Satisfaction Factor
Satisfaction Factor
#100 - An Intuitive & Satisfying Ending
Can we truly say goodbye when the journey has been this fulfilling? As we celebrate our 100th episode of the Satisfaction Factor podcast, we look back with pride and gratitude on three transformative years of meaningful conversations about body liberation and the relentless dismantling of diet culture. We've reached a point where our personal and professional lives have evolved, and the time feels right to conclude this chapter. We've always believed in the power of an "intuitive ending," and it’s with this philosophy that we embrace this transition, knowing we've achieved our original aspirations.
Podcasting has been a voyage of unexpected joys, surprises, and deep connections. Our listeners have joined us in this enriching exploration, and we've cherished every moment of learning together.
As we wrap up this journey, we fondly reminisce about our favorite episodes and the humor found in even the harshest one-star reviews. Your feedback has been invaluable, and we encourage you to continue engaging with us through our social media channels and websites. Though this is a farewell to the podcast, the connection we've built is far from over. Thank you for riding with us on this incredible journey; your unwavering support has truly been the satisfaction factor in this adventure.
Stay in touch with the pod on IG @satisfactionfactorpod!
And here's where you can continue to find us:
Sadie Simpson: www.sadiesimpson.com or IG @sadiemsimpson
Naomi Katz: www.happyshapes.co or IG @happyshapesnaomi
Welcome to Satisfaction Factor, the podcast where we explore how ditching diet culture makes our whole lives more satisfying. Welcome back one last time to Satisfaction Factor. I'm Naomi Katz, an intuitive eating and body image coach.
Speaker 2:I'm Sadie Simpson, a group fitness instructor and a personal trainer. Before we dig into this week's episode, just a reminder. If you'd like to support the show, we have merch. We have a handful of designs on TeePublic that can be printed as stickers, t-shirts, sweatshirts, mugs, tote bags and whatever else you like. T-shirts and sweatshirts come into sizes up to 5X and you can check that out at the link in our show notes.
Speaker 1:Also just a reminder that if you are looking for some support in your anti-diet and intuitive eating work, I've got availability for all of my coaching options. You can get all the information about my one-to-one coaching or my mindset reset calls, which are individual pay what you can calls or my 40 week group coaching program at my website, happyshapesco, and you can find all of those options under the work with me tab.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the 100th and final episode of Satisfaction Factor.
Speaker 1:Oh my, God, and final episode of Satisfaction Factor. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:So weird to say that it totally is. It is so weird. It is hard to believe we have reached this milestone and it's hard to say that it is going to be our very last episode. It's very bittersweet for both of us.
Speaker 2:I think Absolutely, and for the past three years we've had such a privilege of diving deep into meaningful conversations, not only with each other, but with all of you and some really amazing guests, about body liberation, rejecting diet culture and finding satisfaction with food and movement. So today, as we celebrate this big, momentous occasion, we are going to be reflecting on this journey and all of the amazing people who have been a part of it, including every one of you. So we're closing this chapter with gratitude, with joy and with so much love for the community that we have built over the last three years. We have built over the last three years, so we're excited to have you all join us one last time as we look back and share some of our biggest takeaways and say goodbye in a way that honors everything that satisfaction factor has been all about.
Speaker 1:So bittersweet, it's so bittersweet yeah it is.
Speaker 2:So one of the big questions that folks have asked us when they find out that we are wrapping up the podcast is why are we ending it? And I mean that's a very valid question.
Speaker 1:Such a valid question. I'm super nosy. I would want to know too. Oh my God, Anytime I see somebody like ending something publicly, I'm like, ooh, why are they ending it? Sadly, there's nothing juicy to this part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sadly for you, but good for us.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, sadly for listeners and lovers of drama, but good for us, yeah.
Speaker 2:Honestly, it's just time. We've been doing this podcast for three years and we feel like we've really accomplished what we set out to do when we first started. Our goal was to have important, meaningful conversations about how dishing, diet culture makes our whole lives more satisfying, and we have had a lot of those conversations. We have connected with a lot of incredible guests that have shared their stories and their ideas, and they've made a huge difference for us, so hopefully, they have made a huge difference for all of our listeners too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely I love. I love how you put that too that like we just we've accomplished what, like it's. We did what we wanted to do, and so that's, that's it.
