GUEST APPEARANCE: Clayton Cuteri is Interviewed by Ray Doustar on the Deep Shallow Dive Podcast | Ep 364

Summary
In this episode, Clayton Cuteri delves into the complexities of political decisions, with a particular focus on the U.S. administration's actions regarding Israel and their implications for American citizens. He discusses the withholding of disaster funding to states that boycott Israel, labeling it as treasonous. The conversation shifts to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, highlighting war crimes and the international community's response, including Australia's recognition of Palestine. The episode concludes with a cultural commentary on moral dilemmas faced in society today.

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Timecodes
00:00 - Introduction and Guest Introduction

02:15 - Epstein Files and Political Confusion

09:49 - The American Congress Party: A New Political Movement

19:41 - Political Affiliations and Ideologies

22:26 - The Greater Israel Project and Current Events

25:35 - Ethnic Cleansing and Military Operations

26:30 - Standing with Innocent People

28:59 - The Cost of War and Accountability

29:56 - The Big Beautiful Bill: A Political Game 

34:04 - Connecting with the American People

36:21 - Reconnecting with Our Neighbors

40:06 - Spirituality and Interconnectivity

Transcript

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The following podcast is a deep shallow dive production. Okay, let's go. All right, listen, it is not often that I am out dressed on these podcasts, but today I am out dressed by Clayton Q. Terry. And if you guys are not watching this on Spotify or YouTube, you're missing a sharp dressed gentleman and a nice. I don't know if that's Navy or black suit with a red tie, very presidential like and with the flag of the United States of these Americas on his lapel. So, hey, what's up, man? How you doing, buddy? Welcome. I'm doing excellent and I'm glad you picked up on the presidential look because that's where we'll be one day. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Listen, everybody, this is going to be, this is actually going to be like two episodes in one because most of the time when I bring on guests, to be honest, we're talking about like a topic from the past or some type of specific topic, but here's the beauty with you. We're going to talk about your new party that you and a few other guys have started. And we might get into that in a second, but the other thing is You know, honestly, man, I've, I've consumed a ton of your content as I was telling you before we hit record. And I mean, you remind me of myself in a lot of ways. You really do. Your, your viewpoints are very logical. They're very common sense there. And they're also something that I think more of America needs to hear. And what's great about today is it's basically going to be an episode about your political party, but we're also going to actually talk about. everything that's going on in the world right now. So it'll be a, a very current episode. actually before we get into your party, let's start off with that because I listened to your past couple podcasts on your podcast and you know, I really like your perspective on the Epstein stuff. So, you know, what do you think is going on with this? Like what is the deal with the Epstein files or lack thereof? Starting off strong, Yeah, we gotta hook people in the beginning. Well, you know, it's a difficult one because I think that there's a lot of potential realities that are going on here as to why things may or may not be happening, why they're not releasing them. I think it doesn't look good politically whenever you have your attorney general saying that they're on my desk and then you have Bongino saying we're looking into it, there's tens of thousands of hours and then they don't have them and then we want to just cover it up like it never existed. Meanwhile, Trump campaigned on it. So I think all of it is very, it's very confusing to say the least. And I think whenever you're someone who's leading this country, the one thing you shouldn't be is confusing because as the leader of a country, if you're confused, then the rest of your people are confused and that's not a good place to be. yeah, you know, outside of that, you know, it's a lot of theories in my opinion. And I think, you know, there's a lot of potential people who are probably on that list. But at the same time, I do still believe like in the court of law. And I think that we need to trust the process and trust that the DOJ will investigate it, that they will look through those files and that they will, you know, come to the conclusion that is what it is. Because I think you have a situation where, you know, someone was convicted of child trafficking, of a ton of other illegal things with children. And yet we don't have any. any people, any clients, you know, we don't know who they were, where they went, where the kids are, any of this stuff. It's all hush hush. And, you know, you could argue that that's a part of the legal process until everything's all wrapped up. But, you know, at this point, it seems a little disingenuous, but I, at the end of the day, I still stand firm that we need to trust the process and trust the judicial system that they'll come out with and eventually tell us what's actually going on. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you though. I don't trust the process anymore. I really don't, unfortunately. And you know, here's the, the, big elephant in the room, in my opinion about it is, you know, you've got people saying, Trump's on it. Trump's on the list. He went to the Island and he did this. I'll give you my thoughts and then, and then give me yours. I honestly don't think he did. You know, I don't think he is on the list in the way that maybe Prince Andrew or a Bill Clinton even is on the list. I do think he paled around with Epstein. I think they ran around together in Florida. They partied together. They did all of that stuff. Who knows, maybe they had a falling out. Maybe that's why he banned him from Mar-a-Lago, whatever. But I don't think he's nefariously on the list. What I do think is, I don't think that he wants to allow the connection to be made between Epstein to Mossad, Mossad to Israel, and then tell the American people, hey, it was the Israeli government that's honey pot us for 20 plus years. So with everything that you see with Trump being so pro-Israel, I mean, like just to where he has completely fractured his own base, to me, I think it's that with him. What are your thoughts on that? Well, you know, I think that there is a lot of evidence that does support, you know, I don't see any smoke and gun, which I think is the difficult part that directly connects Epstein to Mossad, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence and facts that we know about. Obviously there's far more intelligent people on the matter, but from what I've seen, what I've been exposed to, it does seem likely. Again, you know, this could be a reason that they're keeping it hush hush because you don't want to incriminate or. you if there's any other operations that they have going on, who knows? I do believe that, you know, and I think this is probably something we'll get into at some point in the podcast, but regardless, I think at some level, if he is or he isn't, I think you can just look at AIPAC and their influence over all of our politicians over our president, you know, whenever you give somebody money, you expect a return on your investment. You don't just give people money for no reason. So if you're contributing to someone's campaign and you're a foreign country, I mean, I think that that might be one of the most treasonous things that a politician could do because you're literally saying that regardless if it benefits my citizens, the people who I'm supposed to be serving, I'm going to be your slave. I'll be your puppet. And the reality is, that we should demand politicians only accept money from the American citizens because in my opinion and the way I'm going to run my campaign and my future campaigns is to only accept money from the citizens because I see political office as being in servitude or essentially being the slave of the citizens of that country. And so, you know, in, in a way it could be a, you could see the Epstein file and the Mossad connection as almost this smoke and mirror when all the further we have to look is AIPAC. The millions of dollars they've given to Trump, the millions of dollars they've given to senators, to house of representatives and anyone who steps out of line. Thomas Massey, for instance, they get a primary against them. So it's not really a shocker to me. think, you know, if we want to talk about smoking gun evidence, I would, I mean, I think we should focus there, but at the same time, we do need to have justice on the Epstein files and who those clients are. Yeah, absolutely. mean, to me, it's just caused such a loss of credibility for the administration and for all, for all of these people involved, know, Bon Gino and Cash Patel being the two biggest, those guys were beating the Epstein drum for four years on every podcast on their own podcast. mean, there's so many clips of Dan Bon Gino saying guys, We can't let them get away with this. We've got to keep putting the pressure on, you know, from as recent as 2023 and 2024. And now here they are in a position to put the pressure on and to give the truth. And again, it's just, it's three card Monte, you know, they're moving things here, they're moving things there. I'll tell you my prediction of what's going to happen next. You you keep seeing Ghislaine Maxwell or Gis-Laine Maxwell, however you pronounce her first name. And they're talking about giving her She said, Hey, I'm willing to testify. bet you they'll cut a deal with her. She'll testify in front of Congress. She'll testify the way they want her to testify and get her immunity. What does she have to lose? She's sitting in jail for 20 years. I don't think she cares about protecting Jeffrey Epstein anymore. So basically she'll come out and say, there was nothing. It was all Epstein. I said I was his consigliere or concierge and I set everything up for him and She'll get out and then they'll basically say, see everybody case closed. But I don't think people are falling for it, man. I don't think people are falling for it. I don't think so either. And, I hope that's not the case. However, the history of our political system has, has been letting us down. And I really do think that that's where the American Congress party comes into play. I, know, whether you vote Republican or Democrat, neither side has really been a voice for what the people desire and they continue to let us down. And so at some point you have to ask yourself, are we truly being represented in Congress? We're supposed to be a representative democracy, constitutional, representative constitutional republic, I guess. But, you know, the question is, are we even being represented? know, everywhere I look, the answer is no. 80 % of Americans are against war. We have people dying on the streets. We have a homeless crisis that's out of control. We have a drug problem that's out of control and we're not addressing it. The priority is to send more money to kill innocent people in foreign countries. And I... You know, I find that to be some of the most evil stuff that's happening on this planet. Absolutely. All right. So tell us about the American Congress Party. think people will be very interested to know that you are part of literally a new political party that, you know, hopefully more and more people will get to know through this podcast and others. Tell us about that. Sure. High level. 