No Shade Just Palm Trees
Welcome to the 'No Shade Just Palm Trees Podcast,’ where shade is scarce, and laughter grows abundantly! Join our hosts, the man who traded his rap dreams for comedic schemes, as he spins tales of humorous misadventures and serves up life's quirks with a side of wit. Alongside him are two fabulous, ill in more ways than one, highly intelligent, beautiful unstoppable women, sharing their sizzling hot takes on life with freestyle comedy. Get ready for a podcast oasis filled with humor, laughter, and a whole lot of sunshine that’s inspiring, refreshing and informative. It's not just a show; it's a tropical vibe for your ears!
No Shade Just Palm Trees
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Could you imagine that the world of rap music, law, personal health, and even the existence of dinosaurs can all be explored in one place? Well, brace yourself for an enlightening ride as we take you through an engaging exploration. We kick-start the journey by unpacking Drake's latest album, appreciating the genius of his versatility that strikes a chord across different demographics. From marveling at his art to probing the power of his bars, we dissect what makes Drake the iconic artist he is today.
From the melodious thread of music, we transition to the more serious undertones of allegations and legal proceedings - with a focus on music mogul Diddy and his recent settlement with ex-girlfriend, Cassie. Our analysis goes beyond just the surface, addressing the intricate power-play and impact on the industry at large. But don't worry, we lighten up the mood as we shift gears and share some personal experiences with chicken pox, immunity, and a rather amusing debate on the existence of dinosaurs.
Drake's music, Diddy's alleged actions, the intrigues of law and personal health, all these boil down to one thing - an episode that's a blend of all things serious and fun. So, buckle up for a ride through the rap industry's changing dynamics, the complexities of abuse allegations, and the fascinating world of immunity and dinosaurs. This is not just an episode, it's an expedition into the crossroads of music, law, and personal health. Step in and join us on this exhilarating journey.
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Discussion About Drake's New Music
Speaker 1Sting cracking man. Make it cracker where you at. Make it do what it do. What up everybody. You know we just trying to do something special or whatever you know, but we're gonna set these vibes. You know, spooky, scary hours out here. You know the boy Drake that came through one time man, and I just thoroughly enjoyed this. It's like six tracks.
Speaker 2You're not thoroughly enjoying it Thoroughly, man. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1This is a bunch of lies, but I fuck with it. My brother told her. My brother told her this is a bunch of lies.
Speaker 2I said about it, I'm full of lies. Yeah, emma, thie what up man, my brother ain't bothered. Bottom of Range Rover, my brother flame thrower. It's like you playing EDM that nigga chain smoker Niggas you can hear it. I promise this game over. Yes, I can Hit your ass. Twist right here. Here came Rover and then you niggas wind up.
Speaker 1What is that? It's like some great growers man this, yeah, is that tea, Uh huh. Oh, it look like a jar of honey. Like you like drinking the honey?
Speaker 3Okay, but with the amount of honey I put in, it might be some honey.
Speaker 1Honey, honey with tea leaves.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Honey tea leaves my man, I wasn't trying to call you out, I was just like wait a minute. That looked good.
Speaker 2You just judging me out loud. I'm gonna make your age disappear like a slight ahead. My brother carry bundles and he snitches like hairstyles. It's me, him and a white team. We moving like paramour.
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Opinions on Music and Age Limits
Speaker 2I'm a bad man. They making the lion's ass up, clickin' up with haters. That was thinkin' and signin' to us, knowin' good and well that when I drop it inspire the spook Secret and my ears too embarrassed. They hot in the cut. See a towering over you. Niggas, I'm trying to spook. Wait on whoever to say whatever. They quiet and spook. The city don't love you like that. And they frying you up. I can't wait for the day that you choose to retire your stuff. That man cookin' that man cookin'.
Speaker 1I fuck when Drake is like that.
Speaker 3That's the Drake that I like. That's definitely the Drake that I like.
Speaker 1I hate it. I hate the fact he came out with this something for my dog. This is what I expected. This is what I was expecting. You're not Kobe Bryant to us. I was expecting bars like that. I was expecting those type of rocks.
Speaker 3I understand, but I also understand the need and the desire to sometimes maybe switch it up and hit a different part of your audience, like the demographic of your audience. I get it. I get it, I do, I definitely do.
Speaker 1He did that with the dance. How about we let you slide?
Speaker 3Maybe that specific group wanted more, maybe their numbers did good in other places and he was like oh, so they fuck you with it.
Speaker 1That's true, that's right the most. But what that nigga said, I left with a few teens. Christine, charlie, what?
Speaker 3I love his one-liners and his ad-libs. I love them. I literally live for them. I do, I live for them.
Speaker 1Drake is amazing.
Speaker 3Him and J Cole. I live for them.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, cole is amazing. I fucking, I love Cole.
Speaker 3That whole hey, hey.
Speaker 1Bunny J. What up dope?
Speaker 3I don't know if I just yelled. I need to yell for you to hear me. I don't know.
Speaker 1You know how. When you meet foreign people and you talk in their language, why do we talk?
Speaker 3My momma does that, and my momma got that shit bad. She got that shit so bad One day she turned into a full baloned Korean woman and I was just like what? Why are you talking like that? Why does she talk in broken English, like them, with a horrible version of their accent that they'll understand her better? They probably look at her like. This is stupid.
Speaker 1But okay, it's the worst accent.
Speaker 3I don't like girl who needs my help, but okay, just talk regular.
Speaker 1Talk like regular person, Just talk normal. You are now. You are.
Speaker 3If the worst of the nail shop, she really be doing it now. I'm like nigga. We come here every two weeks. These people understand regular English. You don't have to do this why.
Speaker 1We never go in there and be like let me get a pedicure. It's like yeah, I want pedicure.
Speaker 3What you think they be offended. I don't think they be offended, I do. I really wonder if they be offended Cause you like dummy ourselves down.
Speaker 1I would be offended. Thank you, this is what you think I sound like Like.
Speaker 3That's the part Cause to yourself. You don't sound that horrible, but you can see if somebody else market you and you like, okay, fuck you, fuck you mean.
