John A. O'Connor is a vastly experienced Hypnotherapist based in County Cork, Ireland. John shared his journey into hypnotherapy, emphasising the importance of client participation in the therapeutic and healing process. John also discussed the role of stage hypnosis and potential of hypnotherapy in sports performance and how it is used in politics. John compared his role as a hynotherapist to that of a tour guide, emphasising personal interpretation and exploration beyond the recommended path. Above all John is a man, a hypnnotherapist who walks the talk and this is clearly witnessed when one watches and listens to this podcast.
You may contact John A. O'Connor as follows:
Telephone Number: From outside Ireland +353-87-9394128
Inside Republic of Ireland: 087-939-4128
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John A. O'Connor is a vastly experienced Hypnotherapist based in County Cork, Ireland. John shared his journey into hypnotherapy, emphasising the importance of client participation in the therapeutic and healing process. John also discussed the role of stage hypnosis and potential of hypnotherapy in sports performance and how it is used in politics. John compared his role as a hynotherapist to that of a tour guide, emphasising personal interpretation and exploration beyond the recommended path. Above all John is a man, a hypnnotherapist who walks the talk and this is clearly witnessed when one watches and listens to this podcast.
You may contact John A. O'Connor as follows:
Telephone Number: From outside Ireland +353-87-9394128
Inside Republic of Ireland: 087-939-4128
Hi there, thanks for listening and please like this podcast where you listen to your podcasts.
The European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists is a group of like-minded hypnotherapists who are accredited professionals in their field. Many of our therapists have many many years of experience behind them which means you are probably in the best possible hands, available to you.
Why not pop on over to eaph.ie and choose the hypnotherapist that suits you. Many provide online hypnotherapy. eaph.ie
We welcome feedback on your listening experience at eaph.ie
Aidan Noone [00:00:00]:
Okay, John O'Connor. You're very welcome to The Professional Hypnotherapist Podcast.
John A. O'Connor [00:00:06]:
Thank you very much, Aidan. Thank you for the invitation.
Aidan Noone [00:00:10]:
And, John, maybe you just tell us initially, where are you in practice in Ireland?
John A. O'Connor [00:00:15]:
I am down on West Cork. Okay. South of South of Connolly in Ardfield. Right. Right on the coast. So I have a beautiful view of the Atlantic Ocean to my to my left. Yeah.
Aidan Noone [00:00:30]:
Lovely.
John A. O'Connor [00:00:30]:
Right.
Aidan Noone [00:00:30]:
That's that's much that's that's beautiful. It is. Anytime of the year.
John A. O'Connor [00:00:36]:
Well, I hear the locals give out about the weather, and I'm wondering what they're giving out about because the weather is beautiful down here every day Yeah. In my opinion. Yeah. Yeah.
Aidan Noone [00:00:47]:
So for those people watching us from from abroad, maybe particularly America, Tell us again where you are so that we get this in our heads.
John A. O'Connor [00:00:55]:
So it's right down on the the heel of Ireland rather than the toe. And so if you look at the map of Ireland, it's right down on the the hill of the country in. So, I'm developing a a residential holistic practice center. It's it's taken a lot more work than I anticipated, and, but we're making great progress. I'm doing that with my partner, Elaine. Yeah.
Aidan Noone [00:01:29]:
Oh, excellent. Right. Well, congratulations on every success. But today, you know, the the purpose of this, podcast is is to talk about indeed to talk about you and to talk about your, I work as a hypnotherapist, and the vast, what would I call it? The breadth of knowledge that you bring with you and experience in in your previous existence, if you want to call it that way. So how how, John, did you get into the world of hypnotherapy and indeed healing, if you want to call it that?
John A. O'Connor [00:02:06]:
Well, the the initial mind over matter thing, as I call it, and Yeah. Was through the study of martial arts In the 19 seventies.
Aidan Noone [00:02:17]:
Right.
John A. O'Connor [00:02:18]:
And I studied with a man named George Canning.