2021, it was started by Brandon Konsei-Sao, who's the president. And then in 2023, there wasn't too much traction. And then I had him on my podcast, Traveling to Consciousness. And he told me all about essentially his mission, what he's doing, his plans for essentially purifying nature, saving the next generation. Because I see it as that's our responsibility. Our duty is to save the next generation, to leave the place better than we found it. So after having them on the podcast, which we didn't even talk about the party, we talked about it off in the green room and said, yeah, what, do you need? How can I join? So as the second member in 2023, November of 2023, November 11th of 2023, uh, sec became secretary general of the American Congress party. And from there, it took on a beast of its own. Since then we've probably have around. 40 to 50 members, I would say. There's probably 10 of us that are very deep into it, if you will. You can find them on the website, americancongressparty.com. And our ethos is essentially to protect nature, to serve the next generation, to leave the world better than we found it. And we can get into individual policies, but I think you've heard a couple of them here of no more war, reduce taxes. We need to denuclearize. We need to purify our food, our water. We need to purify our minds and our education system. And lastly, we need free medication. I mean, we're supplying money to countries that have free medication and not to get into even the whole Hydra that is Big Pharma. You know, they completely control again, controlling our government, right? Through their lobbyist groups. They're our politicians, our slaves to Big Pharma. So, you know, we need politicians in here who are going to serve the American people and You know, I find it that those are the things that people want. mean, first of all, they want that and we need that. We deserve that because majority of those things should be free and they should enable us to be a human, understand how to be human, right? Whether it's your education or your body, because if any of those two are out of alignment, you're going to, well, you can't be human to say the least. so I think we, we need to start taking care of our own people before we can really tell any other country what to do. So is this a political party that will rival the Republicans and the Democrats? Like, is this an actual political party? And then talk to us about how do you even do that? Like, you have to register somewhere? Do you fill out forms? Like, who recognizes you as a political party? Definitely. So right now we're, so first of all, to your first question, yes, to rival them, to replace them. We needed to file forms with the FEC. So we're technically viewed right now within the FEC as a political party. Then to get on the ballot within every single state to have certain representatives, you need to get a certain amount of signatures, which are like in the tens of thousands in every state. Bobby Kennedy was doing this whenever he was trying to run. That's right. Yeah. So he, that was a whole thing there. So we're essentially doing that, but from our side, from a side that's not going to just give into the system and, you know, turn our belly up once push comes to shove. And so, yeah. And then, so as my personal, I have a personal political action committee, which is to get me elected. So there's a lot of filing, lots of paperwork. They make it very difficult to find all of this information. I remember whenever I decided to run, it took me five hours just to figure out how many signatures I needed to get on the ballot as a third party. So they don't make it easy. It seems like it might be by design, but I'll leave that up to you to speculate. And yeah, that's kind of where we're at. And so will you guys be registering state by state in order that the put candidates in for Senator or for someone in the House of Representatives in a variety of states? And then will you or Brian, think you said, are you guys going to try to run for president in 2028? Definitely. So yes to all of the above. haven't really decided our, well, let's take a step back here. So yes, that's the goal to have candidates in every single state. We had someone running in Oregon. We had someone running in California, who was our presidential candidate in 2024. Her name's Rachel Fiore. We, I ran in Pennsylvania. And then since then we've probably had three or four more people show interest in running. I myself am only 31. So whenever the next presidential camp election comes around, I'll be 34. So just missing the mark there. We haven't fully discussed with Rachel if she'll be running, but I think we assume that she will be, but we'll see whenever that comes. And yeah, right now it's really just an all out blitz to get our message out there, to let people know that we're here to serve them, serve the next generation. And, you know, it's really going to be a grassroots movement that is all hands on deck from everyone. I gotcha. Yeah, I do remember when uh RFK Jr. left the Democrats and I think became an independent. Getting on the ballot, man, was such a challenge for him. And I think he had a little bit of money behind him with, my gosh, I'm blanking on who he picked for his VP. What is her name again? Was it Shannon something Shannon. Was it Shannon? my gosh. I'm blanking on her name. She's actually, you know, it's funny. I didn't think much of her when she was his VP pick. was like, who is this? This doesn't even make any sense. This is just all a money