I Cancelled the Contract | Kailey owner of Kéya Salon

What happens when a business opportunity looks perfect on paper... but your gut says no?

In this episode of The Samantha Parker Show, I sit down with returning guest Kailey Graziano, founder of Kéya Salon in St. George, Utah, to talk about one of the biggest business decisions she's ever made.

After nearly signing a contract to open a third salon location across town, Kailey made a surprising pivot. Through prayer, intuition, conversations with her family, and trusting her instincts, she walked away from the expansion and chose a completely different path.

The result?

Kéya Salon is now expanding from 6 chairs to 15 chairs, growing its team to nearly 20 stylists, creating space for future services, and exploring opportunities that may include a day spa and even purchasing the building.

Kailey's story is a powerful reminder that growth isn't always about doing more. Sometimes it's about trusting yourself enough to choose a different path.

If you're a salon owner, entrepreneur, business owner, hairstylist, realtor, working mom, or someone navigating a major life decision, this conversation is packed with insights you won't want to miss.

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Transcript

Hey, guys. Welcome back to the Samantha Parker Show. Drum roll please. We've got Kaylee on for her second appearance. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. You made an appearance in my 2026 People to Watch. I know. I'm so flattered. That w- that was really nice. That's how I feel. That's nice. I was like, "You're kind of a badass."

Imposter syndrome. I know. I don't know why you don't realize, like, how dope you are. I can break down my astrology chart and tell you all of why I don't realize, and I never will. It's- Okay. Well, I'm here for it. Now? I'm also just like, do we need a map? We have a whiteboard. I could draw it out. I don't know if I'm that talented, but-

Okay, well let's circle it back. Welcome to the podcast. Tell me who you are. Tell me what you own. We, we already know, but tell the people. Tell the people. Okay, I am Kaylee Graziano. I am the founder and owner of Kaya Salon here in St. George. Also a realtor, so I also own that business, but Kaya is the focus of the conversation.

I own my kids. I own- You own your kids ... my animals . Well, last time you were on the podcast you were doing a major expansion, and you still are- Different ... but it shifted, and doesn't it feel good? Yeah. Oh my gosh, so good. Yeah, so last time and I was wrestling with that. I mean, you know that- Mm-hmm ... now I'm like I was wrestling with it for a long time.

We sold our house to make it happen. I think we talked about that actually- Mm-hmm, we did ... on the podcast, 'cause I think our home was on the market or getting on the market- Yeah ... or something. 'Cause that podcast is the one where you're like, "Remember you told me don't be so dramatic, you own a car." Yeah . You can live in your car.

Well, I mean, you know, who knows what the future holds. But for now we have a roof over our head. Yeah, so we were gonna expand over into another development across town. It was gonna be super cool. I was gonna be in with the cool people. My ego loved that idea. It was gonna be super expensive. My ego kinda loved that idea.

Mm-hmm. That's sick, but it di- you know, there's like something I think that you're like, "I can do it. Okay, I'm doing it." But I was really wrestling with it. So we ended up... Well, do you want the whole st- do you want the quick- Yeah. No, we want the whole story ... snapshot on that? I mean, I was like, I was praying about it, I was meditating on it, I was asking, you name it.

I was asking them what they thought. Like, "Would somebody tell me what to do?" My, like, insecurity is coming up and I'm like, "Ah, what do I, what do I do?" And in my mind I had it that it would be something that could he- really help us succeed, like it would take us to that next level. Mm-hmm. Or it was gonna fail us.

Like, it was like one or the other. I actually ended up calling a friend who does card readings, like tarot readings. Oh. Did I tell you this? No, but- Yeah ... in my head I was like, "I wonder if she reached out to a psychic." You know when you're just trying to get- Yeah ... any outside answer because you- Oh, that's what I was doing

already know the answer. Yeah. I know. It totally. Yeah. I just needed it, like, confirmed, right? Mm-hmm. By somebody else. Oh, I need validation all the time. All the time. Validation is the antidote. So I called my friend. She doesn't do tarot readings. Like, nobody knows this, but she's actually really good at it.

So she lives up in Alpine. I called her and we did like a FaceTime tarot reading. And I don't, I don't know how to do tarot. Like, I've, like, played around with, like, angel cards, but that's kind of the lame- But you can open a book and read the page. Yeah, I can do that, but she's really good at it. And so she had like a few decks of cards- And I like picked this like really red, like gothic looking one.

And she's like, "Okay, that one though, Kaylee, it's not like soft sweet messages. Like that one's gonna slap you in the face." I'm like, "I wanna be slapped in the face." Jesus. I want to be told what to do. And the cards were literally like, like thr- being thrown out and they were all upside down besides one.

It was so like crazy. If you know anything about tarot, like when they're upside down, it like really, you really need to hear this message. Mm-hmm. So ultimately what the reading said was, "It's not gonna like be the thing that succeeds you. It's not, but it's also not gonna fail you. You can do it. You will, you will have success.

You can do it as long as you build the systems." And my ego needed to know that. Like my ego needed to know, okay, I can do this if I want to, because that's the message I kept getting was, "Well, do you want to do it? Because you can if you really want to." And I'm like, "I don't know." Yeah. Anyways, it sa- so basically it was like, "You can do this.

It's not gonna fail you. It's not gonna launch you to the moon. However, your energy body will resent it, and you will regret it, because it will pull you away from motherhood." And this is like when I get emotional. Dang it. Oh, they have tissues in this room. Oh, well, that's fine. I'll, I'll, I'll try to hold it together.

Cindy's got 'em ready. But you know, as a mom of three kids, and my kids are, my boys are 10 and 11, they're upgrading this summer. And then Josephine, my daughter, is six. And so they're like in that age where like they need me, and the, and it's only gonna like... Ugh, damn it, I'm getting emotional again. Can I say damn it?

Yeah, I could say fuck it if you want to. I don't wanna sa- you've said fuck before. Yeah. Okay. That's right. Good. Safe space. Jesus. So anyways, I ended up, if you know anything about human design, my boys are both manifesting generators. And so for them it's like if whatever they're supposed to do, it's a gut reaction.

So it's like an aha or an uh-uh. They don't know this. They're 10 and 11, but I know this. And so I picked up my middle son from school and I asked him like, "Hey, I'm gonna ask you a question and I want your first reaction, like yes or no." And they know all of our business. I'm like, "Should we expand into, or, like, and open up a third salon, or should I cancel it?"

