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Breaking The Taboo Of Infertility

Kenedi & Ellen Smith Season 6 Episode 16

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Infertility gets labeled “medical” and quietly filed away, but it rarely stays contained. It shows up in your relationship, your finances, your body image, your faith, your friendships, and the way you picture the future. We sit down with relationships author Andrea Surtash, the founder of Pregnantish, to talk about what happens when the old script “first comes love, then baby” stops working and you still want a family more than anything.

Andrea shares how she pitched infertility stories to major TV producers and kept hearing the same response: it’s too niche. So she built her own platform, anchored in fact-checked fertility education and premium storytelling, and a single vulnerable Facebook post about IVF shots, bruises, and heartbreak sparked the kind of viral response that proved the audience was always there. We unpack why telling the truth out loud helps people find care, build community, and stop feeling like they’re in a secret society.

We also connect the dots to gestational surrogacy and the stigma that intended parents and surrogates fight every day, including the harmful “transactional” narrative that ignores what surrogacy really looks like in healthy, ethical arrangements. Then Andrea introduces the World Fertility Project, a global movement inviting people to take a free pledge to break the taboo of infertility, plus Fertility Curious, live events designed for anyone who wants fertility testing and reproductive health info before they’re in crisis.

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_01

Welcome. We are a mother-daughter podcast about all things surrogacy. Together, we have brought eight beautiful babies into this world. And we would like to share through education and knowledge about surrogacy with those who want to educate themselves on the topic. This is Stop Sit Surrogate. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Stop Sit Surrogate with Kennedy and Ellen. Hi everyone. We are joined today by a wonderful guest. I'm so excited for her to introduce herself. So could you please take it away?

SPEAKER_02

Sure. Hi, I'm happy to be here. It's Andrea Surtash. I'm a relationships author and I'm the founder of Pregnant Ish, which uh was the first media channel uh to help people navigate infertility and fertility treatments. We're soon to celebrate our 10-year anniversary. Congratulations. That's amazing. Yeah, it's like my first baby.

SPEAKER_00

Oh so sweet.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Love it. So sweet. I love that. That wow. Yeah, yeah. I've seen you guys all over Instagram and stuff. I didn't know it was 10 years though. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's it is amazing because when we went live, there was very little awareness and people talking openly. And I was on national TV in early 2017 saying I'm infertile when few people were doing that. So I know deeply how how different the landscape was a decade ago. Um, but uh I'm glad you you guys have seen us. I'm glad we've connected this way because the more awareness, the better. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, 100%. So okay, because I so I know I would say the baseline of Pregnant-Ish, right? Because I know you guys from Instagram. So what what is the mission? What are what are you guys doing other than obviously education, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, it's a great question. And I think like there's so much uh Instagram's our largest channel at Pregnant-Ish, but we do uh do many other things offline and in the community to amplify the topic and educate. And I believe that uh the storytelling is the pathway this community has to marketplace to the services and products to help them

Why Pregnantish Exists

SPEAKER_02

build families. When we went live, so let's take us back to early 2016. I was undergoing fertility treatments and I was at the time on a lot of TV shows, Good Morning America Today Show, others as a relationships expert and author, sharing relationship trends. And I would go to the producers at that time while I was secretly struggling to conceive, although I was diagnosed at 14 years old with endometriosis and told I'd have probable infertility and issues. Yeah, I was strangely lucky as a teenager to be told that information. But but nevertheless, I couldn't have ever imagined uh how difficult this process would be. And um, prior to launching Pregnant-ish, I hosted TV shows about love and relationships. I wrote books for major broadcasts, uh, you know, I was uh hosting for the Oprah Network and Discovery, and I was my publisher was Random House. So I was really out there in the media um helping people navigate relationships and uh frustrated that what I saw as the biggest, most undercovered relationship chapter of our time, which I always say is when sex doesn't make baby and you want a baby.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Whether you're single or you know, in the LGBT community or you're infertile, whatever the case may be. I saw that in 2015-16 while I was struggling as the biggest, most underserved relationship chapter of our time. First comes love, then baby, then baby, you know, this comes love, then marriage and baby carriages. I knew was an outdated narrative for so many people. So when we went live, our mission was very simply to amplify a topic of needing help to build a or you know, expand or build your family through premium content and storytelling. I was, like I said, a published author. I knew content very well. And I knew from being on TV and being on book tours and all of that that storytelling can change the world. And we hired right away, we we we recorded the Welcome to Pregnant video in NBC Studios, where I'd previously hosted a dating show. Um, we we did the welcome video. I recorded it in October 2016. I hired writers, amazing writers who were New York Times bestselling authors. And Gloria Fallon, Jimmy Fallon's sister, wrote for us. And I'm telling you, like, I was like, premium content is what this audience needs. Because in 20, you have to imagine, 2015-16, it was all baby desk blogs and it was like medical sites and it was parenting sites um covering this content. But there was no dedicated channel to an audience of singles couples LGBT, everything when we serve at Pregnantish, who wanted to find their people, their community. So we became the first channel in that category. And and our premise then is our premise today, which is that quality content, fact-checked information, premium storytelling will help people get the products and services they need to build their families. We've since now reached over a billion globally with our content. We reach over a million a month on our channel. And we um we published one of the largest studies on patient retention, and it was covered in human reproduction, which is a science journal. So we've done a lot more than Instagram, but it's still our biggest channel. But I know that was a long answer to your short question.