play. But since then she's been great because she's actually been very critical of RFK Jr. on a lot of his stuff. You know, that's another guy that like, you know, I think. I think everybody got excited with the make America healthy again and you know, all of that energy. And it's like, where is that? Like what happened? It like fell, it fell apart on like day two, it seemed. And you know, I know they've had a couple wins, but I will say that, you know, that excitement of the Republican party and Trump and again, take making America first and all of that stuff that was at its. peak, I think inauguration day, I think the next day it was like deflated and gone. You know, the second Trump brings in, you know, the CEO of Pfizer and Sam Altman to talk about Stargate and and R and a vaccines. And everyone's like, what are you doing, dude? Like what? This is crazy. All right. So you guys, I mean, listen, I give my hats off to you guys for, you know, going for this. So will this be like arrival to like even the libertarian party like how how how close or how similar are you guys to those guys maybe It's a good question. think that, and I don't really, I haven't done a whole lot of research recently on Libertarian Party. I would say that was probably where I identified most with before now. I think Libertarian Party leans a little bit more just kind of do whatever you want as long as it's not illegal or hurting other people. Versus I think that we are finding more of a balance between understanding that there are certain issues that government does need to fix and needs to step in to fix. Whether it's people who physically can't take care of themselves. don't know, they don't have proper education. They don't have proper access to food or proper access to medication, or they've just had the worst string of luck in their entire life. You never know. I mean, I've seen countless homeless videos of people who, you know, they were serving in the military and then this happened and that happened. And I think, and I don't want to put words in their mouth, but my opinion is that the Libertarian Party is more just, well, they need to figure it out. for themselves versus the American Congress party is more, you know, we can't impose on the free market. We need to allow that to exist. However, there are certain things that we should not be. subjugating to the free market, such as our bodies, right? We shouldn't be making profit. The number one goal, whenever it becomes your health or your education, we need to be aligning with things that improve your body, your mind, your spirit. Because if your body's out of alignment, if your mind's out of alignment, if you're juiced up on SSRIs, whatever it is, you're going to be disconnected from your soul and you're going to be disconnected from your mission here on earth. And I think that there's no great. There's no greater mistake as a civilization to allow that to occur. Okay, I've got, yeah, no, I totally agree with that. Do you guys have any religious affiliation? Nothing specifically. I identify as spiritual and I don't want to speak for everyone else, but I assume majority of people would identify as being spiritual. And then were you guys a Republican or Democrat before this? What were you before this? Well, I don't want to speak for everybody again. Everyone has their own journey to this. Myself, I was brought up in a Republican household. So ipso facto, I just identified as that. I was, let's see here, 2015 or 2016. I was in love with Trump. He was saying everything that needed to be said. And then 2015 rolled around. I 2016 rolled around. I voted for him. I loved this guy who was brash. I knew the economy was in trouble. We should get in someone who's an outsider. At least it seemed that way. Right. And then as quickly as I voted for him, I think I felt that just deflation right away. And I slowly started thinking like, what's going on? You know, I actually lost a friend who was not in death, but just like as a friend because they were a huge Hillary supporter. And to me, it just awoken something within me of how is this possible? How can I let politics completely ruin, you know, something that's far more real than these people who were electing. And so it kind of sent me on my own journey in a way. 2020, I actually did vote for the libertarian candidate, which was Joe Jorgensen, I believe. And then this past year I voted for Rachel Fiore. So my background was diehard MAGA to, you know, figuring out that we need to create a new path than what has been presented to us before. That's interesting. Wow. Okay. That's actually, honestly, that, gives you a lot more, not a lot more credibility in my opinion. You know, I, I, I get very interested. Well, I get very interested when I meet people who were like diehard Trump or super, you know, team Trump and they've been disenchanted a little bit. And, and to me, that kind of makes sense because if you don't fall into this, you know, I call it Trump worship syndrome, you know, there's Trump derangement syndrome, which I think is rampant among, you know, so many Democrats and so many people on the liberal side of things. Thank you, Greg Stoker. But there's also, there's also this Trump worship syndrome where people just think the guy can do no wrong. And it's been a, for me personally, it's been, you know, kind of like just a real awakening to be like, okay, you know, I, I did think this was like, using a of Thrones analogy, like the breaker of chains. If there was anybody who was going to do away with the uniparty and, you know, two heads of the same snake or whatever analogy you want to use for the Republicans and Democrats, I really did think it was going to be him. You know, 2016 he comes in, you can even cut him some slack because