PART 3: People To Watch In 2026! Kailey Graziano

Empowered Growth and Bold Moves: The Journey of Kailey Graziano

In this episode of the Samantha Parker Show, Samantha Parker engages in a captivating conversation with Kailey Graziano, owner of KEYA Salon and a real estate agent with Be At Home Utah. They discuss a myriad of topics ranging from their experiences with AI like ChatGPT, to Kailey's bold expansion plans for her salon. Kaylee shares insights about the challenges and rewards of running an organic and biodynamic salon, the significance of being a business owner who makes brave decisions, and the emotional and logistical complexities of selling her house to finance her new ventures. This episode also delves into personal reflections on motherhood, managing imposter syndrome, and the need to balance ambitious career goals with being present for family. Join them as they share personal anecdotes, industry insights, and their aspirations for a successful future.

00:00 Introduction and ChatGPT Discussion
00:46 People to Watch in 2026: Kaylee Graziano
02:19 The Story Behind KEYA Salon
03:30 Organic and Biodynamic Products at KEYA
07:46 Content Creation and Social Media Goals
09:09 Kaylee's Real Estate Ventures
13:34 Expanding KEYA Salon
18:53 Personal Growth and Future Plans
22:09 Living in the Moment
23:26 Embracing Change and Overcoming Fear
25:18 Sobriety and Personal Growth
25:39 Parenting Challenges and Reflections
39:02 Balancing Career and Family
42:05 Looking Forward to 2026

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Transcript

Hey guys. Welcome back to the Samantha Parker show.

This is my special series that I put together. Well, me and chat. Do you call her chat, GBT something? Yeah, I, well, I just call her chat, like chat, but she's a she. She's a she. Yeah. I think if it was like a he, I don't know why. Oh, interesting. It feels male-ish to me. Do you use voice on yours? Okay. So I was, but it was so glitchy.

Does yours work? No, I don't use voice. I like to read things. Yeah. Well I was like talking to it. 'cause I went to this conference and they were like, you gotta talk to it and it'll really pick you up on you. It's true. Yeah. But I like can't get it to work. It's above my skill level. Have you busted into the Akashic record?

What? Okay, coming soon, let's say, let's go to pit in that. So this is my people to watch in 2026, and I knew that I had to invite Kaylee Graziano on who's the owner of Kia Salon? Kia Kea. I know. That's okay. That's okay. I, I should have corrected it before we started. Yeah. Well, it's. KEYA Uhhuh.

So I just wanna sound it out. Yeah. Even though I get my hair cut there, so like I should know this. That's okay. I'm like, it has a turtle on it. It's just organic. Yeah. So ke is like an indigenous word for turtle. Yeah, that's what you were telling me. Uhhuh And the turtle represents grandmother Earth.

That's really cool. So Kea, I believe is how it's pronounced, but I actually could be wrong. Maybe it, it could be Kia. Maybe it is Kia. Well in my American brain it's Kia. 'cause it's an E. You know we are in America. Whoop. I love how you just rolled your eyes when you said it too. Oh, I didn't mean to, sorry.

RBF. So I same. My daughter's always are you mad? She's you just do this thing with your face. And I said, do you need to stop making comments about my damn face? You do this thing with your face. Yeah. I was like, my, this is my face. That's funny. But anyways, I want you. To have you on this series that we've just dropped in January, and it's all about people to watch in 2026.

And the reason why I wanted you to be that person is because you're doing something really, really big. And as a business owner, I feel like it's really, really brave. My imposter syndrome is at an all time high. Is it? Yeah. That's. Absolutely. Especially when things, yeah, when you say things like that. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Do you not realize how big it is, what you're doing? I'm just here, I'm just, I'm just here for a good time. I told you now, it is exciting, but I told you it was big when you were cutting my hair. I know. We had chills. I was like, this is really, really big. Yeah. Okay. So you own the salon, you're also a real estate agent, just for background for people.

Yep. What agency do you work with? I'm with be at Home Utah. So just like a local. Brokerage. It's so cute too. You guys have great brand. It is cute. And you know what's nice is I, well, I love Megan. She's like the associate broker the broker's wife. So I don't, I, I just consider her my broker, but the office is next door to my salon and it just feels really family, yeah. So Kaylee's doing something really cool. Okay, so you have your salon, which you actually bought it from someone you came in, you remodeled it. The vibe in there is nuts. I tell you that every time when you're washing my hair, I'm like, why is it so nice in here?

Yeah. Just aesthetically. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I did, I bought, so it was the salon previously. I bought it, but I didn't really buy, like we reinvented everything. Oh yeah. So like new business, new brands, new team, like literally everybody went and started their own other salon, which we were expecting.

So yeah, like I did. I bought a salon, but I think it was more that I wanted the space, so I was just like, okay, well don't lease it to anybody else because I want the space. You are like, it's mine. Yeah. Yeah. I felt really called to that space. Yeah. And we've done some, well, you, well, first off, let's back up.

I'm always like context, because we know. I'm like, no one listening knows. Yep. You guys carry the product away, Uhhuh, which is, it's all organic. Yeah, it's from Italy, so it's from a little farm in Bologna which is. Kind of like, Florence area, like Tuscany area. But not only is it organic, it's actually biodynamic.

And what does that mean? I, yeah, I always want people to understand that because it's like a next level organic. So to become a biodynamic farm or biodynamic certified, it's actually a 10 year organic process. Oh. They harvest with the lunar cycle. So all the ingredients are at like a peak. Performance so it's less waste and more impact.

They also don't do any heavy tilling on the soil. So everything is hand tilled. They have donkeys, they have bees. What, so it's, so the ecosystem in the soil remains like a healthy ecosystem. So it's pretty cool 'cause it's not only organic, it's biodynamic. We have people call all the time. And I've even had to correct some of our stylists, like they'll use the word natural and I always say it's not nuts and berries.