SPEAKER_01

That's a very great detail.

Media Rejection And A Bigger Point

SPEAKER_00

Hey, you you had touched on when you were on TV shows and like Good Morning America, and you you went ahead and like approached producers. We kind of what what happened there? Did you approach them about like talking about infertility, making it more known?

SPEAKER_02

And that's a great question. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the short answer for that is yes. And guess what? I was told every time I was told, yeah, that's kind of niche. Or or we had Dr. So-and-so on in April to talk for National Infertility Awareness Week. And what I would say to the producers, and they're great producers, yeah, I would say to them, first of all, and then they pull me aside, by the way, and say, I'm going through IVF. I'm like, well, it's not if you're going through it. Right. But what I said to them at the time was we were we were truly the first channel to say out loud this is a relationship issue, not just a medical one. I said it it affects relationships in every level. Um, the relationship you have with if you have a partner, your partner, your community, your workplace, and most importantly, and more, but most importantly, your body and your senses. We also said on national TV in early 2017, this uh chapter of life affects you financially, spiritually, relationally. We were using language, by the way, that a lot of people are using now to describe this topic. But it I have to imagine a decade ago, no one was using that language. So it was taboo. Yeah. Really new and unusual then. And it's kind of hard to uh, you know, I I love that the conversation, I'm not saying it's all because of us by any stretch, because people, you guys and more are amplifying this in beautiful ways, but uh, it really was a different landscape 10 years ago. Oh gosh, yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and it's amazing how far it's come. I say that all the time. It's amazing because you're talking 10 years, which seems like a long time, but in the reality of it, it's short. It's and and it's really widespread now, really well known. People are talking all the time about this. Yeah. Wow, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's fascinating. And so okay, so if I'm correct, you started pregnant-ish kind of based off of your fertility journey. And right. So I guess my question would be like how so you went to the producers and you did all this. So then what was the next step? Like, was it was it a social media launch because you know the you know, producers weren't really like picking up?

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's funny. So once I was rejected a lot, great things come from rejection sometimes if you create an opportunity, right? Yep. So I basically was like, you know what, producers, and I'm in the producers' guild, I'm a producer too. Yeah. But if you're not greenlighting it on the media that you run, I'll create my own media and run these stories. And so I started building the prototype in 2016, and we incorporated, we trademarked all of that, the name pregnant-ish, because I truly felt pregnant-ish with every embryo transfer for um like I'm not pregnant, but I have an embryo in me. And that's right, you know, and and funnily enough, with surrogacy, you're truly pregnant-ish when you're an intended parent. But um, I I basically uh launched with a very vulnerable Facebook post.