Aidan Noone [00:02:21]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:02:22]:
And I remember George brought a grand master over from, I think it was Japan, to Show us the ultimate end of martial arts, but that man in turn was actually a healer. And and the the philosophy was everyone can hurt. And if they can hurt, they can heal, but only if they want to. And that would have been a spark. And then my 1st introduction to hypnosis was, doctor Jack Gibson.
Aidan Noone [00:03:00]:
He was Oh, yes. Yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:03:02]:
Yeah. In Kildare. Yeah. And he was on the late HR, and I was absolutely blown away by him. Yeah. And I've I've Studied as much as I can his work, which is absolutely international. It's equal to everything that Milton Erickson has done. So he like, he is an unsung hero Yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:03:29]:
In in in Ireland.
Aidan Noone [00:03:31]:
There are lots of them.
John A. O'Connor [00:03:34]:
I
Aidan Noone [00:03:34]:
beg your pardon? There are. I said there are lots of them, unsung heroes. But can I just interrupt rupture for a moment? And you mentioned that you can heal only if you want to or something like that.
John A. O'Connor [00:03:46]:
Yes. Yes. So
Aidan Noone [00:03:48]:
Maybe you develop that point for me because that's something that that I'm really interested in.
John A. O'Connor [00:03:54]:
So a lot of people will go to all kinds of practitioner including conventional, Conventional medicine practitioners. Yeah. And they expect them, the practitioner, to do all the heavy lifting. You actually have to engage emotionally and physically with the person you're seeking help from. And the simplest way is eye contact and handshake. Mhmm. And for those In the hypnotherapy world, we all know about the importance of the handshake and eye contact.
Aidan Noone [00:04:32]:
Yes.
John A. O'Connor [00:04:33]:
But that goes right across all healing modalities.
Aidan Noone [00:04:38]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:04:39]:
So if you go to hospital And you're brought into the emergency department. It's very important if you're in a position to actually shake hands with the Doctor, our nurse, that's actually dealing with you.
Aidan Noone [00:04:54]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:04:55]:
And that initial contact subliminally Says I'm here to get better. I need your help.
Aidan Noone [00:05:02]:
So, yeah, what I'm getting from you is that you're the the person seeking the help Has to be an active participant.
John A. O'Connor [00:05:10]:
Absolutely.
Aidan Noone [00:05:11]:
Yeah. So there's no and and that that is something that, you know, is is relevant for All forms of therapy. And particularly as we sort of segue into hypnosis and hypnotherapy that Some people out there think that, you know, oh, I'm going to have hypnosis done to me. Would you would you comment on that?
John A. O'Connor [00:05:33]:
You're not going no. It's it's so many people believe that and that comes, I believe, from their Experience of stage hypnosis. Yeah. Now stage hypnosis is hugely important. It's like the shop window for the power of This modality. But, again, the hypnotist or the hypnotherapist, I like them to the tour guide. I want to go on a tour. I want to get the best value from the tour.
John A. O'Connor [00:06:08]:
I'm dependent on the tour guide to show me the highlights on the tour. How I interpret them is my business. And if I want to wander off the trail that they recommend, that's okay too, but I still want the best experience possible on the tour.
Aidan Noone [00:06:29]:
Excellent. Excellent. You mentioned that it's a powerful modality.
John A. O'Connor [00:06:35]:
Hugely powerful.
Aidan Noone [00:06:36]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:06:37]:
And, again, through my I would have been a very skeptical of Very skeptical of hypnosis as the modality until
Aidan Noone [00:06:50]:
the Can I just say I beg your pardon? Can I just mention there that, you know, for the benefit of our viewers and listeners, that you initially When you when you started out in your career, you were an engineer?
John A. O'Connor [00:07:06]:
Yes. And and if I can go yeah. If I can actually bring you back a little further. Yeah. So I I start started life as a mechanic, and I bought a mechanic. Then the 1st real recession of my lifetime, which was in the End of the seventies, early eighties, hit Ireland, and I joined the army.
Aidan Noone [00:07:30]:
Right.
John A. O'Connor [00:07:30]:
So I trained At every chance I got, and I became a specialist within the Irish army. Then I left. I worked as a mechanic very hard. Always interested in people, but I ended up working on machines.