Right? Yeah. There's definitely chemical components that make it work. But we can do everything that any other salon can do. We just do it in a more conscious, organic way. Oh yeah. Well you just made that really sexy. Well, thanks. And but it matters not just for the client experience like such as yourself, but I think for me.

I would say, client experience is a priority, but it's also this, the experience of the stylist, like most salons are so toxic that longevity and health of stylist is really horrific, like really high cancer rate. Lots of hormone disruptors, lots of like feminine, like reproductive issues. Oh, I didn't know that.

So by doing more or by being organic, it's really helping our staff out quite a bit too. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And obviously the earth like that matters also, but Well, yeah. Longevity and career and health and life is pretty big. Oh, what I like about the products is like they're heavy in your hand.

Does that sound funny? Oh yeah. 'cause it's all glass. Yeah. It's like glass and you're holding it and you can just get that vibe where it feels very grounded. And I'm like, this is a really nice product. It's such a beautiful brand. Yeah. Oh yeah. We love, we love having a way in there. It's a costly brand for us as a salon.

Like the product, like the color is like almost. Three times the price as other brands, but the packaging is beautiful. It's 99% gla plastic free. Yes. Which is pretty cool. So we shot some content with oa. Remember they flew out here? Yeah, you set that up really beautifully. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah, they flew to Utah and we did that big shoot in Snow Canyon and we got to film the behind the scenes videos.

Yeah. Which I think turned out really good, by the way. I might be biased, but they were good. No, I thought they were awesome. They were like really consumer friendly. Yeah. I was like, and I loved that. These are so fun. And the shoot was so fun too. It was so pretty out there. That's so gorgeous. Yeah, and it was fun because the team is like from all these like big, like hoity-toity areas, everybody's coming from like Chicago and New York and London and all the Paris.

Somebody flew in from Paris. And so coming to Little St. George, Utah, like at first they were like, where are we? But then the farther they got acclimated, they were like, wow, everybody's really nice here. Oh, they loved it. This is so interesting. Yeah, I know. I was friends with the makeup artists, like we've been, well, now we're Instagram friends, or at least I think we're friends.

I'm like, Hey girl, she's great. Yeah. But I'm like, she was very humble. I'm looking everybody. Yeah, I was looking through her feed afterwards and I was showing Cindy. I was like, dude, she was just with the Kardashians. Yeah. Yeah. They all, like even when they left, like the next day, two days later maybe, I talked to Peter and I was like, Hey, did you have a chance to like decompress a little bit?

And he's oh, not really. No. I was just doing Lindsay Lohan's hair yesterday. Kate Hudson. I know Kate Hudson like the next day. I know he called me and asked me for something and I sent it to him. They didn't text back and I was like, oh, he's probably busy with Kate Hudson Uhhuh. You're not wrong. But he's so humble.

They're all so great. Yeah, it was fun. It was a cool experience for us. Yeah know. It was fun. I think it was a cool experience for them too. Just like small town Utah isn't normally on their radar, yeah. So I appreciated that invite and being able to do that content. That was great. Oh, of course. No, that was fun.

That was so random too. I was like, Hey, you should, you should, you should do this. We need a videographer. It was funny 'cause I tried to turn it down too. Oh, you did? Yeah. I didn't pick up on that. Oh. I was like, well, I don't think we're the people for you. Oh yeah. Yeah. I guess so. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You did. Because I was confused. And then I was like, oh wait, we're totally the people for this. Yeah. Content creation. Yeah. No, you did good. You did great. Well, sometimes people want like full scale video and I'm like, well, we're making content. Yeah. Which is different than a feature film. I thought it was perfect because the whole point of it was to bring the salon into content creation and like an editorial shoot, you should post some of that.

Absolutely should. Speaking of content creation, I'm really bad at Instagram. Goals 2026 goals. Sam, you're on that. Put it on, put it on your thing. Your feed on my what? I don't even post it as a reel. How about that? Yeah, I, I should because I should. We've got so much good content of your salon. I know.

And it is just such a vibe in there. Yeah, you're well, you're the vibe. That's really you. No, it's just I'm a hot you guys. I'm a hot mess. Oh, I am too. Don't worry. It's fine. But you know what I will say, actually, I think. Okay, this is gonna sound like a knock on Utah, but I think it's refreshing to be super human and super real in this state where people's like beauty standards and like desire for perfection is outrageous.

And so I think when you're a little bit of a hot mess that people are like, oh, that's interesting. Well, I feel like you're a hot mess, but like in a good way, yeah. But I think we're all trying our best. But I think when you're not I think when you can just be authentic, it's.

Kind of refreshing. And that's true. I shouldn't really think of it as a hot mess. I should be like, I'm just being me. I always being me because I'm a boss ass bitch. But then I've also got kids and just animals. Yeah, yeah. The creatures. All the living things. Yes. Uhhuh. Okay. So why you're making my list though?

Okay. Because I was so moved. Well, I've been excited for you anyways. I knew about it before, but the other day I was like, oh my God, Kaylee, this is big. Okay, so you have your house on the market. Yep. And hopefully when you're listening to this podcast, we're gonna manifest that it's sold. Sold and closed.

Yeah. Yeah. It's been on for six days. Six whole days. Six whole days, right. What's the, what's the date today? We put it on 12. 12. It's the 19th. What is that math? Yeah, seven days. Seven days. Yeah. Yeah. A whole week. Yep. I have to tell you, I was scrolling TikTok last night and I saw your house on TikTok three times.

I love that. I am not even on TikTok. It's doing I would say local viral people love it. Yeah. It's a cool house. And it's making, I told my husband this morning, I'm like, well, maybe we should move back in. 'cause people are really liking it and it makes me feel, it's like, it's like I want it back. I want it back.

It's like when you go to the store and like the shelf is like all the way back. You're like, oh, that must be good. Oh, I want that. Everybody. Yeah. Yeah. And they're just continuing it. Yeah. No, but I thought that was cool. I'm like, Hey, that's my friend's house. Oh, I love that. I get excited about stuff like that.