The Viral Launch That Forced Day One

SPEAKER_02

And so what happened was in January 2017, we weren't ready to go live. We were gonna go live in April 2017 with uh a live event in New York with great voices. Um, and uh we were really excited for that, and we were soft launching in early 2017 to kind of learn what we needed. You know how it is with the soft launch. We're like not gonna be fully public. But what I did was I went on my Facebook, which is private, and I said, hi everyone, um, it's a new year, it's 2017, and I want to share that I'm creating something that I've craved, which is a a platform with really good fact-checked premium content. Um, you know, I've created this thing out of like what I've been through, and it was very vulnerable. I said, you know, those of you I've don't know that for a few years now my drawers look like I'm a drug addict. Um my uh, you know, I wear oversized glasses every week at the clinic because I cry on the way home. Um, my my stomach, you could play checkers on because it's so bruised. But truly, my my heart that is more bruised. And I'm launching this thing that I needed, and it's for anyone who needs help to build a family. You can be single, you could be freezing your eggs, you could be in the LGBTQ community, whoever you are, you could be navigating cancer, you could be infertile like me, but I'm launching something I've craved, it's called pregnant-ish. And my last line of my Facebook post said, So, you know, well, you've seen me on book tours and on TV, and that's really sexy and great. What you don't know is what I've been going through behind the scenes, so don't judge a Facebook by its cover. And I I pressed publish and it went super viral. I bet. Uh, and actually I cried when I pressed pub post. Oh, but what happened was uh a lot of people said, please make this public. This is really important. And I'm like, but we haven't launched yet. They're like, it doesn't matter, just make it public. So I made it public, and within days, uh, New York magazine, the New York Times, uh all these the Toronto Star, like I can't even tell you how much Bravo, how much media, because you know, I'm in the media, so they were said, Can we have you on to talk about this? And before I knew it, we had a platform right away before we were ready. Wow. But there was clear market matching, market need. Forbes did an article on me that this this woman is is trying to change the conversation. Trust put me on the homepage of their Sunday paper saying this woman wants to break the taboo of infertility. And we found an audience, and that's when we launched Instagram and what was then Twitter and Facebook. Um, but Instagram became our our main kind of social channel back in early 2017. And we we were very lucky. I had no PR agency, it was just pure earned media, but it was because it was needed, like it didn't surprise me that all these producers had told me this is niche and not needed, and then the minute we went live, right booked for all this media meant to be meant to be yeah, it was and then we we we threw a party to launch the fight. Oh because I was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_03

I should invite all these editors, yeah, yeah, take advantage of that.

SPEAKER_02

Then we did that, yeah. So end of January, we had major press come out to uh let like I think Pete Peak of Pregnantish. We had a great video that I had shot at NBC Studios. It wasn't an NBC production, but yeah, I was 30 Rock where I had hosted this dating digital dating show in what's now Jimmy Fallon Studio. It's so weird how that is weird. So like I had all these amazing media connections. So we we basically launched uh, but we were one of the first platforms also to bring events out of the clinic. Um, I said ever host an event in a clinic. We spend too much time in clinics, and we would host, we hosted these amazing events in art galleries and wine bars and all out of the clinics, and we were doing things like in a way the fertility industry had never seen. Um and I think that's why it worked, honestly. But we became really um like omni-channel, this very buzzy marketing word, but we weren't just on Instagram, we were in live events, we had press parties, we then did research with the community, we um had a video series, we then launched the podcast in um 2019. So, you know, it a lot of different ways to reach this audience, which were too often in the shadows, as you guys know very well. Um, yeah. When

Surrogacy, Stigma, And Finding Resolve

SPEAKER_02

I went live on TV and media in early 2017, I think it's really important also to underscore that I did not have a resolution. So I was up on TV being like, hey guys, I'm infertile, no idea. I know I have fibroids and I had a myomectomy to, you know, take them out. I know I have endo, I have unexplained, I've been told I have beautiful embryos, I have no idea how I'm gonna meet my baby, but like I've launched this thing I've craved. Two years later later, I met my daughter through gestational surrogacy. So, of course, when you guys wrote to invite me on, I'm like, anyone surrogates are angels on earth, and I'm like, I'll do any anyone who's working in this field uh on that side. I I really think is doing great work. So, yeah, that's my story.

