Satisfaction Factor

#52 - A Very Special Anniversary Episode!

September 21, 2022 Naomi Katz & Sadie Simpson
Satisfaction Factor
#52 - A Very Special Anniversary Episode!
Show Notes Transcript

This week, we're celebrating our one year podcast-iversary & making some big announcements! We're looking back on the experience of our first year of podcasting, including our favorite things about doing the podcast, our favorite guests, the biggest surprises, what we've learned, our biggest struggles, and what we're looking forward for the year to come. This is a really fun, casual episode that we had so much fun recording!

Plus, we've got big podcast news! Starting this week, we're switching to an every-other-week release schedule, for one thing. But we're also opening up our online community, The Satisfaction Space! Enrollment opens to the waitlist today, and will open to the public on 9/28 (one week later). But you can still join the waitlist & be one of the first to join by clicking here!

You can stay up to date on all things Satisfaction Factor by following us on Instagram @satisfactionfactorpod!

Here's where to find us:
Sadie Simpson: www.sadiesimpson.com or IG @sadiemsimpson
Naomi Katz: www.happyshapes.co or IG @happyshapesnaomi

Full episode transcript available at satisfactionfactorpod.com.

Naomi Katz:

Welcome to Satisfaction Factor, the podcast where we explore how ditching diet culture makes our whole lives more satisfying. Welcome back to Satisfaction Factor. I'm Naomi Katz, an Intuitive Eating, body image, and self trust coach.

Sadie Simpson:

I'm Sadie Simpson, a group fitness instructor, personal trainer, and Intuitive Eating counselor. This week marks a very special Satisfaction Factor episode for

Naomi Katz:

oh my god, I love that that sounds like it's an after school special, very special episode of satisfaction factor. Well, it

Sadie Simpson:

is very special because it's our one year podcast aversary. Sound effects go in here. I don't know if I can even figure out how to do that when editing this. But anyway, it's hard to believe that we have been going at this thing for a whole entire year.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, it blows my mind.

Sadie Simpson:

I mean, we have been releasing a new episode every single week for the last 52 weeks. And I am just really proud of us. So goatee.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, I'm really proud of us too. Good job, Sadie.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah. Good job, Naomi. So for this special anniversary episode, we wanted to do something just a little bit different. Instead of having a topic like we normally have specifically about intuitive eating or body image or movement, and exercise, we are going to do a year in review. So we're not only going to talk about what it's been like for us to host and produce and write, and edit and market and learn how to make a podcast. But we're also going to share more about some exciting changes we've got coming up in the second year of the satisfaction factor.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, it's exciting. It's all really good, exciting stuff for sure. Yes, yes. So starting today, with our 52nd episode, we are going to be shifting into an every other week podcast release schedule. We have been cranking out new episodes every single week for the last year. And we've decided that going into the second year, we need to make some shifts, so that we can create more time and energy for doing something that is of high value for both of us. And something we're really excited about building a satisfaction factor podcast community,

Sadie Simpson:

yay community.

Naomi Katz:

For the last year, we've been mostly talking to each other with a couple of amazing guests coming on the podcast to and that's been great. We definitely love talking to each other. And we want to talk to you too. We want to extend this conversation beyond just the two of us talking to each other every week and really open it up to create a space for others to join in as well.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, so what exactly does this mean, you might be wondering out there in podcast land. For starters, there won't be a new episode release next Wednesday, the next episode will come out on October 5. Of course, we have an entire year's worth of past episodes, you can always go back and listen to maybe for the first time if you're new around here or to re listen to if you need a little refresher from the last year. So again, the next episode will be out on Wednesday, October 5 2022. And as far as creating a community and extending this conversation, let's talk a little bit about what that looks like. Yeah.

Naomi Katz:

In addition to our free podcast episodes, every other week, we are going to be releasing some very fun bonus content within our new satisfaction factor community which we're calling this satisfaction space. Yes.

Sadie Simpson:

So the satisfaction space is a brand new online community that we're opening up to invite you the listeners to dive deeper into the work of disengaging from diet culture, with us and with other people.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, so we talk pretty often on here about the importance of building community in a way that's in alignment with our values. But that also can sometimes be really hard to do in real life and we definitely recognize that but the Internet can be a great place to meet other people who share a similar value system have similar interests and are working towards similar goals like ditching diet culture. I mean, that's how we met. Right? Yep. Thank you internet.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes. For the last few episodes, we've been talking a little bit about this community and have mentioned the waitlist. And if you are one of those people who has signed up for the waitlist and you are ready to sign up for the satisfaction space, you can do that. Starting today, we are officially open for the folks on the waitlist. And if you sign up early, then you get a fun prize in the mail from us.

