Session 0031 - Alex Morgan on Alleviating Stress and Burnout

Alex Morgan is an acknowledged International Expert and Trainer in Hypnotherapy and Neuro-linguistic Programming. On today's session we learn from Alex on how to alleviate Stress and Burnout.

Listen and learn to this master speak to us on todays episode of the Professional Hypnotherapists Podcast. 

Here’s a link to the pdf Stress Buster

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2Yo20fmAhPrvXlIB7Iq9RJGGpKpgBsy/view?usp=drivesdk

People can find Alex at alex@athensnlp.com and my website www.athensnlp.com.

Connect Alex on Instagram https://instagram.com/alexmorganhypnosis?igshid=MzMyNGUyNmU2YQ==

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Transcript

Key Topics and Bullets. ( transcript below)

I. Understanding the Process of Modeling
  - Definition and purpose of modeling
  - Focusing on beliefs, values, and feedback methods

II. Seeking Guidance and Empowering Oneself
  - Example of seeking guidance for starting a podcast
  - Following the steps of successful individuals
  - Encouragement to reach out to admired individuals for help

III. Managing Stress and Anxiety
  - Recognizing signs in the body
  - Using self-hypnosis techniques for relaxation
  - Differentiating between stress/tension and relaxation

IV. Personalized Approach in Coaching
  - Tailoring scripts to incorporate client's words and preferences
  - Providing a refreshing experience

V. Developing Strategies for Sleep Improvement
  - Identifying negative self-talk hindering sleep
  - Promoting positive self-talk and creating a comfortable sleep environment

VI. The Journey to Becoming a Published Author
  - Starting to write about a subject of interest
  - First book focused on letting go of negative emotions
  - Techniques for releasing negative emotions explored in the book

VII. Recognizing and Addressing Stress and Burnout
  - Lack of sleep as a contributor to chronic stress
  - Identifying signs and symptoms of stress and burnout
  - Paying attention to physical symptoms

VIII. Transforming Paradigms and Making Significant Changes
  - Writing down keywords and phrases to facilitate change
  - Seeing changes reflected on a person's face

IX. Shifting Perspectives and Reducing Stress
  - Link between perspective and stress
  - Changing perspectives for a calmer approach to tasks

X. Understanding Emotions and Time
  - Emotions stored in the unconscious mind
  - Suppression of emotions and their resurfacing
  - Interest in eliminating negative emotions and altering future perspective

XI. Overview of Timeline Therapy
  - Brief explanation without diving into specific details

XII. Conclusion and Encouragement for Personal Breakthroughs
  - Emphasizing the essentials for breaking free and achieving personal breakthroughs.


Transcript
Aidan Noone [00:00:01]:

Alex Morgan, welcome to the Professional Hypnotherapist Podcast.

Alex Morgan [00:00:06]:

Hey. Thanks so much for, having me.

Aidan Noone [00:00:09]:

And, Alex, you're currently, living in and working in Athens in

Alex Morgan [00:00:15]:

Greece? Yes. It's, quite far, where I'm from. I'm originally from the US in California. So, you know?

Aidan Noone [00:00:27]:

Oh, sure. I have

Alex Morgan [00:00:28]:

shift. Yeah. I have my whole business and everything in my life here. So I plan to be here, for a while in Athens, Greece. I I love it. I love the sunshine. I kinda follow the sunshine around the world is what I say.

Aidan Noone [00:00:41]:

Wonderful. Hello, Alex. You're a trainer in a master trainer in, hypnosis and, neurolinguistic programming, with the ICBCH, which is I think it's Richard Nonguard's organization. Mhmm. And You specialize tell us what you specialize

Alex Morgan [00:01:04]:

in. Currently, I've been focusing a lot on Helping people reduce stress or recover from burnout. So this has been my focus recently. It's not the only thing I've since I got into hypnosis and NLP. However, this is most of the content and things I create now is, based around this, helping people with this.

Aidan Noone [00:01:27]:

Okay. And when you say stress and burnout, you know, we all know that, stress Like, some stress is necessary for for life, and indeed, some anxiety is To say for for life to provide motivation to us. But particularly now, I suppose, in post COVID Indeed. During COVID, people have experienced enormous levels of stress, which As you deal with you mentioned burnout. So tell us what specifically got you into that area of work, in the hypnotherapy NLP

Alex Morgan [00:02:07]:

field. Well, specifically with, stress, it's something I used to deal with a lot. I actually, deal with hypertension. So, that's high blood pressure. And, usually, if I get Stressed or something. Because I'm more in tune with how I'm feeling, I can kinda feel it spike up, let's say. So for me, I've used many different self hypnosis and different techniques to, use this for my own, stress. And so I like to just share this type of information with, people because, like you were saying, there's All kinds of stress.