And G- and Giovanni was like, "Uh-uh." And I was like, "Okay, why?" And he said, "Because you'll be gone twice as much." And I'm like, "Okay. Ugh." That'll get your mom heart. Yeah. So then an hour later I went and picked up Abel, and the same exact thing. I said, "I'm gonna ask you a question. I need your first gut reaction.

Give me, like, a yes or a no." And he said, "Uh-uh." And I said, "Okay, why?" And he said, "Because you'll be even busier." And I was like, "Okay, done." So, you know, fortunately for us, the way that our contract was written with the development is we had to hit a capital benchmark, and we barely hit it with the selling of our home because we had some things that we had to pay back.

And so by the time I continued to pay some other things back, I could truthfully say, "Hey, we didn't hit our contingency." I mean, you know, if I, if I really wanted to, I could have, like, waited to pay things back. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like, you can move money around and play with it. But I had, like, a legal standing to be like, "Hey, we did not make it."

And so then we canceled the contract, sent the email the next morning- Wished them the best, and that was it. And now, yeah, now we've expanded, So instead of going across town, you just basically have the whole building now. I know. You know, it's crazy. It, yeah, that's kind of what's happening. I, I mean, and it's wild to see.

Like, it'll be fun to see how, what the future holds, 'cause we started in a little tiny, small space up there. Mm-hmm. And we threw a ton into it. Like, it was really in my mind like a proof of concept. Like, and we started with nobody. Like, it was me and my assistant, and then we hired one more girl, and we sat around, like, waiting for the phone to ring.

And now we have 20 stylists. We're interviewing more right now, and have an apprentice coming on board with us. So we went from six chairs to now 15, and then we got an opportunity that we might be opening up a day spa next summer right downstairs- Mm-hmm ... because the current one, there's just like a little shimmy going on in the building.

So we'll see. Nothing's set in stone yet. Things can change, but yeah, I told the landlord, I'm like, "Okay, well tell me when AT&T goes and I'll take over that spot, too." And he's like, "Well, maybe I'll just sell you the building." I'm like, "Oh yeah, let's talk about that." And he's like, "Okay, Kayley." You're like, "No, really."

I'm like, "No, I'm serious." Yeah. You're like, "I don't know how this works." Yeah. So we just plant little seeds and see what grows, but- Yeah ... yeah. I love what you've done with the expansion though, so, 'cause you had the six chairs and then you were gonna go across town, and now you're just, like, across the hall.

I'm literally across the hall. It's in the same building. My kids will all be at two of my kids currently are at the school that's like two blocks away. All of my kids will be there next year and going forward. Can they walk over there? Yeah. Like, they've walked to the s- to the salon before after work.

That's so nice. I know. I just need an office. I don't have an office yet. That's like kind of a fun childhood memory though, like- Right? Well, 'cause we used to always walk to the gas station. Yeah. 'Cause you guys, there's that gas station right there. Yeah. That's kind of a cool older one, and it's got a Mexican restaurant in it- Yeah

that everybody loves. It's a great Mexican restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone loves it. Mm-hmm. So that's kind of cool they can walk, come up and see you. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, no, it feels really good. And like, for me, like, I just get, I get to be a mom, but I get to still create and build businesses, because I could never be one or the other.

Like, I have to be, I wanna be both. Like, I g- I give it all to the stay-at-home moms and the moms that only wear that hat. Well, I shouldn't say only, 'cause that's a huge hat to wear. Mm-hmm. I am not built that way. Like- Yeah, a lot of women aren't ... I would lose my mind. Yeah, I have to have outlets, and so it's super fun being able to just, like, connect and build and grow.

There was a few times when my kids were really little, like, Keaton was, like, two or something, when I didn't have a job, just here and there, you know? Mm-hmm. And I remember I would like, "Oh, I'll make them Pinterest meals." Pinterest was brand new too, you know? So I'd like, do little cookie cutters in the boxes.

Cute ... and, but I didn't know what else to do with my time. Yeah. You know? So I was like, "Well, I'll become obsessed- I mean, love ... with our diet. We'll only eat things that have five ingredients or less." And, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Watch a bunch of documentaries. Yeah. Yeah, and just, I, but I didn't know what I was doing with my life.

Yeah. I think, you know, I, I think- Arguably, I would say all of us, but you know, on the, to err, err on the safe side, we'll say most of us, we're creators. Like, that's why we're here is to create, you know? And whatever that looks like to you, I think if to not be in a mode of creation of some sort can get really Boring, depressing- Oh

heavy, dark, you know? For sure. I even need, like, creative space. Yeah. Where I'm like, I just have to have the space to think. Yeah. Even this morning, I was, like, at my desk at 5:30. I'm just at home, and, like, 5:30 to about 7:00, I was like, I just need this creative thinking time. Yeah. It was really cool. I sh- wish I, I'd pull out my notebook and show you what I've- Mm

come up with. Fun. You'd be like... You would get it. A lot of people- I would ... would be like, "What is this?" Pull it out. Where's the notebook? It's in my office, but yeah. You know, you have to have that space. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this might get your mom strings. Maybe I'll cry first if you want to- Okay ... so we can both cry.

All right, go. My oldest moved out last week. Oh, yeah. How are you doing? Actually really well. I would say that day was really hard. Okay. Like, I sobbed, like, hysterically, and my husband's like, "What has happened," you know? And I was like, "Her boxes are gone." He was like, "What are you talking about?" He's like, "Yeah, she was coming to get them-

and, like, you know, we had them by the door." Yeah. You know? She was supposed to get them. Yeah, so that was kinda hard, but then we... Now we have two rooms that are open in our house. Mm. So we turned the one room back into a guest room, and the room that was hers is actually the front. It's, like, a front office.

Okay. And I just, you know, I cleaned it really good this weekend- Yeah ... and put my desk. Fun. We have this really cute brown little curvy desk. Fun. And I'm like- So you're making it an office space? Yeah, it's my little vibe room. Oh, we just nest. Mm-hmm. Where, but where is she? She's still local, right? Yeah, so my God, she's just in student housing.

Okay. Yeah, so she's- Like a block- ... like, six minutes away ... from here, yeah. Yeah. That's so nice. Yes. I called her, like, five times the first night, and it was funny 'cause I had her on speaker, and my son, he's like, "Mom won't stop crying," and I was like, "Don't tell her that." No, that's sweet. I think I have a feeling my boys, when they go, 'cause they're really close, and they're a year apart, they'll go at the same time.