Aidan Noone [00:07:51]:
Nice.
John A. O'Connor [00:07:52]:
And then I had the opportunity or I had a brain fart one day. I had to go back to school to improve my life.
Aidan Noone [00:08:01]:
Yes.
John A. O'Connor [00:08:01]:
I went for 6 months. I stayed 7 years, and I ended up lecturing in engineering.
Aidan Noone [00:08:08]:
Okay. Lovely.
John A. O'Connor [00:08:10]:
So That's I That's some Yeah.
Aidan Noone [00:08:12]:
Some progression.
John A. O'Connor [00:08:14]:
It's it's, yeah, quite a progression. A lot of sacrifice, not just on my part, if my family, they pay the sacrifice also. And it has been worthwhile. It has. Mhmm. But I always had an interest then in Performance more so than hypnotherapy or hypnosis. But hypnosis And performance to me are hand in glove.
Aidan Noone [00:08:48]:
Mhmm. Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:08:49]:
So in sports performance, the 1st person I ever heard speak about visualization and focus was Jack Nicklaus when he was the king of the ring in golfing. And then Sethi Ballesteros actually followed suit and became the ultimate golfer. If you look at all the top sports people in the world, they're all using some form of Our hypnosis are both. And some of the biggest names, Tony Robbins. He's a hypnotist. It's not just my opinion, but the most powerful hypnotist in the world Is somebody who's showing great interest in a big white house in Washington at the moment. Right. And if you watch the way he delivers, it's fundamental.
John A. O'Connor [00:09:49]:
It's simple. It's hugely effective, and millions of people follow him. I purposely won't mention his name because For quite a while, every one of us, even in Ireland, could not go a day without mentioning that man's name.
Aidan Noone [00:10:09]:
Right.
John A. O'Connor [00:10:11]:
That's the most powerful hypnosis I've ever seen.
Aidan Noone [00:10:15]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:10:15]:
The only other person I can think of who had that much influence was Jesus Christ.
Aidan Noone [00:10:22]:
Mhmm. Okay.
John A. O'Connor [00:10:25]:
When you look at, Adolf Hitler, I know these are controversial figures. He used this extremely well. Genghis Khan. When you look at Genghis Khan, without a doubt, the man was a hypnotist. Hugely influential. And all politicians today are using elements of NLP, which is hypnosis by a different name. Yeah. So it's a huge hugely powerful and modality.
John A. O'Connor [00:11:06]:
And in the right hands and used with the best intentions, I think it's unbeatable.
Aidan Noone [00:11:14]:
Mhmm. Absolutely. Yeah. And, indeed, you mentioned in the right hands, and, you know, that the whole area as as you You and I, we belong to the European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists, and it's a, we subscribe to a code of professional ethics and conduct. And that is so important in today's world. Would you comment on that, John?
John A. O'Connor [00:11:40]:
It's hugely important because we're a beneficial part of welfare. Not just physical, Both mental, emotional, and spiritual welfare.
Aidan Noone [00:11:52]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:11:53]:
And the Quick fix solution. If I can make a comparison between fine dining and A burger chain with twin arches. You can get immediate satisfaction under the twin arches. You may have to wait a little while for fine dining, but the experience is going to be worlds apart. And hypnotherapy and hypnosis in the right hands is fine dining at its very best, And it's tailored specifically for the person who's receiving it.
Aidan Noone [00:12:40]:
Excellent.
John A. O'Connor [00:12:41]:
We're We we can have very fast quick fix hypnosis and hypnotherapy. That's like The burger from the Twin Arches. It will satisfy for a moment or maybe for a short while, but it's long term effect. It doesn't have a long term effect.
Aidan Noone [00:13:03]:
Mhmm. Yeah. That's that's important to get that message across. So just stretching back a little bit in terms of of your background. So you you you were a mechanic, then you became an engineer, and you were lectured. But yet all the time, John, you had this interest in people. You mentioned that previously. For sure.
