More Lessons In Personal and Family Defense

Taking headlines from current incidents, Royce explains the do's and don't's of defending yourself and your family with deadly force.

Plus, a look at an op ed that plainly exhibits that liberal leftists think of peaceable practitioners of the right to keep and bear arms on a par with drug dealers.

Transcript

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And so I'm going to take a little side shift today and deal with...
defensive shooting issues that we could take lessons from. We all could always use a little bit
extra instruction or some encouragement or some training in the area of being able to defend
ourselves and all of the legalities surrounding it. So we're going to look at a few different
incidents and try to draw some, what should I say,
some training from it. Because it's always better to learn from other people, if at all possible,
before you make a mistake yourself. So, this first article is coming to you from Kent,
Washington, by Jason Sloss, S-L-O-S-S,
from K-I-R-O-7 News. And here's the article,
and all of these articles that we go through will be generously interspersed with yours truly's
commentary. Police say an attempted home invasion robbery in Kent ended in a shooting Monday
morning. Okay, he caught that. A home invasion in the morning.
Keep that in mind as we go through this. One suspect is now in the hospital,
and police say at least one other suspect is still on the run. It all unfolded at a home on the
corner of Cambridge and Hampton. Police say five members were inside, the two homeowners,
their daughter and her husband, the daughter's husband, along with a young child.
Okay, as soon as there's a child involved or other family members, That automatically raises the
stakes, not to mention the adrenaline. The daughter woke up to a noise and called 911,
according to Kent Police. Kent Police Assistant Chief Jared Kashner said she woke up her husband.
He's the one that went down after retrieving his firearm from the safe next to his bed.
He went downstairs, and that's when she heard the shots. The suspect was shot.
And we responded. It said, no, now note the order of events, by the way,
and see that the police were only able to respond after they had already handled their business or
been forced to handle the business. And this is something to keep in mind.
Yes, I'd love for the police to be able to show up at your beck and call. Be there at a moment's
notice and defend you and your family, but that is never, and I do mean statistically never,
the case. So if maybe you're listening to this program for the first time or you're new to it
relatively, I want you to think about these things as you might be...
what should I say, considering arming yourself to defend yourself and your family and your home. So
listen closely as we go through this. Okay, one more time I'm going to say this. When seconds
count, the police are always minutes away. I'm going to reference a defensive shooting that took
place in Jacksonville here in my home state. And it happened at the Coker family residence.
And I actually interviewed Foster Coker, the husband, and had him.
recount that harrowing ordeal there and i'm going to use that for reference later and you'll see uh
you'll see when that happens anyway excuse me um the reason that the police are you know only able
to be there after the fact is largely due to the dynamics of these incidents okay the threat
obviously needed to be responded to immediately now i don't know The way they said,
the chief said, or I'm sorry, the assistant chief said, the guy went down to check out the noise.
So that implies that this is the two-story home. Who knows where the master bedroom is?
More than likely, like all other master bedrooms and most two stories, it's on the bottom floor.
So maybe the daughter heard things going on that didn't make sense to her.
knew her parents were down there, that they would not be making that particular peculiar noise,
and that's what alerted her. Either way, you don't know where every family member is in your home.
That raises the stakes, okay?
They didn't have the luxury of expecting the police to show up at that point, okay?
It had to be dealt with. Keep this in mind. If you're, like I said,
if you're new to the shooting world and you're starting to think about buying a gun or maybe you
just bought one and you want to learn how to use it and things like that, these are things that you
really should consider right now before you get into such an incident.
That way you can prepare yourself mentally and emotionally. Well, I'm not sure entirely about
emotionally, but certainly to a great degree mentally. And before, and again,
I hope it never does happen, but before it does, if you know what I mean. So let's see.
Where's my note? Okay, back to my note. While this ended optimally for this family, this is me and
not the article, I want to also caution everybody about moving toward an intruder unless you're
absolutely certain that one is in the home.
Unless you know where everybody else is in the home that's supposed to be there,
like family, of course. Do you know where the threat is? I mean,
apparently the daughter, something that she heard made her go, that's not mom and dad,
or that's not a family member. So obviously that piqued her.
spidey sense, so to speak, as she woke her husband up and he went down to check it out. Obviously,
there was some urgency in her tone that made him move that way. And hats off to him and hats off to
him for handling the business here. Also, I'd love for you to take some training on moving around
corners, especially inside the tight confines of one's home. There is an art to it,
and it's like what we call pieing the corner. And if you'd like to look up some videos on that on
YouTube, I'm sure there's some on there. Matter of fact, I know there is because I've seen them
before. And you can learn a lot from watching them and how to move around corners with your
firearm. Maybe you also have some sort of a communication within the home so everybody can know.
to stay put or hide behind your bed or whatever the case may be. Of course, you're not always going
to have that luxury, okay? Back to the article. Officers found a man on the floor when they
arrived, shot multiple times with a gun nearby. No family members were hurt.
