PART 4: People To Watch In 2026! Janet Z

Empowerment and Transformation: Janet Zitting’s Journey from Polygamy to Manifestation

In this episode of the Samantha Parker Show, Samantha introduces Janet Zitting as part of the 'People to Watch in 2026' series. Janet shares about her upbringing in a polygamous family within a high-demand religion. With 44 siblings and four mothers, Janet discusses the complexities and challenges of her early life. She explains her journey of breaking free from the cult-like environment at the age of 19, her steps into the real world, and how she came to embrace manifestation and mindset work. Janet now helps other women understand the power of shifting perspectives for personal transformation. They explore themes of empowerment, the role of mindset in changing one's life, and the importance of finding moments of joy and beauty in everyday life. Janet’s personal podcast and TikTok, both under 'Manifest More Magic,' aim to inspire others to live fulfilling lives by creating their own reality.

00:00 Introduction to the Samantha Parker Show
00:40 Impact Walks and Networking
01:40 Coffee Talk and Caffeine Habits
04:30 Introducing Janet Zitting
04:51 Growing Up in a Polygamous Family
06:39 Leaving the Religion and Self-Discovery
19:48 Life After Leaving: Career and Relationships
22:58 Realizing the Power of Choice
23:29 Discovering Manifestation
23:44 Personal Development Journey
24:44 Embracing Life Changes
26:17 TikTok and Sharing Stories
30:30 Manifestation Success Stories
35:54 Leaving Polygamy and Finding Freedom
39:08 Creating a Beautiful Life
44:09 Looking Forward to 2026

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Transcript

Hey guys. Welcome back to the Samantha Parker show. Today I have a guest and this is part of our 2026 series people to watch.

So I have curated, handpicked, and crafted. Well, I didn't really craft you, but um, I've crafted the episode and so these are people that I really admire and I know are doing really, really big things. And so. Janet, you fit into this so well. So welcome to the Samantha Parker Show. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

Yeah. Okay. We've only met once, well now twice, right? Mm-hmm. We haven't met outside of this, have we? No, we haven't. Just the impact walks. Yeah. So we do these walks here locally. They're called impact walks. And you came on one. Mm-hmm. Which was so cool. I have met insanely cool people on these walks. Yeah.

Even just on that one walk. It was, I felt so good when I left, 'cause I met the most amazing women. It's just one of those walks where I just. I felt better after leaving. It was such a good air, uh, space and energy that you created with the walks. Well, I, you know, obviously as business owners we have to network a lot.

Mm-hmm. And we have to go do things, but I'm kind of to this point where I'm like, I don't want to do that. You know, unless I really like, really like you. Like I would go to lunch with you, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't wanna go, like, be on point at these meetings and do these things. Mm-hmm.

But, you know, um. During the summer, I was like, but I, I wanna do something. I wanna create something where we can all come together. So I created the walks and it's been really cool, like, I guess the type of people that have shown up. Yeah. And I feel like even when you're walking, that's when you have more ideas flow.

Mm-hmm. Through. And you're, I feel like you're even able to have better conversation. Yeah. You came on the walk too, where we had it sponsored by Java Quest. Mm-hmm. And they brought coffees for everyone. Yeah. That was amazing. That was fun, huh? Mm-hmm. I am a big fan of walking and I'm a big fan of yapping and I'm a big fan of ice lattes, so, oh, the best.

Even if it's cold outside still. And ice coffee. Yeah. You know what I, I got for that? Well, my sister got it for me for Christmas last year. Um, as a frost buddy. You gotta, what's that? So it's basically just. Like a metal cup that you put your ice latte in. Okay. It's called a frost buddy. Uhhuh, get yourself one on Amazon.

I'm sure That is awesome. Yes. So I'm always walking around with my ice latte in my frost buddy. See, I take forever to drink my coffee. I love it. I really love it. But I am a slow sipper. Okay. You need one of these times. I do need one of these. Yeah. It keeps it insulated too. Yeah. That's great. I love that.

I started. Um, well, Dutch Bros is my crack of choice. Mm-hmm. I just get the cold brew, but I started asking them for like, just a sprinkle of ice and then you end up with more cold brew, but it's cold. I don't want a bunch of ice, you know? Yeah. I just got an espresso machine. Oh. Are you whipping up? I am in heaven right now.

Having, are whipp up lattes. I'm having so much fun. I discipline myself to only have one cup of day. One cup a day. Mm-hmm. So I normally have it in the afternoon, but in the morning I like, kinda want it. I'm like, no. I am waiting till the afternoon because when the afternoon comes and I already had my coffee, I get a bit sad.

I have to wait till the afternoon. So, well, we recently learned from one of our clients, you can have 500 milligrams of caffeine a day. That's insane. That's what I said. And you know what, it's, it's a doctor. It's Dr. Steve. We have to credit him. He is one of our clients. And he's like, no, for athletes, that's like, you know, or people who are active.

The optimal level is 500 milligrams of caffeine. I go, if I drink 500 milligrams of caffeine, I would like, I would pass out. Yeah. I would have a heart attack. I would have so much anxiety from that. Yeah. And you already said to me, he goes, well, you don't start there. Touche. So ever since that conversation I've been like.

F it. I am done with that mindset of having to control my caffeine intake. But is that black coffee or does it matter? The other day I was talking to my doctor and she said, for women, black coffee is really good for you, especially for your liver, for women. See, see what you know, it's, it's perfectly fine, right?

So drink, you should definitely be treating yourself to a morning and an afternoon espresso. That's all I'm saying. I think I need to start with morning. With it, maybe black and then east to like having a latte in the afternoon. Well, how many shots of espresso are you having? So I feel like you could really, probably three.

Okay. You could have, you could have an afternoon espresso probably. I'm just trying not to go crazy. You're like, shut up. I guess I'll just test it out. You're like, I'm over your fluids. Be quiet. I'm, I'll drink more caffeine. Um, I just, sometimes I think it's a mindset. Mm-hmm. And you're big into that too.

