The Samantha Parker Takeover Podcast Series EP7: Janelle Devlin Life Coach

Janelle Devlin on Scaling Business Without Losing Yourself: Clarity, Alignment, and Triage for High-Achieving Women

The Samantha Parker interviews her friend Janelle Devlin, who shares how she helps high-performing women scale their businesses while prioritizing personal growth, wellness, and key relationships. They compare business growth to half-marathon training, discuss physical and emotional clutter as a sign of unclear priorities, and explore how goals and values prevent “side quests.” Janelle outlines her triage framework assess, prioritize (“stop the bleed”), and stabilize emphasizing identity, “state and story,” and a practical definition of alignment based on purpose, values, and support. Janelle describes homeschooling, fostering and adopting two daughters, and the significance of feeling called to adopt. Samantha closes the takeover series and shares Janelle’s website and free business archetype quiz.

00:00 Welcome and Janelle Intro
00:25 Spanish and Costa Rica
02:07 Elevator Pitch Coaching
03:34 Running Lessons for Business
05:44 Jeep Culture and Ducks
06:30 Emotional Clutter and Clarity
08:54 Sentimental Clothes and Closet Sale
12:28 Triage Framework for Chaos
15:14 What Alignment Really Means
17:41 Pride After the Finish Line
22:05 Side Quests and Values
26:04 Identity and Morning Habits
26:59 State And Story
27:53 Rewriting The Soundtrack
28:49 Stabilize With Alignment
31:01 Values Drive Strategy
33:47 Accountability That Works
34:55 Boxing And Old School Life
41:12 Family And Adoption Journey
50:34 Blueprints And Better Stories
53:38 Wrap Up And Free Quiz

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Transcript

Hey guys. Welcome back to the Samantha Parker Show. Today on the couch is my good friend Janelle. Hey everybody. Janelle Devlin.

Okay, so back to the podcast. We just took a little break. We didn't even start. No, we had the, the trash, the awesome cleaning lady came in. It was the prequel. Yeah, it was like the chips and salsa before the entree. And this girl just busted out Spanish. Yeah. I didn't know you spoke Spanish. Where did you, where'd you pick that up?

Costa Rica.

So I lived in Costa Rica to study Spanish For how many years did you just say? I was only there for six months for a program, but I I, when we moved, we moved around a lot growing up. Part of what has made me very adaptable, oldest of four kids and moved around a good amount with my dad's work. And we moved to New York from Colorado when I was in fourth grade and they start speaking Spanish, then they start, you know, Spanish in schools.

So. I'll never forget, I just, I was in my first Spanish class and I thought, this is my thing. I love it. Okay. I'm jealous because I took Spanish Uhhuh, seventh, eighth, ninth, 10, 11th grade. Yeah. And I never got to do anything. Mm-hmm. I literally know nothing. Mm-hmm. If you did write down some sentences, I could pick out words.

You could, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you really, I feel like unless you go and live somewhere and are immersed in it, it's pretty hard. I know. But it's something I think about all the time. Oh yeah. It's not too late. I know. I think I could pick it back up. Yeah. Maybe we can have the, the takeover, like south of the border version could just, right.

Yeah. So I, I love it. So when I was a, a nurse, which we might talk about that a little bit, but I got to really use it in Colorado. Oh yeah. Yeah. A couple of my male clients speak Spanish, you know, but it's because they went on Spanish speaking missions. Yeah, they went on mission, I think mission or a study abroad.

Yeah. To live somewhere makes all the difference. So all of a sudden I'm like, yeah. What does Janelle not do? Something else? What do you know about me? What does this, well, this, this is what podcast are good for. Nice lady. Not do well. Thank you. It's been so great to be here. Good. I'm glad you're here. Okay.

But besides speaking Spanish. Yes. Let's just lay down real quick. If I was like, Hey, what's your elevator pitch? What would you say? I help high performing women to scale business while also prioritizing their personal growth. Their wellness and the relationships that mean the most to them. So I think most women in business, if you've been in business, if I say for more than like five minutes, you know there's a good amount of pressure.

And to know that there's a way to grow business while staying true to who you are, growing who you are. That's something we don't talk about enough. We hear about what happens, you know, 10 years down the line, 20 years down the line when we feel like we've lost ourselves and who am I now? We hear that a lot.

So I bring my expertise and my kind of ability to be integrative, look at the whole person, and come in and help to prioritize what needs to. What needs to be prioritized and then to really stabilize what needs to be stabilized in business. Okay. That's pretty cool. Okay. Okay. So I think I would probably be your ideal person.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. It would be where I'm like, Hey, I am running. Yeah. Well, literally, literally running a half marathon. Yeah. I did just do that. Yeah. With Mindy did it. Yeah. Yeah. And Cody, it was so fun 'cause Cody and I did end up running the whole race together, which I know he could have gone ahead a little.

Yeah. But it was fun. I was like, I love, please run with me. Yeah. Yes. It was so fun. But I signed up for next year. Mm-hmm. How many lessons do you think there are in learning to push yourself and run the distance? You know, that's a big one, is not stopping, you know? But I do run in intervals too, so it's not like I ran for three straight hours, you know?

Yeah. But we did stop and walk and then we would run. But it is. Mm-hmm. It's all mental. Mm-hmm. And once I get going, that first mile's really hard for me. It is even harvest. And even like this weekend, I just ran the Bloomington Circle, which is a 5K, and I'll run that quite a bit. It is uphill both ways though.

Make that make sense to me. So I always like, it's just one big hill. It is. It's one big circle and it's one big hill, literally. So I'm like, which side of the hill do I wanna run up? Okay. And then there's just a slide at the, at the top that takes you down to the starting point again. That'd be awesome.

It's okay. So it's, look, there's a hill over here, right? Yeah. And then the circle, but you have to go up the hill. Mm. You know? 'cause we're kind of at the lower point. I'm Turing, I'm picturing. Yep. I know exactly what you mean. So I always pick, but I have, you know, I can either do two miles uphill or one mile and I always pick the one mile once I figured it out.

Way to go. I think. I think the running as we're talking about what we learn through it, I don't think I. Ever learned more than training for my first half marathon years ago. You have to push yourself. Yeah, you gotta show up. It's just like in business, I feel like whatever that next business goal is, oh, you have to show up.

For a lot of my women, it's like getting to that, you know that whatever that next level is. I have someone who's going from this last year went from 120 5K, and then after working with me for about five, six months, hit her annual yearly goal. 250 K. That was huge. This year she's doubling it to 500 K.

That's awesome. And so it's just like a marathon. It's, you know what the end point is and you gotta do the work along the way. You showed up for your running plan. Yeah. You showed up early. It was still dark outside. I saw you. Oh yeah. It scared me with your horn. At least one on one occasion as I was walking in, in a daze on caffeinated.

You're like. Run 10 miles. Yeah. That one time you were like, what are you doing? I'm like, I just finished 10 miles off. And you're like, just over cheaper. You're just walking in. Yeah. I was like, Hmm, no. Of course not. That's not how I felt, but I was just saying, Hey, yes you were. That was so funny that day.