Alex Morgan [00:02:50]:

And so it just depends on the person specifically what they need, help with. Because it's like you said, stress, some of it's good. We actually if we don't ever feel any sort of stress, we probably wouldn't fall asleep. So we at least need to have this. So, yes, Stress is good. We're still human, so, it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of how can we actually deal with that to, you know, live a fulfilling live.

Aidan Noone [00:03:15]:

Nice. Nice. Okay. And, you know, for our listeners out there, what are the warning signs that we need to be looking out for?

Alex Morgan [00:03:26]:

I would say one of them is a lack of sleep. Definitely, If someone's been having a lack of sleep for a while, they probably have some sort of, chronic stress. Yeah. And most most people, they think that stress will just kinda creep up on them or burnout will just creep up on them. However, it's been probably lingering for Many weeks or many months. So I'd say, a recent lack of sleep could be 1. If, someone is getting more irritable around, you know, people at work or and with people that, they have relationships with that really matter to them, and it's kind of, you know, not going so well because of this, I would say that's another big, warning sign or just any physical symptom that they feel that's, You know, their body's kind of off. If they could really tune into that, I think that that would be helpful.

Alex Morgan [00:04:22]:

Because when that happens to me, that just happened this past weekend, to be honest, I wasn't feeling a 100% with my, stomach and things like this, so I just said, hey. Enough's enough. I'm gonna lay down. I'm gonna rest. And after about 3 hours, I Started to feel better. So we need to know when it's time to to relax and deal with these types of things.

Aidan Noone [00:04:45]:

Yeah. Yeah. So what I'm getting from you is that it's important to listen to your body and listen to what you're experiencing. Yes. But off and oftentimes, Alex, you know, People, you know, they they experience this built up emotion, this stress, almost like the pressure cooker, if you want to call it, of of, You know, anxiety or whatever. And they oftentimes they don't know what to do. So what would you suggest?

Alex Morgan [00:05:23]:

I mean, if someone is having anxiety, or stressed. The first thing that I think is important is to recognize, what's going on in their body? Because if they can actually recognize that early, like I said, I have, you know, Problem with my stomach. And then right away, I was like, hey. That's enough. Then it won't kind of snowball and spiral out of control. However, if you people don't do that and they don't catch it early and instead it's lingering, I think that there's, you know, some different, self hypnosis things that they can do, of course, This is a hypnosis podcast, so there's plenty of ways to relax and create different, sensations. I think most people, they need to understand the difference between something such as stress or tension in relaxation. And you can do that just by really, let's say, clenching your fist for about 10 seconds.

Alex Morgan [00:06:27]:

That's gonna be, like, the feeling of stress in your body. And then when you let go and you slowly your hand, you know, that's like the soothing sensations of relaxation. So we need to learn Learn how to create different sensations in our body because I think a lot of people, they get used to Stressed. They run a strategy in their mind about I'm stressed. I'm stressed. So why not have a different way to physically change this that, they can do. So one thing that I do, it's called autogenic training. Yeah.

Alex Morgan [00:07:03]:

And I actually have a, free PDF that all the listeners can get. That's 5 different ways that you can let go of stress in 2 minutes per less per day. It tells you the exact instructions to do that, And all they're doing is creating different sensations in the body. They're just producing different

Aidan Noone [00:07:23]:

sensations. Yeah. Yeah. What I'm getting from you is that, basically, We're we are initiating, the control within ourselves rather than oftentimes, you know, our mind just runs away with ourselves. You know, it it it, just gallops ahead of us. Now, you you are we'll get back to more of that later. You are, as we mentioned previously, living and working in in Athens, Greece. And you do a lot of training, I believe, from, Greece.

Aidan Noone [00:07:58]:

I presume do you speak Greek?

Alex Morgan [00:08:00]:

I'm learning. I can under I can understand it a lot better than I actually, speak it. It's probably More of a limiting belief I should deal with, but I can understand it a lot. And I'll reply with what would I know, or I'll just reply in English sometimes. That is better. Yeah. Cali, right now, it'd be, like, Kalowa Nasimari, which is, like, right after the. Yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:08:25]:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And tell us so what type of training do you do specifically? So that anyone out there who is listening and watching this, you know, if they feel that they or believe that they you could help them, well, they know exactly where where where to go.