Speaker 2:That feels like really cool. Honestly like how often do you like actually get to like see something through that like checks a box? Like we all know, I like to check a box around here, like like we started this thing and we saw it through. Like we all know, I like to check a box around here, like like we started this thing and we saw it through, until we're like, okay, this is it, we are done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, it has felt very good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so over these three years of doing the podcast we've had lots of big conversations and during that time our lives and our work has also evolved. So things have changed for both of us in a lot of ways, I think, and with those changes I feel like it became harder and harder to make the time to record this podcast and, like you and I know this and maybe other folks who have done something like a podcast understand this but I think a lot of people don't realize how much time and energy it takes to create a podcast.
Speaker 2:Truly, I mean, I definitely did not know that going into this Me either Me either, and I mean it's not just sitting down and like pressing a button and recording and talking, like it is a lot of planning, there is a lot of editing, there is a lot of marketing, which, if we're being really honest, neither of us really loved doing the marketing part, like the thought of making like Instagram posts, like sometimes it just gives me like, it just makes me cringe a little bit. It's what you have to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's hard, especially because you and I both have other social media accounts that we have to be managing and doing marketing for and stuff like that, and so it just like I think neither of us ever really fully had the energy to devote to marketing the podcast through especially through social media and like that's hard.
Speaker 2:It's so hard. I think that is a very accurate statement. So between all of that the way our work is shifting, the way our lives are shifting we realize that this just isn't something that fits as easily into our lives anymore, and that's okay. We feel really good about the conversations that we've had and just the time and the work and the love that we've put into this podcast up until this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely so. It's interesting A client recently brought up to me this concept of intuitive ending. What Right Like? Basically just like knowing when you're ready to move on from something and then honoring that.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 1:Right, Me too. I had a little like like mind blown moment when she first said it to me and because I'd never really thought about it that way. But I think that one that's an incredibly important skill and, at least speaking for myself, definitely one that I could stand to work on more.
Speaker 2:And so we all probably could, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I've been like I've been thinking about this ever since she said it and just kind of like, huh, where does this fit in my life in other ways? And two, I think that's totally what this is Like, which means that obviously there's like a sadness to wrapping up this three year project and all of that, but mostly it just feels really good and really right to do that right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love the idea of an intuitive ending and I feel like that's definitely something I'll take with me into other areas as well. That is like the smartest thing I've ever heard. I love it so much. Agreed. So, as we were preparing for this episode, one of the things that I thought might be fun is to share some stats and facts about the podcast, because if you're like a numbers person or a stats person, it feels really cool to know, like, who's listening to the podcast and what are our most favorite and most listened to and most popular episodes. So I'm going to share some fun and exciting facts about the satisfaction factor.
Speaker 1:I love this, by the way, because I would occasionally check our stats, like during the course of the podcast, but I mostly didn't because I don't know. I'm just like, not a numbers person. I like to live on vibes. I need some data and some numbers to back it up. So like it's interesting because like I didn't even know most of these stats until I saw them in the notes and it was. I was excited about them, so I hope everybody else is too. That is so awesome.
Speaker 2:So we have had listeners from six continents, but none from Antarctica.
Speaker 1:Oh, the penguins didn't want to listen to the podcast. They did not continents, but none from Antarctica. Oh, the penguins didn't want to listen to the podcast.
Speaker 2:81% of our listeners are from the United States, 4% are from Canada, 3% are from the UK and the rest are like zero to 2% are from 82 other countries, 82 other countries.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if this like translates on podcasts into other languages, like I don't know how that works, but that's so interesting. Yeah, pretty cool. A large percentage of our listeners are from western north carolina and other places throughout the state of north carolina, which is cool because this is where we live. I didn't go through like it narrows it down by city or town and like it was too much work to figure that out, but there's a lot of listeners from like Asheville, candler, black Mountain, swannanoa, marion, like anything.
Speaker 1:So like very local.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, very local, like Western North Carolina listeners was a, I mean it was. It was the top like cities and towns for sure, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I really love that. I love hearing that like we had a lot of reach, but that we also had like a big impact locally, like both of those things feel really good. Yeah, that feels really really good. I agree.
Speaker 2:Our top five most listened to episodes, in order from fifth to first. Are you ready for this? I'm so ready for this. All right, so our fifth most popular episode was episode number 61. What's wrong with the American Academy of Pediatric Guidelines for Higher Weight Clients? With Anna.
Speaker 1:Lutz. I love that that one did so well despite the world's most clunky title. I love that that one did so well, despite the world's most clunky title.
Speaker 2:That was hard for me to say right now, but it was. Yeah, that was. That was a very well listened to episode.