Yeah. You know. Right. Sometimes I just have to change my mind about things. And then I was like, you know, I'm only having like my one coffee a day and then I have two Diet Cokes. At least it's not pounding Red Bulls. Well that, yeah, exactly. Okay, so let me introduce you. I have a really good intro wrote up, so I'm gonna read it, which I usually don't, but I just really like it.

Okay, so today's guest is Janet Zitting. I, I got it. Right, right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm all, sometimes people are like, no, it's pronounced ting, or, you never know exiting. But if you want, you could even say Janet Z like, whatever. Ooh, that's sexy. Okay, so today's guest is Janet Z, and her story is one that stops you in your tracks.

So Janet grew up in a polygamous family, which isn't unheard of for where I live in St. George, Utah. Mm-hmm. I've got some questions here. Um, with 44 siblings inside a high demand religion, and I'm assuming that's the FLDS religion? No, it's a, it's a cutoff from that. Oh, yeah. What is it? So I, they call it the work, but the religion?

Yes. Is it a cult? Yes. It's a cult. They wouldn't say it's a cult. They wouldn't say that. I, I usually call it high demand religion, but yet it's all in all, it's a cult. So it used to be all one religion. But when Warren, Jeffs, when his dad passed away and Warren Jeffs came into power, that's when the religion split.

Oh, okay. So, so one went one way, one went the other way. Yeah. So con context for people who aren't familiar, I feel like anyone you talk to in St. George is gonna know that name. Yeah. Right. Um, so Warren, Jeffs, his dad was originally the head of the FLDS church. Yes. Which is that polygamous branch off of the Mormon church.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they're crazy. They live in a community not too far from here. I would, well, I shouldn't say they're crazy. They're lovely people. A lot of them are lovely people, and then a lot of them are crazy, but it's also a cult. Yeah, it's definitely a cult. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so you're in an offshoot.

Mm-hmm. Of this 44 siblings. How many moms did you have? Four. Four? Mm-hmm. Oh my god. That's like 10 kids per mom. Yeah. My mom had 12. I'm her 11th. What kid? Yeah, my second mom had 13. Oh my gosh. Then the other two had 10. They only, and I'm like, I had one baby and I'm like. Girl. Like how did, how did they have so many kids?

Could you imagine just being pregnant for that long too? No, I'm still breastfeeding, but even then I'm like, my baby's one uhhuh. And even then I'm like, I can't imagine doing this for years, years and years. Like over a decade. Well, yeah. So 10, you know, so let's take 10. She, my mom had a baby pretty much every two years.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's so bad for your body. Yeah. Oh, okay. So anyways, um, you grew up in a high demand religion that shaped every part of your identity, beliefs, and future. Leaving that world wasn't just a lifestyle change, it was the beginning of a deep self-development journey. And I know a lot of people come outta there and they have.

To like figure out all kinds of things about life. Mm-hmm. Plus you grow up just wild. But I think what's really cool though is you've taken it and now you do a manifestation of mindset and you help women understand how one shift in perspective can change the entire trajectory of their lives. Which I love, and this is exactly why I think you're someone to watch in 2026.

Thank you. Well then you also have your own podcast. I do have my own Path podcast. It feels like such a baby podcast. 'cause honestly, I just hit record on my phone. Oh. And just. As when I usually have inspiration come through, it's when I'm in the car or just after the gym or anything like that, and I, I have to press record then or it's just not going to happen.

Do you find it like very therapeutic too? Yeah. Extremely. Yeah. Yeah. I recorded some podcast episodes that were about my. My ex and my daughter's dad. Um, and I hadn't really ever talked about it for years, you know? Mm-hmm. I mean, everyone who knows me knows that what I went through and I was like, this will be so great just to like lay it all out there.

Mm-hmm. Never said his name or anything, but even just doing that mm-hmm. I was like, this is my story and I get to tell it. Right. It was so amazing. Did, did you feel like a huge weight lifted off of you just owning? Absolutely. Owning that? Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Um, I love that. And it's not, you can't even find it.

It was like a different podcast that I had, you know, it was like a, a baby podcast and I was just like, record send. And it, it just feels so good getting that out. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's reminded me of me just leaving this religion because a lot of my life it's like, hush, don't talk about things, stay hidden, stay, keep things kept, because growing up I grew up in Salt Lake.

Oh, you didn't even grow up in that area? No. Yeah, my husband kind of grew up in that area, so. Were you just living in, where'd you live in Salt Lake, Riverton. You're just living in a normal city? Yeah, I was in Riverton, Utah. What? We all grew up in one house, so eventually like the house was, they added onto the house and Yeah, like there was one point in my childhood where me, there were 16 girls in one bedroom.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was a big bedroom. Lot of bunk beds. A bathroom, a vanity that it wasn't too long with 16 of us in there. It was when they were working on other parts of the house. But I would say for most of my childhood, it was me and seven of my other sisters in one room. What? Yeah. That's wild. And for me that was just normal growing up.

Yeah. And then you guys, typically, you're probably homeschooled, right? Mm-hmm. And then you probably attended a church with just other people like you, so you didn't Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, I was actually the last one to be homeschooled. All of my siblings under me went, started going to school. Oh.

After. 'cause a lot, my older sisters, they were getting married and they, a lot of them helped raise the kids. Mm-hmm. So when they were off getting married, it was too much work to homeschool the kids. I mean, there were so many kids. So that's when the kids started going to school and my siblings were going to three different schools.

Was it that type of, um, hush hush, like h words, was it kind of that environment where it was like hush hush, she didn't want people to know that you were living polygamy? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so. Especially when I was really little because my parents had the risk of going to prison. Mm-hmm. So I remember even as a little girl, I would hear a police siren and have, and like.

