Session 0044 - Dr. Antonio Allegretta on Fibromyalgia

Our guest is Dr. Antonio Allegretta, a renowned expert in cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), mindfulness and hypnotherapy, based in picturesque Pistoria, Italy. Dr. Allegretta is not only the president of the Institute for Studies on Hypnosis but also a member of the European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists.

Dr. Allegretta will share with us his extensive experience in using CBT exercises to help clients manage their emotions effectively and empower them with tools and resources to maintain their mental health independently. We’ll delve into the crucial role that diet plays in mental well-being and learn about helpful supplements for stress, anxiety, and depression management.

Moreover, Dr. Allegretta will discuss the powerful, yet under-recognized, treatment of hypnotherapy for fibromyalgia, a condition often triggered by psychological stress. He’ll emphasize the importance of balanced life approaches, mindfulness, and the necessity of proper education in managing fibromyalgia.

You'll hear intriguing case studies and insights into how hypnosis, CBT coaching, and self-help techniques like self-hypnosis and symptom tracking can significantly improve quality of life. Dr. Allegretta will also tackle the skepticism surrounding hypnotherapy, arguing convincingly for its scientific basis and real-world effectiveness.

Tune in, as we explore the intersection of psychology, hypnosis, and holistic health with Dr. Antonio Allegretta.

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Transcript

Aidan Noone [00:00:04]:
Doctor Antonio Allegretta, welcome to the Professional Hypnotherapist Podcast.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:00:09]:
Thank you, Aidan

Aidan Noone [00:00:11]:
And it's really wonderful to have you here today and thank you so much for your time all the way from Italy. So tell us where you are you in Italy?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:00:21]:
I I live and work in Pistoia, about 30 kilometers far from Florence in Tuscany and, yes, I'm the president of the, Institute for Studies on Hypnosis, institute of studies, 2 d, solipinology, mindfulness, and complementary therapies.

Aidan Noone [00:00:49]:
So you're teaching that there?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:00:51]:
Yes. Sometimes I teach too.

Aidan Noone [00:00:54]:
 Alright. Okay. 

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:00:56]:
especially is a place, it's some something that is devoted more about research and therapy than teaching.

Aidan Noone [00:01:06]:
Oh, okay. Research. Excellent. And you recently become a member of the European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists. What was the motivation there, Antonio, since you went I know it's the European Association and, you know, what was the motivation in seeking membership there?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:01:26]:
Well, actually, you know, I started in UK, before Brexit. And, so after Brexit, UK was, went out of European Union. So I needed a professional association in a country that was member of the the European Union. This is, the the the legal aspect. On on the other hand, I like the name, European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists. So I was, interested in staying in a very large network of hypnotherapist all over Europe. And, about that, I checked the the website, and I saw that you're really half professional. You do things very well and and hardly and strongly.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:02:27]:
So I said, well, this is my this is my place. I and I liked also the the fact that you have a general meeting every year where there are so many speakers, so many people that come all over Europe and bring many their experience, and they share their experience. So that's that's really important.

Aidan Noone [00:02:56]:
Well, we're we're absolutely delighted to have you as a member, and thank you for being with us. Now in terms of your own background, just give us a general, outline of your own background, if you don't mind. No.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:03:12]:
No. No. That's okay. Well, you know, as I think many of people that, become hypnotherapist or psychotherapist, I come from personal story of sufferance of, you know, my background is a scientific background. I started physics at university. K. But at a certain point, I left everything, and I moved in another way, studying psychology, at University of Trieste and, trying to find something that, could help me with my personal problems, I started to read something about self hypnosis. And I was so impressed about that.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:04:17]:
And, at that moment, I was studying, I remember it was at the 1st year of psychology at university, and, so we studied dynamic psychology, Freud and conscience, and when I did some exercise about self hypnosis, I said, wow, That's the unconscious it exists. It really exists. That's fantastic. And so from that point, I I I started to to to study the, hypnosis because, I I saw that it was very, effective. It was very quick. It was, it it could have been a a very good tool for me to make very, very good, results, very help people that needed to have great change, in their mind, in their life, and in their body too. This is the other important thing that, maybe sometimes we miss. In the in the in the field of the medicine, I remember it was about 10 years ago that the BBC reported the, the suggestion of the Royal Society of Medicine.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:05:47]:
They said that the first intervention, should be hypnosis. And then from there, see what else, not starting with drugs, but first with hypnosis. So think about migraine, think about anxious, anxiety, and so many other things, so many other problems.