Alex Morgan [00:08:45]:

Yeah. So, they would go to, my website. It's athensnlp.com, or they can send me an email, alex@athansnlp.com. Essentially, I train people to either become a, hypnosis practitioner Or a NLP practitioner, or they can, do both. And we also teach the method of Timeline therapy, so that's used for getting rid of, major negative emotions as well as limiting, beliefs. However, if Someone really wants to, you know, become a hypnotist. The training's great for that. I personally went to these trainings when I had, stress and anxiety and things in my life, and I wanna do fix myself because I was thinking, hey.

Alex Morgan [00:09:32]:

There's gotta be something out there that can help me. So I always say people should come to the training for themselves first. And then once they get all the nice tools and everything, then they can kinda share them with the the world.

Aidan Noone [00:09:46]:

Mhmm. Because I I do believe that, you know, anyone studying the mind specifically in terms of, you know, the hypnotherapeutic aspect and the the hypnosis aspect of mind and and, motivation. Yeah. Their whole perspective has opened up. They have a different perspective on on the world. And, indeed, talking about perspectives, in your opinion, how how important are perspectives?

Alex Morgan [00:10:17]:

Well, they're Really important. I mean, if you see let's take stress, for example. If something happens Maybe something happens to someone and they're totally stressed, yet they're telling me, hey. You know, I have this project, and it's, you know, due in a week, but they're stressing about it that whole week. And let's say they tell me, and I'm like, well, you know, I would just get started on it slowly, slowly, prepare, And finish, maybe I wouldn't get stressed. So our perspective on anything could really change how we, you know, view our reality, the whole world around us. So it's Yeah. I mean, that's really what changes everything, I think.

Alex Morgan [00:10:56]:

And hypnosis Our training can definitely, do that for a student or a client.

Aidan Noone [00:11:03]:

Yeah. Yeah. And, What type of clients, or do you work with? Or or maybe perhaps what what you you mentioned you do training in hypnosis and NLP. You work with any businesses in terms of what using NLP for

Alex Morgan [00:11:20]:

business? Yeah. NLP, for business, mostly the communication models of it, so how they can have really efficient, conversations, at work that, you know, make their save time and make them more productive so they can make, more money. So I would say this is one use in the or in sales, of course. You can always use different, language models or different, notice different things in creating rapport or the person's physiology to create that connection, so you can get more sales as well. This is something that I do focus on too, to be honest.

Aidan Noone [00:11:59]:

Excellent. Yeah. So, for example, business owner out there, how specifically would NLP can you give me an example of how, neurolinguistic programming could help them. And if it's maybe specifically with regard to communicating or communication.

Alex Morgan [00:12:17]:

Okay. So, I mean, if someone a business owner comes to me and they have, you know, a problem of communication, in the business. Chances are if they're the business owner, they're probably part of this, problem. So So we need to kind of loosen up how they loosen up their perspective, kinda how you brought up earlier. They need to loosen up their perspective on everything. And first, have them understand that they need to take responsibility for whatever problem It's going on in their business. Because if they don't take responsibility, it's gonna be hard to get through to them on everything else. Yeah.

Alex Morgan [00:12:57]:

So that's the first thing we need to do, And then we need to work with them and give them all the, you know, different communication tools and make sure that they're satisfied, and then I would usually probably go out to the, you know, make sure to please them and then go out to the to the team and teach them, the things as well. But I probably work on some limiting beliefs and stuff as well, within a business so everyone can get rid of certain limiting beliefs and get on the Same page.

Aidan Noone [00:13:28]:

Mhmm. Language is so important, and the words that we use are so important. And to what extent in your opinion, can we become entrapped by our language?

Alex Morgan [00:13:42]:

Well, in hypnosis and NLP, we say, say it the way you want it. So The the most common example, I would say, is probably a lot of people get entrapped with using The negative, so things like don't or can't

Aidan Noone [00:14:01]:

Yeah.

Alex Morgan [00:14:01]:

Yeah. And things like this when the unconscious mind isn't actually registering these words. So if someone says don't fall or don't expect this, they're actually telling themselves to fall or expecting this because the unconscious mind doesn't pick up on it. So I would say this, if they can change it to a more, have a positive spin. Reframe it a bit. I think this will kind of start to have their world changed for them.

Aidan Noone [00:14:28]:

Sort of to be more outcome oriented. Exactly. Exactly. Yes. In other words, what what you want to happen as opposed to what you don't want to happen.