Almost have a panic attack, worried that they were coming to my house, which a little kid shouldn't have to feel that way. It's crazy how they even instilled that into us. And we, like even in the front yard, if a car was coming down our road, we had to hurry and run in the house so they wouldn't see us.

But. All of our neighbors knew what we were. Well, it's obvious. Yeah. It's obvious. We were rambunctious. We were mm-hmm. Crazy kids. And with what we were wearing too. 'cause when I was little, we did wear dresses that were, oh, the dresses very similar to Warren. Jeff's. Yeah. Did you do the hair? No. You didn't do the fluffy?

Mm-hmm. What is that? I don't even know. I, I wouldn't, I don't know either. Fluffy fishtail French, buried with a, I mean, there's a rumor that the higher they had it, the closer they are to heaven. I don't know how. True that is, I don't know, I, I should, I had some friends who were in that religion and have left and I should ask them about that.

Yeah. The people I know that were in that were, you know, they said they didn't really know why they did their hair like that, but I think there were a lot of things that they had that had to do that they didn't know why they were doing, they just had to do it. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. There's a lot of different polygamous sex, and then the one that I was from, they call it the work.

I like to call it like. They, it's the OG version of how Mormonism was when it first began. Okay. That's what they believe. Yeah. So they very much believe in Joseph Smith. Okay. What, what's your take on that? I mean, I know. How real do you want me to get? Well, okay, this is my question really for you Right. Is since leaving mm-hmm.

A, basically a religious cult. Yeah. Um. How do you kind of interpret God or how do you move forward that way? Did you go through a phase question phase where you're like, F all this? Yeah. I don't see God as a big man in the sky. I'm more, even the word God. I honestly don't even like saying that much for myself.

Mm-hmm. I like to call it the universe. Yeah. So I, I believe that we're all connected and there's something bigger than us. There's something divine. Yeah. But I all, I just, I don't see it as a big man in the sky. Well, yeah. I'm not quite sure, you know what God is essentially. Mm-hmm. But there's definitely something.

Yeah. There's definitely something. Yeah. You know, and I don't think that our minds as humans can comprehend it. Yeah. And definitely not in the sky, you know? Yeah. Like, that's like UFO territory. But I definitely am a big believer in God. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Um, and I think a lot of us are, I think we just have different words for it.

Like for you, God is God. And for me it's the universe. Yeah. I actually recorded a podcast episode not too long ago where I was talking about how for the longest time I kind of just skirted saying, God, because when you grow up here in Utah, um, I did not grow up Mormon. Mm-hmm. But obviously I'm very, very familiar with the Mormon religion here.

Um, you get a lot of people coming out of Mormonism Yeah. Who are just like anti, so at what age do you feel like you really started to question the belief system that you were in? Hmm. I, I, I think the, I came really aware of that starting to at 16 and then I really started questioning it at 17 and 18 and then I left the religion when I was 19.

Okay. So I have some li siblings who knew from the get-go when they were younger that it just wasn't for them. Yeah. But with me, I. It's like I didn't even know that was an option in my brain that I could think that it wasn't for me. I think I was just trying really hard to make my parents happy mostly.

And so it didn't even cross my brain until I was getting into my upper teens. Yeah. So what was kind of like your first thought? Were you being pushed to like marriage or, I, uh, so in the religion I was from. We weren't allowed to date. So a lot of us would date with and have, we would do it secretly. So I had a secret boyfriend and one of our biggest arguments was if we weren't meant to be together.

'cause in the religion there's a arranged marriage as well. Mm-hmm. So the women go to the leaders of the religion. And they say they can give a name of who they feel like they're supposed to marry, and then the leaders will pray about it and they will tell you if God told them yes or no. And then, uh, or if you didn't give a a name, they will just give you a random person.

Yeah. So with the arguments with my boyfriend, he was like, what if we are, we're not what? Why are we dating? What if I'm stealing you from who your true husband is? Oh, okay. Yeah. And I would say, why would I go to them to get married and not marry you? Like that was our biggest argument. But him, he had a lot of guilt, feeling like he was stealing me Oh.

As if I was property to be stolen. That's really weird from this hypothetical though, honestly. Yeah. The whole thing is super weird. Mm-hmm. I mean, the polygamy in general is super interesting. Right. I had fear when I was younger too, of marrying an old man as one of his wives. Uhhuh, like especially the leader.

I was so scared to marry him, and I'm thinking of how brainwashed I was. Even as a little girl, I was seven or eight years old. I was drawing a piece of paper and I was drawing a. Husband and wife on a bench with the husband's arm around his wife watching a sunset. I was drawing that and my mom came up to me and looked at it and she's like, oh, that's cute, but you need to draw another woman.

Oh, and I was just like eight years old or whatever, and I'm looking at it, I'm like, ah, dang it. And I just remember my heart sank in that moment and I'm like, okay, mom said, and I had to draw another woman. And I have that paper still and you can see it where I scribbled one his arm and had to draw it up with his arm around a woman.

Oh, you do? Yeah. That's crazy. I still have that in storage somewhere. But yeah, so like I could produce it. I, yeah, but also weird, right? Mm-hmm. Do you have a relationship with your parents now? Uh, my dad passed away and then my second mom passed away as well. Um, my mom, they're, I don't know, my relationship's kind of with this, with her right now.

Mm-hmm. And then my other two moms. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. Do you get to talk to 'em or is it like you're out? Mm-hmm. Sometimes it's like you're out. Do not communicate with them. Yeah. It's not like that with my family. I can still communicate with anyone in my family. There's some family members that would are still judging.

Mm-hmm. But my, it, I'm not in the religion where you leave and they just cut you off. That's nice. But when I left for the first time, 10. Or so, 10 plus years ago, it was really hard when I left because I was one of the first ones to leave and I'm a middle child in my family and I was one of the first women to move out who wasn't married.

