No Shade Just Palm Trees

EP. 231 "Make-a-D*ck Foundation" Pt. 2 Ft. Two Ill Chics

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Childhood rebellion, parental discipline, and the mishaps that followed - sounds like a thrilling podcast episode, right? Join us as we journey through these captivating topics in a heart-to-heart discussion with our guest, Jessica. From sharing our childhood experiences to discussing lessons learned, expect to be entertained and enlightened. Remember Jessica's door punishment story? It's just a small glimpse of what's in store!

What happens when financial issues meet family dynamics? We dive into these waters uncovering the discipline measures Jessica's parents took and how their resourcefulness influenced her childhood. We also share some quite amusing tales of Jessica's attempts at rebellion - from mixtape fiasco to misadventures with pigs and cigarette bullets. We bet you're curious about the 'knock that dick down in the dirt' phrase. Well, we've got that covered too!

And then there's the topic that's been on everyone's lips: double standards in gender expression. How do we navigate this tricky terrain? Using examples from pop culture icons like Little Richard and Prince, we dissect masculine and feminine energies and how they shape childhood experiences. Boys playing with dolls, girls roughhousing - shouldn't kids have the freedom to explore without judgment? We think so! Join us as we delve deeper into this topic with insight, laughter and a touch of rebellion. We guarantee you'll leave this episode with a fresh perspective on childhood discipline, parenting, and personal growth.

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Childhood Door Punishments

Speaker 1

And it would call our ladies. Nah Right, what's that? What's that? I went to a school called All Ladies and Sorrows. I'm in like first grade and I'm the only black girl in my whole class. So I hung out with this girl named Jessica. All right, jessica, and cool little white girl loved her, was in love with one of my best friends in the class, but Jessica really was one of those bitches that was like fuck you, mom, I'm leaving my door open and I'm doing what I want. Come on, tammy, we're gonna like hang out in here. Okay, fuck my mom, first grade Dead ass not lying. So of course, I'm bold as fuck, right, I'm excited. I'm like, oh, we can talk to our parents like this. Damn, this shit is wild. I'd go home Having a weekend with them. Jessica, ass, I'd go home. My mama said something. I was like I ain't that shit, mama, I'm good. Slam my door, daddy, come home. Took the whole door away. I don't know how I got my door back for like three years.

Speaker 2

Oh shit.

Speaker 1

I don't think I got my door back Probably longer than that.

Speaker 2

I think my whole childhood I don't remember having a door.

Speaker 1

It was a blur. It was a blur, it was a blur and I knew I could get dressed. But he said you ain't gonna slam a man in the door in this fucking house. It's not thinking in white. Little people, you can act like your wife, oh that first the most creative punishments that I think I ever heard of, and the first time I heard of it I was in high school and I was in the 11th grade.

Speaker 2

And my whole thing got his door, the door to kill me.

Speaker 1

We are 16, 17 years old and he get his door to I don't know what you mean. She took the door. He was like she took the whole door.

Speaker 2

I said oh, who is this?

Parental Discipline and Expectations

Speaker 1

He said, yeah, off the hinges I ain't got no door. I caught that nigga. No door for the rest of the screen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's what she called the boy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I made sure I didn't ever do anything that would cause me to lose the door, Nigga.

Speaker 2

I made sure you didn't know how you did it.

Speaker 1

Oh girl. We closed doors really quietly for the rest of my life around my house. You turned the knob before you closed it down. You turned it real slow. No, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Never slam the fucking door, do you understand? Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. That's what I did. I thought Jessica was my friend.

Speaker 2

Mm. Now, Jessica said she was a failure. That's what she did.

Speaker 1

We in first grade. Jessica mouth like we were six and forty. I'm trying to figure out how you still got your things. Yeah, nobody ever said I was terrified. That's not it. I'm not afraid I was so terrified that first day, but, mind you, I had a sleepover so I was only there for like two days. The second, in the morning, she was like Mom, we're so fucking sweet, pfft. And I was like bitch, you're gonna get a. What bitch? She was like my mom's not gonna fucking with me. Okay, we in first grade. She's six and seven years old this time. Y'all can't talk about y'all behind, y'all back when you don't beat them.

Speaker 2

This is true.

Speaker 1

Just so y'all know.

Speaker 2

Very true, just so y'all know. It's very true, that's fucking wild, that's absolutely.

Speaker 1

Beat, beat, beat, beat, beat that in.

Speaker 2

Damn. That's just a good one I couldn't even.

Speaker 1

I couldn't even. At seven. I could not even have formulated the thought that my mama wasn't gonna do something. She would have felt it Like her spidey stuff was just fucking cool. I'm gonna wait and finish it Like this little niggas in there having thoughts she ain't got no fucking reason. Let me go with her own GP. I used to hate that White parents. Don't have that radar. No, you don't have GP weapons. No, gp weapons are her thing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I used to hate that Like no, my mama used to tell me to go do shit you were about to use your brain Whatever you was thinking about.

Speaker 1

You know you just took your ass. Now, Mm, Be a Mm Mm. I know you know me Big ass GP.

Speaker 2

Why'd you?

Speaker 1

have to go out with GP with me that ass shit yeah. Let's go again. You couldn't even roll your eyes in the back.

Speaker 2

No, hell, no, I'm gonna roll my hands, I'm gonna put my purse in there. And roll your eyes. This is fast.

Speaker 1

Don't drag your feet.

Speaker 2

Nope, what you better not make a sound. You're snapping nobody, nope.

Speaker 1

Like your bodily functions are very basic who are you? What else? You are not allowed to do, no extra shit. That's right here here, here here, Don't let your neck roll. I know the boys in here, the girls. Don't let your neck roll.

Speaker 2

Oh, I know that killed y'all. You're the one who fucked your shoulders, yeah.

Speaker 1

You can do not. I was trying to explain a story and I hit that neck roll. My mama said bop, not try again. I was like Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. I hit that neck roll, I hit my telephone Still a girl Bop. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Wow yeah, man Got my own free day, man that's crazy the sun rise like this. You got a damn right. That's I like to be. Like you gonna be saying a lot of these fuckin' sunrises, that's what we gonna get.

Speaker 2

That's wow.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 2

Damn. Well wow, Y'all some thugs man.

Speaker 1

See see for that.

Speaker 2

I'm not gonna be a thug. It's a brand of black. I was a daddy, a dad, I don't know what you're talking about these new kids think they thugs?

Speaker 1

know, come home and have your daddy knock the wind out and you just cut. That's your thug, did your thug? Okay? You said, hey, daddy, good you, sir in this house, who you talking to? You ain't been chin checked.

Speaker 2

No, you're trying to breathe.

Speaker 1

You're trying to breathe your grandma chin check you, and then I will believe that you have some thugging Woo, what's that cry? My grandma say chin check, what's that cry? You don't got a pop into your chest. Bro, that was that one, that's a good one. And then they look at you and they tell you cut it out, stop.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's what they want with me. I give you something to cry about.

Speaker 1

What the fuck you eat. Ain't that wrong with me? And then I have the nerve sometimes to give you something to cry about you made me cry.

Speaker 2

Yep, yes, what was that? The initial strike was very impactful. It hurt. You made me cry that shit hurt it.

Speaker 1

Then you gonna lie the whole way through my roof and talk about this gonna hurt you more than this gonna hurt me. Bitch, let's trade places and let's see if that energy is still kept.

Speaker 2

Listen, just because you getting, you got extra work shifts to pick up at work. Don't, don't, don't, come take it out on me.

Speaker 1

Get to the door.

Speaker 2

It's not fair to me, okay.

Parenting Boundaries and Sexual Preferences

Speaker 1

Don't breathe too hard. Don't breathe like like no, literally, don't breathe too hard.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you wouldn't make a big deal. Yeah, couldn't do none of that, nope, what, none of that.

Speaker 1

What you breathing hard for Express yourself Ooh. Pay the tax place.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna show you some disrespect.

Speaker 1

Well, you know what else you couldn't do. I don't know about y'all, mama, but this woman used to get my mama. You ever accidentally hit her in the back of the hill with a shopping cart.

Speaker 2

Oh, straight fire flames. What is that? Is that where they trigger button is at? Yes, somebody get some air, because I get mad when that happens. Yeah, it hurts, it definitely hurts, and you just looking like.

Speaker 1

I'm ready to take you out and make another one look just like you, because you get me in the hill. But then you're gonna take me to do it Because the first time she ain't gonna say nothing. How many times you do it?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you probably did it like four times. She sick of your shit. You actually gotta take her out. She's kind of in a good bad.