Thank you. I'm, I know them. That's my girl. Thank you. I never went to your house. I really wish it. Well, I should just go for it. Yeah, let's go through this. Yeah, let's all go. Yeah. We should have done the podcast there, but I sent it to a couple of my real estate friends and my one was like, let's get you in this house.

And I'm like, dude, I love my house in Bloomington Love. I love your house, but I love my house. I love Bloomington. Bloomington's a great neighborhood. Yeah, you've got those old trees in Bloomington and that's really hard to find. Oh, I love it. I know. Our tree in the front yard is so big and I'm like, you're so pretty.

Look at you. Yeah, just talk nicely to him. We also have a grapevine that covers our whole wall. A grape vine. Yeah. We have grapes. We grow grapes. That covers the whole I. Okay. I need actually side note, I need help because the house we are living in now has grapes and I don't know what to do. Well, you don't have to.

Is it growing? I think so. But are they winterized? Am I supposed to cut them down for the winter? You should cut it back and it should just be the vine. Should I do that now? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Definitely. Okay. We'll just, I would say fall cleanup, but we don't have to do that until like January.

'cause we live in the desert. Yeah. Okay. My husband will do it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then you can see the structure underneath we need to fix ours a little. 'cause I think it got heavy this year. Hmm. Good. Yeah. That's an abundant crop. We have a really cool yard. Oh, I love that now. Bloomington's great.

Yeah. We have Peachtree. Two apple trees, two pair pomegranate. We have blackberries that come up. Cow. Then we have our grapes. Do you a cow? Cow? No, we don't have enough room for a cow. I would have a cow, a mini cow, get a mini cow. We had chickens and my husband was remodeling our coop and move them.

Moved them over to my cousin's and Okay, that's where they still are. Husband, did you hear that? But I do, I do love our house. We have garden boxes. Fun. Yeah. I love that. Let's get, I know this summer I was in a weird, like mentally I was, we had a lot of family stuff going and I didn't get to grow anything.

Yeah. So I'm hoping next year, 'cause you have to have that like attention. I think, I think that is next year's priority is like integration and grounding in, I think this year was like a really shifting pivotal time for everybody. Yeah. Brought up lots of chaos, lots of change, and yeah. This coming year.

But it's all for the good. But I think, but I think it's preparing us for this next year when we can really like, yeah, be in our crop. Oh, should I put that on a graphic? Yeah. It's be in our crop. Being in our crop. You could take that anywhere you want. I know what that means. I don't know.

That's a mess. You, it must cute. It was so cute. Oh, okay. So your house is on the market. It's for sell because you needed to come up with a lot of capital and this is where I'm like, this is your girl to watch someone who's willing to do that. Is willing to do really big things, yeah. I think I'm a gambling girl.

I was thinking about that. Like I used to play a lot of Texas, Holden, and a lot of poker. Oh. I literally think I just, because I find myself in these situations where I'm just like high risk and I'm like, what am I doing? You have a high risk. Tolerance. I am building it more and more. Yeah. I would say. The people who are willing to risk it for the biscuit.

Yeah. Does that age me? You do it for the biscuit. Yeah. You're like, sure. Whatever. Let biscuit. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that Yeah. I, I move on quietly. But when you're willing to risk it, really, really big things come out of that. Yeah. And you might have some really you might hit a really real low. Yeah, it's a reality.

Uhhuh, you just don't know. But the majority of the time you're willing, willing and able to take that low and turn it into something awesome. I think when you can surrender into it, right, and like trust that it's okay, but it's a constant Remi, like it's a constant awareness because I will spiral and I'll be, I said to you actually, Sam, I was like, I don't know, I might be living in a cardboard box soon.

And you were so funny. I don't know if you remember this, but it was a funny line. You're like, don't be so dramatic, Kaylee. You have a car. Say that. Yeah. I was like, that's awfully dramatic. You have a car. I told a few people that I'm like, that was funny. She's right. Like she's not wrong. I do have a vehicle.

And then I think I said, or some friends who can sleep on their couches. Yeah. We'll just climb our way in. Yeah. But you needed to raise some capital because you are expanding in a really, really big way. Yeah. Yeah. It's been funny, just a little backstory, of the last couple months.

So we do have a big expansion that we're anticipating that's coming like beginning of 27. Yeah. And just for you guys listening, she's under contract, so we can't say where or when, but essentially like you're taking your salon and duplicating it somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. But my salon space now, it's pretty small.

It's six chairs, it's 900 square feet. It's not very big at all. But we do have, well, I just hired on three more girls yesterday. Ooh. But before that, we've had 17 of us in this tiny little space, and so everybody's part-time, but we were kind of like maxed out. But with the new space coming, I've been calling in okay, I need a temporary spot.

I need something in between where I can hire more people, train more people, cultivate people in the culture and just get them like familiar with our ecosystem, of Kaya. Because it is a vibe. It really is. I. It's not, we're not a pretentious salon, but everything you're saying hardcore, you're not just trying to fill the chairs.

You're like, Hey, you have to fit into this company culture. Yeah. Like I hire for heart. I always say I hire for heart more than talent because I'm a firm believer you can always help grow talent. Well, almost always. Yeah. But it's a little harder to like, help evolve a heart, so I try to hire for kindness.

Anyways, so I was calling this in like a secondary space. And then in between we were looking around town like casually, nothing was quite hitting. And it was like, gosh, I don't even know, maybe six weeks ago, I feel like it was really recent. A friend of mine who he owns the businesses that are in two of the suites across from us in our current location, he calls me one random Monday and he's Hey Kaylee, we need to consolidate our business.

'Cause he has a, they have a few things going on. Do you want one of the spaces across the hall? And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. So unexpectedly this big space came into our reality. So now we have, we have nine additional chairs. We'll have 12. I'm, I just need to order three more. We're just playing this game of monopoly, like moving things around right now.