Hallelujah. Thank God. Glad to hear that. Notice that it said he was shot multiple times.
Now, I want to tell you right now, If you're not ready to shoot another human being more than once,
you might want to make yourself mentally ready for that, too, because here's the problem with
pistol ammunition. It's notoriously underpowered, comparatively speaking,
compared to high-powered rifle like a 5.56 or a .308 or something like that.
Most people that are shot only once with a handgun round, about 80% of the time,
believe it or not, they survive, even hit in the torso. So it's not a guaranteed stoppage with one
shot. And obviously the defender here realized that this person needed to be shot more than one
time, or it could have been because he was in super close proximity and really had to mag dump on
him to get him to go down. Who knows? We weren't there. We don't have all the particulars of the
dynamics of this incident, but the man did have the presence of mind to shoot that dude more than
once. And the dude was armed. Maybe nothing. I know it did.
I know that raised the adrenaline and the urgency of dumping multiple shots into this scumbag.
So thank God that the good guy won this one and that no family members were hurt.
The police say the intruder was armed and was likely with at least one other person. Mr.
Kastner, the assistant chief of police, said, we believe the suspect was not alone.
The caller believes that there were other people in the house. We don't know how or why she
believed that. It could be she heard loud whispering or something. I don't know. I heard people
talking back and forth. Anyway, efforts to track down another suspect came up empty.
By the way, that could be a problem. especially if the subject at large or the suspect at large
decides to hold a grudge against the homeowner for wasting his buddy and possibly comes back for
revenge. Now, a few minutes ago, I talked about Foster Coker and the incident that took place at
his house. He had one heck of a fight on his hands. A local gang.
had convinced themselves that the man was sitting on hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash in
his home. They used some really mental gymnastics to convince themselves that that was true before
they attacked him and his wife in the morning at their home with a home invasion style robbery.
Foster Coker got into a gunfight with this guy. They wrestled around. They fought for nine.
solid minutes before Mrs. Coker went and fetched a second .38 Special.
One .38 Special had already been dumped into this guy, and he was still fighting. Had shot Foster,
had beat him in the head with his gun, and it turned into a heck of a fight for life.
Mrs. Coker finally brought her husband a second loaded .38 Special that she had retrieved.
And he then used it to finish the guy off. He did a few shots to the body,
stood up, and pointed one at his noggin and ended the fight. Nine minutes of fighting.
Now you understand why you might need something more than a five shot 38, because if you don't have
a second five shot 38, you're not about to get that five shot 38 reloaded in such a bad incident
like that. Start with something that holds 15 rounds. Let's do that. Okay.
Now in the aftermath of this, always remember there's an aftermath and be prepared for it.
Okay. If you have to defend yourself, even if it's in your home, like in a state here in Florida,
where the presumption lies in the homeowner's favor, and they presume automatically that because
the person was in your home, that you held a reasonable fear of grave bodily injury or death.
So the presumption is in your favor. That's probably not the case in Washington State where this
took place. You may want to think about having maybe some legal insurance,
you know, have it on hand, probably wouldn't hurt because you're going to be answering a lot of
questions and you really don't want to do that without an attorney. Even if you know that you were
the one justified in the shooting, it doesn't freaking matter because anything you say can and will
be used against you in a court of law, especially. in a liberal state like Washington State or
Oregon, California, Illinois, Rhode Island, Massachusetts,
New Jersey, New York, and the list goes on. So, something to keep in mind.
Worse than that, the police were at their home for 11 hours gathering evidence in the aftermath of
this. 11 hours. 11 hours. of police officers wandering in and out of your home,
taking notes, asking questions, taking photographs, probably walking into every nook and cranny of
your home and looking at things. This is just the reality of these incidents.
Although I don't understand why it took them 11 hours, okay? I mean, just think about that.
11 hours of police in your home snooping around all immediately.
after such a traumatic, adrenaline-saturated event. So, high-stress event.
That's something to think about. These are some of the dynamics of these incidents, sadly. And if
it weren't for evil people needing to be shot when they come into your home, this wouldn't be a
problem. But as long as they are, well, these are the things that you really need to consider,
okay?
Neighbors, now listen to this next part. This is very important to note. Neighbors told KIRO7 they
did not hear any gunfire. Okay.
