Session 0043 - The Irish Hypnotherapy Conference April 5th & 6th 2025

John Scanlon is a dedicated advocate for the recognition of hypnotherapy. His mission is to foster a supportive community of therapists and build momentum for hypnotherapy through conferences and collaborative efforts.

Drawing from his extensive experience with civil servants, John has chosen to focus on grassroots empowerment rather than legislative change. He believes in the power of word-of-mouth and international collaboration, evidenced by the diverse global representation at his conferences, with speakers hailing from Ireland, Europe, the US, and Canada. John's approach centres on creating a network of mutual support among therapists to ultimately benefit those in need.

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Transcript

Aidan Noone [00:00:03]:
Welcome, John Scanlon. Once again, to the hip I the I'm saying the Irish Hypnotherapy Conference with the European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists podcast. Mo a mouthful indeed. There's 2

John Scanlon [00:00:17]:
big mouthfuls and all that.

Aidan Noone [00:00:20]:
Tell tell us, John, you have the 2025 Irish Hypnotherapy Conference coming off now. But before we get into the nitty gritty and the details and all the juicy bits about all those wonderful presenters that you're going to have, talk about all the the preparation that you've had to do for a start.

John Scanlon [00:00:38]:
Yeah. It's been a fairly intense year, actually. I mean, I think starting this in 23, which was actually only 19 months ago, believe it or not, And and it seems it seems a blur, yet seems forever all at the same time if I actually look back at it. I mean, it started with 8 speakers and 50 people. Then last year, in April of this year, there was a 100. There was a huge interest from abroad Right. In terms of speakers and and and people coming largely from the UK, but, a few from Europe. This year, I went to hypnotherts in Vegas, and it brought a huge amount of interest from America as a consequence.

Aidan Noone [00:01:21]:
Really?

John Scanlon [00:01:24]:
And, I mean, obviously, Americans love Ireland, but there's, you know and and a lot of them claim Irish ancestry and all that.

Aidan Noone [00:01:30]:
Of course.

John Scanlon [00:01:31]:
And there's 9 Americans, I think, and one Canadian or one group of Canadians.

Aidan Noone [00:01:37]:
Yes.

John Scanlon [00:01:38]:
So it yeah. So it's been fairly the preparation to all of this, obviously, like, the the September was the closing date for speakers. There was over 75 applications. Mhmm. And, initially, I was only gonna do have 20 speakers. And then in the end, with the number of applications, we kinda went with 30. So it's 3 rooms, which means people have a choice at every point in time. Right.

John Scanlon [00:02:04]:
So there was a bit of sorting out of that. Then there's interviewing all of those speakers. Then there's getting all the messages out about the conference. And, so it's a fairly intense period of time. Yeah. It's it's almost a full time job on its own, actually, half the time.

Aidan Noone [00:02:19]:
Absolutely. And I'm sure you've not that's not just yourself.

John Scanlon [00:02:23]:
There's a group of us, but the bulk bulk of it falls through me. Yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:02:28]:
Right. Right. Right. Now this is the 3rd year, of the Irish Hypnotherapy Conference. And, John, it seems to be, you know, to use a well known expression, it seems to be snowballing, getting bigger and bigger and bigger all the time. Like, last year, you had 2 rooms. And as you just said, this year, you have 3 rooms.

John Scanlon [00:02:52]:
It was I mean, look. I love hypnotherapy. I love what it does. I love how it helps people. I love the fact that it's the quickest, easiest, most effective way for people to change. And and I never you know, I won't ever back down on that. Yeah. And I suppose all what I'm really after with this conference is a number of different things.

