What Makes A Surrogacy Journey Feel Like Family

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She was 17 when a doctor told her she might never carry a child and the fear followed her for years. Then Tayler finds herself on the other side of the table: a first-time gestational surrogate, one month postpartum, telling the kind of surrogacy story that feels almost scripted because everything lines up.

We sit down with Tayler to trace the full surrogacy process from the beginning, starting with her endometriosis diagnosis, the second opinion that changed everything, and how two easy pregnancies still didn’t erase the anxiety. When she and her husband decide their family is complete, she admits a surprising truth: she doesn’t want another baby, but she wants pregnancy again and she needs closure. That honesty leads her into research, an advocacy community, and eventually choosing a surrogacy agency that supports her through matching, clinic travel, and the long list of IVF medications.

Tayler also shares what made her match so special: two intended dads in Los Angeles who wanted a real relationship, not a transactional arrangement. We talk embryo timelines, ERA testing, progesterone in oil shots, and the reality of coordinating care across time zones, including a coworker helping with injections at school. From the 12-week ultrasound to the baby shower and a redo 3D scan after a disappointing OB visit, Tayler shows how trust and communication can carry a journey. Then comes an induced labor, a delivery room playlist with perfect timing, and a fast birth that ends with everyone getting exactly what they hoped for: a healthy baby girl and a bond that feels like family.

If you’re a potential surrogate, intended parent, or just want a true surrogacy success story with real details, hit play, then subscribe, share, and leave a review so more people can find these conversations. What question about surrogacy do you want us to tackle next?

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Transcript

Welcome And Sponsor Message

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome. We are a mother-daughter podcast about all things surrogacy. Together, we have brought eight beautiful babies into this world. And we would like to share through education and knowledge about surrogacy with those who want to educate themselves on the topic. This is Stop Fit Surrogate. This episode is sponsored by U.S. Surrogacy LLC. If you've ever dreamed of helping grow a family or are hoping to grow your own, U.S. Surrogacy LLC is here to guide you every step of the way. They are a dedicated surrogacy agency committed to supporting intended parents and surrogates through a compassionate, ethical, and well-supported journey. US Surrogacy LLC works with amazing women who want to make a life-changing difference by becoming a surrogate while also helping intended parents experience the incredible gift of parenthood. Their team focuses on transparency, strong communication, and personalized support so that everyone involved feels confident, cared for, and informed throughout the entire process. If you've ever considered becoming a surrogate, or if you're an intended parent exploring your options, US Surrogacy LLC is ready to help you take that next step. To learn more about their programs and how you can get started, visit us-surrogacy.com.com. And now let's get into today's episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Hey everybody, welcome back to Stopsit Surrogate with Kennedy and Ellen.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

We have a wonderful guest joining us today. We're gonna let her introduce herself. Go ahead. Take it away.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Hello, my name is Taylor. First time surrogate.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Oh my gosh. Um, okay. Well, our favorite question always is how how'd you find out about surrogacy? Okay, do that and then I'll jump.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Uh so it actually goes back a little ways uh till I was 17. Oh my gosh. Wow. Um it's kind of a long story, so I'll try and make it short. But we love stories. Becoming, yeah. So becoming a mom has just always been like my greatest desire in life since I was a little girl. I've been like fascinated by pregnancy and just amazed how our bodies could do that and create like this new life. Um, and it actually grew even stronger when I was 18 uh or 17 and I found out that I had endometriosis.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Um, my family doctor actually told me that I had severe endometriosis. 17? Yeah. You poor thing. Were you experien I'm gonna jump a little?

SPEAKER_02 2:44

Were you experiencing symptoms?

SPEAKER_03 2:45

And that's why you sought a doctor's right. So I actually I was a late bloomer, so I didn't get my period until 16.

unknown 2:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:54

Um I can relate girl. Like within that year. Yeah. So within that year, I started having like my periods were so painful. Even sex was painful, and I was just like, what can we do?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

Um so my family doctor at the time, she was like, Oh, we can do this procedure where we can scrape your lining so it you won't have your period, so that you won't experience pain. But as we all know, the lining is uh pretty important to carry a child. So she told me that I wouldn't be able to have my own carry my own children. No, at 17? You've got to make that life. I don't know who would tell a 17-year-old that.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

That's crazy. I went to school with a girl who was told that she was like basically like infertile, like she couldn't have kids. And I remember her processing it, and she that that was hard. And I'm like, We're in high school.

SPEAKER_03 3:51

Who who was literally wrecked me? Yeah, yeah, I bet. Yeah, I was heartbroken. So of course my mom was like, let's go get a second opinion.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Yeah, we went from yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

So we went to the Cleveland Clinic um in Ohio. I'm from Erie, PA. Yeah, I'm from PA. So it wasn't like that far, it was probably like two hours. Okay, yeah. So we uh got a second opinion, and this doctor was like, You don't have severe endometriosis, it's mild. There's like 20 to 40 spots, severe would be like 200 to 500 spots, like and she's like, Your tubes are clear, and that's really all you need to get pregnant. Okay, and so she put me on like this birth control that I would only get my period three times a year. Yes, yeah, so it would just limit the pain. And I'm like, okay, well, that makes me feel a lot better. Yeah, but still, like in the back of my head, I was like, you know, I was scared that I just wouldn't be able to carry my own kids, like that's just was my became my greatest fear at that point. So my whole life I just kind of had that in the back of the back of my head. Uh so fast forward to when I'm 27 and found my soulmate, Travis, um, and we got married and had kids or trying to have kids.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

Um, I was very anxious about it, but I got pregnant right away. Okay. Yay! Pregnancy, no complications, healthy baby girl. Yay. Um, and then two years later, almost to the exact day, uh, same thing happened with my son. Took on the first try, easy pregnancy, smooth and quick delivery. Uh, so it turns out my body's actually really good at carrying delivery.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Yeah, that's amazing. But a decade of worry and anxiety. And I truly, truly did. You poor thing. That takes a toll. But yay, for your mom to be like, man, we're gonna get a second opinion before we do some life-altering situation here. And Cleveland Clinic, like, yeah.