Naomi Katz:

Everybody loves some good snail mail, right? Yeah. So yeah, waitlist, make sure you check your email, because you should have an email that will have the link for you to be able to sign up and sign up opens to the public on September 28. So that is one week from today. Yes. So what is this community? Right? Like? What are what is it? I'm going to find in the satisfaction space? Well, first off, it is a private virtual community, not on Facebook.

Sadie Simpson:

Thank goodness,

Naomi Katz:

right, let's let's step away from Facebook as much as possible. Basically, if you ever find yourself listening to the podcast and wanting to add something to the conversation, or ask a question or anything like that, this is a place where you can do exactly that. Which I don't know about you. But every time I listen to podcasts, I totally talk to the people on the podcast, like I'm part of it. And for sure, yeah, having a space where you can actually do that sounds really good to me.

Sadie Simpson:

Seriously, and since we're only going to be releasing podcast every other week, on the off weeks, we're going to be releasing exclusive bonus content right there in the community. So it's like an extension of the podcast. So that way, if you enjoy hearing us talk every week, you will still get the opportunity to do that within the satisfaction space.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, and, you know, it's not necessarily going to be a full podcast episode bonus every week. But it might be shorter bits of content, it might be q&a Is it might be like other different kinds of things that will just help you get a little dose of the satisfaction factor in between episodes. Yeah, plus, we are planning on doing monthly hangouts within the space. And again, you know, that might look like different things depending on what people want. But we're thinking, live chats with us mini group coaching and things like that, that people within the space will have access to monthly.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah. And something that we've kind of tossed around that is not officially going to be included. But maybe down the road is maybe even hosting some in person events, especially if we have some local folks who join the satisfaction space or you know, people are down for a little vacation to Asheville, a little mini trip, maybe we'll have some in person events down the road.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, that would be so fun, you know. And then of course, the big thing is that you will have like a community feed, where you can post your comments and questions and you can get feedback from fellow community members and us.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes, I love that so much. Because not only do we get the opportunity to interact with our listeners, but the listeners get the chance to interact with each other and potentially make some connections make some friends like I'm really pumped about this.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, I love that part of it too. I think one of the things that I really learned within, like the nourish and bloom courses that I run is that people get a lot of benefit from talking to each other, not just getting feedback from professionals but being able to have these like parallel conversations with people who are like at the same place as them and working through things together and stuff like that, that that's a really a valuable thing.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes,

Naomi Katz:

this is a paid community. It is very important to us to make this podcast sustainable and in case you hadn't picked up on it. It's a lot of work really to run this podcast and we want to make it financially accessible to people membership to the satisfaction space will be a $10 a month. It is a monthly membership that you can cancel at any time

Sadie Simpson:

and receive some pretty low cost question and answer sessions many coaching sessions when we have these monthly virtual live hangs because up until now, you and I have both offered one on one coaching services whether that intuitive eating coaching or personal training, which is pretty hot calls for that one on one high touch connection. And we've both offered moderately priced group coaching programs. And I feel like this is a great opportunity for folks who may have wanted a little more in depth work, and just access to coaching and access to a community. This is a much more

Naomi Katz:

affordable option. Yeah, absolutely.

Sadie Simpson:

And people ask us pretty regularly how they can support us. This is one of the ways that if you've really found a lot of value in this podcast, and you've really enjoyed it, you can support us by joining the satisfaction space.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, absolutely. And also get support by

Sadie Simpson:

I love it. mutual support.

Naomi Katz:

Awesome. So again, waitlist, check your emails for that link to sign up for the satisfaction space. And if you are not on the waitlist, then check our socials on Wednesday, September 28, for the public link to sign up and join as well.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah. All right. So let's shift gears a little bit. We've talked about the new and exciting satisfaction space. Let's do this year and review. Let's talk a little bit about what it's been like to have a podcast for an entire year.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, we looked forward. Now. Let's look back. CT, what has been your favorite thing about doing this podcast for the past year?