Aidan Noone [00:03:17]:
Yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:03:18]:
One is to make hypnotherapy more go to, you know, to be more recognized. And the way the way that I can add my piece to that, if you like, is by getting momentum built around the conference, by creating community that comes from the conference, by empowering therapists. I'm not gonna go down the changing, you know, legislator's mind because I've worked with civil servants for a long time, and and I promise I'm not doing that anymore. You know, they're lovely people, but I just know the resistance to change. So, you know, there's too many people that that can be helped by word-of-mouth, by empowering therapists in various ways. So when and also what I've the other thing I've learned, Aidan, is that there's an international community of people who want to support each other. And I think the fact that we have so many people coming here and I think there's of the 30 speakers, I think there's 22 or so from abroad. You know, from Ireland, from Europe, from, from the US and Canada.

John Scanlon [00:04:30]:
Mhmm. And that's a fairly phenomenal impact because they're bringing with them a whole load of different skill sets. Yeah. And they're also bringing with them that sense that hypnotherapy is a global community. You know? And that there is global support that's around the global resources that are available that can allow us to just expand hypnotherapy in in the ways that so basically, what I I've I've said this many times, I believe in cooperation, not competition, you know, that we expand that the market for hypnotherapy expands so everybody wins

Aidan Noone [00:05:07]:
Yes.

John Scanlon [00:05:08]:
Including the client, may I say, which is very important point to make out because they're the ultimate winner.

Aidan Noone [00:05:13]:
Of course. Of course. It's it's it's so important, you know, and what you you mentioned there, there's a excuse me. You mentioned there is a there's a community, of of, support throughout the world because we're all basically on the same boat. And combined with that, of course, and I know you agree with this and I'm not putting words in you, but the whole area of ethical professional, therapy. Maybe would you comment on that?

John Scanlon [00:05:42]:
Ethical I mean, as hypnotherapist, we have to be mindful of what our ethics are. We have to be mindful that our clients are the ones that who want to want to change, and our job is to support them in the best way that we can. Mhmm. And to bring our sets of skills, our sets of tools that can allow them to change. And also to to respect both themselves and ourselves in the process and everyone else. So yes. I mean, every profession is done by ethics. Absolutely.

John Scanlon [00:06:17]:
You know, and and and hypnotherapy should be absolutely no different in that sport. You know?

Aidan Noone [00:06:22]:
100%. Now the tell us about the venue.

John Scanlon [00:06:26]:
The venue is the it's Clayton Hotel, but it's Liffey Valley this time rather than the airport. And for a number of different reasons, actually, one is that it the airport was very excluded. I mean, for people who weren't traveling by car or whatever. Yeah. It was just very difficult to get away from if if people wanted lunch or people wanted whatever. And as much as I hate to say it, Irish hotels are not always the best at facilitating lunch in short spaces. A time which as an organizer is not necessarily a good thing. Yeah.

John Scanlon [00:07:01]:
Whereas Liffey Valley is actually far more equipped to do this. It's also actually if people want a break or, you know, particularly given the amount of tourists or foreigners who will be here, non non resident Irish people who will be here. You know, there's easier access to the city center. There's easier access to restaurants in in the Fee Valley Shopping Center, you know. And yet, it's just on the m fifty as well and just off the the road west. So it's it's easy for people to get to. It's easy whether you're coming by bus, by train. It's also on the airport shuttle, so there is a link hotel.

John Scanlon [00:07:35]:
Or there's a link bus from the airport to the hotel. And because I ran train in there a few weeks ago, I know all of that. I mean, the hotel also this time has its own floor for So the conference will be on one floor rather than as part of the main. Whereas if you remember last year, you had the one room was and then you had to run down corridors to get to the other room. That's they'll all be right next to each other this time.

Aidan Noone [00:08:00]:
Right.

John Scanlon [00:08:00]:
So it's it's more equipped.

Aidan Noone [00:08:03]:
Apart from the fact that, every time I go to that hotel, I get confused with the roads. I end up in the m fifty.

John Scanlon [00:08:10]:
It's a really confusing one to get to, to be honest.

Aidan Noone [00:08:13]:
That's the one now in Dublin Airport, not the one that that's in Yeah.