SPEAKER_00

So, what what I'm hearing, like you normalize this, right? Like you gave people a safe space and a place to come to get hope. Like that's what I'm hearing. Like you had all these wonderful connections and had it, and those connections served you so well to get this out there. Like this was meant to be 100% meant to be.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it feels like it. And I I would have slapped myself in the heart of my struggle if someone said it, you'll see later, it's meant to be. But I could truly tell you, even my first cousin who is my gestational surrogate, my gestational fun. Yeah, I had two drop out on me, two surrogates, yeah. Oh Canada, that's a whole other story. Yeah, um, you know, uh she she really saved the day, and I um also been in the media a lot trying to destigmatize surrogacy because you guys know all too well the myths and misconceptions over that chapter are massive. So we were we were amplifying uh donor conception and surrogacy 10 years ago as well. Um, and when and we faced a lot of hate, but I I was advocating in Albany for surrogacy to become legal in New York. So I was really um pioneer, pioneer because yeah, it's well, I mean, uh many, many people proceeded me, but but but I do think in terms of the storytelling and the media and the patient advocacy side of storytelling to drive this forward. Yeah, we were we were very much new. Uh part of our audience launched their own platforms years later.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I love I love that you it's storytelling because it is every single person has a unique story. It is, it's so oh, and it's heart wrenching. You just cry over some of these. That's why a lot of surrogates get into it. I know that's a whole nother thing, but um we just want to help. Yeah, we just want to help. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

You know, and I think like the the thing that I think and I always tell our audience is something that helped me running pregnantish when I didn't have a resolution was hearing all the paths to parenthood that I never heard about in year one that um really inspired me to say finally in year five, I don't know how it will happen, when it will happen, where I don't know any of that, but I know the what I will become a parent. I don't know if it will be my egg, my husband's sperm, or my uterus, but I will be a parent. In the end, it was my egg, my husband's sperm, and not my uterus. Okay, but I I declared that two years before I met my daughter. So, in a way that I was I was accountable to myself, yeah, I say it out loud, but it also was a message that was true. Like storytelling helped me as much as I think we helped others. Oh gosh, yes. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. I I think the most powerful thing these days is storytelling. Yeah, because you can learn so much from others and you're not all you find out that you're not alone. Right. That's a big thing.

SPEAKER_02

That's right. And when you I always say when you share a story, you get a story in this category. Yeah. So as as isolated as you feel, um, just sharing your story, you're gonna learn someone else who says me too. That that happened to me as well. Right. And that's where it's like a secret society, and we're trying to make it not a secret society with all the work we're doing, which I know we'll also get into the world fertility project, but that's really the why behind that.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Let's

World Fertility Project And The Pledge

SPEAKER_02

segue right into that. That's that's a good one. Yeah. Well, so the World Fertility Project is um a global movement to destigmatize this process. Um, we we learned we have a very beautiful global audience of pregnant-ish. The US is our number one audience, but it's followed by the UK, Canada, Australia. We have an audience in Portugal and Brazil and Asia and India and Africa and the Middle East. And it just started to become a wonderful thing to try to solve. Like we're we're obviously operating in English and we don't want to be so American-centric. This is a global issue. We you always hear it affects one and six, but that's just what's reported. So it affects more. And in in corners of the world where people really are highly, I mean, there's bigger stigma in in some of these countries. Yeah. Uh, what could we do? We started something with pregnant that wasn't done. What can we do now with the World Fertility Project in these corners of the world to unite us as one global community? Um, saying there's nothing shameful about admitting you want to love a child and grow a family. That's a beautiful thing to celebrate.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And there's nothing shameful about having a medical issue or an anatomical issue where you can't have a baby on without help. That's fine. So let's get it out of the shadows. We have a global, and I invite people to go to worldfertilityproject.com to take our free pledge to break the taboo of infertility. And we're trying to collect enough signatures to start creating real change in all these corners of the world. But in the meantime, we'll do what we do best, which is storytelling in the regions of the world we're working in, which is all regions of the world. Our um, our global campaign reached every and our survey that we did, a global survey reached every continent. Um, we did not get feedback from Antarctica. I felt bad until I realized people do not live there. Uh so like penguins can't really uh submit. Um, but we were truly reaching a lot of people, and the World Fertility Project produced the World Fertility Awards, which was an event we held at the Times in December to celebrate global change makers driving forward the future of fertility. So the World Fertility Project, the World Fertility Awards is like another baby as I expand me in pregnancy. Um, but all to break this this. I mean, why is there a taboo? I mean, you guys are in it, so you see this, like it shouldn't be taboo. It shouldn't.