Aidan Noone [00:13:24]:
This interest in people. This is sort of seemed to be A motivating factor for you.
John A. O'Connor [00:13:31]:
Absolutely. And the biggest opportunity I got All I received was when I lectured in college. And here I was given charge of students and their education. And like so many have witnessed, they can either wither away their opportunity or they can actually Thrive. So the challenge for me was to make those that would prefer to wither away their opportunity, actually show them how to thrive. So rather than me teach them, I actually encourage them to learn. And they learned by challenging Jean, what I might say. And it became a competition then, somewhat.
John A. O'Connor [00:14:21]:
And then as they progressed and they did learn and I could see their growth, they would wither when it would come to exam. And that's when I developed exam protocol, which I call the exam pass or the, SAS protocol. Stress and succeed. You cannot beat you cannot avoid stress when it comes to an exam. So you embrace the stress, you use the energy, and you do succeed.
Aidan Noone [00:14:55]:
Excellent. And, you know, you you preempted my next question because, you know, we're we're going to go on and talk about, the the exam protocol that you have. And you also mentioned there about stress. And, you know, we we we do need stress. Stress, Some element of stress, but not overbearing stress, or, what's the column? But we don't need we don't need the the too much cortisol. Isn't that that a byproduct of stress? Would you comment on that?
John A. O'Connor [00:15:28]:
Well, I can't. So stress is like fire for heat. If you can control the fire, you can actually heat your life and your your surroundings. If you don't control the fire, You have an inferno. Stresses like that. Uncontrolled stress becomes overwhelming and an inferno that will engulf you. And I have firsthand experience where I ultimately tested hypnosis. So in 2016, I suffered a severe stroke.
John A. O'Connor [00:16:07]:
And the words that the the neurologist said to me were, Mister O'Connor, you've had a massive stroke, and you may not walk or talk again. Now I was unaware. I knew I had paralysis, but I was unaware I couldn't talk. So internally, I was roaring, shouting at this man. F you. You don't know what you're talking about. It took some time, 48 hours, to be honest. And I was over that Huge episode because I said to myself, if this shit works as in if this hypnosis works.
John A. O'Connor [00:16:58]:
I have to explain to you. When somebody has the stroke, their language goes extremely blue. Very blue. So if this stuff works, It's going to work now. And all I wanted was to wiggle my toes. That's all I wanted. And once I got wiggling my toes, I knew I would guess all the way back to my brain, and I get movement. So 2 days In high dependency word, I got out of bed.
John A. O'Connor [00:17:31]:
I I was going to the toilet. That's all I wanted to do was go to the toilet. I had a catheter in, and anyone that has had a catheter When it's attached to the bed and you attempt to go to the toilet, it is a great way of checking your movement. So the only thing that stopped me going to the toilet that day was in the. I knew I was back on the road to recovery. I was in bed number 1, high dependency, which is the highest part is that I'm the most dependent on the expert help. And I decided I was moving to bed number 5, And after 2 days, I moved to bed number 5. Now you'd go bed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5678 and out.
John A. O'Connor [00:18:26]:
I decided to go to bed number 5 for whatever reason. And then within another 4 days, I was out of high dependency ward.
Aidan Noone [00:18:37]:
So you're prime example?
John A. O'Connor [00:18:40]:
It's it's literally the choices I had were I would prefer to be dead than paralyzed. And I mean that, and I have no fear of that whatsoever. So I had to get out of there, And I couldn't wait for doctors to decide my face. So after 6 months In 2016, I had to go in front of a board of neurologists to get my life back, to be allowed to operate, to be allowed to drive, to be allowed to just be normal. They were extremely reluctant. They wanted to wait another 6 months, which my patience was at its end. So I did a demonstration for them, if you like. I challenged them That there were doctors and hadn't even checked my blood pressure to which they were surprised.
John A. O'Connor [00:19:47]:
So one of them Check my blood pressure. And while he was doing this, I dropped my blood pressure. I dropped my heart rate, and I dropped my Oxygen saturation all at the same time while still talking to him. Now that's what you can do with hypnosis Because all hypnosis is self hypnosis. So going back to your earlier question about Getting hypnosis done to you. No. No. You're not.