So what did that, I just moved out. Simple. Yeah. What did that look like? Um, did you have a job or? I was, before I moved out, I was just a nanny for a lot of families, so that's basically what I did. But for a lot of families, I also did it for free. Two. And that's even what I did growing up. Like that was my main job growing up, was raising my siblings.

Mm-hmm. That's why I was the last one homeschooled, because I couldn't go to school because they needed me home to help raise the younger kids and cook food and clean the house. I have two siblings the same age as me who went to school. Oh. But I, for some reason you Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, she's gonna stay home and do it.

Yeah. And I had my online school that I was doing, and I graduated from that, but it's still. Yeah, it's, it blows my mind now thinking about it that way. Like, wow, I had to stay home. Like they needed me home to help run things. I know, but that happens a lot in big families. It does. Mm-hmm. You know, the old, well, and if you ever watch the Duggars on tv, you know, the, the older kids always had a younger kid they were assigned to that taken care of.

Definitely how it was for my family, like my older sisters, they're like, they were like my mom. They had me more than my mom did. That's so wild. Yeah. I can't now, me as a mom, I cannot imagine that. Mm-hmm. It truly just blows my mind. You would kind of just have to start to check out probably, you know, you just assume that your kids are good and Yeah.

Just doing what you can to get through every day. Right. You can, and you have so many that you can't really have really deep relationships with them. Yeah. Especially my dad, he was gone to work all the time, and then when he was home, he was stressed. From work or tired from work. And then he had all these wives he had to take care of too.

Like it was hard to have a, like a deep relationship with him. Could you imagine coming home, you guys were all in one house? Yes. So he would come home to 44 kids? Yeah. Well, at one point my older brothers kind of started moving out. Yeah. As my younger siblings were born two. Okay. But at any given time it was like 30 people?

Oh yeah. 30 plus. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Conservatively, it's still, it's still a lot of kids. Yeah. I think there's, uh, 15 bedrooms, 13 bathrooms. Or I might have that switched. In my house. That's a lot. Yeah. It's crazy. So did the moms have their own rooms? Yes. Okay. They all had their own rooms. My dad had his own room too.

Oh. Mm-hmm. So would the moms go to his room? Yes. Ugh, gross. Yeah, they were very, very private with that though. They still wouldn't even talk about it. Well, yeah. And even when I was a kid, my mom had to sleep in my room sometimes. 'cause when I was really little, I don't think they all had rooms. I think some of the wives had to share rooms when I was.

Really when I was like really little. Yeah. Before they added on space to the house. I know I'm familiar with polygamy and I've talked to a lot of people, but this is interesting. Yeah. A lot of times they'll have different houses or honestly, I feel like a different setup. Feel like if you want to live polygamy in a good way, I feel like different houses would be the best way to go for the wives.

Yeah, because you just clash. Head so much. Mm-hmm. And then you're constantly seeing your man with another woman. I feel like if you had your own space, I don't know, you could just curate it better and be less in fight or flight. The whole thing though is just, I dunno. Yeah. Even though I grew up in it, it's weird to me.

Yeah. And then they put that religious component into it. Mm-hmm. So you feel like you're damned. Yeah. And you better get in line. Yeah. They feel like that's their only way to heaven. Yeah. And so they have to do it. So when you left at 19, did you just like move out on your own? What'd you do? So I left emotionally at 19, but I was still living at home until I was 20, and then I physically moved out at 20.

So what happened was I went growing up. They teach you that. It's such a privilege to be. A sister, wife. Mm-hmm. And to live this type of lifestyle. But when I got older, I started having real conversations with women of how hard it truly was. And that's when things started to shift in my brain to be like, oh wow, this is actually really fucking hard.

Like life is hard in general. I don't want this type of heart. This is not for me. And then that's when it really hit me where I never truly wanted it. It really never was for me. But I was programmed so deep from such a young age my whole life that I didn't know it was an option that I couldn't live that way until I was like 16, 17 when I started questioning it.

Wow. Yeah. Huh. Um, okay. So eventually like you move out. Mm-hmm. And you've had a nanny job, and then like what did you do? When I moved out, I started working at Chick-fil-A and I didn't even have a car when I moved out. I had a bike that I rode to work or I would walk to work. Sometimes my coworkers would drop me off back at home.

And then even my mom came from her house and took me to work, or, yeah, took me back home sometimes. That's cool though. Yeah. Yeah. She was very supportive. I'm when I moved out, like with me needing rides and stuff, and then I was, after six months of doing that, I got a car. Oh, cool. Yeah. I love that. Mm-hmm.

Okay. So then eventually you get married and now you have a baby. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So me and my husband met. Year, years later, well, I guess not too long, 'cause I guess I met him at 21. So it wasn't that that long. Six months later at the Chick-fil-A drive through? Uh, no, he was renting a room from my brother actually.

Oh yeah. So I went to my brother's house and I saw him there and we were friends on Facebook and he messaged me on there months later and stuff. But he was from the same religion, but we grew up in. Different parts. Like he grew up kind of by Colorado City, but a different religion. He was actually born in St.

George. Then his family moved there and joined where I grew up in Salt Lake, and then he moved to Salt Lake when he was 17. Okay. And yeah, we met there. That's awesome. Yeah. Okay. So when did you kinda start to change your mind around like, I don't have to follow this. We can just call it a cult, if you're okay with that.

I'm okay with that. Yeah. I, I usually call it a high demand religion just because I have family members in it. Yeah. Okay. And even though it really is a cult, I try to, I don't know. Okay. I try to not be as abrasive, but you can say cult. It doesn't offend me. No, I totally feel you. But you know, a high demand religion has like all these like boxes and stuff you have to tick.

Mm-hmm. And they're telling you how to believe they're telling you what God is. You know what to wear down to who you're gonna sleep with essentially, and how many kids you're gonna have. You know? So when you started to leave that, so you left it right? Mm-hmm. But when did you kinda start to find your own, where you're like, Hey, I wanna talk about manifesting and I wanna like.