And I was like, I'm gonna scare the shit over it. And I'm like, don't do it. Don't do it. And I was like, I did it. I would do the same. You were in a Jeep. We're in a Jeep. It's just, you never know what's gonna happen. You just, you're dominating. Yeah. You're a little unhinged. Yeah. Yeah. Do, do you Jeep wave. I, so the longer that I've had the Jeep, I forget I, and then I'm like, did that guy just wave at me?

Yeah. The other thing, I don't, okay, so I tried a Jeep wave. Mm-hmm. But I don't do the ducking. No, I don't do the ducking either. Yeah. But. This year was the first time I'd ever been ducked. Oh. Which I thought was interesting. Yeah. I had never received a duck uhhuh. Have you received a duck? Yes. Yes we have.

Yeah. But I make sure that I like hide it under the seat. 'cause I don't want more ducks. Okay. Yeah. Someone did let me in today I think, because I had a Jeep and she had a Jeep and, but she had all the. She had the ducks, female, female was one thing, and then the dreamed Jeep. And then she had the ducks in the front, which to me says like, I'm a good, I'm a good human.

So, oh yeah, no, I, I think that's great. I just can't handle that kind of clutter. Right. That is full blown clut to me. Yes. Let's talk about how, let's talk about the emotional clutter in our business. Okay. Like, let's a really good visual of like 25 ducks on your dashboard. So I did tell my husband the other day 'cause he opened the back of my car and he is like, what the hell is going on here?

There's literally Cindy's table is in the back of my car. And all kinds of stuff and I said, you know, babe, the car, the state of the car, like how much work stuff is in my car is the state of my mind at all times. Very true. I literally can tell how I'm feeling by how my car is. Yes, yes. Or the how many tabs are open on our computer sometimes.

Yeah, exactly. Another, but you can see it physically in life too. Yes. Mm-hmm. Very true. I think it comes down to a couple things. Tell me what you think. I think it's, we talk about clarity and wanting to have clarity. So clutter. I notice when I'm struggling with clutter, I'm usually feeling unclear about something in my life.

No, for reals it. No, you're completely right. Mm-hmm. Like if I'm walking around the bathroom and I'm like, there's stuff everywhere and mm-hmm. It's like my hairbrush. Yes. I'm like, what is happening in my life? Yes. No, there's a direct relation Yeah. To like how you feel. Mm-hmm. About like if you're overstimulated mm-hmm.

Is what it is. Mm-hmm. And so you're looking for like, you know, where can I put away? Put that away. Right. But it has nothing to do with like the brush on the counter. Right. That's so true. And then there's also been times in my life when I've had. Spaces that I've just allowed to just be cluttered.

'cause I just knew it wasn't the season, like after my mom died. Yeah. Accumulated all of her things, or received all of her, so much of her stuff and. So I just also gave myself permission to have a couple cluttered spaces, but because I had clarity that I knew it wasn't the right time to go through it, it was okay.

Yeah, I could mentally go. Yep. That's just kind of a, a door I've closed in my mind and that was helpful. So I think same thing in life. I've had women who are growing business while navigating. Perhaps a divorce or while navigating something else really hard in life. So to me, that's almost like that cluttered room.

Doesn't mean it has to be completely cleaned up for us to make progress, but it does mean we just need to be clear on what are the boundaries around that. Okay. So if I'm walking through my house or I'm opening my car and I'm like, this is a cluttered shit show. Mm. And I, I know that that's a correlation.

Yeah. Like what would you do? What would be your first thing? I would come and help you clean it out. I like, I like cleaning your stuff more than I like cleaning my own stuff. I, you know what I would love yeah, I do. I know that you have really good steps and advice you'd give me, but you know what I would Yeah.

Love if we could do this. Yes. Is we were talking about, do you still have some of your mom's clothes? I do. Yeah. Are the ones you're keeping No, they're just ones I can't quite get rid of because there's like a story or I know I picture her wearing it in a picture. I know. You should just see me going through my grandma's clothes.

'cause you know, I just got boxes and boxes at my grandma's. Mm-hmm. Well, I got her whole closet delivered to my house. Wow. Wow. And I did. I, that was the problem. And my sister was like, what are you having a problem with? And she came over and she goes, you're right. I just, I want it all, you know? 'cause I was like, oh, I remember this outfit.

So true. And you, I could have never pulled that from my memory brain banks. Mm-hmm. Before. But you know, what I ended up doing is just keeping a few pieces and then since I got her China cabinet, I just put them in the China cabinet. That's so nice. Because she was an extra small, like Yeah. You know, they're not even going over one boob.

Right. Like, let's be honest. Right. A more fat girl and a tiny vest. That's when you cut out a little section and put like a plaid and make it. Whatever. But athletic, I have marathoner. Yeah. So I was like, I went through it, but I can't get rid of all the excess. Yeah. And so right now it's sitting in the garage and I thought that was a great place for it.

Mm. But you know, what I really wanna do is, I wanna call it, I've seen the college girls are doing it. Where they do these curated like cells. Okay. Instead of being like, Hey, I'm having a garage cell, they like literally act like they're putting out, like putting on this big display. Yes. And they line up the outfits.

I've been to one, my daughter made me. Okay. We were going to like a cool thrift thing. Yeah. You know, and it was just some girl with the clothing rack who had all the outfits lined up. Amazing. And she even put out graphics that was like, come to my closet cell. That's right. But I was thinking about doing that, like curating a bunch of outfits, right?

Yes. For my grandma's clothes and then putting out like graphics and be like, come to my grandma's closet cell. That's a great idea. Wouldn't that be cute? Cute. Oh yeah. You'd make anything cute though. You'd market it beautifully. Yep. Okay. I know that, I love that. I did not make that a marketing moment, but what I feel like is people would show up and it would be kind of fun and special.

Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. It versus just like bins of clothes that people are digging through. Yes. Yeah. Experience, you know, makes it, I'm gonna get outta clothing rack, I'm gonna, yeah. Maybe there'll be beverages. I don't, you know. Yeah. Little snacks. Yes. Yes. That's a whole thing. Uhhuh. Yeah. Clothing swaps are where I get some of my most favorite things.

See all my friends. What, what size are you? Mm-hmm. You could wear some of these tiny vests. She had some killer vests. Really? Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to come and it was very like, show me how to wear. It was very AZ techy. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. My, yeah, that's my style denim. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. And that's what I think I'm gonna do.

We to get together and check out these outfits, get a plan, and I think I need your help. Yeah. We'll help each other out. You know what was awful is I noticed the other day is my husband had piled it up and I'm checked, there's a lot of boxes of clothes. Yeah. And I noticed that they had all fallen over and they were just spilled all over my Peloton.

And I literally was like, I did not see that, but I did notice they cleaned themselves up. Okay, fantastic. But I just couldn't deal with it. Yeah. I couldn't deal with, it just wasn't the right time. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, I'm with you. I'm just, I'm, yeah. I think feeling cluttered we're talking about like, yeah.

That's it though, isn't it? It's, there's always, someone told me once, maybe this was when my kids were little, I said, you know, the reality of life is we're either coming out of a storm or going into one. I don't love that quote. I don't love that. I don't love that quote. Yes, there's some truth in it as far as there's always a lot, a lot, there's a lot going on in life.