Sadie Simpson:

Oh, my gosh, I have a lot of favorite things. But I think my favorite thing, honestly has just been hanging out every week to record this has been a fun time. And I really enjoy having the space for us to candidly talk about topics that are important to both of us. And I just think it's really cool. And it's a very fun bonus that other people also actually care about what we're saying. And they're interested into digging into these types of topics. It's just been a really fun experience.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, totally. I am. I always think it was so funny. There was one time where we kind of we had gotten ahead. And so we had like a little break and recording. I think we've done like one week without talking. And you sent me an Instagram DM that was like I feel like I haven't talked to you and to hear that it was very relatable and that like consistent hangout thing has definitely been one of my favorite things as well.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, well, it is interesting. And folks probably don't realize this unless they've recorded a podcast. But sometimes we'll go through phases where we batch record a couple of episodes in a week, if we know we're going to be out of town or things are going to be coming up and we can't record every week. And I don't know, it's just really interesting. Whenever we like record two or three episodes in a week, it feels like so much. But then when we have these off weeks, I'm like, Oh, who am I going to talk to this week? This is weird. Yeah.

Naomi Katz:

Totally it Well, I think the other thing that people probably don't know is that, okay, so at the end of this, we might have an episode that's anywhere from like, 40 minutes to an hour, but we usually are talking to each other for at least two hours. Which reminds me of like when I was in high school, and I'm like marathon phone calls?

Sadie Simpson:

Oh my gosh, yes. You know, I haven't even thought about this. But this is probably the most that I've talked to an individual outside of my family in like yours, like talking on the phone to a friend. I mean, since high school probably this is. We're High School phone chat buddies now.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, I have, I have one friend who like every month or two, we get on the phone to catch up because she doesn't live locally. And we'll talk for like a couple of hours at a time. But that's like, once every month or so, like all the time so I'm totally right there with you.

Sadie Simpson:

What about you? What's been your favorite thing about doing the podcast? Honestly,

Naomi Katz:

I mean, obviously hanging out with you definitely. But also just like all the awesome feedback we've gotten from folks who listen, like, I especially have really, really loved hearing from, like the local community and local professionals who like actually refer their clients to us as a resource, which like blows my mind a little bit. Yeah, that that has been really, really cool. Both because I mean, it feels awesome to like have that kind of feedback, but also because it's kind of opened some doors to having more community locally around this stuff, meeting more locals than maybe I knew before we started this podcast and stuff and so that's been really cool.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, totally agree. So who has been your favorite guests? We've talked to you over the last year.

Naomi Katz:

Um, there is no chance in hell But I can pick a single. I have genuinely loved every single person we've gotten to talk to. I think mostly I've really, really loved getting to like, quote unquote, meet some of my internet acquaintances and friends, like outside of Instagram for like a full length conversation, not just like little DMS here and there and stuff like that. It's been really cool to like actually get to really fully interact with people that I've known online for quite some time at this point.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, totally agree. I don't think I could pick just one. Because it has been really cool to meet people, even though it's been via zoom. But I consider that to be meeting someone. People that we have known on the internet for a long time and just have like a for real conversation. It's very, very, very nice to be able to do that.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, totally. Just like that face to face interaction is like a totally different thing, even if it's through a computer screen. Yes. What would you say is the biggest thing that has surprised you about doing this podcast for the past year.

Sadie Simpson:

So I think I have two things. One, you already mentioned this earlier. But the response from our local community has been really surprising to me, some local therapists, and nutritionists, and dietitians and pry other practitioners of different fields. That's just been really surprising to me, specifically, local Asheville providers, but even other folks throughout the state and even throughout the country that have used us as a resource. Like, that's just been really surprising and really cool. But the other surprise, is the whole editing aspect of this podcast, there's been lots of surprises in that one, I was surprised that I like really liked it. So there are for sure, some weeks when I'm like, I have to sit down and do this. Because I mean, it's a job, it is a task for sure. But then when I get started and get in there and start working on it, I feel like I really like it, because it makes me focus on just one thing, and not get distracted by my phone or by the TV or by just all the other things. And it just feels really good for my brain to focus on one thing for a little while. And I really like that. And that surprises me

Naomi Katz:

who loves that it feels good for your brain.