Aidan Noone [00:06:10]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:06:11]:
And, actually yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:06:13]:
Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:06:15]:
No. No. Actually, you know, we we miss a lot of opportunities, with, hypnosis, thinking that hypnosis is just a psychological thing or maybe regression of past life, and so on. Hypnosis is a very useful tool for a lot of problems, in the medical field, asthma, fibromyalgia, migraines. Even, you know, rehab. You have a trauma. Your arm broken. Well, rehab with the hypnosis is very useful.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:07:01]:
You've got, a, Hector's and, maybe your arm is not, working, better anymore. Well, you can improve the rehab through hypnosis. Yeah. There are a lot of reserves on that. And, unfortunately, hypnosis is still something that is kept in a corner, like something mysterious or something that, yeah, okay. But

Aidan Noone [00:07:33]:
Do you think, Antonio, that also the orthodox medicine will ever really accept hypnotherapy per se?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:07:45]:
Sorry. Say again. Do you

Aidan Noone [00:07:47]:
think that orthodox, like the medical profession, will they will they ever accept, you know, hypnosis per se with lay hypnotherapists?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:07:59]:
I I think that, as a medical doctor, your first aim is to help people no matter what is the the tool that you use. And, in the very moment, you know that, hypnotherapy is something that is scientific based. It's not something strange or whatever. But that it gives actually real results. It's a shame, the fact that you don't use that. And, you know, there is the business of drugs. There is the business of many other things, but, you know, there are some, problems, some, symptoms, some pathologies that, have no cure, with drugs, but can be, actually, fixed through hypnosis.

Aidan Noone [00:09:08]:
Excellent. The the the psychosomatic, aspect of of illness.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:09:13]:
Yes. For example, fibromyalgia Yeah. And the cranes and so on. I'm sorry for my English.

Aidan Noone [00:09:21]:
No. That's fine.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:09:22]:
I'm I'm Sometimes I'm a bit uncertain of the right word to use. But

Aidan Noone [00:09:29]:
Please forgive my my

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:09:32]:
It's a long time that I'm not traveling in UK, so or in Ireland, so my English is not so fluent. Well, you do know that

Aidan Noone [00:09:41]:
the best English is spoken in Ireland, but anyway No, Antonio. Thank you. Thank you for that. You have done you mentioned earlier about the institute that you have there in Pisto Pistoria. Isn't it Pistoria?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:09:58]:
Yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:09:58]:
And, and as part of that institute, you mentioned you do research.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:10:04]:
Right.

Aidan Noone [00:10:05]:
And you have published a paper

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:10:07]:
Yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:10:08]:
On hypnotherapy, with specific with regards to fibromyalgia. Tell us about that, please. And what was your motivation there?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:10:18]:
Well, I met a rheumatologist, and, I said, you know and and she spoke, she told me about, fibromyalgia,

Aidan Noone [00:10:33]:
and

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:10:33]:
I said, look. Hypnosis, it's very useful to fix so many things. So I will check if there is anything about hypnosis and fibromyalgia. So I made a little research on BAVMED and I saw that there were plenty of studies, plenty of research about hypnosis and fibromyalgia, and that hypnosis actually worked for fibromyalgia. It's we have about 40 years research that they say that hypnosis is really effective in the treatment of fibromyalgia. So I started to work with her, and, that was the first case that I treat. And it was very interesting because that guy, was suffering from fibromyalgia from a long time. Nothing worked with him.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:11:34]:
And, if you read reading the paper, you will see that a certain point, all the symptoms disappeared after past therapy. He had, spontaneous regression with that reaction. He fought in tears and then everything stopped. He had no more problems. He had no more pain. He spent years going around physicians, was treated like, you know, this is just imaginary hills. You have nothing. Don't bother me.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:12:16]:
Well, okay. You go to the upstairs, but you do you do that. And so he was actually desperate. He didn't know what to do.