I start, 'cause obviously you would've had to change your mind about yourself mm-hmm. Before you could start helping other people. Yeah. So I went, I hung out with a coworker and some of his friends and one time I was sitting in a circle and there was probably eight of us there. And every single one of us had a different religion and different, just different backgrounds of where we're from.

And in that moment it hit me that, wow, you can be a completely different vert person and still hang out with them and have a good time. You can choose your own life of what you want it to be, whatever you choose to be, what you wanna live your life. It's not, there's not right or wrong, it's just whatever, however you want to live your life.

So with me, when I started leaving myself, it's like. What is a type of life that I want to create? And I started seeing some posts online about manifestation, and I was interested in it and I started reading up on it. I watched The Secret, I'm sure you've heard about The Secret? Yes. And everything. That was like the first introduction.

It's gateway drug. It really is. It is the gateway drug. The gateway drug for sure. Um. And I al also went to some personal development, uh, courses and went, had a weekend with that. The first time I learned that I really loved it is I went into a personal development, what would you call it? Like a seminar?

Seminar? Yes. A conference. Conference. I think that was the word that I was looking for a conference and it was just for a weekend and I learned so much about mindset at that conference and it just really fired me up. And then I signed up and went to them once a week for three months. And then after I did that, I volunteered as a coach, so I was able to coach other people.

Oh, that's cool. And that just fired me up so much when I was coaching other people. What program was it or it was with, uh, lighthouse. Oh, I don't think I've heard of it. Yeah. That's awesome. Mm-hmm. I feel like I might have the word even wrong. 'cause this was over 10 years ago. Yeah. You're like, listen, it was cool.

It changed my life. It wa it was cool. It changed my life. I'm postpartum sometimes. My brain glitches right now and I can't even think of words. My youngest is 14 and I'm, well now we get to switch into perimenopause. Oh yeah. That's where I'm at. Yeah. That's fun. I don't, I dunno, I don't mind it. Someone told me the other day, they're like, once you go through menopause and you don't have a period and all of a sudden you're like, I am free uhhuh.

I feel like that's probably in that, well, a lot of women change their life around a lot of that. Around that time. Mm-hmm. Do you, why do you think that is? Do you feel like it's because they realize they're just done putting up with things and they only have a limited amount of time on Earth and they just wanna live it to their fullest potential?

So yeah. Potential. I, I turned 40, you know, this last year. I'm really, in February I'll be 41. And even that was kind of life changing really. And I would say, say things to myself, I'd be like, oh, I'm 40, I'm not gonna listen to that anymore. Mm-hmm. And it was even just things where. You know, maybe you're like, oh, I better like make sure that my mom da dah, dah, dah, dah.

You know? Mm-hmm. I'm just giving random examples. Mm-hmm. Right. And then I was like, wait a minute. Like, why the hell would I care? Right. You know, I've lived on my own since I was 17. You know, just different things like that. Mm-hmm. You know, where I was like, why would I care if what they care that I'm wearing?

I like these pants. You know? Right. It is, you just really start to realize how much of your life is wrapped around that. Mm-hmm. And I do think it's an age thing, like the Yeah. The older you get, all of a sudden you're just, you have less bucks. Yeah. Yeah. And I can't tell you why. I don't know. I don't know why, but I enjoy it.

That's awesome. Yeah. I feel like that even in my thirties. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Less Fox for, do you like how we're going through your timeline? I'm just like, facts. Your story is really cool. Honestly, I, I love all questions. Yeah. So I, yeah. I'm an open book. This is what I talk about on TikTok mainly would love me some TikTok.

Yeah. I love it so much. So I. Like to go live on TikTok and talk about my background and I'm just answering so many questions on there and it's really fun. I usually, a lot of people show up live. Yeah. It's so fun for me since I have, since I've had my baby. I haven't been on it as much, but I've been feeling myself pulled to it more to, to go live more.

Oh, I used to post every day on TikTok and be me just like sitting and like talking. Mm-hmm. Um, but the last, I would say it's been about two months, I kind of just took a little. Like posting pause. Mm-hmm. It's been really lovely. I feel like you have to do that with TikTok mainly Sometimes. Yeah. 'cause it can really be so much.

Yeah. And I'll be like, oh, I'm gonna jumpstart my TikTok again this week. Mm-hmm. And then I'm kind of just like, nah, I think I'm okay. Mm-hmm. You know? And it's not like a scared thing or anything like that. Mm-hmm. I'm just in that space right now. It's nice. Yeah. And to be honest, we make hun, you know, for my company, we make hundreds of tiktoks every week that go out.

Right. So, mm-hmm. I'm just kinda like. Listen. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. You gotta have that ebb and flow sometimes. You really do. Um, but okay, so you go to this mindset thing, you end up teaching. Mm-hmm. What do you feel like is one of the most beneficial pieces of advice that you got out of that, that like you implement every day?

That is such a good question. The biggest thing that is standing out to me that there's so many, I, I'm trying to figure out how to word this. There's so many made up rules that we just apply into our life where some of them don't even exist. We just assume that they exist. Mm-hmm. Like there's rules where we have to assume that we have to be a certain way or act this way.

Just kind of like what you were saying earlier of how you, like you wanna wear the pants 'cause you want to, yeah. Where there could be a rule where you can't wear those. Especially if you're at a certain age or whatever reason, but it just made me realize that I can choose to create my own life and choose to create my own reality with that.

What do you feel like has been super cool that you've chosen to create? Hmm. That's a great question. I mean, thinking of material things, I don't know, like a big deal of something that I've chosen to create is like manifesting my car or I lived in Hawaii for a couple years and that was amazing. Just going there and doing that.