Speaker 1

Well, if you had enough money for you to fill this basket, I wouldn't be able to push it so fast that it wouldn't hit you in the hills as much. So maybe you should work more hours so you can fill it with basket and it don't move so fast into your feet. Well, that's why y'all ass, that's loud, never said that loud, never said it out loud, but definitely thought it. But she does that shit. Why you been talking.

Speaker 2

Mama was me, so mean you can't reply with a huh either.

Speaker 1

I couldn't do that, mama is it you what I couldn't say? Huh, nope. If you huh, you can what.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

You can hear, if you can, huh, you can hear baby, that thing is a boy, say huh.

Speaker 1

Mama yell through the house for you and when you answer back in the yell, she tell you to stop yelling. I feel like shit. Now. What, nica, you just called me. What In my business? It's got a normal mama thing. It's got a normal mama thing. It's got a normal mama thing, and then, be bothered, what? Oh my God, it's got a big. And I was like what should I do with it? It was because they wanted to get their ass up once they call their name and come into the room. Don't yell back at me.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I called you for a reason. Yeah, yes, what you need. What does that mean? What I need? I called you, come to me.

Speaker 2

And if you take too long.

Speaker 1

Who don't make me call you twice, don't make me come in there, and why have to be?

Speaker 2

up.

Speaker 1

I called you.

Speaker 2

And I didn't want to get up. The quickest speed, the quickest speed down that hallway and then in your doorway. Then you hear me calling you.

Speaker 1

I know you heard me calling you.

Speaker 2

Like oh my God, I was coming.

Speaker 1

Whatever, you've been hearing me. So if you was on your tablet, your gamepad, your TV, that shit gone, because the only person in this house really is me yeah.

Speaker 2

She said my dad threw me across the bed.

Speaker 1

Probably because you just said hey, daddy, that's it.

Speaker 2

You all know that man picked up two shifts. That thing be tough man. It's rough out here. But yeah, that stuff with the parents is wild, it's all the wild. Is it different for y'all now, since, since y'all kids get to have a chance to express themselves and the all refrain from what you mean.

Speaker 1

I know I rose, so I know. Neck rolling Still ain't no. Snapping Still ain't no. Smacking no. Teeth Ain't no. Slamming those Ain't no yelling back at me. When I call you, you come to me. These things are the said. What's understood does not have to be explained, so no longer has to be said. But those boundaries are still there. It's like my daughter has a really bad temper. Real quick. She real quick to get mad. My son's slow boy with my daughter quick and she's slicking the mouth. If you want somebody who is slicking the mouth to hurt your feelings she don't want to talk to. But I have to help her understand that you can express yourself, you can express how you feel. Sometimes you might need to take a minute before you do that so you can get done. You know, collect your thoughts and express yourself in a proper manner as opposed to just snapping off facts. So yeah, there's, there's freedom to express that like I didn't have as a kid, but there's still some boundaries to be respected. So, right, I like it. It's random.

Speaker 1

Yeah, random, it's like you're going to be there.

Speaker 2

Oh they're in there OK.

Speaker 1

You're trying to bust them in a chance about acting right when school friend get you to win spoon. But they don't write their names on a permanent marker to Hang it up. Hang it up like on a very common wall.

Speaker 2

Bad.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I got to get the spoons on sale. We got four of them, yeah that's good. Well, you know, we really don't do corporate punishment.

Speaker 2

Too much in my house.

Speaker 1

It's because 15 flashbacks and shit, oh yeah.

Speaker 2

I'm not going to get the spoon.

Speaker 1

I'm not going to get the spoon. I'm not going to get the spoon. I'm not going to get the spoon. I'm not going to get the spoon. I'm not going to get the spoon.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

I know so much. It just as hard to kind of look my children. But right. But we definitely punish them in things like that.

Speaker 2

Like taking out the door. They're not.

Speaker 1

I was not shorter. Now, fuck that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, taking iPads.

Speaker 1

I'm waiting for the day, just not to door.

Speaker 2

I'm not you waiting for the day.

Speaker 1

Could you know they started school and they go around and mother people.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the others.

Speaker 1

Mix company. I don't know. We'll see what. They bring it home, but don't bring too much. It's at home. You don't need no door, I swear Sorry.

Speaker 2

No, all good. So let me ask you how long should sex last? Good sex Toes curling Crip blood gang sign toes.

Speaker 1

I hate this question and I was playing the way. I hate this question because a quickie can be mind blowing, but in a session can be just as mind blowing, so it's kind of hard. You can give me seven minutes and 5775. We can make some puddles and 750. Okay, but that 30 minute, 40 minute, three hours, six hour sessions, baby Whoo Back to back, back to back, 30 orgasms. This shit you, hello. What was your question?

Speaker 2

Six hours.

Speaker 1

Okay, really, that's outrageous to you. To me, rage number, you know how to a real session.

Speaker 2

No, no, I don't, mm, mm, I don't want to. That is too long. I don't want to do it. That's too long, too long.

Speaker 1

Brace and get snap packs. What the fuck Like.

Speaker 2

you got to get water in between, but yeah, but that's too long, Six hours worth Okay.

Speaker 1

Great, your turn, because apparently I do too much. Oh great, you did the marathon. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You ran off on a plug twice three times damn. I think she knew, I think she'll mute. Come on, talk to the people now you be, you six, you six hours or more, you doing a work day.

Speaker 1

I Got to where I am, off of an eight-hour session, wow.

Speaker 2

See that the confusion is this y'all call it. Y'all call it a session, which would insinuate or imply that it's continuous.

Speaker 1

I Mean that's the only thing you're doing in that eight-hour session, then yes, that is a continuous thing. But I mind you hold on pause. Let's be realistic. We humans and we have to make sure that we go get some snapbacks with some Gatorade to replenish and then, like you just say, you know, let's see the whole time. I Think the best session I had was with my husband. Hello whoa the art, the back to back mind blowing bitch. I thought I was floating in the air, I Guess yeah.

Speaker 1

Astral protection. I'm like looking at my body like a floating up cuz I'm fucking orgasm, orgasm back. Oh yeah, yes, some sessions are the greatest, but I'm gonna twist that. We have kids, so sometimes what I do is make sure the iPads are charged up and I throw some snapbacks in the hallway and let them know the juice boxes in the refrigerator and then we get it in. That's like 17 minute. That should be good though.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what the kids and they're trying to play tic-tac-toe and shit. Now we don't. Came in a goddamn room and been over and did they got damn thing for seven to ten minutes. Right, I'm blowing still to me so.

Speaker 2

So there is no difference for you. There is the the sessions Versus the quickies there. They're on the same plane.

Speaker 1

For you, no, not the same plane.

Speaker 1

So I feel like the sessions are usually more intimate, planned out intentional. For me the quickies are usually spontaneous and like that's why I think the quickies are good. Think about a quickie. The quickies are like whoo yeah, oh, we do, we want this right now. Fuck some kids, let's get it in. Yeah, yeah. But then the session is usually planned out. We have like time. There's no children around, we, you know, I'm saying Massages and candles, music, like the session is a little bit different, it's a little more intimate. So there is definitely a big difference. But I feel like the why the quickies work is because it's like that spontaneous energy that we're giving each other one time. That's not even, you know, I'm saying yeah you cannot stop.

Speaker 1

Fuck them kids. I don't care what we're doing, you don't win. On lunch break, meet me at the car, babe, because I'm thinking about you for the last hour and I can't stop myself. We can get in the back of this, this van real quick. Yeah, I feel like that is still powerful, because it's still that same energy there.

Speaker 2

Oh, you spin, you spin.

Speaker 1

No, maybe I'm just a freak, but either way, I don't know if I'm spinning. I'm a swallow. What hello? We still here on the show, yeah.

Speaker 2

So we're gonna go with this was. This is my.

Speaker 1

Tammy.

Speaker 2

That's lit though.

Speaker 1

Oh, can I say something real quick? Can I do a little shout out?

Speaker 2

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1

Hey, shout out to everybody who voted me in on stereo. Um, I have a game, but I didn't know I had a game Um my legs, the Timelights. So if you really fuck with me and you're probably Timelights Mount the fuck up and let's make sure you get my Timelight gang gang into the battle royale. I would love to see the Timelights be all the most fuckers, okay that'll be hard.