I think there's some truth to it, but I think more than anything, it's just the reality of life is like being on the ocean, right? Mm-hmm. There's just ups and downs. There's waves, but we, but we get to be. We get to be alive. Yeah. It's part of human experience. So a lot of times, even with, with my female clients, a lot of times the response is they're emotionally kind of dumping.

Like, here's something big that's happened this week, or we always start with the wins. What's the win? Like, what's a win? You wanna really celebrate from the goal sex. Okay, so if you're feeling like mental. Shit show, right? Yeah. In your head. Yes. And which makes it hard to navigate business. 'cause what's happening is like you're getting more and more techs.

Yeah. And more and more, you know what I mean? Yes. You're just feeling like scattered. Mm-hmm. Especially if you're a high achiever, you're also training for a marathon, I'm sure, right? Yes, exactly. High Rock, who knows something or bodybuilding. Yes. Aren't you? Possibly, maybe. Mm-hmm. Considering, considering, yeah.

But you're doing my latest tan makes things a little more defined, so, oh no, I'm. I'm like, what's your arm routine? Could you please send that to me? Okay. Thank you. They're looking good. You. Thanks. I've been working on it. Yeah, and I can see it in your shoulders too. Oh good. Thank you. I know you pointed 'em out yesterday, but I was like, no, they really look good.

Oh, well thanks so much. I'm, I'm just gonna touch 'em. Yeah, it's nice and just like that. It's like even in every day. It's nice to, it's nice for you to point that out for me. No, it's nice for us to point that they do look really good. And same thing, just even in business. Like, do you want me to take a picture?

Yeah, sure. Satan, I swear. And my trainer, Jordan, shout out to Jordan, but it's like, okay, so I'm, I'm feeling this way. Yeah. And I think the first step is like, okay, you can recognize it, but how do we move out of that space? That's the thing I call. My triage framework, which is very basic, and I'll just quickly walk through this because this is where most people come, most people come to a call because these are women who are, as you're saying, juggling a lot.

They want to be well in the different ways. They know what it takes to grow big business a lot of the time and. It's clarity on what is my role and what's not. So a lot, most of the calls are coming to, everyone fills out a form beforehand, answers about five or six questions. So when we get on the call, we get right to it.

I do 30 minute sessions every so often. We'll bump it to 45, but I want those 30 minutes to feel like the best fricking 30 minutes of their week. 'cause they come, they can emotionally dump a few things and the winds. The challenges so much going on and we start with, so triage my nursing background.

Yeah. First we want to assess what's going on. Okay. What is, what is, what is it here that we really, what's at the core of this problem, of this, of this chaos? Is it a personnel thing? Is it, is it a identity with how you're feeling about yourself? What is it? So we assess and that's when we just kind of look at.

You know what's, what's really going on. Secondly, we prioritize. We see what needs to be prioritized, what is really, if we didn't do anything else, what is something that we can focus on and prioritize that when this shifts. Your nervous system will calm down. And that's kinda the stop the bleed, right?

Assess, stop the bleed. And then the third part is stabilize. This is where we bring in the alignment piece. You know, if you know me, talk about alignment, talk about clarity. If we can get aligned before we go do the action, everything else falls into place. It's like our northern star. I'm gonna push back here a little bit, please.

So, alignment mm-hmm. Is really one of those terms online where it's like, you know, you hear it used so much. Mm-hmm. If you're just in alignment, you know, it kinda reminds me of the buzzword manifestation and, oh gosh. Yeah. Good point. Just kinda overused. Mm-hmm. No, I'm just curious. 'cause people are like, if you're in alignment, it just.

Flows together. Right. So to me, sometimes when people are like, get alignment, it's very, very fluffy. That's a, that's a good point. It actually gets used a lot in the, in the world of, I mean, I know you're not that person, you know, so. Right. I would love, just for people listening, let's do that. Or watching, like when you say alignment, like what does that really mean?

Mm-hmm. Alignment is number one, knowing what's most important to you at the end of the day. Why is it that you're doing what you do and why does it even matter? So you're absolutely right. Alignment is used in a lot of different ways. Like, I'm gonna hold this, maybe a crystal or something, it's gonna bring me into alignment.

Different than what we're talking about here. Yeah. But when we're really clear on this is why I am doing it, this is what it means to me, and. I know that I have the right people in my corner and I have the right strategies in place. Then we go, it's in the, it's not any different than I want to get in shape and become a runner.

Okay. Not aligned out there. So many different ways we could happen. Mm-hmm. I could become a runner. I could decide to go to Africa and just jump out a Africa, go jump out of a safari vehicle and you'll find me running because I'm gonna be running from something like There's not clear. Yeah. It's not clear at all.

Right. Maybe not the best analogy, but like running. Okay. But if I decide I want to do a half marathon, all of a sudden there's alignment. Okay, I wanna do a half marathon. Why do I wanna do a half marathon? Why did you wanna do a half marathon? Just. To prove that I could do it. Yeah. You know, to prove that you could do it to knowing that you would grow in that process.

It's so much is the journey. Mm-hmm. All of the growth was the training. Mm-hmm. It wasn't running the half marathon. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, it was almost like the half marathon had nothing to do with it. Almost like that was the fun thing at the end. Right? Yeah. It was the celebration because you were aligned.

You had a plan. Mm-hmm. You had some support so that your plan you knew was doable. You might not have even had to know all the details of why Dr. Steve who helped you with your plan, I believe. Yeah. Steve's been awesome. Yeah. So maybe why he said, do this, but you didn't know, but you did it. Yeah. Because you were aligned, you knew the outcome.

You knew why it was important to you and you had to in your corner to guide you. You know, this is interesting. I'm all therapy 1 0 1 on the couch. Come on. Is one of the things after I ran that, 'cause I did cry a little as I crossed the finish line. Mm. I don't blame you. Plus. Right before the finish line, I have to tell you Carmi, she had drove down.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. So Carmi was there. And then all my friends, you know, so all my friends, all the girls that work for like Cindy was there, Jess was there. Jess had fallen in from New Mexico. Mm-hmm. You know, my mom, my sister, my husband, my kids like those really, really important people in my life Mm.

Were there. And I was like, how cool is that? Amazing? And they were so excited for me. Yes. But when I crossed that finish line, I was like, I am so proud of myself. And I have to tell you, that's one of my favorite things about like sobriety and running. Yeah. Is when I look in the mirror, I'm like, I'm so proud of you.

Mm-hmm. Like, who the hell are you? I love that. That's so good. Yep. So that's really the alignment is like, I wanna do things that are hard. Mm-hmm. You know, just to even. I mean, is that messed up to say I just wanna really make myself proud? No, absolutely. I wanna live a life where, where I'm like, I'm really proud of all the things I've done, and if it was only for you crossing the finish line, it still could be great.

But yes, it made you proud, but you also know that. You showed others. It's possible. Yeah. You know, your daughter or son, husband all saw? Mm-hmm. Oh, people that matter the most. These guys are all like, we're gonna do the 10 k next year. I wanna see 'em put, you know, their money, where their mouth is, but yeah.

Okay. On the podcast live, is it happening? Cindy? Cindy's ran a 10 K before. Yeah. I just have to do it again. Sign up. Mm-hmm. She didn't train though. Really? I think if you train, it makes. Yeah, a huge difference. Like your body doesn't hurt, you know, you feel good, you know when you wanna, like, if you want a little snack, you know, all the things.

