On this week’s @weheardwonders, soaring singer-songwriter Nadine Shah sings her life, MGMT add slacker alt-rock shagginess to their usual neo-psych, and Real Estate return. We also discuss the remarkable story of how Kurdish/Syrian singer & bouzouki player Mohammad Syfkhan found himself performing at the Cork Opera House, and spin a track from Ghost Funk Orchestra’s new “jazz-funk space odyssey” - are we along for the trip? Finally, Andrew won’t let the small matter of his records being in storage get in the way of selecting something stately by an art-pop elder-statesman for The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends that we’re back; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).
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On this week’s @weheardwonders, soaring singer-songwriter Nadine Shah sings her life, MGMT add slacker alt-rock shagginess to their usual neo-psych, and Real Estate return. We also discuss the remarkable story of how Kurdish/Syrian singer & bouzouki player Mohammad Syfkhan found himself performing at the Cork Opera House, and spin a track from Ghost Funk Orchestra’s new “jazz-funk space odyssey” - are we along for the trip? Finally, Andrew won’t let the small matter of his records being in storage get in the way of selecting something stately by an art-pop elder-statesman for The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends that we’re back; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).
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Andrew's iPhone: Hello and welcome to. We heard wonders, the music podcast that's feeling, rough feeling raw in the prime of their lives.
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Andrew's iPhone: you're in a temporary change of venue, an undisclosed location somewhere in the south side of Glasgow. I believe
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Andrew's iPhone: I am. I am
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Andrew's iPhone: But so yeah, you're in the midst of the midst of the house. Move.
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Andrew's iPhone: I am. The wreckers got boxed.
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Andrew's iPhone: I managed to complete that task. And yet, as you say, I'm just.
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Andrew's iPhone: and a temporary location for a few days. I wonder how we're gonna keep up the facade of you actually, physically pulling down a record for the final words. If, in fact, you won't be able to do that.
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Andrew's iPhone: or going into my secret stash.
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Andrew's iPhone: So yes, I'm within lows for a few weeks. For a few days.
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Andrew's iPhone: week or so. Very nice. Very nice. Yeah, it's very comfortable.
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Andrew's iPhone: And hopefully, I'm I'm sending. Okay.
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Alternate Line: no, it's nice. I do like staying with my in laws as well on the infrequent occasions. I have to do it. So it's very
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Alternate Line: nice, very luxurious. I'm sure you're feeling the same.
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Andrew's iPhone: It is nice. But yeah, I'm I'm hunched over a kind of awkward angle here to be as close to the microphone as possible. So yeah, I'm suffering from my art this week. Hope you, all your podcast listeners appreciate it.
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Alternate Line: your lower back will not thank you for for this week's broadcasting. If this podcast lasts 15 min, that's probably why, good, anyway. Nice to chat with you. It's nice to see you. Yeah, would you like to introduce yourself.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, indeed. My name's Andrew. I buy records and write about them on Instagram at Kid A. JH. 86.
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Alternate Line: If Instagram music pages were fish. yours would be salmon.
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Alternate Line: I like salmon. I like salmon, so that's good.
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Alternate Line: No summer's summer's okay. You can't polish a turbot.
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Alternate Line: But there you go. Okay. So I mean, I'm in Glasgow band. The deadline shakes and he can get all our things on social media at a deadline shakes and we are ready to music, podcast, like a couple of music Podcasters. Although you did claim, just before we started that you had nothing to see which is slightly.
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Andrew's iPhone: just kind of naturally knew how to do it. Yeah, well, anyone who's listening is actually interested in
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Alternate Line: podcasting as well as music as I find a lot of people listen to podcasts like the concept as well as you know the topic. It was talking about like telling a little story. For your listeners. You know. And then we call to action and all that kind of stuff. And we do. We do do those things. We do try, we do try, there is thought
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Alternate Line: and going on in here. Yeah. And the format that we've landed on is the one that works best all of our most popular podcasts that had the most lessons. All use this format. So that's the one we that's the one, we kind of prefer. Really, I think.