John A. O'Connor [00:20:21]:
You're going to learn how to do hypnosis for yourself in the hands of an excellent practitioner.
Aidan Noone [00:20:30]:
Excellent. Well, that that's a You're a prime I was going to say you're a prime example of somebody who knows exactly what you're talking about, and you've demonstrated it in your own life. Well done.
John A. O'Connor [00:20:43]:
Well, thank you very much. And if if I could bore you slightly
Aidan Noone [00:20:47]:
Well, definitely, you're not boring me. I can find this absolutely fascinating and, You know, I want to hear more, please.
John A. O'Connor [00:20:55]:
Well, on New Year's Eve of this year, I was getting ready to Go and enjoy New Year's Eve like so many. I had a shower. I was walking up the stairs, And I just felt, oh, oh, something wrong here. Woozy. Like that. That's all I can that was the feeling. By the time I got to the top of the stairs, I realized I was having a stroke. That's only a few weeks ago.
Aidan Noone [00:21:25]:
Right.
John A. O'Connor [00:21:28]:
The ambulance was called. I called the ambulance. I spoke to the ambulance controller.
Aidan Noone [00:21:34]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:21:35]:
They ran me through the fast protocol, which I also know.
Aidan Noone [00:21:39]:
Yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:21:40]:
And the the Huge importance for me was to actually keep from here up working. So you talk in a very An amazing way to keep the activity working from the neck up. I had lost my left side again, and I was rushed to hospital in Cork. It's colloquially known as As the Wilton Hilton, Cork University Hospital. As we were going in the ambulance, the stroke actually got worse. Right. And the paramedics are limited in what they can do when they have you in the ambulance. So the only movement I had, if you can see, I'd lost everything and I got this going.
John A. O'Connor [00:22:30]:
And that's all I had. That little bit of movement. Finger and thumb. Mhmm. And once I had that, I knew I'd get the rest.
Aidan Noone [00:22:40]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:22:40]:
So They treat me very quickly, very expediently, and brilliantly in the hospital. And then I was moved to the high dependency ward, And I actually asked, where's the load dependency ward? And they pointed to that room, and I said I'd be there in 2 days. I was there in 2 days.
Aidan Noone [00:23:03]:
Our pleasure. And just you mentioned about, you know, Touching your your thumb and your forefinger together. How did you know that if you got that, that you'd be okay? What what was it that told you that?
John A. O'Connor [00:23:18]:
I honestly don't have the answer, but Right. The sensation of losing your your mobility It's quite surreal. It's like you can look at it. You can see your hand. You can see your arm. See your leg, But you have no connection with us. It's like it's somebody else's arm and leg.
Aidan Noone [00:23:39]:
It's dissociation. Yes. Yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:23:41]:
Yes. So by me getting movements now to explain, I would have looked a bit funny because the paramedic in the ambulance with me was concerned that something was happening. So I just had to push my right hand up and just tell her give her the thumbs up. I'm okay. And then explain to her what I had just done. And she's there like, I've never seen this before. I've never seen this before. So it's it's in the level of concentration and focus is absolutely powerful.
Aidan Noone [00:24:21]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And, yeah, following on from that, John, that fascinating story and and, you know, demonstration of, You know, the your ability and and and your your dedication to doing this, work. You you also off air, we mentioned that you were you also, focus on chronic pain, The alleviation of chronic pain. Would you comment on that, please?
John A. O'Connor [00:24:50]:
Well, chronic pain, can be caused by trauma And generally is caused by trauma. But it has been present in our lives and in our bodies for so long that it develops its own memory. And when the physical body has recovered to whatever extent, The pain can actually still stay at its full impedance. And it's the memory that That keeps the pain level alive, not the actual physical trauma. Or it may be some other it could be an emotional trauma. Either way, it was caused by a trauma. It was in the past that trauma has changed by By some means or other, and the pain levels still stay high. So you treat the memory of the pain or the pain memory as I call it.