Speaker 1Ah yeah, people are mad at Andre. I'm not. I thoroughly enjoy that shit.
Speaker 3I haven't listened to it. How is it?
Speaker 1It's good, it's very relaxing. You know it ain't, but he told you he was playing on the flute or whatever. But I just think people are full of shit. This is my take. I think people are full of shit. People are just full of shit. To me, this was marketing genius. This can be played in H&M. This can be played on the phone. This can be played while you go to sleep. This can be, this is universal, yes, universal music.
Speaker 3Like, everywhere you go, you can listen to this.
Speaker 1Everywhere this shit finna go diamond, triple diamond, and it's fire though, but it's fire, it's not like it's. I don't know what people want it. I don't, I don't and I.
Speaker 3He told y'all before the album release that he was not rapping.
Speaker 1Niggas don't deserve words. They don't. What do we like? What do you think like? Come on man.
Speaker 3How bad of a person, how bad of a people do you have to be To not deserve words?
Speaker 1Dre then said some of the most classic shit and I'm good for a lifetime. I'm good, I really am. I quote that shit to the common denominator the nigga numerator. Never know who the hater niggas cater to Yo ego. I'm sorry, like I talk like what. Do I need this nigga to rap again? For I don't need him. Roses really smell like real boo boo. Come on.
Speaker 3I don't even think. I don't even think like the current generation, the, the, the of where rap music is right now, Would even fuck with him.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 3Like our generation? No, I don't even. I don't even think they would.
Speaker 1They would.
Speaker 3There's definitely a time where, as a rapper, you need to Hang up the mic and go find you something else to do.
Speaker 1Pick up a flute.
Speaker 3Find you something else to do. Pick up a flute, to play an instrument, learn a new language. Pick up a paintbrush. That's what Snoop doing. Snoop out here, painting Like. Find another artistic, like direction to go in cause. I used to like rapping having an age limit. I do.
Speaker 1Back. I do, I do yeah.
Speaker 3I do, I do. I feel like it's probably the only genre well known in rock and roll, like that hardcore rock. The only two genres I could think of that have an expiration date.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's true, cause you look nuts still like with the black high-lineer and shit and you just like I want a rock.
Speaker 3You're so saggy, the black eye right around here now you just look stupid. You out here somebody pop-hop with black, pretty nail polish and fuck it just. You just sit down somewhere. Go down to baby on your moon, find you something else to do you put yourself into this. You put yourself into this genre where you I feel like you have to know that there's gonna come a point in time when it's just a rap it's done, yeah, go and have to find something else to do.
Speaker 1You have to, or just be a legacy act. Be a legacy act and call it a day. That's fire too. I mean, you know people finding a resurgence in their career. I mean, look what Usher did, usher, he was quiet, quiet. Nobody can name me one song off of that A album. Nobody, that nigga put that shit out to think 2020, 2021, nobody can name a song off of that.
Speaker 3I couldn't. Like come on, man, and that's crazy because if it came out in 2020, niggas wouldn't do anything but sit at home. It ain't like we were too busy. We have shit else to do but listen to music.
Speaker 1But it's like people won't fucking with Usher At that time. Who else? New edition they're another one. They just won't go away. 50 cent.
Speaker 3They all at residency age. Find you a residency somewhere?
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3In somebody lounge.
Speaker 1Sit down.
Speaker 3In the back of somebody, bar yeah.
Speaker 1Get your money relax. You know Peace sign was fire. Yes, timothy, I was just about to Peace sign fire on that A album. But niggas don't know that song.
Speaker 3I couldn't name nothing on that album.
Speaker 1That song. I don't think it's the first. It's not the first song, I don't think so. But this shit, this shit so hard I'm like home.
Speaker 3To we Meet Again.
Speaker 2I ain't tryna wear you out. Never cared enough. I'm a way to pick you up. Be ready when I pull up, babe. I don't wanna have to rush. I don't wanna be making love. Let me know if it ain't too much Won't stop. Never cared enough, babe it was sleeping on that.
Speaker 3I'm not a fan of his falsetto, but I do have a crush on you.
Speaker 1You don't fuck with his falsetto.
Speaker 3I'm not a fan of his falsetto.
Speaker 1It's really not fire, it's really not.
Speaker 3Do you think that part of the reason that people wasn't really looking for him anymore Was because now he's part of the bump bump bump crew, like once that came to light, people just was like I don't wanna listen to you talking about no baby making action, sir. Would you wanna listen to somebody that you know has an STD Seeing like love making music?
Speaker 1I, I was trying to Listen. What do these niggas do? Honestly, I'm gonna keep it a being with you, okay, okay. It would throw me off If I knew like magic Magic pause Magic Johnson could sing R&B. If he could sing R&B, if he wasn't a basketball player, he could lead the same life. Let's say he was I don't know. Let's say he was the Michael Jackson Of his Era. He was amazing and he had AIDS.
Speaker 3You don't want to hear him sing it About what he's gonna do to her in a bit. I don't know if I wanna hear that I can listen to Change in Places, which is a song that I love, but it just don't hit the same anymore, because I know I'm like. Sir, is it even safe for you to be doing this right now?
Speaker 1Yeah, so okay.
Speaker 3It don't hit the same. You can't talk sexy to me and I know you. Just you burning.
Speaker 1So okay, okay, so let me ask you this, so okay, so, let me ask you this. So the allegations? So R&B is the only genre where you can't really live the shit that you're talking about.
Speaker 3Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So allegations. And does it matter what STD it is? If it's an incurable STD, you don't wanna hear it. But if it's a curable one, it's fine.
Speaker 3I'm not gonna say it's fine, but it's not going to. If it's curable, yes, bum, bum, bum, he got that B2K. If it's curable, it probably won't it. Probably I'll be like, okay, make it. Go take some pills, get a shot in your ass. Maybe we can talk about something. But if it's something that's lifelong, like forever, has moved in and is now a permanent roommate with you, yeah, I don't wanna hear you saying it to me about nothing that you might do to me in any kind of sexual way Ever.