My husband, it's really hard to just pick one thing. Yeah. Hmm. It seems like you're living a really full life, and I know, I would say you just had a baby, so I know that sometimes you feel. I know what those tips are. I honestly feel, I feel really fulfilled. Yeah, I really do. I feel like that would be the biggest thing with manifestation is just with everything I have right now in my life, I feel like I'm exactly where I'm meant to be.

I still want more in my life and more for my life, but that's a journey. Yeah. And yeah, baby's a lot of work too, and it's very tiring. But it's what I'm saying also, it's also very, uh, you're gonna have those days where you're like crying in the corner. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah, a hundred percent.

It's kind of reminds me like when you're going to the gym and you're working out, like some days are great and you feel really good. Yes. Other days you're really freaking tired. So I'm training for a half right now. Really? Wow. Yes. And last week I ran seven and a half miles and I was like, dude, I am the shit Uhhuh, you know?

And then my run yesterday was like 4.4 and mile two. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna make this. Mm-hmm. Like, I feel like I've never ran a day in my life. Well, obviously I felt better than that, but you know. Mm-hmm. Right. It's, but you showed up anyway. Yeah. I mean, did I, that's amazing. But running is one of those things where you can really tell how your body ebbs and flows, and that's when I've really been able to notice you and just like where I'm at my cycle and things like that.

I. Say, especially as a woman. Yeah. And that's how life is. Mm-hmm. Like sometimes someone could be like, Hey, you have to deal with this situation. And you're like, cool, I got it. And other times you're like, I can't do that. Yep. Yeah. Exactly. And that's how, that's how I feel all the time. Yeah. Sometimes I can be down on myself with the down parts though.

Mm-hmm. Like, okay, I need to get my energy back up. I need to do that. But then I have to take my own advice and just give myself some grace and be patient. Where I'm at. Yeah. Chill the fuck out. Yeah. Literally chill the fuck out. I'm not good at that at all though. I'm not gonna lie. I try to be good at it.

Sometimes I. Just over stress about it. I'm like, oh, wait, I need, I need chill, need chill. Well, and part of manifesting, so, and I'm, I'm big on like praying and that God. Mm-hmm. You know, um, it's like me and God, we've got this. Mm-hmm. But the patience part of it, it's like you've set the intention, you know what you wanna do.

Mm-hmm. Right. Exactly. But then you don't know how, because you're not the creator of such a way. Right. Right. It's like you're the how isn't up to you. And that's how I see it with the universe. I have the, I have the desire. And then you trust that it's gonna be taken care of. You gotta meet it halfway, the universe halfway.

Mm-hmm. Go halfway and do what you gotta do to get that. But it's also the chilling out is trusting that you're not the one doing all the work. Yeah. Because overstressing about it can just make your, it can tire tire your mind. Kate, you wanna hear my really cool manifesting story from the last two days?

Yes. I would love that. I am like, I can't believe all this stuff is happening. Okay. So yesterday afternoon, um, I helped a friend of mine, he's really cool. I. I'm like, we give him a shout out on the podcast, but anyways. Mm-hmm. I, another client of mine, I'm like, Hey, this would be a great match. I want you guys to do this.

This will be really good. Mm-hmm. I know it will be, you know? Right. So they ended up doing it. Long story short, anyways, I'm, um, just, we went and got gelato, my friend Ryland and I, and I was telling him, I'm like, he's funny. He's one of those people that you can talk to your goals, you know? Love that you love that can talk to your goals.

Love words. He's one of those people that you can talk about big goals with. Mm-hmm. I, you know, was even showing him how I'm like, Hey, I know this is how I can make a million dollars next year. 'cause when I was telling him, he is like, show me. And I was like, it's just a couple numbers, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, but he's one of those people.

And he was like, so we were talking about money, but it was a really cool conversation. And I was like, one of my things, I just really wanna be able to donate to people. Um, and I was telling him about how my friend Emmy right now, um, her son has a rare neurological disorder. It's called RET syndrome. You know, they don't like, he probably, you know, he could pass it anytime.

I hate to say that. That's hard. You know, they've given him a short life expectancy. Mm-hmm. But she's given him a big life. It's really incredible to watch. Mm. But they need like a special. Van, like a handicap van, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, to help transport him. And I was like, gosh, I wish I just like had that money saved.

'cause next year I'm gonna buy a new car in 2026. Mm-hmm. But I wanted to save a chunk of it. And I was like, honestly, if I had that money saved, I'd just give it to her. Right. There's a whole, this whole story is going somewhere, right? Mm-hmm. So I get home, um, and I had helped him like get that client and I guess they had paid for the year in full.

He sent me a really big check yesterday, last night, Uhhuh, and he goes, I hope this helps you with those car things. And I was like, what? So I took a portion of it and I, I sent it to her. That is insane. Isn't that cool? Yeah. Your manifestation was fulfilled, but also so was your friends. Yeah. So I took part of, and I'm not like sharing this with you guys to like clot myself up of Yeah, of course.

But just like where sometimes you can have that intention. Mm-hmm. And the how is none of your business. Yeah. You know? Right. I was like, this is something that's been on my heart for a while, you know? And I was like. I just, I'm always like, God's got us, you know? Mm-hmm. Let's see what happens. And I was like, oh my gosh.

Obviously, you know, it wasn't, it's not even close to like her full car needs. Mm-hmm. But I didn't have that to send. Yeah. But you still helped. Yeah. I thought it was so cool. Yeah. I was like, just little pieces like that, and then today it keeps getting wilder. Okay. Oh, I'm excited. Um, today I had this big meeting with this big media company.

I don't wanna share too much until like we've signed and everything's moving forward. Mm-hmm. But their thing is they really wanna run this huge campaign and it's gonna have a really big give back portion. It'll go for like the next three or four months. Wow. Um, I have my own sober story. Everyone listen to the podcast, knows it, but it's really gonna push and help a lot of people in this community.