Aidan Noone [00:25:52]:
Mhmm. Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:25:54]:
I I had an experience with a lady who I accidentally again walked into her shop. And she was in a wheelchair 17 years, And she had never known what it was like not to have pain. And when I reached to hold her hand, She actually winced and pulled away from me. But all I did was speak to her, and that's all I knew. I was Follow-up and meet her again. Her husband refused to let me see her because he was, How would I say? He was a puritanical Catholic. And what I did did not fit with his beliefs. But I met her son some months later on the street, and he said you give mommy The best 6 months of her life.
John A. O'Connor [00:26:52]:
She actually passed away. Oh. And it it would have been 6 months, yeah, after I had met him. She had just passed away peacefully, and he said he could not remember her Being in so comfortable. And all I did was talk to the lady.
Aidan Noone [00:27:13]:
Isn't that a wonderful testimony to, you know, the power of words and the power of just being present to somebody? And would you comment, John, if if you if you don't mind, briefly, about the power of words and How important that is to use words in the correct manner.
John A. O'Connor [00:27:36]:
Well, I I'll quote another hero of mine, Bruce Lee, who I also consider to have been a fantastic hypnotist. He was a great martial artist, But he was very much mind more than physical. And, As as Bruce Lee says, words cast spells. That's why we call the construction of a word spelling.
Aidan Noone [00:28:06]:
Interesting. Love it. Absolutely. You know? And and how many times, John, do we you know, we do a lot of self talk ourselves. And how many times are we putting ourself ourselves into, you know, a spell or a or a trance? The chance of all the
John A. O'Connor [00:28:22]:
time. Yeah. Yeah. All the time, I would say. Yeah.
Aidan Noone [00:28:27]:
Yeah. Yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:28:28]:
And the other thing, There's an awful lot of emphasis on positive talk. And if you look at a magnets, There's a positive and negative or a north and south on the. You know, yin and yang effectively are positive and negative. We cannot live without negativity. We actually need an element of negativity. We need to have bad days like today so we can appreciate the good days of the summer. We need nighttime to rest so we can enjoy daytime. And negativity also Balances our life.
John A. O'Connor [00:29:17]:
When we have a negative experience, it helps us to really Appreciate the positive experience. So too much positivity is like sugar. Too much sugar will make you diabetic. Too much positivity will make you an emotional diabetic.
Aidan Noone [00:29:35]:
Yeah. Absolutely. And it's it's it's all about this. You know, it's all about being unholistic, point of view and holistic living and leading an unholistic life. As you mentioned, it's about balance.
John A. O'Connor [00:29:50]:
Yes. Yes. And when we when we look at holistic life, and I can Speak somewhat on this one. There's a huge emphasis on academic achievement. Academic achievement is only one element of vacation and intelligence, and it's only a small element, I believe. There are many Artists, be they brush and paint artists or musical artists or stage artists who have no formal education, but they're absolute genius. One that comes to mind is sir Anthony Hopkins.
Aidan Noone [00:30:32]:
Oh, yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:30:36]:
Yeah. Absolute genius of stage. Yeah. So We cannot place all emphasis on academic achievement.
Aidan Noone [00:30:46]:
No.
John A. O'Connor [00:30:47]:
And then we all Appreciate tradesmen. Everybody here, everybody listening will experience A tradesman of some sort, be it a builder, a painter, a plumber, or an electrician. They were considered academic dropouts Because they didn't go and get a degree or go to 3rd level college. But we can all go through life without ever meeting an accountant Or indeed a surgeon. Or pick any of the degrees out there that you like, but we cannot get through life without a tradesman or a tradeswoman.
Aidan Noone [00:31:32]:
Yeah.
John A. O'Connor [00:31:34]:
So the the the the point I'm making, a holistic approach, is a little piece of everything and mix them together. And the best example of that is a good Irish stew. It's made up of many ingredients, and it definitely The nourishes body and soul.
Aidan Noone [00:31:54]:
Absolutely. Well done. Well said indeed. Well said. And, is there anything else John, that you want to get across before we, end the podcast. Well, there is I I'm going to put
John A. O'Connor [00:32:08]:
a shout out for all my colleagues who are hypnotherapists.