Speaker 1:I feel like sometimes I did a decent job of titling episodes and sometimes I was just like all the words go into this title, that one needed a lot of words. But that episode was amazing and like a really important topic too number four was episode number one.
Speaker 2:Meet Naomi and Sadie. That's funny.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't expect that to be up there.
Speaker 2:I guess that's like whenever people first learn about the podcast, they're just gonna listen to that first one, which is kind of like interesting too to think back about it, because three years ago I mean, I'm still the same person I was three years ago, but I felt like there's a lot that I would have said more of, or maybe differently, in that intro episode than I said three years ago.
Speaker 1:But anyway, yeah, same. I also distinctly remember how like nervous and awkward we both were for that, and so, like, it's so funny to me that like, like, even like this far in sometimes, people are still discovering the podcast and go to listen to that episode and just like how we have, how comfortable we've gotten with this, just knowing where we started and that that's where people are starting from. It's fine, like. I hope you all enjoy hearing the growth.
Speaker 2:I remember that first episode too. I was planning on recording that episode. My kid was like four, three and a half or four years old when we first recorded that episode and like I was planning on recording it while he was like having nap time or tv time or something and I got so nervous that he was gonna like talk the whole time or need me the whole time that I had. We had to postpone recording whenever I could get my mom or somebody to watch him because I could not mentally record that episode with my child in the house. But like ever since then, pretty much every other episode, he has been around in the background watching tv or playing toys or whatever yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 2:Well, we also at some point figured out that, like just because you can hear him in the background doesn't mean I or our listeners can hear him in the background and then also, I mean I know that we know this now and we knew this then, but like we can always stop and edit and like it doesn't have to be perfect in real time, so but you just kind of forget about that too. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Again, I was so nervous recording that first episode and it was the same thing I remember, like essentially pep talking myself of like it doesn't have to be perfect, editing, like we're going to edit it, everything's fine, but like it just felt so new and big and all of that stuff, and so it's just funny that now it just feels so natural.
Speaker 2:Yeah, speaking of editing too, I'm thinking back on these. First, like probably 25 episodes, like the amount of time I sat and focused on making sure everything sounded so perfect. And now, like the last probably 25 episodes, I'm like, oh, it's fine, like I'll edit out like the big things that need to be edited. But if we say, um, and like, sorry, I'm not editing every last one out, that's just who we are.
Speaker 1:It. Just, it is what it is. Yeah, when I found out that you were trying to edit out my likes, which I say as filler constantly, it just blew my mind, yeah.
Speaker 2:That didn't last very long, Fair, All right. Our third most popular episode was episode number two. Diet culture is way more than just diets which that's? A good episode.
Speaker 1:That is a really good episode. I love that episode, and especially as like an intro to what the rest of the podcast is going to be Like. I feel like it lays such a good foundation for this work, but also for the podcast as a whole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. Our second most popular episode is episode 55. What if I still want to lose weight?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not surprising, no yeah.
Speaker 2:That was. That's a good topic too, that a lot of people probably like everybody, can relate to at some point in time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that, like, honestly, the fact that that's like the second most listened to episode speaks volumes for how universal that experience is, even for people doing intuitive eating and anti-diet work, and that, just like if you're one of those people, you're very much not alone Are we ready Our number one most listened to episode. If I could make a drum roll sound right now, the episode was number 68.
Speaker 2:We need to talk about Ozempic and and we go be. Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1:I mean not surprising, unfortunate, I guess. But um, but that's awesome and I love that that episode ended up being so useful to people, because we are in an era right now and, like just, I love that people were able to find some of the information that they were looking for there.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's talk a little bit about the podcast like some of the highs and the lows and things like that Okay, so let's start with this.
Speaker 1:What has been your favorite thing about recording the podcast?
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, there's a lot of things I've really, really, really enjoyed about recording this podcast.
Speaker 2:I love that we have gotten to know each other, which has been very fun, and we've also gotten to meet a lot of really cool people that we've just known online through social media. But I think my most favorite thing is just having a chance, having this platform, having a place to have conversations that people don't really get the opportunity to do so in other settings. A lot of people don't have a community or friends or networks or whatever of people to talk to about a lot of the topics that we've discussed on the podcast, especially in real life. So having this outlet has been really important for me on a personal level because, of course, like everybody else, I'm still always learning and I'm always practicing some of this work, but I think it's really important that we did this on a community and on a cultural level too, because it gives other people out in the world the chance to have these conversations too, even if they're just listening and maybe talking back to, like their headphones or whatever that they're listening to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally, I mean same, like completely same. Getting to meet so many people has been amazing, like obviously including you, oh, of course, like we obviously knew each other and were like friends like before this, but I feel like we've really gotten to know each other and to connect through this and like that's been amazing. Yes, it has been. And yeah, like you know, a lot of our guests are people that I've like been acquainted with, like you know, I know their content and like stuff like in real time, face to face, is like a whole other level of connection and it has just been so nice and like so fun to get to do that with so many people. And I also love having a place to have these conversations, like with more depth and more nuance than you can in a social media caption or something Like.