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Andrew's iPhone: pretty much. Yeah, I think, apart from the short braveweight, one looks like our most popular one. But yeah. anyone that doesn't include true braveweight
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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, I'll I really love love that Brittany Howard records. I've I've listened to that a few more times this week, and it's
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Andrew's iPhone: there's just a lot of really kind of cool variety to that record, and a lot to kind of delve into with it so, and continuing to enjoy that.
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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, II enjoyed our a little chat about your endorse because that's the big, the big takeaway from, we actually got a text from
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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.
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Andrew's iPhone: and Nathan Nathan Hoyle. He was saying that he was catching up with a previous episode, and that I was exactly right when I identified like a Basa
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Andrew's iPhone: as as the percussive instrument, so cause he's he's obviously a you know. He's he's a
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Andrew's iPhone: so so II felt very chuffed, cause you need to be accurate with your perusal instruments.
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Alternate Line: speaking of American sausages, how's that for the segue? This is not that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. What's what's up this week.
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Andrew's iPhone: Here we go this week. We have new music from Nadin Shah. real estate.
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Andrew's iPhone: Mohammed Savkan. MGMT. And Ghostfunk Orchestra
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Alternate Line: goods eclectic mix this week as well, although I do think it can't be a coincidence that we've brought on an artist called Real Estate when you're moving house.
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Alternate Line: he closely knows. Anyway, this first track's a roster. So let's just get straight in about it. This is Nadine Shah with topless mother. There we go!
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I want to see what's yours is mine. what you don't hang out on your washing lay. I want to be inside your mind
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topless mode that is hidden in. Wanna get inside your house. Want to have a profit
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when you were born you broke the moan. Seen that try.
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have heard. and do you promise not to breathe? Look at you
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edge of your seat. I pay you.
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You take a bath. Aesa.
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the saddest
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You have some
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Alternate Line: which is quite a provocative title. I would say. That's got no relation to 11 with like in laws at the moment.
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Alternate Line: Yeah, it's quite. It's quite a provocative track, all things considered, really, isn't. It goes beyond the title. It really does sort of challenge you in a way.
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Andrew's iPhone: element to it. Yeah.
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Alternate Line: you've given your chat about Nadine, and which is always very helpful to the listener. So sorry last time, but here I go. So the chorus lydic is sinatra viagra iguana, sharia, Diana, Samoa, verruca tequila banana.
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Andrew's iPhone: Alaska medusa gorilla which sounds like either a cryptic crossword puzzle or a cross offletic from smells like team spirit that doesn't make the final cut.
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Alternate Line: and joke. Here we go. But yeah, I was thinking, verruca tequila, banana sounds like the worst shot you ever done on the night.
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Alternate Line: Yeah, so, but please details. But, Nadine, because this is a very beginning summer. I'm sort of sound like I'm taking the best of it. I'm really. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, I'll give you a bit of background. So Nadine Shah was born in Whitburn, South Teest Tyneside.
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Andrew's iPhone: to an English mother from South Shields of part Norwegian ancestry and a Pakistani father she moved to London at the age of 17 to start her career as a jazz singer.
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Andrew's iPhone: where she developed a close friendship with Amy Winehouse. but for for a while. and as you can hear on this track over time, she has gone more in a kind of rock
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Andrew's iPhone: when I first heard Nadine Shah's music a kind of early recordings. I was perhaps a little quick to dismiss her. Maybe, as I can a
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Andrew's iPhone: pay limitation of Anna Calvey or PG. Harvey, but over subsequent records. So there was holiday destination in 2017 that was nominated for the Mercury prize and 20 twenties critically acclaimed kitchen sink. She's proven herself to be a really kind of unique voice, I think, and she's got a really kind of compelling story to tell as well.
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Andrew's iPhone: And there's always a kind of dark drama to what she does. And increasingly, there's a kind of electronic hum as well. That's kind of reminiscent of the Pesh mode who she has recently supported on tour.
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Andrew's iPhone: and who she shares a producer with Ben Hillier, and who's been co-writing and producing with shas pretty much since the beginning since 2013
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Andrew's iPhone: and there's always been a kind of journalistic eye to her writing.