Yeah. That, and that's it. It's having, it's having a plan. Yeah. It's having a plan and not a perfect plan, but having a plan that you know is going to get you to that result. Yeah. So that's, that alignment is like in, in, in business when we. Are clear on what, what we shared initially and then we layer on the values.

Like there's a part of you that probably loved the adventure. You didn't just do a 10 K here. You did, or 10 K. You didn't do a race here. You did a race in Vegas. Mm-hmm. A fun, wild lights of Vegas like you do. It's really cool to run down the strip at night. Have you done it? Yes. No. Are you? I mean, a few times when I was like, it was late and I was a little afraid of who was out.

Oh, and I maybe had a drink or two. I was like, were we drunk back in the day? No, I have not run down this trip. Yeah, no, I have not. It's really cool 'cause they close everything down and even though there's lots of people around yelling and stuff mm-hmm. It's quiet. Wow. Because there's no cars, no traffic.

It's one of the most, I felt very safe, surreal fillings. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. There's police everywhere too. Mm-hmm. So you made an, you made it an experience. Mm-hmm. And I think that's, that's it. So just as we shared. Sometimes we want to do something, but we haven't signed up for it yet. Yeah. Which similar, we can wanna grow business, but until we say, I'm putting my money where my mouth is.

Mm-hmm. And I'm going to have. A coach in my corner. Someone in my corner that's can guide me to that. That's the All right hold. I'm gonna hold you to the fire. Not just in a, just accountability. That's a part of it with what I do, but it's, I'm gonna make sure you're feeling aligned in the process.

Sometimes we need to adjust. Someone might start out wanting to do a a half and then decides, act. Act. Actually, I wanna do a bodybuilding competition. They might shift maybe the goal sometimes. Oh, yeah. And there's different seasons too. Mm-hmm. You know? Right. If we're just using our exercise analogies here Yes.

Because they're going really well. That is yes. It is. I used to love to go to like spin and group classes and things. Mm-hmm. And then I realized like I didn't love that anymore. Mm-hmm. But I wasn't like that. It's bad or anything. I was like, I just like the solitude Yes. Of, you know, having time for myself, which that means it's in enlightenment with me.

I know. It's so true. Oh my gosh. You just shifted the strategy. Yeah. So the strategy, that part. That's what we get to play with. Like the how is always flexible, but you know, I'll say this a lot. Have you heard me say it? The how is not up to me? Mm. Yes. I've heard you say something doesn't so good. Yeah.

And even then too, it's like, well, how's it gonna happen? And, you know, if I can shift my thinking even to like, who, who's gonna help me? Mm. I say the same thing. Maybe we learn this from each other. Maybe I learned this from you. I say just move the, move the letters around. Mm-hmm. Instead of how, who it usually is, who do I need to partner with?

Who else? Yeah. Might know a better way to do this. And it's not like, how's, how are we gonna do it? And I think once you take your mind off of that, like not. You know, it's a huge, huge mental shift. It really is. Yeah. Okay. So we're feeling super cluttered. We are getting into an alignment. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So we're I loved our little side quest there about alignment.

Yeah. I mean, exercise analogies just seemed to always Well, and you know, for business too, there's been, I've had a lot of, I've called shiny objects syndrome or side quests. Mm-hmm. I call them side quest. Side quest is good. Yeah. Where I'm like, we went on a side quest and we were gonna start a substack, you know, like.

Stuff like that. And I'm like, what the hell is this doing for my business? Mm-hmm. It's like you wake up and you're like, what am I doing? Yeah. You know, creative and so it, it's stuff like that too where you're like, this is out of an alignment of my actual goals in life. And sometimes your goals too. Like, you know, I did read a book recently that didn't sit well with me.

It was all monetary, you know, it was like, don't do anything else except for this goal. You know, eliminate everything else that isn't gonna. Help you hit that, like whatever your monetary goal was, so let's say it's a million dollars, you don't do anything outside of that. And I was like, I don't like that at the end of the day.

So I think sometimes it can be too rigid because then I'm like, what is it that I actually want in life? And I think that's where someone like you steps in so well. Mm. Where it's like. So, yeah, we wanna make that, we wanna make that bank, right? I wanna take home that cash, but I wanna do it in a way where I'm still enjoying and living my life.

Mm-hmm. Oh, you wanna actually enjoy the process. Yeah. Or, or maybe we wanna donate to charity or whatever your values are, you know? Right. Yeah. It's a lonely road to just buckle down and just go for a dollar sign. Mm-hmm. And I get, I mean, I, I get, there's sometimes different nuances people bring into this kind of an approach, but to me this definitely plays into.

How most entrepreneurs drive, they drive through, through pain and pain's a great driver. Yeah, I'm gonna do this so that I don't, I'm gonna do this to, but then once you get there and you look back, right, what have you done? Who's there cheering on after you crossed the finish line? Mm-hmm. Who's there to say, you know what, you did this well.

Like you talked about your sobriety and your health and growing business while like, you know who's there to say, Hey, I see you. I see you doing this well. How many, like how many more stories like end of life stories also, do we need to hear from people when they say, I just wish I would not have spent so much time on my work.

Our work is important. I mean, a lot of it is defines us in many ways. What we choose to put our time into is so important, but it does not have to be at the expense of us contributing in this world. And first starting here, us our closest circle, our family, but contributing and having growth, you know, like Tony Robbins talks about the six human needs and we've got love contribution, we've got certainty, we've got uncertainty, also known as variety.

Okay. We have also growth. We have. Gonna pause for a second. We can look 'em up. I know. Yeah. I'm like, or did you know? Okay. I'm like, you're gonna have to edit some parts. I usually always are rolling off of my tongue. Okay. But anyways, we have, we have also the two that. You cannot achieve that you cannot experience unless the other four are taken care of, and that's growth and contribution.

So the point being to really be in growth and to really be in contribution, we have to have ways where our needs are being met. We're feeling love and connected. We're feeling certainty and uncertainty. Like we're, we're making sure these are all a part of us. Then when those needs are met, hopefully in the healthiest way.

Then we can really contribute, then we can really be in growth. Like, heaven forbid, that we ever just feel like we've, we've made it, like Andrew and I have a little sign we've probably had since we were first married in our bathroom, wooden sign, and it says and when you get there, never forget where you came from.

It's just, you know, something to think about because I think we'd never wanna feel like we've arrived. I love that. We always wanna feel, and that's, that's it. When we're in growth and contribution. So that being said, in business, yeah, we can just hustle hard. Yeah. But that's why people then come to me later, they're like, Hey, I know what hustle I've like earned big business and and I wanna do this.

Well, yeah, I wanna do this. Well, I love that. No thanks. Okay, so what else would you say is like a really contributing factor? Like when you sit down with people, you're like, okay, so triage. Mm, we've hit like what's authentic? Bring that triage. And I'm generally kind of going over that, but we're just making sure whatever's coming to the table that we are, we're assessing what's really going on here.

