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231: Why “Take a Break” & “Just Say No” Aren’t Fixing Ministry Burnout
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Burnout recovery goes deeper than just taking a break.
In this episode, we’re talking about why surface-level burnout advice often isn’t enough, the deeper patterns underneath emotional exhaustion, and why so many people in ministry still feel depleted even after trying to rest, set boundaries, or “do less.”
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- Why quick burnout fixes often don’t create lasting change
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231: Why “Take a Break” & “Just Say No” Aren’t Fixing Ministry Burnout
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Hey, welcome to the Small Church Ministry podcast, where we help volunteers and ministry leaders experience less stress, more joy and greater impact as we share strategies that actually do work in smaller churches. I’m your host, Laurie Graham, let’s dive in.
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Laurie Graham Ertl: Hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of the Small Church Ministry podcast. If you are new here, Small Church Ministry is all about helping volunteers and ministry leaders build healthier ministry with less pressure, less burnout, and more real impact in smaller churches. Today, we are continuing a conversation we’ve been having about burnout for the last couple weeks.
But before we jump in, I wanna tell you something that I noticed, and honestly, it made me sad, frustrated, a little bit upset even, when I looked back at our statistics. So I watch the [00:01:00] statistics of our podcast quite often, just looking at how the downloads are doing, what the popular episodes are, what the needed topics are.
And here’s what I noticed, is that when we talk about getting more volunteers, solving ministry problems, fixing systems, making ministry easier, those episodes do great, especially the ones on getting more volunteers. Like, the downloads are, like, through the roof. But the minute I start talking about burnout or emotional health or healthier rhythms or recovery or sustainable ministry, the listener numbers drop pretty hard.
And honestly, I think that says something important, something really big to notice about church culture, because it’s not that more people need help getting volunteers than they do with healthier rhythms. I am telling you, one of the biggest issues I see in smaller churches is the amount of burnout, the amount of [00:02:00] pressure.
When I talk to just people in our communities about how they’re doing serving, this is a big need. So why are we so much more interested in how to keep ministry going, than we are in keeping people, even ourselves, healthy while we’re doing it? Because serving healthy honestly affects our bottom line numbers of volunteers and, and the percentage of impact we’re having.
Like, if you wanna get statistical about it or if you wanna get practical, being healthy serving in ministry is really practical. It affects how we’re showing up and the kind of impact we’re having and how many people actually stay serving with us. So I just wanna say that if you want more volunteers, get healthier.
If you want your church to [00:03:00] see better numbers, I know we don’t talk a lot about numbers ’cause I don’t care about numbers in the same way that other people do, but if you do care about numbers, you should care a lot about building healthier ministry systems and healthier people. Like, the thing is, that all, all of these pieces are connected.
Exhausted people, ministry leaders, pastors, volunteers. Exhausted people create exhausted ministry cultures. Overextended leaders eventually build overextended expectations. Unhealthy serving patterns do affect and eventually literally shape your whole church culture, the teams over time. That’s exactly what happens.
So I really think this part of why, [00:04:00] that this is a huge part, of why this conversation matters so much. If we keep focusing on and trying to grab onto solving this ministry problem without looking at ourselves, filling volunteer gaps without keeping people healthy, keeping everything running without addressing this very real, very important thing that’s happening under the surface, eventually the whole thing is gonna fall apart.
And I honestly think that’s what a lot of us are seeing in our churches today. Things are falling apart because we’re not addressing the deeper issues of ministry health and service and our beliefs the way that we function. So if you’ve listened to this episode so far and you were like, “Eh, I wasn’t sure if I’d listen to this one”, please hang in there.
And if you can share this episode more than any other one you’ve shared, would you just do [00:05:00] it even as an experiment? Maybe you shared the one about getting more volunteers or about why volunteers are leaving our churches. Would you please share this one too?
So let me jump back into the conversation that we’re having, the conversations we’ve been having about burnout. Because a couple episodes ago, we talked about how burnout is very real, and we may still have more agency than we think sometimes in that. More choice. Like, it doesn’t have to be inevitable.
Last week, we talked about the exhausting pressure of feeling like we have to be available to everyone all the time, or we have to show up because no one else will. Today, I’m gonna go deeper than that.
Here’s why. I think a lot of us already know the typical burnout advice. In fact, we give it to other people. Take a break. Set boundaries. ‘No’ is a complete sentence. Take a Sabbath. Commit to that. [00:06:00] Protect it. Rest more. Go away for a while, even an extended sabbatical or those solitude weekends. And listen, I agree with these things. I share them. I teach them. But this week, I even asked people in our free online group, our Facebook group, “What helps prevent burnout? What are your best tips?” And the answers were genuinely thoughtful.