Aidan Noone [00:12:26]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:12:27]:
And after that, everything stopped. He had no more problems. Look. I saw I was so that I was, that was the the first years a few years after I got my diploma in hypnotherapy in UK, and I was a member of, the old National Council of Psychotherapists. And so I decided to write that article to, give evidence to this. Yeah. But, unfortunately, I must say that I have found a lot of resistance, on this, on this problem because, I must say that, they have built castles on Fibromyalgia.

Aidan Noone [00:13:23]:
Right.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:13:25]:
And so they are afraid at the idea that just hypnosis would be enough to sort out the problem because, otherwise, all the business that they have created about fibromyalgia, drugs, psychotherapy, osteopaths, nutrition, and or whatever. In Italy, we say, I don't know how things are in Ireland, but in Italy, we say that it's the new, golden chicken eggs, It's a chicken that makes golden eggs.

Aidan Noone [00:14:10]:
Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:14:11]:
So there is a lot of money, but the point is we don't look for money. We look for people having back their life.

Aidan Noone [00:14:22]:
Yes. Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:14:24]:
So this is this is my battle. This is my fighting.

Aidan Noone [00:14:29]:
Yeah. In the particular, the subject of your research, he was a young gentleman. Tell us about the the nothing personal about him, of course, but just his, his background, if that would if that's of any significance in your opinion and his age.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:14:47]:
Oh, he was 28 years old, but first of all, you know, fibromyalgia is something, is a symptom that affects, in the majority of case, women. So 19% are women that are affected from fibromyalgia. So a young man, 20 years old, affected from fibromyalgia was something absolutely new or not so something rare.

Aidan Noone [00:15:18]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:15:18]:
Not so common.

Aidan Noone [00:15:20]:
Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:15:20]:
And, well, there was anything that at the beginning, there was, it seems like a fibromyalgia like other. He he started to respond very well to suggesting hypnotherapy.

Aidan Noone [00:15:43]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:15:44]:
Because just suggesting hypnotherapy, helps the body to take back the equilibrium of the, in the producing performance.

Aidan Noone [00:16:02]:
Yes. Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:16:03]:
There are some research that, show very well that hypnosis helps to, take back the equilibrium in the epotallum, hypophyseary axis. Yes. HBA. Right? So, and we also have some other research that, using hypnosis every day on a daily basis, that recording hypnosis, self hypnosis, through an m p 3 file, right, helps to clean the mind, the, prefrontal cortex from core the excess of cortisol. Okay. So hypnosis works not only on the psychological sides, but also on the body side. And, the the really interesting thing was that everything disappeared. All the symptoms, went away, disappeared after that of reactions.

Aidan Noone [00:17:27]:
So when initially, when when the gentleman came to you, consulted with you, you obviously you know, you took the history and you then charted for him a program of hypnotherapy, which initially you you you you did you just started up using suggestion hypnosis.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:17:51]:
Yeah.

Aidan Noone [00:17:52]:
And, a component of that, of course, is, relaxation. Would that be true?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:17:59]:
Yeah. Yeah. 1st, relaxation, ego strengthening, pain management, suggesting hypnotherapy for pain management Yeah. Suggesting hypnotherapy, for anxiety Yeah. And at anxiety, I'm suggesting hypnotherapy to sleep better to better sleep in the night. I also right? Sorry.

Aidan Noone [00:18:27]:
And then, of course, you you you you then went on to do parts therapy.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:18:32]:
Yes. Because, symptoms didn't go away completely. So I didn't know suggesting hypnotherapy was not enough.

Aidan Noone [00:18:43]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:18:43]:
And then I decide to use past therapy. And, in a very simple way, it and I was lucky because he had a spontaneous regression. So I I didn't I didn't have to work so much with. So, like, negotiation or so. Everything came up, spontaneously. He had that Yeah. Spontaneous Reaction. Reaction with that reaction that he remember the the real origin, the real cause of the problem, that was being left from her from his girlfriend.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:19:34]:
There was a a girl they they they lived in some in in the kind of because they they studied together at the elementary school. They stayed together at the elementary school in a very old town in the mountain around Pistoia. So they lived together. And at certain point, she left him, and he felt the ground crashing under their feet, under his feet. And, and from that point, fibromyalgia started. So when you remember that and this kind of trauma arise at consciousness at the conscious level, he had a reaction, and everything went away. And she she get completely recovered. Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:20:37]:
He got completely recovered.

