NBS #120 : How Food Is Driving Your Chronic Illness

Why are chronic illness, obesity, and metabolic issues rising faster than ever?
In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with health coach Nick Howarth to break down the root causes behind modern health struggles. With over 15 years of experience coaching thousands of clients, Nick explains why processed food, metabolic dysfunction, and lifestyle habits are driving many of today’s health issues.

They discuss:
- Why processed food is a major contributor to disease
- How metabolism impacts energy, weight, and hormones
- The connection between gut health and immune function
- Why symptoms are often misunderstood
- Simple steps to start improving your health today

If you’ve ever wondered why so many people feel tired, inflamed, or stuck in their health journey, this episode offers a clear and practical perspective.

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:29 Nick introduces himself and his background
1:32 Why we’ve “never been sicker”
1:56 The biggest root cause: processed food
3:01 Food vs air vs water discussion
6:07 Root cause vs symptom-based health
8:12 Gut health and immune system explained
10:49 Stress and modern lifestyle impact
12:17 Metabolism and how it drives health
12:25 Client story reversing diabetes and avoiding surgery
15:09 Why diet is overcomplicated today
17:32 Ancestral diet and simplicity
20:01 Nutrient depletion and need for supplementation
21:04 Biggest lies in the health industry
23:01 Controversies around keto
25:32 Metabolic health and mental health
28:12 First steps to improve metabolic health
29:07 How to work with Nick
33:04 Closing thoughts on health in the US

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🔵 About Nick:
Nick Howarth is an international metabolic and endocrine reset coach, author and researcher with 15 years of experience helping thousands of people improve their health through metabolic, nutrition-based strategies. As the founder of Best Body Health Coach (BBHC), Nick focuses on addressing root causes rather than symptoms, with particular success in helping clients reverse insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and chronic inflammatory conditions.

His work emphasizes real food, mineral balance, metabolic health, and lifestyle correction, cutting through nutrition myths and fads, and industry-driven misinformation. Nick’s practical, evidence-based approach has reached a global audience, guiding individuals across multiple countries toward sustainable health and long-term vitality.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

My name is Michael Rubino. I'm on a personal mission to make sure you don't get sick inside your own home.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

I knew there was something wrong. I'm just so relieved there's something that you can do about it.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Hello and welcome to another episode of Never Been Sicker. I'm your host, Indoor Air Quality Expert, Michael Rubino. And today's very special guest, we have Nick. Nick, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day to be here with us.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

You're welcome. It's um it's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Absolutely. So why don't you go ahead and share who you are and what you do so that the audience knows exactly why you're here.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Okay, so so my name's Nick Howarth. I I live in Durban, South Africa. I've been um I've been a health coach, or I have a health coaching business company for the last 15 years. Um we've coached over 5,000 people through to better health using um nutrition and supplements, um, handled all sorts of different ailments and diseases, started off helping sportsmen, um, and it eventually just kind of graduated into helping the uh just the average man on the streets that wanted to get healthy and lose weight. So um I I I studied through Dr. or Professor Tim Nokes, who's a um nutrition expert in South Africa, um probably one of the forefathers of the keto revolution about 20 years ago. Um and yeah, it's uh that's pretty much who I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

That's incredible. And so, as you know, this podcast is titled Never Been Sicker. Unfortunately, we are seeing rising chronic illness, rising obesity, uh autoimmune disease and deficiencies, etc. Uh what do you what do you see uh in your practice as some of the root cause issues for the reasons why we've never been sicker?

SPEAKER_01 2:08

I mean it's 100% the food. It's a hundred percent the processed food. Um the the big agriculture, big food. Um, you know, I I it's I I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily pin it being purposefully done. Um I think it's all profit-driven. Um, you know, the the more the more manufacturing that can be done, the more profit can be made. Um and that's it. There's there's not much more than that. There's obviously things like uh environmental factors that are a little bit different than it was, you know, 100, 200 years ago. But it's the food. The food is the something that you have to put into your body every single day, you know, and and if you if that's compromised, then yeah, we're gonna have we're gonna never have been sicker. It's funny if the name I I looked at the name of the podcast, it's interesting because I literally wrote an article called We've Never Been Sicker about two years ago. It was quite interesting, and it's absolutely true. We we've never been sicker.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

No, it is it is quite interesting, and of course it is true, and it's a sad reality, but here we are, and it's important to discuss these things, obviously, so we can get people inspired to improve their health. And so your your belief is obviously food, and then what what about air and water? I mean, you you said that you uh you obviously have to put food in your mouth, but you certainly have to put air in your in your lungs, and you certainly have to put water in your body as well. How important is that uh for your for your your patients?