Speaker 1So okay, so this sex.
Speaker 3Star making jingles for STD commercials Star making jingles for tech, that's what you do. Go be a poster boy. The paperwork that's what you should do.
Speaker 1I should sing for HPV and shit like that.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, yes, and I don't know why nobody picked up on that. Do you know how fired that would have been? Like people would have been listening and I bet you the number of people going to get tested it would have increased. Like it definitely would have helped. They have the area to talk about like the new gonorrhea is like incurable.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's shit, that shit, you change.
Speaker 3It's probably we would have a problem if us you're had been out there singing and moonwalking across the floor telling you to go get tested. We have a solution. I don't know why you don't take me seriously. Let it burn. Let it burn.
Speaker 1Whoo, take, take, take new trexic.
Speaker 3You know another reason why I wouldn't hit, because you know how. You just be in the middle of your day living your life. There is a commercial, somewhere that lives rent free in your head that out of nowhere will pop up. He would have been like the Dollar Tree, singing, singing usher.
Speaker 1Don't let that One song, don't let that Don't let that thing have been on roller skates at that time too.
Speaker 3See, like all of these gimmicks, you can put these together and make it worse. Man, I don't know. Somebody needs to hire me.
Speaker 1Big Pharma, I'm sharing. Big pharma, that's nuts. Don't hump when you had a bump. Don't hump when you had a bump. Hey, when you fill it in your body, you fast.
Speaker 3It is worse. No more, no, bro, no, no, no, sir, shit, you can't say to me no more.
Speaker 1Don't let the committee get rid of you Shit. What is wrong? You got it. You got it back. It's different.
Speaker 3It's just that song don't mean the same thing, no more, yeah. So I think that's probably why his numbers really went down with that.
Speaker 1For real. Buy a new Trixic Side effects and glue Bloody stool, but you can live. And then the end of commercials. They be happy as fuck. I have got a rear in my eyes Like what, nigga? Like what just happened here. You too can live with me. I'm the CEO of my life, nigga, no.
Speaker 3We can light up, no nigga.
Speaker 1You are not the CEO of your life. You have fucked off some terrible Building houses and shit like nigga. You, finna, cut your hand and have everybody. This shit had to be quarantine. Niggas in suits, finna, come in this bitch they're commercials, those commercials, those commercials make no sense.
Speaker 3No, those, and like perfume and cologne commercials, listen, they don't make.
Discussion on Actors and Comedy Movies
Speaker 1Shit's pissed me off. Cologne commercials are so unnecessary. It's just always an ocean and it's just like it's always weird Survive what? What just happened?
Speaker 3Yeah, they had nigga in the desert, in the middle of the world, borealis going off and some chipmunks running across the community Like what's this got to do with the fucking cologne?
Speaker 1Chestnuts.
Speaker 3It's so weird, yeah, then they always got that sexy ass voice like what.
Speaker 1Gucci by chestnuts, chestnuts by Gucci what nigga. I'm going to go buy it, but damn, what was this?
Speaker 3Why.
Speaker 1I just seen one. It was a. It was Johnny Depp. It was Johnny Depp in the middle of the desert. It was a survival. Yes, playing the guitar, walking with wolves. How did you get there? Did you ride the wolves?
Speaker 3Wolves don't even live in the desert. Why the fuck are y'all there? Make any of this make sense.
Speaker 1It doesn't, none of it.
Speaker 3And yet that's one of the number one selling colognes for men Like it, just Savage.
Speaker 1I just don't understand.
Speaker 3Why is this happening? I don't know, and people. Somebody out there is getting paid to come up with this kind of stuff Right, wrap it up or you're going to get.
Speaker 1Wrap it up or you're going to get that class. I wonder if any of the. I wonder if any of the.
Speaker 3It's like you wasn't even there. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1It's like you wasn't even there.
Speaker 3It's true, he killed that shit. It's true.
Speaker 1Shit Glory for About to die Up in the woods. It's like you wasn't there. Then they hit that whisper talk to. It's like it wasn't there. There, I need help over in this window. Oh shit, what would be some? It's always like Don't make me laugh too hard.
Speaker 3Today. Y'all already on my deathbed.
Speaker 1It's always like this bullshit music Get it back to Glory, for it's like you wasn't there. I don't understand the voice. Why do they have to?
Speaker 3talk like why they can't talk very good.
Speaker 1It doesn't happen like, like in real life. I don't spray it Like Bobcat.
Speaker 3Gulf. Wait, you like a global commercial. I bet you'll never forget that shit. You'll never forget it. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1I don't think I would buy it.
Speaker 3Wait, I guarantee you, just because it's such a wild commercial and it's his crazy ass voice. You would smell it. Yes, I would. What's going to get?
Speaker 1But smelling it is what's going to get you to?
Speaker 3buy it If it's fire. I don't think the commercials. Yeah I don't think commercials make people buy cologne. That's that stupid it's. I don't think the commercials don't do that. You don't think so at all. I've never, I've never, I've never. I've never seen a fragrance commercial for any of the perfumes that I like to wear. That made me be like I got to go out and get that shit right now.
Speaker 1Yeah that's true. I mean, at least for me, I've never done it. I mean I like Johnny Depp but I am bought shit that I ever wanted, like that he's ever had, like his life is in shambles, hennessy, let's pretend to be.
Speaker 3No, he up. He up. Now Get his pinky back. Or is it his thumb? Whatever finger, yeah one of the things.
Speaker 1But Johnny got a lit ass life. He has lived a lit ass life, you really?
Speaker 3asked.
Speaker 1Question Hmm, answer.
Speaker 3Johnny Depp Um what's his name? Mike Myers.
Speaker 1Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3Or Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1Oh, that's tough, Tough, damn. That's pretty good, because I just saw Oppenheimer and fucking Robert Downey. Yes, robert Downey, chef's kiss.
Speaker 3He's great, he's great, he's really good oh shit.
Speaker 1Uh, I'm going to go with. I'm going with Johnny Depp only because Of impact. I'm going to go with the, the sheer impact that he has had on my life. Every character he has played, from Edward Scissor hands to Edward. Uh, Ikebot to Ikebot. Crane to uh, what's the? What was the haircut guy?