John Scanlon [00:08:16]:
No. No. I know it. I I know what you mean because I you know, the first couple of times, it was like, where am I going, actually? Yeah. So I much preferred when I went looking and there was a few choices, but this one worked best for what it was to You know? I mean, it'll be the 3rd different hotel in 3 years, but the first one was Artlow, which was a it was always going to be somewhere in the Dublin region, you know? It had to be just for ease.

Aidan Noone [00:08:42]:
Yeah. Is that near a place called the Strawberry Beds or is that a way out? Is that far?

John Scanlon [00:08:45]:
The Strawberry Beds, it's not a 1000000 miles away, but it yeah. As the crow flies, it's not a 1000000 miles away. As the roads go, it might be a bit more complicated. But

Aidan Noone [00:08:55]:
Okay. Okay.

John Scanlon [00:08:55]:
It wouldn't be yeah. It's just the the kind of back of the the Strawberry Beds are kind of the back of the Phoenix Park as you head out towards back at Chapel Lizzert, that direction. Right.

Aidan Noone [00:09:06]:
Now presenters, tell us, what you know, you mentioned briefly there about your the your modus operandi, if you want to call it that. What what did you what were you trying what are you trying to achieve, now in this conference in terms of the the, you know, broad spectrum of the of speakers that you have lined up? Tell us about that, please.

John Scanlon [00:09:29]:
The idea behind it okay. So I tend to look at hypnosis or hypnotherapy in in as a model. So if you take the model of hypnotherapy Yeah. I tend to look at it in in a 4 cycle, or stage cycle, which is that, one, there's the attraction of clients. There's the mechanisms and and tools that we need to attract clients.

Aidan Noone [00:09:56]:
Absolutely. Yeah.

John Scanlon [00:09:58]:
And before I actually go into that in more depth or into hypnotherapy, a lot of times because they just want to help people. That's what they wanna do. But we are self employed. It is a business. And a lot of therapists kind of aren't properly skilled, tooled, and equipped to deal with that side of it. I've had a business background all my life. So that's where I tend to come from when I take this this view, which is that firstly, there's a marketing stage with whether that's, you know, the Facebooks, the social media type marketing, or just, you know, being out and about, you know, posters, flyers, events, all that kind of what whatever that form of marketing is. But once that call comes in, there's very little support then in terms of how to convert a call into client.

John Scanlon [00:10:56]:
And often, the client gets dropped. So that will actually be covered at this conference as well. The 3rd stage and its biggest stage is the actual therapies itself because it covers actually such a breadth, right, and such a skill set. And then the 4th stage is if you like, what happens once the client is finished? You know, there's retention of business. There's whether it's a referral, whether it's you know, I would offer an emotional detox because life will always give us stuff to be stressed about and come back every 6 months, which many people do. You know, but whatever way that because obviously, as a hypnotherapist, one of the biggest things that we have to do is consistently rotate clients. So I was trying to find the easiest way in which to do that. Now that does not mean the whole conference is focused on business, by the way, but that, if you like, describes the outline in which the way my mind has thought about this.

John Scanlon [00:11:57]:
And so, therefore, I mean, there will be stuff on the marketing side of it, with Steven Miguel at at at the front. Andrew is gonna do that. He's a sales Andrew has been in sales all his life, and he's going to work on that piece in between as in, you know, when a client rings, how do you convert? You know, the tools to give you the best opportunity to convert those into a client and not lose them. And, if you like, what happens once the client has left. So, like, the the business side of it is being looked at in in within those contexts. And there's a number of different speakers that will cover that. Grant Morrell is another one. And Cristadora, I can't even I'm not even gonna try and pronounce her surname.

John Scanlon [00:12:40]:
I know she'll kill me. But, anyway, from Spain, she's also going to deal with some of that. Then you're really into the therapy side of it, and we're dealing with everything from, say, Gianluca Russo or Giancarlo Russo who works with infants and uses. So he's gonna deal with nonverbal because that's what he's had to to find himself with to communicate with children. Basically, nonverbal hypnosis. Mhmm. Everything to regression with Hans Rudi Wiff who owns the, Hypnos Institute in in Switzerland. There is so many different speakers now as I'm looking at it.