Ooh. And they'll probably... Like, I really envision them, like, going on, being some, like, vagabond in Costa Rica for a couple years or something and figuring it out. I could see that. I could totally see that, and I'm like, "Just don't tell me all the details. Just tell me what you survived from." It, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Don't tell me what just happened to you. That's the way to your daughter. Like, you know, you're like, "Come to me with anything." Yeah. And you're like, "Oh, my God." Yeah. You know? You- Never mind ... I've always handled the conversations really well, and then I've gone to my room, and been like "I'm gonna throw up," you know?

Oh, last week. So my daughter's six, and last week, she, she loves to write letters. Like, that's her love language. Like, that she'll probably be, like, a poet or something. She's constantly writing notes to everybody. And we, my boys had a piano lesson, and one of the little boys is in her class, and he's a, I think probably a year or two older than she is, 'cause he's quite a bit bigger.

But he was, like, chasing her all over the place afterwards, and she's, like, screaming. Well, that night, we get home, and she comes up to me, and she has a pen and a paper, and she's like, "Mom, how do you spell," what did she say? How do you spell- Marry. I was like, "What do you mean?" She was like, like, "Do you want to marry me?"

Like merry Christmas? Have a merry day? I was like, "Go ask your dad how to spell that." And then the next morning she was, like, just getting out of bed, she comes up the stairs, her hair's a mess, she still has her pajamas on, and she has a pen and a paper in her hand, and she's, like, barely awake, and she's like, "Mom, how do you spell much again?"

And I was like Oh, no. "Why, what are you writing?" She's like, "I'm writing a letter to so-and-so." And I'm like, "Josephine," like, "no." And I'm like, "What are you writing?" And it says on her paper, "I love you so, so, so, so, so, so, so." And I was like, "Anthony," Yeah. "You need to talk to your daughter." She's six. Yes. Like, I remember being boy crazy, but I was never that...

Like, I, I was always so shy when I was a kid. And so she's, like, writing letters to deliver to them, and I'm like- Oh, I would've never ... "No, no." Never. Yeah. And Anthony is like, "Dang, I don't know what to do. We just met his parents and I really like them. Like, how am I gonna murder a kid- ... when I like his parents?"

Oh, this is going south. This is going south. Do whatever. You just said on record. Do whatever. I know. I was kidding. You're like delete that now. No, you gotta say the name. S- well, my daughter has a boyfriend now. She'll probably kill me for talking about this. Mm. I mean, they could be broken up by the time this podcast comes out, you know?

You never know. How old's your daughter again? She's turning 21 on Saturday. Yeah, okay. Yeah. But I haven't met him. But it's been really funny 'cause we're going to the Goo Goo Dolls for her birthday on Saturday. Fun, fun. And I'm like, "Oh, tell Anthony to text me." It was like a joke, you know? Uh-huh. "Oh, this kid's been texting me."

Oh. Yeah. I shouldn't say kid, he's an adult man. Oh, wow. But, But is he texting you? He's like, "Here's the seats we have. Here's the hotel reservation. This is what time I'm picking you guys up." He even texted me Happy Mother's Day. Okay. He's, he's really working it. Okay. I notice he likes my Instagram posts.

Wow. He knows, yeah. Do you like him? I don't know, I've never met him. Oh, you've never met him. Yeah, it's- But do you like the messages? Is, does he seem polite? Super respectful. Good. Cool. And the fact that he'd even message me, I know- I know, that's crazy ... yeah. I wouldn't, I s- I still don't do that. Like, I don't text my mother-in-laws.

Someone was trying to get a hold of you the other day and they're like, "She's never responded." I'm like, "Just she'll come back online." Oh, yeah. Yeah. That, those are s- those are days. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to respond to people. No. You know? Well, and sometimes I just get inundated that- Oh, yeah. Sometimes I'll be like- I'll come across

"What are these 14 or sometimes 40 messages?" Literally. And so I'm scrolling, scrolling down- Yeah, I do ... and I'm like, "Oh, shoot, that was, like, two weeks ago." Yeah. And I'll always, like, leave it unread with, like, the mental note that it'll ping me to get to it later. Yeah, I go back and I mark it unread. But then, but then later comes and I don't read it.

Delete it. And now I have probably- Or hang it like 10 ... like, 900 something unread texts. 900? Really? I was like, "Really?" Yeah, 964. Well, I think so, yeah, 'cause you usually do answer me. I, I think a lot of those are probably group threads and things that I need to just click on. I know. So we kinda stopped using, like, just different ways to communicate with clients and things like that, and I just started putting everyone in a group message.

Yeah, it's so much easier 'cause there's so many apps. So much easier. Yeah. Everyone loves it. Yeah. But now I'm like, we're all in these group messages from hell. I know. But like, they're not, you know? I'm always like, "Sorry I'm starting a group thread," but it's the best way to communicate with everybody. Yeah, and I'm really trying to train, and this might be, you know, business owner to business owner, I'm also trying to train the girls, you know, they're very go-getters.

It's always funny talking about Cindy when she's in the room. But Cindy, Jess, all of 'em, and now I think they feel like they don't have me as like the barrier- Mm-hmm ... so they will just go straight to the source and ask the question. Mm-hmm, yeah, Cindy's been, she's been doing that with Kaya. Mm-hmm. She hops on the group thread and chimes in, 'cause she is on our group thread.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like, "Sorry, Cindy." Yeah, no. "You're hearing my rants about the sinks being dirty." She did say you guys fight about the trash sometimes. No, well the other night- That's actually the only thing I- ... I walk, I was like leaving, I'm like, "Holy cow, holy trash." Like, we try not to take it out every night unless it's full- Mm-hmm

'cause I don't wanna like waste trash bags and just about like consciousness of that, I guess. But conscientious, con-, whatever. Earth-loving. More, yeah. Anyways, but I go to try take it them out, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, these are all full." Anyways. That's funny. Another tangent for another day. Some battles just aren't worth it.

Yeah. Do you ever like type out messages and then you're like, "Why would I send that?" I do that. Yeah. I feel like I've gotten better though at, like, not sending or, like, revising or, like, taking a moment and being like, "This doesn't need to be said now. I'm gonna wait and see how I feel about it tomorrow."

That's what I'm saying, I get really- Yeah ... reactive- Yeah ... for no reason. Yeah. And then I'm like, "I'm not even gonna send that. That doesn't even make sense about anything, to anything." Yeah. Yeah, it's like a checkpoint, right? Yeah. You're like, "Okay." You're like- Like you learn as you go. Yeah. You're like, "Dumbass."