Endometriosis Diagnosis And Second Opinion

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Uh-huh. Right. Go to the best, right? There you go. Like, go to one of the best. Yeah, they're the best. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

Good for you. Good for you guys. Yeah. Well, thank God it worked out. Yeah. She knew that that was not the only option. Yeah, awesome. Yes. Gosh. Um, so yeah. So then when surrogacy came up was because uh when Travis and I decided we were done having kids, okay. It was actually a really tough decision. And I always pictured myself with three kids. I loved being pregnant. I emotionally wasn't ready to say I was done. Okay. But at the same time, I didn't want another baby. We have our boy, we have our girl, our family felt complete, but I just like I don't know, I got super emotional, I couldn't talk about it. And I didn't know like what that meant. Yeah. It was really hard for me. Um, so when I was like openly talking about those feelings to like my co-workers or to family members, I was just like, I don't want a baby, but I want to be pregnant again. I didn't know that Brooks, my son, was gonna be my last, my last pregnancy, you know. I didn't treasure it. Yeah, I don't really even remember it because I had a a one-year-old to take care of at the time, you know. It's just it's different your second pregnancy. You just like don't really fully being a mom. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're too busy. Um, so people were like, Well, why don't you just be a surrogate? And I was like, uh huh, ha ha ha. Like, yeah, maybe. Um, but then like the more I talked about it, and I was like, well, let me look into it and see if that is something I'd want to do. Or because you know, I was afraid that I'd be attached to the baby, or like, how would I feel when the baby's gone? Um, but then I did some research and I was like, actually, I think I'd be really good at this. Yeah. And I think it would give me my closure that I really needed. Yeah. And yet I'm helping bring a little life for someone else. Like, that's amazing. And win-win. So all of it. Yeah, that's where it started.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

So cool. That's so fun. That's a fun way for it to start to find out about surrogates. Yeah, a lot of people at your age, it's like, oh, I watched Friends and Phoebe, and you know, that kind of thing. Yeah, like that's like that's like the norm. Like, that's how, you know, if my mom wasn't a surrogate, that's how I would have known, but my mom and Phoebe were surrogates at the same time. So, you know, kind of went hand in hand for me. But that's a that's that's really cool. Okay, so then you said you did your research. Good for you. Yes, good for you. Um where when you after you did your research, like, where did you kind of go? Did you go like social media outlets, or did you like just Google it for like did you go in agency or independent?

SPEAKER_03 9:01

Agency, yeah. So I actually when I was just researching it, um, I tried to find like some sort of like mentoring group or advocacy group. Um, and that's where I stumbled upon surrogacy is. Yeah, yeah. Because we started as an um advocacy group. And so I got connected with someone there, and I had my first like interest call. Um, it wasn't like uh anything serious, I didn't sign anything. It was just like, let's just openly talk about it. Okay, because my husband had a lot of questions. Right. So that's where it took off was that that first phone call. Um, we were able to ask all of our questions and and he was on board.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

I'm always interested to hear how the partners deal with it. Like, was he on board from the get-go, or was he like, are you out of your mind?

SPEAKER_03 9:52

Like so I took him out to dinner, you know. I had to plan a little date night, and I'm like, I need to actually talk to you. You can't you can't talk about anything serious with kids around. No, that's great. So I literally took him out to dinner and was like, I need to talk to you about something serious. Okay, and I gave him all my reasons why, and he knew like he knew I really needed that closure. Um, and he doesn't want any more, he was like, We're done. 100%, we're done. Okay. So he's like, Whatever you need to um, you know, get you know, saw whatever your pain is that you have right now, like to just he was open to it. Okay, he's the best. So he was definitely open to it, but he had a ton of questions, yeah. And he was very concerned about my health, my safety, postpartum, uh, all the above. So he's like, send me some articles or you know, send me something to read. And I actually found um a podcast episode where they interviewed the husbands. I think it it might have been from Surrogassias on their podcast. I'm not sure. Or maybe YouTube, I don't know where I found it at the time. It was so long ago. But I found that and I actually I sent that to him and he said that helped. Oh, good. That's great. That is great. Yeah. Um, so yeah, since we talked about we took a few weeks, you know, and talked about it and yeah, went over scenarios, but um, yeah, he's he's my number one supporter. He's the best. He's always he's always there to support me.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

And are your kids on the younger side or are they able to comprehend what's going on?

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Um, they just have their birthdays, they're four days apart.

unknown 11:42

Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

Um, but two years, but if four days um March babies, yeah. So they just turned six and four. Oh, okay. Okay. A little bit of grasping there.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

I'm more for the six than the four, but yeah. Okay.

unknown 11:56

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

And where are you in the journey?

SPEAKER_03 12:01

What do you mean? So have you done it? I am one month postpartum today.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Out! You look at you with a long time surrogate. I didn't hear that part. Maybe it glitches. Okay, it's been a long day for Alan. It's okay. Sorry. Um exactly. One month today. I remember chatting with you. That's right. Yes, one month. Oh my gosh. One month. Fantastic. You look rested. What the hell? Oh, it's glitchy. Wait, you look fantastic. Thanks. What you feel good? Thank you. Do feel good.

unknown 12:36

Oh my god. Oh my god.