Does this have to do with your identity, how you see yourself? Is this a, a strategy? But I will say. Identity is always a part of it. We look at that where I'm looking at what's the state that you're constantly putting your body into even what are you doing first thing in the morning? Like if someone is feeling like, I don't know, my struggle is I don't know if I have what it takes to go to the next level.

I'm looking at, okay, what would it look like to go to your next level in your business? What would the person that achieves that, what would that person be doing first thing in the morning? Okay. Are you, are you doing that? What are you doing? You get up and get into the gym? Are you getting on your phone?

If you ask your me, I do. Get up and go to gym. You do. I know you do. Right? I also do like to scroll for a little bit. Yeah. All Yeah. It's all right. It's alright. But you're getting up and you're moving, you're making things happen. Mm-hmm. And so we're looking at the state. What is your body doing? Are we constantly like hunched over throughout the day or are we holding ourselves well?

Are we challenging ourselves? There's a state and then there's a story that we're telling ourselves. About the situation. Yeah. So I know I did it real yesterday. It's not, we don't suffer because of our circumstance. We suffer because of the story we're telling ourselves about the circumstance. So state and story is 80% of success strategy is 20%.

So when we talk about this triage, what we're assessing right away is what's, what's going on in your life? What's your body physically? How's your physical body? And then what's the story you're telling yourself about this situation? Then we go into prioritizing. Alright, so knowing that before we strategize what needs to be prioritized, what about state and story?

Most of the time it is a strategy, actually all the time. All the time. Honestly, my job is to give them the space to be able to get clear and then people are going home. I putting sticky notes around their bathroom. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, because we have to start reinforcing the new story. The truth.

Really. The truth. Not a woo woo. Like, I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. Gosh darn it. People like me. Like it's not, not weird. Woo woo. It's just I am a woman who prioritizes her health and who has. Everything that she needs to be able to grow big business and impact lives along the way. Something like that.

And I want them repeating it over and over. I want them seeing it. I want them saying it to themselves because it's the truth. We get clear on what is the real truth of who you are. Because the old soundtrack I, I think of it as a, that old CD that you found that you need to scratch up and honestly throw out.

You can't. You have to stop listening to it. The one that says, do I really have what it takes? Can I really do this? So that's in the prioritized part. And then the stabilize that's where I kind of brought in that alignment word. But this is where now we stabilize with a strategy, okay? We've got a strategy to make sure your body and story you're telling yourself is solid.

The languaging that's coming out of your mouth or that's in your head is in. What you tell your best friend. Mm-hmm. Now let's a clear, get clear. What if you're not a very nice person and you just tell your best friends mean things, then I would not know what to do with you. I'm sorry, you're like fired.

Straight to gel. Yes. Yes. Straight fired. So, so that would be to stabilize and get the strategy in is like, honestly that part just like you flows to, so what you're telling me is you really need to like stabilize your life before you move into any sort of strategy. Oh yeah. Yeah. It really is, and it's true.

Like you gotta clean up your space. Mm-hmm. You know, you gotta clean up all that clutter. We're cleaning up the mental space, honestly. You're absolutely right. Bringing this back around to clutter, high achieving women. They've proven themselves in so many ways, but when they're honest and they kinda zoom out, they're like, I have so many thoughts running through my head, and as feminine, beautiful, gifted feminine beings that we are, we're so freaking creative.

Yeah, we're so creative. We'll take something. Simple and make it beautiful, won't we? Mm-hmm. We'll take an old tank top from our grandma and we'll turn it into some piece of artwork. Amazing. We're gonna curate these outfits. Do that. We would, you're gonna come over and you're gonna help me. We're doing it.

Put this on the calendar. We're taking ground wardrobe and we're making it like, like Gen Z is gonna be. Oh yeah. Wanting it, right? Mm-hmm. So in the same way we can get, we get so creative sometimes with our problems, which is the problem. We can take something that feels so heavy and if we don't have clarity, if we don't have someone in our corner to help us just break it down, then that thing we get so creative with why that is holding us back when.

What if it doesn't have, what if that's not it? What if we just need to get, what if it is that we just need to get clear on who we are? That's the alignment part. And it's kind of just that basic question too, is sometimes you need to sit back and be like, what does Samantha actually want? Mm-hmm. What does Janelle actually want?

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Because if not, you're we're going on side quests. Yes, it's so true. And our values to know what is it we value. Mm-hmm. Like there's one of my clients if she's this, when she listens, she'll know it's her and her three values. Just call her out. No, I'm just kidding. Not, well, not this time, no.

Okay. This is, this is the hard part sometimes of what I do. If someone shouts me out online, I feel like, okay, I can say it. Yeah. But if not, I always wanna keep that confidentiality. But I know I always tell my clients when they're on podcasts. I'm like, if you need to reference someone, yeah. Just reference me.

Okay. 'cause whatever. There you go. Okay. I'm just teasing you. Anyways, but she's, she's amazing. Okay. We're keeping in her hipaa. Yeah. This is HIPAA compliant. It's a HIPAA compliant podcast. You wouldn't feel I gave up my nursing licensure, so I can say whatever I want. Okay, so her main values, I. She values freedom.

We had got real clear, this is probably just maybe majority of our session one time, got super clear on her values and this shifted a lot for her. She would tell you she values freedom. She's in the real estate space, you know, makes sense. You're in real estate, like you're not gonna be a high certainty person, you know, ebbs and flows.

She values freedom, she values wellness, and she values integrity. You might just hear that and say, yeah, me too, whatever. Why does that matter? Of course, I value free, but those three are her, her main drivers, so when we're setting goals for her to go next level in business, I better make darn sure that the strategies are all aligned with freedom.

Wellness. Yes. And integrity. Yeah. It's like she better have time to make sure she's taking care of herself. Mm-hmm. And when that, it's like, it's kind of like those are all three, three candles. Yeah. When those candles are lit, then we can really roll. Then that produces the heat. It's like a what? I mean, it's like a hot air balloon or something.

Or it's like those little German Christmas things that you'd light the candles and the thing goes around what? Okay. Somebody knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. You light the candles and the Yeah. Is the lighting, they're amazing. Oh, are lighting shit on fire? I'm in girl. No, but somehow the wood doesn't catch on fire, but it's just the right amount of heat.

Okay. To create movement. Yeah. So in the same way, oh, another killer metaphor, in the same way we are killing it, the heat for those, like that's produced from those three candles that are lit from those values produces that heat to get things moving. Because if. If I'm, if I'm talking variety to somebody, if I'm talking freedom, think of how much time and space and right now in their life, they need more certainty and they need stability and maybe structure that Language is And structure, yeah.

That language is not gonna land if we need to work on their systems. That's the language that's coming in, because I'm one of those people who's like bizarrely accountable. You know, when people are like, I need accountability. I'm like, why? Why wouldn't you just do it? Mm. You know? So it's like you have to kind of know like what's gonna work for you.

Mm-hmm. You have to have know what the leverage Yeah. The leverage that matters. Like if you were telling me, I'm gonna hold you accountable, I would be like, you're annoying. Mm, mm-hmm. You know? Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. People will say, you know, I love they'll, I don't mind being called out, but mm-hmm.

Yeah, I, I'm totally with you. So commonly people will say, you know, it's so funny, it's so silly. It almost seems like, I can't believe I'm even saying this, but me filling out the pre-call coaching form. Is actually so important to me because I have to actually write down the wins and I'm actually sharing, and it gives me a little space before our call, usually the day before where I go, okay, yeah, look at what I just ca what?