So that'll give us 18 chairs, which is incredible. And then everybody's in the same house, which I love. Because then we can really integrate the team and the culture before launching. Yeah. I was like, so that's not her second location though. That's just expansion of the first. But you're gonna have, it's your second one now.

Yeah. It's like temp. It's this weird in between you're gonna have a very bougie second space. Something that St. George hasn't seen before. 'cause it's going somewhere that people are freaking out that's even coming here. Yeah. How's that? Was that like cryptic enough? Yeah, it was great.

Yeah. Yeah, before we started she's I'm not allowed to save because of the contract, dah, dah, duh. Yeah. We have to be careful. 'cause until I hit some benchmarks, like then I like are financial benchmarks. It's financial. It's literally why I'm selling my house. So we had, I, we've had a really great year, year in real estate and I'm so grateful for that.

But I say all that time would like. God money comes and money goes so quick. Because of all the growth and the movement and the risks that we're taking, it's like we've had a great year, but it's all, I can't help help but feel. It's to help us like have the fuel and the momentum to build the machine that's coming.

Ooh. Do you know what I mean? I do. Did I paint that? Yeah. Accurately. Yeah, we have, and they, the developers did renegotiate some of those timeframes with me a couple days ago. 'cause I haven't even told you this, but I almost said no. You did. Yeah. It was like on Monday I went into the salon so dramatic.

And I was like, you guys, I think I'm gonna say, I think I'm gonna say F no. Like I think I'm gonna say F. No. So this whole idea, because the stress and the anxiety of hitting these timeframes and having to sell my house by a certain time in this market when it's just a little unpredictable right now. It wasn't feeling right and it was giving me this anxiety that I don't do well.

I, I can't be productive if I feel like there's this unnecessary pressure put on me. I just can't. I I, I do what I want, when I want how I want, and so when it's pressure that doesn't feel valid and accurate and right, it really messes my flow. So it was funny because I, I told every, I came in so dramatic and I told everybody, you guys, I'm saying no.

I'm saying no. Are you gonna hate me if I say no? Is everybody mad? And then within two hours I had a missed call from like the head of this group that I've not yet spoken to on the phone. We've just had really like un unpersonalized emails back and forth, and he was like, Hey, what do we need to get do to get this lease signed?

And I was like. Oh, well we need to push some timeframes back. Yeah. We need to readjust this. So that was really nice because then we got to know each other a little more personally. So it felt a little more human to human. Yeah. Than it has been. And he's not just seeing it as like another number. He is I wanna see them win.

Yeah. Like I, yeah, and I'm so grateful for that because like we are ultimately at this point, like we are a mom and pop and we're up against these like really big companies, and I'm like, we are just not that yet. We're other local cool spots going on there too? There are some other, yeah, I think, did you talk, I connected you with one of 'em.

You did? Yeah. And we, and I did. Did you talk to him? No, not yet. But we've connected and I'm like, I would love that pin in this. We're gonna get together soon, but let's like get through the next few weeks. I think so. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm really excited. I do feel, again, like imposter syndrome fully, like I just get really weird and I'm like, am I okay?

Everybody tell me I'm okay, which is annoying. I annoy myself, but it's, well, I have some big scary things coming up. Oh, tell me. They're not as big as this, so I'm not house on the market. So pretty soon you'll just be listening to the radio and you'll hear me. Oh, like on a regular basis for a few months.

Yeah. Cool. Can you talk about it? It's still, well, I'll have it finalized today. Okay. So me and you need to have a follow up January podcast. Okay. Okay, fine. Yeah. But I'm really, really, I'm I'm flipping out excited about it. Like I can't even sleep. I'm so excited. What's the topic? It's gonna be, well, they're gonna push like health and wellness and sobriety.

Okay. And, okay. I love that for you. I'm shocked and I'm like, okay, God, is this what you want from me? Yeah. Yeah. But it's be, you've got purpose. It's really cool. Yeah. But then also, and these are just small, little local things, Uhhuh, like you're putting yourself out there and where people are like, oh, look at her.

She just thinks she's so cool. You know what, those small little locals, St. George is a cool place. It is. It's so cool. Yeah. But yeah, so I get really, really excited and then I'm like, what if people are listening and they're like, I hate this bitch. And I'm like, well, I guess that's none of my business.

Yeah. Like I, I don't know. I feel like people who assume Ill intention, I'm kind of like, well then where's your heart? I know takes one to no one and I really, as I'm telling you this, I'm like, wait, like I feel like that's 2025 Sam and I just don't really give a fuck. It's okay though. It takes a while to get it out.

Yeah. Right. It's like I, I get that it's like you, there's still dirt to dig out of drawers and stuff that we haven't opened up yet. Yeah, and I've been making jokes about this, but I'm actually, I'm excited about this too, is. We just had a magazine come over to our home and photograph my family in the home.

Oh yeah, you told me about that. How did that go? And so we're gonna be on the cover of a magazine coming up. Wait, does your mom know yet? Yeah, I told my mom because she was like, why'd you get these new white boots? And I was like, well, okay. Oh, dang it. I was so excited to tell her. Okay, good. Well fun. But the thought was if she was gonna be excited to get the magazine.

She's so excited though. And then see you on it. It was supposed to be a surprise. It was. But she's really excited because she likes this magazine and then my. Stepped out of there and she's great, great. Did you hear that? And he's oh, I was just looking at that magazine. And I'm like, how funny.

It's just a local community magazine. I know. You should be so proud of yourself though, Sam, because you have taken like really big steps to, for yourself progress and look at the things flowing. Oh, I know. This morning I was like, it's amazing. Right? Okay. I was taking a shower, 'cause that's when I'm not a DD, you have to be like, just focused on your shower grounded.

Shower Grounded underwater. Yeah. And I'll be listening to a book or whatever, but you're just, you're there. And I was thinking, oh, I knew for years I needed to stop drinking and my life would change. But then I was like. You know how sometimes you go into that guilt and shame cycle?