If your neighbors cannot hear the shots, gunshots going off inside your home,
they can't hear your screams either. That's why you should never think that your neighbor may be
able to come to your rescue unless you guys have some sort of good communication with each other
where you can alert the other. Uh, then don't, don't expect anybody being able to hear your screams
or hear the gunshots. Uh, you're going to be on your own for however many excruciating minutes it
takes for the police to get there. And that's if you were, if you were able to actually call them
before you had to take care of business. All right. Uh, by the way, uh,
this is especially noteworthy for. Total collapse scenarios, okay?
Just throwing this out there. You need to establish reliable communications with your neighbors if
you're able to actually trust them because this shows and this proves that loud noises, especially
gunshots, are not always going to be able to alert your neighbors to a problem, all right?
Now, there was a local neighbor, Bobby Wheeler. and who lived across the street,
and it's B-O-B-B-I, so I'm assuming it's a she. Anyway, the witness said,
it's kind of scary. All morning, I was trying to figure out what was going on because it's too
close to home. I'm sure that was a consideration. Investigators are now hoping the suspect can
recover so he can answer some questions. Well, don't count on him answering the questions, but he
might just lawyer up.
The Kasner, Assistant Police Chief Kasner said, now we have to try to figure out what sequence of
events got him to that point, meaning the suspect. We don't know why they picked that home.
Well, my response to that is, as far as you and I, my fellow keepers and bearers,
are concerned, that information is only relevant after the incident.
It just doesn't matter beforehand. Now, here's another incident out of Texas. And for the life of
me, I cannot figure out why bad people try to do bad things to people in Texas, of all places.
Almost as dumb as trying to get in Florida. But here's an article by Maddie Marks and David
Centendree.
This was from March, I'm sorry, May 4th. Out of Garland,
Texas. Garland police say a driver shot a man who was trying to carjack him and his family in a
parking lot. The incident was captured on surveillance. Police say the man tried to steal several
vehicles by force before trying one near Highway 66 and Derry Road.
A majority of the family members were inside the car when a carjacker tried to steal it.
The carjacker was shot and killed by the father during a struggle. Captured on video.
Okay, now that's twice I've referenced incidents that involved physical struggle with an assailant.
I referenced Mr. Coker. I'm referencing this one. You may end up having to grapple with your
assailant before you can bring your gun to bear. What kind of grappling skills do you possess?
By the way, I might also add that I carry pepper spray everywhere I go, and that's something I can
keep in my hand, readily deployable, so that if someone does move aggressively towards me,
I have a nice blinding agent there that I can douse their face with and then sidestep out of the
way and possibly deliver a beautiful, world-class NFL punt to his crotch.
Anyway, whatever it takes at that point. So anyway, there was struggle involved.
And now this is not the only incident where I've referenced over the last 12 years of doing this
program that such an incident involved a personal struggle,
physical struggle. That is hand-to-hand, arm-to-arm, knuckle-to-knuckle, knuckle-to-face.
And that is part of the problem here. I'm not probably part of the dynamic,
I should say.
So just keep in mind, not every incident is going to be simple, where you just draw your gun, shoot
the bad guy, and he goes down. Doesn't work that way. A surveillance video showed a man attacking
and trying to carjack a family of eight in Garland on Sunday afternoon before the father shot him.
Witnesses described the suspect's erratic behavior.
Witnesses noticed this guy before the father did. Sadly, apparently the father's attention was
diverted on something else. Apparently nobody else in the vehicle noticed this person's erratic
behavior, but multiple witnesses described this guy as being erratic.
Now those are pre-assault indicators. Someone's acting weird, you pay them close attention.
Because all it takes is a couple of seconds to breach the distance between them and you and do you
harm or your family worse yet. One witness said you could definitely tell.
So she saw the indicators that he was not. and his right state of mind.
I'm just glad that the man was able to protect himself and his family. Amen to that.
Garland Police Department says the carjacker initially crashed into two other vehicles,
and Lieutenant Pedro Barano said, while we were responding to the scene, we received even more
information that the driver of that car had exited and immediately began physically trying to get
into other vehicles in the parking lot. One witness says she saw the man breaking into several
vehicles at a gas station, so she took cell phone footage. Okay,
this is a good thing to keep in mind, too. You know, it doesn't hurt also if you...
have to stay focused on the bad guy and say you're alone. We'll do that hypothetical first.
They say you're alone, but there are people around, and you're armed, and you may have to deal with
this person. It doesn't hurt to turn to other people and say, hey, start recording this, please.