Look what I just knocked outta the park and yeah, this is a challenge that's in front of me. Or, you know what, no, that's not actually the challenge actually. It's this, and so it's, it's great to be able to, that's for that accountability right there of knowing they're gonna show up. Yeah. And fill that out before our calls is, is great accountability.

I'm not, I'm not going through a list. And how are you doing with this? Mm-hmm. And when's the last time you drank? Yeah. And when's it's, you know, but it's knowing that so that we can move forward. It was May 20th, 2024. Okay. Yes. Love that. You're welcome. 5 20 24. Does that help? Think it was 24. Yeah. 'cause we just went through 25.

Yeah. 24. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. Yeah. So I think that's, that's it. That's beautiful. I spent a lot of, I spent all of my hard earned babysitting and pizza earning money. Pizza shop money and high school and boxing unboxing. Oh, fun. Yeah. I, and like lip glosses and stuff. At, at, you know what teenage girls like to do Lip.

That was probably lip smackers. Did you ever get caught shoplifting at Claire's? No. Okay. Did I shoplift or did I get, did I get caught? Just kidding. Neither. Neither. I do that. But I got really into boxing. The reason I bring this up is I just chuckle like God's humor sometimes. Right? Yeah. It's like I, I love, I've always loved the gym.

Even when I was young, I was like, how old do I have to be to be able to work out with your dad? You know? And then he was 13, then I turned 13 and they changed to 15. Anyway, it was very disappointing. You still still got, yeah. Okay. And so later when I was in high school at my, like my junior and senior year, there was a semi-pro boxer at the gym and you could do special classes with him.

Paris Powell. Okay. Anyway, set my money on that and I really got into boxing's, and I love, even to this day if there's like a good boxing match, like watching boxing. Yeah. But the reason I say that is I feel so strongly that I get to be in the ring with people. I'm not the, I'm not the hero. I'm not the one that's in there knocking 'em out in a good.

Well to hear minor high school boxing story. Yes. Let's lean in here to know. Okay, come on. Clearly one of us was more ratchet than the other. Oh, but okay, so you actually got fight. So my high school had this like underground boxing circuit going on. Wow. And the guys were always trying to get girls to box.

Right. Because it was more fun, I think, for them. Yeah, so these boxing part, it was almost like fight club, these boxing parties. In fact, I know it was inspired by Fight Club 'cause I remember the kid who started it. Of course it was that time. It was that era. Yeah. Would just pop up at people's houses, you know.

And I remember one time I told my mom, I was like, Hey, I need you to drive me and drop me off at this house. This is pre-cellphone days too, you know? Oh my gosh. Well, we had like. Remember, do you remember you would get like 15 minutes on your phone or something, like the plan? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. Oh yeah.

It'd be very, people weren't no Yeah. To chitchat. Yeah. You were like, da da da, da. Bye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, oh, that was a minute. Mm-hmm. And then you get the bill and your parents would go through it. You talk to someone for four minutes. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, we just pay. I told my mom.

Yeah. And I'm like, I need you to drop me off at it was Clint. Clint. And. She's like, Clint's house. And she's like, okay. So she's driving me down there, you know, and she's like, why are all these kids here? Luckily, my mom's pretty chill, you know? And I'm like, well, I'm gonna box this girl, Sarah. And she's like, you're gonna box someone?

And I was like, yeah. And she was like, okay, enjoy your night. Oh my gosh. And I remember, I love your mom already. Oh yeah. I remember coming. I don't know if she remembers it, but I mean, I got hit in the face a few times, you know? But like, did she have any boxing experience? No. Okay. No. So fighting. Just fighting basically.

And then after that we started like pop, you know, I would, you know, I, that was the only time I ever boxed. Oh my gosh. Okay. What about leg wrestling? It was, no one won or lost? No. Like it was more like fri. Yeah. It was very friendly, you know? Yeah. But then after that my mom would be like, I don't know if I should drive you to these boxing popups is basically, you know?

That's hilarious. Yeah. So just thought you should know that. Do you wanna leg wrestle after the podcast? No. 'cause you would flip me so fast. Oh, I don't have it down. I don't know. Okay. Well, I don't have it down at all. Okay. I'd have to work on my technique. There is a box, a boxing thing upstairs maybe, but just for pictures.

We'll have do that later. Yeah. But just so you know, that was my boxing experience. Yes. Okay. I love it. You are one of us. Yeah. Well, no, I'm not. You're just from the south side or whatever they say I was from, I was from the Upper East side of Lynden, Utah. Right, right, right, right. That's funny. I was, I was east, I was exactly east of you.

I feel like childhood though, was a little more ratchet back in the day, you know? Mm-hmm. I remember I would call, like you'd end up somewhere and you'd need a ride home and I'd call collect and be like, I'm at da da da da dah. Yes. And then you'd hang up. Yes. So the call didn't go through. I did that in Costa Rica whenever I wanted my parents to call me 'cause they had the call planned to call me.

Yeah. So I had a way of some, some word I would say, or I said a name call is from, and it was like, well, and you could get away with stuff too. You'd be like, oh yeah, we're over at so-and-so's house and you know, yeah. And now people can track you yesterday. Oh, I'm watching my son ride around on his bike.

That's how crazy I am. Yeah. So for an example, this afternoon, Andrew is, is traveling, which by the way, was this just like a guy thing. He. They, they flew him out first class for this event that he's at, and I'm like, oh my gosh, take some fun pictures. In first class, he sends me all these pictures of like, just his feet in the cup and the snack that he's eating.

I'd be like taking selfies and like, you know, living it up. Anyway, so he's a. He's traveling and he sent me a screenshot like, what are you doing over at Radiant Waxing? And I said, not at Radiant Waxing. You're at degree? I'm met degree, yeah. I'm at degree doing my cryotherapy. So yeah. That's so funny. We used to be able to just be out and nobody tracked us.

And now we have like spouses like, what are you, are you doing? So it's backfired, right? So, one time me and my husband, we were out just Jeeping, you know how you can just jeep out here on the public lands? Yeah. You and I both know 'cause we got. Yeah, we got the Jeep. Jeep. Yep. Yeah. But Jake and I were out here on the Arizona Strip and it was like midnight.

Okay. You know, we were like, probably had parked, we were talking Oh yeah. Doing, making out and we're married, so, you know, we did the whole shebang. It's okay. Yeah, we did the whole shebang. Okay. Yes. And then we were driving back and I was like, I'm, let's go get burgers. So then we drove all the way over to Freddy's, and this point it's like midnight.

You know, and my daughter, we get home and she's standing in the kitchen with her arms crossed, and she's like, you two, what have you two been doing all night? You were out there on the desert then you were at Freddy's. Oh my gosh. She's like, are you guys doing drugs? We were like, what? That is funny. She was in the kitchen, like arm, like she was She been watching?

Probably watching, yeah. Yeah. Whole story that was building, which I don't blame her. She, she didn't know. You didn't tell her. You tell where you're gonna be, what you gonna be doing? Look, what else was she gonna be thinking? Yeah, I didn't think at that time she was like 16 or 17. Oh, that's funny. You know, and we were both like.