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Yeah, I mean water water would probably fall into the same category as food. Um air is absolutely a factor. I mean, there's there's definitely much more pollution than there was, and different kinds of pollution, different kinds of particles in the air, and also depending on where you live, you know. Like for instance, I I live next to the ocean. So um we get a we get a nice sea breeze every day, which brings in the fresh air. So obviously, people along the coast where I live are rather healthy, you know. But if you have someone living in a city, they're definitely gonna have more health issues for not only because of the air, but there's also various other reasons why someone in a big city who lives in the concrete jungle would definitely be battling different issues to someone like myself who lives next to the ocean. So, yeah, absolutely the air. And then if you want to talk about the water, then obviously we have um, you know, like if you look at normal city city water, then you've got uh you've got hormones floating around in there. You know, most parts of the world can't actually filter out the hormones. They they can filter out um bacteria and toxins and that kind of thing. They put the chemicals in there, which also is an issue, but they they can kill the bacteria. Basically, surge water, everything just goes through that plant. They they nuke it with a with a chemical compound, and then it comes back into your water system and it contains. I mean, obviously, fluoride, that's a whole different subject, which is uh definitely worth discussing, but the hormones, specifically estrogen, is is builds up in the water supply, like as time goes on. So I asked you wrote an article on this as well. You know, can can can city water make you fat? And and it and it actually can because of the estrogen in the city water. So it builds up and builds up and builds up, and then people's hormonal balances start to get disrupted in men and women, you know. So that obviously causes all sorts of other issues as well. So, yeah, absolutely water.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

All right, so basically we're talking about the food we eat, the water we drink, the air we breathe, obviously very fundamental for human health. Now, then let's just say we're not eating good food, we're not breathing clean air, and we're not drinking clean water. Obviously, those are things that can be fixed pretty quickly. But but how do we get to these root cause issues, right? I mean, you talk a lot about handling root cause issues as opposed to you know just treating symptoms. So can you walk us through that a little bit?

SPEAKER_01 6:19

All right, so you know, symptoms are actually quite important when it comes to health and being able to establish what's actually going on. And one would think blood tests are like the be-all and end all of testing someone's level of health, but that's actually not the case because your the the levels in your blood changes throughout the day, firstly. A lot of um deficiencies are on an intercellular level, so these things don't get um don't get tested. Something like diabetes, for instance. If you they test glucose and glucose levels, and eventually when their A1C starts to go through the roof, then they go, oh man, this guy's got diabetes or pre-diabetes or he's extremely insulin resistant. Where had they been testing insulin levels, they they could have stopped this 15 years back when this issue actually started. So as far as symptoms go, we have like a health uh uh an assessment that we do on our website where it has a bunch of symptoms, and it's almost like a um like a personality test that you would write when you're going for a job or something, you know, and it and it wraps up all of these symptoms which indicate either deficiencies or hormonal um disruptions, and there's there's there's a few very specific ones which would be an absolute telltale sign that there's something wrong with this part of the body. And if you can establish that, then you know that there that these other things would follow. You know, so so then you can start going in for that and you know, re-reversing whatever the what the root cause of it is by backing up and taking the guy back to an ancestral type of diet, a diet that the human body or the homosapium body was designed to process.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