Absolutely. Yeah. I immediately didn't and I was like, this was the timing Yeah. That it was supposed to be in. Yeah. Yeah. That's real, right? So there's this quote, I say it all the time, there's this German philosopher, and it's funny, I came across the book the other day and this was like probably 20 years ago that I read it and I was.

Just thumbing through it and seeing the things that I highlighted. And it's the pieces of your life resemble the pieces of the rough mosaic. You have to step away to see the beauty within. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like there is timing in every season and in every choice and in every moment.

That is so hard to see sometimes when you're like micro perspective in it. But when you can look back and see it. And then it helps to mitigate those like shame cycles, don't you think? Because you're like, oh, ooh, I love that you recreate the pattern of awareness. And Mosaic is really if you have it right in front of your face, you're like, what the hell is all this?

Yeah, yeah. And when you pull back, you're like, is that Jesus? Yeah. No, literally. Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool. Yeah. Life's wild. Good job. I'm proud of you. Oh, thanks. Yeah. I also had a moment too where I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm living in the moment. Where this is actually happening. I don't know how to describe that.

Have you ever felt that? Yeah, I think, I, I mean I have, but I think it's really cool when you can have awareness of it all the time. 'cause that's when you're super present, right? Is that what you mean? Yeah. It was just like, you know how. Like sometimes you'll look back and be like, I don't know, the first time you made love or whatever with your husband.

I don't know. That sounds weird 'cause I was drunk every time, but I'm just saying, I get it. Yeah. And you're like, oh wow. I didn't realize I was in that actual moment of yeah. Or even when you give birth and they Yeah. Push the kid. You push the kid out and they put it on your chest. Yeah. And you don't realize you.

In this crazy moment, you're actually living in that moment. Yeah. That's what I felt this morning. I was like, wait, I'm actually living in a moment where I'm gonna look back and be like, this was so big and everything changed for you. I love that. I don't know why I feel this way, but it's just, it's where I'm at and I think something No, I think that's really, that gives me, look, I have chills all over.

Like I, I do. No. Yeah. That's cool. Something insane is happening. I have chills all over right now. That's, I've healed my pants off. That's what I felt when you were talking, talking about moving and all this stuff. And I, I showed you, remember I was like, I don't know what's happening right now, but this is big.

No, it's exciting. It makes me emotional. Like I get like watery eyed. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people feeling that. Like I think we're moving into this phase where if you're doing the work and you're clearing the space and you're dropping the, the, the lower frequency things around you, all that's gonna come in is like good and great and beautiful.

But I think it's difficult and it's hard and. Also that other aspect of that same coin of like fear of making change, fear of losing, fear of not clearing that space. And I think it's gonna be really challenging if you're not acclimating to moving through things. Do you know what I mean? I do.

Yeah. I think it's gonna get hard for some people, to be honest. Yeah. But I think if you can. Give it so much gratitude and love and grace. I think it's gonna make it so easy and being like in the position that you are in and doing even like this radio show and like having your story, what a voice of inspiration and influence for people.

Right? It's. Yeah, that's huge. That's really awesome. I'll tell you about it after, and then we'll do a, like a, we'll have an announcement. I'm sure actually by the time you're listening this podcast, I'll have already announced what it is. Yeah, that's exciting. It's exciting. Oh, I'm actually really excited, but then sometimes I'm like, God, you're so cringe.

But I'm excited. No, you should be. I think you celebrate your wins, right? Oh yeah. Why do we have, why, why do we sometimes not though. Why do we feel like we can't be too big and too proud? I know I'm trying girl. I'm trying to like shove the ego down. I know. And I'm wait a minute. Ego's healthy too.

Right? As long as there's heart in there, like ego's not a bad thing. Yeah. Ugh. I'm, and the other thing too is I feel really good. So yesterday I had a really busy day, big day, lots of stuff. And a lot of times I come home at night, I'm just like, Ugh. And I was like, no. I felt so good. I packed.

We're going to Vegas after this. Oh, fun. Yeah. What for? I'm all looking at Cindy. We are going with one of our clients. We win injury law. Oh yeah. We're gonna go stay at the Cosmo. It's gonna be fun. Oh yeah. You were telling me about that. So fun. Yeah. But I was just like really happy that I felt so good.

Yeah. It's, it's really blown my mind how good I feel. You inspire me so much. Sobriety is a journey. And I'm not gonna get into my own story on that, but I'm constantly I just got, what would Sam do? I can say that on the podcast. My one friend was like, I was gonna go out last night.

And I was like, Samantha Parker wouldn't do this. She'd get up and Samantha Parker on Sunday morning. I was like, it's true dude, you guys, no, it's. So true. Yeah. We've been going through a lot of stress lately and I go through these cycles of both my mom's died of alcoholism. I think I've told you that like my mom and my stepmom, that's, that's like what their death was.

So for me, it's like whenever I do have a drink, not whenever, 'cause it's not every time, but I, it's easy for me to get to that shame cycle and I'm like, why am I doing this? You're gonna end up dead. Yeah. Like we're, whatever horrible mom, I'm gonna forget about my, whatever it is. And I wake, if I wake up like even slightly hungover, I'm like, that was so dumb.

We've, but, but it also is easy to make excuses to drink. Right? Like even yesterday, like we, I swung by the liquor store on the way home 'cause I called my husband and it's just we've just been going through so much. I'm like, should I get can I get a us a bottle of whiskey? So sorry. Oh, I, but this morning I was like, dude, girl, I'm care.

I'm like, maybe this morning I was like, maybe if I take a different way home so I'm not driving by the liquor store, maybe my temptation will lessen. Like maybe that one turn rather than going right, I should go left. It's actually true, and maybe consciously then I'm like, okay, that's one step. You have to change direction all of your habits.