Sadie Simpson:

It is good for my brain.

Naomi Katz:

Well, I personally am very, very grateful that you actually like doing the audio editing because I cannot Speaking of things that feel good for your brain, it does not feel good for my brain. I have tried doing some audio editing for like a very short little things that barely needed any editing, honestly. And I thought my brain was gonna break. cannot do it. So I am extraordinarily grateful for you.

Sadie Simpson:

Awesome, well, I'm happy to do it. What's been the biggest surprise for you,

Naomi Katz:

other than the fact that people actually listened to us, because I feel like that's part of it. But how much work this is honestly. Like, obviously, I knew there was going to be work. I mean, even just when we were planning this, how much work went into, like getting off the ground, and like how much research we had to do before we started. So like, I obviously had like some idea that this was going to be work. But I don't think I really understood how much goes into podcasts behind the scenes to make them sound good to keep them consistent to promote them. To make them accessible with transcripts, we use an auto transcription service, and it does like a decent job, but it still needs to be edited. And like just editing that transcript takes like hours. I think that's been a surprise. For me. It's just like the sheer amount of time and work that goes in behind the scenes of podcasts. And like now, every time I'm listening to a podcast, like I can't help but think about like, Oh my God, I know how much work went into.

Sadie Simpson:

Oh my gosh, I know, some of these bigger name podcasts. Obviously they have paid people that do the editing and the marketing and the transcripts and stuff like that. Like we don't and it really is a lot of work for two people. So yeah,

Naomi Katz:

yeah, totally. I fully understand why that's usually something that people like as soon as they start seeing any income from the podcast that like the first thing they do is start outsourcing some of that stuff. Yeah, like that fully makes sense to me now.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes. So what's something that you've learned over the last year?

Naomi Katz:

That I am a wordy bitch which is a phrasing that I love. I like I think I said that to you at one point. Yes ago and I made myself laugh so hard that that is now like officially a personality trait that I say that I have. It's funny, like I can remember in elementary school getting report cards that said I talked too much. And I guess I think I still did that. But here we are. Here we are. Apparently something is do not so much change. Seriously, though, I kind of mentioned this very briefly. In our episode with Elizabeth Watkins price. I feel like I basically learned that, even though I sometimes feel like I don't know anything, or I don't have anything new to say, or I don't have anything to say at all, like I actually do know stuff and have stuff to say about these topics. And I think all in all, it's made me like a lot more confident about how I talk about the work that we do and the issues that we deal with. Yeah,

Sadie Simpson:

I love that.

Naomi Katz:

What about you, what's something you've learned

Sadie Simpson:

kind of similarly, but I have learned, I knew that I said things like, like, and um, and things like that. That's interesting. Like these filler words like stuff you're aware of, whenever you take a communications class, or a public speaking class in high school, or college or whatever. But man, you just never realize how much you say stuff until you edit your words on a freaking podcast. And I haven't shared this with you before, I've been waiting for the right moment to share it. But I'll tell you the story now. So it was probably a month or two ago. So see there, I set it again. So I won't edit it out just for the sake that you know, we say things like so. And like a lot. But anyway, I was sitting on the couch editing this podcast a couple of months ago. And it was one where both of us had no less than 5 million likes and thumbs and sews and things like that. And it was towards the end, like getting towards the end of editing it. You said. And just out of nowhere, I said Naomi, don't say that again. It taught me my kid was sitting right beside me. And he just thought that was the funniest thing because I'm sitting here listening to my headphones. So I'm the only person that can hear it. Nobody else knows what's happening. And he just looks over at me and he knows Naomi. And from that point on, sometimes he'll just jump on the couch, and like jump from one cushion to the other and yell Naomi.

Naomi Katz:

This is one of my favorite stories, time.