Yeah. Don't start fights. Yeah. I, you know, I'm fortunate though, we do have a really great team at the salon. You have some amazing girls ... honestly amazing girls. So that class on Sunday that we did- Yeah, so I just was over filming a curly hair, it's a cur- I wanna say curly girl, but curly hair class. Yeah, curly hair cutting class.

Is that what you called it? Mm-hmm. And they were cutting curly hair. Yeah. And it was really cool to watch, and you guys had brought in some educators from it, some... Where were they from? Chicago. They both live in Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. And I've met them both before, they're Oway, which is the product you carry- Mm-hmm

which is organic. It's really cool. It's all glass. I love it. It's bougie. Yeah. And it's just a nice product. God, it's such a good product. We did a product knowledge class yesterday, so Monday. So Sunday we did curly cutting class, and then Monday we did product knowledge, but we only did it for, like, three hours.

And, like, that alone could be a two-day class. Just learning, it's such a beautiful line. Mm-hmm. But anyways, yeah, the cur- you know what I, I loved about that curly class that we did? I mean, I've been in the industry for over 20 years, and I used to educate a ton, so I've done a whole lot of classes, been a student in a lot of classes.

The, it was actually the most... We sent out, it was, like, Tuesday, the Tuesday before the Sunday class. I was like, "Oh, shit, we gotta get models." Like, I forgot. Well, you were messaging me like, "We need models." Yeah, we need to get models. I guess it was Monday, 'cause Monday we did the walk. No, Friday. Oh, when did we do the walk?

It was Friday So maybe I realized a little ahead of time. I don't know. Yeah. But anyways, we just put some feelers out and like, I did like an ad maybe on Instagram, and we sent out to our clients and like an email. We had at least 40 inquiries for, to be a model, which was incredible. Like- Mm-hmm ... just like, I don't know.

That to me was like, wow, like, A, the community needs curly cuts, B, what c- what cool community support. So we ended up with 13 models amongst the, I don't know how many girls showed up, maybe 15 in total or so. But it was like the most hands-on model with like something creative, where it's not like a one-size-fits-all.

Like, you have to drop in, you have to really consult with everybody. So like the ratio of stylist to models was the most I've ever experienced, and it flowed so well. Everybody had a great time. Yeah. I think you left a little, you left at like o- one or two. Two. I think if you would've stayed, now I know, I'm like, "Oh, I should've had her stay a little longer."

I didn't know. But because we had so many- Mm-hmm ... models come in, and then everybody had their hands on, and it was really busy feeling, but it wasn't stressful. No, no, no. It wasn't chaotic. I saw people tagging you guys. Mm. And I was like, "Oh my God." I was so... I'm one of those people that was like, "I should've got that content.

I should've got that content." I know. "I should've got that content." 'Cause it was like the stylists more, right? Mm-hmm. Rather than the educators doing it. But no, there'll be other times. We're, so we're doing like a blonding and a bridal class coming up in October. I've got a friend from California flying out to do that.

That's really cool that you're providing that for your stylists. Oh, yeah. No, e- education is such a big deal to me. I, I mean, in any craft, you're never gonna master something fully, period. Like, you can call yourself whatever you wanna call yourself, but u- unless you're constantly refining and growing and learning, like, you're, y- like you can't, you're, we're just not here to be perfect.

Yeah, so that's important to me. And I, I have found, being in Southern Utah, there's a lot of great stylists that can, like, throw some extensions in and some blonde highlights and use a curling iron. Mm-hmm. But as far as, like, real refined skills, that's gonna sound bad, but I just think that we've gotten away with not having to be super-duper skillful.

We just do pretty hair. And so it's really important to me, like, coming from the Bay Area and having, like, the background that I have, it's really important to gather skills for the girls to have the stylists. Right now we're all girls. Yeah ... anyways. Potentially you could have some cool dudes come in.

I would love to have some cool dudes. Yeah. That'd be fun. Oh, I love, I love a male energy in the salon. Mm-hmm. Like, a healthy male energy in the salon feels so good. Those are my favorite salons to be in. I used to. Well, before I came over to you, I always ... Sometimes I get picky where I'm like, "I like the color, but I don't like the cut."

Mm. So for a while you were just cutting my hair. Mm-hmm. But even before the, the other girl was coloring my hair, I was going to a different salon and I had this guy cutting my hair- Mm-hmm ... and someone else coloring it. Okay. But I would go to him, 'cause you know I'm, I'm picky. I like to have my hair cut every six weeks- Yeah

but it doesn't need to be colored. But yeah- Yeah ... and he would do this, like, insane blowout. Mm. And he was super manly. Mm-hmm. You know, he- It's nice finding the manly ones ... I remember him being really into ... Yeah. He was- Yeah. Yeah. But he's like, "I just love doing blowouts." And, I mean, he would wash your hair and you'd, like

I mean, he was in there, man. Yeah. Is he from Texas originally? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do know who he is. Okay. With, like, red, red hair. Yeah. Yeah. He went back to Texas. Yeah. He's cut my hair a few times too. He's a cool guy. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool guy, huh? Yeah. Yeah. He used to have ... He did my blowouts and my cuts.

Yeah, he does a great blowout. Yeah. But he has refined skills. He was a great cutter. Mm-hmm. Like, that's why I'm like, "Okay, yeah, you know what you're doing." 'Cause there's a lot of people that's just like, "Do, do-do, do, do." You know, that sounds bad, but ... Yeah, we do like to provide a lot of education, but I think this br- this blonding and bridal class that we have coming up in October, m- the plan was was to do doll heads.

But with the turnout that we had for this curly cut, I'm like, "Wow, that was-" Oh, don't you doll heads? I know. I'm like, "I think we're gonna do models if we can manage it." Mm. It's a little harder with color. But it was such a great way to get people in the door to experience us, like, super raw experience.

And, like, just the content that we get from it too, and, like, the hands-on, 'cause I don't know, it was just, it was great. It was awesome. Yeah, no, we'll plan on being there the whole day, two of us. Fun. Yeah. Yeah. I just didn't plan ... It ... Okay, this is funny. I gotta back up, because on our team call Monday, I was like, "Okay, I just chopped all this KYA content and I

from Sunday," and I said, "Please don't judge the first half of the content." 'Cause I was struggling to- With the angles? Yeah ... you saw me. I was like, "So-" You were like, "I don't know where to stand." And then I would go and a girl would be up with her phone, and then ... Which is totally fine, you know? It just took me a little while to just be like, "Excuse me.