Speaker 3I can't remember his name when he was the haircut. Oh, what's the damn Damn that's his favorite movie too.
Speaker 1What's that damn movie? He was butchering the people. Yes, of course to that. It's just too many.
Speaker 3Willy Wonka.
Speaker 1To. Willy Wonka was lit to me because I seen where he drew inspiration from. Like I love shit like that. I love, I love actors like that. So, and I love all three of them, they're fired. But Johnny Depp is that guy, Johnny.
Speaker 3Depp is the guy. All three of them have a good range.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3They've all played multiple roles, like there's some actors you could think of who always play either themselves and everything, or they play the same character, like Liam Neeson. I don't care what fucking movie he's in, he's playing the same fucking person. Yes, damn.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3Person. But with those three that I just mentioned, there's such a variety in arranging them. With them I was just, I was just curious, like if you had to just pick one whose movies you could watch and the rest had to be on the way.
Speaker 1Who would you pick?
Speaker 2I'm gonna tell you what this is.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3There's Sweeney Tide-Yeskra. There's literally one movie that has me on the fence and it's fucking Tropic Thunder. Tropic Thunder, tropic Thunder, tropic Thunder has me so stuck between Robert and Johnny. I was just like I don't, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1He acted so well in that movie. Nobody seen or was offended by it. He acted so well.
Speaker 3I know a couple of movies who actually thought it was really a black dude playing the role.
Speaker 1Yes, yes.
Speaker 3Like he did a good job.
Speaker 1Listen, do you know, and this is what I keep I was talking to y'all about this. It is very hard to be funny, Like somebody to write a script for somebody to take words and then translate it or embody it and then act it out and then make other people believe it and then not have other. Come on, man.
Speaker 3Now I'm finna go watch that shit when I get off the bed.
Speaker 1Yeah, man, I'm finna go watch that shit, Like you know, I'm just out what you mean, you people?
Speaker 3What you mean, you people.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm watching that shit when I and when that nigga pull Brandon T Jackson to him, I pull him like close to his listen. Here. My people have been suffering for 400 years.
Speaker 3Song to the Jefferson Like yes, that is the theme song to the Jefferson.
Speaker 1On the East. Yo, robert Downey is that guy. He's really that guy, and he has much rather Robert. I don't think yeah, Robert can't drink no more, though that's. That's the other thing. He can't. No, he's over. Yeah, he was like a super alcoholic.
Speaker 3I remember that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why his his career was.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah he, he don't do that, no more.
Speaker 2Well, I don't think so because he was fucked.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know what he was doing before then, but I mean, I know he was acting, but like I don't know, he was acting before he was pretty popular actor in like the late 80s and the early 90s.
Speaker 3And then the fucking alcohol and, I'm sure, drugs probably. Yeah got to him.
Speaker 1Took him out.
Speaker 3But I'm glad he made a comeback.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's a great redemption story. It's real life Batman.
Speaker 3Now I'm sitting here trying to think where to fuck his Mike Myers, because I didn't see him since Katnett.
Speaker 1He been, he been out. But Mike, mike, that nigga though he really is. I seen Gold member the other day. I was just like bro, why did this? How? How do you see here and write a script like this?
Speaker 3Do you know what you remind me of? The white Eddie Murphy?
Speaker 1And that's.
Speaker 3That's who he kind of reminds me of.
Speaker 1Yes yes. And but he's legit funny. He is legit. It's smoking a bank, yeah.
Speaker 3I'm at the Google. Where is he at now? Yeah.
Speaker 1I don't know. I think he was on. He had a movie come out earlier, but Hell no, tropic Thunder could not exist today. No, no, I do not think Tropic Thunder would exist today. I don't think people would laugh at it.
Speaker 3And it's crazy because it's not even that old.
Speaker 1It's not, it was like I think 2014. If I think, but I don't think it would exist 2008.
Speaker 3So Shit, no, it would not survive.
Speaker 1No, they wouldn't have.
Speaker 3They're having it.
Speaker 1No, they're not doing that, they're not having it. The amount of body shame and the amount of racism, the amount of just outright, just jokes on mentally disabled people like that shit was fucking funny to me. So I didn't think, but I didn't think they did it in a harmful way.
Speaker 3I don't think it was a distasteful way either. Yeah. I just I don't think it was distasteful at all.
Speaker 1It was really funny it was hilarious.
Speaker 3Now I'll tell you who I didn't recognize in there at first, and I didn't recognize him until like halfway through. I did not realize that that was Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1I did not either. I didn't yeah.
Speaker 3It took me about a movie to realize that that was Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1Yes, I actually, yeah, did not know, so he did his thing in that movie too.
Speaker 3Like everybody in that movie did the damn thing.
Speaker 1It's hilarious. It's Tropic Thunder is a classic. I went to the theaters to see that. I remember that yes, yes, in, in and left in tears both times. Like this, shit is hilarious.
Speaker 3It's still. No matter how many times you watch it, the shit still funny. Simple Jack, it'll be not. Simple Jack, you never go food. No, he couldn't say that, you couldn't. No, no.
Speaker 1Like, why did he preface? He preface everything with a hug Right before he talked.
Speaker 3I feel like he was watching somebody black. I'm like, yes, very different character. I don't know.
Speaker 1That shit is hilarious. You oh, bunny J, you got to see it.
Speaker 3You've never seen Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 1Oh, please, please. If you have never seen Tropic Thunder, please see it tonight Now you've got to watch it. It's Got to Put the kids up.
Speaker 3Yes, especially the youngest, to put them up. But yes, good movie.
Speaker 1That shit is hilarious. Jack Black is actually funny in it.
Speaker 3Jack Black is pretty funny in it. He's decent too.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3There's nobody in that movie that I could say was disappointing.
Speaker 1No, no, it actually made Brandon T Jackson funny Like yes he's not funny to me, but he was funny in there the whole movie is yeah.
Speaker 3I need more of that in my life.