People, again, talked about knowing our limits, protecting Sabbath, taking time away, saying no, spending time with Jesus, getting rest, asking for help. And honestly, none of that is wrong. But I also think there’s a reason, heh, that so many thoughtful, self-aware, spiritually deep people are still exhausted. Serving through burnout?
There’s a reason for this. Here’s what I want to talk about today. [00:07:00] Good tools, good advice, good tools don’t automatically heal deeper patterns. Because a lot of us took the vacation, set the boundaries, said no, rested, sometimes for extended periods of time, and still feel exhausted or came back and felt exhausted almost immediately.
Have you been there? Have you been practicing these things of healthier boundaries and saying no and even teaching them and still are living in patterns of overwhelm, emotional depletion, and oftentimes still dreading ministry? Whether we say it out loud, whether we admit it, so many people through different seasons, even when Sunday comes, wake up with that feeling of, “Ugh, another Sunday.”
Now, I’m still gonna do it, and I still wanna do it because I love Jesus, and I believe that serving is about them and not me. So I’m not saying you’re [00:08:00] sitting around complaining or whining, but I believe there’s a better way to serve. There’s a better way to show up, and it’s much more in line with how Jesus actually asked us to serve.
I want to talk today about why burnout recovery is much deeper than behavior change. Not because boundaries don’t matter, not because keeping your Sabbath isn’t important, but because deeper patterns often survive underneath well-meaning behavior change. Deeper patterns. So let’s talk about it. Okay. I honestly think one of the most frustrating parts of burnout is that many of us already know exactly what to do and what the healthy answers are.
None of this is new information. Take a break. Protect your peace. Set boundaries. Get some rest. You need a Sabbath. Just say no. None of this is new information. Many very [00:09:00] self-aware people that I know are burnt out. How many people do you know are already practicing these types of practices and are still exhausted?
Now, if you are not exhausted, if you don’t feel depleted, if you’re not struggling with burnout, can I just ask you to look to the right and the left of you at church? Because you are serving with people who are. It is so frustrating when we practice the things that we know to do. Just say no, take a break, better time management, batching our stuff so that we’re not, like, flying all over the place, right?
Working on feeling grounded, taking our breaks. We’re doing those things, and we still feel exhausted. Taking vacations. Maybe we feel good while we’re there, but coming back, and man, it hits us all [00:10:00] over again. Or how about resting physically? Trying really hard, keeping that Sabbath to the letter. But mentally, we’re replaying church problems, relational conflicts.
What are we gonna do with that? What are we gonna walk back into? Coming back from time away, immediately feeling the pressure again. Or how about this? Taking your Sabbaths, but feeling guilty while you’re resting. If this is you, you are not alone. This is very normal. I think we can name this as normal and talk about what we can do differently.
The truth is, is that knowing healthy things and actually healing are not the same thing. I’m gonna say it again. Knowing healthy things, healthy practices, and actually healing are not the same thing. Burnout recovery. Recovery is an [00:11:00] ongoing thing. There’s not a quick solution to recovering from anything, from grief, from addiction, from substances, from trauma, from stress.
Burnout recovery. And I do wanna clarify, I’m not anti-boundaries, I am not anti-rest, I am not anti-Sabbath. I teach these things and I practice these things. What we’re talking about today on this episode is recognizing deeper burnout patterns. Noticing what surface level fixes don’t touch, not shaming yourself that it’s not working, but just noticing what’s not getting touched and understanding why many of us and many people around you still feel exhausted after trying all the healthy things.
It’s kind of like stretching. We know that stretching is so good for us, but when there is a deeper injury underneath that pain, stretching helps, but it might not [00:12:00] fully solve what’s happening under there. I think church culture has gotten to a point where we approach burnout like that. We are approaching burnout that needs recovery with quick fixes and behavioral change instead of transformation.
You know, it goes back to, like, when Jesus taught about sin even, you know? Like, it goes back to what’s underneath. Like, we can make all the surface changes and still those feelings of exhaustion are still there. Please hear me. I’m not saying exhaustion is sin. That is not the metaphor I was trying to make there. The analogy or metaphor, whatever that is that I was just talking about, was that behavior change doesn’t fix what’s underneath our belief systems, and a lot of those are a little wonky because of our church cultures that we’ve grown up in. Most of us don’t need more tips for burnout. We need deeper recovery, and honestly, I think this is one reason that gets so [00:13:00] confusing is because we can stop working physically and still stay emotionally overwhelmed.