Wanting Pregnancy Again After Two Kids

SPEAKER_02 12:38

I want to hear it. I want to like okay, so so you said that you were with Sergeus E is um when they were at the advocacy portion, right? So did you, I'm assuming you went forward with them and like kind of like found an agency with their help?

unknown 12:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Correct. So once we decided we were gonna do this, we I told my coordinator and take person at the time from Surrogasias that we are ready to move forward. Um, and so filled out a bunch of like, you know, profiles and stuff. And then they presented me with two agency options. And one was Sarro Gasias. Oh, okay. They weren't agency. And the other was New York, New York Surrogacy Center, which are both great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. New York's great. So I kind of just base a decision off of the benefit packages that they both offered. Um, surrogacy is definitely um, I think supports the surrogate. Um had more resources, had more benefits. Um, and I was already talking to someone there, so I kind of just thought it was common sense. Uh obvious choice for me. So I went with them. Okay. Um, so yeah, they became my my agency.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Wow. There we go. Okay. Wow, that's pretty cool. Okay, so then for so I was with them on my last journey. I don't think I've ever publicly said that. Um, see, like I don't think I've ever publicly said that. No, I don't think you have either.

unknown 14:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

But I was with them for my well, there it is. There it is. Um but um, you know, we all it unfortunately my last journey didn't work out, but that's for other reasons. But um, so when it came time for you to look at profiles, did they how did that go for you? I wonder if it was different. So they only gave me one profile at a time.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Okay. That's about that's the same as me.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Yes, yeah. Based on a wish list that you had given them ahead of time. And what I say by wish list is just kind of what you were looking for in a couple, not like, I want the lottery.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

Okay, yeah, like yeah, and like they do, I mean, I had to fill out a a bunch of stuff, it was very detailed. My profile was intense. Um, I had to write a letter, you know, to the my future intended parents, um, which was kind of hard for me because I don't really like to brag about myself or talk myself up, you know, like it's weird to talk about it. It is weird, yeah. Toot your own horn. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Yeah, like pick me, choose me, love me.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

I'm like, right.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Um but so then I got, yeah. So actually I signed, I signed with the agency on October 9th of 2024. Okay. Okay. Uh-huh. And then my profile went live December 27th.

unknown 15:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Okay. Right after Christmas. Okay. And I got my first profile the next day on the 28th. So like literally the next day. Wow. And so I had 24 hours, 24 hours to decide if I wanted to move forward with them into a match call or pass and wait for another profile.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

I don't know if that was the same as yours, but I only met with one person.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

I only chose one person to meet with. I don't remember the other steps. But so did you choose that profile? That was profile.

SPEAKER_03 16:25

Sure did. Yeah. Yeah. So they were the first profile. Yeah. Wow. Um, I must have read it like 20 times. I was just so curious. Um, and then I tried to find them on social media, of course. So funny. Right. Gotta do this. But I couldn't find them. You know, I only know their first names. Right, right, right. Um, but yeah, then we uh had our match call uh January 18th. Okay, wow, and we had so much in common, they're the same age as my husband and I. Wow. Um, so we grew up knowing like the same shows and movies and pop culture, and we're both obsessed with our dogs. We brought our dogs into the Zoom call, they got to meet. And how far away are they?

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Like in proximity.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

Yeah, so so that was my next thing. So they they checked all my boxes um except for location. Okay. So I wanted someone close. Okay. I wanted uh I don't know. I just thought if they were more local or closer to me, we would have more of a close connection. Um, they are in LA. Oh, hey oh! Okay, so still state, so still state within the states, you know, not international, still state, just completely opposite sides. Yeah, yeah. Um and and they thought the same thing. There were like, you know, they they thought that they wanted someone close so they could go to all the appointments and be really involved. Um, but um you matched on every other level. You matched right, and then we matched on every other level. It was just a location for the both of us that we were just like, oh no. But um, after the match call, we just we clicked right away. Um I couldn't imagine doing it for anyone else. We just it just seemed right. Yeah. You feel it in your gut, right? Yep. You do, you do, and I was really nervous. I even told my husband, I'm like, don't like fall in in love with the first people you meet. Like, I know you. You're gonna be like, oh yeah, we'll do this for you. So I was like trying to like downplay him, yet it was me after the call. I like texted my coordinator, like, yes, yes, yes, like without even talking to my husband. So yeah, so and then they they said yes to right away. So we matched like that night right after the call. So that's in January, like January.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Yes, you're matched. Okay, okay. So then of 2025. So things are moving kind of quick if you're one month postpartum. Yeah, things are moving fast. Okay, yes, wow. So do you go to LA to their clinic to like get cleared and stuff, or okay?

Researching Surrogacy And Partner Buy-In

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Yep. So yeah, right when we said yes um in January. Um I flew to LA for the the the medical clearance on February 16th. Wow, that is fast. Oh, that's one month. That's great. Wow. Okay. Um, and that was great. You know, my husband came with me and we got to meet them. That they met us at the airport. They we spent the whole day together. Um, it took us to all the fancy places, um, all the cool spots. We've never been to California before, so they were amazing tour guides. Um, and then the next day we went into their clinic to see their doctor, meet their doctor. Um, I was medically cleared um in like a couple like a week after that, like the 27th. We got mil, yeah, we got cleared. That's great.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

And they already had embryos created, yeah. No, no, great question, mom. Then this is even crazier. Then that's even crazier how fast this is.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

And I didn't even know that was like a thing until like, you know, later when I started like listening to your podcast, like crazy, um, and like learning that most people wouldn't really match with someone who didn't have embryos yet. Right, but yeah, that was not on my radar at all. I didn't know that was like a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

So wait, so the I have to back up. So the agency, nobody was like, hey, so they don't have embryos created, so this could take longer, like so.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

I think it was mentioned in our match call that they didn't have embryos, but like to me, that did just didn't mean anything. Okay, no, it wasn't like harped on, like it was a very long process, right? Okay, and being new to services. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Yep, got it.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Okay, so then I'm gonna ask, do you do fresh or frozen?

SPEAKER_03 21:13

No, so it was frozen. Okay, okay. It was frozen. So their egg donor, their egg donor had her um retrieval a week after I was there. Okay, okay, so they were on top of it. They had an egg donor, they just had to get the retrieval. Okay. Yeah, they were ready, yes. Yes, it was all in the works, it they just didn't have any yet. Um but yes, her uh retrieval was around the same time I was there in LA. Wow, that's amazing. And so then they ended up having four healthy embryos. That's great.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

That's great. Did they test them?