I don't think he realized what a minefield politics in Washington was. He surrounded himself with the wrong people. He literally brought in neocon after neocon to advise them. John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley, like all of these people are just trash. And now I was like, okay, he's going to be, he learned from all those experiences. And here we are six months in practically. And like, what's the difference? Like there's no difference between him and Biden. I want to ask you about. and I learned this listening to your podcast. Talk to us a little bit about this Greater Israel Project and let's shift gears because I would like your thoughts on Gaza, on what's going on with all that, because I know you've been pretty, pretty voiceless about that. And yeah, man, give us your thoughts there. Yeah. So the greater Israel project is essentially an idea that was perpetuated by the Zionists. And I think that before we dive into this, it's very important that we break apart the difference between Israelis, Jews and Zionists because they're all different and they can overlap. So Jews would be someone who's ethnically or religiously practice Judaism. Israeli would be someone born in Israel or an Israeli citizen, a citizen of Israel. And then you have Zionists who In my opinion, there's not like a hardcore definition, but my opinion and the way I see it used is people who believe that Judaism people are chosen by God, that they are the Supremes of this world, that everyone else should essentially bow before them and that they believe that they are entitled essentially to the world. I mean, that's the way that I see it. Now the greater Israel project, which I'm forgetting the name off the top of my head. But he was essentially the founder, I think, of the project around whenever Israel was created. And the idea was essentially for Israel to extend to the way that it was portrayed in the Bible, which is like, you know, you need to look at it on a map, but it's like parts of Egypt, parts of Yemen, parts of Syria, parts of, like it extends that far out. And so you couple that, that idea, if you will, with what we're seeing happen with the likes of Bibi Netanyahu. who has been videotaped talking about greater Israel and promoting that idea. You couple this with recent events of the prime minister, I believe of the UK. And then you have Macron of France, the president there coming out and saying that they're about to recognize Palestine, Palestine as a state. Yeah. And to which Bibi has responded saying, well, we can't allow that because then that gives Hamas area to fire off weapons into Israel. So by saying that, just by that statement alone, to me indicates that he has no intention of stopping this genocide. He has no intention of killing innocent people. He has no intention of, you know, this, this famine that's going on, the entire world sees it, but he wants to sit there and say, it's not occurring. To me, it fits his agenda of this ethnic cleansing so that he can expand, take over Gaza, take over the West Bank, which they have been doing military operations in recently that nobody's talking about. Right. And then that's just the starting spot. You know, if you, it's again now circumstantial, but if you go back and tie in the wars that America has fought on their behalf, whether it's Iraq, Iran, whether it's Syria, Libya, Yemen, destabilizing governments, you're going to radicalize people against you. mean, that's why they chant death to America, death to Israel, death to the UK. When you're in Iran is because we've destabilized all their neighbors. We've made it a much worse place. I mean, Libya was about to have an economic boon under Gaddafi and then it was like, no, let's not do that. So the key here though, I think is, that, and what I really don't really capture too much of my reels, but I think it's important to mention. We need to learn to stand with the innocent people, whether they're Israeli, whether they're Jewish, whether they're Palestinian, they're Muslim, Ukrainian, Russian. It's the innocent people that die in these wars of, of their rulers who are not interested in peace. who see no consequences of the war. And I think it's probably again, one of the most evil things that happens on this planet is we have these massive exterminations of human life and the leaders see no repercussions whatsoever. They sit in their ivory towers, their families are completely fine. Nothing happens to them, but it's our brothers and sisters who end up dying. So my heart really goes out to all of the innocent people that are in Gaza. all the innocent people that are in Israel who were massively protesting Bibi Netanyahu before October 7th. And all of that disappeared because they basically created a, was it like martial law and said, no, you can't do this anymore. And so you got to realize that it's, it's the leaders. It's not, it's not the countries. It's not all Jews. It's not all Israelis. It's not all Palestinians. It's not all this, not all that. It's the leaders against the innocent people. That was very well said, man. That was very well said. And I agree with you a hundred percent. It is not all one set of people. It is really those leaders. And it's kind of no different when you think about the United States, like again, everybody who lives in the United States should love the United States as a country. They should love us as people, but it's that group of leaders. I mean, you look back and you look back at what George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, that whole NeoCon project for a new American century, what all those guys did, which was quite frankly, fool everybody into 9-11, into a 20 year forever war. And so, you know, that stuff is unforgivable, but