Mine was like. Putting a wax strip on or ripping it off, to just feel something. No, but like I had to make that kind of change where it was that painful. Yeah. Where I just had to rip it off and do it. Yeah. But sometimes you can do cool things. Oh, that was an analogy that wasn't, yeah.

Sorry. You know how bad I get a wax every month and it hurts. Okay. It hurts. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Sorry. I was trying to be on. Have this beautiful analogy interesting about Poochie hair ripping it out of our bodies. That's how I felt, though. I had to, I had to rip alcohol out of my body. Yeah. No, it's a real thing.

But I do think so then I had to learn these habits the hard way, right? Yeah. I had to reprogram my entire life. Yeah. But I do for you, it's totally fine. Go have a drink of whiskey or have a glass of wine. But what I'm saying is, but where you've been, where you're like, I know my life is gonna be better once I stop.

I know that. Yeah, I know that. So what I'm saying for you though is maybe you could have been like, Hey, do you wanna go? Do you wanna go to the hot and cold punch tonight? Yeah. Something different. Yeah. In fact, I highly recommend going over to degree wellness that just, oh, I know they're not paying me, but they should be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I have pitch, you hear that? I have put so many people, I'm just staring it because I love it. Like I'm obsessed. Yeah. No, and it looks like a vibe. Like you and your husband went on, went on a date there the other night, like Saturday night. We should do that. We should do that.

You should definitely go on date night. We should do that. We shouldn't put this on the thing, but go on date night. It's a private room. Okay. And you're just, hot. Cold. You're a little Nike, okay. Okay. It's very bougie. Okay. Fun. And it's just a really good date night. Where is it? It's just right.

Well, we're kil It's, so it's across the parking lot. Okay. Okay. So it's in this like center you know where Village Baker is? Right here? Yeah. Yeah. It's right there. Okay. On the corner. Okay. Very. You get glass water bottles, you would love it. Okay. They have a, you have a little, fridge in your room and it has like glass water bottles and cold lavender towels.

They give you so many towels, robes. You can turn on Netflix, like they have a big TV or you can Bluetooth and just listen to your music. So is date night like a certain day that they do, or are you just saying date night, like for date night for us, okay. Got it. I didn't know if it was like a Thursday date night special.

No, no, not at all. Okay. It's just you just have a plus one. You have to pay for a plus one, okay. I did get a membership. Fun. I'm hooked. I love that. Yeah. But it's so nice. I love that the way that you've transferred your life transpired. Evolved, like is really beautiful to see. Yeah. But that's what we did on Friday night last week instead.

We would've, yeah. Probably gone out for drinks. Yeah. Dinner. Drink dinner. We've had at least four glasses of wine, been bloated, had that headache in the morning and gone through my shaming guilt cycle. Totally. Yeah. So it's just little things like that even. Yeah. 'cause if you're not wanting to go completely alcohol free, like I don't think everyone has to.

Right. But you can start being like, Hey, what if we. Went and tried something different. Yeah. What if we painted pottery? That sounds awful, I love painting pottery. W see, actually came outta kiln. I have my own kiln. I'm like the type of person, like if I'm gonna start a hobby, of course you do.

I'm like, fuck yeah, we're doing this hobby. But it's just like little, then I do it twice. Micro changes that are actually really macro. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, it's just like conscience. It's the steps, right? It's okay, turning again, turning left instead of, right. Yeah. Or go to a movie.

I used to take wine in my water bottle to movies, but. Yeah, don't do that. Just get the Diet Coke. I, you know what? I almost did it the other day, but I was like, no, I'm not gonna do that. Yeah. I was thinking back to how many times I've been like drunk, but not drunk in a good way at a movie where I just felt like I wanted to puke.

Mm. I'm like, God, what? I don't know, man. I know. Just pushing the limits. Yeah. I feel like sometimes though, I think I can relate to this May, maybe, maybe this is you, but kinda like an extreme personality again. If I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna fucking do it. I'm gonna do it better than you and hold my beer top.

Wait, when's your birthday Again? I know this, but I forgot. I wanted, this is in my notes. I know you're, she. You guys listening is she's tell me your birthday. Tell me your sign, and she'll tell you like all these really cool things. I love a straw so much. Yeah. 2.4. So I'm on the Pisces Cusp. Okay.

Fun. What's your moon? Do you know? No. Oh, we should look sometime. Have I done that for you? Have we looked at your chart? Yeah, we know, but I don't know. Does that make sense? Okay. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't ever remember. It's see, some people, it doesn't like stick, like for me, like the way some people turn to scriptures for grounding.

I turn to astrology, not because astrology is like my religion. Yeah. Like to me. I just think it's a language within the ultimate God or whatever you wanna say it. And it's a language that like lands well for me. Yeah. Like I can, it resonates. I love reading my scriptures, but I also will love reading a good energy.

Totally. All of it. Horoscope, maybe not even a horoscope, but I love like the daily energy and what's going on and. The moon and like the transits. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's like the devil's work. I don't think so at all. I think it's like my dad has said to me before don't forget about God, Kaylee.

And I'm like, well, God created it. You're like, actually this is, I feel like I'm actually giving him more respects because I'm like, God created all of it and he's an orderly God. He, she, I don't know I actually don't like to label that either, but god is orderly and I'm actually just like respecting one of the ways that we are coded and I'm trying to learn that language to like best understand my contract, yeah. And help others with theirs. Oh, that's beautifully said. Yeah. Plus there is something to be said for the energy of what's happening. Oh, totally. 'Cause you'll notice like a running theme through people. Absolutely. It's always collective. Yeah. And sometimes you'll see it very blatant. Yeah. I had a friend, she was like standing outside my office and I'm like, are you crying?

But then it was someone else was crying. Someone else. Yeah. And someone else. And I'm like, hold on. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I find myself sometimes, like when people come to me with their problems or whatever it might be, I like, I will, I will listen and I'll hold space, but then I am always like, I don't wanna ever sound dismissive, but sometimes I think I might because I'm like, oh.