Speaker 1

Timelights I'm. I thought it was funny at first, but now that I'm up there, fuck that shit. Timelights melts up. Timelights melts it. Roll out the vote for me. Timelight, gang, gang, gang, gang, gang gang. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 2

Let's go.

Speaker 1

I'm shout out to the Timelights. Shout out. I really don't like that shit, but fuck it.

Speaker 2

You don't like weaponizing your fan base?

Speaker 1

I'm not a Beyonce, I would never do that. But at this very moment, hey Trilliana, hey girl, hey, I would never. Hey, it's news. My people I have been, it's been many. It's grits. Tell the truth, there's been many times a whole collective be like who you talking about. Let me know. We jumped the ass and I'd be like, hey, chill, we don't want to do that, but at this moment I need my time. Let's roll. Let's go Shout out Timelights. Timi Poppins.

Speaker 2

Oh shit.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm gonna fight about that. I never even imagine that would be on the damn, because there's some really cool gangs on Serio and, uh, I'm up there with some fucking hardcore like thugs, like Gang games on serial who's been established for a while.

Speaker 2

So when they nominated Timelights.

Speaker 1

They've been funny, but guess what? Who ain't gonna be funny? I'm gonna make them a family like. Show up and vote for me.

Speaker 2

Oh god.

Speaker 1

Let's go.

Speaker 2

Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1

Oh god, man Damn baby Jesus.

Speaker 2

All forms of baby Jesus.

Speaker 1

Six out nine pounds babies.

Speaker 2

The pre-pubescent Jesus to the teenage Jesus, the adult the, the rebellious Jesus keep the party going Jesus. Rebellious Jesus. Oh, that's fucking funny. I'm out of here. Dad, get out of my room.

Speaker 1

Get out of my room. You're always once. Get out of my fucking head. You're not even my real dad.

Speaker 2

You always want something, there you go he said that to Joseph.

Parents' Financial Issues and Family Dynamics

Speaker 1

I know he said that to Joseph. I know he did. I know every chance he got he told Joseph. I know he was in Joseph face like I thought you had you a virgin, huh, but a whole baby popped up. Now what? You can't tell me what to do. God had a first, your wife. God had a first, and what? And what? Now? What? He hit it first. What, joseph?

Speaker 2

What.

Speaker 1

You know, I could take you out right now, those niggas Right now, but I ain't gonna do that. You're gonna make me turn your coffee into poison, niggas. Do you want me call my real daddy, bitch, do you Nothing? Do you want me to call my real daddy, do you? Cause I could call it right now. Hold on.

Speaker 2

And my daddy he'll. He'll show up right here and beat your dad ass. That's how they be breathing when kids get hyped. It's the stupidest conversation kids we have. My daddy can beat up your dad, my daddy got a car. That's fucked up.

Speaker 1

My dad came home yesterday and he had a check and he gave the whole check to my mom and then she took it and she was down for a few hours and when he came home he was really upset because she had took that check and she didn't have that check no more, and but she had all of these bags and he had to help her unpack all the bags out of the car. And they just kept talking and arguing and there was a lot of people that said I don't know some of them, but some of them I know and I can't say it because I'm not allowed. But then they got real quiet and then I just heard like a Like, a Like, this noise and then my mom was crying and she kept calling to God. So I think they had made up. But this morning my dad was still mad that the check was gone.

Speaker 2

Stove coat.

Speaker 1

God damn it. That's how kids tell.

Speaker 2

They really do. No context, no context, just all business.

Speaker 1

There's no reason for them to tell you this.

Speaker 2

No, hey, hey, hey. Uh, day quan, how was your weekend? It was good, my mom, my dad, and that's how it's done, the fuck.

Speaker 1

Mom got arrested last night. Yes, hey Quan, we didn't ask you, that I know, but mom got arrested and I'm in my grandma's house.

Speaker 2

We just asked you. We're serious with you guys. That's all we wanted.

Speaker 1

We're serious with you guys. That's all we asked. Because you're not on kids, we go and do it. So now you're like well, fuck it. Thank you, mom, for getting a rest. Before it she was still out of Walmart and just kept out. She said she didn't get my school supply. It's no. And it don't stop it, just keep going. Yes, it's worse. My daddy told me we were gonna get him, but he, he, um, he, um. He don't get out to ten to five years.

Speaker 2

He in school, like me, but then when I came home, the lights was off. We had to use candles.

Speaker 1

What was this Like?

Speaker 2

what? What is happening right now? I should have never asked this kid, this question, and all you said was what did you eat for breakfast? That's it, we had to get dressed in the dark and mom Made it a game.

Speaker 1

And that's where it started, because he remembered he had to have a cereal with water. Where it started. He just broke the whole story. I get the correlation. You see how it works, hmm.

Speaker 2

Hmm, had to spend the night at my grandma's house.

Speaker 1

And she, she got roaches and she got no air conditioners. Her couch smell funny. It smell like some diet every day in her house. Ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 2

Ha, ha ha.

Speaker 1

She keep her teeth on this glass in the counter. She got a big rubbery thing in the shower. Yes, I want it sometimes. Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 2

Ha, ha ha. Oh Shit Facts.

Speaker 1

Facts, that is awesome.

Speaker 2

Yes, that is facts, right there.

Speaker 1

I don't think I realized what that? Was until I got grown. Even throughout my teenage years, I still didn't know what the f*** that bag was. Yep Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2

What color?

Speaker 1

was yours red, it was red.

Speaker 2

Grandma had that red bang in her and I know everybody had the Cookie paying full of pens, right Y'all?

Speaker 1

grandma had that oh the.

Speaker 2

Butter cookies.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Universal, it's universal shit.

Speaker 1

Hold on, wait, I got one more. It's gotta be three. How many of y'all had the country cock?

Speaker 2

Ain't no butter. Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

Speaker 1

I literally would open up Like ooh, I need a little toast, toast. I need a little butter on my toast, toast.

Speaker 2

This is left over spaghetti With two days to go, she had Butter Butter in the crisper. I never even seen that. You don't know country crocs, so I should have known. That's what I'm saying. I don't know where that thing Even came from Yep.

Speaker 1

We must have took a plate at somebody, barbecue or something I have a question for y'all what do? Y'all do with y'all plastic bags.

Speaker 2

Oh, those my lunch bags.

Speaker 1

I really wish I could carry this Compete it right now with me. I just looked at the cabinet. I went grocery shopping and I had about 20 bags and even though I opened this cabinet and bags were falling on me Like a bag of litch, a bag of litch, I still stuck these other 20 bags In there and I pushed them and I kicked them bitches and I tucked and I folded and I closed the cabinet like nothing was wrong with my life. You need the bags and I will say this. Anyway, I don't give a fuck. Black people are not here. We recycle everything.

Speaker 1

If the environment is fucked up, it ain't because of us Recycle and repurpose, bust some straws. My momma didn't buy them, damn straws.

Speaker 2

You drunk that shit from the goddamn plastic ass cup.

Speaker 1

That she recycled from the 7-Eleven store.

Speaker 2

We recycle everything Full of McDonald's cups.

Speaker 1

Thank you. I got some 7-Eleven momma. I had so many of them shit in her house.

Speaker 2

They lowkey, need to bring that shit back.

Speaker 1

That one ballin' cat. I'm getting spanked. Y'all remember when red lobster used to make the glasses they look like the lighthouses. We had a whole cabinet like a whole show for the cabinet, Somehow somewhere, I don't know. This was back when my mama was really a thug, because she used to take Boone's find in a movie theater and she used to make me sneak it in in my backpack. So this was my mama.

Speaker 2

She was on her bed Her and her boyfriend.

Speaker 1

At the time his name was Craig. I do remember Craig quite well. Hey, Craig, I actually liked him. They used to go to Red Lobster to eat a lot, A lot, a lot. That was their spot at Red Lobster. We ended up with every kind of Red Lobster glass. You could think of the damn Lighthouse glasses, the funky like sweet drink glasses, but they all say Red Lobster, the little dishes that have like condiments in it. We had a whole bunch of those Red Lobster knives, Red Lobster Wait Grits. Read the comment real quick.

Speaker 2

I used to flip it upside down we had it on the stairs.

Speaker 1

Did y'all have it on the?

Speaker 2

stairs. We had it on the stairs and in the entrance In the hallway with the spikes at the bottom. How many of y'all could cross that?

Speaker 1

road when that beach flipped up. You didn't know it was flipped up and your fucking feet.

Speaker 2

Be fucked off. Yes, be fucked off.