they're never held accountable. They're just never held accountable. It's insane. All right. The 20 year war you're mentioning by the way was seven trillion dollars and almost a million lives right lost in the Middle East and I think about 500,000 were civilians and we have to show for it and we did this all under the guise of delivering democracy whenever it was their rulers that they put in charge their rightful kings that we should have just let alone there's no reason for us to be going in and imposing our will we did the same thing in Iran and that's why they shout chat now that to America because we took out and installed the Shah And it's just, it's a pattern that we have seen over and over again within America. And I truly believe that we need to take care of our own house before we could tell anyone else what to do. know, whenever, whenever we see our own people, everyone living like Kings and Queens, when we see gold plated roads outside, everyone's driving in a Bentley, then maybe, maybe at that point we can start telling other people what to do. until that happens, I think it is one of the most hypocritical and ugly things that we can do as a country. Absolutely. Okay, you did a great episode on the big beautiful bill and I honestly have not talked about that very much on this podcast, which is I am remiss in doing that. I should have done that. But you know what? You don't have to get into the weeds on it. But if you want, give us your really your top line thoughts on why the big beautiful bill is not a beautiful bill. top line items is it's all a political game. All these omnibus spending bills are just a political game. And honestly, I think that we need to get rid of omnibus spending bills in general because it can create a lot of confusion and we'll dive into how they do that here. So first of all, the reason Trump wanted this to pass so much was so that he could put on his resume that he gave the no tax on overtime, the no tax on tips, which are all set to expire by the way in 2028. However, they snuck in a a tax deduction, believe for corporations, which does not expire or have any limitations on. And then the nefarious part comes in is whenever they will put in certain things about, let's see here, Thomas Massey did a great job of explaining this. They'll put in things about giving more money to the military or increasing military pay. So if you vote against the omnibus bill, you now just voted against military pay. oh you can get slandered essentially in the media for voting against military pay when the reality is this bill is going to add $5 trillion in debt. Meanwhile, we're already $37 trillion in debt. And I don't know what percentage of your listeners run a bank or not a bank, but a company. I mean, you can just look at your own life. If you're in debt, then things you can't do anything like you're you're beholden to other people. It goes back to that same slave conversation we talked about. I see this as a huge, it was, it was disgusting in my opinion, because you're slapping everybody in the face. You're going online about how it's so great. It's obviously in the name one big, beautiful bill. It's definitely big. was not beautiful. And furthermore, it slapped everything Doge did in the face. They removed so much of waste, fraud and abuse, at least on the surface, right from the media. what it seemed like. And then they turn around and say, well, we're going to raise our debt ceiling $5 trillion. And I think that. I think the American people deserve better. And I think it's apprehensible that we have a Congress that does not respect the will of the people. Yeah, absolutely. You know, you've mentioned Thomas Massey a couple of times. Is that somebody you like? Yeah, I do. think he's very principled. I'm probably not 100 % in line with him ideologically, but I think, let me put it like this, I like anybody who is very clearly voting based on their conscience and what they believe is right for the American people. And the unfortunate thing is, is there's so few of them nowadays that it's really hard to find them. But I see him as being one of them. No, I totally agree. And there are so few of them. You know, the Doge stuff, man, it's like all that stuff was so weird. It's like, what happened to Elon? Where's Elon now? And again, everyone, no, actually nobody's talking about it anymore. It's like things come in and out so fast. There's so much noise in our news cycle. And we've kind of been groomed to like, the crisis de jour or the crisis of the week, what mass shooting happened today, you know, what big event, what submarine exploded, you know, what this, what that, and, you know, the how close Elon and Trump got and then it just exploded. Even that makes no sense to me. Like I don't get it, but I will say I'm kind of glad I see Elon now pushing back on things. Maybe maybe you guys need to get him onto the American Congress party and have him fund you. You know, I always said when he came out with the American party, I said he's one word off. That's funny. How did you guys come up with that? With that, I guess, title for the party. It's a good question. You'd have to ask Brandon Konsei, Sal. I never asked that question, but that is a good question. Okay. All right. What else, man? What else? Anything else that you wanted to share in terms of the party? How do we, how do people find you guys? How do they support you guys? Are you able to fundraise? Like does it happen through your pack or how does that go? Somebody wants to chip in a hundred bucks or a thousand bucks. How does that work? Yeah, we have, I believe we have the donate now all set up on the American Congress party.com you donate directly to the American Congress party in that case. Donating to me specifically, I