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In a special crossover episode, Justin and John sit down for a wide-ranging conversation with the hosts of Beyond Politics, Paul Hodes and Matt Robison. 

Paul is a former U.S. Congressman who represented Justin and John's home district in New Hampshire. Matt is a senior political strategist who served as Paul's chief of staff. Together, the group talk about the changes to the American political system that they've observed over their careers, with shifts in media and technology dramatically reshaping how the public understand and respond to news events.

For Part 2 of this discussion, listen to the Beyond Politics podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-politics/id1369437819