Alex Morgan [00:14:37]:

Correct. I think this is probably the one of the easiest ways that people get kind of entrapped in their language and thinking is thinking like this. And this

Aidan Noone [00:14:46]:

is SimpleChange. Give me an example of that,

Alex Morgan [00:14:50]:

Alex. Yeah. I mean, if someone's saying that they You know, someone's telling me to do something, and they say, hey. Don't don't, you know, Don't drive the car like this, for example. I'm immediately thinking, well, I'm gonna drive the car like they told me. So then I have to go in, And then I have to take a whole extra step. Like, hey. How do I actually wanna drive the car or turn the car, whatever it is? And then I could do it, but it takes a whole extra step knowing I No.

Alex Morgan [00:15:22]:

Only because I know these things. If someone doesn't know these things, then that's how people get trapped in this thinking because they don't know the way out of it. So that would just be a simple everyday example, someone just giving you instructions while driving or something like this.

Aidan Noone [00:15:37]:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now you are the author of, 3 books, and you're currently writing your 4th book. So tell us about that. Tell us about, your the the the books that you have published. It's funny because I never I

Alex Morgan [00:15:56]:

never really had, like, thinking I'm gonna be a published author or anything like this. And then once I got into, you know, a subject that I enjoyed, I just figured, hey. Why not just start writing about it and putting my Thoughts on paper because everyone has a book or two inside of them if they just wanna, put it out there. So the 1st book I wrote, it's It's a guide to, how to let go of negative emotions. So that's the title of how to let go of negative emotions. So it really goes deep into, what the The major negative emotions are, so you can recognize them and how you can release them. Anger, Sadness, fear, hurt, guilt, and certain people will have major emotions depending on, you know, maybe regret for things like this as well depending on their situation. So it tells you different things that you can do to let go of negative emotions Would be that would be my 1st, book.

Alex Morgan [00:17:00]:

And, my second one, it's pro hypnosis script. So it just has a lot of, Hypnosis scripts for different things, so how you can achieve things like confidence, weight loss, stress, lessened stress, stuff like that.

Aidan Noone [00:17:13]:

I mean

Alex Morgan [00:17:14]:

And My third one

Aidan Noone [00:17:16]:

Well, can I just, cycle back a little bit with regard to the hypnosis scripts? Yeah. You know, everybody's experience is different, and everybody operates out of it. Let's say, to use an expression, a different paradigm. Like, to what extent, you know, are hypnosis scripts useful? Or can are they useful for everybody, or does do you use the same script for everybody? You know what I'm

Alex Morgan [00:17:50]:

getting at? Yeah. Me, personally. When I work with someone because they have their own paradigm or Another way of putting it too is, every kind of phrase or word or picture they have, it's all like a metaphor, a story, Their own story. So I usually just start off with a blank piece of paper, and write down all the keywords and phrases that they're using. Because When I use those later for them, it's really good. They're gonna be like, wow. That really makes the change remain, and you could see that, you know, on their face, of course, when we're, watching them. I think scripts, especially when, let's say, first starting out, It it helps you get ideas.

Alex Morgan [00:18:33]:

It helps you get, creative. I would never, let's say, you know, read 1 word for word because you wanna keep in mind, the client. However, I think for someone who's just starting out, it gives them a good base and a good guideline to kind of Know how to structure things and how to, you know, when to use Certain things or different visualizations or metaphors or whatever it is. K. It gives them sort of, like, a a baseline and a structure to use.

Aidan Noone [00:19:06]:

Mhmm. And, you know, because everybody, everybody, has a different applies a different meaning Two different words. You know? And, that's that's something that, I think is important That we, as therapist hypnotherapist hypnotherapist specifically, that we are aware that, you know, not all scripts Are suitable for every

Alex Morgan [00:19:34]:

client? Correct. Because let's say I'm at I'm working with someone, and I say, hey. Like, how will you know, you know, when you achieved your goal or whatever it is? The phrase that they're gonna use It's gonna be different from the phrase I'm gonna u be using, different from the phrase you're gonna be using. So, of course, if we Know what questions to ask and things like this, we can extract the information. However, if we have a, say, a script where you can kinda Plug and play with different things. You could then use some little patter from a script, then also put in their Words to really freshen up things for them because that's what they're paying us for, essentially.

Aidan Noone [00:20:19]:

Yeah. Yeah. Because everybody's experience is different, And everybody has different needs and wants. And it's it's it's probably the the role Of the therapist to, you know, meet and match the client where they're at and to bring them or take them to where they want to go, what would you say about that?