believe I have it set up as well on my website, which is Clayton Q. Terry. Well, it's Clayton 24 calm, but I need to update that. But yeah, that's essentially how people would donate. And, you know, just in my opinion, I think we have to realize we got to come together at the end of the day, whether you're Democrat or Republican, you know, there's issues that go across the borders and to sit back and think, well, you know, this person votes Democrats, so I don't like them. This person versus Republican, I don't like them is not the case. And I had a crazy experience that really opened my eyes when I was going door to door. So to get signatures, you got to get people in your district. So I'm going door to door, knocking on doors, and I knock on this lady and instantly could just tell she was a Kamala supporter, just instantly. And, know, she's asked me about the policies that I believe in, what my ideas are. And so I'm telling her and she's like, wow, this is amazing. This is so great. I'm going to sign. If I see you on the ballot, I'll vote for you. This is amazing. oh And as I turned to leave, she's like, by the way, that guy next door, like good luck getting him to sign. I'm like, what do you mean? He, she's like, Tom, he, he won't sign. You'll see. I'm like, okay, we'll see. So I go and knock on Tom's door and right when he opens just. He's wearing like a MAGA hat. He's probably got some guns in the corner of the room, just instantly could see it. And I'm like, this is what she meant. So I get talking to Tom. The next thing you know, five minutes later, he's like, this is amazing. This is great. How do I support you guys? What do we do? I'm like, well, let's start off by signing here. I'll give you, you know, my business card and we'll see what happens. And so walking away from that, I realized that, you know, we We are very disconnected from our neighbors. We're disconnected from talking about the things that actually matter most in our lives, such as the quality of the food that you're putting in your mouth, the quality of water you're putting in your mouth. And we've become very divided. I mean, I think that was a whole social programming aspect of COVID, know, stay inside, don't talk to people, become anxious. And so I think that we need to get back to realizing that we have far more in common than we do set different. And the more that we realize that the more that we realize that this television is, is lying to us, it's deceiving us. You know, like you even said, there's always something new, new on the news and it's only what they want you to think about. It's what they want you to talk about. And the more you can kind of pull yourself away from that, the more you can see the bigger picture, the more you can. Connect if you will, to your inner divinity. And that's really when you get to start experiencing freedom and you get to start playing out your divine role here on earth. Yeah, absolutely. You I thought, I thought after you got Tom's signature, I thought you were going to say, and then Tom said, Hey, good luck getting the lady next door to sign. So that would have been funny for what she probably was thinking, but you what? You made a great point, man. Our neighbors that are disconnected now, you know, left was a lot better and simpler back. You know, 20 years ago, even longer than that, where it was like, you know, any town USA, like I look back, I grew up in Ohio and I look back to where I grew up at. I mean, yeah, it was simple, but it was beautiful. It was fantastic. It was like, leave the house at eight in the morning, come back at eight o'clock at night, you know, eat lunch at friend's house and not have a care in the world and not be looking at devices, but be out there playing and riding your bike. And you know, that Americana man, we need to tap back into that. And maybe the American Congress party can help us tap back into, you know, Americana. I see it as a possibility. I see it as maybe Americana 2.0 because I think that there were definitely still a lot of issues that we may not have been privy to. And I'll go back to that Tom thing real quick. I did forget a piece of that, that whenever he did go to sign, right before he started writing his signature, he like was shocked because he saw the name of the person next door. And he was like, you got her to sign? Like what? Like that doesn't make sense. That's funny, that's funny. Hey, you know what? You might've repaired their neighborly relationship, so there's already one step in the right direction. All right, listen, man, I know you're a little pressed for time today. I have one ask of you, and that is you gotta come back on. And I don't know if that's next year or when it's election time, but obviously we wanna keep updated as to what's going on and understanding how you're making the progress. I think it'll be interesting for people to understand. how it's going on a state by state level and whether you guys can get on all of the ballots and then really what it takes to get on the national ballot for the president of the United States in 2028. Man, that would be amazing. If you end up winning, that'll be super cool. I will have interviewed a president of the United States. Well, it might not be until 2032. So it'll either be 2032 or 2030, what 2038. Yeah. 2036. So yeah, so you'll be able to have that mantle, get the little ribbon ready, but you can put over it. yeah, that's, mean, look, you, you know, I, I don't want to come across as arrogant. I hopefully this comes across more as confident, but I think what people don't realize is when you start to purify your body, you start to purify your mind, you you reduce the stress in your life, you become calm. Then you can start seeing your path in life. You get to see with what