We can say no to the things physically, “I’m not gonna be involved in that ministry area. I’m gonna stay home with my family on that day,” and still emotionally be kind of stuck in a place of overwhelm. Have you ever experienced that? Have you ever technically stopped working, but you still… Like, you didn’t actually feel at rest. That’s a really strange feeling that I think many of us have had.
Again, vacations that don’t feel restorative or rest that still has like a tenseness in it. That feeling that we’re still on when we’re trying to turn off, right? How about just some specific examples?
Checking church messages during [00:14:00] family time or during time that you have reserved for something else. Thinking about volunteers and conflicts when you’re trying to relax. Feeling anxious when you’re trying to slow down. Returning from time off and almost immediately crashing emotionally, right? You can leave the building without actually leaving survival mode. You can leave the church event without leaving that feeling of like, the overly responsible feeling sometimes. Burnout often has an edge of mental overload to it as well as emotional exhaustion, sometimes that physical piece, that prolonged responsibility pressure and pattern, especially in smaller churches.
‘Cause when you’re in a small church, like ministry rarely stays within office hours. Now, if you’ve only been in small churches or medium-sized churches, you’re probably like, [00:15:00] “Oh, duh.” Okay, I served in a large church before. I’m telling you, in a large church, you can do ministry within office hours, even if you’re a volunteer.
You can literally check in and check out. It’s very different in small churches because everything’s related to everything else. Many of us are wearing multiple hats. Many of us are friends with or relatives with. We have personal relationships outside of the church. Like, you’re going to Thanksgiving dinner with maybe it’s your pastor is your dad or your uncle, right? And so that relational pressure can follow you.
Small groups even in small churches, it’s very, very different. So there’s actually a lot of research that’s coming up more and more that’s showing that chronic stress actually changes how we function over time. So that chronic stress sticks with us with like behavioral pattern of changes in how we function.
So you can leave that chronic stress and still have the same behavior [00:16:00] or patterns that are still linked to that chronic stress. We get so used to urgency that slowing down actually feels crazy uncomfortable and difficult. Like slowing down, like I know people who hate quiet. They’ve been in such a pace of overwhelm and noise for so long that quieting down, it almost makes them feel crazy, and it takes a lot to kind of bounce back from that and reconnect with the fact that God asks us to quiet down, to sit in stillness and silence.
If you’re uncomfortable doing that, join the club. There’s tons of people who are. But it’s not the way He created us to be. It’s what’s happened after years of prolonged stress or chronic, chronic pressure, overwhelm over responsibility. Do you see how this becomes part of a small church culture? I think a lot of [00:17:00] small church volunteers and ministry leaders, we have lived there longer than we realize, and it has changed us.
Now, I’m not saying it’s changed us personally. I’m not saying it’s transformed us to be who God called us to be. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying some of this is crazy unhealthy. Like, when your shoulders are super, super tense and you leave that tense situation, but you still feel that in your shoulders maybe for another hour, maybe for another day.
Maybe you wake up the next day with this incredible pain or just stress in your shoulders from something that happened the day before. Can you imagine being in that for years? Because many of us have. And even though our body might physically stop serving and we might do that, take a break, or we might say no, our nervous system hasn’t caught up to it yet We’ve gotten so used to carrying so much pressure, please hear [00:18:00] this, that peace often feels unfamiliar.
I’ve shared my story in little bits over in different episodes and different conferences and things. But a couple years ago, when I was sitting on the back porch of somebody else’s home that I was staying in, I was incredibly aware that I was breathing deeper and slower, and I felt so peaceful. And I was like, “What is this?” It felt so unfamiliar. That was part of healing for me. Now, I wouldn’t have said it a year or two earlier. You may be listening to this now and think, “Oh, that’s not me. That’s not me.” Well, I just want to tell you that’s where I was. But God has something more for you. I just want to say this because I’ve experienced it.
If you serve in pressure and you serve, and you’re on all the time, and you’re very capable, and you’re moving very well, and, you know, you’re overproducing and everybody thinks you’re a ministry [00:19:00] rock star, can I just tell you that I know that God has even more for you because He just always does. There’s a peace that’s deeper. There’s a peace that passes our understanding. I’m not saying I’ve arrived. I’m betting there’s more for me that God has. But I do feel very differently than I did even a couple years ago in ministry as far as understanding and feeling peace in a very different way. I think church culture often unintentionally rewards the very patterns that are exhausting us.