Speaker 1

Y'all never got stuck to grandma couch I have plenty of time Because she ain't got no fucking air condition in her bitch.

Speaker 2

They got plastic, you got a peel of the milk off.

Speaker 1

It's like a peel of couch, it's like peeling theyself off. It's all kind of fucking dead skin cells, all kind of shit. All over this shit, because niggas just in here, just blushing.

Speaker 2

Why did grandma use?

Speaker 1

to turn on the fucking airbrush.

Speaker 2

Just for fusing I'm melting the plastic cushions Just open the window.

Speaker 1

The couch would be faded as fuck underneath the plastic.

Speaker 2

But they won't take the plastic off Because the color is sticking to the plastic. It literally melted onto the plastic. They wouldn't take it off. I gotta preserve it.

Speaker 1

It's my couch, I'm still making payments on it. Shout out to the old people Payments taught us a lot. My mama used to make us order a seat. But Allah guide us, she gets to the seat.

Speaker 2

This is why we have trauma.

Speaker 1

We have trauma. You know what anxiety you have as a kid. Because you have this feeling, because some people told you this feeling. You know you're scared that you're gonna go to jail, but your mama got you still in.

Speaker 2

Yes, you just sit at the table rocking like a slave. You can impact this shit in your backpack.

Speaker 1

You just sit there like.

Speaker 2

As much as I eat up in here, I'm not a slave.

Speaker 1

I'm a slave. Now you've made me a co-conspirator.

Speaker 2

I already had a lot of get in this bitch.

Speaker 1

You know, I got there well, but you made me say I was six. No, I said 12. I'm 12.

Speaker 2

Shut your mouth, sir.

Speaker 1

You think about a whole five o'clock show.

Speaker 2

Shut your mouth.

Speaker 1

I'm not asking you to show, Because Tuesday night at IHOP all my kids eatin' free. Fuck they ate they under 12, right man he looks 14. Fuck you, bitch, that is a six-year-old.

Speaker 2

Voicey at the voice cracking stage. Mom, that's the worst part as a man hidden puberty. Well yeah, ayla, me whisper.

Speaker 1

She asked you what you want to drink. Just point to it on the way. Just point to it. Holy shit, oh my God. Wait, what the hell I had to drink out the water hose on the side of the house. Oh yeah, yeah, that's for show.

Speaker 2

You would stop killing stuff.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Is that a universal theme.

Speaker 2

Yeah, watchin' stories.

Speaker 1

Watching soap operas and stories and game shows.

Speaker 2

I don't want to be in there.

Speaker 1

That makes him mad too.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you seein' the whole outside whenever she does turn it on. You pulled it off the whole neighborhood. Yeah, come on now. Seriously, this is the new season. Why?

Speaker 1

we want to tell you outside we don't want to get stuck in the house, even though it's hot as fuck outside, we want to get stuck in the house. So we stay outside because it's great.

Speaker 2

You remember, I said we come in and make them last house open to her damn door.

Speaker 1

Our generation we didn't have like we could sit in our room all day and be on the computer and play video games. Like she was in the house. She was cleaning. Yeah, you was doin' something.

Speaker 2

As much as everyone's up cleaning. You were cleaning. Yeah, green cheese all this.

Speaker 1

I never thought that cheese would get in my life. I am so traumatized Snapping peas, cleaning greens.

Speaker 2

Cleaning yep cleaning greens.

Speaker 1

Pilling potatoes fuck.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that shit's ass. That shit is ass. Food be good though.

Speaker 1

I did not mind cleaning with her on Saturday and Sunday mornings because her plate was just fire. Ah okay, I gave my mama her Saturday Sunday morning playlists.

Speaker 2

That is fire. Did your mama play?

Speaker 1

music when she cleaned.

Speaker 2

Yeah, mine did yeah.

Speaker 1

She played music when she cleaned. What was her playbook like, because I've noticed too, my mom was religious as hell. So some hello, mike. My mom was religious as hell.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

You know, when we first started that first Saturday morning it was always some Husqai walk-up playing in the morning.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

You know, as the day progressed, prints functions, stuff like that.

Speaker 2

So what was your mom's playlist like that's how I know all them songs like Jamaica Funk. Those type of artists Don't disturb this groove like all that stuff. Yeah, there's, so Don't disturb this groove. Yeah, that's that shit. I fuck with that.

Speaker 1

This is where you learn to love music. Yeah.

Speaker 2

But they had so much like I never heard the same song over.

Speaker 1

You didn't, Mike, because all the songs was 15 minutes long.

Speaker 2

That too.

Speaker 1

You didn't have time to hear repeats. They was the longest. The music we have now is learning like under two minutes.

Speaker 2

Yeah, literally.

Speaker 1

Me and Grisha were playing something the other day and I was like, oh, hold on, they got a long intro. It was 16 minutes long. I didn't know if it was a compunction, we were playing or something right, it was definitely something like that. We was like, oh, this is six minutes song.

Speaker 2

Everybody, everybody knows.

Speaker 1

We were excited to see a six-minute song that should be fire. I like that shit I'll be pulling up in the whip playing them songs.

Speaker 2

I'll be blasting them shits. I realized, man, I ain't trying to. I'm not trying to listen to this, whatever this shit is today. Now I listen to Flippa T. I listen to some fucking funny ass name, but I listen to that. But after that two minutes and 30 seconds I'm going right back to some other shit, some old school shit, some even old school R&B Like that. Oh my God, I love that shit.

Speaker 1

Prince was my mama's stuff.

Speaker 2

Prince was fucking fire.

Speaker 1

He prays Prince, have you in the house.

Speaker 2

Purple Rain is my favorite movie. That shit's fire. It's the greatest musical ever Hands down.

Speaker 1

I guess he could say she was 16.

Speaker 2

That's that shit.

Speaker 1

I'm a master of the whole town. I love that whole scene. That make you start hitting the shoulders.

Speaker 2

Dang.

Speaker 1

That was real. Come back, nikki, come back. Definitely my best, my favorite scene out of that Cause he was like smirking at her. Come back, Nikki.

Speaker 2

I said it's nigga raw.

Speaker 1

The only motherfucker that you know. They probably in this generation. They will call him Zesty and sweet, but yeah, he still had this masculine energy about him. The bitches went crazy For show. Put it like this he had a masculine energy about him. He wore blouses, bitch, he was still pulling bitches. You niggas could never. He wore blouses where you had to refer to him as like sire and lord. It was. Prince has entered the building Make room for Lord Prince.

Speaker 2

Prince looked like he would say like one words, just one word, responses to stuff, I feel like Charlie Murphy really did. No, I believe that story.

Speaker 1

Like when he was saying blouses, cause you said word right.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I truly believe he was like a one word guy, like Peasant.

Speaker 1

Like some pain. Charlie, charlie, peasantry, what you like to paint, not a dark. What was that? I know, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2

Pure peasantry.

Speaker 1

Angel by Hayley Yeats Angel.

Speaker 2

Yeats.

Speaker 1

That's what I thought of, I don't know. Oh, this is a good one. If you heard Mary Day Blinds, when you woke up Saturday morning, that man, mama, called that.

Speaker 2

Oh shit no big facts.

Speaker 1

Like damn, damn, damn damn, we was going to have a good Saturday. I'm going down. That's the song. Oh shit, you ain't a man.

Mixtape Mishap and Family Fallout

Speaker 2

Now, this is how I knew, this is how I knew low key, how I knew when my dad no, no, he ain't never fucked up when my, when my, when my dad was send him out or send my mom out on like a little girls trip, I would have her best friends to get paid this shit. Come on early in the morning, I love. I'll be like, oh shit, mama here, pancakes, bacon, sausage being cooked. I was like, oh shit, hey, come down here and get some pancakes and some to eat and then we'll eat, and then we'll go cut grass, watch the car, clean the house. I'm like yo. Saturday.

Speaker 1

Like like that, that sounds like my Saturday. She was on the phone with me most of this morning Saturday. Did we not walk in?

Speaker 2

Yep, that's how I go, that's how I would know like my kids, that childhood I'm okay with it, yeah. Trust me, they will love it, they will come out better people.

Speaker 1

It's much as possible.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

Yes, some really fucking good music.

Speaker 2

That's it. That's all that's needed. But yeah, that I would. I would never forget that and I remember my dad gave me the tape of cameo and I fucking recorded over it by accident. He was pissed, pissed. It was really by accident. I didn't know, the tape was in my deck, I thought it was the black household. No, it ain't, I did that yeah. I did that shit, according to him. Let him tell it. But yeah, that pissed him off, but yeah, he got a little bit of what you get.