Speaker 1Yes, they don't. They don't make that and they don't make. You know, um, I watched Road Trip. I don't know if you've seen that. You seen that they don't make movies like that, they don't make comedies like that. They went to a whole college. It was like a whole college comedy deal. Like they don't do that shit, no more. They don't do none of that shit. Nobody goes to college, no more.
Speaker 3Like I wouldn't say that. What I would say is that a lot of the conversations that happen, Especially what college students, can be offensive to a lot of people. Me personally, I'm not going to be offended, but a lot of people would listen to some of the shit they say and would be like matter of fact. That just reminded me. Have you watched what is the name of that show on Netflix? It's got built. What's his name? Bill Burr.
Speaker 1Oh, oh, that's.
Speaker 3Nick.
Speaker 1I haven't finished it. I haven't finished it.
Speaker 3Me okay. Have you seen the scene where they're in the car on the road trip and they have the conversation. No, no, okay, so I won't say nothing else, oh, okay. We'll talk yeah, but that's.
Speaker 1that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about Okay, because I'm at where the scene I'm at now is. He had just gave the olive branch to the teacher.
Speaker 3I hated her. Yeah, but for y'all who are watching, if you have not watched with old dads right. On Netflix. Please watch it.
Speaker 1I can't, it's so good.
Speaker 3I wish to make it like a series, but it's a movie.
Speaker 1Oh, they say grits coming in a little quiet.
Speaker 3Am I? Can you hear me now? Maybe I should yeah.
Speaker 1You sound. You sound all right in my headphones, but I got on headphones yeah.
Speaker 3I don't know, we tried, but yeah, you guys watch old dads and Bunny J Watch Tropic Thunder. That's your home.
Speaker 1Yeah, give me the goddamn map. Why was he saying huh Like, I still don't understand that shit.
Speaker 3I don't know, I don't know, but it was funny. It was funny, oh man.
Speaker 1So, usher, I mean I sure did. You saw they settled. What are your thoughts? I know you said there's a surviving diddy coming. Do you first of all? Do you still think it's coming, absolutely Okay.
Speaker 3Absolutely so. I believe that the reason that he settled within less than 48 hours record time of this shit being filed Is because he did the shit that she said he did. Yes, not only that, I think, if it did go to trial other things that he does not want to expose that he could possibly have criminal charges pressed against him for could come to like. So, like, like there's been a lot of post-mortem cases where he's been charged for a lot of things, like there's been a lot of posts today of people like well, all she wanted was money. And I'm like some of you don't realize how the legal system works. There is this thing called a statute of limitations.
Speaker 1Not to be confused with statues.
Speaker 3Of liberty? I don't know.
Speaker 1My nigga.
Diddy, Legal Issues, and Allegations
Speaker 3Which basically means that there are things that could have been done and if they aren't charged for five minutes, they can never be filed. Rape has a statute of limitations. Domestic abuse has a statute of limitations. Abuse period they like they are the only one, the only crime. I know 100%. What I know too, that don't have a statue or murder and like terrorist acts, yeah, but everything else has like a limit, and the reason it has a limit is because the further you get away from the actual time of the crime, the harder it is to get evidence and to prove it.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 3So when that's the case, your best next option is a civil suit For you idiots and not your listening, but for you idiots. Well, for you idiots listening, who don't understand the purpose of a civil suit it is monetary. The judgment at the end, when everybody walks away, is going to have to do with money. So, yes, she filed it for a payout, More than likely because a lot of the shit that he did to her she can't get criminal charges for.
Speaker 1Right, that's it, that's all.
Speaker 3It's that simple, yeah.
Speaker 1And.
Speaker 3I say this I don't know what did y'all know? But the did I know and the did it that I've been watching since, like I was 13, 14 Is a narcissist and that nigga does not back down from anything when he knows he is in the right. Oh yeah for him to turn around and just be like you know what here Quite.
Speaker 1Undisclosed. I'm so happy for Cassie and.
Speaker 3I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1I just I'm glad people are starting to realize that I'm well. First Let me say I'm glad you explained this to the people about the court system, how it works, because it just shows that people don't pay attention. They don't. They don't know how shit goes. They don't know, like the, the back workings, the inner workings of civil suits. They haven't been anywhere. I've just recently started getting into courts and stuff like that. Like I've never been the court, I dare my life I've never been. I don't even watch this shit.
Speaker 3I've, I love to watch court TV. Well, now it's old court TV.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3I've done. I've been in a couple different Litigation situations, currently going through one now that I can't speak on.
Speaker 1Do that feel good when you say that shit, I'm going through some shit right now. I can't really speak on that shit. No, we're standing on business.
Speaker 3I wish I could, I wish I could, but I can't. But, um, even I think part of the reason why he settled so quickly. One is mostly just so shit, don't that he did in the dark. Don't come to like, yeah, mind you, over the last at least two decades there's been rumors and accusations, or whatever right.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Diddy would make a lot of his artists signed in DA's.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3They couldn't. They couldn't say shit, they couldn't do shit. I Wouldn't even be surprised if, if Cassie had someone and he just recently expired, so she was finally able to be like huh, nigga, got you yeah. Yeah ain't no forget, brah but the flip.
Speaker 1So here's and this is why it's so important for people to like be educated on legal documents, the law period. Nda's you can't, they don't cover illegal acts, so like you can't say you, you can't ever talk about rape or you, whatever, whatever, you were right in there, it's not that. But for people like Cassie, for his artists, they would just probably sign those shits not knowing the law, not knowing that.
Speaker 3Now I know the law and believe in him and trust in him.
Speaker 1Yeah whatever you yeah, just okay, I'll sign it, as I just won't say shit about them, but it's.
Speaker 3Go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1No, it's just easier said than done.
Speaker 3A lot of those are signed when they are in a good standing, like when the relationship between them is good. So it's like yeah sure, I'll sign this week, I don't be, I don't see nothing for I don't see nothing coming, I don't will be good, I'll sign this shit. That's my friend.
Speaker 1That's what they be doing. That's my friend did he is?