Alex Morgan [00:20:41]:

That's a very good point, because the client essentially, what we're doing is Connecting them to the resources that they have inside themselves to actually solve their problem. So if I was the client, my resources may be much different from a client that I'm we're working with. So we need to, you know, kinda shake up how they view the world right now enough to where it opens them up so they can really go inside And find, like, I already have this. I know how to do it. And then once they start making those unconscious connections, everything gets easier.

Aidan Noone [00:21:23]:

Yeah. I I like I love the expression shake them up because oftentimes, you know, we become very stuck. You know, the stuckness and this is almost as if it's like a a solid block. You know? And you need to break open that to To shatter that, you know, to come back to beliefs, you know, to shatter that belief that they have, you know, and and check it up in such a way that, Well, for for momentarily, they they almost feel as if they're they don't know where they're out where they're at. But then the pieces just Come back together and then you in a much more enhancing

Alex Morgan [00:22:00]:

way. Yeah. And then they may even be, Like, have a little confusion because they haven't necessarily learned something like this before. They haven't heard something we said before. Yeah. And the good The good thing about confusion is is once they're at confusion, that's usually right after is when they have a breakthrough or they're gonna learn something that's very insightful for them. And the great thing about hypnosis, they may learn something, let's say, today, right now as we're recording this. Yeah.

Alex Morgan [00:22:30]:

However, they'll be able to use it Next week, next month, next year, as long as it's useful for them.

Aidan Noone [00:22:38]:

Uh-huh. That's wonderful. I'll go back to the books now. The the the next book, the the 3rd book you have written is

Alex Morgan [00:22:50]:

the third one is the transformative power of suggestion. So this one, it's actually gonna be plenty. Yeah. This one's gonna be part of a new series I'm writing, so it's gonna be the transformative power of different things. This one was suggestions. So this one is all about how we can create suggestions. So even if someone's not a hypnotist, They could read this book, and it's a complete guide how they could create very successful language patterns that can change The thinking of themselves

Aidan Noone [00:23:24]:

Oh.

Alex Morgan [00:23:24]:

And others. So they'll have ways to influence and persuade others, in a way that's beneficial for them and the other person. So that's what this one's all about.

Aidan Noone [00:23:36]:

And, of course, we all know about the power of advertising, Particularly, advertising, you know, and radio advertising. And, you know, to to what extent in your opinion, Alex, You know, are we being manipulated as it were?

Alex Morgan [00:23:53]:

Well, we I would say we were we could be manipulated as much as we allow it to happen. So, actually, if you read the book and you understood some of the language patterns, you would know what these Advertising's, advertisements are doing on TV or social media. And you would probably be able to sniff them out a bit and recognize What they're doing, and you'd probably be less and less, manipulated. So

Aidan Noone [00:24:21]:

Yeah. I often think that, you know, there are many, What would you call it, reputable, charities out there, you know, particularly particularly when you hear the charities maybe for some Who advertised maybe they were saying that there was a a famine somewhere, you know, and then you hear the expression. If you believe that children shouldn't suffer, you know, this And they're tapping into, you know, your beliefs and your empathy. And it's very, very powerful. No. And By by all means, I'm saying, by all means, support these charities. I'm just giving an example, or clarifying what I'm getting at here. What's your take on that?

Alex Morgan [00:25:01]:

Well, they'll say that, and then they'll say something. They only they'll only need $1 per day or something. Yeah. So it's almost like, you know, in NLP, we have the reframing and sleight of mouth. It's almost like you're then reframing into the The person's values to guilt them a little bit to get them to be oh, yeah. I feel so bad. I might as well do this. So I think they're doing a bit of this.

Alex Morgan [00:25:25]:

Whether or not it's, You know, ethical or not, of course, this would be why you wouldn't, you know, give money or not. So Right. That's why people, when they give money, they like to give money and also things that they believe in because, like you said, beliefs. So I think that's important to consider.

Aidan Noone [00:25:41]:

Yeah. Yeah. Now your 4th book is in the making. Tell us about

Alex Morgan [00:25:47]:

that. This one's gonna be the transformative power of NLP. So it'll be the 2nd book in the series. I'm writing it now. I have, I think, like, a 130 something pages. So I'll probably finish writing it soon, and it'll be released, I think, like, early 2024. I just like to give myself time to get things Yeah. Set how I want it.