You're not alone. You're not alone. Like everyone's going through it right now. And I think sometimes people like are jarred by that. 'cause they want be like the in their own. Oh no, no, I'm for me, but babe, everyone's doing it. That's why I think it's important that we share our stories, not so that we collectively trauma dump.

I agree. But so that you understand that there's nothing fucking wrong with you. You're not alone. You're not the only one wishing that you could throw the wine away. You know what I mean? I'm like totally. You're not the only one who is hates that they like. I'm just using alcohol 'cause it's what I know.

Yeah. Hates that they poison themselves, yeah. That's why I shared my story. 'cause I'm like, you're not the only one who still looks great on the outside, but Yeah. Well actually I look better now, but, and it does that, right? Yeah. My is real. Oh, actually I like my glow up Uhhuh. But you're not the only one who, everyone's oh, she's got it altogether.

But you're like, I fucking hate this. Yeah. Yeah, we're not alone. Like I think to walk a lonely path is really lonely. Yeah. Imagine isolating and all the things, you had your mom and your stepmom die. If like I lost my mom, it'd be great to know. You're like, Hey, I've been there. Here's some things.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Totally. Yeah. My mom's still doing great though. I love that. But she reads the magazine and she moved here recently. Yeah, they, Wednesday they closed on their last house. That sounds funny. They're selling off their houses and then they'll be here. This will be their home base now.

I love that. Yeah. That's special. It's, I am really loving it. Uhhuh. 'cause for a little while I was like, I don't know what's going on with me and my mom. I just had to, natural. She's got her own stuff. I don't know. I don't even know what it was. And now I'm like, oh, this is so cool. We can just have dinner together.

Yeah. And get to know each other as like person to person, not like mom, daughter dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 40. Yeah. And she's 60. I'm like, we're grown ass adults. Yeah. But also both like really big stages in life. 40 and 60. Like there are a lot of like big changes that happen in those. Yeah. Everyone says this.

As you get older, you realize your parents are people. And for a long time I was like, you guys ruined my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, wait a minute. It's easy to blame. Yeah. I'm like, eh. Okay. Rewrite. Yeah. Back up. Well, 'cause my kids told me that too. Wait, I have kids too. Oh, my kids are like, you ruined my life.

Totally natural. They're gonna feel that way. My son was, and then they'll have 30 something and they'll be like, wait, actually mom, maybe you didn't, I know my son was mad. This. Today 'cause it's the last day of school before Christmas break. And he's well I shouldn't have to go. And I was like, you're F-ing math says otherwise sir, get in the car.

And some reason he is laying on the couch. And then I am, my husband has the day off today. Okay. And I was like, Hey, I gotta get in the shower. Will you manage your son? Like I was just being a smart ass. And my husband's well it looks like you missed the bus. And I was like, I left this to you, i'm like, you have to wait. So did he not go. No, my husband drove him. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. I was like, he is going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my son, my oldest was trying to get outta school today too, but he's he's complaining. He, I think he's having some gro like growing pains, so his legs are really hurting. Oh, I do know that.

Do you remember that? And I gave ibuprofen 'cause I, and we don't do that too often, but I gave him, I'm like, you gotta go, you, you gotta go to school, bud. But anytime he has like any ailments, she was like, I don't want to, they're gonna be home for two and a half weeks. Alright. I'm like, you got one last hoorah before you're like two to three weeks, right?

Yeah. You'll be fine. I won't want have to entertain anything today. I got two and a weeks of this coming up. Yeah, that too. Mom has things. You, you gotta to go to the babysitter even though you're 14. Yeah. School. Yeah. I know. It's true. Anyways, where are your kids at again? They're what grades?

20. 20. Okay. So no grades. And 14. Okay. Okay. So he's in ninth grade. He's a freshman. Right. Okay. Yeah. Fun. And apparently he didn't pass math. This semester, but that's a conversation for another day. Oh, it's okay. I know things are hard. When I was in college, I finished college at 30 and for some reason I was like, I have to have A's in all my classes, and I did graduate with a 3.96 overachiever.

It's fucking cool. Yeah. I. But my friend all the time was like, I don't know why you're so strung out about this. And she's CS get degrees. And now looking back, I'm like, why didn't I just, I still would've given it my all because that's who I am. Yeah. But I think it would've been okay. Yeah. To just have a 3.9.

Yeah. A three point. Seven. No, but would it though? No. I don't know. I get that energy. When I was in cosmetology school, I got kicked out for 90 days. Oh you did? Yeah. Yeah. I was a bad, I was a naughty girl. I went, so I did homeschool. So I actually graduated cosmetology school before I graduated high school.

Yeah. I did that with a different trade. Yeah. So I was able to go to cosmetology school like full time, but I wasn't 18 at the time, and so I would just go party and Oh, we have a similar story. Do do the drugs and do the things, yeah. They were sending me to college my senior year and I was like, oh, fuck off.

Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I'm like, I know better than you. Yeah. My ad, my ego anyways, I got kicked out for 90 days, but when I came back there was one of the instructors she would like over stamp everybody like you're supposed to do, like for example, 25 perms or whatever to pass. And she, you would do one perm and she would give you like seven or eight stamps instead of one.

And I remember like smacking her hand one time 'cause I'm like, I am gonna earn every single one of those. Yes, I came back full force like after the 90 days. I was like, oh, I'll show them. That's my attitude all the time. I. On one of our other podcasts with the series, I was like, if you tell me to wear a nice dress, I'm gonna make sure I have the best dress.

If you, yeah. I don't know. It's a healthy thing, I think. Yeah. But it's not like I wanna see you win too. Yeah. But to me, I'm like, totally, let's step the bar up. We're here for a good time. You know what I mean? This is life and we're gonna do it well, and I think that's also part of those experiences of hitting hard places.