SPEAKER_03 21:53

Yeah, they they had them tested, and there were three boys and one girl. Oh, one girl. Are they going with the girl? They only want a girl. So really pressure was on. I was so so nervous. Yeah. Um but luckily their girl embryo was the healthiest. It was a double A or four double A, whatever the grading scale was. She was like the top one. Meant to be. No way. Totally meant to be.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

I just got the chills. That's so fun. So when do you transfer? No, I'm asking. When do you transfer? No, no, no. You're not asking. Because I was about to say before we jump, because Ellen likes to jump. Whatever. What was your med protocol? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Med protocol.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

Yes. Sorry. So med protocol. I had to get on birth control first. Okay. Because they wanted to just make sure they could track my cycle. So that wasn't fun. I hate birth control. Okay. But then yeah. And then we ended up doing a mock cycle, an ERA done. Okay. Because since it was their only girl embryo, they wanted to just take every precaution and get the best um outcome. So I had to do my protocol was estradol um injections every three days. Then um proestrogen and oil shots daily. And then I also had to do oral pills for progesterone too. Okay. Well, so no suppositories?

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

Those are messy. Nope. I did I did do suppositories. Alright, I take my shirt away. Yes. Yes. But I I weren't a huge they weren't really annoying to you.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

Okay. One of the lucky ones. Can I back up just a teeny teeny bit?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Just a teeny bit. And wait, I'll wait till we unglitch. There we go. Because you had all these concerns ahead of time and then you ended up getting pregnant on your own with your two kids, like boom, boom, no problem. Did did your endometriosis like right itself? Did it stop? Did it because technically that you know it keeps going, right? And it keeps getting worse and worse.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Like yeah, I I don't know. Um, I I had to show all of my uh paperwork and all that, uh, and and send it to the clinic, and the clinic checked, and like I don't know if it's still there or not, to be honest. So you're not having like major symptoms like you were before? No, so it's probably better. Good, yeah, yeah. Okay, not as painful, yeah. Perfect, perfect.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

And that was never a concern for the parents or for the clinic. No, yeah, that's amazing. No, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I just think that first doctor was just not really like um I want it. Yeah, no idea. No idea.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

I don't know who would suggest that keepers. Um okay, so so you do your medications for the mock. So is your uh did you get to stay local for your mock? Or did you have to fly out?

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Uh no, I had to fly back out to LA. Okay, okay. Which was nice. I got to go back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

The nice sunny weather.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

I went back by myself. Okay. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Okay. And then after that, you got to go, you got like the AOK to go forward with transfer.

Choosing An Agency And Getting Matched

SPEAKER_03 25:29

Yes. So the mock cycle went great. Um, my lining was good, everything checked out. So we kept the same protocol um after I got my cycle. So it wasn't until May, uh, end of May, we started the cycle or the the meds again. And transfer was on June 2nd. And are you giving yourself your own shots or is your husband helping? So in the beginning, I wanted to give my own shots. I wanted just myself. Um and I did for a while. Good for you. But the the pio shots are just they're they're hard to get in the right spot. Yeah. And I just could never get it in straight and it would hurt and bleed. And so I asked my husband to do it finally, and he did it and I felt nothing. I'm like, wow, okay. Awesome. Well then you're gonna continue to do. But um, but since with the time difference, my doctor wanted me to do them at 6 a.m. Eastern time, which or Pacific time. So Eastern time that's nine.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Nine.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

9 a.m. Oh, that's right. I'm a teacher, so like I'm already at work with my students. Yeah. Um, I'm a high school special ed teacher. Um, I teach students with autism spectrum disorder. Oh, so uh my classroom is like self-contained. Um, I have six students. There's actually four autism classrooms in my school. Um, and each classroom has one teacher and two paraprofessionals that help. Okay. So we have a lot of uh a lot of coworkers, but we're all very close. Um, and one of my coworkers, um, him and his wife went through IVF twice for their daughters. Oh, so he was a pro at the shots. So I was like, well, if you don't mind, can you do my shots or that is so fun? Shout out, shout out to Greg, yeah. Wow. And I was like, Can you ask your wife, is that okay? Yeah, and I asked my husband, we're all like, you know, we're all we're all adults here. Yeah. Sweet. Oh my gosh. So he gave me my shots every morning at 9 a.m. in the in a classroom.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

That is so I've never heard that before. Where co-workers got involved. This is a first. That is very cool. Co-workers got involved. They were yeah, they were big. It takes a village. It died. Yep. Wow, there it is. That's so interesting. I I guess I could understand why they want you to do it western time because transferring western time. Right. But like also, couldn't we just like bump up the transfer?

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Like, do it in front time. Probably, but like I don't want to mess anything up because it's a girl embryo, and I'm gonna do it exactly at the time that I'm supposed to.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Oh no, 100%. I'm just like, oh funny. Like everything is real scientific here, like down to the real. How crazy. So you did your husband come with you for the transfer? He did, yes. Okay, okay. And then do you have to do bed rest?

SPEAKER_03 28:41

Or is it just the day of the transfer and you go? He told me not to like you know, do a lot of walking or not to do anything like crazy. Um so we just took it easy. We just got dinner back at my um IP's house and hung out there for the day.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Oh, nice. Did they get to be in the room for transfer?

SPEAKER_03 29:02

Yes. So just one. Oh. Um was it mama? Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

What was it was it mama? The mom?

SPEAKER_03 29:11

Oh, I did it for um for for two guys. You did yay!

SPEAKER_02 29:15

I figured. I I couldn't quite figure it out, and I was like, okay, okay. Oh god, that's hard. So who got to pick? So how did they pick up?

