

If a kids show up and they didn't have the failure, then they didn't take big enough risks. And so we're really encouraging our kids to get out. Can wait, hold on. Let's pause here. Cindy, do you like find yourself trying to fill at something?, To have the biggest failure. , I'm like, I would take them down. I would be like, I'll fall down the stairs. And that, what I love too is that our kids get to see that where mom and dad fell. And where we're human and where it's okay for them to grow up as and be adults and still be learning.

'cause we're not gonna have it all figured out. Yeah. That's amazing. So yeah, I think it's important to keep that connection going so that no matter where we go in life and, 'cause see, my kids are at the stage where, if my oldest is, you're getting close to being 20 now. And so who knows what, you have a hiss in store for you.

It's not, we don't have little kids anymore running around. So that's where I'm at too. Yeah. It's, I don't know what to expect. I love the idea of being able to just make the decisions as they come for the next stepping stone. And see where life brings us. Yeah. It feels freeing. I have some numerical goals, where I'm like even in like I did some different things like automated, like savings and stuff like that.

Yeah. I that, but other than that, I'm like, I don't know it, it feels great. It does. It feels really great. And just to be able to make the choices when we want and have the freedom to do that. Yeah. Rad. Okay, so at this meeting, win Fells, do you do anything else win? We talk about our wins, we talk about our failures.

Her dad created this whole new, where was this from? It's two clap. Everyone has to do two clap. And I think it's so cheesy, but I also love his cheesiness, so he's always like telling us all to do two claps for everybody to celebrate them. And then, we talk about, what are we implementing and what do we learn from those failures and what are we implementing next week to actually be on track?

And so we just check back in and ask how did it go? What did you notice? What came up for you? And it's really cool too to start to see if you have certain patterns that are showing up in one person or the other. And encourage them to like, what can we do to support you and.

Making a different choice. And will your kids participate in this They do every week. Oh, interesting. Yeah, they gladly do. And I don't know if it's 'cause the snacks are involved or the activities involved or if they just, I love it. I don't know. Yeah, I dunno if I could get mine to participate, honestly.

Ice cream helps. She says, have you been doing this forever? No, we've only been doing it for a few months now, but it is Oh, okay. It's been pretty phenomenal. Like I've noticed that it helps us to not feel like we're growing apart. It's like no matter where life takes us, we come back to this moment to reevaluate and check in and to feel supported.

And that's what I've noticed. There's a major feeling of everyone in the family feels supported and so no matter what direction they're going and then we just talk about schedules and get on the same page so we can support each other throughout the week. Oh, that's cool. So yeah, it helps.

'Cause your husband works. But here in Utah, we say up north. Yeah. When I first moved here, I was like, what the hell are these people talking about? Up north. So there's Northern Utah. We live in the very bottom corner of Utah. Yep. But so your husband works up north? Yeah. He does travels during the week and then travel.

Yeah. Then you're here. Yep. Which do you like that? It was really hard for a while there 'cause we, most of our marriage, we were together all the time. But I've actually come to love it and we are also in the process of shifting it where he's getting another place up there. So we'll be traveling back and forth.

Hey, together. Can I just throw this out there? Yeah. My parents' house is for she and Timberlakes. Oh, seriously? They have their house on the market. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I should take a look. I just thought I would throw that out there. They have their house for sale. Oh, that's really cool.

Yeah, I'll definitely take a look. They're planning on making St. George like they're permanent residence. Oh, wow. They sold their house in Wyoming and immediately put their house on the market in Hebrew too. Oh, I love it. Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. And we'll just throwing it out there.

Oh, I'll take a look. It's a little, it's like cute little a-frame. Oh, that's cute. Has a great view of the lake up there. Oh, I bet. That's so pretty up there. Yeah, there's some forts in the trees. What else? What else do I like about it? Oh, I love it. Yeah, so anyways. If you're looking for a four bedroom, I'll just keep going.

You might as well just pull it up on the screen. It's got great aerial photos. I'll help 'em sell it for a commission. That would be awesome. I wish. I know a real estate agent. Yes. I'll just take 1%. I'll take half a percent. That's a lot of money. Yeah. Bill, thank you so much for being here.

Where can we reach out to you? The best place is definitely through Instagram. You're telling me now, techno TikTok is where I should be. No, I've told you forever. I know. Remember when I was telling you should do funny financial talks from your hot tub? That's right. I forgot about that.

I'm being challenged to get on TikTok and she's been challenging me for five years now. Yeah, I don't even know. Literally. Yeah, Instagram, Facebook for sure. It's easy to find me under car. And yeah, I also have my website, carman.com okay. We'll have her linked up in the show notes, but thank you for your time today.

Yeah, thanks for coming back on it was so fun to be able to talk with you. I like how I propositioned this. I was like, Hey, do you wanna come back on my podcast? 'cause people actually listen to it now. You did such a good job at the beginning too. So it's so fun. I bet people still listen to all the other ones too.

Like they go deep, the deep episodes, people deep dive. I know a lot of people go back and listen to my episode hungover 'cause I have it specifically linked up places, but that's the one where I was eight weeks sober and I come out of the closet. 'Cause I was afraid everyone hated me.

But that was like episode 19 and I think you were episode. Were you one, two or three? You were one of those. One of those, yeah. Yeah. You're one of those very first ones. That's so cool. Yeah. Thanks for having me again. This is so fun. No, I'll harass you often. We'll get you on lots because then you'll also have great clips, for your own social media.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah. And May and next time I'll be on TikTok. Maybe we don't know, maybe. Awesome. Thank you so much today. Oh my gosh. Thank you for your time today and thanks for coming on the Samantha Parker Show. Thank you.