John Scanlon [00:13:22]:
We we've everything from, say, Adam Cox, who is the hypnotist. The podcast, the hypnotist. Adam is gonna talk about the 4th dimension and how we can use the possibility of the 4th dimension. Well, and when I spoke to him, it's not like it is a bit like future pacing, but it's future pacing from every different angle. So it's about about ways in which to help clients looking at stuff in a different way. Anne Hirsch is also going to do the same thing where it's it's kind of future orientated stuff and how that can help the present. Astrid Harms is doing things on tinnitus, because she's done a huge amount of research on tinnitus. You know, Claudia Rickard working with children, and she has a process called the bunny bunny talk process, which she uses.

John Scanlon [00:14:13]:
And then there's a whole load of medic there's also the medical side of it because Dan Goed is gonna look at neuroscience and and how hypnosis is affected by neuroscience in the brain. Frederick Mow is looking at, something that really close to me, actually, which is the I'm looking for him. This is his. I can't remember it right now. But it's where is it? It it's it's a brain and body connection where it's not working with the cent central nervous system is overloaded, and there's no medical reason for this because it's all trauma. And I will think of it in a few moments. I just literally can't remember right now. Nicola Crain is gonna deal with building unshakable confidence in therapists.

John Scanlon [00:15:02]:
You know, Ronnie Fraser is working with how how to recover from narcissistic, abuse. She's developed her own program. She's developed because she suffered from that herself.

Aidan Noone [00:15:15]:
Mhmm.

John Scanlon [00:15:17]:
Said Deborah Roth on on medical hypnosis because she's a nurse in California, and she does presurgical hypnosis all the time. Right. Ellie Stockwell, who's the head of the, National Hypnosis Federation based out of California. I think her talk is what's love got to do with it, which is a really nice talk. But it's about a way of engaging with the client, and it's about a way of being ourselves. And Turan Mirza, and I know there's tends to be different views on this, but I tend to be a very big fan of street and stage. Not necessarily because I necessarily wanna do it myself, but I I have. But more so that it builds confidence in the in the therapist, You know? Because there's 5 different things that you'll meet as a as a stage or as a street.

John Scanlon [00:16:05]:
And you you really have to develop 5 skills of, obviously, the ability to hypnotize anywhere, anytime, the ability to read a room and who is hypnotizable and who's not. You have to be creative because you never know what your client you know? I'm I I think you've probably heard me say I never use scripts ever. And so I like that creative creative approach. You have to be confident. You have to be supremely confident to handle it. I don't know if you remember, but last year when at the dinner when Dylan Lovegrove's microphone went about 6 or 7 times and how he managed to actually keep himself afloat as he did that stage show was was was really good, you know. So I so Turan Mirza will do that. Now Turan, I mean, is a therapist in his own right.

John Scanlon [00:16:52]:
He works very closely with Cheetah Granger. Yeah. And they train a lot of hypnotherapists. Yeah. And both Turan originally would have started in street, you know. And then then there's Irish speakers then as well. So, I mean, there's well, there's, say Rosie Rosie Callan, the US clinic in based out of out of, West Caligna somewhere. You know, she's she's doing regression, and and her love of regression and and how it works.

John Scanlon [00:17:30]:
Carmen Colleran, who is doing a lot of work with addictions, but he has his own technique and he's doing a lot of work with cocaine addictions in particular. Right. You know, Astrid Harms, who's brand new speaker, And then there is also Carol Anthony, who is going to do the Estelle state. I'm gonna demonstrate the Estelle state on, at COVID. And then I'm also going to speak on adoption, on the topic of adoption. Yeah. And then the other one that I neglected to mention, is that Scott Sandlin, the head of Hypnot Thoughts will also be there.

Aidan Noone [00:18:07]:
Of course.