SPEAKER_03 29:23

Well, so that was that's that's a good point. So um one of my IFs, it was his sperm. So then the other um one was able to come in the transfer room. There, okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

So they knew who had a special moment. They knew who whose DNA was going to create this baby.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

So sometimes they spin it and they don't know, you know. Right. Yeah, they knew. Oh wow. Oh, that's cool. Oh, how fun. Can I ask, was that on your wish list? Was for a same-sex couple, or you yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 29:55

Okay, yeah, I actually only wanted a same-sex couple. Me too. I only did it for three same sex. I know, yeah. I I mean, yeah, for personal reasons, I'm sure you guys feel the same way. Um, but like for me, I I felt like I for a heterosexual couple, surrogacy is like their last option. Like they had to go through years and years of struggle and heartbreak and loss. And I just don't think I could have handled that pressure, all those emotions. I just wanted to like, you know, enjoy every little moment and be so happy. And it's like your first baby and enjoy all those moments. And nothing wrong with that, you know. With the gay couple, the to have a biological child, that like is the only route. Like, I'm giving them something that otherwise they wouldn't be able to do, you know.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

100%. That's right. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Yeah, I've done it for both. I've I've done it for same-sex, um, a heterosexual couple, which you know, we all know that went, but that's just that journey. And then um a single mom, which I really, really never, ever, ever in a majillion years would have thought, oh, I'm gonna do this for another woman. Like, no way. And it was it's it's the journey that crushed me because it's the journey I wanted the most. The most. So but it's but it's so it is true though, with the with the same-sex uh couples, they were just like, Okay, you're great today, see you later. And I was like, cool, cool. They're like, you know things. You're a girl, you you do the things exactly. They trusted me completely, yes. Yes, exactly. And that's huge. It's a different, it's a different I for me, I personally felt the different level of trust, like right away. Like there was just like boom, I do trust you automatically. Whereas the heterosexual couple, it was like we gotta kind of like warm up to it, which I completely understand because there is I get it too, yeah. Yeah, because of the journey, absolutely how they got there. Yeah, definitely was easy breezy for my for my two same sex, and they lived international.

SPEAKER_03 31:59

Same, yeah, they trusted me completely, which is so great.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

So so and so when you transfer, is your children three and five? 2025. Yes. Yes, they were, yes. Oh, okay. And do they know what mom's doing?

SPEAKER_03 32:18

Yes. Um, so I talked to them before you know transfer even started. Um, right when I signed up, I got the kangaroo pouch book. Oh yeah, yeah. Um, I don't know if you guys are familiar with that one. We know that one. Yes. Yep. Purple book with the kangaroo.

unknown 32:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

Um yes. So I read that one and then gave like the uh analogy of, you know, if your neighbors were trying to bake cookies and their oven broke, they're gonna come to your house, like to our house, and we're gonna they can use our oven, but we're not gonna eat those cookies, they're not our cookies, they gotta go back. Um and my daughter, like she understood, which was great. Yeah. Um, and they were involved in the whole process. They watched Travis give me the meds in the morning, like the shots. Um, they were there, they were my little sterilizers. They'd wipe my butt cheek and then wipe it afterwards and give me a little band-aid. So they were involved from the very the very beginning.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

That's so sweet. And your did they ever did they get to meet the couple before baby was born? Yeah, a handful of times. Oh, cool. So they came to see you. Okay, so let's get into that. Yeah, we can get into that. You have transfer, it's uh it's a yay, clearly. Yes, it stuck. Yeah, she stuck first time. Did you get to tell them it was a yay, or did the clinic do that?

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Yeah, I did. Yay!

SPEAKER_02 33:48

I love what that's a thing.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

Did you do it a fun way? Uh so I I told them that I was gonna take some tests and um that after the five-day mark that I would let them know if they wanted to know. Okay, and of course they did.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:05

So it was so hard with the time difference because I found out three hours before they were awake. Oh my god. And so I'm just like sitting here waiting, and I'm like, text me when you wake up. Um, and of course, they they called, and I was at gymnastics with my son because it was in the morning on a Saturday, and I was like, I'm sorry. And then so when we got home, then we called and I showed the the positive, and we were all crying, and it was amazing.

Clinic Travel Embryos And Med Protocol

SPEAKER_02 34:32

So sweet. Oh my gosh, that's so awesome. Love it. So, how does your journey go? Like, how is your first trimester? Is it kind of what you thought it would be because of your two personal pregnancies, or is this like different? Are you sick? Or not sick?

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Yeah, um, it was it was an easy pregnancy. Um and luckily, um, since transfer was in June, it was summer, so I was off work for the first trimester. Oh, great. So that was perfect. Yeah, like perfect because I was so my fatigue was probably the worst this pregnancy than my other two. Yeah. I don't know if maybe that's because I'm older, but I think that had some something to do with it too. That's true. That's true. So I was definitely more fatigued um with this one. Yeah. But other than that, first trimester was great. Um, they flew here for the 12-week ultrasound.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

Um, so they got to see their little girl up on the big screen for the first time. That was oh, did they lose it? Did they just lose it? Yeah, and especially because her hand's just like this in the ultrasound. And like she was basically waving to them. It was the cutest thing. Oh my god, adorable.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

That's so fun. And is so far as the is like the journey kind of what you imagined?

SPEAKER_03 35:51

Yeah, yeah. So cool. Yeah, I mean, I didn't imagine us to get that close, like, but we we did. Yeah, and then they they even flew, they flew my family out to the baby shower. Oh my gosh, no way, yeah. My whole family got to go to the baby shower.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

That is so cool. I'm sorry, that's sex males. That's awesome. Okay, how how did you feel like being there and like were people like were people just in awe of you? Or like, did you feel like awkward? Like, did you feel like Queen B? I don't know. How many months are you when you there's this baby shower? I was very nervous. What I would be how many months are you with this baby shower? Because I know like third trimester. It was 20 weeks. Okay, okay. They did it, they did it early. Oh, they did it earlier. She can't be there. Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