That makes sense. So a lot of these things, obviously, we're talking about endocrine disruptors. Um, how does this affect also the immune system?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Well, I mean, if you if you're looking at uh where the immune system comes from, so you so basically your gut is you know the core of the immune system. The liver has a lot to do with that. The liver has a lot to do with with both the immune system and the endocrine system, it converts certain hormones, and it if if your if your liver's not working properly, for instance, you're not going to be digesting food properly, it's going to be messing up your your intestinal walls, the protective layer in your intestinal walls. People start getting things like leaky gut. So now you're now you're looking at you know where does it start? So it probably starts with digestion. So you put something in your mouth, and like mom always told you, you know, chew your food, you know, that's kind of the start of it. That's that's kind of the start of good health, you know. So you chew your food, that food goes down your esophagus into your stomach, which has stomach acid in it. Which which in in the Western world right now, most people are deficient in stomach acid, which is one of the first causes of uh a compromised immune system. So now the the stomach acid's not strong enough, it's not doesn't digest those food particles, and it goes down into the small intestine, and the liver puts some bile in there, and the uh pancreas puts some enzymes in there, and it starts to break down the fats and everything, and it's supposed to be absorbed into the system that way. But and that's how your immune system starts to uh starts to build, is is through that digestive gut system. So so if you and then as a result of you know the the body now not digesting food properly, and there's and there's certain issues that start to come up with the digestive system, and a cascade of issues start to happen after that with the endocrine system. So the endocrine system starts to crash, and that obviously is all connected to you know the immune system, which you just asked me about. Like let's say, but then again, there's also um exterior factors like stress, for instance. So it's a highly stressed world at the time, it's very high-paced, not what we were designed to to live in. So Homo sapiens were designed to live like dealing with an immediate fear or an immediate danger, for instance, handling that with a group of people that that support you and you would get through it. Now, in modern times, we are given um we are given fear type scenarios from the other side of the world that we were never meant to be processing, you know. So all of these factors actually play a role in the endocrine system, in a healthy endocrine system and a healthy immune system. So it's food, water, you know, the environmental factors that the person is sub uh subject to as he lives his daily life. So yeah, does that answer your question?

SPEAKER_00 11:34

I think it does. So basically, this all gets summed up under what metabolic health?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Yeah, absolutely. It's all about it's all about your metabolism because your metabolism, if your if your metabolism's disrupted or slowing down, it means you're not processing food for energy and oxygen for energy at a fast enough rate. So with all of these things, these things start to happen because different receptors start work stop working properly, so they're not accepting these hormones, they're not accepting nutrients. The person starts getting hungrier and hungrier because of this, and he's eating more and more of the wrong food. He's got the news channel playing in the background, you know, and all of these, all of these aspects of life are coming at him and just basically spiraling him in as far as his health goes, you know. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

So you have this amazing story of a patient in Sweden. Can you share that story with us?

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Yeah. So so basically, uh a doctor contacted us asking us to handle um uh one of the one of his patients who was diabetic and he was he was quite obese. And they had to operate on his heart. So this is the thing with like insulin resistance and the heart or diabetes and the heart is starts to form um a specific kind of fat inside the heart. It's almost like a visceral fat, but it's a specific, very toxic kind of fat that starts to form in the heart valve and around the heart, it starts to smother the heart muscles. So this is what this guy had going on. So this doctor contacted us and he said, you know, can we can we get this guy to drop 20 kilograms, which is about 44 pounds or something, or 48 pounds or something like that? And I said, Yeah, yeah, sure. You know, send him to us, we'll we'll help him. So um this guy started with us. He got very on board, this guy. He was like, you know, he was keen to to deal with this whole issue because I think he'd had quite a health scare. And we got him on our on a specific program designed specifically for him. And he he'd lost, I think, uh about 13 kilograms, which is about 30 pounds in the first month. And this is all healthy weight loss, you know. And he started to completely change. This guy was going outside, he was going for walks, his his glucose levels, his A1C was dropping, everything was starting to come into rank. I knew this would happen. I mean, I didn't tell the doctor this because I knew the doctor would have gone, hey, wait, we actually still want to operate on this guy, you know. Um, but it got to a point where after the 60 days on the program, this guy was already running a podcast of his own uh about how why you should be healthy. I mean, this is how much this guy's life had changed. He was like, he was he was like so into this, he was so invested in it. Anyway, he went back to the doctor, and I mean I never lose contact with my clients, I always contact them from time to time to make sure they're still on the wagon. And um, but he contacted me within a few days of finishing the program, and he was like, I went to go see my doctor today, and my diabetes is is more or less reversed completely, and I no longer need the heart operation. So um he he ended up like basically handling the serious issue, which would have meant open heart surgery just by uh eating the correct food that was that he was meant to be eating, you know.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Yeah, that's incredible. So what what do you feel that people are overcomplicating when it comes to their diet?