Speaker 3did he's net worth because I looked it up, did he is on the verge of being a billionaire? His net worth, as of Was it November, I think it was November is 900 million. This man has Many, many, many right, and so if they had gone to court, guess who would have had the upper hand? He would have the upper hand because one he has the money and, to the amount of time that's passed, so like as fucked up as it is, the burden of proof is going to be on her side. Yes, it's hard to prove some shit that happened a week ago.
Speaker 3Yes 9, 10, 11, 12 years ago especially in several court. Right. So if they had gone to court, even had gone to trial, he would have had the upper hand. Yes, yes, yes there's no reason not to go to trial if you know you innocent right. You know, this is all just false, false and just bullshit or If you got the resources, the money, what I could believe you out.
Speaker 3You coming to me he could have just drug this shit off for years, yep, and then I also think that's another reason why she accepted the settlement like no victim of any kind of abuse, especially years of abuse, wants to have to sit and relive their shit. Right for months at a time, in front of strangers and officials and in front of the person who did the shit to you, like Nah, bro, just take some accountability. Yeah, now, this is all public record and we did.
Speaker 3And I'm gonna continue on my healing journey. I'm just happy for her.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's dope, I'm happy for it, but all these videos.
Speaker 3All these videos are interviews and shit. This popping up when you're seeing like their body language together. Something's definitely off. Yeah the people had done, who didn't mean no harm, who had no like mal intent. They didn't mean nothing. They was just talking about, you know, situations and things that they see when they was hanging out with DD they didn't think nothing of it. Yeah, now that shit is resurfacing and now you're looking at it and you're like it's very cringe.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I heard a story. I saw this dude on Twitter. He was telling a story how like he was with Wale. I guess he was like Wale's man or something like that. They was in the studio and Wale and Cassie was working on a song and the dude was like chilling in the studio and did he walk? There were like two big bodyguard dudes. Is this? When they hung him out the window? Yeah, and I'm just sitting there like Bro, did he's?
Speaker 3a fucking savage. Hanging short people like wonder he wanted to be the East Coast, should so bad Hang in short niggas out of windows blowing up cars? I really do think that he did that to kill you?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3I really do think he blew up that man's car.
Speaker 1For sure, I know he did.
Speaker 3What I don't think he did, though, because now people are trying to say that he killed Kim, and I'm like uh.
Speaker 1I can. I can see where they're going with it.
Speaker 3I can see probably paid off the corner to say that she died from ammonia.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can see it, because they were all right, natal, all. But right. All of them, so I can see it, I can see it.
Speaker 3Probably got tea. You know who got some tea? Kamora Lee fucking Simmons because her and Kim were best friends. Yes, I bet you, before I got tea but she got beef.
Speaker 1She got beef for Weston and Russ.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's coming out, it's coming out.
Speaker 1She got Russ sitting in Bali doing with his legs crossed Like he can't even come back to the country Back and forth. He can't even come back here, yeah.
Speaker 3So now I don't think he really stopped too much. I think she kind of got the ball rolling. You know, I should snowballs.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3So I think it's going to put other people in a position where now they're like they've seen the outcome of this and they're going to be like you know, let me go ahead and tell y'all my story to.
Speaker 1I think it's going to be our Kelly and yeah. I think it's going to be males.
Speaker 3They talking about usher too.
Speaker 1He had guardianship of usher.
Speaker 3Right, and they say the summer's off, which is why usher mama went and got him and ended up being his manager until he was bump, bump, bump but.
Speaker 1And even though you say that, look, look, look at six, six degrees of separation Did he was with B2K, he was in that song. Who was also with? Is this all fuck them? Yeah, who was also with Chris Stokes? Who will Marion even work with? Who else? The greatest pipe piper of all time are Kelly.
Speaker 3Oh no, it is a saying. What's that saying? A bird's of a feather flock together.
Speaker 1Yes, this is the plot thickens. This shit is getting wild, scary hours.
Speaker 3I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1She's weird.
Speaker 3I always I've always believed that people with a lot of money and I mean like multi-millionaire money, like, like diddy money, like you have to say Jay, because I don't think Jay's. I never want to know Jay's part of this, but like that kind of money.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3They just live like by a different standard. They subscribe to a different kind of religion, they do shit different.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Like what's that damn movie with Tom Cruise and?
Speaker 1I was watching the next day.
Speaker 3I think that's real.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Really, that's how rich people be.
Speaker 1Yeah, vanilla Sky, or was the eyes? Eyes, why? Ok, yeah, yeah, that's just nuts. Now I don't fuck with it. It's kind of like the way House Party, the new House Party, was. Did you see that that shit was? Let me save you the time, don't. But it went into some shit about the Illuminati and they showed like the Illuminati was in it.
Speaker 3Oh, I seen parts of it. I didn't watch it yeah. Please watch it. So OK, I don't remember, I remember.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was like, oh, I kind of get it. But yeah, yeah, I was saying the Illuminati is in control of everything. I don't think, I don't think they'll be in a movie. Let you film in them. And talking about their stuff, hey, come on.
Speaker 3Come on and I have a question.
Speaker 1Did he abstain?
Speaker 3Yes, I was just thinking that, Because I've I've never seen this other girls post is being shared on Facebook and basically in her post she says that there is a price to pay for dating a wealthy man and a lot of times, a lot of times, more often than not, that price is it's usually other women, right Like infidelity. But there are other levels to the cost to date the boss. You know it could be. It could be financial abuse, it could be physical abuse, it could be emotional, Just things happen.
Speaker 3This is another reason why I really believe everything that Cassie had to say. Like when you watch interviews of her and him together, like the way that he looks at her and the way that she almost looks at him as if she's asking for permission to speak and he is almost like he looked, like he's he's giving it to her. But don't say too fucking much. Right, Like bitch, what Like? Please blink. If you need help, Help, Give us a sign, Rub your stomach past your head. Do you need help? And it's sad. It's sad to see, but so Oprah was saying she was basically saying like there is a cost when you want to date wealthy men. A lot of times they will feel like they kind of own you. You're more of a possession to them, Do you? Do you think there's some accuracy to that?