Okay, yeah. And we actually did it in Atlanta, Georgia. It's where one of my IF's uh moms live. Moms live. So it was like their childhood home. So I went to his childhood home. Are you so cool? This is magical. I can't. It's magical. How's it? So I got to meet his parents. Um, yeah, met his parents, and then met his siblings, and their kids were there. Um, their best friends, their neighbors. Um I thought I was gonna be like the center of attention, but I wasn't. Like it was very like normal. We felt very comfortable. My kids even felt comfortable, which says a lot because they're very like reserved, shy kids. Um, but they they bonded with my IPs like right off the bat. They bonded with the parents, like they felt so comfortable. They're just great people. That's um volumes for them. Yeah, that's so then I wasn't really nervous anymore.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

Oh, good for you.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

And everyone was just, you know, asking me like why. Yeah. Um, some actually didn't know that it wasn't my egg, some actually thought it was my egg. Oh, sure. Oh no, it's not yeah, right? So I don't know if it they just didn't like share every detail with everybody there. There were like 50 people there, you know. Yeah, and that's a fair moment where I had to say like no.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

And like this is the first time.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

It is, it is.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

How funny it is.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

I love it that they included you in the and the family.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

That that yeah, it was definitely one of the most memorable moments of the whole journey. Yeah, awesome.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

That's all right.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

Okay, so that's oh, sorry, go ahead. Yep, so then after that, the next week was actually the anatomy scan. So they flew to me the next week. So we got to see them like back to back, which was great. Yeah, and they actually stayed at our house that time. Oh so they stayed, yep, they stayed with us. Um, so that was even better. So cool. Um, my kids are obsessed with them.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Oh, I love them.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

And they just spoil them every time they come over, they're always giving them gifts and playing with them, and they're just such sweet, sweet guys.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

That's the right way to do it. That's I mean, I'm not gonna say to spoil them, but it's the right way to do it. Include the whole family.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Include the whole family. They definitely did that. Gosh, um great. Yeah, and anatomy scan was great. Like, she's she's growing, she's healthy. Um my my OB, he didn't really like I know I'm his patient, and that was one of the hard things I think for this whole journey was to like tell people, like reminding all the doctors, like, I'm a surrogate, it's not my baby. If you have questions, like here's their parent, like you need to ask the parents.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

Um, and he didn't do that, he kind of like ignored them and didn't really say hi, asked me all the questions, and I was just like it was really it wasn't a great time. Yeah, that's awesome. Um, and I felt really bad because they flew all the way here. They were looking forward to having these cool pictures and announcing it on their social media of like what they were doing, you know. Yeah, and they didn't end up getting that. The pictures were okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

Oh that makes me sad. Yeah, that makes that.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

I don't like sad. Yeah, yeah. So I was I was yeah, it was disappointing. Um but I mean she's healthy, yeah, all good there. Is that the OB who takes you through to the end? Then for Christmas, oh is that the OB that takes you through to the end, or is there like a um I actually there's a few doctors in my at my uh practice or whatever. Um so I ended up I didn't see him again. Okay, good, good.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

That's what I was gonna hope happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

Yes, yes. So I did not have him again. Um so then for Christmas, um, I went and did a um elective 3D ultrasound scan for them for Christmas since they didn't get their good pictures, so I surprised them with that. Um that was awesome. They called me bawling their eyes out. They were so happy. Oh my god. So sweet.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

I did that with for each of my couples too. That's why I was gonna ask. Did you? Yeah, because my my well, two of my couples, because they lived um internationally, so like they couldn't wait. And I was like, this will be so fun. So oh, I bet they just absolutely adored that.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Yeah, they did, they did, and like my whole family went to the ultrasound too. Like my kids were there, they got to see the baby, and it was great. It was great. So cool. That is um that's December. So yeah, then after that, we didn't see them until it was time for baby to come. How soon do they come? Like how many weeks prior to? So they rented a Airbnb for a month.

unknown 41:53

Oh, okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

So they arrived two weeks before the due date. Okay. We all were hoping she was gonna come early. Yeah. Um, but she didn't. She had other plans for time to spend together, you know. Gotta look at it. But in hindsight, we were all like, this is actually the best scenario. Um, because they actually had a lot of family come to visit during those two weeks before the due date. Oh. So I got to meet um the other entitled father's mom and his sister. Oh, so fun.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

So sweet.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

That's really cool. And they have two kids. So they all came to my house. Um, and like our kids were all playing, and we spent the day together. Um, so that was at that point I met like almost everyone in their family. It was really, really special. And this is all this bonus stuff that you don't realize you're gonna get surrogate, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:52

No, you don't. They're just like enveloping you in this huge hug.

Transfer Day And Early Pregnancy Milestones

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Yeah, but in this case, it sounds like it's gonna last your lifetime. Like they sound like you're you guys are keepers, like everybody's like keeping together. It's that's what this sounds like. But that's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

So does she come late or she comes one day late? Um, but I asked to be induced. Okay, okay. I was induced with both my keepers um at 39 weeks at around that time. Okay, I don't really like to go past 40 weeks. I think the babies get like too big and complications happen, and I'm like, I'm ready. Babies, like, you know, they're cooking, they're good. Yeah, let's just get some Potosin and get this show going. You're no stranger to Potosin, and you're like, I know what it's gonna do to me. My body can handle it. Great. Um, so I'm like, I'm fine, let's just get induced. So we went in um at like 7 a.m. The guys met me there. Uh, we all walked in the room together, they stayed with me the whole time. Sweet, we love it. Um Yeah, and then got Pitocin. Um I ended up dilating from five centimeters to eight in like 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

She was ready.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

I had an epidural, so I didn't feel a thing. Okay. Um wow. So we were all just chilling. Uh we were just one of one of the guys was reading like a little parenting book out loud, and we were all talking about the newborn phase and just having fun. Um, and then uh the doctor came in and was like, all right, like we're ready to push. Um and the guys actually made a a playlist. Oh, and they really wanted to know like what song she was gonna come out to. Oh my god. I love this story. I can't.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

This is really, really cute. This will be her her forever song. What song did she come out to? Did she come out to Isn't she lovely by Stevie Wonder?