Sadie Simpson:

Oh my god. But in all seriousness, overall, like learning how to make a podcast has been a huge learning experience in and of itself. We are both self taught here. I know you did a little mini email subscription course of like how to do a podcast. But both of us have mostly just basically learn by Googling, looking up stuff on YouTube, and just figuring this stuff out on the fly. And I feel like we have learned a lot of valuable technical skills and communication skills throughout this whole entire process. Yeah,

Naomi Katz:

I could not agree more like, honestly, even just the whole experience of kind of figuring it out on the fly and like not like Yeah, I did join, like community that was supposed to teach me how to do podcasts. And it did not teach me anything. So like I don't really feel like I learned how to do it from that I really feel like it was entirely just researching and winging it and like trial and error and stuff like that. And like Yeah, I think we've learned a lot of valuable technical and communication skills. I also feel like there's something there about just our inherent capability. And like how we are able to just figure our way through things. It's like we don't need somebody to tell us how to do it. We can just figure it out and make it work and like that feels like a really cool will exercise and lesson within this also,

Sadie Simpson:

oh my gosh, you're kind of bringing tears to my eyes because I feel like all of what you just said is a huge metaphor for what this podcast is all about anyway, like this inherently knowing and figuring it out and researching and trial and error and seeing what works and what doesn't work. Like. That's just what it's all about anyway, and the production of this podcast is a perfect example of that. Yeah, absolutely.

Naomi Katz:

And I can't help but wonder then the fact that we even did this podcast is like a demonstration of like, I don't know that I would be here doing this with you if I hadn't done all the work to ditch dieting and diet culture, and like all of that stuff to like that doing all of that work. Made it to where I felt confident enough and capable enough to undertake this in the first place.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, yeah.

Naomi Katz:

Do you feel like that too?

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, for sure. I'm scared to say, and you are already bitch, and you need an outlet to get your?

Naomi Katz:

I mean, yes. But here's the thing. I accept myself. Am a wordy bitch, and I am fine with that. I accept it. I know myself. I don't feel like I need to change it.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes.

Naomi Katz:

What about struggles? What do you feel like has been the biggest struggle for you?

Sadie Simpson:

I think my biggest struggle has just been this constant feeling of never getting caught up. Which I think that's also pretty reflective of just life in my

Naomi Katz:

God. Yes. Oh, yes.

Sadie Simpson:

Like, personally, and you know, this about me, and probably a lot of the folks who are listening to this, by this point, know this about me, I like to get ahead of things I like for things to be planned and organized. And I like to have the time to mindfully create social media posts and just get stuff done sort of ahead of time versus feeling oh, crap, I need to get this done. I need to check this box so we can move on to the next thing. So I'm excited for this shift into every other week, because I think this is going to create some space for us. To one not feel like we're just constantly like chasing this hamster wheel and getting caught up. But it will give us some time to focus on things like marketing and just other outlets to help promote the podcast a little more. Yeah, totally.

Naomi Katz:

Oh, my God, just the life of a content creator, right, like, that's because I totally feel like I have been on that hamster wheel for like a long time. And especially because I am not a planner, I'm definitely more of a like, winging it by the seat of my pants type of a person, even when it comes to like content creation and stuff like that. But in the past, I haven't had the strictest schedule about it. It's one thing to have like, Okay, this is when I'm launching a thing like a few times a year and like also I have open enrollment for this thing. And I used to talk about that regularly. And it like just bigger things like that. It's another thing to have like, every single week, we have this thing that needs these specific things and like trying to like wing that is a lot harder. And just it definitely feels a lot more like you're chasing something.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes, for sure. What about you? What else have you struggled with?

Naomi Katz:

Well, I think it's very similar, but like coming up with ideas for episodes. Like it is so hard to think of something new to talk about every week. It is and you know, the thing is, there's a million things to talk about within this like greater topic of diet culture and ditching diet, culture and intuitive eating and all of that stuff. But I think that sometimes it's really hard to come up with like, narrow enough versions of it to talk about in a single podcast episode without being redundant. And like, I don't know, it's just it's it's a lot to try and come up with like, topics that work for a podcast episode every single week.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, yeah. Well, and just a fun little insider. bit of information that folks probably don't realize who are listening to this. There have been many weeks where one of us will message the other one on like a Tuesday night when we are recording a Wednesday saying what are we talking about tomorrow? What is the episode going to be about?

Naomi Katz:

That hamster wheel? Oh is just right up against the deadline.

Sadie Simpson:

And that doesn't happen every week. But on occasion it does happen.

Naomi Katz:

Definitely. Sometimes we're like, oh, we have all these great ideas. I think what it really is, is when we haven't had an opportunity to meet in person and plan for a while, then like topics get away from us. And we end up at that like the night before, what are we going to talk about, but when we have like been able to meet up in person and like do a planning session, we usually have a couple of months of content planned out after that. So that's definitely a big part of it.