Speaker 1I mean, from what I've seen, yes, I mean, even if we want to take it back to biblical days, yeah, that's pretty much what it was Kings and concubines. They just seen women as possessions and in this world it's like that's who we champion. We champion I've said it on this podcast before. I've got my idea of, like that's why I don't have too many male friends. I got the idea of hanging out with a bunch of women from Diddy, like that's all he did. It was him and Biggie and a bunch of women. That's all I've ever said. I'm like, oh, that shit's lit. That's what I want to do. That's life. But it's really not. It's not realistic. Like I don't have them sitting all in a fucking hot tub. You could just sit there. Yeah, put my way on you. Like, come on, you thirsty. But it's real creep behavior when you look at it. Come here, come here, come here, come here.
Speaker 3It's creep behavior, but in in like I hate to say in like the hip hop community and even in an R&B community. Now it's idolized.
Discussion on Diddy's Exploitation and Influence
Speaker 1It's like oh yeah, I feel like. See, now that I've grown up, though, I feel like this comes from when you don't have or get women, because when you get a surplus of women or when you abundance of women, when you've had interactions with women, you don't treat them like that. You just don't.
Speaker 3No, you just don't.
Speaker 1You don't shake up a bottle of Kristal and pour it in it like blast it in it, but I think Diddy got a man syndrome.
Speaker 3Yeah and now he got all this money. He's got a Napoleon complex and now he has all this money. Yeah, because he's a legit asshole.
Speaker 1Yeah, he is.
Speaker 3Great businessman Fantastic.
Speaker 1Fantastic. Hey, I would love for us to do business With him at some point, but him as a person, I'm cool and I ain't never met the man, but I've never never met him.
Speaker 3I've seen him in the same club, being in Vegas. You know you can see people Right. I've seen him in the same vicinity but I've never met him personally. Just from from what I've seen and I've heard more than enough, I'm not interested.
Speaker 1Yeah, like Diddy is a. He's a character, I'm not A legit character. When I heard about his little sex sex marathon. He went on for like three days, three, four days sex the body.
Speaker 3Wait a minute. He went on Corisha blink twice.
Speaker 1If you need help, this is like a couple of years ago. This was a pre-Corice or Corisha.
Speaker 3I'm sure, but I doubt that he's changed.
Speaker 1Oh, no, no, no, that's why she's okay.
Speaker 3Anything has changed.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And I bet you she set up there and told them people that she liked to be pedo, just because that man be peeing on her. He probably told her to say that.
Speaker 1You smart. You smart For real, Because I have never met a black woman to ever say that it's like whoa, wait a minute.
Speaker 3I With the, with enough money, you can get me to say some shit, money Right. How many zeros is this?
Speaker 1Now he has been wild since, since making the band when he made them men grown men sing for a bed.
Speaker 3Now, bro, he's an asshole. He's an asshole. He's a control freak. He's an asshole. He's definitely a narcissist. Like I said, yeah, and there's a certain level of narcissism which is everybody has it. And it's kind of like okay, it's, as long as it's controlled, it's cool. His is out of control. Out of control, and part of that, I think, comes from the amount of money and and the I don't want to say power, but just the resources that he has or the resource that he is.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3He knows it.
Speaker 1What? What about the talent? Do you think talent plays a part into that?
Speaker 3Who's talented?
Speaker 1Did he? He has a great ear, a great ear for music.
Speaker 3Nick, I got two of them. What? Let me tell you something. Yeah, let me tell you something. It is definitely a talent to be able to have, like you said, a good ear and to be able to recognize someone else's potential, abilities and talent.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 3I get that. That's your depression, counselor Narsis. Part of me does not want to give Diddy that, because he's exploited everybody that he's ever signed.
Speaker 1That's facts.
Speaker 3He's exploited all of them. He didn't until just recently give them a goddamn masters. I still want to know what the fuck shine went to jail for.
Speaker 1I think he took the charge, didn't he?
Speaker 3He took the charge for Diddy, but I want to know the real story. I've always been curious.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 3Lil Kim said when she went to prison that he never even visited her. He didn't write her nothing.
Speaker 1You know making that money. You know what I'm saying. Like, no matter what people say, you got to keep moving on. No matter what people say you got to keep moving on. We're going to act like she didn't make this.
Speaker 3Can we please, can we also act like she ain't a short ass chubby Asian woman. Now you want now why we over here being a Lulu? Oh yeah, $1 million.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know what shine. I don't know, Maybe he got being the president of Belize or whatever. Maybe that's what it was. Hey man, you do this. You could be the president of Belize, a third world country.
Speaker 3I don't know. I just I feel like shine could have gone so far if he had not taken that fucking charge.
Speaker 1How, where Not sounding like Biggie?
Speaker 3No, first of all he sounded like Biggie, with a little less phlegm.
Speaker 1No, that's true.
Speaker 3A little less mucus right up in here, that's true, yeah, I get it. Like Biggie always sounded like he needed to Before he started talking to you. I don't know, I just like shine.
Speaker 1I like shine too.
Speaker 3I'm not saying that he would have like been mega star or whatever.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3But I am saying that I think his career would have made more would have made some advances.
Speaker 1It would have, it wouldn't have stopped after Bonnie and Clyde.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1Because it stopped after Bonnie and Clyde. It was a rap and that song was fire.
Speaker 3I like shine.
Speaker 1Bonnie and Clyde was fire.
Speaker 3He blighted the whole way. I'm hot. Yeah, he got me laughing. I'm trying to after that. Thank you.
Speaker 1Yeah he probably would have made it, because that's the only songs I know I'm not going to be a bad boy. Bonnie and Clyde oh, that's gangster.
Speaker 3You know what I think, I think I think did he recognizes somebody who has, like I said, the potential and has some talent, even just a little bit of talent, and he'll do what he can to exploit it. Yeah, for sure, that's what he can't make, no more money off of it. And that's another thing. That's another reason somebody was asking like, well, how does she come up with that amount? Cassie? Yeah, that nigga stopped her career.
Speaker 3She only had one song, the only half of a song, but keep in mind she's a very pretty girl. Yeah, but if he wouldn't fuck it with it?