SPEAKER_03 44:58

Like, I can't. She came out to so it was funny. Like, we got to put on songs too. Like, I got to put in like some of my favorite songs, and there were probably like 50 songs on here. Okay. I actually don't know the song, like, I personally don't know the song that she came out to. It was one of the dad's favorite song, though. Like that was like his favorite song.

unknown 45:19

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 45:20

And then when she came out after three pushes, I mean literally three pushes. Wow, she was here. Jesus. And she was placed on me first, um, so they could like clean her up and he could cut the cord. So when she was placed on me, my favorite song started playing. Oh wait. And I was like, oh my god, we were all like looking at each other, like, how cool is that? Very cool. And then um, the other dad, he was ready for skin to skin. So once the other dad cut the cord, she went right to him for skin to skin, and his favorite song started playing. No joke, back to back to back. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

That's wild.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

This little girl is like a little fairy wizard. She is, she's perfect. Oh my god. It was insane.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

How long was your labor, Taylor? We talk about that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

Yeah, what was that? How long was the labor? You said 7 a.m. You go in. When does she when's she born? Uh 520.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Girl, I envy you. What's the dream? And you're induced. Wow. Wow. Powered to you. Dreams. Oh my god. Yeah. So they got their own room, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

So then we each got our own rooms. They're right next to each other. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

We asked for that. Um, yeah, and I pumped for them in the hospital. Um, so they got colostrum for her.

unknown 46:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:52

She passed all of her tests, like with flying collars. She was so healthy.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Did your kiddos get to come to the hospital and meet her? Or did like did that happen at like the Airbnb before they left?

SPEAKER_03 47:07

Um, so my mom brought my kids to the hospital and I got to see her in the hospital, uh, which was so nice. That's really cool.

unknown 47:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

Because they need that too. They do. They just need the clo not the closure, but just the the end of it. Like it's in the belly, now it's out, like the baby's out. You gotta see it. Gotta gotta do it. Wow. That is that's magical. I can't.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

So you do you all get out at the same time or do they have to stay longer because of her?

SPEAKER_03 47:37

Um I I was out the next day. Um I didn't really have any complications. Um, I didn't even tear, so um, I wasn't really losing a lot of blood or anything. So she was like, oh, you're kind of free to go. So I left the next day and then they stayed an extra day and then they came home because she had to get um some extra tests done just because they're flying her and like four days later. Yeah. Oh, okay. So they needed like some more tests done and for the doctor to like sign off that she's okay to fly.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

So sweet.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

Um I'm I'm just curious. Oh, go ahead. Uh so they were still here for like four days after she was born. Okay. So I still saw them every day. Um, then they came to our house on their way to the airport, and so my daughter got to hold a little baby row. Um, yeah, so she was able to hold her, and that was really, really precious.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

How sweet. Were they just natural parents? Yeah, like yeah, they were. They seem like it just they just fit right in.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Like, wow. Yeah, she was also a very chill baby. Oh, that's I mean, her cry was even like so soft. Um, she had no issues with bottle feeding and sleeping. Like they were like, she's perfect, so and she's been that way ever since. She's passed all of her tests, she's such such a chill baby.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

And she did okay on the flight, on the flight back. That's like you know, six hours. Yeah, good for her.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Yeah, and they're just like in their newborn phase. This baby's what one month old?

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Today, one month today. Oh my gosh. The 19th, February 19th, how are they doing? Are they sleep deprived, but they're good? Um, they have a night nurse for one month. Yes, I would too. If I could, I would.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

Power to them. Yes, I love it. So get a night nurse. I mean, that's the hard that's the hard part.

SPEAKER_03 49:43

That is the hard part. And so, yeah, they're able to wake up every morning and you know, be refreshed, have that energy to take care of a newborn. And they're texting me at like five in the morning. I'm like, well, like good morning. Oh cute.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

So it sounds like it's everything you wanted it to be, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 50:03

And more.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Like dreams, everything and more. Yeah, and more. Seriously, a dream. Like I it was perfect. That's so cool.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Are you thinking I gotta do this again? I know.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Like, you know, I I definitely can understand why Circus do it again and again. Sure. Um because even when I got to hold her, like right after delivery and 15 other times after that, yeah. Um, like I didn't feel anything. Like I felt nothing holding her, but that felt right at the same time. Right. Um but then like I just couldn't stop looking at them. Like I was just catching myself constantly staring at them. Like, look what I just did. Like it's a very, very powerful feeling.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

Like it's it's addictive. It can be very we talk about it a lot. It can be I get it, I get it.

Baby Shower Family Bond And Ultrasounds

SPEAKER_03 50:59

Um, but I was doing it more for just like my closure, and I definitely got that. Did you get it?

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Good for you. I did.

SPEAKER_03 51:07

Yeah, I enjoyed every moment of it. It was perfect. So I will probably won't do it again um unless my IPs want a sibling, another one. Because I will not, I will not be able to say no to them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Oh, for sure. And like the likelihood, even if you wanted to do it again, like right, like the likelihood of finding this a journey that stands up to this.

SPEAKER_00 51:34

This is like poster child journey for surrogacy.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

Sorry, but again, this is yeah. Right. So, like you can't get better than there's no way.

SPEAKER_03 51:41

I'm not gonna have that again. Like, there's just no way.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Yeah, there's just unless you have it with them, right? Right. And I'm gonna say it again. What a testament to your IPs for being that incredible of two human beings. Yeah, they are. I I don't even know them and I'm in love with them. Yeah, like seriously. They were just in it to for the right. Well, it was never transactional for them, they were in it for every reason and every part of what surrogacy literally is. Like that is it's and yeah, Taylor was too. I just exactly.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

And that's what we both wanted. We both were upfront about that, and we're like, we want to be as close as we possibly can. And that's what we want.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

I am so happy for all of you. I know. So I'm getting like the little chili bumps because I just you don't you hear good stories, yeah, but you don't hear these phenomenal, magical, wonderful, made in the stars stories. And lucky you to get to treasure that for the rest of your life. That's and share it with us because seriously, it can happen.