John Scanlon [00:18:07]:
Yeah. Scott's going to speak as well. And again, it's the client therapist connection and and how to enhance that.

Aidan Noone [00:18:19]:
Well, John, I'm such comprehensive nature. There's there's there's structure, you know, it just it's not it's just not how all just clammed together. Everything is

John Scanlon [00:18:29]:
Absolutely not. I mean, I I I'm not it's like Sue Peacock is there who's going to deal with, Sue is a specialist that she's, she deals for a lot of pain, and she's going to deal with pain. Last year, she dealt with depression. This year, it's pain. And Steven Travers, obviously, as well is going to connect a havening and and hypnosis as well.

Aidan Noone [00:18:49]:
Right. As I said, there's great structure. There's great purpose behind the the whole conference and the way it's organized. So, you know, ideally, you know, anyone out there looking or listening to this this podcast, they're they're not a hypnotherapist. What will they get from attending the conference?

John Scanlon [00:19:09]:
They get an understanding of what hypnotherapy is and how effective it can be to help people. But there are many different things. So say for instance, there is a group from from Canada called Hypnosis Healers. There's 30 people, so if I forgot anybody, I really do apologize. But they're dealing with, say, how how to remove money blocks. So there's many different things that people can can access at this conference. They'll get an understanding of it, of of what hypnotherapy is. Sometimes I think in you know, when we're as hypnotherapists and we see major transitions in people, You know, we see big change, and we see change that most people actually sometimes can't even wrap their head around because the change is so phenomenal.

John Scanlon [00:19:59]:
But we take that for granted because we move from one plane to another to another to another. And I think sometimes when when people are exposed to hypnotherapy and can see that it's not they're not just seeing it in in one person, they're seeing it in multitude. In this environment, if somebody comes who's not hypnot who's who doesn't have an understanding of hypnosis yet, they will do. Mhmm. And then understand its power. Yeah. Like, for instance, there will also be workshops for the first time ever. And they'll only be announced in the next week or 2, because they're just still being finalized.

John Scanlon [00:20:36]:
But, basically, Seth Deborah Roth is going to do a medical 101, on the Friday before the conference. So Seth is the nurse. She's based in California. She uses presurgical hypnosis. And she is going to do how working with medical hypnosis can improve your practice. Right. Right. Right.

John Scanlon [00:20:56]:
That's also gonna be aimed at nurses and doctors or anyone who wants to understand a little bit about that. And Rania Frazier is going to do working with, trauma. Now she comes from that narcissistic recovery background, but, obviously, trauma affects all of that. So she has a whole set of tools, and she'll have a number of talks even before the conference with groups that are that are affected by that. Claudia Rickerne is going to do the the bunny talk process. She's gonna teach people how to operate that process. So and and the hypnosis healers are going to do 1 on money blocks on a 2 day. They work with a lot of therapists.

John Scanlon [00:21:37]:
They're Canadian. They work with a lot of spa owners, gym owners in in Canada, and they're gonna bring that same model to Ireland. So they're promoting that in in that same way here. Mhmm. And then there's 1 or 2 others that are actually being discussed but not being finalized yet. But, whole idea is that there is something for everybody. So whether you're new to hypnosis, whether you're in it a long time, or whether you just wanna learn about it, there is something there for absolutely everybody. Yeah.

John Scanlon [00:22:09]:
And what and for me, it's the connections that come. It's that sense of community that comes from it. That for me is the biggest because as therapists, we work on our own. You know? And we do. And it's a place where we can meet. It can be once a year. It can be you know, obviously, you'll you'll know through the conference that we meet kind of bimonthly or there or thereabouts. So we do a lot of stuff on Zoom.

John Scanlon [00:22:37]:
We do it fairly continuously. And people connect with each other in many different ways, and people have formed their own friendships, their own collaborations because that's what it's about. That helps the profession. Yeah. Then ultimately helps the public and anyone who's has stuff that hypnotherapy can help with. That's ultimately where I've always wanted to go. I have this really large wish that it becomes the largest hypnotherapy conference in Europe because I want I firmly already believe given the number of people who are traveling, you know, because I mean, I I never mentioned Rob Degroof, you know, in the middle of all. I didn't mention Shawn Michael Andrews.