Aidan Noone [00:32:12]:
Right.
John A. O'Connor [00:32:13]:
And and for anyone that has a doubt about hypnosis and hypnotherapy.
Aidan Noone [00:32:18]:
Mhmm.
John A. O'Connor [00:32:19]:
I have an analogy of us. Yeah. We can all appreciate orchestral music. We may not like it, but we can appreciate it. And the music is performed by many different sections of the orchestra and many different instruments. However, there's only 1 conductor, And there can only be 1 conductor, and there can only be 1 leader of the orchestra. So a cooperation between the leader and the Doctor will bring the best performance from the orchestra. So those that are considering hypnotherapy, If they consider themselves as the orchestra, and they are actually leading the way to the conductor, the hypnotherapist.
John A. O'Connor [00:33:13]:
With a little bit of practice, They will actually do a symphony.
Aidan Noone [00:33:19]:
Mhmm. Excellent. That that's wonderful. And you're a great man, John, for for the for metaphor, As you speak in metaphors, quite frequently. Would you comment on that?
John A. O'Connor [00:33:32]:
Well, it's, well well documented that Milton Erickson was the expert of hypnotic metaphor. But if you actually study some of the other people even going further back, Every one of them used metaphor. And as a lecturer and a teacher, I actually used metaphor to get Whatever boring subject I had to teach across to the students. Mhmm. So metaphor is the most powerful Tool of learning.
Aidan Noone [00:34:03]:
Yeah. And metaphor and indeed story, you know, we we meet people where they're at, And we take them and we bring them and carry them to where we want to bring them or where they want to go themselves through the use of Words through the use of stories, through the use of metaphor. So, John, how can We contact you.
John A. O'Connor [00:34:32]:
A lot of it is word-of-mouth. In fact, nearly all of it is word-of-mouth. I'm contact contactable on phone. Yeah. I've had A very mixed relationship with the Internet and websites
Aidan Noone [00:34:48]:
and Okay.
John A. O'Connor [00:34:50]:
Those matters. That's under construction or under review at the moment. Mhmm. So a new website is imminent. Oh. And So yeah. Absolute it's it's I'm a reluctant, Internet and social media, baby.
Aidan Noone [00:35:09]:
Okay.
John A. O'Connor [00:35:09]:
And, I have to learn. I have to learn to embrace it. Okay.
Aidan Noone [00:35:13]:
And would you like to give us your phone number?
John A. O'Connor [00:35:16]:
Absolutely. And Yeah. So for those outside of Ireland, it's 0035387 9394 126. No. 128. Sorry. 128.
Aidan Noone [00:35:32]:
Okay. Give her tell us again, please.
John A. O'Connor [00:35:34]:
Yes. So it's, 0 8793 94128. Wonderful.
Aidan Noone [00:35:43]:
Any final points, John?
John A. O'Connor [00:35:46]:
No. I I'm delighted to be a part of the EAPH. I think it's a it's It's a fantastic resource for all of us, not just in Ireland, but across Europe. Yeah. I I look at the the membership growing. I take I applaud Helen Yeah. The way she she's like little Bo Peep minding her sheep.
Aidan Noone [00:36:09]:
Yeah. And I
John A. O'Connor [00:36:10]:
hope our flock gets bigger and bigger. And she does a great job keeping us all in line and current. And also, I'd like to thank you, Aidan, because this podcast is fantastic. It's a fantastic learning tool for all of us, and it's an encouragement on a daily basis.
Aidan Noone [00:36:30]:
Well, thank you, John. And I I have to say I really enjoyed, speaking with you. And, I'm without sounding patronizing, I'm really impressed By your vast knowledge and experience. And any client out there is lucky to have somebody of your caliber Working with them to achieve their results. So John a O'Connor, thank you so much for joining me today. And until the next time. Take care, and bye bye.
John A. O'Connor [00:37:02]:
Thank you very much, Aidan. Have a great day and a great weekend.