Speaker 1

You got a little bit.

Speaker 2

No, I ain't get a woman. He was just really mad, yeah, like Superman.

Speaker 1

I broke my stepdaddy's heart one time because the outcast and the roots and some other people from the West Coast were like you know, when mixtapes we're talking about early nineties, right Mixtapes you only get a mixtape from the trunk of somebody's car, Right? You feel me. So this is a wonderful kind of thing. This is not something you could go buy again. This is a mixtape from somebody's car and it was the dopest mixtape you can possibly think of. I'm talking about from West Coast to New York, because he had Kairos one in that bitch. We had outcasts, we had a 40. We had easy E. This mixtape was dope.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I did what you did, but he pissed me off and I recorded some fucking Brandy and Matura.

Speaker 2

Oh, oh, my God.

Speaker 1

He was so good at talking to me for a very long time and I'm not talking about days he was so hurt because he knew he had history in his hand and I didn't understand that at the time. This was history. That was the dopest mixtape you could have ever got. I'm talking about new releases.

Speaker 2

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1

I'm talking about these motherfuckers. Alcaz had just got started.

Speaker 2

Yes, that alone.

Speaker 1

This was history. I'm talking about stuff that didn't even want to feed me that night.

Speaker 2

I feel him.

Speaker 1

He was hurt, he was crushed, did you understand the music Like the only one. I grew up in the cults, kind of religious cult shit. So I just kind of know I have to explain this part because I didn't get to listen to hip hop for real, for real. Yeah, yeah so the only real hip hop he let me listen to was conscious Hip hop rap.

Speaker 2

Got you.

Speaker 1

Hey, richard, tears shout out. Sorry y'all. My people from Facebook are showing up Shout out to my Facebook family. So we didn't get to listen to a lot of gospel music. So when he did, let me listen to stuff. It was like what's the group called A recipe element or a group Things like that I was a kind of punches rap. I was able to listen to.

Misadventures With Pigs and Cigarette Bullets

Speaker 1

The K-1, of course, was on that list, even though he had 1,000 notes in New York. My daddy didn't care, he thought it was part of the revolution. But this next take was golden. And come to find out I did some research as of recently, there's only five of them, tapes, left. Oh, oh, oh, woo, woo.

Speaker 1

Oh, he steamed he wanted to have me for half of that year I'm talking about. He knew he had history. Yeah, because that's how popular he was to hip hop, like my stepdaddy really knew he had history. He wasn't fucked with me Because I said oh yeah, I put on some goddamn, I got the munchies. I missed I was recorded. Over this bullshit that he was recorded, I would cry. It was so bad. He couldn't even whip me because he was just so hurt.

Speaker 2

He was doing it. Yeah, yeah, for show.

Speaker 1

I'm going to tell you right now. You got something coming to you. If you know her childhood stories, like I know her childhood stories, she's in a world of hurt Because if karma decide, karma for the comeback for you, come on, get me my girl, my kid's best thing, come get me. He's been not having no one on ones of anything.

Speaker 2

Oh, I know what you're talking about. She been a head of a pet. She been not having any to walk her.

Speaker 1

She been not letting get hold of her. He never tried to farm some pigs of her own like there's so much. That was my pig bitch. You know what? He never told me that he was going to get killed. That was my pig, fuck you. That's why I took his little balls. Ok, you know, the little Walker right Got the little tennis ball. Yeah, to keep it even and not wobbly and move faster.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Fuck that shit. Oh my, that was my piggy. I raised that piggy for a long time yeah. You even crispy bacon. He had to kill my pig.

Speaker 2

He, he, he, he farmed pigs. This was not the great.

Speaker 1

He made me kill her. He made me kill her. He made me kill her. He made me, he made me kill her. You know when, no pet, how do you make you kill me? Oh, my God, because in order to make the story make sense right, it was still super sweet to me, trying his best to be sweet. So my nickname now is the kid Fuck all y'all on stereo. Yeah, but not ever call me the shit. I swear to God I will never play a message.

Speaker 1

He called me squirt. Remember grits? I told you I was little, or whatever he was. I squirt. Now you know I got pigs because I look away into the auction. We will. I would take the pigs with him to the auction. I knew what it was right, but I kind of like low key thought that I was. I was cute, not with an exception. This is my pig. Okay, what he really calmly told me, very calm squirt. Now you know we eat this, make money from this. This is your pig. But we got to go and take him out now. He didn't too big to be in the in the farm. He, he, he old. He got to go to meet. Gonna be nasty, like he explained it to me.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2

Oh, so you didn't care, you ignored that.

Speaker 1

He made me it was a matter I had to slit his throat, so it's not like Michael Jackson when, when they, when he caught the mouse.

Speaker 2

It's not like that.

Speaker 1

Is that what you just correlated?

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's not like that, because nobody told Mike that the mouse wasn't supposed to be in the house. Mike thought that the mouse was.

Speaker 1

He did.

Speaker 2

He said, hey, we eat this, we make money off of this. And you were like, ok, I'm a bitch friend, what? What do you mean? You see how all the other kids came and went.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because I was the only female grandbaby in the whole family and granddaddy loved me, even though I played tricks on him. I'm not a lot. That epiphany just went off for you to burn down his garage. I didn't give a fuck. I was his only grand girl, my grandbaby girl, that he had, so I didn't ever think that he would make me kill my pig. I'm spoiled. The fuck that's my pee. But he did taste good Also. Shout out to my pee.

Speaker 2

What was his name?

Speaker 1

We're not doing this. I'm not from the crowd. We're not from the crowd. Bacon means that's his name. His name was Bacon.

Speaker 2

It was Krispy Bacon.

Speaker 1

Krispy Bacon Run Run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run Run. No no, no, no, no, no, no. Bomb byside rice clod Holdin' my whole fuckin' country. As original, h Państime pulled him on a tree and everything and drippin' his blood. Aw that shit, and he taught me how to make hotantine tran his blood too. Look like you couldn't just slip the throat and then walk away to go heal. You had to watch him die.

Speaker 2

That's fuckin' wow.

Speaker 1

So this is what I became the cold blooded hunter that I became. I woulda burned his house down. It took his walker his Walker balls too. Okay, I'm just fine in that shit, right? No, I just would have done it too. I'm just saying I'm just fine, I'm just fine.

Speaker 2

No, you're not just fine, I'm just saying I'm just fine, there's no problem in needing to be wrong. It's fine with me when I burned out his shed.

Speaker 1

That really wasn't an accident, don't gris? I didn't need to do that. I thought.

Speaker 2

I would no accidents in black households, you know that's what I was talking about. It was I'm talking about. That's the saddest.

Speaker 1

That's the saddest I made my granddaddy.

Speaker 2

I did his chapel.

Speaker 1

I had to make all that shit so I thought I was double seven. I really was trying to make bullets out of cigarettes. You know what the fuck is this. This is not a Tammy interview. What the fuck is the next?

Speaker 2

question. I mean Loki Trying to make bullets out of cigarettes. Remember, I told you the story.

Speaker 1

I was really into double seven. I was all nigga, fuck you grits. I just figured you just did. No, you're not doing this Because you know that's not the story. I'm not doing this. Next question, mr Wraith, this is your fucking pie guys. I'm not feeling how Tammy into the fucking story.

Speaker 2

But the bullets.

Speaker 1

OK, so me and granddaddy really was into double seven together.

Speaker 2

Oh, so now is you and granddad.

Speaker 1

No, for real, I was double seven for granddaddy. The TV show the TV show we just come on and it was great. It was, it was Perry Mason and it was double seven, right, all right. So there was one particular episode of double seven where he had a bullet made out of cigarettes. Granddaddy smoked, so I took the correct and he also made his own bullets. All right, we're talking about country Mississippi shit, all right. So I knew he had gunpowder in the damn shed. All right, I took granddaddy's cigarettes and I saw stuff in his cigarette. So gunpowder and just just go to see him burn down. But right now he was so hurt I'm talking about a part that wasn't that big, you feel me, but still I burned out his day, I burned out his working day.

Speaker 2

So, hurt.

Speaker 1

He didn't touch me for the whole summer and I just got there. But I know there were a lot of summers with him not talking to you.

Speaker 2

So Allah? So at no point was your granddad like yo was your granddad. Like yo, I want cigarette bullets. He never said that you took it upon yourself to do that.