SPEAKER_01 15:23

You know, obviously you've got I I'll be honest with you, being in South Africa, it it's we're very we're very practical people uh who think on a very simple some uh think with simplicity. The more the more simple it is, the more workable it is. Like basically that that's how it is. And I think people watch too much TikTok and YouTube, and and not too much of it, but too many influences. There's so many like health gurus trying to influence people with their own agenda, you know, and probably more than 50% of them are being paid to run an agenda, and you'll get a few people like Dr. Eric Berg, for instance, who has no agenda. His agenda is you know to help people. So these guys get into this thing where it's like, what about this special new supplement that's come out? Shouldn't I be taking that? Or what about this thing? Shouldn't I be doing that, or why aren't I eating cheese anymore, or you know, all these kinds of things, and it's and it's really just goes back to a very simple and fundamental program, which is based on like a like an ancestral type of diet, and and this is what our program is run on. It's run on an ancestral type of eating. So, what were we eating like 200,000 years ago when these Homo sapiens parties first started walking this planet? What we were designed to do, we have this organization inside us, which has these organs like departments in a in a in a business or a company, you know, they all have these little things that they're meant to do, and they and you know, if you overwork one of them just like you do with you know an employee, this thing's gonna fail at some point, it's gonna cave in, you know. So, so if you look at it from that point of view, it's like, okay, so how much insulin is your pancreas meant to be excreting on a daily basis or per meal? How many meals is your digestive tract meant to be processing at any time? How frequently is it meant to be eating? And you look at it from that point of view, and I and I'll tell you where this backed up and and really made sense to me and why I knew I was on the right track is I used to be in the military and I and I had a uh I was in a very specialized unit, and we were like we would I was on a course once and we were put into the bush, we were trained to live off the bush, basically, you know, going to the bush, eat what you can find, kind of thing. And I spent a week in the bush basically picking up bugs, and I even ate a snake, a pipe bad, you know, whatever you can get your hands on. And I I'd never felt better. You know, this is this is long before I'd gotten into the whole health thing. I I'd never felt better. I I felt great, and I and I noticed the cycle that was happening. I noticed when I ate, everything calmed down in my system, and I and I could sit down and chill out, and then as a day or two rolled by, I would start to become more anxious. Not necessarily anxious, might be the wrong word, but more alert, maybe like more wired. And I could feel it was time for me to start looking for food again, and I became very focused, and and you know, so I was like, well, and what was actually happening was I would eat, my body would produce glucose, it would chill me down, chill me out, and then as those and not a not a not too much glucose, just enough glucose, like the body was made to handle, and then those glucose would would fade away within a few hours, and then the the ketones would come back in, and the and the alertness would start to you know creep in again, and it would be I would become more and more alert, and and I could also run for like the entire day. I could just run, you know, and I was like full of energy. And so when I when I I wrote a book called the The Homo sapien diet, and while I was writing this book, this actually struck me as like it's as simple as that. It's as simple as looking at it from the point of view of what were we eating when you know what's the natural thing for this Homo sapien body to eat and how frequently? And if you do that, surely this body should run right. And I do that, and my body runs right, you know. So that's how simple it is. It's like literally looking at it from that point of view. You don't have to be, I mean, then again, you now now we're in now we're in uh like modern era where we have these toxins in our food and in the air, in the water, and all of these things, and they've done damage to the body, so and that damage has to be reversed. So there are certain things that you would have to add into the person's diet, certain supplements that you would have to add into the person's diet to fix those things. And also, you know, the food that we eat, even if we're eating it, even if we're getting it from an organic farmer, you know, grass-fed, grass-finished beef or whatever it might be, you would still be in a position where they're not eating the amount of nutrition. These animals are not eating the amount of nutrition that they were 200, 300, 400 years ago. You know, the soil has changed, it's not the same as it was, you know. So so you would also have to supplement things like electrolytes and you know, all of those minerals that you would get from plants or animals that you would have got from them that you're not getting from them anymore, even if they are extremely well farmed, you know.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Totally. So one of what are some of the biggest lies that you've discovered in your industry that once you got into it you realized were just totally false.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Right. I mean, one of the biggest lies is calorie counting. Like you gotta you gotta count calories to be healthy and lose weight. Yeah, that's probably you can you can lose weight that way, but but you're gonna ruin the endocrine system. You're not meant to be counting calories, you're just meant to be eating the right food. Labels on food are generally lies. So if you go and have a look at a keto bar at the supermarket, and then you turn it over and you have These ingredients on the back, which are like not keto, you know, or you know, the and and the the and the the front of the packaging would say keto-friendly, the healthiest protein bar around, you know. And you look on the back, it's got 10 grams of sugar in it or something like that. So so these kinds of things I would say are the biggest lies. I mean, I don't want to get into the whole medical um field because there's a bunch of lies there too, which have which have ruined people's health, you know. Um, but as far as food goes, you know, the old food pyramid just before it was changed recently, you know, it was it was a ridiculous lie. I mean, it it was obvious that it was a lie. People have been never never been sicker since since that food pyramid came out, you know. And um it's not that I 100% agree with the new food pyramid. I I'm not I I don't agree with fruit and that and that kind of thing. Fruit is fructose, fructose is very, very hard on the liver, you know. So I would take the fruit out of that and and leave everything else. But otherwise, I mean people are far better off with the new fruit pyramid. So that's kind of one lie that's been corrected by by the right people.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Sure. So the the the next interesting thing to talk about is controversies. Controversies could be fun because sometimes there's some truth in it. Uh, what is one of the controversies you've seen out there that's actually been sort of true?