John Scanlon [00:23:22]:
I didn't but they're back as well. That we have people coming from all over the world, in the 3rd year of operation. You know, there'll be over 200 people there, and it's just gonna an ongoing experience. But it is about putting Ireland on the hypnotherapy map worldwide. That's ultimately what it is, because that will only help the ultimate objectives, which is connection, community, and helping more commonly available therapy.

Aidan Noone [00:23:53]:
Right. You know, you're you're definitely on the way, John, to creating the biggest hypnotherapy conference in Europe. You know, the this I'm

John Scanlon [00:24:03]:
just still a bit to go, but we're getting there.

Aidan Noone [00:24:06]:
Yes. Yes. Now give us the dates of the Irish Hypnotherapy Conference 2025.

John Scanlon [00:24:14]:
It's the 5th 6th April 2025. It's the Clayton Hotel, Liffey Valley. There will be workshops on the Friday and the Monday and Tuesday, I think, but they're yet to be finalized. But the 5th and 6th is absolutely finalized, written in stone, and all the details.

Aidan Noone [00:24:31]:
That's the Saturday and Sunday, is it?

John Scanlon [00:24:32]:
Saturday and Sunday. Yeah. I mean, I did look, and and I will be on the I did look at doing 2 rooms across 3 days Okay. Rather than 3 rooms across 2. Yeah. But given that people are self employed, given a number of different factors, it was a kind of a choice of, no. Let's just let's just do it across 2 because sometimes it's hard for people to take that 3rd day.

Aidan Noone [00:24:55]:
Okay.

John Scanlon [00:24:57]:
All all the details are on www.irishhypatherapyconference.a.

Aidan Noone [00:25:03]:
Okay. Just something that occurs to me, John, if you don't mind. Any if anybody's starting out, you know, in hypnotherapy, and they're listening or watching this podcast, what what would you say to them about attending the conference? What will they learn?

John Scanlon [00:25:21]:
It would say they will learn in 2 different ways, and they will learn. There's absolutely no shadow of a doubt. You learn in 3 different ways. They learn the hypnotherapies for them, and I can't see anyone who it's not, to be honest. But that's the first thing. The second thing is they will they will learn from both people and from speakers about where they can go, what they can do. Because there was a number of people at last year's conference Mhmm. Who have subsequently gone on and and found the resource that they needed.

John Scanlon [00:25:54]:
And even if they didn't find the exact person who to study with or whatever, they found the connections and the groups which allowed them to Yeah. To then explore further after the conference is over. And so the whole so anyone who is coming to the conference, it is a you you you will learn you learn whether hip hypnotherapy is for you. And I can't see how it couldn't be because it it's only just an additional skill set. And it's like any training that we do. You know, even the train the kinetic shift training I did recently, like, some of the people will say, but this is a therapy session in its own, you know, because of the the the of the stuff that gets worked on while while we're training ourselves. Same applies to people if they're if they if they have stuff that they want to deal with. There's demonstrations go over, they can happily volunteer, or they'll also be group demonstrations, and I know that from some of the speakers too.

Aidan Noone [00:26:51]:
Yeah. And they're a very friendly bunch of people, you know. They're they're experts in their own field, but they're very, giving in terms of, you know, being helpful. I found that last year.

John Scanlon [00:27:05]:
They are. And no matter who they are, how big their name is, it's always they're always there, and they're always willing to answer questions. And they're always willing to to give guidance or help or or help anybody. I mean, you know, one of the things you often see in hypnotherapy conferences in Dublin was no different is that you see people working on each other in corridors. I mean, if I do it myself all the time, you know, it just happens. Do you know for something that's small or something that can be dealt with in that moment? But it does. So there's guidance, there's support, there's whatever people need.