Speaker 1

I thought I could do it.

Speaker 2

All right, we finna get up out of here, yeah.

Speaker 1

I thought I was a mini double O seven. I took a part in the car, I took a part in shit. I was a curious little kid. I wanted to know how shit worked. But once I burned out the shed, that curiosity was done. You're with the adults, was nobody ever watching.

Speaker 2

That's what I'm like. He didn't have no friends Like no.

Speaker 1

What's super sad. My cousins were in Mississippi. You all don't know how Mississippi was. Back in that part of Mississippi, mark's Mississippi is country and is still to this day, dirt road. We had no friends that could tell you like, no, tammy, don't do that. I wasn't my granddad's house by myself. My cousins were at my auntie house down the street. You gotta know how Mississippi worked, bro. Like Mississippi is country as hell. Little mama was like two miles down. Remember when I told you I tried to run away and go to the little mama house and I had my little back? God damn it. Ah, chris, chris, where are you right now? Look at Chris, look at Chris. I didn't even got to say nothing, I'm just trying to get you an idea. Like the little mama house was like literally like maybe two miles away, that's it Like two miles from granddaddy house and so like that was only other people there, my cousins was at my auntie house, which was probably five, six, 10 miles away.

Speaker 1

I know I'm doing kids fucking shit Cause I'm talking to members of the child's right, so I have to be like 17 miles away. It's gonna go well. It's like four songs how long is four songs? And I know that sounds crazy, but as a kid I remember it will always say four songs. Tell me about 20 to 30 minutes. I'm crazy. Four songs, that's five miles. All right, that's five miles, all right, all right. There you go. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? Four songs like in the day, four songs. You got me right Five minutes, not four songs now. Four songs now. It was down the street.

Speaker 2

Oh shit.

Speaker 1

Four, six, eight, four, six, eight, four, six eight. That's eight minutes now. Oh my God, what the fuck is happening.

Speaker 2

Y'all wow, boy, that's all.

Speaker 1

I was a well behaved. My parents beat me. I got beat me.

Speaker 2

So I ain't got no story to share I mean I got whip ins too.

Speaker 1

I got beat.

Speaker 2

No, nigga, I got beat, you know that you know that weight lifting is very, very bad.

Speaker 1

Talk to me with your grandma. Take that off to whip you with it. Is that what she?

Speaker 2

She has strength.

Speaker 1

She did what.

Speaker 2

She has strength.

Speaker 1

The thick belts are like weight weight lifters use for their back. My grandma used to wear one for her back. She used to take that off. She used to whip us with that Girl. That shit, are you okay? Pure leather, I'm fine Girl. Them things is thick.

Speaker 2

They start advertising them belts.

Speaker 1

They had a stick to the ashtray she was throwing. Remember the old school ashtrays that they used to make like in a stick to the ashtray. All them things was heavy.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

For sure.

Speaker 1

She turned into the Hulk when she got pissed cause she picked them shits up with two fingers and hurled, wouldn't know, acting up in my grandma house.

Speaker 2

Did y'all have that wicker chair, that uh?

Speaker 1

I want that chair. I want that chair. Yeah, yeah, that rocking chair, cause we had both. No, just the one that just sat in the back, and it was like I'm gonna send you a picture of me and my mama and that wicker chair.

Speaker 2

What about? Uh, did y'all have a black panther statue? Not the, not the fucking loopy, not that one, just a legit, a black panther. Okay.

Speaker 1

I'm just gonna put my fist up. Wakanda forever. Black panther yes, the statue that came up to your damn side, the black one with the golden eyes. I know you got one.

Speaker 2

Not that one. She got mad. I'ma keep it up.

Speaker 1

Did y'all ever have like the velvet type of tapestry type of streets that hung on the wall, like behind the couch. Yeah, we had those. I had one. I swear to God it was a Latin Jasmine on it, but a Latin Jasmine.

Speaker 2

It was.

Speaker 1

Latin Jasmine, and then there was yeah, and then they had another one, like it looked like some real authentic, like Arabian knives. Like Latin Jasmine. It was hanging. And then she had another one. I had like a tiger or some shit, but it was velvet. It felt real soft. Wow, is this velvet? That's why.

Speaker 2

What is that?

Speaker 1

Is that a black Jesus or white Jesus hanging in your house? The blinking act, and we had the Bible. Did y'all have like the big ass Bible?

Speaker 2

Yes, that had birth certificates in it.

Family Gossip and Observing as Child

Speaker 1

That's why that Bible was what they called it. It was a family Bible. It's a giant Bible, yeah.

Speaker 2

And it had birth certificates. What all those? No, I gotta realize the birth certificates were in the back. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1

Right, I didn't know that either. That Bible had a lot of history.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's like wow.

Speaker 1

It was a family tree.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Who gave you the Bible? Yeah, them Bibles was dope.

Speaker 2

It's a lot of shit in there.

Speaker 1

I was like oh, but I could never touch it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, same.

Speaker 1

You ain't allowed to touch it. Same, it's just a Bible.

Speaker 2

Yeah, don't even look at it actually.

Speaker 1

I feel like that was really our only family history at one point in time. Was those Bibles?

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I think that's the only thing they would take if the house burned out.

Speaker 1

What the Bible, the Bible.

Speaker 2

Because it got everything in it.

Speaker 1

Because it had your whole family tree. Yeah, Like the Bibles. People would think that people were crazy for doing that, but in Black families it wasn't about them just taking the Bible. That was like history.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I low key think it had money in it too, like rainy day money. Yeah, granite.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it was a nice official show.

Speaker 2

It's a lot of shit, Like I'm starting to realize as I grow up. Like oh, Maybe I should do that.

Speaker 1

I have a question for you Because I'm at Christmas question. I'm going to ask you, mr Ways, do you think the first lady who ever put like all her jewelry on, like on every fucking finger and all her necklaces, and she had like 10 earrings all the way up and all this shit do you think she did that out of the fact that she had a crack head cousin and she couldn't leave her jewelry at the house because he was staying there so she had to wear all her shit at the house so she wouldn't steal it? Or you think it was a fashion statement?

Speaker 2

What time period are we talking about here? The very first lady.

Speaker 1

I would be in the 90s.

Speaker 2

I would go, I would go, I would go, probably fashion statement.

Speaker 1

For where you live honestly.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I honestly think it was. You know what region of the country you lived in.

Speaker 2

Yeah, ok, because I would, I would say fashion statement because of that. I think, it was a very good fashion statement because of it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm thinking East Coast I think it started off as you had some crack head people who were staying in your house and you didn't want them to pawn your shit, so you decided to wear all your shit at once.

Speaker 2

That is true, that is true.

Speaker 1

You became fashionable. And then it was as something else.

Speaker 2

Uncle Ray Ray can't come over no more If that nigga come to, and that'd be the only time my mama comes, if that nigga come to the door.

Speaker 1

You don't answer that, do you?

Speaker 2

Don't answer that door, ok, ma.

Speaker 1

Don't let that nigga in.

Speaker 2

Don't let that nigga in.

Speaker 1

Right RJ, and that was another thing. She was a walking lick. Yeah, she was Run me that watch.

Speaker 2

That is true.

Speaker 1

But I think them women were tough.

Speaker 2

Yeah, get butt naked.

Speaker 1

You really didn't touch the women, though you really didn't touch them. No, you, that's you imagine how long it would take you to rob somebody with all that shit on. Yeah, don't you believe me. Hold on, I'm so sorry, hold on. This one's fucked up. Oh, this one's fucked up. And then it You're my first husband. I've been here forever. That's not how robbery is supposed to go. You're supposed to be in and out.

Speaker 2

And the shit don't be like the movies. You can't just gun, gun but people and they pass out Like the shit doesn't happen that way. You gun but them, they start crying and what you even do that.

Speaker 1

It works in the movie. You can't do that. I thought it was a movie. I thought it was a real thing.

Speaker 2

I wouldn't gave it to you. Call it being gone.

Speaker 1

You can just ask for it.

Speaker 2

Jimmy the Christmas.

Speaker 1

I had to fight with police, say the magic word it's yours. I see you're gone. I was giving it up. You have to hit me. Stay out. I don't want no problems. I don't want no problems, buddy.

Speaker 2

Jennifer Anderson.

Speaker 1

Buddy, you fucking buddy.

Speaker 2

Oh, when white people call you buddy, oh shit, nigga. Look here, buddy. When they threaten you with the weather too, you're walking on thin ice. You're walking on thin ice. Whoa, what, whoa.