Mm-hmm. And they're gonna do a big give back campaign that goes with it, but it's also gonna help my business a ton. And I was just like. What is happening? That is amazing. What is happening? I left that meeting and I was like, what is going on? I love it when manifestations are just happening where you're like, I know I want this to happen, but now that it's happening, it's like, what is happening?

Yeah. I probably, and Cindy's heard me a lot. It, it's been my like last six months, I've been like, 26 is gonna be really big. 2026 is gonna be really big. Mm-hmm. And now I'm like, I don't know how we're gonna make it through January. I'm like, hold on. It's getting crazy. 'cause I just feel like. I'm like, you can't make this stuff up.

Yeah. And that's why the how isn't fucking up to you. Yeah. 'cause we could think of a couple how's where if it's up to the universe or God, the how's are infinite. Mm-hmm. And we, and it just happens in the best way that it possibly could. I know. And every time I'm like, ah, nobody wants to hear me's talking about being sober.

Like this little voice in my head. And God is like, I need you to tell your story. Sober story. Mm-hmm. I just need you to keep telling your sober story. So I'm like, okay, well you're not the only one that has. Gone through that and you can help someone else. Yeah, like it really is important. Well, even just like, oh my gosh, where we going?

Even just like you. I will watch us spill the Diet Coke. Do not spill the Diet Coke. I, that's my afternoon diet coach. Um, but even just like you were saying, you know, you went through something, you went and learned like how about you can change your mind about yourself. And I remember those first days, like watching The Secret, and remember my husband came home and I was like, babe, I think we can change our lives if we change our minds.

You know? Mm-hmm. And he's like, what? Like mm-hmm. You know? And we both went in this like. You kind of turn into a little bit of crackhead there for a minute with self-help uhhuh, but you know, once you get it, you're like, okay. Yeah. And then you can ease up a little bit. Yeah. Like that's why it's even sometimes hard for me to even come back to it because it's such a norm of how I live my life and I'm not so deep into like just that crackhead energy into it.

Mm-hmm. It's hard to bring it back, if that makes sense. Yeah. So you change your mind about yourself and you're like, I'm gonna help others. And even sharing your story today is helping other people. You know, and there might not be anyone who's lived polygamy that's listening, right. But you might have, you know, lived a shitty situation or maybe you're in a situation right now and you're like, okay, I'm the only one who can help me out of this.

Yeah. And it's hard because you have, you let a lot of people down when you leave, something like that. And you just have to realize that you can't just keep living a lie to yourself anymore. And that's how leaving polygamy was for me. Yeah. It's like you let a lot of people down. You lose a big part of your community, your worldview is completely changing.

Mm-hmm. But you gotta follow what, where you're feeling pulled to. Yeah. Instead, because then if you just stay with that, when you're not meant to be there, you're not going to feel good. Like with some people, you could probably even get sick or be stressed out all the time. Mm-hmm. So I think you're doing big things in the world.

Thank you. You know, you could have easily just hid and been like, eh, I don't want people to be mad at me. I could have been someone's wife right now and just be a baby machine. Like an old man one, an old man's wife. Oh, that does not, that does not sound fun for me because there could have been situations so many where I could have been.

Mm-hmm. One of. I mean their wives. And I'm just so, so glad. I'm not, if you even think of like the sexual trauma that these women go through these younger and they're young. Yeah. They're so young. If you guys haven't watched the documentary, keep Sweet. I watched it. Oh my It is. And that's just scratch scratching the surface.

Well, and with that documentary too, like, 'cause I mean, I grew up, I, I grew up with all that happening in real time. Mm-hmm. I remember watching it on the news, you know, obviously I know, I know a lot of ex polygamists. It is really well done. The documentary, it's very, very well done. It point, because my daughter, it's Point was watching it with me and she's like, oh, no way.

And I'm like, no, that, that's how that went down. Mm-hmm. It's true. But there's, it's crazy how all that is so true. And it's so well made. There's even more, yeah, like there's some things are like, there's no way, but then there's even crazier things. Mm-hmm. On. Yeah, so I mean, I'd also like to congratulate you on skipping sexual trauma, being raped by an old man, you know?

Thank you. Thank you. I would not want that, which in the religion, like they keep sex so hush, hush. Like, don't sleep with other people before you're married, but then they expect you to just go sleep with this person. A lot of that you don't even know, or this old man on your wedding night and be okay with it.

Ugh. That is, ugh. So much trauma. No. And we deserve more than that. Yeah. You know, just as a person. Mm-hmm. Like, ugh, we deserve more to be, to be just a number and just one of his trophies. Yeah. Gosh. Plus, I don't know why we're talking about this, but even just think about the amount of times. You'd have to have sex to like produce a baby with someone where you're just laying there and you don't even know what's happening to you as a young girl.

It's ridiculous. Or just have you just have a baby and then having this fear that every time you have sex you might get pregnant. Yeah. And you're not even giving your body enough time to heal. I'd be one of those people who somehow like sneak in the Plan BS down at the corner market, you know? Yeah. For real.

I'm huffing them in the bathroom. I'm like, we're not doing this. I love that. But you're also in the mindset that you're supposed to be populating the kingdom of God, you know? Yeah, yeah. They're creating, uh yeah. The army of Jesus. Yeah. So. Poor Jesus. That's not, he's like, that's not what I meant guys.

That's not what I meant. But the, it's crazy 'cause a lot of women wouldn't even go get plant bees because they think that's what they have to do. Yeah. Well, like if you're getting to that point where you would be popping plant bees mm-hmm. You'd be making an escape route. No. You'd be, you'd be bouncing.

Yeah. For sure. Right. Yeah. Um, what is it that you really want to leave this world with? Like, what kind of impact do you want to make? Because I feel like you've got something big going on. That is such a good question. I would, Hmm. I think it changes though, you know? So, but like, what is it for you right now that you really wanna make a difference doing?