Aidan Noone [00:27:39]:
There's there's there's something for everybody, I would say.

John Scanlon [00:27:42]:
There is. And and there may be 1 or 2 more announcements that I don't wanna go into yet, but in the next day or 2, I may be making more announcements as we go.

Aidan Noone [00:27:51]:
So That should the actual program for it, I know you've announced the speakers, but the the the program, is that published yet or

John Scanlon [00:27:59]:
or Not yet. No. I still have to sort out what the who goes where and all that kind of stuff, so on the time frames and all of that. That will be in January by the time that's done, but that will be there.

Aidan Noone [00:28:09]:
It's early days because I think it's important that, you know, if you're going to a conference, a comprehensive conference like this, that you're able to, you know, pencil who you're going to go to because Well, that

John Scanlon [00:28:20]:
that's oh, no. Absolutely. That's really true. No. I think the first thing that's that's happened and the first thing that I could say to people is so it has all of the speakers and the topic that they'll be talking on. Mhmm. The YouTube channel has I think there's 20 of the 30 interviews up so far, should be completed in the next week or 2. It's time zones actually have is half the problem with California is a there's time difference.

John Scanlon [00:28:49]:
So trying to organize something there's it comes but most of that is done. And all of that information will be there so people have a choice. They're 10, 15 minute interviews. They're not the 30, 40 minutes. They're just 10, 15. A little bit about who each speaker is and what it is they're talking about. You know, and then whatever questions I can usefully throw in in between. Yeah.

John Scanlon [00:29:12]:
So that's kind of but in January, I do expect that the the the schedule will be announced at that point in time. I mean, look, everything is subject to change, obviously. You know, nothing's written in stone. People drop in. People drop out. But, in general, that will be January before before that's done.

Aidan Noone [00:29:31]:
Great. Well, that was very comprehensive, John. Finally finally, what's your what's your final message, to the hypnotherapy world out there?

John Scanlon [00:29:41]:
Two messages, if I may. Number 1 is and and as far as just the reality of business, we do talk about business. So the it's it's the the price will go up from early January. So if people are doing it, please do so before 31 December or the 3rd or 4th January, whatever that frame is. Okay. Because the price will go up. But if anyone has an interest in chemotherapy, you will learn, you will connect, you will and whether you're a therapist on your own let me put it this way. When I started this, people did not know who I was from Adam.

John Scanlon [00:30:23]:
Yet 50 people turned up that 1st year, and a community was built around it. Yes. The community that supports each other. Haven't been to the conference before. I just welcome them as part of the community. Pretty much that simple. Because whether you're part of another community or not, you're never gonna lose. You will just add value.

John Scanlon [00:30:45]:
This is not like I said, this is not competition. This is cooperation. That's what hit that that's what this conference is about. So I would just welcome anybody who has an interest in hypnotherapy. You will learn. You will connect. And you just become part of a larger international network network because that's ultimately what's happening here, is it becomes part of a larger international network that allows people to ultimately improve their own business, improve their own therapies, improve their own skill sets, and improve the quality of their own lives because that's what we're all here to do, isn't it?

Aidan Noone [00:31:22]:
Indeed. And I I would say, personally, I would highly recommend it. Give us the website, John.

John Scanlon [00:31:29]:
Www.irishhypnotherapyconference.ai. All of the speakers are on that page or are on the there's links to all the pages. All the speakers are there and all of the details on the conference. There'll be more and more stuff put up as we go, tourism information. Because there's loads of people coming from abroad as well. So it's an opportunity to connect with Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Brits as well as Irish. Right.

Aidan Noone [00:31:56]:
Right. Well, John Scanlon, thank you so much for that. And, again, I would highly recommend the conference. And, you know, you have the website. So get people there out there listening and watching. Get on the website, book your place, and, you'll definitely benefit enormously. John Scanlon, thank you so much for being with me.

John Scanlon [00:32:17]:
Thank you, Ray. My pleasure. My pleasure.