There is a celebration of over-functioning. Look how much this person can do. Wow, that person’s the best volunteer ever. They need to lead this, too. I have seen pastors and ministry leaders continue to pour and pile things on our very capable people. [00:20:00] It’s the opposite of what we should be doing. One reason burnout gets so complicated in ministry is because these unhealthy patterns get rewarded, sometimes even with a dose of feeling spiritually rewarded that you’re able to do more than everyone else, that God must be equipping you to do more than everyone else, that you’re so selfless, that you answer messages late at night, that you’re equipped with this supernatural, you know, Energizer bunny thing because you can step in when no one else will.
And we reward that. It’s too much. Over-functioning, constant availability, being the reliable one when we don’t even think before we step in because we can, because it’s within our capacity, it’s within our ability. And slowly it creeps in that usefulness or productivity [00:21:00] becomes twisted in with our identity.
Now, this is a hard thing to admit, and I think the vast majority of us have been there if we’re not there now. We don’t like to admit it. It sounds very ungodly to say that our identity is tied to our worth. We know that we don’t have to work for our salvation. That’s usually been pounded into many of us.
And yet, who would you be if you stopped everything you’re doing? I think it’s a great question to ask. Who would you be? Because when we see, we see this happen when people’s, like roles in their churches are stripped away sometimes by choice, sometimes because of physical reasons, sometimes, because of unhealthy leadership, toxic patterns.
Sometimes it’s very healthy, but we buck at it, okay? But whatever that reason might be, if your identity in your church was stripped away, what would be left? If you couldn’t function at that capacity anymore, how would you feel? If you feel not [00:22:00] useful. Honestly, a lot of times this is the undercover giftedness, we call it sometimes, of being a helper.
And identity gets revolved around that as well. This isn’t just for spotlight ministry people who are leading up front and doing sermons or, you know, being the ministry leaders that we see. This is all of us.
Sometimes those very things that are burning us out are the same things that people keep praising us for. What do we do with that? When the very things that are burning us out are the things that people keep praising us for. Okay, I just need to clarify again, this is not about becoming selfish. This is not about caring less.
This is not about pulling away from people or relationships or church completely or even partially. That’s not the point. This is about sustainable [00:23:00] ministry. This is about being a healthy human. This is about recognizing the very limits that God created us to have. This is about being honest, about noticing our unhealthy patterns and maybe even some unhealthy patterns within our church.
Again, consider, have you ever seen this happen? How do church cultures unintentionally celebrate overwork, constant sacrifice, endless availability, or exhaustion? How do we unintentionally celebrate that? We give rewards, applause to people who’ve never missed a Sunday or taught Sunday school for thirty years.
Now, by the way, if you taught Sunday school for thirty years with healthy boundaries and healthy limits, and you’ve taken breaks and you’re not exhausted, and you don’t feel compelled to be there, and you don’t feel like you have to be there, that’s great. I’m not knocking long-term service, but I’m just saying sometimes [00:24:00] we are rewarding the same things that are burning people out. We celebrate it.
So how about the next time somebody decides to take a week off of Sunday school or a season off of serving, or a pastor wants to take a sabbatical, we actually praise them up front and we say, “Hey, we wanna celebrate this family because they have decided to do this and to take a season off, and we’re gonna miss them terribly because they were worship leaders, and they were also doing Sunday school, and we wanna celebrate that you’ve made a healthy choice. We want you to be healthy. We want you to recover. We want you to heal.” How about we celebrate that? Instead of under our breath saying, “Oh my gosh, I can’t believe they quit. Now we have to do it instead of them. You have no idea that you just put work on top of me.” Right? Jesus cared deeply about people, not just our work.
He didn’t just care about our [00:25:00] work. Jesus cared deeply about people, think about his example, without endlessly being available to everyone all the time. Jesus went places and people couldn’t find him. How fun would that be? In most small churches, reality, a very small group of people carry a lot for a really long time, okay?
Eventually, that affects emotional health, but I wanna go deeper than that, creativity and joy. You know when churches get into those places where we’re doing the same old thing all the time, and that’s what we like, and that’s why we do it, and they seem like they’re anti-change because of that. Do you know where that lack of creativity and that dullness comes in?