Speaker 1Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3Any any sponsors or anything that she could have done. No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not doing nothing, and I do think that he's part of the reason she only had that one song.
Speaker 1Yeah, so 100%. He brought Ryan, leslie and Cassie to Warner Brothers where he was. That's how they got on, that's how they got signed. And then, after he seen her, he was like, oh no, fuck that shit, shave off side of your head and stay in the house.
Speaker 3Mine All around your neck and you walk with your head down and you do what I tell you to do.
Speaker 1And I just lease to this this chair right here.
Speaker 3Don't move. Yeah, I don't know that's, that's his mind.
Speaker 1Did. He does not dance very well. That's the.
Speaker 3I want to. He has to skip and he does in a circle. That's it. Take that, take that. He just goes the same skip in a circle.
Speaker 1Keep changing his name.
Speaker 3And that's another thing I don't understand. But what?
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't get that. I don't get that and I think the greatest. I think the greatest I'm not going to say the greatest, because he's done it with, like you said, with all this, all of his artists. I'm going to say, personally, for me, I was most excited when he had bad boys south and I thought he was legit about to do some shit in the south because he was fucking with eight ball and MJG. He was fucking with boys in the hood he brought he was, he was the one that found GZ, signed GZ first. I'm like, oh shit, like did he doing this thing, jody Breeze? Like I thought this shit was finna be lit and then all of a sudden it just in diddy fashion, nothing.
Speaker 3We're Bentley.
Speaker 1Oh, that's didn't that. Nigga know everything you talk about you. Could you talk about Kamori Lee Simmons dad nigga know. Where he go, he know, he know.
Speaker 3One day he was in and the next day he just what.
Speaker 1I don't know where he get. I think you know what. I think he had a son and he, his son, is that boy. That's just like you smell good. I think that's his son. I legit.
Speaker 3Maybe I don't know. Maybe, yeah, could be. I don't know, but you may be right. I'm sure he's seen a lot of shit.
Speaker 1A lot. He was legit, his assistant legit. It wasn't an act.
Speaker 2He was, he was his assistant, yeah.
Speaker 1He seen a lot, a lot, a lot. He was there for JLo. I don't think he is.
Speaker 3That's another thing I'm curious about, like even though I know JLo was an asshole as well, which is why I'm surprised her and did he didn't work out. I'm also curious to hear what the fuck she might have to say Cause I'm sure she seen some shit. Yeah, cause after that shit that happened in a club that night, it was a wrap for her.
Speaker 1Yeah, she was done, I'm done. Yeah, I can't do that. I'm about to go make enough. I'm about to fight my little dreams out what. And then what did you say? Jiggly, jiggly. Was that been an athlete?
Speaker 3Okay, a lot of people don't like that movie, jiggly, but I actually like it.
Speaker 1I never seen it.
Speaker 3You never seen it.
Speaker 1What is it? I like it.
Speaker 3Um, her, and it's been an athlete, I think it's been an athlete in it. Um, and a little girl. There's a little girl Like it's. I like the movie. I can't really explain it because it's not that interesting. It's not even a lie to you. Um, not the little girl. Um, damn boy, the boy, the little, ooh, not the R boy, but the A boy, cause if I say the R word it's going to be a problem for people. Okay, fine, not the retarded boy. I tried, but he wasn't picking up what I was putting up. I thought you was describing the movie. Yeah, no, cause there's a boy in it and he's kind of like Rain man. Remember Rain man?
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, he's kind of like that.
Speaker 1Oh, it's one of them. It's one of them movies. I like the movie Like radio and powder.
Speaker 3I'm a court. I'm a court, not radio and powder.
Speaker 1You seen powder? Yeah, powder, don't get talked about it. Powder with a lid.
Speaker 3I don't like that movie.
Speaker 1Powder was fucking.
Speaker 3Where are?
Speaker 1where are the albinos Like? Where are they Speaking of powder? See, buddy, J wasn't, I was, I was the same way. I was like R and A, I was, I don't know.
Speaker 3I think the albinos are wherever chicken pox lit Cause neither of those things exist anymore.
Speaker 1Chicken pox was nasty.
Speaker 3But when's the last time you knew somebody said they kid had the chicken pox?
Speaker 1They don't, they should just stop. Yeah, what did it? What did it call that shit? It's a a medical term. When everybody gets vaccinated, it's like the disease is abolished, like everybody builds up.
Speaker 3Here's the thing with chicken pox. Chicken pox is a form of herpes.
Speaker 1Yes, yes, it is.
Speaker 3So if you ever even had the chicken pox, I had the chicken pox three times as a kid.
Speaker 1You call it a damn it.
Speaker 3The third time for it to be like full chicken pox, like my brother had it and my mom tried. You know you have multiple kids. You try and make them get it at the same time. Here's your brother, like you know, go, go, roll around and play with your brother. Catch the disease in the germ your brother got.
Speaker 1Here's a blanket.
Speaker 3This is the one your brother's been drooling on and he's been sleeping with. He's covered in all of his crusty ass scabs. Play with this peacefully and let's pray that you wake up tomorrow in agony Like why would you put that on your child?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3But uh, yeah, so I had it. I had it three times, but because the first two times I had it, I literally the first two times only had like five pox. Oh, Like it wasn't like a full breakout, damn. But the point that I'm making is even if, even if you had the vaccine for the chicken box.
Speaker 1Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3Okay, you can still get the chicken box.
Speaker 1Oh, for sure.
Speaker 3You can still. You can still get herpes. You can still get shingles.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3You can still get all of the things.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3So I still don't understand how, regardless of how many people have been vaccinated how it just disappeared.
Speaker 1You know, it's just, it's a disease that our body. This is what they're saying. I don't know, I'm not a scientist and became immune. Yes, and that's what I was about to say. Bunny J just gave us the word immunity.
Speaker 3Immunity.
Speaker 1Yes, and we just built up that much immunity from it.
Speaker 2So I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't believe there was dinosaurs, so I can't believe in this. You don't believe in dinosaurs? No,