Aidan Noone [00:20:39]:
Yeah. The the the his symptoms seem to have have arisen as a result of his breakup from the girlfriend. Isn't that correct? Right. Now you said they had an AB reaction. Was there was there, in your opinion, could you identify an initial sensitizing event, the very first event back in childhood, or was it all got to do with the breakup?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:21:07]:
Oh, and the initial sensitive event was the fact that, his, his girlfriend left him.

Aidan Noone [00:21:15]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:21:16]:
That's it. It was a trauma.

Aidan Noone [00:21:18]:
A trauma. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now, that was act excellent work. Do you recommend, in your opinion, the parts therapy for other cases of fibromyalgia?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:21:35]:
It depends. I think that in the majority of cases and, also, as scientific research show, suggesting hypnotherapy, a training, with suggesting hypnotherapy and some CVT coaching is enough.

Aidan Noone [00:21:56]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:21:57]:
If there are still problem, then we need to fix and to see what is going on. And then pass therapy or regression in hypnotherapy, every kind of analytical hypnotherapy is useful to to show to fix that because, the fibromyalgia starts from stress.

Aidan Noone [00:22:32]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:22:33]:
No matter what is the reason. Fibromyalgia starts from stress. It can be your psychological asset. Let me go maybe you're very anxious. Maybe you have in some part of your brain the idea that, you have to do everything quickly and, right and perfect every time. Maybe you had a trauma. Maybe your environment is very stressful. At a certain point, your brain is a stop.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:23:10]:
It's enough. I cannot do anymore. And then you start to feel pain all over the the the the body, fatigue. You don't sleep well. You're unable to do anything. And in the worst cases, even being touched, gently soft produce pain in your body. Okay. So and the first moment suggest an hypnotherapy with some CBT coaching to help the client to manage stress, to understand that, his life must change, that they need to have a more complete way of life, not only just the house and work work and house, but even social life, sexual life, sport, spiritual life, and so on.

Aidan Noone [00:24:19]:
Holistic. Yeah. View view people

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:24:20]:
And, also, manage their emotions, their feelings. So I also teach them problem solving, how to manage their emotions, you know, helicopter view, those kind of exercise from, how to manage situation, how could do that. So everything that creates stress. And I teach also to, pace their work. They don't know to pace their work. They just run and do without stopping.

Aidan Noone [00:25:00]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:25:03]:
Because because I work in Italy, and we know we are, in Italy, very devoted to cooking and and because the majority of people affected from fibromyalgia women. Yes. I say, look. You cannot cook everything with eye fire. Otherwise, you're going to burn everything.

Aidan Noone [00:25:27]:
Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:25:28]:
So there are some things that need to be cooked with a small fire, like. And when you have to cook a big stack, then you use the high fire. But if you use high fire for everything, then you're going to burn

Aidan Noone [00:25:45]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:25:47]:
Everything. Right? Yeah. The psychomyalgia patient are like, they are cooking everything with high fire.

Aidan Noone [00:25:57]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the there's there's a tool for everything, a specific tool for everything.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:26:04]:
Right.

Aidan Noone [00:26:05]:
And it's, you know, in your work, when you mentioned that you, teach, mindfulness and the benefits of mindfulness.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:26:12]:
Yes. Yes.

Aidan Noone [00:26:13]:
Could you comment on that for just briefly about mindfulness?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:26:18]:
Well, actually, mindfulness, you know, there are a lot of research that show that made the, the brain cortex thicker. Right? And this part of the brain is the part of the brain that helps to keep everything in control.

Aidan Noone [00:26:43]:
Emotion The functional cortex.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:26:45]:
Right. Pain. So mindfulness helps a lot with the stress management, with, managing the emotion, being self aware, not being, you know, completely in a in the chaos of our emotions and thoughts. And, also, mindfulness, produce physical effects in the brain, like making the, the cortex the brain cortex thicker.