Speaker 1:Honestly, even if I was going to just write blogs about like every topic that we covered, it would be different Because, like in this format, like I get feedback and input from you, which always makes me think of things differently, which is awesome, which always makes me think of things differently, which is awesome. And I don't know like this work feels really like one sided a lot of the time, or like you're shouting into the void or something, and it's just been so nice to have it feel collaborative, like both between us and with the guests and with our like private community and even with like listeners and stuff like like I don't know, it's just been really. It's been a really nice dynamic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I totally agree it's been. It's just been a very enjoyable experience, like I feel like we've learned a lot, we've gotten a lot out of it, we've gotten to meet a lot of very cool people. It's just been really cool.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Okay. What has been the most surprising thing for you?
Speaker 2:Other than the amount of like time, effort and work recording a podcast takes.
Speaker 2:I think, one of the most surprising things is that, out of the hundred times we have recorded an episode, we have never had to re-record one because of like technology issues, like forgetting to turn on a microphone, forgetting to hit record something happening to the sound. As this was coming out of my mouth, I'm literally like pausing to look to make sure it's being recorded as we speak, to make sure like I'm not messing things up on the last episode. But yeah, that honestly surprised me. The minimal amount of tech problems that we had was very nice, yes absolutely agreed.
Speaker 1:like there was one episode I want to say it was with Jesse Mundell where you ended up having to do it yourself because my computer was like nope and like I couldn't join the recording um and but other, but like it still was fine because you were able to do it, which like huge benefit of co-hosting instead of hosting a podcast on your own, um, I think that was the only time that something like that happened. Very unusual, I feel like technology is always interfering.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh my gosh. Well, on that specific episode, I remember after I recorded it, cause you're usually the one that hits the record button. But I remember after I recorded it like I made notes and sticky notes. I'm like hit record, hit record, make sure to record it. But after it was over I went back to save it or something, and I thought something had happened to my microphone, like maybe it wasn't plugged in or something. I'm like, oh my God, we had a guest. It didn't sound right, but then it was fine. So I thought, I don't know, it was maybe I just got in my head about it.
Speaker 1:But it ended up being fine, but I really thought that I screwed that one up, but I did not. So, yeah, yeah, that's, that is surprising. That is like legitimately surprising. Well, speaking of guests, do you have a favorite guest or a topic that we have covered? So I don't know if I can pick a favorite guest, because they've all been amazing. Like I honestly I don't know that I can pick a favorite guest, but I think that my favorite topic that we've covered has been the Ozempic stuff.
Speaker 1:I was really really intimidated by covering that at first.
Speaker 1:Like we talked about this a ton is that like we had kind of been getting requests to cover ozempic and like we were both, I think, a little like intimidated by it.
Speaker 1:And yeah, and I for me, like I haven't done that kind of like compiling data and reporting on research in a very long time, like I, like I don't, like I haven't written a research paper in decades, you know, like, and that just it made me so nervous because it was also never my favorite thing to do and you know, I don't know that I'd want to do it all the time, but I actually really enjoyed doing it here and I felt really really good about the informative and like nuanced conversation that I think we ended up being able to have, where we gave a lot of information, we made our stances very clear, but we also allowed for like these drugs actually are really effective for what they were originally created for managing a1c.
Speaker 1:They are like legitimate drugs to use for that and also like holding space for the fact that people might choose to engage with these drugs and that like body autonomy is a thing, and so just kind of being able to hold a lot of sides to the conversation while also providing like what just the actual facts and information are, made me feel really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what about you? Do you have a favorite guest or topic?
Speaker 2:I think my favorite topic slash episode that we recorded was the episode about Beachbody's rebrand, like I felt like that was such a fun episode because we really just got to talk shit about Beachbody and it just felt really, really nice to do that.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, my God, I totally agree. That one was so much fun and I'm remembering now is that the episode where you like had secret notes so that you could like spring stuff on me during the podcast. Yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, that, yeah, that was a good one, but gosh, we've had so many really good topics. We've had amazing guests. I don't have a favorite, like I love them all. Everybody's been so great.