Excuse me. Excuse me." Get it. Uh-huh. Yeah. And then I really started hitting it, so. Yeah. But the first half of that content I was like, "What am I doing?" Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, we've got a great ... We've got a great group. Yeah. No, you have such a great group. It's been fun. They're all so nice. It's just been fun to see it go from, like- A vision to what it is.

I'm like, I don't know what it's... I don't know what she's gonna turn into, but- Yeah ... she's growing. That's cool. Yeah, it is fun. But you provide the space though. You know, like, "Here's some education." Yeah. You know, "Here's the space. Let me help you." Yeah. I've been in your staff meetings where you're like, "Hey, we're a family.

Like, how can I help you?" Yeah. It's pretty cool. I've had to make some hard calls recently. I don't know if I told you about that. No. But I had to let somebody go- Oh ... a couple weeks ago, and that's- It's never fun. It was actually the, like, it, it wasn't because she was somebody who I never thought I would have to.

And I mean, I cried. I, I pulled together a meeting after, like immediately after it happened. Oh. Because I knew it was gonna kinda like disrupt the family. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. 'Cause it was like you're kicking a kid out almost. It was mutual. Like, it got to a good place where it was, like, a mutual agreement, but I think it's calls like that as a business owner, like, having that keen discernment and having to make hard decisions, like, I knew, I knew before I made it that, and I know that it's gonna be something I look back on decades from now as one of those pivotal moments that, like, helped carve me into the owner that I will become.

Yeah. I just recently, we had someone kinda leave/let go, and I knew I should've done it, like, four months before I did. Yeah. And I don't know- But it's hard ... what it was. Yeah. It's so hard. I feel like the universe right now, like for me at least, it's, like, testing my discernment. Like, I just said- ... that to one of my stylists today.

Like, I think I'm just being tested again on discerning, and discerning is really a really polite way of saying asserting. Right? I, I was like, "Where's she, where's she going with that?" Yeah. I'm like, "Well, that's not a bad..." Yeah. But I, yeah, it's just, like- I don't know, keeping your boundaries up and your standards high, and knowing you're worthy of having standards, and you're worthy of creating a space that can have standards, and the right people will come at the right time.

But sometimes we feel like we just wanna, like, take people on and help them, or bring them in to fill a void maybe. But it just... Then you go... It's, like, more work and it's more stress, 'cause you know that little voice is telling you, like, "It's not the right move." Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, for sure. But it all shakes out.

It's just challenging to own a business- Yeah ... but it's also challenging to go to work every day. Yeah. You know, just I think being human is challenging. Being human is so challenging. This place is a challenging playground. Yeah. Yeah. It's a- It's a refinery. I think even, you know, being... Doing what you do, you know, you get to make a lot of people feel good, but you're also very much in the public.

Mm-hmm. So you're a public servant to a point, you know? Oh, yeah. I can go anywhere- And you never know- Between real estate and hair, I'm like, "I can't go anywhere." But you never know who's gonna walk in your door, too. Yeah, yeah. You know, when I worked in retail, I was like, "I didn't know people were crazy- Yeah

until then." Yeah. And it's also learning how to, like, handle that, because everybody has their own stuff going on, you know? Yeah, for sure. Like, we had a client today who she had a service done and a week or so ago, and, and it was a complicated service, but she just didn't under- s- she doesn't, she didn't understand, like, how complicated the service actually took.

She was mad because it took three hours. I'm like, "Honestly, that was actually great. It could've taken- Oh, yeah ... a lot longer than that." Three-hour hair appointment. But she's somebody who does her hair at home, and so she's not used to being in a salon. She's not used to people touching on her. Like, anyways, she wa- she came in today un- unannounced and was just adamant on wanting a refund.

And I was like... I was in a meeting, and it caught me off guard, so I was like, "Well, our policy is to have the stylist correct it, and we're happy to bring you back in and- Mm-hmm ... you know, do a toner on you. Like, we're happy to do that." Yeah. But I, When she left, I c- I, like, was like, "Okay, she's really anxious, and she's the type of person that no matter what we do, I don't think we can actually make her happy."

And so I text her, and I was like, "Hey," like, "after thinking about it more, like, I'm just gonna go ahead and give you that refund because I could tell that it was really stressing you out, the thought of having to come back for anything, and I don't... I would hate for you to have that experience." I don't think she'll li- will listen to this, so I can, like, freely kind of speak over this without naming names, obviously.

But she was also that kind of person that I'm like, "I don't know if I want her back in- Yeah ... because she's literally never gonna be happy, and so we'll just take the hit. You know- Mm-hmm ... my stylist will still get compensated. The salon will take the hit on that, and that's fine. It's part of business. But again, it's discerning.

Mm-hmm. Like, sometimes you have to bend those policies too to, like, cater to different personalities and people, 'cause sometimes- Oh, no, absolutely. Like, a lot of times I'm like, "Let's remove the money from the thought," you know? Yeah. And I'm like, "Is this a good choice or not?" Yeah. And usually you know- Yeah

right away. Yeah, y- but you have to be nimble. I think that's the thing too, like, as a business owner, is you have to stay nimble and y- and flexible, right? To, like, whatever the environment has and, like, you have to stay human, I guess- Oh, absolutely ... when you're in a human industry. Yes. Yeah. Espe- especially what you do.

Yeah, service. It's- You know? It's not easy, 'cause I think too, in today's day and age too, like, people go on TikTok, they go on YouTube, they go on Instagram, and they see these, like, incredible transformations or whatever it might be, but they don't see the whole thing. And they... And you know, we're in this, like, I think we talked about this last time, like, the desire for perfection is just, like, really sad too.

Anyways, service is hard, but I think hair salon is probably the hardest, if I can say that. Uh-huh. Restaurant business is hard too, but people aren't, like... They might walk out upset because their food didn't hit like they- Yeah ... wanted it to. But it's like a- Not gonna ruin their- It's a one meal experience

mm-hmm. You know? Like, you're not ruining... Like, we've all had- Unless they get food poisoned ... we've all had a bad hair experience, you know? Yeah. And it messes with you for a long time. It does. Yeah, it's a big deal. Like, it really is a big deal. And so, and you know, I, I said it the last time, but I do, I hire for heart more than I hire for talent.

My girls are talented, and, and that's only gonna grow even more. But I think you have to be able to drop in and be a human, and, like, connect with people. It's the biggest thing. Every time I've ever come in, I... Well, every time you do my hair, I leave and I'm like, "God, I feel good." Yeah. I feel good about life.