SPEAKER_03 52:46

That's connected that way. It can. I mean, I had no idea what I was doing going into this. I don't know anyone who was a surrogate. I had no idea. Yeah, and look at your trusted the process and it it all worked out.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

That's the word, Taylor. Trusted the process, yeah, I did. And you were upfront about what you needed and what you were what you wanted and why you were doing it, and they were upfront too.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

This is like so what a feel-good story is a feel-good for a solid hour after this. Yeah, thank you for sharing all of that. That's this is really awesome. It really do you have advice for any like first-time surrogates out there?

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Um, my advice, obviously, do your research, but honestly, I've had a few people reach out um since all this because I did share my my journey on my social media. Yeah, and I had some people reach out and be like, Oh, I always thought about this. Like, what do you like advise me to do? And I honestly tell them about your podcast.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Oh, you're so sweet.

SPEAKER_03 53:56

Because it's incredibly helpful, informative. I learned everything.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

That's very sweet. Like, that's very sweet. No, seriously. I mean, we got into this literally never ever. We say it all the time. We got into this literally just being two people. I told my mom, I'm like, I'm going through mental trauma with this last journey. We gotta talk it out. Let's just throw it out there. And then people were like, we want to share our stories, and to think that we would be here like going on fire here going on like five well, season six, and like how all of these stories, everybody trusts us to come share them and want to have huge information out there and bring education and like it this podcast wouldn't exist without everybody, so it's a village, right? Yeah, say it again, huge village, it is yeah. This is this is so fun because I'm just like I am on cloud nine right now, and I didn't even need the journey. I need a fucking journey. Totally living in a jealousy bubble over here. That's how I feel. God, that's so awesome. It really is. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 55:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

I don't know if they're gonna watch this, but whoever you are, congratulations and you seriously.

SPEAKER_03 55:12

I told them, yeah, they're excited to listen.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

That's so sweet.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Oh my gosh. Well, congratulations to everyone, congratulations to you, your family, the IPs, the little baby girl who just knew what songs to come out to for each individual. That's amazing. She's like, I got all three of you down. I know you people. Yeah, for real. Yeah, that was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Anything we missed that you want to hit on? Anything that we didn't, because sometimes we jump. We're sorry, but that's what we do.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Not sometimes all the time.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

All the time, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 55:44

Um, really. Um, I know you guys always ask if like my children were negli negative. Yeah, that's a great one. But it seems like they were pretty good. Well, obviously, I already talked about it. Definitely not. No, they gained two uncles. Yeah, yeah, absolutely not. Is that what they call them? Oh, yeah, I yeah. So I was given the name Aunt Taylor, which was so sweet. Um, yeah, and they they wrote us cards afterwards. They um they even sent us gift cards to Disneyland to come visit them. Gosh, how nice. So we're gonna make that trip this year, so we're very excited to get back there and see them.

Induction Labor Playlist And Delivery Story

SPEAKER_02 56:25

These IPs, man, we would love to hear their side of it. Like my mom, love. She's like, I'm gonna pitch it. She's like, Because honestly, to educate more IPs, these guys seem phenomenal. They do run a master's class. Yeah, all right. I'll stop posting. My gosh. Well, no, seriously, thank you, Taylor, and thank you for reaching out because like great. It yeah, this is like a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, even if it wasn't beautiful, but like thank you for being a beautiful story.

SPEAKER_03 56:55

Yeah, yeah, it was, and I just wanted to remember it, so it's nice that it's so like and it's gonna be here forever. Now I yeah, it's perfect. So fun, it's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

Well, congratulations, yeah. Awesome, awesome thing. A delight speaking with you. I hope we can talk with you more in the future.

SPEAKER_03 57:16

Yeah, same. I'll talk about anything, any topics you got. Perfect, love it.

SPEAKER_02 57:21

Well, then we'll reach out. Yeah, so much, Taylor. This was great. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 57:28

Thank you. Have a great night. Thanks. You too.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Bye-bye. Bye.

unknown 57:36

That was great.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

Like, what? Magical. That's all I have to do. It's just magical. It's just so pretty. Like it's just so all the agencies in the world and all the intended parances in the world, those paths align. Right. No, it can happen, it happens. I'm not I I it's beautiful. Obviously, it happens. Like that was the journey that I dreamt of because of the journey I saw this whole time. I'm like, it's the driplet's journey all over again. Like, because it's just you know, and and you did how many journeys? You did three journeys, and you got that once. I got one. I did, I guess you could say four journeys, and I got that one and a half times, like you know, or so I feel like snow guarantee. Yeah, so thrilled, thrilled for all of them. Oh yeah, so thrilled. Oh my gosh. And she's given the name of aunt, and her kids get to call the IPs uncles.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

Like, if that's not a bond in a family, uh boom, it is.

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They all they all were upfront, honest. They knew they knew what they want, they each side knew what they wanted out of it, and then they went for it, and they were like, No, we're gonna all gonna jump in. Yeah, committed out. Yep, yeah. And the fact that they invited her and the whole family to the baby shower, I'm not sure. Oh I couldn't be more jealous of this journey. It's just so sweet. I could watch this on a movie. This is the movies that they should make. Like that's cute. Come on, Hallmark. Aye, aye, aye. But um, no, thank you, Taylor. This is beautiful. I'm gonna be on a high the rest of the night. We told you that. Um so if anybody has any questions or stories they would like to share, please feel free to reach out to us on Instagram at stop period sit period surrogate or at our email at stop periodsitperiod surrogate at gmail.com. And this has been another episode of Stop Sit Surrogate with Kennedy and Ellen. Thank you. Thanks for listening. Before we wrap up, a huge thank you to our sponsor, U.S. Surrogacy. Their support helps us continue to share real stories, educate our community, and connect families through the incredible journey of surrogacy. Thanks so much for tuning in to Stopsit Surrogate, where every story matters and every journey is worth sharing. We'll see you next time.

Postpartum Feelings Advice And Ways To Connect

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