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Andrew's iPhone: She's a big advocate for the power of journalism and music criticism at one of our lockdown projects was that she turned the tables and she record the series of interviews with music journalists where she was asking them questions which were actually really good. Which I'd recommend people checking them out on Youtube particularly enjoyed the one with lot of snapes that she did.
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Andrew's iPhone: And and yes, she's always been very kind of outspoken about her experiences, and been able to kind of write about them in a really kind of frank and moving way. So she's talked about er
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Andrew's iPhone: friends taking their own lives. Immigration. being a young Muslim female in the music, industry, and the kind of difficulties that come with that. and as well as being outspoken on racism
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Andrew's iPhone: and musicians, dwindling incomes as well. So yes, so she's not afraid to kind of
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Andrew's iPhone: And and there's a lot of life experience that's going into this new record here. and which is our first and 3 years. So in that 3 years she's experienced an overwhelming amount of turmoil in her life. So she nursed her mum through terminal cancer.
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Andrew's iPhone: And then she ultimately entered. Rehab as well.
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Andrew's iPhone: and we get insights to all of that on this record, filthy underneath. And
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Andrew's iPhone: and you're saying that there's that kind of that. Those those words kind of seem quite random in the chorus. But
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Andrew's iPhone: what apparently inspired that was that it set
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Andrew's iPhone: inspired by a free word association exercise that she would do with her therapist. Do you know what's mad is? I kinda guessed that.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah way in the same way.
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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, and I, I'll in terms of other aspects this track I love the kind of link really like twang to the electric guitar. As you say, it's kind of got that kind of metallic metallic quality. There's a double track vocals which work really well.
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Andrew's iPhone: And then the African influence post punk drums
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Andrew's iPhone: of the kind that you would get on like a bow. Wow! Wow! Record as well, which really Ca, everything, all the all the all. The instrumentation just adds a real kind of sense of menace and attack to the whole thing that I think works really really well.
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Andrew's iPhone: reading on that. I don't think so I decided not to bother any further. But you, you get any insight on that, or is just as puzzled as me. Yeah, I was a bit bit puzzled by that. Apparently the whole track was inspired by a series of comically tense exchanges with her previous counselor.
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Andrew's iPhone: If that she felt that she wasn't getting anywhere with the patient, so it's like she was. It's like she would like turn the tables on the patient, which sounds absolutely bizarre.
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Andrew's iPhone: and Nadine didn't respond well to it, so she said. It's a song about counsel I work with that I couldn't get along with. I'm pretty certain the feeling was mutual, and also pretty certain that she'd find this funny. Some people just don't click and some Arcel's. Let me write songs about it kind of like a there's a sense of humor to the whole thing as well. And and she she's really good for that in her writing, as I say, she's she's got a real kind of eye for detail.
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Andrew's iPhone: and 1 one of the one of the kind of key tracks in the album's called sad Lads anonymous, which is, which is really really great. It's got really kind of cool, like spoken word
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Andrew's iPhone: thing going on. And yeah. So the album's her fifth album overall. It's called filthy underneath. As I said. it's the inaugural release on Emior.
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Andrew's iPhone: which I think she'd be proud of, because she's really kind of proud of her North East roots.
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Andrew's iPhone: And and yeah, I think it's a really strong record. Very self lacerating, full of self doubt, but also swaggering and confident in terms of the way that it's executed musically, I think.
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Andrew's iPhone: And there's there's just these kind of big tent pole tracks throughout the record. So there's there's this one. There's another previous track called 20 things.
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Andrew's iPhone: I don't know if you've heard that one. I think you would really like it if you heard it's got this really kind of cool radio head like groove to it.
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Andrew's iPhone: it. References, various tales of hardship and abuse belonging to to those that show was in recovery with. So it's kind of like she's kind of taking their stories and
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Andrew's iPhone: and kind of talking about them in the song. and some some of whom never haven't made it out of recovery.