Yeah. But it's, like, good in my soul. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. And my hair always looks great. But it's almost like a- Good ... byproduct. I'm gonna walk out and I'm like, "Hair is fabulous." Yeah. You know? It's fun. It's- It's fun being able to connect with people. It is. Yeah. I think you guys do a great job.

The vibe in there is amazing. It's all organic. Do we... Let's hit on that. Okay. Like, what makes your salon so special? So many things. Everything. Coffee, duh. Well, the star is- The wallpaper's pretty cool, too ... I just- I was admiring the wallpaper Sunday. Oh, I know it turned out good. What makes our salon special?

Well, honestly, like, I don't know how much time we have left, but I think, I think just starting off, like, I never, I really never wanted to open a salon in St. George. Like, that wasn't on my my, my list, you know? Were you doing hair when you moved here? No, I stopped doing hair, and I just did real estate.

And then 2020 happened, so we moved here the end of 2018. I had a baby March of 2020, and- You did? Did you have it before or after? During. It was March of 2020. Yeah. And in California, like, I had... Because our insurance was there. Oh, no. Yeah, it was fun. I had a baby on my birthday, and my husband had a vasectomy on his birthday that year.

Oh, really? Isn't that funny? That's super funny. I know, it is funny. Yeah, 2020 was a fun year. Anyways, I woke up in the middle of the night at, like, 3:00 AM, and I was like, people, like, first off, people need to be touched. Like, what is happening in the world? You know, and I... It was like a full-blown identity crisis.

'Cause before I stopped doing hair, when I just started doing real estate full-fledged, like, I really hit the ground running in my career, and so when I left doing hair, everybody was like, "Whoa," like, "What are you doing?" It was like a disruption a little bit, but I like to do that. I like to shock people and make decisions for me, not for anybody else.

Anyways tangent. Shocker. What was I just saying? Okay, so I woke up in the middle of the night, and it was, like, a full-blown identity crisis. Like, "I need to touch people." I, my husband was doing some nighttime trading. I went down into his office, and I was crying. I was like, "I need to do hair again."

Like, "What am I doing?" So I texted an owner of a salon here in town. I was like, "Hey, buddy," like 7:00 AM the next day. I'm like, "Hey, I gotta do hair. Do you have a ro- do you have room for me?" And so I start, I went in that day. He showed me, like, the lay of the land. I got my license transferred over to Utah, gathered a couple tools, 'cause I gave everything away, and started doing hair the next week.

Do you want the full story of how Kaya came? Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. I'm gonna make it quick. Okay, so you started doing hair. Started doing hair again, and my, actually, my very first client, she didn't know this at the time, but you know Sophie at the salon? Mm-hmm. Sophie was my very first client when I went back to doing hair.

She was, like- Cute ... 14 or 15. Yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking that. If I was you- I'm like, "She's really young." Mm-hmm. Yeah, so she was like a baby. So I started doing hair, and then- how much time do we have? Do I go into all the detail of this? We've got like five minutes Yeah. Okay. Well, I won't- I'll make it quick then.

Okay. So my mom passed away, and I was in this kind of like spiritual cocoon, and I had a lot of my clients, and I build relationships, and people care about me, and I care about them. I don't openly tell everybody about my mom's passing and, like, the spiritual cocoon I was in, but I definitely had a good amount of clients that were, like, asking me, like, how I was doing and how everything was.

And so I was kind of, like, on repeat with the story, you know? Mindful of my volume, et cetera. I think it was creating this space where people... The other stylists were like, "Oh my God. This girl's crazy." Yeah. So I could kind of feel that it was, like, coming to, like, my time at that salon was coming to an end.

So I was hugging my husband one day, and I'm like, "I don't... I, I need to go. I don't know where I need to go, but I just see myself with these big windows and these blinds in it and these red rocks in the background." Mm. "I don't know if it's mine. I don't know if it's somebody else's. I don't know if I'm in Ivins, if I'm in St.

George, if I'm in Santa Clara, but I feel like I'm in a tree house," is what I said. And so then I call my friend who has grown up here, she knows everybody, and I'm like, "Hey, I need a new salon home. Where do I go?" And she's like, "Oh, go to so-and-so's salon. You'll, you'll hit it off with her, and you'll love it."

So I, like, rush over there, take no account for the environment. I call the lady who owned the salon. She's like, "Oh yeah, we can get you in. Just meet with the manager." So I go in. I grab my tools from the other salon. I start there, and, like, two weeks after working there, I had one of my friends in the salon, and I was doing her hair, and I turn her, and she was like, "Holy shit, Kay, that view."

And I was like, "Holy shit, that's the view. Like, how did I not see that?" So where I'm at now... And then, and then fast-forward, like, I don't know, probably, like, six to eight months later, I could just feel that, like, pride of ownership wasn't quite there anymore. Like, the owner wasn't involved. She's doing a whole lot of other things.

And so I finally got the courage to text her one day, and I was like, "Hey, if you ever think about selling the salon, put me on the list of people that might be interested." And she's like, "That's so crazy that you say that because just yesterday I said to my fiance, 'Hey, it makes me sad to say, but I think we need to sell the salon.'"

So then we started that transition and then, you know, and then Kaya became what it is now. So all the girls that were in the salon, they started another salon, so we kept it status quo for a few months until they moved into their new space, and then we went in and gutted it and started ground zero and created Kaya.

But I really had no... Like, I just was getting these visions. Mm-hmm. And, and there's more to it than that- Yeah ... that would take it 25 minutes to dive into probably. But, but it's just been this, like, I always tell people, I just, like, pick u- I follow breadcrumbs, and I, and I I am very spiritual, and so I just wait for those, like, divine messages to tell me what the fuck to do.

Mm. 'Cause I'm, all I am is human, and sometimes I wanna fight that. But when those little drop-ins come, and you're feeling that, like- That pull, right? Like, I don't know. I think so many people fight it or deny it, right? Or avoid it. But I don't know, it's kind of amazing once you start following that little pull and to see where it goes.

Well, it's kind of like you just hand it over, you know? Yeah. And you're like, "Okay. To the right, to the left." Yeah, so you know, so to answer your question on why Kaya is so different and, like, what makes Kaya unique I, it really has been a divine journey. And, like, bring- being an organic salon, to me, was never about, "Oh, that sounds like a trendy thing to do."