There is, there is like a psychology, I don't know if that's the right word, but it's like a, it's a very human thing to do, is to actually want to hit lows so you can get the high from climbing out of it. Oh, isn't that interesting? It is. Because it's like just the proving to yourself that you can, well, every movie and every book is written around the hero's journey.

Yeah, that's funny. And they all have exact same pattern. So the school that my kids are at, that's what they call everything is The Hero's Journey. I love that. Oh, you it look it up. Every book, every movie is written around. The hero's journey. And it's an exact predictable pattern. And that's why you love movies, right?

They'll be up high. Yeah. Like even think of Thor or something and then all of a sudden he's Fat Thor. Yeah. And then he gets a comeback and you're like, I fucking love Thor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a hero's journey, so I love that. Yeah. You look at people I know some people that have had everything handed to them.

Like one example, I have a client and her son-in-law is born into an extremely wealthy family. If I named the name, you'd be like, oh yeah, for sure. His mom, this is crazy. Random. So random. But if you think of hi, like the mom of the son-in-law of hers was born into a extremely wealthy family.

Has had everything given to her, hasn't had to earn pride, right? There's no empowerment that she really, hell has, because everything's been given to her. She calls him like every other day thinking that she's dying, like the chaos and the drama in her life and the amount of energy that she spends every month on like doctor's visits and all these things, it's.

So sad, but I think it's like there's something so powerful to go through the hero's journey, right? Yeah. And to be empowered and not be like spoonfed everything in your whole life. But there's so many people that it's so easy to give to your kids and want to see everybody succeed around you.

And so you help them to the point where you're poisoning them and then they don't have that pride. To be proud of yourself is such a huge thing. That's so true. Yeah. She needs like a project like orphans or something. Okay. So really you've got this coming up. Yep. What are you most excited for in 2026?

Or what's like the energy that you're feeling going into it? Because I can never pinpoint that, yeah. And, and what I, so I have three kids 11, 10, and then five. I think that I have been such a busy mom. I feel that, and I love that to a point, because I love that my kids get to see me like creating, and they see the struggle and they're a part of it.

And we talk to our kids about everything. Sometimes I'm like, was that too much? But, but I let them know Hey, this is our family business. This doesn't leave this table, but this is what's happening. Like these are the pieces that we're moving around because I want them to learn through it also.

But I think going into 2026, what I'm hoping for. Is to keep growing the salon business, to still have real estate. Like I, I just love helping people. So like hair in houses, I love the intimacy that both bring. I love to be of service and like in a really intimate setting, but what I'm hoping is I can find my grounding to be a little less chaotic and less.

Busy so I can be more present as a mom. Yeah. That gets me emotional. No. The other day I had the slot and I was like, I don't have time to be a mom. I know. That's so sad. Right? Yeah. Because speaking of these are the moments, like this is the moment, like I look at how quickly my kids are growing and I'm like, well, shit, what we gotta figure out?

And there's never gonna be a perfect scenario. There's there's not a real balance. I know balance is bullshit. Yeah. But. I wanna figure out how I can keep winning and keep moving towards my goals, but also I want to have these really like great moments. Totally like impactful with the kids, and it's probably just being honestly strategic.

I hate to say it that way, but being like, okay, I know on this day maybe it's Wednesday nights, you're gonna go do this. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like prioritizing. I was just talking to my husband about this. Two nights ago, because I feel like we've been playing Whack-a-Mole lately. Like you're just like hitting things to take care of whatever needs to be taken care of. And for me and my brain, I told them, I'm like, I need priority lists. Like I know all the things we need to do, all the projects, all the this, all the that. But I have to prioritize what I should be taking care of first.

Otherwise I get overwhelmed and my system almost like shuts down a bit and then I don't take care of any of it. So I think it's also yeah, delegating. Wednesday night doing this with the kids or whatever, but like prioritizing constantly. Yeah. So maybe it's just as simple as putting it in the calendar.

Yeah. But then part of me is well I don't wanna do that. That's I know it doesn't feel flow, it doesn't feel organic, but I get that. I think if you don't make the time for it, I just I just staying aware State night. Yeah. What's the difference? Yeah. Okay, we're doing it. Cheers. High fives.

Cheers. High fives good moms. Ha ha ha ha. Trying our best. That's the crazy thing is sometimes you don't realize how good you're doing. You're like, I could always be better. I, it's true. I, I think that's like a very well, and we have humble thing moms to compare ourselves too. Oh my god. Religious. And they're just hanging out like Chad wives, and then in your head you're like, should I do that?

And they're like crafting everything from a school, partying. Yeah. I have my own goals and I have my own. Yeah. Yeah. And not, and one is not more important than the other, but I think that's my goal for 2026 is to be able to integrate both, yeah. Not slow down my pace, but maybe be a little bit more intentional.

Because I think leading up until now, it has been a lot of like fire and frenzy and big bets and big gambles, and I am just wanting to ground it in a little more. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm excited to see that. Thanks. And I'm excited. To see your house sold, and I'm excited to see you break ground and I'm excited to just know you.

Thanks. Thanks for keeping Bob Bobbing. You know how many compliments I got on the Bob? Your bob is pretty good. Yeah, I see it. It's so damn good. I see it on like Instagram. I'm like, God, I did that. That's me. This is my Bob Queen. There's this lady I love to follow on Instagram. Oh, TikTok, I'm sure she's on Instagram, but it's TikTok.

And she goes, welcome back my Bob besties. Oh yeah, you told me about her hair styles. Yeah, I love her. That's fun. But anyways, thanks for your time this morning too. Thank you, Sarah. You're a busy lady. No, thank you. It was fun. Yeah. And thanks for being, someone. That I can really look up to this coming year.

Oh, likewise. That takes a lot of work, yeah, likewise. I just want you to know you're intentional. You're a really amazing person, and it's really cool that you're stepping out and doing this because it gives other people space to do it too. Thank you. So takes one to know one. Cheers. Yay.

Yeah. Cheers to 2026.