Speaker 1:They're all our children and we love them equally.
Speaker 2:I do feel, though, that it is very important that just a few months ago, right when we first started talking about ending the podcast, we got our very first one-star negative review on Apple podcast, so that felt like a very momentous occasion, a monumental thing. That happened because they always say, when you get haters, you're doing something right, so we got our first like official hater on the podcast, so that means it's time, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, the timing of it was so funny too, because it was literally like the week we decided that we were going to wrap up the podcast and we were both kind of like, well, I guess that's that's that here we are, there's our son.
Speaker 1:If anybody's curious, it was actually really funny. The review was for our um episode 88, which was oprah ozempic and the o word um, and what it said was this was extremely painful to listen to. Just the uneducated responses and negative comments. How are two adult, how are two adult women not embarrassed to show such idiocracy, which is amazing for so many reasons, like for one thing, I love how vague it is like what do you mean by uneducated responses? What negative comments?
Speaker 2:we are not negative people no, I feel like it was very positively leaning episode absolutely.
Speaker 1:And like I don't even know what uneducated responses he's, this part I'm. I say he, he. This reads like a man to me but I have no way to know.
Speaker 2:That's fair, that's fair um.
Speaker 1:But my favorite part is that this person thinks idiocracy is a word.
Speaker 2:I don't know that idiocracy is or is not a word, but it is not a word.
Speaker 1:It is the idiocracy is the name of a movie, it is not a word. The word is idiocy, and so I just, I just love it so much. Honestly, if we enjoyed marketing more, I honestly think that we could have gotten multiple, multiple great new taglines from this, yeah, from this comment. We totally could have?
Speaker 2:we totally could have. I mean, in all seriousness, if you are a new listener or if you've been listening for a while, the ratings, especially the written reviews on apple podcasts, are amazing. We appreciate every single one of them, even like the. The idiocracy ones give us a little giggle, um. But if you want to counter that negative rating and review, this podcast is going to live forever, indefinitely, on apple podcast. So feel free to uh go. Leave us a positive one to counter the negative one.
Speaker 1:Shameless plug for some some ratings and reviews there absolutely, um, which I'm glad you brought that up, because, as we wrap up here, we want to just sort of let you know, housekeeping wise. Yes, episodes are not going anywhere. They're going to live on all of your favorite podcast platforms indefinitely. We're not planning on taking them down, so feel free to go back and listen. And, yeah, those will be available to you for as long as the internet, as long as the internet continues to internet.
Speaker 2:Yes, and that's the same for our Instagram page. We are at satisfaction factor pod that our Instagram page will exist as long as Instagram is around. So if you're listening to this way down the road, or you've been listening forever, you're always welcome to come find us on Instagram, leave a comment, send us a message, whatever.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and, of course, we both individually are online at various places where you can reach out to us as well, and we would always love to hear from you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll be sure to link our Instagram handles and websites in the show notes so you can reach out to us there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but also let's just say them let's do it.
Speaker 2:I'm currently on Instagram at Sadie M Simpson and my website is sadiesimpsoncom.
Speaker 1:And I am at happy shapes, naomi, and my website is happy shapesco, and just really want to emphasize that it's co, not com, because that gets confusing. Okay, sadie, one last time. What is satisfying for you right now?
Speaker 2:I mean, I feel like the answer that I have to give and that is also very true to my heart that I'm satisfied by our podcast. I feel like it has just been a really satisfying endeavor. It has been fun, it has been fulfilling, it has been just a very cool experience and I'm glad we had the chance to do this.
Speaker 1:Yes, I feel like this is a cop-out, but that's totally my satisfying thing right now, like obviously it is right. Yes, I think, yeah, like the I'm, I'm feeling very satisfied, both about the podcast itself and about how we're wrapping it up. Like, honestly, I am so satisfied by the fact that, like we could have this like perfect storm of, like third anniversary, hundredth episode, final episode.
Speaker 2:That is super satisfying.
Speaker 1:Right. So satisfying, yes, it is. I cannot think of any other timing that would have felt quite so like perfectly wrapped up, and so yeah it was.
Speaker 2:it was some good timing there this ride with us.
Speaker 1:We have loved every minute of it and we appreciate every one of you for listening, for the comments you've left, for engaging with the podcast in all the different ways that you've engaged with it, and that is it for us. Bye.