Alex Morgan [00:26:10]:

Thank you. But this one will be great for, anyone who has no idea, what NLP is, I go through some of the history and the practice of, modeling. So when we find someone who does excellent. We wanna be able to install that in ourselves so we can do it excellent too. So I go ahead and

Aidan Noone [00:26:30]:

Yeah. Can you clarify that, before I forget my interruption, With regard to modeling. So that just to sort of maybe we'd we'd slow that down and maybe just give us give us an example of Modeling of what? What do you mean by modeling?

Alex Morgan [00:26:47]:

Okay. So modeling is essentially taking, Behavior that someone does in a really excellent way, and we want to be able to understand how that they do it. We don't need to know so much what they do. We wanna understand how they do it in their head Yeah. What beliefs what beliefs they have about it, What they value when they're doing, this thing, how do they get feedback. So then if we were to do this, we need to know, like, Well, how do we get feedback? What should we believe? And then we can empower ourself with all of these, things. So I go into a little bit about modeling Because let's say I wanna learn how to, you know, start a podcast, for example. Well, I'm gonna go to someone that I think has a really excellent podcast, and I can find out how that How it is that they do what they do, and then I would follow the same steps that they told me.

Alex Morgan [00:27:44]:

I would believe the same things about podcasting that they do that I could, Let's say, have a successful podcast or whatever it is. Yeah. And then I could do it. Or if I wanted to get really good at hypnosis, I would Go to someone who I think is excellent at this and have them teach me what to do. So the the whole purpose of modeling too is to find out how someone does it does it? So then you could also teach others. Hey. I found something really great. Let me show you how to do this too.

Alex Morgan [00:28:09]:

I think it's Sharing knowledge with the world is what's awesome about it.

Aidan Noone [00:28:13]:

Mhmm. It's it's like, you know, it's the the structure Of what what they do, it's not necessarily the content within it, but the structure. And you build it's like kind of building any house or Or building. Well, you you build the the frame, and then you you embellish upon that if if if that's the correct word.

Alex Morgan [00:28:37]:

Yeah. We wanna yeah. I think that's a great way of looking at it, the the structure, because it's we're finding out, Like, their strategy, which is essentially, like, what's going on in their head when they're doing this thing. Because if You knew, like, hey, how to start a podcast. Okay. Probably get a camera, get a microphone. Like, everyone could find this information. But someone who's really good at it, Like, how are they actually, you know, doing it, making it so successful? That's the, like, the real knowledge, the wisdom that we wanna know.

Aidan Noone [00:29:12]:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's important. Now tell me something, Alex, about yourself that not many people know.

Alex Morgan [00:29:24]:

Not many people know. Well, I'm left handed for 1. Everyone knows that, but that's a Okay. A rare thing. I was, I was a real strict vegetarian for about 3 years as well.

Aidan Noone [00:29:36]:

So But what happened?

Alex Morgan [00:29:39]:

I moved to Greece, and, if anyone's ever seen the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding when, he's he was a vegetarian too. So I can easily relate to this. And he goes to the house, like, okay. Well, you can still eat chicken or you can still eat this. Right? So you have to I had to kinda learn and adapt, let's say. Yeah. Yeah. So I I I don't eat, all meat, but I eat things to kinda blend in and make it easy for everyone, let's say.

Aidan Noone [00:30:07]:

Mhmm. Mhmm. Good. Thank you for that. I I just like to show the spanner in the works. You know? Yeah. Now, okay, the world of hypnosis, hypnotherapy, and and neurolinguistic programming, If if somebody's you know, somebody out there didn't know anything about these fields and they have a particular issue, Say, for example, if if we come back to stress and burnout or maybe, even sleep issues or even depression. So how can hypnotherapy and hypnosis and neurolinguistic programming, how can it help me If I need to sleep better maybe or to change something that I, I've been battling with for many years.

Alex Morgan [00:31:02]:

Yeah. So I think the actually, another thing that many people don't know is I've almost been, sober now for 10 years, so that's something I like to Hang my hat on a bit. Congratulations. I just thought of that. I was like, I should've said that. The the way it really I think hypnosis can really help is depending on the type of, hypnosis. You know, some people progress to cause, some don't. So we could find out the cause.

Alex Morgan [00:31:33]:

Like, what is the cause of this issue and then release that, and that often removes all the emotions, negative emotions that you have, with that. Or we could more focus on how specifically are you not doing something correctly your mind, that's giving you the results that we Yeah. Don't want. And so we figure out a way. We work together by Asking some questions, doing different sessions, different techniques of how can we give you a new strategy so you can get the results that you actually What? Okay. Now we need strategy.