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Okay, so when I when I started doing keto, I started doing keto like 15, 16 years ago. And I I'm an avid cyclist, I'm I've always been an avid sportsman. I did I did sport at an international level. I've I've always kept fit. And I've I I've cycled with a club that guys who are my age, you know, at the time I was like 40, early 40s, and and they all found out I was on this new diet, you know, and it was like you're gonna die. You're gonna die of a heart attack, there's too much fat, you know, you you're you're all gonna die, and and I'm still going, and I'm still as strong as ever, you know, and it was a big controversy in South Africa. This professor Tim Nokes, the guy that I studied through, he almost ended up in jail in prison over pushing the keto diet. So he he had to go to he was in court, he had charges laid against him, he was stripped of all his titles. It was it was a very stressful time for this poor guy. I actually went to one of his workshops where he was talking about the attack on him, and and you know, it's almost like you know, coming up and saying, I've got a cure for cancer, you know, like you'll be taken you'll be taken out like the same day, kind of thing, you know. So that was very interesting that this guy got so heavily attacked by the medicos who who know zero about nutrition, you know, like their their training is maybe three hours in their entire four or five or six years of of study that they do, they do about three hours of training on nutrition. The rest is you know diagnose and prescribed. You know, so these guys were attacking this poor guy, and it was it was a it was a massive controversy in in South Africa um at the time, you know, like everybody was like against Tim Nokes and Tim Nokes don't listen to Tim Nokes, you know, which which was what picked my ears up, and I was like, oh, what is this Tim Lakes guy saying? I'd I'd like to know.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

How does improving metabolic health impact other areas of life such as like mental health?

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Oh wow. It is there there is no comparison when when you are metabolically healthy, when you are when you've handled your insulin resistance, you have handled your diet, you've um you're eating, you're you're eating the the right food for your cells to regenerate because you're doing about 1.2 kilograms of cells per day that you are regenerating. And those cells are going to be built on what you're putting in your mouth, what you're breathing in, what you're drinking, kind of the environment you live in. That's that's the building blocks for those cells. So when you have uh it if you just think about it, it's it's obvious that your body is going to start operating properly and it's going to be moving faster, it's lighter, you become more alert, you have less health issues. I haven't been to see a doctor in probably 20 years. I'm 58 years old. Yeah, I haven't been to see a doctor in 20 years. I don't need to see a doctor. I mean, I I don't need to see a doctor, you know. So so that's what a metabolic health can do is if you get it right, you literally will save yourself so much pain and heartache that it's just unreal the difference. I mean, we we've put so many people through this program and we've changed so many lives. I mean, that guy I was speaking about in Sweden of the heart issue. That's just that's just one miracle of handling someone's metabolic health. People have we had a lady recently in in the US who she was so overweight and she was so sick, she had sores on her skin, it was horrible. And she did about seven months with us. She lost a hundred pounds, and she now works a full day. She couldn't work before, she couldn't even get out of the house to go to work. Now she works, she works a full day, she exercises every day. She's like a completely different person to what she was 12 months ago, like just 12 months, you know, and and we could do that in 60 days sometimes if the person's not so too front-gone, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Wow, that's incredible. Nice work. If someone listening today wants to do something about their metabolic health, what would be your very first recommendation to them?