It was never a, "Oh, that will be a good draw to get clients in." It was, it was such a divine thing, and I had some, like, native divine messages coming in. And so it became very Earth-centric, and, like, what's good for the Earth, what's good for us as humans. Yeah, the client experience is exceptional because of how we do and what we do.

But the why, to me, is way more beyond that. Like, it's the sty- the health of the stylist, being in the salon. Like, s- the salon industry is so toxic. It's actually, I think it's more toxic than being a car mechanic. I hear that a lot. It's crazy. Yeah. So anyways, I think that's why Kaya is, is different, and, like, is, is great because it's not...

I'm all I am in it. Like, like, you know, I like joking around, like, "Oh, it's me." It's not. Like, I'm just, like, this conduit of, like, creating- The facilitator ... whatever's supposed to be created. And s- for some crazy reason, people are playing along, and I'm like, "Oh my God." People are like, "Okay, we just keep going."

I have to tell the girls all the time, I'm like, "You guys know you have agency, right? Like, you're sovereign beings. Don't let me talk you into being in a cult- ... 'cause I know I'm really good- ... at, like, selling and- Should we start a cult? ... marketing and... Yeah. No. Anyways, yeah. That's awesome. Five minutes up. Oh my gosh, you could keep going.

I was just like, "I don't know, five minutes." Yeah. I'll still stop by. I just think it's such a beautiful space, and the more that people know about it... You know, that's always the thing in business too- Yeah ... is, like, "How do I get more people to know about it?" You know? Yeah. But I, I do think the more people know about it, you've got chairs, you've got, you know, girls working.

It's such a cool place to be. It's such a cool place to be, and I, I think the people make it cool. Mm-hmm. Like, even the clients that we have come in are so cool. Like, we just have... I'm like, "This is great. It's fun." It's so fun. Some days, you know, you wake up and you're like, "Oh, I gotta go to work today," and I feel that- Yeah

all, all the time. But then I get to work, like, I get to the salon and I'm, I tell my husband, "Oh, I should be done by 2:00." It's like 6:00 PM by the time I'm leaving, because I'm just lingering and hanging out and telling him I'm cleaning things, when I'm probably just talking to people. I'm such a yapper. I'm like, "Look out, we're just yapping."

Yeah. You know? Yeah. 'Cause it just feels good. It does. Well, just connecting and, like, learning about people. And when you're in an intimate setting like this, right? Mm-hmm. Like salon, like, you learn so much, and you help and you grow. And- Oh, I learned so much. Like, yesterday, we got to go film this, like, $8 million home.

Oh, I saw that, yeah. Okay, that was cool. But what we were- we were there for our client, Anastasi Stone and Tile. Mm-hmm. And so they were there, and they're like, "Oh, let me show you, like, this stone out here." And he's like, "See, this is... I don't know what. I'm gonna mess it up." But anyways, he was showing us. He's like, "See all the markings?"

And we're like, "Yeah, it's all different." He's like, "They're fossils." And we were like, "What?" That's cool. So we were, like, looking at all the stone, and you could see all the little fossils in it. That's so neat. You know, and that's something I would've never even- Yeah ... yeah. And I was like, "Where does this come from?"

And he's like, "I think it came from Turkey." You know, just- That is so cool ... and what was cool about that house, it felt like it was a showpiece for them, really. Every bathroom had different tile. Mm. Like, the showers, the bathtubs, and the floors. Mm-hmm. And so, and the laundry room, the kitchen. So it's like a showroom for them.

That's, yeah. I was like- Yeah ... "Did you guys set this up?" Yeah, yeah, yeah. The pool, they had done all the pool tile. Mm. Like, the whole outside it had that checkerboard pattern going in. Cute. And I was like, "This is so cool." That's so fun. But just even learning about the fact- Where it all comes from ... the stone has fossils in it.

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, "Oh, I never really- Thought about it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's all organic material, you know? Yeah. It- that was really cool. Yeah. And then we just had a lot of fun too, 'cause again, that was, you know, it was beautiful. It was a beautiful space. We had this younger video kid that we've been using quite a bit lately.

Okay. He's such a cute kid. He shoots houses. Oh, good to know. And he's really good, yeah. But he flew his drone through the house. Okay. And I was like, "What do you think about flying the drone from one side to the other?" And he's like, "Yeah, no problem." And he just- Fun. Yeah. And I'm like, "This is fun." Yeah, yeah.

And then he goes out onto the pool, all of St. George- I love that ... 'cause it's up on a hill. Okay. But I'm like, how cool is this? Yeah. You know? I just feel like I get to meet so many cool people. Yeah, you do with what you do, and you get to meet, like, a different level of people too. Yes. The creators. Mm-hmm.

You get to meet creators all day long. Yeah. That's so fun. Before you came in, we had the owner of Wren Hollow Farm. Okay. And I keep telling you she's just an older you. Yeah. Like, I swear you guys are the same person. And she's so cool with all the plants and like- She's gotta be. Yeah. I'm like, "This lady is so cool."

You know, but just even being in people's spaces like that, I'm like, "Wow, this is- Yeah ... really rad." There's cool people in this town, though. Like, I will say- So many cool people ... like, I've been to a lot of places, I've lived in different places, and I've lived in really cool places. This place has so many cool creators.

Yeah. Entrepreneurs, like, just artsy people that are so smart, so family-focused, or, like, when I say family-focused, but just, like, full of love and community and service. Like, we have a really great community. It's a great place to raise a family and- It's a great place to live ... I just wanna be around people that are more family-focused, even if they're not having a family, you know?

Totally. They're not just like, "Ew." Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, it's like, like, just loving your neighbor. Mm-hmm. Right? Like, family-focused can just... It's just your community. Yes, loving your community. Yeah. And it's so interesting 'cause you know how people can be living in the same place and have different experiences.

Uh-huh. And we were filming an event recently and I was just listening to... You know, 'cause I'm filming it, I was listening to conversations of the questions in the audience. Uh-huh. And multiple people were like, "I hate living here. I can't meet anyone. It's just all Mormons," and all this stuff. And I was like, "All my Mormon friends are really cool."

Yeah. And, you know, in my head I'm like, "I meet cool people every day." So- I mean, you, you reap what you sow. You do. You know, I hate to say that, but, like, you make your bed, you lie in it. Mm-hmm. Like, whatever you want, you will create. Yeah. So your words have power. Like, put that on my headstone when I die and make it noted.

Okay. Branding. Your words have power. Your words have power. Yeah. Like, I feel like I say that all the time because they do. It's a good reminder ... like, it's quantum physics ... thanks You know? I mean, it's a real thing. Your words have power, and so if you keep saying, "I can never meet somebody," you're never gonna meet somebody.