Aidan Noone [00:32:12]:

Yeah. Tell tell me now, for the benefit of of our viewers and listeners, what is a strategy?

Alex Morgan [00:32:18]:

A strategy is, it's essentially a series of different steps that we're gonna do inside of our head, that leads to a specific and consistent, result. So someone who might not be sleeping well, Maybe they get in the bed and they're immediately uncomfortable and they toss and turn. Then they start telling themselves, like, I'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight. So that self talk is part of their strategy, and that's probably why they're not getting the results. However, let's say someone gets in bed and thinks like, hey. This is the most comfortable bed I that I've ever slept in. Obviously, this is a Very simple example. And then they have positive self talk about, you know, maybe Having that condition response of right when they hit the pillow, it's relaxing for them.

Alex Morgan [00:33:09]:

And they tell them, says, hey. I'm gonna have a great night's sleep. So this would be Just a few steps as a of the strategy that someone could change to, get better sleep. Of course, a lot more would go into this, then saying a few things, but that's just an example of the strategy.

Aidan Noone [00:33:27]:

What I'm getting from you, Alex, is, there's there's a process for everything.

Alex Morgan [00:33:32]:

Mhmm. Yeah. Everything that we do

Aidan Noone [00:33:35]:

Yeah. There's a process in it. So we have a beginning, A middle and an end. Would that be correct to say?

Alex Morgan [00:33:43]:

Yes. And I think that's that's a very good point because the end, Of course, we wanna be able to actually exit the strategy so we know, hey. This is done or this is complete. Because if we Yeah. Have it beginning, then we get to the middle, and then we keep looping back and not being able to exit it. Well, then that could actually lead to the problems you mentioned like Stress or lack of sleep or depression, burnout, whatever it is. Because if we can't exit the strategy, we're just gonna be ruminating on those same Thoughts and steps, and we're not gonna actually get anywhere. So it's a very important point that it needs to have an end.

Alex Morgan [00:34:19]:

We need to be able to exit to achieve what we want.

Aidan Noone [00:34:24]:

Yeah. And sometimes I like to think of it in terms of, you know, if you have in in in the states To have, guns. We don't have them here in Ireland. If you take the firing pin out of a gun And you pull the trigger. What happens?

Alex Morgan [00:34:43]:

Well, it's not going to yeah. It's not gonna nothing's going to happen.

Aidan Noone [00:34:47]:

Yeah. So I suppose that's what we're doing in in terms of therapy. We're either taking the firing pin out or replacing with something much more, You know, that's acceptable. And, the outcome is different, but very thanks very much for that. Now the What motivated you to write the book, the series of books on the transformative power, specifically for for example of, NLP?

Alex Morgan [00:35:17]:

You know, I just like to, I enjoy riding, to be honest. I get in, like, a nice, We're kinda, like, into a nice state of flow, and I just love to share, information, with the world. I mean, books, it's a very cheap way to learn a lot of things. I I'm reading constantly, so it kind of involves, like, My passion of reading and writing and also sharing information, that I'm passionate. And as I'm writing, I'm like, oh, wow. I can put it this way, it's kind of like a onetime show. Every time you do a training or podcast, you might say something different than you do next time. So I always find myself kind of learning new things, as well.

Alex Morgan [00:36:00]:

And I just wanna share that with, everyone else and also show people that writing a book is kind of it's not a huge Task like a lot of people think. It's actually easier than many would think. So I kind of like to put that belief out into the world as well.

Aidan Noone [00:36:14]:

Okay. In the world of NLP, who are your favorite

Alex Morgan [00:36:21]:

authors? I have a lot of the The older books, Milton Erickson, even though he's not necessarily, let's say, the one who wrote the book, they come from interviews and things.

Aidan Noone [00:36:32]:

Yeah. They modeled him specifically.

Alex Morgan [00:36:33]:

Yeah. They modeled him. So patterns, but then LP 1 and 2, I have it on behind me, over there. It just it depends, but a lot of those, like, the classics, are the ones that, I like. And Richard Nongard, of course, he mentioned I've read, he has a lot of good books. I've read probably 20 of them if I had to Right. Guess how many. So I would say he's one of my favorites as far as

Aidan Noone [00:37:01]:

now. Right. Right. And we mentioned we touched on it earlier, timeline therapy. I'm honest about that. I think was was it, was it Tad James, I think, has written a definitive book on that?