Sadie Simpson:

Have you experienced any unexpected benefits of doing this podcast for the last year?

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, getting to know you better? Honestly, you know, we became friends and started this podcast through a time when, like, face to face interactions are still pretty sporadic. And so like, it was kind of hard to make new, real friendships. You know, you could make acquaintances, and people who like you even eventually could get to be real friends with but like, it's just really hard to build a friendship when you're not actually spending time together, especially not face to face. And so kind of as a cool byproduct of this podcast, it's given us a chance to like, actually grow our friendship in a more genuine way.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, oh, my gosh, that is cool. It's weird to think about, like, I never really would have expected, like, I know stuff about your family and your pets now. And we have learned that kind of thing from each other through recording this podcast,

Naomi Katz:

totally like, and even just things about, like, personality wise, but yeah, definitely, like families and pets. And like the things that are going on in your life, today. Like just the kind of stuff that you learn about friends, but not if you only see them once every few months, or if you only connect through Instagram, DMS or something like that.

Sadie Simpson:

Or, again, if you are in high school in the 90s, and talk to them on the phone, which doesn't happen anymore.

Naomi Katz:

You know, we talk a lot about how it's hard to make friends like real real friends as an adult. And I wonder if that's part of it that like, maybe when you're an adult, you don't have as much of an outlet or as much time to just like, talk to the people that you're making friends with just about, like, the shit that's going on in your life and in your day and stuff like that. And like also about more important stuff. But even just like the little stuff, we just don't do that.

Sadie Simpson:

Yeah, so true.

Naomi Katz:

What about you? What kind of like unexpected benefit do you feel like you've gotten from the podcast,

Sadie Simpson:

in addition to us becoming friends and hanging out every week? A another thing that kind of surprised me a little bit was how often I share specific episodes of this podcast with people, especially now, oddly enough, whenever we started this podcast, around the same time, I also restarted seeing clients one on one in a personal training setting. And specific episodes of this podcast have really come up a lot during those one on one sessions. Because sometimes when a client brings up something that's kind of adjacent or similar to something we've talked about, I'm like, hey, check out this episode, this can kind of expand this conversation a little more. And then you know, if you have any questions about it, we can talk about it next time. So that kind of surprised me how often like I share this, specifically with people one on one.

Naomi Katz:

Yeah, that's awesome. And I love that. And I guess I kind of do that, too. If anything. What's funny is I feel like I have clients mentioned our podcasts to me more often than I refer them to a specific podcast episode, which is kind of like a funny way, but it's still I think, serves the same purpose where like, then we can talk about

Sadie Simpson:

it. Alright, so what are you most excited about for the next year?

Naomi Katz:

I mean, I'm excited about all of it. I'm super excited about the satisfaction space. I'm excited about that community and just like seeing how that might grow, and just the connections that might come from that. And just all of that I'm excited about starting to bring on new guests. Like I know, we both already have like lists of people to be like reaching out to for new episodes and stuff. And just like continuing to see how this grows. Yeah, but about you

Sadie Simpson:

instead of saying exactly the same thing you just said because I felt like that would also have been my answer. I'm going to share a goal I have for us in the next year. Ooh, yes, please. And that is for us to record at least one episode together in for So, yeah, we have not done that yet.

Naomi Katz:

Um, I think that's an awesome goal and would be super fun to actually do.

Sadie Simpson:

So maybe if I say it here, we'll actually do it at some point someday.

Naomi Katz:

Totally. It's like it's on both of our radar now as like something to plan for. So, yeah, I can actually make it happen. Awesome. I love that. Well, it's been a pretty awesome year all.

Sadie Simpson:

It really has been. We've done a lot of cool things over the last year. Give us we totally

Naomi Katz:

have go us. And of course, thank all of you for being here with us for this year for listening for sending us your feedback for sending us podcast topics when we're stumped. For all of those things. We have really really loved sharing this space with you. And we really look forward to sharing the satisfaction space with you.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes. All right, Naomi. What's satisfying for you right now.