People have no problem doing that these days. Some of the worst things in the world could be going
on, and some idiot standing there with a cell phone out. But in this case, this person was not an
idiot. She took out her cell phone and said, this is something that needs to be recorded, and good
thing it was. Not to mention good thing there was surveillance video. She also said he tried to get
into several different cars. He ended up going to their car, referring to the victims.
The family of eight was unaware of what was happening and what was about to happen.
The video shows the carjacker confront the father. The father then struggles with the carjacker as
the carjacker was trying to drive off with the family's car with the family members still inside.
Listen to me. At that point, I don't care if the dude's armed or not.
He's going to get popped. But... Also, remember, he's in your car with your family.
There's people involved now. So that does change the dynamic real quick,
especially when those people are your family. This is after nearly a minute of struggle.
Okay. I don't know if you know this, unless you've ever wrestled in high school.
One minute on the mat seems like one hour. Trust me when I tell you,
when you're exerting all manner of energy and your adrenaline is in your mouth and you are pouring
100% of yourself into that first blast against your opponent, yeah,
one minute is a pretty long time. So struggle with him for nearly a minute.
And the carjacker, who was by then already in the driver's seat, was shot by the father after he
had stepped out of the seat and once again moved towards the father.
He was actually standing just outside the car door. I'm actually with, you know,
between the door and the frame, what I saw on video when the father shot him.
So thank God at that point, he didn't have to worry about his family being hit and he could have a
direct line of fire on him without having his muzzle cover anybody of his family. You might be able
to see the video of this, by the way. I'm sure it's on YouTube by now. Police do not expect to file
charges against the father. Lieutenant Barano said it seemed like self-defense. It kind of all
happened really fast. Yes, it did. I guarantee you. The police said they didn't know if the guy was
armed or not. And again, I want to stress, it doesn't freaking matter if he is at that point.
He is in your vehicle, which he can use as a weapon against you, not to mention a weapon against
your family by ramming it into something immovable or larger. All kinds of things can happen.
He is kidnapping your family at that point. And kidnapping is a justifiable use of deadly force
incident. Any day of the week in any state's book, I can't find any other state that says anything
differently. Someone's trying to kidnap one of your family members. You have every right in the
world to shoot them and shoot them as many times as it takes to make them stop trying to kidnap
your family. So it wouldn't matter if the guy was armed at that point. Once he sat in that driver's
seat, all bets were off as far as I'm concerned. Oh, but Royce, you said he was stepping out to go
towards the father. Yeah. And that's the best time to shoot him. Because what if he turned right
back around and got back in the seat and drove off with your family? Yeah, I'm going to smoke him
too. That's just the bottom line. That's just the way I would have read that thing. And I think
most of you listening to my voice would have done the same thing. Now, here's one close to home
here in Mount Dora, Florida. A homeowner shot. a guy who came to his house,
apparently it was some sort of a love triangle, according to all the reports, and I'm not going to
go too deep into it, but this guy entered the boyfriend's home,
the boyfriend of the woman, and the guy who broke into the boyfriend's home,
and I'm only assuming the woman was there too, I don't know yet, he entered through an unlocked...
sliding glass door. That is absolutely unacceptable ever, ever,
ever. He went around the house trying doors and windows, looking for opportunity,
and he found it. He found it because it was presented to him on a platter by the homeowner.
You lock every freaking door on your home the minute you walk through it into the safety of your
home, the relative safety of your home. You walk in, if your family walks in with you,
as soon as everybody's inside, you lock that freaking door. I've been locked out of my house before
many times by both of my sons and even my wife because the habit is to walk through the door and
lock it immediately behind you. And every time they've done it to me, I thank them. I tell them,
that's exactly what I've always told you to do. Don't ever think that you're going to be in trouble
for that. This incident also happened early in the morning. It was 8.48 on a Saturday,
8.48 a.m. And this love triangle came to fruition.
The guy that got shot lived. He was hit three times. He was hit in both arms and in his torso,
but there were only two shots fired and there were only two casings found at the scene.
And what it appears to be is the perpetrator, once the gun was pointed at him, he might have put
his arms up or... stretched forward aggressively when he was hit.
Who knows? And one went through his arm and into his torso. He was hit with a .45 ACP,
which apparently the one that hit his torso did the job and knocked him down. But he is not dead.
He's in a hospital bed, and they're planning on arresting him as soon as he's able to be arrested.