Alex Morgan [00:37:16]:

Yeah. Yeah. Tad James who, unfortunately, is no longer with us. Yes. Yeah. So he he was curious. Tad James, he's, He was a fantastic, NLP trainer. Has the Tad James company.

Alex Morgan [00:37:31]:

But he was curious about how people actually, like, store emotions in the body and how those can relate, to time. So how our unconscious mind because it's the domain of our emotions, It released his emotions, and then, usually, what people do is they shove them back down. They're like, I'm not ready to deal with this yet. So he was really interested in, if this is happening, How can we actually get rid of these negative emotions? It doesn't mean we'll never feel them again. However, when they come up in the future, we'll have a different story in our mind about these. So I'd say that's kind of, like, the biggest picture of timeline therapy without going into too many details.

Aidan Noone [00:38:11]:

No. No. No. But it is it is a powerful

Alex Morgan [00:38:15]:

intervention. Yeah. I use it, with I use it all the time with clients. It's very powerful.

Aidan Noone [00:38:20]:

Yep. Yeah. And is there anything else now at this juncture that you'd like to, you know, get across To to our, listeners. Because I always say to, you know, people coming on the podcast, don't leave here without saying what you want to say. So what

Alex Morgan [00:38:39]:

do you

Aidan Noone [00:38:40]:

want to say? What's your final parting, you know, comments or, Words of wisdom for our listeners of

Alex Morgan [00:38:49]:

yours. Yeah. I I really appreciate, you having me on, and I've said a lot of what I wanted to say. I don't really rehearse too many things in my head. I kinda just go with the flow. However, one of the the biggest things for me, recently that I think would be really valuable for people is, they need to just Find things, that they enjoy, doing. So, for example, like Yeah. You know, if you didn't enjoy making this Podcast.

Alex Morgan [00:39:20]:

You know, then why would you wanna keep, doing it? Because in my business, I was creating content that I didn't necessarily enjoy doing. So I started finding, like, oh, I can write books or I can do this. So within whatever it is you do, find something that you truly enjoy doing. And over time, because you enjoy doing it, your results will be consistent, and you'll, you know, bring people in who are also happy to, you know, Share the knowledge of success with you. That's how you usually find the clients, I think, because there's nothing, like, stopping you.

Aidan Noone [00:39:54]:

Yeah. And as you said, find something that that you enjoy doing. And the the The other side of that is if you enjoy doing something, you're usually very good at it. And when you're very good at it, you're also You're happy, and you're at your happiest.

Alex Morgan [00:40:15]:

Yeah. You'll you'll feel good about it, and that's I always say one of the biggest benefits of Hypnosis or just doing what you enjoy is essentially feeling good. So who wouldn't want to feel good as much as possible? We don't have to you know, pain can help us. However, why not have a fair amount of pleasure Absolutely. In our reality?

Aidan Noone [00:40:37]:

Absolutely. Great. Now, Alex, how can, our listeners contact you?

Alex Morgan [00:40:46]:

They can go to my website, ww.athansnlp.com. So just The city Athens and then NLP. They can shoot they can shoot me an email, alex at athensnlp.com. Or they can also find me on Instagram. I'm pretty active there. My username there is at Alex Morgan hypnosis. So I would say those are probably the easiest way to find me and get in touch with me. And, you know, I love talking about this stuff.

Alex Morgan [00:41:20]:

So even if it's to to chat or anything, definitely reach out.

Aidan Noone [00:41:26]:

Absolutely. And and it's no harm having a chat. If somebody wants to, you know, talk about something, they can Yeah. You know, reach out to you, and I'm sure you'll get back to them as soon as possible.

Alex Morgan [00:41:36]:

Yeah. I think, the thing is too, a lot in the, let's say, in the hypnosis and coaching world, the messages that people send us, They maybe never told this to someone else before that they might have a problem or something that they, want to work on. So I think what you said of, You know, just the fact that we actually reply and show compassion and, you know, maybe we don't end up working with them or maybe we do, it's a huge step for that person to to reach out. So I encourage anyone to, you know, please reach out to whoever you want, you know, you look up to whoever you want help from, you know, because most of us are willing to show, compassion when we truly like to help people. So I think that's a great point as

Aidan Noone [00:42:21]:

well as well. Excellent. So, Alex Morgan, international master hypnotherapist and Master NLP, trainer. Thank you so much for being with me today on The Professional Hypnotherapist Podcast.

Alex Morgan [00:42:36]:

Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it. Had a lot of fun.

Aidan Noone [00:42:40]:

Bye for now.