SPEAKER_00

It shouldn't be. And like Said the stigma in other countries is even greater than it is here. I mean, women are not unfortunately not viewed as women here a lot of times. You know, it's they're subservient, they're you know, and yes, you're not allowed to talk about this, and absolutely is what it is, and it's it's very sad, and it's so great that you're breaking that ice to this world fertility project is amazing, absolutely amazing. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, we're just kind of in the beginning of it, but I do invite your audience since you said that this episode will likely be in June. Um, June 17th, we're doing a global our second year of a global digital campaign. And please join us. We'll share you guys on the world fertility project channel. Um rip assign. We invite you on June 17th. So rip a sign that says break the taboo in your native language and um join this this effort. Last year was so cool. If you go to the Instagram for World Fertility Project, you'll see in all languages people breaking the taboo. Um, and last year reached three million, and we're gonna go from there. So you give me goosebumps. Oh my god, phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01

I was a part of that last year. That was fun. You you what? I was a part of it last year. That was fun. Where you write it down, you crumble the paper and you throw it to the side.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I'm so glad you did that. Yeah, and you know, you guys know and how infantilized surrogates are. Um, like I just would love to know how you guys address that because the misconceptions around surrogacy and surrogates, we we are fighting that all the time, but I can only imagine with the work you guys are doing, that's something you face as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, a lot. It is it's it's yeah, go ahead. Yeah, well, we get it's transactional and you're just doing it for the money and this and that. And you know, come on.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's the it's it's always the uneducated, and it's and oftentimes it's really just kind of how unfortunately the media plays it, right? Because you'll only hear the really dramatic and horrible stories. You don't get the sunshine and rainbows of what surrogacy really is. You get the oh, these people did this and look at this. And so it's just it's really unfortunate. Um, but if you know where to go.

SPEAKER_02

That's why we're here too, is to try and change that. Yeah, exactly. And I think like uh when I've been, you know, I was in People magazine and GMA talking about surrogacy as an intended parent. Um, but yeah, which was great, but um I still we we there's so much awareness needed, so it's great you guys are doing that. Um but yeah, so the more voices, yeah, of course. I'm glad to join again. The WFP is growing and we're excited you guys will be part of it.

SPEAKER_00

And it's so cool because from all corners of the world people are watching each other, so it's pretty and social media has really launched all of that, it's been the platform for everything because when I started surrogacy, there was nothing like that was not nothing. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it was like 25 years ago I did it, and I have a set of triplets that are 24 from surrogacy for a family, and it's it's amazing to watch them grow and they're productive people, and it's lovely, it's just so cool.

SPEAKER_02

That's so cool, it is really cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, um, Andrea, I also want to ask. So, what

Fertility Curious And Speed Dating Doctors

SPEAKER_01

is something else that we had talked about on the side was your newest brand, which is fertility curious?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I know it's like oh, you're just doing it all. Yeah, no, I mean you guys probably get it. Um, my eyes are bigger than my schedule. There's so much work to do. And so what we've kind of leaned into, we we did a global survey with people who have that pain point of infertility, and we asked them what some of their what they wish they knew. I don't want to call it a regret because it's like not their fault because we get pregnant, right? Um, but uh what what do you wish you knew was a question. And more and more we heard the feedback. We wish we had the education, we wish we tested our levels, we wish we knew our reproductive bodies sooner. And so out of that data point, we created a brand we just trademarked called Fertility Curious. We've secretly called people FCs in our audience for 10 years. So what we've done is we've been like, oh, here's an FC, because some people on our channel are sniffing around, they've never walked into a clinic, they don't even know if they want to take a step like egg freezing, and they're still following us. And we started to realize that some of our content on pregnant-ish might be hard for them if we're talking about surrogacy or ectopic pregnancies or um donor conception. And you're 28 and you're like maybe wanting to freeze your eggs, you may not find your people really on that channel. Right. So we've we've like parsed it out with this fertility curious brand, which um has only started by way of live events, but they've been extremely popular. And we just held one the other day in Montreal where we um educate the audience to we just call curious. We say, doesn't mean you're taking a step, it doesn't mean you're freezing your eggs. It could mean that, but just get the education and information our audience at Pregnesh wishes they knew. And um, then we do this really fun thing at some of our events called speed dating with doctors. And it brings my background because you know I did this dating advice to a fun kind of format where at the end people who were shy to ask questions publicly, although every hand goes up with the women in the room, it's amazing. But they have a chance one-on-one to speak to people who have frozen their eggs, speak to doctors, speak to me for dating advice. We always dedicate the last 45 minutes of our event to the speed dating section. And we've just learned it really drives not that it's about business, it's about getting the care you need, but it drives business for our partners because um people leave empowered and inspired, which is the goal of Fertility Curious, not to be fearing, you're getting older, like that. So much of advertising is the way of the World Fertility Project, Pregnant and Fertility Curious, it's not about fear, it's about empowerment, it's about education, it's about community, it's about storytelling. And those things, when we elevate them and we work together, this becomes a beautiful chapter of life, not a scary one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. Are are those events free or is there a registration?