I guess physically able. One point I'd like to point out here. is when the police showed up the
homeowner the boyfriend of the wife of the man who got shot this was something that never had to
happen okay anyway um the shooter the defender identified himself to the deputies when they showed
up and he told them that the handgun that he had to use was uh up on a nightstand in his bedroom
The point I want to make here is very wise that he did not come to the door with that. gun when he
let the deputies in. I'm sure. I know that's like first chapter in the book of duh, but yeah,
don't show up when the police, you know, get there and you've got a gun in your hand or even on
your person in your holster or whatever. You want those guys to feel they can safely enter your
home. I mean, you have to actually, you've already called them to come there and you've invited
them to be there. So let them do their job at that point. Okay. All right,
we're going to take a brief commercial timeout. When we come back, we're going to look at an anti
-gun activist who shot and killed somebody. Yeah.
This is why I say so many times, if Democrats would stop shooting people,
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We've been talking about defensive shootings and taking some lessons from them.
Now we're going to kind of shift gears and look at... shooting that took place in Colorado by an
anti-gun, anti-violence activist. He was in charge of an organization there called Heavy Hands,
Heavy Hearts. He's now been convicted of second-degree murder and the shooting death of a man at
the victim's son's fifth birthday party. And the article here is by Cam Edwards.
called Anti-Gun Activist Convicted of Murder in Colorado Shooting. Now, I think I briefly
addressed this issue, this incident, a few years back when it happened, or a couple of years,
I think. But anyway,
yeah, this was a couple of years ago, back in August of 2024. So here's the rest of the article.
47-year-old Lumumba Sayers Sr. was originally charged with first-degree murder in the killing of
28-year-old Malcolm Watson, who was shot while hosting a birthday party for his young son at a
park in the Denver suburb of Commerce City on August 10,
2024. According to prosecutors, Sayers was seeking revenge for the murder of his son,
Lumumba Sayers Jr., who was shot and killed in 2023. and believed that Watson had some connection
to the shooting. If it sounds like this is the kind of scenario that the senior Sayers was supposed
to be teaching teens to walk away from, you're right. Heavy Hands, Heavy Hearts' signature program
is called Gloves Up, Guns Down, and it's built as a 90-day program to teach teens the basics of
boxing and kickboxing while being, quote, mentored along their journey by lifelong practitioners of
combat sports in order to, quote, learn discipline, respect, and perseverance.
Okay, while I appreciate programs like this, and yes, they can have a very strong influence.
in removing somebody from a violent life, believe it or not. Yeah, because they become more
disciplined and focused and more confident and then realize they don't have to handle everything
with their hands because when they get those skills, they realize that they could possibly kill
somebody with their hands and they're more reserved in the application thereof.
But I must also warn that dealing with inner turmoil in young people by focusing on the external
has very minimal positive effect, okay? Teaching them the power of boxing and other striking arts
when they possess no moral foundation is like arming the criminally insane,
okay? So apparently the mentor here, the mentor murderer,
uh, in this story are one in this, you know, the mentor and the murderer, I wrote my notes here are
one in the same. And this guy could not lay aside his own grief, which all,
you know, oftentimes, uh, spawns some of the worst fury and anger.
He couldn't put that to rest. He acted out and instead laid another man to rest in front of his
five-year-old son, I guess, hoping that would give him some closure. Well, It didn't,
obviously. Now he has probably a life sentence at the Graybar University. Pride is a killer,
people. Pride is a killer. Let your pride take the hit, because when you act on pride,
you do stupid crap, okay? This guy's pride couldn't take the hit,
and his ego stirred him to action, and now because he lacked that moral foundation,
another family besides his own. But what about the perceptions of all the young men he may have
helped along thus far? What kind of a setback mentally and emotionally are they now going to deal
with? I mean, he had a stellar opportunity to model what he had ostensibly been teaching them,
but he proved that he couldn't overcome his own pride. So, yeah.
This is the problem with not having a moral foundation. That's the problem.
I don't believe this guy was a conservative. I believe he was the product of Democrats,
whatever policies that were that stirred or steered him in that direction.
Maybe he was raised in the projects. I don't know. A lot of violence and drug use and stuff in
those places sometimes. But those are all Democrat constructs. OK, just going to leave that right
there. The article continues by Cam Edwards. According to prosecutors,
Sayers left an anti-violence event. Oh, the irony. On the afternoon of August 10th and drove to
the park where Watson was celebrating. son's birthday with family and friends.
Multiple witnesses said Sayers Sr. walked up to Watson, greeted him, and then shot him at close
range. Sayers Sr. said he greeted Watson, and this is his testimony about the incident,
heard a second person greet Watson, and then heard gunshots. Okay,
his defense at trial was that another man who was present that day killed Watson. Okay,
what man? Who was he? Hmm? Oh, apparently he couldn't say that.
Yeah, it was a coincidence that you showed up there with the gun at this man's son's birthday
party. Sure, you were just there to wish his son happy birthday, weren't you? Yeah.