Aidan Noone [00:27:32]:
Okay. Okay. Excellent. How significant in your opinion is is training for hypnotherapists in hypnoanalysis? What's your take on that?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:27:46]:
I think that it's actually a very good useful tool. At the beginning of my career, I didn't use, so much regression and hit analysis because I must say I was afraid of a reaction of re traumatizing re re traumat daze dazing. Sorry. And so, but, actually, I have seen that there are there are no dangers, and, there are no real dangers. Yes. We we are careful. We are, we have respect for our client, but, using those techniques actually helped me to sort out to fix a lot of problems very quickly and, without stress for myself. Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:28:42]:
Because it's being conscious that say you where is the problem and where it starts from. I don't have to think about anything. If you use just hypnotherapy suggestion or other tools like CBT and so on, you have to think about what could be best and teach them and so on and blah blah. So that's all those kind of, techniques like regression pass, a heat analysis. Actually, it's the conscious that says to you where is the problem and what is the problem. And when, you know, this memory comes at the conscious level, you have have reactions. Everything's sort out. Fine.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:29:34]:
Perfect. It's it's the the easiest and the the the straightest way to fix a problem.

Aidan Noone [00:29:46]:
Excellent. Thank you. Going back to your paper, reading that, I noticed that the on one occasion that the the client's right shoulder, continue to have pain. Is that is that where where you mentioned that the symptoms persisted and you overcame that by the abreaction? Yeah?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:30:07]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was I no. I don't have the paper in front of me, but I remember that at certain point, the symptoms, didn't go down after a certain level. So I so I decided to use that pass survey to fix, and it was successful. Mhmm.

Aidan Noone [00:30:36]:
Okay. Is there would you if you had the situation again, would you have done anything differently?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:30:44]:
No, actually. My my way of working with fibromyalgia has already been the same. I initially use hypnosis, suggesting hypnotherapy, and some CBT code, because apart everything, I think that it's very important that the client learns some techniques to help themselves. So like cell tympanosis and some CBT tools to manage their emotions. It's a it's that it's useful anyway. But if at the end of the treatment, there is still something that doesn't work, then I use, some analytical tool.

Aidan Noone [00:31:37]:
Okay. Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:31:38]:
But, I must say that generally speaking, everything is sought out by just suggesting hypnotherapy, deliver the client, MP 3 file audio, to listen every day. So have self hypnosis every day. It's very important.

Aidan Noone [00:32:00]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:32:05]:
Signing every day, making a little table, where the client sign every day the level of the symptoms.

Aidan Noone [00:32:19]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:32:19]:
And this is very useful because that keeps the the client aware of the process. And, also, we can see what happens if the symptoms the level of the symptoms arise. So maybe they come back after a week, and I say that Simpson arose. And then I said, what happened? Oh, I had argument with my husband, Oh, I felt so well that I decided to clean all my house. Oh, oh, well, I look. Now you better understand how Fibromyalgia works.

Aidan Noone [00:33:08]:
Yes. Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:33:09]:
And now you understand much more better how to the the importance of facing your physical efforts, the importance of, managing your emotion, the stress, and so on.

Aidan Noone [00:33:27]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:33:28]:
So it's a an education job.

Aidan Noone [00:33:31]:
Yeah. And touching on that, you mentioned earlier about, you know, almost teaching the client, life skills. And I think one particular, something that strikes me is the is the area of, you know, giving things perspective. Mhmm. And would you comment on that?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:33:52]:
Sorry. Just to say

Aidan Noone [00:33:53]:
Giving things perspective. Get putting the thing in other words, you when you you you in your research, your your client you put the client out, I think, out in

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:34:03]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some yeah. Some some some c d CBT exercise like Equinoxo view, see things from maybe, the high of a mountain and see things from another perspective being detached from, the situation that are, making you crazy that I'm making you angry or anxious or or maybe, you know, you can imagine yourself to stay so far in the universe and so far from the the world and seeing everything from that perspective. So now how you can see your problem? How do you see things? So changing perspective. Or maybe, another one at my position, how would have solved out that other people, from outside, How would have solved that problem? And then the end, the wise mind, the complete perspective, the more general picture.

Aidan Noone [00:35:26]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're bringing you're bringing you're bringing into your conscious awareness those aspects of reality that you're not currently conscious of.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:35:37]:
Yeah. But, also, it's, an empowering, work. You make the client you give the client tools to help himself.

Aidan Noone [00:35:49]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:35:50]:
So when they when they leave my room, when they when they stop the treatment, they have a lot of resources. They have a a little book with all the records, with all the papers, with all the the handouts. So they have a kind of emergency book.