Hmm. Can I take a second to think about this? 'cause I course definitely wanna think about it for a sec. Of course, if someone asked me right now, I'd be like, shit, I don't know. 'cause there's so many things I wanna do. I mean, there's so many, like right now it's like I wanna make a big impact in the world and show people that life can be beautiful and amazing.

Yes, there's a lot of shit out in the world right now, but there's also a lot of beauty. If you think that there's only shit, that's all you're going to see. Yeah. Is only shit. If you believe that there's beauty, then you're going to start seeing the beauty. And I, I don't know. That's just so big for me right now because there is so much going on, and especially as a mom, I want to see the beauty because my son is here in front of me right now.

He's playing and I wanna be present with him too. If I'm thinking about all the shit that is going on, I disassociate and I'm not present with him. And I also want to create a beautiful life. I want other women to know that they can have a beautiful life too, so I have to live it in my own life, if that makes sense.

Oh, absolutely. Um, I used to call this like, every day you have to like look for the glitter, the glitter's not just gonna find you. Mm-hmm. You know, because it depends on the lens that you're viewing with, you know? Yeah. Um, and even things like, yeah, I get up and run in the dark, staring at myself on a treadmill.

But there's like really cool on the way home, I get to watch the sunrise, you know, so it could be hyper fixated on mm-hmm. That, or it could be hyper fixated on like the whole big picture. But I used to call it the glitter. I love that. I through a really awful depressive episode and it was before I quit drinking.

It was great. 'cause I don't have that anymore. Imagine that. Mm-hmm. When you, who would've thought when, when you remove a depressant from your life? Seriously. Um, and I did. I would, every day I'd have to be like, okay, I have to find the happy things. And it could be something stupid. Like we had these little, do you guys get those little yellow birds around here?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Mm-hmm. They're like in packs. Yeah. I always thought they were so cute and they'd like peck on our window and I would watch 'em all the time until I realized they were pulling this, our screen. They would come to our window and sit there and I thought we were like interacting uhhuh, but they were taking pieces of our screen and then pretty soon our whole screen was gone.

No, but it was just little things like that, you know, Uhhuh, where I was like, okay, that's awesome. Look at those little ERs building their nests with our screens. They use their resources. Yes. But it was just like stupid things like that where I'm like, that's kind of cool. But it's not stupid though. Yeah.

Like you think it's stupid little things, but I think it all comes down to the little things. It is, you know, little things. Even my husband will tell me this all the time. 'cause you know what they're always like, every time you spend money on a latte, you could have boughten yourself. You know, that self-help thing.

Mm-hmm. And my husband's great. 'cause he's like, Sam, getting a latte brings you a lot of joy. Yeah. Why are you so in your head about it? Yeah. And you work hard. Yeah. You deserve that latte. Yeah. And it's just, it's things like that, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So yeah, that's a. That's what I hope people get. I love that we rounded it back to lattes.

Oh, I do love a good latte. Me too. We did. It was full circle. I hope you guys enjoyed this. Bye. No. Okay. But really your Instagram handle is manifest more magic. Ooh. And that's what we all need to do in 2026, is manifest more magic. And what is your podcast called? It manifests more magic with Janet. Z. Same thing.

And then even my TikTok is the same. Manifest more magic. I would say I post on TikTok even more than Instagram. I still do on Instagram, but TikTok usually, yeah. Yeah. I've, I've had some really good momentum on TikTok. Mm-hmm. But. When it drops in of what I wanna like start doing on TikTok again. You won't catch me holding back, that's for sure.

Yeah, I love that. I'm one of those people, I'm like, we run, we don't walk. That's why I love TikTok, because I don't hold back on there. Mm-hmm. I, I don't know. I don't know. Just the energy of it makes way, well, how explain to my clients is like, Instagram is pretty, and we have our aesthetic. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, sometimes that makes me crazy, Uhhuh.

But it's like, I like to curate it and I'm like, TikTok is ratchet. You just, I'm will record 'em in your car. I would prefer that you're sweaty after the gym. You know, I want you eating food while you're talking. Mm-hmm. Like, I call it ratchet land. I love that. It's, I, I don't know, to me it just seems more real.

Well, exactly. That's it. So, and I do enjoy curating. Yeah. Course. You know, of course. I'm of like, oh, it's fun to create and like curate this fun thing. Mm-hmm. And like, I like to edit my photos. I'm like, Ooh, that's so fun. And pick songs, you know, that's fun. But TikTok is like, yeah, it is fun. This is who we are.

And then I'll say Instagram, like, Instagram Stories is where I post about my podcast more too. Yeah. Cool.

Awesome. Well, is there anything else like you wanna share? I don't, nothing's coming to mind. Nothing except for, I mean, everyone needs to create more magic. Yes. Everyone needs to create that little bit of glitter magic. Yeah. Into their life. Well, thank you so much for your time today and thanks for being here.

Thank you. And I can't wait to see now. Okay. Hold on though. Now you. Have to do really big things in 2026. 'cause I've said that you're going to, so 2026 feels really good. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? It feels really, really good. It feels big. Yeah. And I'm not usually one of those people. I'm like, this is gonna be our year.

Mm-hmm. But I'm like, oh no. It just feels like something has shifted in the wind. It does. It feels different. Yeah. I already know you're gonna do big things and now you're, I'm holding you to the fire. 'cause I think you're amazing. You have a great energy. When we were walking and I was like, you're gonna do my podcast?

And you were like, oh, okay. And I'm like, yeah, that's what we're doing. Thank you. Um, I just think you're an amazing person. You have a great energy and I can't wait to like get to know you more and see what you do this year. Thank you so much for creating this space. Like I was nervous coming on here, but even just hanging out and just your energy and your a aura just made me feel so much more relaxed in place.

Well, I did have my fly down for part of the recording. You're like, did you know your zippers down? I was like, no, thank you. Did that help? I did that for you. Thank you so much. You took one for the team. That's mortifying. But thank you so much for coming on the podcast and thanks for your time today.

Thank you, Samantha.