None Your business. Yeah. But thanks for caring. That was wild. She was like lit up. Oh, that's so funny. It was so funny. I'm like, oh my gosh, Jake. That's so great. Mm-hmm. Is there a metaphor for this maybe we can bring in to our conversation? So funny. GPS. When you have a coach, you have someone who can track your every move in a creepy way.

I mean, don't worry guys, let's get you into the marketing messaging world for sure. Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah. Like your GPSI know what you're doing. Mur. Murr. Yes. I love it. It's okay. Janelle this is a question I wanted to ask you, and I don't know why, but what do you feel like is your life's greatest achievement?

My greatest achievement is. Definitely my kids and my husband, relationship with my husband, and I think just how I love my people Yeah. Is honestly my greatest achievement. My kids are all teens and I mean, everyone thinks their kids are, you know, amazing, but they really are amazing. They give back.

They're just, they're awesome humans and have a close relationship with them. And you know, early on when my, when Andrew and I, we started out, we married 21 years and kinda in the beginning as we started out in business, we had some really great mentors and I do feel like they gave us, I know they gave us wonderful advice as far as some lifestyle things.

So make sure we're doing this with our kids. We chose to homeschool for 10 years. This is the first year my kids are, Oh really? So like your kids didn't go to like elementary school. Nope. After first grade. So before we did foster care and adopted two of our four kids. Yeah. Our kids were in first grade in kindergarten, and after that school year we're like, ah, for a couple different reasons.

We thought, Nope, we're, we're homeschooling. We, this is a, this is the path we're supposed to take. Never thought I would, I was looking forward to having time off. Yeah. That's why I was, my gosh nope. Decided to homeschool. And so we homeschooled a few and then a few years later adopted Rose and Ella. And how old were they when you adopted them?

They were six and seven. Oh, wow. Yeah. Actually the same for your two year sobriety. Your two year sobriety, it'll be exactly. It's 11 years since they moved in with us. That's incredible. So, yes, they moved in in May. And then, I dunno if you wanna talk about this, but Sure. When you had planned on fostering, um mm-hmm.

Were, was it temporary or, okay, so I'll back up. 'cause I mentioned Safari earlier, like random analogy kind of. But when Andrew and I were in Kenya. On a safari trip. We earned it through our work. It was crazy. One of these things, it was, we were just meant to be there because by any other rules, how did we earn this?

I mean, we did, we had huge business growth that year, and our kids were little at the time, they were at mean two and maybe four. And so we're on this trip, this bougie, bougie trip. Also, 50% of the time was bougie trip. Other 50% of the time was working in the. World's second or third largest slum in Nairobi, Kenya.

And during that time, I felt a super strong call to adopt. Now, Andrew has always wanted to adopt. His father was adopted when he was Oh, that's cool. When he was little, my dad was adopted. What's really? Mm-hmm. Okay. I love those adoption. Yeah. Shared stories. So he had always wanted to and my. Standpoint was I, I think that's great for certain people, and I've not felt that for me.

But in that moment during that trip, it was like, oh my gosh, we're supposed to adopt. So fast forward, the timing was not then ended up being about three years later because this is, it was, it's always God's way. It's God's way, man. Yep. So we pursued international adoption. Closed door, closed door, put it on the back burner December, 2015.

I'm at the gym with my neighbor's daughter. I'm like, Hey, you're home from college, what's going on? And she said, well, our neighbors, or she said, my parents have two foster girls that they just brought in. And I thought, okay. That's interesting. Yeah, because Andrew and I had recently decided that Foster was gonna be our route and heard more about the story.

Long story short, that was Ella. Oh, cool. Our neighbors had the girls they were just empty nesters, wanted to be able to foster and give back and. And that was it. So they're right across the right, across the ditch. The kids would run across the little ditch that we had there and pretty quickly I knew there's something, there's something here.

The only girls we ever fostered were Ella, and so that was December. So then I guess they ended up needing like permanent homes. Yes. And they knew, we knew at that time they were gonna be needing permanent homes. So, you know, I mentioned December, so exactly six months later that they moved in with us.

Yeah. And we were still under the foster umbrella. And then it was a year and a half later. Rights were terminated pretty quickly after they moved in, but you know, just, it's a whole process. Yeah. Year and a half later on National Adoption Day, November 17th, 2017 we officially adopted them. That's amazing.

I know. It was so amazing. And you know what's crazy? This is crazy. Let's bring it back to another awesome God story. I feel like we need like a little, like gospel mm-hmm. Interlude in here. We found out right before adoption that we, because you get big stack of papers, I mean, all their paperwork so much, just their story.

We found out that the week when the, when the kids were first, the girls were first taken out of their homes and put into foster care. I cannot tell the story without crying. Ugh. Oh, sorry. No, you're okay. It's just hitting me hard today. Ah, came outta nowhere. Okay. So what we found out is that was the same week that we were in Africa.

Oh really? Yeah. So I just think about like you knew Oh, I think about, yeah. I mean it was just the week when, when we felt that call to adopt, like, or to when we felt the call to foster, kind like gather myself. Oh my gosh. Sometimes I don't talk about it for a while and then I do, and I get really emotional.

Okay, thank you. So the week, the week that we were in, the week that we were in Africa was the same week. That the girls were first removed from their home and put into foster care. Does that make sense? Yeah. So it's like you're in Africa and all of a sudden you're like, I know we're gonna adopt. Yeah.

Isn't that crazy? Like maybe it was the same minute. I don't know. Yeah, maybe it was the same. I mean, so that was just so crazy because at that point it had been, by the time with adoption 2017, it was five years later. Yeah. Did they have to bounce around for a little bit? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They did bounce around.

Yep. And they would talk about it. I mean, they're just, they're so great. We've talking about it, about it now. They love to say, they love to tell friends sometimes that they first have met. They'll say like two truths and a lie or something. Anyways, they say, well, my parents have never been to the place where I was born.

Oh. Because they were born in another state. Yeah. And we've never been there. So that's really fun. That's cute. Yeah. Sometimes I think I'll be able to tell that story one day without crying, but usually I can't because it's just, it's so intense. Like when you know you have something in your life that don't, you just know, think it's gonna be a part of your story.

Like I thought that was homeschooling for me. But no, it turns out it was actually what we were supposed to do in our, within our family. Yeah. I've told this story a few times, but I thought I was pregnant. Okay. And I knew I was pregnant. Wow. And then, so I'm like down at Target buying like 10 boxes, you know, a pregnancy tests.

And I'm like, what is wrong with this Uhhuh? And I'm like, I'll go see a Doctor Uhhuh, because I was like, I am pregnant. And my husband's like, you're, you know, a head of vasectomy. Like, this isn't how it works, you know? And then when I had my period, I was def I cried. Yes. And I was like, but I didn't wanna have a baby.

I had a 16-year-old and a, you know, it was not baby. Like, let's have more. We were done. Yeah. You know, obviously. Yeah. Vasectomy. And I was like devastated. It was around Christmas time. Hmm. And I have to tell you, I like mourned this fake child I had created. Wow. So my mom, you know, was there at Christmas and she goes, you know, I've gotta tell you something.