I call your inner eye, which is kind of this, I would say your soul, if you will, that will show you the path you're on in life and it will guide you to where you need to go. And I do this on my podcast with traveling to consciousness. I do those Indigo education podcasts. I don't know if you got a chance to look at those, but They're very spiritual in nature and they will awaken your inner eye to seeing what the future holds, to seeing what things will unfold in your life if you're open to it. so, you know, it's, it's not a matter of, I understand there's a lot more I need to learn, but you know, I'm very confident in the fact that one day we'll be president. So I'm happy I can give you that pleasure. I love that man. By the way, did you grow up Catholic or Christian? Did you grow up religiously? I was born Presbyterian and do you want the long bit of it? Give me whatever you want to give So I grew up Presbyterian and it was about high school. So it might've been like 2012-ish whenever the gay rights movement was happening that gay should be married. Now personally, I think there's a whole conversation around marriage, putting that to the side regarding rights, I think everyone should have the same equal rights. So the fact that a man and woman can get married, of course, man and man, woman, woman, whatever, as long as everyone's consenting, it's legal, know, go. Absolutely. thing that shocked me is I was a Presbyterian and the entire Presbyterian denomination decided that they were going to change the Bible. It no longer would say between a man and a woman, it would say between two people. And it shocked me because I was like, this is our sacred holy text. Are we allowed to change this? And that sent me down a rabbit hole of has this been changed before? And so all of that kind of like unwound of And that was the first time I went super viral on TikTok. The account has now been deleted because of speaking too much things that people don't want you to speak about. But the big thing was like talking about certain texts that didn't make it into the Bible that were texts of Jesus as followers to realize that the Bible was put together 400 years after Jesus was on earth to realize Jesus probably spoke Aramaic and Greek, but then the Bible was written in Latin. And then you got to change it from Latin to Greek to Greek to English. So you're losing a whole bunch of contextual items. And so it got to this point with me where I was like, what, what am I allowed to trust here? You know? And so I think that there are things in the Bible that are truthful and that's what hooks people. But then there's things in there that will kind of teeter you. It'll kind of pull you away from your inner eye. If you will, it'll close you off. It'll, it'll disconnect you from your soul and your spirit. Now, whether that's on purpose or by accident. I'll leave that up for the individuals to decide, but I do believe that, you know, there are truth, Jesus existed. I, you know, I have a picture of Jesus behind me. And so I think that he set a good role model. I believe in him. I connect to him, if you will, however you do that, whether you pray or however you want to define it. And so, you know, that really sent me down a path of like, what is true. And so I started just studying, studying every religion I could for the most part. And so when I say I'm spiritual, I believe that there's this underlying bedwork of interconnectivity between all of the religions. think that, you know, spirituality, people can define it how they want, but I see it as we're all one family. We're all children of the same creator, whether you want to say God, source, nature, spirit, Allah, they're all the same. And, you know, maybe, you know, Ray, you're like a dad to me or like a brother to me, or maybe a cousin and the more I've started realizing that you have that connection with every single person you talk to. And so if you want a fun little challenge, if you will, or a fun little experiment, next time you're talking with people who aren't related to you, see what category they fit under. Some people will feel like a dad, some a son, maybe a sister, a brother, maybe girlfriend, maybe cousin, aunt, uncle. It's all there. It's all right in front of our eyes, but you know, we've created this disconnection from within ourselves and religiously, they put it in the church or they put it in the synagogue or they, you know, it's, you have to go through someone else to connect to source or to nature, to God. When the reality is, that it's within us. We were created out of that divine beauty and it's up to us to reconnect to it. Love it, man. Love it. Alright, listen. Hang on the line. Alright, everybody. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Clayton Cutary and the American Congress Party. Keep that on the front burner because I have a feeling you're going to be hearing that a lot more. And yeah, let's watch these guys make a run at hopefully dismantling this two-party system, which I think is the... bane of our existence and has been for a long time and it is actually refreshing that people are seeing that people are calling that out and especially refreshing that guys like Clayton are actually doing something about it. anyway call a spade a spade everybody Clayton hang on the line. All right we'll talk to you guys soon. This episode was brought to you by Zypex Nicotine Toothpicks. Zip more, smoke less. Totally satisfying, discreet, and delicious. Zypex Nicotine-infused toothpicks are available in six great flavors, each containing at least two milligrams of nicotine to curb those cravings. Zypex is FDA-registered and proudly made in the USA. Use discount code DSD for 10 % off your order at zypextoothpicks.com. Zip more, smoke less, save 10%.