Naomi Katz:

So I'm not sure if I've mentioned this on the podcast before. I'm a huge Neil Gaiman fan. And in particular, I am a huge fan of his comic book series, The Sandman. Like, I have four tattoos, and two of them are related to the Sandman comic book series. So like, just to give you an idea of how seriously I take this. And they just released the first season of The Sandman series on Netflix. This is a thing that has literally been in the works for like 30 years, I think, because it's so loved. And I think because Neil Gaiman himself, like really loves this content so much, and all of that it's always been like start, stop, start stop, like artistic differences, like all these reasons why it hasn't been able to move forward. And so they finally did it. And Neil Gaiman has been like super, super involved, and like every aspect of it. And I have to say, I was like, really nervous. I was like, incredibly excited about it. But I was also so nervous about it, because I like, cherish and love this content so much that like, I was afraid it wasn't going to live up to my love for it. It is a masterpiece. I have never in my life seen such a perfect representation of what the written content is very true to the story. But it's also been updated in places and like, it just the casting is like super inclusive, which really goes with the story. Like, you know, the story came out in the late 80s, early 90s. So it wasn't, I mean, honestly, for the time, it was probably pretty inclusive, but like, even more so now to really reflect so like it's, it's what it would be if it was written today, kind of if that makes sense. Yeah, I've loved it so much that I actually did not binge watch it. Like I loved it so much that I only allowed myself to watch an episode or two at a time.

Sadie Simpson:

So that is some restraint there,

Naomi Katz:

right so that I could like savor it and draw it out. And I finally finished it, and I just Oh my god, I have definitely been a wordy bitch about explaining this, but it's just because I'm like, overwhelmed with how amazing it was.

Sadie Simpson:

Oh my gosh, I'm gonna have to check it out.

Naomi Katz:

Highly recommend, for that matter, highly recommend the comic book series because it is friggin fantastic. But if you're not into that, the again like the Netflix series is like real true to the graphic novel series. So

Sadie Simpson:

nice.

Naomi Katz:

What about you what's satisfying for you?

Sadie Simpson:

So when I was in high school, one summer, my sisters and I got really, really into Dance Dance Revolution. Like we went to Gamestop and we bought a used PlayStation and the dance pads. And we spent literally like all summer every day all day playing this dance revolution. And then like back in the day to that's when it was really big and they would have the setups and arcades at the mall and places like that. Sometimes we would go to the mall and play it but we were never like the pros you would see at the mall. We were just there for casual fun. And I hadn't thought about Dance Dance Revolution. I don't know like 1213 1415 years however long ago it was when it was out probably longer than that. Like maybe 20 years. I don't even know what year it is anymore. My kid was watching some Cartoon and they had a cartoon version of some kind of dance video game very similar to Dance Dance Revolution. And he was like super into it. So I pulled up some old DVR songs on YouTube. And they have like the screen captures of the actual game. So technically you can kind of play along with it. through YouTube, you're not earning points or anything. You can do the dance dance with other YouTube. And my kid is super into it. I'm now super really into it. And we have been playing fake Dave's Dave's revolution on YouTube every day for like the last two weeks. So much so that we're gonna go find it. I know that the retro arcade in Nashville has it my sister my older sister said places like Chucky Cheese might have it but uh, but yeah, we gotta go find a some real life Dance Dance Revolution to expose my five year old to very, very soon.

Naomi Katz:

I think this is the coolest thing ever. Also, I had the like privilege of seeing Sadie teach and aqua Zumba class over this past weekend. And I feel like the DDR skill translated to the Zumba skill.

Sadie Simpson:

Oh my gosh, yes, that makes so much sense.

Naomi Katz:

Yes, but I think that's awesome. And also, I really think that we should go to the retro K together and you should teach me how to play VR because I've always wanted to and then too, like, I get frustrated too quickly and whatever. And so I think that we should make a DVR date.

Sadie Simpson:

Let's do it.

Naomi Katz:

Well, if you have enjoyed this podcast and you would like to get in touch with us. First of all, I highly recommend checking out the satisfaction space and seeing if that is a community that you would like to be a part of, but if not, you can also get in touch with us over on our Instagram at satisfaction factor pod

Sadie Simpson:

and if you're listening in Apple or Spotify and you would like to support us, go ahead and leave us a rating and review there because those ratings and reviews are what helps boost us up in the podcast ranking which allows us to reach more people.

Naomi Katz:

It would also just be a lovely podcast birthday present.

Sadie Simpson:

Yes it would.

Naomi Katz:

That's it for us this week. We will catch you in two weeks.