It’s often a result, at least partially, of burnout. Because it gets easier to do the same thing the same way. Takes a lot less energy, and the reason we want it easier is because we’re tired of it. [00:26:00] Like, just kind of look at the that relationship that might be there. When we carry too much for too long, it affects our relationships. It affects how we feel about waking up. It affects how we show up. Sometimes we get that little martyr feeling. We do not have to destroy ourselves to prove that we care. In fact, taking care of ourselves well, really long term, not saying it’s initial, but long term, it actually proves that we care more about others.
So if burnout recovery is deeper than the quick fixes I’ve been talking about, what does healthy recovery actually start looking like? I wanna get there. Recovery is much deeper than behavior change. I honestly think healthier ministry starts with more honesty, more recognition, more reflection than we usually realize.
Now, it doesn’t have to be dramatic, but just [00:27:00] noticing deeper burnout patterns. Be more aware of your capacity. Looking at your rhythms, reconnecting with joy. Reconnecting with Jesus outside usefulness.
And I’m just gonna call this out. I might step, I’m sure I’ll step on some toes here. I’ve asked people who are on the edge of burnout. This is a typical question I will ask if you come to me and you’re burned out. I’ll say, “Hey, how do you connect with Jesus, like, outside of ministry?” And people often say, “Oh, I actually connect to Jesus the most when I’m in ministry, when I’m teaching, when I’m researching and preparing for teaching, when I’m serving with people, alongside people.”
You guys, I get it. I get it. I connect with Jesus in those ways, too. But remove the usefulness. Remove all usefulness. How can we reconnect with Jesus differently? New, newly, freshly. [00:28:00] This is about learning to live differently, like strikingly differently, huh, than how we’ve been living.
Many people will rest physically while still carrying a lot of emotional responsibility. Many people will say no and feel the crushing guilt of saying no. Many people will take breaks and mentally never feel like we have taken a break. There are deeper beliefs with all of this, and let me challenge some of those.
If I stop helping, everything will fall apart. Not true. If I disappoint people, I am failing. Not true. My value comes from feeling needed. Not true. Good ministry leaders say yes more than they say no. Not true. Rest is irresponsible when people [00:29:00] still need things. Not true. Now, I also wanna acknowledge everything might fall apart, but it’s not because you stopped helping.
If it was gonna fall apart, it was gonna fall apart anyway, because of the deeper things. That statement I mentioned, if I disappoint people, I’m failing. Not true. Now, I’m not saying you’re not gonna disappoint people. You will. I will. We do every day. But disappointing people is not the same as failing.
When our value gets wrapped in and around how much we do, and I will say for most of us, even those of us who don’t wanna admit it, it’s totally true, there’s a problem with that. It’s not living the great way that God designed us to live. Oftentimes, burnout survives and continues because of deeper beliefs underneath it that never change.
Again, we can change our behaviors and not change the patterns and not [00:30:00] change our beliefs. So I just wanna give you a couple questions just to think about. What pressure have you normalized? Like what amount of pressure? Like this is normal ministry to feel this, to feel burnout, to feel responsible. What pressure have you normalized? Maybe take some time to journal that later. What pressure have you normalized? Okay.
Another question I want you to think about is where do you still feel responsible for other people? Their happiness, their joy, their coming to Jesus, their growth. Where do you still feel responsible for other people? Huge question to ask I’ve already talked about identity, but a great question is what part of your identity is still tied to being needed? I think we all have some of our identity tied to that, okay?
You know, I [00:31:00] do even, like, with my kids, you know. I have some identity in being needed. At least I wanna be needed by them, and they’re adults now, right? So don’t shame yourself over that, but look at how much of your identity is tied to being needed And then take some time to think about rhythms. What rhythms are you building? Rhythms. Not just saying no, not like responses. I’m saying what rhythms are you building that you can stay healthy inside of those rhythms?
If vacations aren’t working for you, that’s really something to look at. If Sabbath day is still stressful, if it’s not enough. If Sabbath day is not enough. So a lot of people take a Sabbath. They say, “We’re gonna take one day a week, and I’m not gonna work on those days.” If that is not enough for you, that’s not… Jesus didn’t say only take one day off. Like, we gotta also take care of that. You know what? Who was made for who? The Sabbath was made for people, or people were made for the Sabbath? Like, we’ve gotta [00:32:00] really look at that. If we’re not recovering, if we’re not moving to a different place, a different place of being, a different place of responding. We have to look at what recovery means. Recovery is not just learning how to rest. Sometimes it’s learning about our worth. It’s deeper healing.
So this conversation is why we created the Burnout Recovery event that’s happening on June 6th.
