Pursuing Questions

Where are the foreclosures of research and the openings of pedagogy?

Kim Barton Season 2 Episode 3

In this episode, I capture an ah-ha moment where I challenge the all-knowing assumptions of research by claiming its limitations, and instead leaning into the potential of pedagogical inquiry. I reflect on the constraints I sense as a researcher, and the freedom I can embrace within pedagogy. I briefly reflect on my graduate school research to highlight how research feels close-ended, contained and methodological (in order to be reliable and reproducible) whereas pedagogy, while still being as transparent as possible, feels more open-ended and liberating while still generating knowledge.Join me if you're up for feeling empowered as an educator-as-researcher! 

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Huh.

So I just had a little aha

moment about this idea of.

Revisiting and unraveling the

word pedagogy, I've noticed

that.

In educational spaces, sometimes

research and academia is really.

Kind of positioned in this

hierarchical way where like

research is like the ultimate

source of knowledge and anyone

who has like a reputation in

research or is a researcher or

is an academic seems to like

hold more.

Like their findings or ideas

hold more like merit or value

than those who are educators.

And what I love about how does

learning happen is that it talks

about educators researcher and I

think that that idea is also

really present in Reggio Emilia.

Pedagogies taken up as this sort

of constant questioning wherein

if a question can be asked about

it, then it's pedagogical. And

so that means that that's

everything. Not just sort of

like the content that is being

learned or the approaches to

teaching, but everything within

relationships that can be

questioned and that allows us to

pursue inquiries of some kind.

And what I find so interesting

about this is that I've fallen

into this idea for sure of sort

of the researcher being the

ultimate knowledge producer or

knowledge holder, where as if

like educators are positioned

as.

Like these pedagogical pursuers,

then I actually think that like

they become the ones, they are

the ones who actually.

Generate knowledge.

Based on literal like relational

learning experiences, not just

circumstances that are created

in sort of laboratory settings

or even like in qualitative

research where it's sort of one

time interview type scenarios

that's very different than

educator and learner

relationships that sustain for.

Everywhere from a number of

weeks and months to years and

lifetimes.

So back to my aha moment. I was

thinking about some of the

research that I was doing for my

masters thesis and how I was

privileged enough to conduct my

research in an interdisciplinary

department. I started the

journey of my current topic from

a very different theoretical and

epistemological position than

where I ended up at the end of

it. And I actually came kind of

like full circle to my beliefs

and values around the concept of

years ago.

And that I was able to kind of

find my way back to, which again

signals the importance of sort

of spiralized experiences and

insights and this idea of

returning and being too wise to

know that learning is ever

complete. So in this revisiting

I.

I realized sort of the limits of

research and kind of challenged

this idea of like the researcher

being the ultimate knowledge

keeper or holder or producer

because it was actually my

knowledge of pedagogy. That

allowed me to move the research

in a way that I felt most

aligned with.

What educators were telling me

in my interviews.

Um.

Yeah. So without going into it

too much, I just want to

highlight the fact that like.

This research kind of um, it

didn't follow a linear path by

any means.

What I'm about to say is just

coming from a place of I'm about

to do my defence and I'm feeling

like I might be questioned on

sort of my I'm can't think of

the right word but like my sort

of looseness when it comes to

following like pre established

research protocols. But my

response to that is that I asked

a question that had never been

asked before that I had

certainly never been asked in

this way or to this population

or at this sort of moment in

time or in this context. So

therefore how can I claim to

know what form the answer will

take where the process.

Generating this knowledge might

take me or move me.

If anything, my program in

interdisciplinary research and

sciences has taught me that it's

when you think interdisciplinary

and when you transcend the

boundaries of disciplines in

academia, you also push against

the boundaries of methodology

and theory and ideal and

ideology and and and even

existing, of course existing

policies and sort of processes

both within research and beyond.

And so you you could, as I did,

end up moving through processes

that have never been done

before, that aren't comfortable,

that aren't linear, and that

aren't necessarily aligned

ontologically when you're kind

of intersecting. For me it's

intersecting the world of

working within early learning

and childcare and adult

Those ideas may not be

inherently aligned, even

epistemologically so.

How can I claim to know at the

beginning of my research what

conducting it might actually

look like? And if I were to

remain true to the plan that I

had in the 1st place, what would

have been lost?

Oh, and I guess like the other

layer to that is that because I

conducted qualitative research

and I was the human being behind

the analysis. I conducted the

analysis from my, you know, from

my knowledge of being a

researcher and using utilizing

methods. But also I can't help

but bring my pedagogical leader

knowledge to that as well. And

so this made me realize that

what I think is limiting about

research is that it contains us

to this predetermined plan, this

question that we asked months or

years ago and this proposal that

we've had.

Approved long before we're

actually implementing it. But

what I find so empowering about

pedagogy is that it's moved me

to believe that when we take up

an inquiry, we don't know where

we're going to go. We don't know

where it's going to lead us to,

what it's going to feel like,

what new knowledge might be

generated.

And what new ways of of?

Viewing the process or

understanding reality or values

that are held may become

unearthed.

So.

Pedagogy and research are not

just necessarily the reiteration

of existing knowledge, but they

are both processes by which

knowledge is generated and

subjects are formed. So in

saying that, I was initially

trained in sort of.

Psychological Science and Kind

of Objective Reality Positivism,

if you Know these terms.

Great. And if not, they

basically just mean typically

what we think about when we when

it comes to research, is it

being able to be like sort of

like generalizable to other

populations, recreatable, valid

and reliable I think.

Now as I've moved more towards

becoming sort of qualitative in

nature and thinking relationally

and you know seeing the world

from this sort of more.

Critical realism or even sort of

like subjective reality type

place. Um.

I really view research more. I

care more about the

trustworthiness and conceptual

depth of research than I do

about following a predetermined

procedure.

I find it interesting that we,

like uphold laboratory studies

which don't allow us to take up

exploratory inquiries. In my

case, I explored a question.

And aim to convey my

transparency around the process

by which I pursued the answer,

even if I didn't find the answer

through having very reflexive.

Descriptions claiming my

position on this subject matter,

bringing forth and making

visible all of the decisions I

made along the way and then kind

of entangling my findings or my

conclusions with with previous

research and lack of previous

research. And I think that's the

essence of pedagogy too. We are,

sort of.

Taking up an inquiry or a

question and making visible or

available are thinking our

wonderings are questions, our

uncertainties and not

necessarily like I guess

pursuing the question not so

much to find the answer but to

kind of.

Stay with the lack of closure

that allows us to remain curious

about a topic even when we think

we're getting closer to what is

most meaningful or valuable

about a specific topic.

The essence of this is that as

educators, we should feel

empowered to not just constantly

introduce existing knowledge to

whomever we're learning with who

we're in a learning relationship

with.

We should feel empowered that we

are actually knowledge

generators all the time, and

that we are curious not only

about the content that we're

exploring together or the

concepts, but also the processes

by which all humans learn and

what it means to attempt to

teach or attempt to create the

conditions where learning is

possible and comfortable.

I guess my final thought is that

the bigger question that aligns

educators, pedagogical leaders,

researchers is that we're all

curious about what's possible,

what is possible when we gather

AS.

Communities to learn together

and to pursue, you know that

sense of community together,

in the context of being in

relationship together and what

do we learn along the way?

I guess this is a short and

sweet episode, just sort of a

random snippet in time where it

had a little aha moment. I'm so

curious, as always, to see how

this lands with you. Please feel

invited to reach out to me on

social media at Playful

Pedagogies, and in the meantime

stay playful and always ask

questions.