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Andrew's iPhone: And and didn't. And yeah, it just didn't didn't make it basically
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Andrew's iPhone: so yeah, a really kind of lovely track. And then there's there's free tracks at the center of the record. Tha, that are really kind of hulking and
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Andrew's iPhone: powerful track, so that it was one called keeping score. Sad lads, anonymous that I mentioned, and greatest dancer as well. So shall I, as I say, those those kind of ones form the kind of basis of the record there's there's a few others that that are maybe a little bit less
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Andrew's iPhone: er essential, maybe. But I say overall, it's a strong record for her.
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Alternate Line: Very good. Can I finish off this review of Nadine Shab? I just briefly talking about Ben Hellier, the producer. I wanna play I wanna play a little game with you. Okay, kill. I'm gonna give you 3 Ben produced tracks. You have to marry one, you have to snog one, you have to kill one. Okay, here. Your options. I hope. I think you'll know all 3 of these without any a anybody's. Okay? So first track is out of time. By blur.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Okay.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yup, II agree completely. Yeah, just everything's at its right place with this track, I think. And yeah, I haven't always felt that way about.
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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, really, really enjoy it. Those backend vocals, I think, are very rem. Yeah. It was for la me. And there's even like a there's an REM. Song called Falling me so I don't know if that's just like a kind of deliberate reference there. But
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Alternate Line: Let's do that. Okay, so next track, and I'll just warn you and the lessons and everything that. And this involves a change of music procedure here. So if I screw this up, I'm really really sorry. And whilst I'm doing that, Joanne, just let us know who who we've got what we're listening to.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yep. So this is a guy called Mohammed Sifkan who is a Kurdish Syrian singer
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Andrew's iPhone: and just started dancing around in my room for about a minute before you noticed which was weird, and then you gave it some as well. I guess one. I think that's one of the great. The great things about that track is, it is just so
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Andrew's iPhone: which is really cool. Yeah. On the back of like what happened to his family as well. He he just kind of he he kind of like practices. This kind of message of like
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Alternate Line: story feels that the wrong world, because obviously it's the guys lived experience, you know what I mean? But I mean as as a story as well by definition. So you should spend some time reading about that as well if you get the chance pals. Okay. So now, onto something.
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Andrew's iPhone: and at any point during their 5, because they've got 5 albums. Now, at any point during that kind of 5 album sent in a catalog. That could be the moment where you think that they've either peaked or they've dropped the ball, or you've just kind of lost interest.
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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I mean, there's there's lots there's lots that's happened since those those early singles, and that that incredible success of that first album which I think took the band by surprise as much as anybody else.
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Andrew's iPhone: adulation and rock style lifestyle which they ended up being presented with off the back of the success of that that track in that album. And yeah, I mean, there is a sense that they've kind of been trying to escape from that ever since to a degree, but also being pulled back at different points.
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Andrew's iPhone: So they're an interesting band, I think, in a lot of ways. But yeah, it doesn't surprise me that I don't think you'll be alone in in saying that you just didn't, didn't investigate or didn't bother, or.
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Andrew's iPhone: I think so? Yeah, it's it's got more of a kind of mid nineties. Flame, Liz fib to me like, kind of yeah, cloud taste, metallic eater.
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Alternate Line: Yeah, I can see that with that sort of like a role looking sort of Cynthy, but also rocky feel. And I'll tell you what even those guitars I'll send you like Alan Hansen will say that. I'll tell you. I'll tell you with my guitar. So those arrive in the middle of the song. There's definitely better queens of the stone agenda. And I'd say this is the Queen's of the Stone Age. Obsessive of this podcast this sort of
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Alternate Line: I don't know. II don't know what it's too much of, but something about it just makes me a little
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Andrew's iPhone: okay.
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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, maybe it is that kind of inscrutable quality that you're talking about?
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Andrew's iPhone: yeah. I mean, they've been on a really kind of strange journey since. Miraculous spectacular so.