Aidan Noone [00:36:12]:
Yeah. Yeah. You also, in reading your paper, there was a mention there of the client, changing their diet.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:36:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There are some useful, complementary food, that are useful to suggest, like magnesium. Magnesium is the first important because, we know that there is a, a direct, correlation between magnesium and, stress, anxiety, and depression. The more anxious, the more depressed, the more stressed you are, less magnesium you have in the cell body.

Aidan Noone [00:36:59]:
Okay.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:37:00]:
So, this is very important. Vitamin b, of course, it helps with the nervous system. Omega 3 is, a natural antidepressant. It's the best food for your brain. Now you and Ireland are very lucky with all the fish that you have, and you'll see. I still remember fish and chips.

Aidan Noone [00:37:36]:
Of course. Yes.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:37:37]:
Yes. So,

Aidan Noone [00:37:39]:
Fish and chips.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:37:40]:
This is this is this is, you know, this is the the most important this is the most important thing you you need.

Aidan Noone [00:37:49]:
Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:37:49]:
And, yes, even even, have, your gut working, properly working. I I suggest also to use Lactobacillus, things like that to have a gut that works properly because we know that there's a a direct connection between brain and gut.

Aidan Noone [00:38:21]:
Absolutely.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:38:21]:
Yeah. So if the gut works properly, we have a brain that is more,

Aidan Noone [00:38:29]:
less. Brain axis, I think they call it. So, Antonio, if there was one final something that you'd like to impart to our listeners and to our viewers, all the way from Italy. I know it's not a 1000000 miles away but give us give us something that you believe is that really important for somebody out there listening or watching who may be currently you know, experiencing elements of fibromyalgia. And, of course, there's another thing, you know, myalgic encephalomyelitis is sort of similar to that. Would you give us some some little, words of wisdom, if possible, please?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:39:12]:
Well, fibromyalgia is not a so big issue. You can recover from fibromyalgia. We know how. We there are 40 year reserved that hypnosis is, the best treatment, I could say Yeah. For Fibromyalgia.

Aidan Noone [00:39:42]:
Right.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:39:43]:
So the problem the problem is that, physician don't know about hypnosis and fibromyalgia, or maybe they don't want to know. So what could I say to someone that is affected from fibromyalgia? Don't be desperate. Don't lose your time, on Google and on, and with the, social groups. Just look for a hypnotherapist that work with fibromyalgia Yeah. And go through that and go ahead, and you will recover. Maybe you will need some help, some drugs, some but you can get you can have your life back. Not following the, the that way and losing your time on googling or staying in social, groups where everybody try and say, yeah. I have that and I have that.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:41:01]:
Oh, yeah. That's a shame and blah blah.

Aidan Noone [00:41:03]:
Exactly. Yeah.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:41:04]:
Don't waste your time. Don't waste your time. Just look for a hypnotherapist that work with fibromyalgia.

Aidan Noone [00:41:12]:
One one wonderful advice, Santander.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:41:14]:
It's it's it's not it's not a so big tragedy. The problem is that they have created a tragedy because there is a lot of business involved. Yeah. And they keep person going around from a professional to another profession and then another profession spending money instead of using, that tool that we exactly know that works. And that tool has a specific name. It's called hypnosis.

Aidan Noone [00:41:50]:
Excellent. Well, that's wonderful advice, Antonio, and thank you so much, for that. If, anyone watching or listening would like to contact you, and I'll put all your details, by the way, in the show notes and in the narrative at the bottom of of the podcast and in on on YouTube as well. How can we contact you?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:42:16]:
By phone Okay. Or or by mail? So

Aidan Noone [00:42:22]:
And you you have that web you have a website, don't you?

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:42:25]:
Yes. Yes. And,

Aidan Noone [00:42:27]:
I'll put that on it as well.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:42:29]:
Yes. Yes. Yes, sir. It's Itutto Ipanosi dotit.

Aidan Noone [00:42:34]:
Dot dotit. I have that. So I'll put that in the notes. Antonio Allegretta, thank you so much for doctor Antonio, thank you so much.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:42:45]:
You're welcome. I thank you, Ivan.

Aidan Noone [00:42:48]:
And, I look forward, I look forward to the next time that we we do this, and, I'd say bye bye for now.

Dr. Antonio Allegretta [00:42:57]:
Okay. Have a good day. Thank you so very much.