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Okay, there's there's the very first thing would be cut out cut out the sugar and anything that makes sugar in your body. So that means grains, starchy vegetables, starchy food, and sugar, because all of that turns to glucose in your body. It's the same glucose, whether it's basmati rice or whether it's actual sugar cane that you're eating, turns to the same sugar in the body. That would be the first thing I would do. The second thing I would do is get them to cut out all seed oils. If they can cut out all seed oils, if they just do those two things, they won't necessarily lose weight because weight loss is something different, but they will definitely get healthier.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

That's incredible. Thank you for that advice. You're welcome. So if I wanted to work with you, where would I go? How do I find you?

SPEAKER_01 29:19

So our website um is bestbodyhealthcoaching.com and bestbody healthcoach.com. Sorry, bestbodyhealthcoach.com. You'll you would go to the online survey. That online survey is a is a initially a short survey, just so that you have an idea what's going on with you. And then at the end of the survey, you book a call with us, and we have a bunch of uh coaches, and we we kind of make sure the coach is compatible for whoever they're coaching. Like I would coach the men, uh, some some middle-aged or older woman I would coach as well, but Marina normally does that, um, like menopausal type woman, um, which is a big part of our business. And um, and then we have Nikita. Sorry, you want to say something?

SPEAKER_00 30:13

No, I was just saying sure.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Oh, yeah, okay. So, and then we have Nikita, who's a younger woman, and um, she's a mother, like with two small children, so she handles the children, and she handles um like like women who are trying to fall pregnant. I mean, that that's another whole thing. You know, we've helped people you know conceive and whatever that they couldn't do it in the last 10 years, kind of thing. Um, so she handles all of that kind of thing. Um, and then we actually have uh uh a branch in Mexico, so they do Latam for us, they do the whole of Latam. And um if they come from if they come from the Latin America, then we would refer them to the Mexico people. And uh so that's how they would get a hold of us, you know. And um we would, you know, they get a they get a very comprehensive personalized program where they could they'll have a coach who would who would run them through this program every single day for 60 days. So every single day you would hear from your coach. And it's all it's all done over WhatsApp and and signal and and those types of platforms. They're very user-friendly, they're very quick and fast. Email is too slow these days. Email is like the old snail male now. And um, so you have, you know, so it's yeah, so so obviously they are busy, we're busy, we have a lot of people we have to deal with, they have their jobs and lives to live. So we don't want to phone call with them every day. So we watch that. If there's if there's a phone call needed, we would do that. But it's all over WhatsApp. We uh we we educate them. Our product at the end of the whole program is not necessarily just having someone regained their health or lost the weight that they wanted to lose or handles the condition that they had and why they came to us. It's the education which is key. So we educate this person, they get a free um, it's called the health mastery course. It's a it's 21 uh modules, and you it's it's a it's a very like A to B type of course where you learn about the body, and um and then you also will get we have an AI coach in case we're not available. So we've we've trained an AI agent in uh all of my materials, all the books I've written, all the advice letters I've written, all the articles I've written are written over the years. It's just thousands and thousands of articles. So we've trained this agent in that, and it's a wonderful thing, it's actually better than me, you know. It's like instant, you know. So um they get that with the program, they get up, they get a they get an e-book bundle, you know. So the the person gets to the end of the program, and you know, they can make their own decision at that point, whether they whether they like feeling the way they do now, or or they preferred feeling like they did before, you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

That's incredible. Well, thank you for all the amazing work you do. Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to be here with us. I really appreciate it. Before you go, is there anything else you wanted to share?

SPEAKER_01 33:30

You know, I I'm very impressed with what's going on in the US at the moment as far as the health goes. You know, it it the the US has been betrayed. The people of the United States have been betrayed as far as their food goes. They they really have. And the way it's all being turned around now is is fantastic. You know, I I really I really think people in the US need to take notice of what's happening and what's being done for them because it's almost one of the most important things that has happened in the US 20 uh in the last 12 months. Like, and I mean that because you can have money, you can have possessions, but if you don't have your health, it's a scary thing, man. It's a scary thing to be, you know, to have some kind of a health compromise, a serious health compromise going on, you know. So if you just follow what these guys are saying, or people like me, uh you would, you know, you'd you'd definitely set yourself up for a much better life.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Well said, Nick. I really appreciate that. Uh we can't wait to have you on again soon. And for those listening, thank you for joining for another episode of Never Been Sicker. I'm your host, indoor air quality expert, Michael Rubino, and I'll see you soon.