Now, the article here shows... the original report, they don't understand some things.
Sayers Sr. was armed with an unregistered handgun. Well, there's no handgun registration in
Colorado. There's no gun registration at all yet. They want it. I know the Dems do. It says,
which he is seen on video brandishing his handgun. Immediately after the killing,
he told jurors that he carried the gun in his pocket for protection despite not having a concealed
carry permit and that he pulled the weapon only after he had heard the shots.
But here's the kicker. This gets weird. His gun was not the weapon used to kill Watson.
So apparently ballistics didn't fit his gun. Interesting.
Prosecutors alleged. the murder weapon was an untraceable 3D printed or kit built ghost gun that
was never found. Okay, then where did they acquire the notion that it was an untraceable 3D printed
ghost gun if they never found the freaking thing? Hmm? How did they gather that?
Oh, I don't know, maybe there was no... uh, rifling markings on the bullet. I don't know that could
be, but there's, you know, anybody could make a zip gun for that matter. But here's,
here's where prosecutors gained an upper edge. They theorized that Sayers senior gave the gun to
the other man who then left the scene because surveillance video shows that same man.
running up to Sayers Sr., the murderer, after the shooting, having a brief conversation with him at
his vehicle, and then running away carrying what appeared to be a covered-up object.
Well, so maybe they had something to it. I dare say, though, I think you should have the actual
murder weapon or video that it actually took place, and it could be that Sayers used such a gun.
an untraceable ghost gun, and then pulled out his own gun to provide a cover story,
knowing that the bullets in his victim would not be traced to his gun. So that could have been a
ruse. I don't know. But apparently the jury didn't believe he was innocent.
and they found him guilty. So the article continues. It's still unclear whether Watson actually had
any connection or involvement with the death of Mr. Sayers' son. According to police,
there were at least eight different individuals who fired guns at each other in Denver's Five
Points neighborhood, not the best place, on August 19, 2023.
Sayers' son... was killed in that shooting, and Sayer's daughter was injured,
as well as the mother of Watson's children. Okay, I can understand wanting to have a beef.
I can even understand wanting, and maybe even fantasizing, about going after them.
But I've got to think about the rest of my family at that point. And if I was in his shoes as
trying to be a mentor to these other troubled youth, I would hope,
anyway, that my... The heat of the moment would not overtake me and that I wouldn't do something
stupid like this. Excuse me. The article continues,
even if Watson did play a role in that shooting, Sayers Sr. was supposedly dedicated to
interrupting the cycle of violence and retaliation. Instead, he perpetuated it.
Yes, indeed, that's exactly what he did. Carrying a firearm,
my dear friends, is a massive responsibility. You are carrying lethal force on your person,
and you had better be dadgum judicious in its application. I will tell you that right now.
A handgun being carried is not something you whip out to win an argument.
It's nothing that you would use to try to shut someone up or do something that would violate their
rights. or put them in fear unnecessarily. It's something that you would use as a last resort only.
Hear me when I tell you this. The only justifiable use of force in any state's law here in the U
.S. is defensive force, used in defensive fashion.
used when you knew you had no choice and you knew you were facing grave bodily injury or death,
that's when the law hopefully will shine down and say, yes,
that was the right thing to do. Sorry that it happened, but we're not going to prosecute you.
Now, again, don't count on this being the case in any of the communist-occupied territories.
I mean, communists, after all, don't think very clearly. And I think they do that on purpose.
I think many of them are very brainwashed people, and they're so contrary to the principles of
liberty and capitalism that they automatically think to the opposite almost reflexively.
Such is the case of a columnist named Megan McArdle.
And I'm going to just pull some excerpts out of this article because I don't want to go through the
whole thing. It would be belaborous, okay? Or laborious, I should say. But her article is titled,
A New Way to Think About Firearm Policy in the U.S.
Now, this is just excerpts from this, okay? She said, first, handguns are associated with more harm
than long guns. They are involved in 90% of firearms violence. and a huge number of suicides.
Well, she's not wrong there. Handguns are more portable. Most people don't want to carry around a
long gun with them all day. Not every state smiles on that, and even states that do.
There's plenty of police departments who simply are not on board with such constitutional freedom,
and they may respond heavily, so some people might just refrain from doing that.
So it's only common sense that you would carry a handgun, and I prefer concealed.
But anyway, she continues, people own significantly more handguns because they are just easier to
carry around and easier to conceal. Yep, that's exactly that. By the way, see how this is presented
on a false premise, as though it's some sort of a foregone conclusion that handguns are evil.
Because they're used in more shootings and more firearm violence.