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Andrew's iPhone: who we've talked about before. In the podcast meant for buyers of that record the casual buyers. They probably that album probably came across as kind of mean spirited a little bit
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Andrew's iPhone: of a kind of chorus free retreat into the shadows. Really it was. It was like, it was like the kind of the band were almost like, yeah, retreating from their own success. But for other people, and I'd probably include myself in this. It was probably it felt like an expression of
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Andrew's iPhone: kind of kind of like a like a cult band really in in a lot of ways that that just kind of happened to have a massive success of a record. And so yes, I think congratulations. They were kind of drawn on people like Julian Cope
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Andrew's iPhone: and the the really kind of obscure band Disco Inferno. television personalities. There's a track called Dan Tracy. Dan Tracy was the lead singer of television personalities.
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Andrew's iPhone: And so that there's like a lot of references to like Eno and his kind of sonic adventures, and people like Todd Rodgers as well. So I think that's kind of where they felt more comfortable than the more kind of mainstream end of things I would suggest.
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Andrew's iPhone: But but congratulations is now kind of seen as this modern Psyche touchstone for a lot of people. As I say, myself included.
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Andrew's iPhone: a really cool but quite odd site record. And the third album was even
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Andrew's iPhone: trickier to get a handle on this really kind of naughty, strange album. That was the self titled one. But again, people are kind of rediscovering that
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Andrew's iPhone: and trying to kind of make sense of it. And then the fourth record, a lot of people jump back on board for the fourth record, which was called Little Dark Age.
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Andrew's iPhone: Unlikely. A tiktok hit em, and that's got over 600 million view air lessons at this point.
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Andrew's iPhone: Th, they're doing that. And I think there's like a sense of that to this track, like I was when I was thinking about. What? What do they mean by a bubble gone? Gum dog? I was kinda thinking at first it was maybe like kind of comment on
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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. So when when they talk about there's that line that says the years of plodding on in fear of the bubble. Gum, dog! It's finally catching up with me. So it's it's almost as if they've been kind of running from
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Andrew's iPhone: some other kind of natural instincts to be a Pop band. and it's maybe something that they're still kind of grappling with a little bit, but maybe trying to make you know, did I come to terms with that a little bit?
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Andrew's iPhone: So when they say you and me, we'll keep it calm. Eyebrowdum, I bubble dum dog. Maybe that's them, you know. Come, as I say, kind of coming to terms with their
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Alternate Line: It's a it's interesting definition of bubble gum, though, cause I had no 1 1 as well. Which, when I was reading about the track, II saw this theory in a in a few different places. And we call that triangulation.
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Andrew's iPhone: delete that? Yeah, and and the the album. So the new album's called Loss of life, and I've been listening to it this week.
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Andrew's iPhone: and it's it's kind of blending the immediate with the inscrutable, the light in the dark, the good taste and the bad taste, and a very kind of typically Mgm. T. Style.
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Andrew's iPhone: So post radar was the the screen writer of taxi driver, raging bull and the last temptation of Christ. So it's that kind of idea of. you know. a a Romcom gun
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Andrew's iPhone: actually made me think that I've not listened to that track, and far too long, but it's a good track. There's a track called dancing in Babylon, featuring Christine in the Queens, which is just unapologetically bombastic and fun in a kind of eighties power ballad way.
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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, they're they're all kind of near the the kind of front end of the the album, and then the side B's
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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of in a similar way to what the flame lips did in their last album. American head. So it's like that. They're kind of pulling from different
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Andrew's iPhone: eaters of the flame lips. And yeah, so I feel like, I'm only kind of scratching the surface of the album. Really, I think there's plenty to delve in with into with it. But
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Andrew's iPhone: It's just just in terms of, you know, psychedelic music. I think they're kind of one of the kind of
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Andrew's iPhone: Good? Yeah, I'm glad. And we have played the ghost orchestra before on the part.
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Andrew's iPhone: and
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Andrew's iPhone: but for anybody that's coming to them fresh and ghostwrite orchestra is the Brainchild, or producer, musician and arranger Seth Applebum and it's a project that started off as a kind of one man project. And over time it's become this
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Andrew's iPhone: massive 10 piece, especially alive. It's just this big live extravaganza now. And and yeah, I mean, when you we say it's just something that Andrew would like. That is true.
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Andrew's iPhone: I've I've I've been enjoying this project for a while. So we we had
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Andrew's iPhone: a song for Paul in 2019, which is, there's really kind of cool.