I remember my sister had been there. She goes, your sister's pregnant? And I was like, she goes, she doesn't want me to tell you. And I was like, that's the baby. Oh my gosh. Yes. And I, I was like, mom And I like, remember I jumped over the couch and Jake's like. Oh God. 'cause you know, he's been like putting up with this like basically like what he thinks is a psychotic episode.

Right. I even made him go get his vasectomy checked after that. Oh my gosh. And the doctor, the, he said, the doctor was like, this happens all the time. It's fine. There's the cup. You know, he's like, wife send their husbands in all the time because they're convinced, you know? Yeah. And I was like, no, I knew I was pregnant in my soul.

Full body chills. I could see this, this little boy, you know? But then I'm like, well, my sister isn't living here. She's living in Nebraska, and I know that she's not, you know, I know she's kind of dicking around. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not like, I don't mean that literally, I just mean like, what are you doing with your life?

Okay. You know? Gotcha. And a few months in. That's why I was like, that sounds bad. She wasn't like that at all. She knew the baby daddy is great. He is a great guy. You know, all that. But they weren't together. Yeah. But Jameson's dad's really awesome. Mm-hmm. Which is cool. She's got like a cool situation.

Yeah. But anyways, I'm like, well she's living in Nebraska. This doesn't make any sense. So then I was distraught about that, you know, 'cause I was like, this kid is in our lives. I don't understand it. Mm-hmm. And you know, I remember I'm telling my grandma about it at the time that my grandma. PA was dying.

Mm-hmm. He had brain tumors and they were like, Hey, this is the end of life, you know? But he was still about, but my grandma was like, let's have Mandy come live with us and I will pay her to help me with grandpa. You know, so she ends up having the baby here in St. George while she was living with my grandparents.

Oh wow. Yeah. And you know, you've seen him Jameson. Now he's in our life, like every day lives two streets over from us. And it was boy, before they knew it was a boy. You kind knew in your heart it was a boy. And my sister gets kind creeped out when I tell the story 'cause I'm like, that is my kid. I swear my, you know, obviously it's not like I don't.

Mm-hmm. But it's like twins when they have those kind of feelings sometimes. Sisters, you have that too. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah. That's amazing, isn't it? Yeah. One day we'll see clearly how, we'll, just everything. I've told this story a lot. I think Cindy's probably heard it before too, because I'm like, that was very cool.

Something that I know for a fact. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Yep. I know what you mean. That's so special. So yeah, I get it. All these things that make up our, this mok moac mosaic instead of that mosaic, is that the word you're going for? I'm real educated, I promise you. Oh. You should hear my voice text.

Yes. Mosaic. I'm like, words, words, words. Oh, yes. The mosaic of our lives. It's amazing. It is. It is. Yeah. Because you wouldn't pick, and even just for those that are just a few years younger than us to know we have a plan. And this is, I think, maybe a good thing to bring in as we're like bringing this all together.

A lot of times when we have that struggle, you know, I said it's not just, it's not the struggle. The struggle does not come from the circumstance necessarily. It is the story we're telling ourselves about it. If we really, yes, there's hard situations. Yes, we wanna do our best to make sure we have qualified great people in our lives for our mental health, our physical health, spiritual health, all of that.

But the story we're telling ourselves about it is something to talk about. And so the story that we tell ourselves about it, in thinking about. What it is we want, like the, the conflict comes when our blueprint is not the life circumstance. Like the, the hard thing that's happening right now does not match how we thought it would be.

Would you agree? Yeah. I mean, that's just for all of us having those moments. That's my blueprint was different. I thought I'd be married at this time. I thought I would have this. I thought my business would already be here at this. Oh, for sure. Time. And it's not like that's that conflict. And so that's just where we get to come in and just zoom out.

Yeah, big. Do a big old zoom out and from there just get clear. Yeah. Clear on what really matters. Prioritize what really matters, and recognize that when we get the story, the truth of what's really happening. If we, we have to dig deep sometimes. Okay. Here's the thing though, is sometimes like when you're in it, right, you're in the messy car.

Mm-hmm. Like you can't see it. And I think that's why you've been so. Just like beautiful and helpful for so many people as you're like, Hey, I, you know, I'm sitting in this messy car, it's like sitting in a dirty diaper. Mm-hmm. Like, what? What do I do? Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. Just, and you're like, take it off, not take it off.

And just as it is so much more easy for us to go and help the friend with the messy car, help the friend go through the pile of clothes, help the friend clean out the kitchen, and. Decide what actually makes the most sense for the flow of the kitchen. Like just as it's easier for us to do for someone else than for ourselves that I, the only reason I mention that is this is where you have somebody with you.

That you can have come in and help to say, Hey, don't worry about this, this here. It just needs to be thrown out. Yeah. Or this here, this is obviously special to you. Let's make sure we prioritize it. It's important for us to know that we're not meant to do it on our own. Not 'cause we can't, like we're women, we're capable of creating life and building massive businesses and inspiring people for big, big change.

I mean, we're, we're amazing and on our own is lonely. Yeah. So yes, you have the someone by your side that's meaningful, but when you have someone by your side, that also gets to remind you constantly and bring you back to your center of who you are, what's most important, and be right there to make sure that we're prioritizing what's most important.

That's, that's how we move forward. That's how we get the fire lit underneath us and the movement starts happening, and we're actually enjoying the process. Yeah, want people to enjoy the process. I love that. Okay, so for you guys listening, Janelle is the last episode in the Samantha Parker takeover series.

So end with a big this. I know this will be my, some tears, my final and some tears. This will be my final drop for a little while. 'Cause we've just been doing our podcasts and like series and I've loved it. I've loved it so much. I'm like, Hey, let's talk to this cool group of people because I did the 2026 people to watch.

And those have been my favorite podcasts. So. Great. And then now I've some good ones. Yeah. The Samantha Parker takeover. So it's been really cool. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Yeah. So you're like the tell end. I am. How you feeling about that? I'm feeling like it's like the firecracker at I saved end for last two ACON performance at the end of a two ACON performance.

Yeah. No, no, girl, you're, you're better than Tu Acon. Okay. Well, Disney World or, oh, the World Games. I don't know. Yeah, the Olympics. The Olympics. The Olympics. Let's go big or go home. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So thank you so much for being a part of the takeover. Welcome. And for you're, thanks for sitting on the couch today and sharing your beautifulness.

Thank you. What's your Instagram handle so people can find Joe? It is just Janelle Devlin. Yeah. Pretty easy. Mm-hmm. Janelle devlin.com. Yeah, Janelle Devlin. And what I have on my website right now is a free quiz that people wanna jump on if they're in business, or those of you that, those of you who are in business, you're starting or you.

Already are established. You can jump in, take about 10 minutes, take the quiz. I have four different kind of business archetypes that it puts you in. Are you the connector? Are you the builder? And then from that gives you a free download of, okay, here's how your strengths of this will impact health, relationships, and business.

Here's how the shadow sides, here's some shadow sides to be aware of in your strength in. Your health and your business and your relationships. So that's just free for anyone who wants to jump on and take that on. Janelle devlin.com. Awesome. We'll have that linked in the show notes and just thanks for your time today.

Yes, thank you so much. It's great to be here.