And by the way, the totality of shootings are... heavily comprised of police and citizen defensive
shootings. People that are killed in defensive shootings, their birth certificate still is listed
as a homicide, and it goes down in the statistics as a homicide. And they don't make any
differentiation in that in the statistics, so that's what it's going to be viewed as. A person died
because of the actions of another human. That's why it's called a homicide. So,
it says second, Most people who buy guns say they want them for personal or household safety.
That's a use for long guns as well. And that's the premise of her story here. We should buy long
guns and not handguns because handguns make up for more violence.
Well, it's not because they're handguns. It's because they're like you even admitted, they're more
easily portable and people have a right to freaking defend themselves, lady. I mean,
Ma'am, your ignorance on defensive gun usage is on full display here, but like all liberals who
refuse to educate themselves before they sit down clickety-clacking on their typewriter,
you seem to fancy yourself to be able to school us gun owners about our choices of firearms,
and maybe that's based on, I don't know, your warped sense of morality? Long guns are nowhere near
as practical. I mean, besides, do you really want all of us carrying around rifles for personal
defense? I don't think you want that, do you? Because you know what kind of rifles we'll be
carrying. Those evil, wicked, violent assault weapons.
And as she speaks... Like we're just ignorant and that we don't understand that long guns are a
sensible and easy replacement for handguns. Well, I got news for you,
ma'am. The aforementioned defensive shooters from the first half of the program would not agree
with you because you don't have mobility with a long gun as easily as you do with a handgun in
close quarters. You know, like... your bedroom after some guy just kicked your door in after he
entered through your unlocked sliding glass door or if maybe you're sitting in your car someone's
trying to carjack you how do you bring that rifle to bear how about any other tight place which
even could you know be a bathroom stall for that matter or for you know there's no such thing as a
phone booth anymore but you know the tight confined spaces are not ideal for defending yourself
with a long gun Yeah, ease of handling with one hand, especially if your other hand is injured,
or if you have to grapple with your assailant, as we've already addressed a couple of incidents,
and block a blunt or even a bladed object with one hand to bring your other hand to bear.
I mean, sacrifice your arm if you have to, better than sacrificing your life. If you have to
sacrifice your left arm so you can use your right hand to shoot the bad guy and stop the threat,
well, then that's what it's got to be. But that's where a handgun comes into play and not a long
gun. There's also overpenetration issues with rifle-powered cartridges,
especially when family are present, like in a home invasion or someone trying to carjack you and
your family, as we've already referenced earlier in the program. Yeah,
you don't want to be cranking loose 5.56 rounds inside your home unless you have some decent ammo
that you know is less prone to over-penetrate, like a good soft-nose hunting round. Better than
that, a frangible load. Frangible ammo releases all of its energy on target.
The bullet literally dissolves when it hits bone, and it's like getting hit with a little tiny
grenade. The problem is, if you shoot it out of a really tight, twisted barrel, like a 1-7 twist,
rather than a 1-8 or 9, that thing can start to tumble the minute it comes out of the muzzle,
which, not so bad. At close range, it's going to hit its target, and if it hits tumbling,
hmm, yep, a little extra added benefit, you might say.
But overpenetration is an issue, and this lady's writing like, well, why don't you guys just buy
rifles instead and not carry around handguns? Well, for one thing, you've already defeated your own
point, ma'am. If people were carrying rifles around and the same amount of shootings were
happening, a lot more of them would be lethal because of the extra power of the rifle cartridge
over the pistol cartridge, okay? She said, displacing handgun purchases with purchases of less
convenient long guns, you're right, they're less convenient, ma'am, could reduce the likelihood of
tragedy when the owner becomes angry or despondent. What do you mean when? What about if?
Why was if not an option there? And by the way, if someone's got a long gun,
and everybody's buying long guns, then the criminals will be stealing the long guns too,
and they'll be using them against you. And then your likelihood of a tragedy is going to be,
you know, manifold, especially if you have a handgun and bad guy has a long gun.
Or worse yet, if you have a long gun in your car and bad guy has a handgun, how are you going to
maneuver that rifle inside your car?
And by the way, ma'am, why do you actually believe that? You know, you speak as though this is
something that happens regularly. The owner of a gun just becomes angry or despondent and just acts
out. No, ma'am, only Democrats do that. So maybe talk to your fellow voting base,
all right?
She said, what if any of the aforementioned, I'm sorry, she goes, so what if the government gave
first-time gun buyers a subsidy? To choose a long gun instead. Yes,
let's get the government involved. That's always such a great solution, isn't it? No.