We’re a live, just a three-hour event called Burnout Recovery. And honestly, I just don’t even know where to go with this ’cause I could go in a million places with this in my head right now and my passion level with what I’ve seen of how many people in ministry are serving so unhealthy. We need this more than quick tips and fixes on how to get more volunteers.
I don’t know how to get that out to the world because I know a whole lot more people would come to this [00:33:00] event if I said, “Get more volunteers. Here’s your five steps.” We need this more. We’re gonna talk about emotional exhaustion and healthier rhythms and over-functioning and deeper burnout patterns, emotional recovery, reconnecting with Jesus outside of constant outputs. Four of us are gonna be having conversations with all of you who come about these things, all from a small church context, bivocational volunteers. People who’ve been there and who are still in it now.
Because burnout recovery is time. It’s time off. It’s extended time off. Sometimes involves therapy. Definitely involves a change in rhythms, a deep look at our beliefs, who we think we are, who we think we’re supposed to be, how we think we’re supposed to serve. Because most of what we have seen, modeled, and honestly [00:34:00] been taught is not good and not healthy.
It’s Scriptures taken out of context. It’s not looking at the way God literally designed us to be mind, body, spirit, relationships. It’s messing with our brains about what we’re responsible for and what we’re not, and why God even created us to be on this planet. If this episode resonated with you at all, I really think this conversation, on June 6th is gonna resonate, not just resonate with you, but help us all feel seen and understood and encouraged.
You can grab a link for the free ticket in the show notes or just go to smallchurchministry.com/recovery. Free tickets, share the word. Let’s get this out there. After you register, there’s an optional Burnout Recovery Companion available for purchase if you want continued support after the live event. Super affordable. It’s [00:35:00] $29. It includes replay access to all the sessions. Oh, 29 if you get it at the quick action price, ’cause it does go up as it gets closer to the event. But if you get it at the quick price, it’s $29. It gives you replay access to all the sessions, plus a Burnout Recovery Foundations course that has practical tools, recovery concepts, and things that are gonna go deeper into the some of the topics and a lot more that I talked about here. It’s a great foundations course for burnout recovery. You’ll also get a free 30-day trial inside the network.
Now, I wanna talk about that for a second ’cause people look at that network and they’re like, “What can I get in 30 days?” You guys, in 30 days in the free trial, you’re gonna get three live group coaching calls that month. Yes, we do this every single month. You will have access to that. As a simple follow-up from this live event, to be able to ask your questions, to be able to, you know, just respond back to whatever’s going through your mind from this podcast episode, I’m on all those calls. There’s also a live Q&A support.
There’s also a masterclass that you get a resource to share [00:36:00] within three, within one 30-day trial. Like for 30 days, you’ll also get a personal welcome call with me, ongoing conversations with people who understand small church ministry life. Please, if you have the $29, grab that burnout companion, Burnout Recovery Companion with the replay access, the Foundations course, and the free network trial.
You guys, we wanna support you. If you’re realizing, “I don’t just need inspiration, I want healthier patterns that stick,” this support is what it’s here for. So again, burnout recovery is often deeper than quick fixes. Rest matters, boundary matters, time off matters, Sabbath matters, saying no matters. Yes, it matters. But deeper patterns matter more. Over-responsibility, over-functioning, constant emotional access, usefulness, guilt, pressure.
Healthier ministry starts with noticing these things before you can even move toward change. You know, listen, I think a lot of us are more exhausted than we [00:37:00] even wanna admit out loud. If it’s not you, as I said earlier in this episode, it’s the person serving next to you. Look to your right, look to your left, look in front of you a row or two in church on Sunday.
This is not because we’re doing our faith wrong. It’s not because we don’t care about other people enough. It’s not because we’re selfish. But somewhere along the way, we have started to normalize unsustainable ways of serving Constant exhaustion is not good, it is not healthy, and it is not godly.
Healthier ministry is totally possible. Showing up excited to serve, having creative ideas, looking to the future and not to where we’re at, having hope. Not for perfect ministry, not necessarily pressure-free ministry. Not saying it’s always easy, but healthier rhythms, sustainable patterns, accepting who God created [00:38:00] us to be as humans and not robots Oftentimes recovery starts smaller than we think.
It starts with noticing. It starts with honesty. It starts with one healthier shift at a time. But it’s a whole lot more than the quick fixes, okay? It’s deeper. Thanks for hanging out with me this week. If this episode encouraged you, I’d love it if you left a quick review for the podcast. It really does help more small church volunteers and ministry leaders find these needed conversations.
All right, until next week, be a light.