Speaker 1

You're walking on thin ice. That is serious.

Speaker 2

I ain't all right now. You're mad.

Speaker 1

It's about to be a quiet storm in here.

Speaker 2

Newsflash buddy.

Speaker 1

Believe you, me. You got a netting coming. You got a netting coming.

Speaker 2

Newsflash another thing coming.

Speaker 1

You got another thing coming.

Speaker 2

Rat's ass.

Speaker 1

What is going?

Speaker 2

I don't give a rat's ass, god damn.

Speaker 1

I'm going to light a fire in your ass. Wait and see.

Speaker 2

Fuck, wait and see buddy and white people say some of the most gayest shit Fuck me in the ass and catch me running Like what?

Speaker 1

Oh, that's just a man of shit.

Speaker 2

Like what Are you?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 2

Who is fucking you in the ass? Why does somebody have to fuck you in the ass?

Speaker 1

Fuck me in the ass and call me Billy Bob, because I didn't even say that. That is a bad day. I can get it. What do you mean that's a bad? If I'm getting fucked in the ass, that is a bad day. Well, fuck me in the ass. What is happening? Have you ever been ready to put a nigga dick in the dirt.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, that's some southern shit too, that's some country shit too.

Speaker 1

All right, my nigga, I'm going to knock that dick down in the dirty, but you have to fuck about me. You didn't say this right. I wish my husband would come here and do that shit, because he does that well, and that southern shit, such as the four boys. They had a shit all the time. What does that even mean? What does that even mean? You knocked somebody dick in the dirt and we find out. You know what that means. That means you ain't never knocked somebody dick in the dirt.

Speaker 2

I have not.

Speaker 1

I can't. I can't recall the time that I have ever, never have I ever done any. That's some old country man, shit. He's probably the one talking with a cigarette hanging out his mouth. That never goes anywhere. I don't want to stick to the myth. Yeah, it's not me. I get you I don't know what a magical skill that is. It's radiating, it's like a volcanic cigarette hanging out his mouth and it doesn't fall out. I trust that nigga. Yeah, I trust that nigga.

Speaker 2

Need new carmer.

Speaker 1

How long has it been there without you lighting what? What Everybody's lighting? What's the difference? What is that? What is that? It never is lit. You never fall with this lyric, like it's just there hanging the whole time you talking. You like that bitch going to fall.

Speaker 2

Yes, no, gotta get that. It never falls anywhere. No guy that can give me a new carburetor. I'll put it in there for you.

Speaker 1

And like it kind of like a bird in the mess up Catalytic. Hey, yeah.

Speaker 2

I think you need some Blinker fluid. Uh, pick a white one. So Blinker fluid, I got you. Yeah, come on back here. You know, I got me a granddaughter around your age, right? You know what I mean, you told him you was using it. She all right.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you might not just wear it.

Speaker 2

It is fucking with some old bum ass that ain't got this shit together Beating on her. Sometimes you know they be a old folk, be telling business to like little kids they like unsolicited information.

Speaker 1

How you doing.

Speaker 2

How yo they being?

Speaker 1

What you been Shit. Let me tell you about this. Rosemary, I asked you how you doing. Yes, I didn't ask you. Shoot about how, rosemary, what you got going on.

Speaker 2

Nah, did you hear about her? You know um old girl down the street, her son, you know he just got locked up.

Speaker 1

You know what they do. They be like yeah, little Greg got like that. You be like I see who, little Greg. You know. Little Greg, right, what grade for that, antoine. You know I put like grandma, I don't know, antoine. They will say the name like 10 times.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I still don't know who the fuck is. You just tell the story at this point.

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker 1

Antoine is not registering.

Speaker 2

I guess, yes, you remember you were there, he didn't say don't turn anything. It's a whole wrong wrong name, completely different person.

Speaker 1

You're not saying anything, but at this point you're like yeah, grandma, I know, just have this story.

Speaker 2

But the funny part is Growing up they used to tell us that's adult, stay out of adult conversations and those are the adult conversations Gossip. I don't want to know that shit. Yeah, and it was smart.

Speaker 1

I mean, and became a quiet little kid. I became a quiet little kid because I wanted to observe and watch and learn. I was always in a business. You knew all the tea. I thought a dog, I mean, I knew all about my drunk uncle, my one uncle. He used to play dress up in his, his wife's, underwear. I learned all that shit, all the things. Don't do that, don't make the big guys. I knew all the family TV. I got one too. Now that's why I made the big guys.

Speaker 2

That's why I was like, oh Thought it was just my family Wrong. The best part about being a little kid was that you could be quiet and as long as you didn't say shit, you knew everybody's business.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I knew everybody's business. I knew my auntie. I learned what one of my aunties for being real quiet. I never knew she was gay, never knew who the old game was.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, one family union.

Speaker 1

They was like oh, here come auntie Cheryl, hello friend. So I never understood when they would say friend, yeah, right. So, auntie Cheryl and her long friend, which they were to get like 15 years right, mm-hmm had broke up. Damn, they got these kind of hot news right. So when I truly understood that her friend slash roommate, moved out and why, that was my introduction to the LGBTQ community, ah. I was 11 years old.

Speaker 2

That's fucking spicy, I'm not gonna hold you 15 years.

Speaker 1

Didn't know, because what she came to say to me was what she was like this is my friend, or I thought that was her roommate.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

I'm a child.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I was 11 when I found out that that was her partner. Wow. And when they broke up, they're fucking like ripple to the family. Like they're ripple. Yeah, they're gonna be prolonged, right? Oh, that shit was golden. I love that fucking. I would never forget that memory. I figured out what the hell was really going on.

Speaker 2

Yeah, a dog conversation.

Speaker 1

I wish we had Google back then, because, bitch, I would have been killed. What?

Speaker 2

But we didn't have Google Nah.

Speaker 1

Right, nah, I had encyclopedia Britannica and they nobody had time for looking through that shit. There was no lesbian and it was cyclical.

Speaker 2

The Ellen and Hill muscular.

Speaker 1

No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2

The Ellen and Hill.

Speaker 1

No, that stuff wasn't in that particular. Maybe that addition, but it wasn't there. Because I was really curious. Figure out like, so this, what does this mean about unsure? Like I really wanted to know. I'm in the world with Heavies I'm talking about. The whole family was upset with her when this shit went down and I was trying to figure out what's up. No, they didn't call them lesbians. Then they called them bull daggers, bull daggers.

Speaker 1

Bull daggers was not a good name. I didn't know that was a thing or something was wrong with that right, because that's all I've seen my whole life from her. Yeah, I didn't know, but she was a bull dagger and I learned them.

Speaker 2

I like them. I like that phrase. It's hilarious to me, god damn, bull Damn.

Speaker 1

We were terrible. We were terrible. They called her lady a bull dagger. She was my auntie. I'm too sure I was sweet as shit, so I'm too sure I love you I'm what's the Without saying double standard?

Speaker 2

Give me a real logical reason as to why Tom boys Are accepted, but when a man does the flip of that.

Speaker 1

What's the flipper with Tom boy? Give me an example.

Speaker 2

Hey, we. He said Fuck.

Speaker 1

For the man, what's the boy? What is the opposite?

Speaker 2

Because I don't know what the opposite would be, but will I am, came out and he said he embraces his feminine powers, his feminine side, because you know, it's a superpower for him and he was raised by his mom.

Speaker 1

Prince's opposite. Oh, ask him this.

Speaker 2

Uh, he was on a show. He was on a show, I'm pretty sure. He was on some show, I don't know. You volunteered that. Yes, he pretty much volunteered. Yeah, all right. So I was just curious like you know, tom boys are Tom boys, but when men do it, is there a term for it?

Speaker 1

What's the good? Okay, so a time for a girl. No reason. Why is the time for a girl? Because men put us in that, in that spot, right. So a time for a girl? Because I was considered a tomboy when I was little. I climbed trees. I would do anything. The boys was out there doing I was doing it too. I kept up with the boys. I played flat football.

Speaker 2

You wear.

Speaker 1

Tim's dirt. I was climbing like tree. When we have races, who was running barefooted in the fucking dirt trying to catch up? Neat. So what is a real time boy, for real, like you, get them to country. Yeah, I didn't think I was a tomboy. Do you get what I'm?

Speaker 2

saying yeah, it's the difference, yeah yeah, please and play.