No, it's not. You kidding me? Besides that, I don't think the government's going to get involved
with this. And I think you're going to run up against a bunch of your own fellow liberals who will
scream to high heavens at the mere notion of this. Even though the government is required
constitutionally to arm the militia in times of insurrection and other wanton violence like,
you know, Democrat violence. She said, but we have mostly tried to address them by making gun
ownership more difficult. and that has practical as well as political problems.
Well, you're right about that, practically speaking especially. She said the practical solution is
that it's difficult and often unconstitutional, thank you for noting that, ma'am, to enact
restrictions that motivated criminals cannot get around. So I think what she's saying is you really
can't ban guns or put any kind of restrictions.
on gun ownership that a motivated criminal can't circumvent somehow. Well,
thank you for admitting that, and I really appreciate that. I really do. She said the political
dilemma is that gun owners who bear the costs of these policies are often single-issue voters on
gun control while the other side is not. Well, I'm glad she noted that we do indeed bear the brunt
of... control policies, but so do many Americans who don't even own or carry guns.
They bear the brunt of gun control policies. too. They're the ones that become preyed upon,
especially in the unarmed territories. She claims for people who support gun control,
it's one of many left-wing policy commitments rarely topping the list. That's why limiting gun
access has been such a political bust, even though a clear majority of Americans support tighter
restrictions. No, they don't. The Three Economists paper that she's referencing here sidesteps that
debate by examining the problem purely in terms of harm reduction. Harm reduction for whom?
You talking about the innocent people or the bad people that need to be shot? Yeah, the evil people
doing evil things. Well, when you talk about harm reduction for which side? Because you cannot get
around the fact that there are two sides. There's a lawless side and a peaceable side. The
peaceable citizens versus the lawless citizens. The lawless citizens are why the peaceable citizens
carry guns, okay? Harm reduction is really not a factor here.
You're speaking in totality of shootings. I want to explain that at least...
half of all gun shootings are suicides, and a large percentage of homicides are defensive shootings
by police and citizens. The actual number of murders happening by handgun...
And that is bad guy killing bad guy or bad guy killing innocent person is only about 12 to 15,000
people a year. And yes, I don't find those numbers acceptable. I'm just saying compared to medical
malpractice that kills a quarter million people a year here in America, it's kind of a drop in the
bucket. Okay. Now her next. sentence is a glaring example of exactly how these mentally diminished
people think about peaceable gun owners. They speak about us as though we're lesser people.
And you can almost hear the disdain dripping from her keyboard as she types this.
They treat us like we're pedophiles. I mean, they've more than once...
proposed that gun owners wear some sort of an ankle monitor or some marking device,
location marking device. They've actually suggested that.
Worse than that, they equate us to drug users as though we're addicted to guns and we just have to
have them or we have withdrawal symptoms and then we just go off the reservation and hurt somebody.
Yeah. We're carrying and using firearms for peaceable purposes,
we should not be thought of as drug dealers or pedophiles. Now listen to her next sentence,
and I'm going to close with this. It's like safe injection sites for drug users.
Sure, we could try to hassle people until they stop using, but we tried that,
and people are still doing drugs. So what if instead we tried to make their dangerous hobby as safe
as possible? She was talking about gun owners. She didn't say their dangerous habit.
She is calling us and the fact that we freely and responsibly exercise our right to keep and bear
arms. She is saying that's a dangerous hobby. That's why she's suggesting this the whole time.
Maybe you guys should trade your short guns in for long guns. Trade your handguns in, please.
That's going to help reduce violence and enhance public safety. That entire article,
because I don't have time to do the whole thing or comment on the whole thing, because I feel
intellectually diminished after reading it. It's all predicated on stupidity.
that has no real-world value, especially in light of the shootings we referenced in the first
portion of this program. This is how they think about us,
just like she's writing. She's not the only one that thinks like this. She's not the only one that
has written this scripted trash before about us. She's not the only one that thinks of us with
disdain. Oh my goodness, you backwards people carrying guns. Well, if you must carry a gun,
please get a less maneuverable gun to defend yourself and your family with in the middle of a tight
car or a bedroom. Yeah, please. This will help reduce gun violence.
If you guys would just heed my idea. Your dangerous hobby.
of keeping and bearing arms, the least we could do is make it safer for you and everybody around
you. Yeah, I want a projection vomit all over you, ma'am, all over your keyboard too,
okay? Because that's just how I feel about people who don't have a lick of sense about the dynamics
of self-defense, especially with firearms, okay? All right. I hope this has been educational for
you today. I hope to see you on the next, well, not see you, but hope to catch you on the next
episode. Make sure you share it around. I sure will appreciate that. Thank you again for the
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bullets, and bandages, and never forget, incoming rounds always have the right of way.
Voice out.