Like, I'm gonna start saying when people say, "I can't," I'm gonna just say, "Yeah, you're right." Because if they can't, if they're saying, "I can't," then they can't. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm fol- actually, you can't. Yeah. You're right. Validation is the antidote, and they're gonna be like, "Wow, you bitch."

That feels like something I would say. Just sort of, like, "Don't be so dramatic. You own a car." Yeah. I'm gonna be like, "You're right. You can't do it." Yeah, and then walk away. And let them sit with that. I've actually had people come to me even, like, a year or two later, and they were like, "I was, like, really mad at you," and I'm like, "For what?"

I have no idea this whole side conversation happens. That's because you're a projector. Yeah, 'cause I triggered them in a conversation. It's because you're a projector. Because we say things that are actually really wise, but like you... Do you know this about yourself? Being a projector, you have these deep knowings that people aren't ready for.

So unless they ask and it's invited, and you have to feel it energetically, if you just give them this knowing that is so simple to you, it's gonna, like, rock their world. Yeah. I have learned- Or they're gonna get pissed ... I have learned in my older, wise age- Mm-hmm ... I need to be a little more careful about what I say.

Yeah. You, or you just, you wait for the invite. Mm-hmm. And you can't be like, "Hey, can I tell you this?" Like, you have to literally wait. No way. That's the worst. You have to wait, and sometimes it's years. Or what happens is you tell them this great advice that's probably gonna change their life, and it's like they don't even hear it, and then a few months later they hear it, but they don't remember that you told them.

And so then they start telling you, like, it's this profound thing, and you wanna be like, "Yeah, I told you." No, no shit. "No idea." No shit. But then, but then you're never gonna get the recognition for it. It's just part of being a projector. Cool. I always learn stuff about myself around you. Yeah. She'll be like, "Your son is in the something house," da da da da, "and that's why you're..."

I'm like, "Oh." Okay. Yeah. Little smarty pants over here. Yeah, just coding. It's, I think it's pretty cool. It is cool. It's, it's a cool trick. Not a trick, but- Yeah. It's like a little party trick. Yeah. Well, yes. But also it's a cool knowledge to have. It is. It's fun. It's just the language, right? Like, we all have, we all have languages, and that's the one that resonates for me.

Words are power. Words are power. Yeah. I, have I told you what I want on my, when I die? No. Okay. So you know how you can be made into glass? Like your ashes? I think you have something else, but tell me again. Okay, I wanna be a bowling ball, and I need you to keep repeating it. Are you kidding me? I would like to be a glass ball.

I was hoping for, like, a pretty jewelry. No, no, I wanna be a glass ball the size of a bowling ball. Okay. And then I want it to be, like, obnoxious. Gosh, is that possible? Like, can you be made into that big of a piece- Yeah ... of glass? My ashes could be blown into, you know- Oh, you blow it. So you're not using it as a bowling ball.

No, no, no, but I want it to be about the size. Okay. Just to reference, maybe even the size of a globe. Okay. And then the family's like, "My God, what do we do with this?" And they're like, "What is that?" And they're like- It goes on the podium at partner ... "Stupid Aunt Sam." And then, like, it's in a closet for years.

It's hella brave because your great-great-granddaughter- Then it's even funnier, yeah. 'Cause they're like, "Oh, no, we broke-" Oh, no. "We broke Sam." Oh my gosh. I just want it to be- Okay ... obnoxious. Noted. Okay. Yeah, super obnoxious. But also, I don't know if I wanna be cremated, 'cause I'd like you guys to all look at me in the coffin.

Oh, you do want that? Yeah, but you know you can do that and then be cremated. Absolutely, I think that's a thing. Yeah, I think- Yeah ... everyone needs to look at me. Okay, do you wanna be in a coffin? Yeah, for sure. Not in, like, a cool chair or something? Ooh. I know there's options. You can t- put people in chairs.

Why not? God, could you imagine going to a funeral and someone's sitting in a, like a recliner? They have a place setting for food. That'd be that would be so, like, startling. But it's- I- Or a statue. I mean, what is the difference between- You could be, you could be standing ... laying in a coffin, where it's like- Like, shaking hands

people could- You're gonna be high-fiving people. And it, like, falls off. Oh, yikes. I'm so sorry for all, anybody who's listening to this that's in grief right now, 'cause we might- With lots of laugh- ... be triggering. With lots of laughs. Yeah. Okay. Everyone. I just want it to be obnoxious. I think Michelle is- Just make sure-

obnoxious. Yeah, just make sure that it's obnoxious. Okay. Okay, back to beautiful experiences. I do, every time I leave, I feel good. I think you kick ass at my hair. Well, thank you. Everyone loves my blonde bob, so thank you. I'm not taking more clients. Don't look at it today. No, but you have, like, 20 other amazing people.

I do. Yeah, and- Yeah ... I know they all do a really good job. They do. So thanks for keeping me on your client roster. Yeah. Until further notice. Of course. I know. I'm really... You know what, though? Like, I'll get new people somehow every now and then. I'll be like, "Oh, yeah, okay, I have time." And then I fall in love with them, and I'm like, "Damn."

And Anthony's like, "I thought you weren't taking any more clients." I'm like, "I know." You just- But they were really great dudes ... need to wait till I die, and then... Yeah. You know, I- I feel honored that you come to me for your hair, like your color and your cut. Yeah. No, you do a good job. I'm a two-in-one. Yeah, this is- That's amazing

it's been years since I've had a two-in-one. Well, thanks, Sam. Yeah. You have the cut down- I hope I don't let you down. Never. You've got the cut down. Imposter syndrome. I mean, how can you mess up this bright blonde? That's true. I don't think you can. No, I, no, I mean, you could, but... Well, yeah. But no ma- even if I did mess something up, you just would rock it anyway- Yeah, don't look at my hair today

and be like- It's, like, weird and frizzy. I think it's the weather What's going on with the weather? I don't know. So we live in the desert. Okay. All right, you guys. Where can they find you on Instagram? I'm @thekeyasalon and then- Website, keyasalon. com. keyasalon. com. K-E-Y-A. Yes. And we're always trying to figure out, I'm all, "Which way does the apostrophe on the E go?"

But if you just type K-E-Y-A- Yeah ... you guys will find her. Yeah. We'll have her linked in the show notes. You can text me, I'll get you their information, and this is the salon you wanna be at.