Speaker 1

That's all we had. We know we played outside, so I would they considered to be a tomboy. Yeah, what would I guy equivalent to a time would actually be. I want to say it, but I can't. I don't think I understand. Thank you, Ryan's with tomboy would be like he painted nails.

Speaker 2

Well, that's what I understand, does it? That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 1

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I couldn't want a tomboy, would it be? I don't think the tomboy is actually accepted because I got willing for wanting to do the shit the boys would do, instead of being in the kitchen and pays it to my mama cooking, or being inside helping the old ladies. Pills potatoes shucking peas I didn't know how to cook until I was in my late 30s. Fuck me, me or earlier.

Speaker 1

I'll use a real tomboy like because most of the girls stayed inside to do girl stuff. I guess you could say girl stuff right.

Speaker 2

Right.

Double Standards in Gender Expression

Speaker 1

You know, learn how to. Why did learn how to crochet? But I'm talking about like I can't even think of anything that would the girls did. Most of the girls stayed inside. They didn't want to come outside, they were dainty, they thought it was going to melt. I played in the dirt, I made mud pies, I climbed trees. I thought little my cousins, we caught frogs and stuff like I did. Country shit.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

But I was considered a tomboy for doing that. So the opposite of that is what a Tom girl according to the dictionary? Okay. So what the time girl? What did they do? Stay inside and play with their barbies instead of Tom for drugs. It just says that they had feminine mannerisms. I don't know, I just played bones. I had barbies we get. I had Tomka drugs and transformers and I used to trip my cousins and fight them. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2

This is living life.

Speaker 1

A girl behaves in typically a girlish manner.

Speaker 2

I was just curious For me.

Speaker 1

I never thought that I was doing poor stuff. I thought I was doing kids shit. I thought I was still doing girly shit. So you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

You know the kid, maybe if they were doing girly shit and only? Women are raising him because obviously not a lot of good daddies around who's the same? They don't think they're just doing they don't think they're just doing childish shit and they only consider themselves doing stuff that is a groovy stuff.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1

Tell me how good, because she's thinking y'all. I like you when she's talking.

Speaker 2

I really understand little.

Speaker 1

Richard, that's a good example. And he said Prince too. He's giving some great examples. Yeah, little Rangoon and Prince, but Prince to me still, prince did not need. Yeah, I wouldn't put Prince in there at all. He's still eluded his masculinity still even in his lousies, 19, 20th century lousies.

Speaker 1

He's still eluded masculinity, so very masculine. He didn't have feminine mannerisms. I mean, the nigga could puree, he could pivot on you know the drop of that. But no, I don't think little Richard, I think, is a good example. But I think it's one of those double standard things, because you know, like she said, like at our age, like little girls could play like Legos, yeah, and you could play with the action figures and you could still play with the cars. You gotta play baseball. But if the little boy turned around and started playing Barbies with you, even if he was playing the kindle, it was still a problem. You and he in there cooking and you vacuum in, it's a problem, it was a problem. So I think it's just one of those double standards and I don't necessarily fuck with it.

Speaker 1

But I think that I think I still stand on my original point that who fuck cares no need to know this is true. I haven't like a shit and admit to shit and acknowledge it for yourself, yeah, but I need to announce it to the whole world, who didn't even ask. Now you look at the validation. I'm looking like you're not doing it yourself. Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 2

you shouldn't even be here right now because I'm looking like damn what, what, what well I am on this, this little show, black eyed peas breaking up like I don't know what. I know being feminine is a thing, there's no no, I'm pretty sure they're not, but I thought it was going to be something behind the scene story about you know what happens on nope, and this is what you started reading this year. Yeah, this is what he came out with.

Speaker 1

I never looked at him and was like, oh, look at that CC, never once. Yeah, yeah another word might be whatever, but you get my point why and I really hate this more than anything? Because my son is super sensitive to a lot of things, but he's also he's very boyish to a whole lot more, but he also.

Speaker 1

he loves to cook, he loves hugs and kisses. He loves to talk about his feelings. But if you want to know about the weather and tornadoes I bet you don't know about that, but you know about dinosaurs- yeah me and Gris learned a lot from him by dinosaur and the weather.

Speaker 1

What is he into right now? Roblox and mine crab. I feel like he shows more masculine energy than anything else, but those things that he he wants to cook, he loves to cook. He could eggs today and he kept me cook the biscuits and shit the girls, mind you. He's only other boys in this house besides my husband. Yeah, they're playing. Oh, you're gonna get you and you're curious. I'm gonna teach you.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Okay, I think a man that knows how to cook is sexy. So I'm gonna teach my son and I rely on these little dusty ass bitches who can't cook and cook him some goddamn chicken, alfredo, thinking that's goddamn, the only meal he could eat, thank you. So I'm teach my son how to cook for himself. So you want to call it some sushi shit? Fuck you, because my son gonna how to cook and what. He washes his own clothes, mind you, he's only six. He cleans up by himself, makes his own bed, he washes his own ass. He only dug up and help for that either. He cooks his own food, that's you call that feminine shit.

Speaker 1

You are a fucking narcissist asshole. They don't know how to balance your life out 100%.

Speaker 1

I cater to both sides of him, because both sides of him is very important for surviving. You need your feminine and you need your masculine energy to survive in this world. If you are going to tap into your masculine energy and be raw, raw, raw man I got this you're going to miss out on a whole lot if you don't tap into your feminine energy and also tap into understanding how to be soft and kind to women. You got to tap into that in order to get the pussy, and my son, hopefully, will grow up and get whatever the hell he want. I don't care which way it goes, I'm gonna love him either way, but you need both to survive.

Speaker 2

Just say get a cornucopia pussy, yeah Um.

Speaker 1

Oh, whatever you want, I'm gonna love you. Son, you look back on this and whatever you turn out, I'm gonna love you either way, not a cornucopia, I'm sorry. I'm gonna love you more. How ever you turn out, I'm gonna love you. You will know by the stories and weather and weird shit you be doing every. I love you so much.

Speaker 2

Have you seen the cornucopia?

Speaker 1

Can you?

Speaker 2

imagine All right, we're gonna get up out of here just a cornucopia Please look up what a cornucopia is and just cuz I'm wrong if I'm missing it.

Speaker 1

A re, thank you for coming by. Since when, since when, was being self-sufficient feminine girl? Have you not been on TikTok Great?

Speaker 2

Everything's good.

Speaker 1

You didn't let her know something Men that know how to get their birth certificates and ID and know how to find their paperwork. They were called suspect a while ago. You're suspect if you do anything that's required, it's big facts. But anything that your mom would have like taught you to do. It's not that funny because that is also the same list of shit bitches this day and age won't do.

Speaker 2

Well, the fuck is right.

Speaker 1

Do it cuz y'all won't so.

Speaker 2

Tammy, this is. This is a cornucopia.

Speaker 1

Oh, oh, that's on the hang underwear.

Speaker 2

I know that and pussy just falls out of it. You stop it with pussy.

Speaker 1

It's not the fruit. The frames underwear just has the fruit. It does not have the corn. I thought it had the whole little Monday. Yeah, mandela, yo ass huh. No, it does not have that. Shit was on there cuz Michael Jackson was there. Now Michael basketball player.

Speaker 2

Now we get the underwear from Mike.

Speaker 1

I can see how we got to Michael J MJ basketball player. He had the cornucopia in the commercial one time for the hands. Hello, hello, hello. You know what?

Speaker 2

Alright, hey, this has been great. We're gonna get up. We really gonna get up out of here. It's bad Please.

Speaker 1

Cornucopia.

Speaker 2

Of pussy. Oh, yeah, I like cornucopia, yeah, I like pussy, but yo thank y'all once again this was great, thank you. Awesome sauce, great times. You know the fucking vibes to ill chicks. Kiss my grits.

Speaker 1

We'll be going out to Tammy.

Speaker 2

No shade we up out of here, man. Thank y'all for tuning in the comment section. Stay lit. Y'all know what it is and we're getting light. It's okay I got this.

Speaker 1

Come on this, I'm strong and this. Hey, no such thing as Coming. I'm worse. I pass the Fuck with me, cuz right now I'm higher than that. That. That's where I be the sickest nigga. You can ask the nursing if you throw it in a bag. I bet I snatched her purse. Okay, I spank you last. I'm first. I'm on your ass like dirt behind a cash. Get my.

Speaker 2

I'm talking big shit, nigga Listen. I taught appreciated.

Speaker 1

Bye oh.

Speaker 2

And we are Not Life that last. There we go.