SPEAKER_02

Well, so they're mostly free. Um, what we do is we we transparently we have, I mean, usually like our Montreal event was the ticket price, was actually uh only so that people would actually show up, uh not just sign up for free and not show up for it themselves. Um, but we keep it really accessible. It was 20 Canadian, which is about 16 US. But actually the event had was worth over $200. Everyone gets a gift bag. Would they get dinner, they get drinks? Like we do these events and they sell out for good reason. But the next one that we're doing will be in the fall in New York City. We're gonna bring it to LA. You guys are in hotels to you. Um, and we we are gonna continue. We'll probably do Chicago coming up. Uh, we're we're doing Lisbon and London this summer. We're doing a Lisbon speed dating egg freezing event uh in July. So it's fun. So we'll continue. And that's you know, everything's connected to the World Fertility Project and Pregnantish, but you can see how they're a little different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. But it's all the same, they all have the same baseline, like they're all the same.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Where To Connect And Final Takeaways

SPEAKER_00

Where do the people get all that information? Because I know we're we're need to wrap it up. Where can they get all that? What's the best site to go to connect to?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I mean, for now, just go to pregnantish.com link to everything. Right. Uh, go to pregnantish on our Instagram and World Fertility Project on the Instagram. Uh to take the pledge, we would love that it's free and just to share your story, share your voice. We'd love to amplify it. Um, the more of us showing that this is not taboo, the better. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't agree more. Oh my gosh, you are fascinating. You you gave so much more information than I expected in 30 minutes. No more.

SPEAKER_02

This is great. No, I I I knew it was a lot of content, but content for passion. So thank you. We so appreciate you. So appreciate you. Oh no, likewise, I I so appreciate what you're doing in the world, and thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh gosh, thank you for congratulations on your on your daughter through service.

SPEAKER_02

That's awesome. She's awesome. Thank you. So cool. Amazing.

SPEAKER_00

And good much more success to you. You're already got it, but way more. Keep going. This is phenomenal. Phenomenal. Yeah, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01

Excited for excited for when you guys come to LA. Yes. Oh, we'll be there.

SPEAKER_00

We'll be there.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, awesome. I love it.

SPEAKER_01

Awesome. Thank you so much, Anthony. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Take care.

SPEAKER_00

Phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01

Like, imagine if that was a full hour.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh. Like, like information to the max. So well spoken. So well so well spoken. I can't.

SPEAKER_01

There's rare, there's rare times in podcasts where like we don't really need to say much because they got it all. They're just like, here are here are my information, here's my education. And it's like, you go, girl.

SPEAKER_00

It was great. Oh, I so appreciate your time. So appreciate your time. We're so thankful that you came on. I it's really gonna help a lot of people. It really is. And then to to put them over there to to her site, Pregnant-ish, you know, to to to help people include themselves even more. Because you know, we we talk about a lot of this stuff, but not as in depth as well. And the funny thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and the funny thing about it is like, like I said, like I saw them on Instagram, and so I only had a very because it's not like I ever like dove deep until like I was like, Hey, you want to come on the podcast or something? So like I just always thought of it like, oh, look, just like a little education thing. Here we go. Like, but no, it's so much more, and her background to it is fascinating and like perfect person to do this. Yeah, isn't that inter isn't that crazy? Like everything happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh. Yep. And so cool that she had a baby through surrogacy. Like so beautiful and let's connect all those dots. Yeah, that's so awesome.

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So awesome. Well, thank you so much, Andrea Impregnatus. This is absolutely amazing. Um, if anybody has any questions or stories that they would like to share with us, please feel free to reach out to us on Instagram at stop periodsitperiod surrogate or at our email at stop periodsitperiod surrogate at gmail.com.

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