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Andrew's iPhone: sick soul record with esoteric
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Andrew's iPhone: it, kind of undertones and elements to it. And there was the 2020
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Andrew's iPhone: to record the new kind of love which was kind of more of the same, but even more so.
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Andrew's iPhone: And and that was, that was, that was the record that we that we talked about on the pod.
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Andrew's iPhone: and then in between them was the album that maybe this is kind of most closely related to which was called an ode to Escapism which was
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Andrew's iPhone: kind of like a a series of tracks which they tried to kind of fame was a concept by by including these interludes, which which kind of worked as
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Andrew's iPhone: mindfulness mantras. So the the idea for the record was the kind of conceit was that it was this kind of self help. air audiobook.
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Andrew's iPhone: and it was just kind of like, lulling you to sleep kind of thing. On on on the record. So so yeah, so so there's there's there's attempts to kind of make these conceptual style records and the concept, this time around. The album's called a Trip to the moon.
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Andrew's iPhone: And it's a self, proclaimed jazz funk space. Odyssey. inspired by Eddie Palmieri. Dusty, Springfield, and War
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Andrew's iPhone: and Em. The story is is the story of a woman who's stranded on Earth by her cosmonaut partner left to ponder, left to ponder his whereabouts, and whether or not he'll make it back from the cosmos alive.
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Andrew's iPhone: and it's as tied to cover as you hear at the start and end of that track by these real life recorded transmissions from the Apollo landings Paul Moon missions, including the 1969, Moon Landing.
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Andrew's iPhone: So it's it's all very cool, and it's all very kind of my street. So there's this kind of a sixties sci fi sixties spy
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Andrew's iPhone: And the almost
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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, I mean, I suppose, anything that kind of references. The space race now is kind of retro Futurist, but just by just by its nature. But the the it does it. It does a good. I wouldn't say it kind of tells a kind of.
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Andrew's iPhone: a cohesive story. But it does a good. Those those clips, those snippets kind of do a good job of
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Andrew's iPhone: weaving together a lot of the tracks on on the record. And yeah, I mean, the album's kind of
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Andrew's iPhone: pretty evenly split between instrumental and vocal led tracks. And and then you get these kind of big brassy fanfares. You get some really kind of cool fuzz guitar
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Andrew's iPhone: and then you've got this track that goes from this kind of jazzy torch song to this histrionic bond theme within a matter of seconds like it just goes from like
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Andrew's iPhone: one to a hundred with a matter of seconds, is like a rocket. Take rocket taking off really?
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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I mean, the first time I heard that track that moment, about a minute and 30, into the track where she just goes from, kind of being quite composed to just totally bailing out like I was like totally caught off guard the first thing, and then, like the second time, I wasn't sure if it really worked, I wasn't sure if it was maybe to sudden a shift. But more of listen to the track the more I feel like it's. It's kind of audacious, but it kind of works as well, I think.
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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I'm not sure if it is, maybe gonna hinder its
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Andrew's iPhone: playability on the radio. I think maybe people would be like like playlisters who maybe would be a bit kind of reluctant to play it just in case it kind of shocks, shocks drivers on the cars and swerve off the road. Yeah.
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Andrew's iPhone: but but no, I think I think it kind of works.
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Andrew's iPhone: yeah.
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Andrew's iPhone: I don't know if you remember. I don't know if you remember the last track by them that we played. It was this kind of like loungey.
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Andrew's iPhone: sick soul thing. But it was like disrupted by this relaying Congress. Scrunky saxophone.
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Andrew's iPhone: The the the. I remember you saying that you just couldn't get on board, and the saxophone was played by somebody wearing a giant fish head in the video. Which but but yeah, but but certainly that that kind of sudden
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Andrew's iPhone: burst in the track here is that kind of incongruous. most modern element, I guess, which they kind of bring. You know you're you're talking about the fact that it's got something but kind of stranger going on.
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I think I think there is always like kind of a bit of a postmodern twist, a bit of kind of remove from what they do.
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Andrew's iPhone: That kind of marks out as being modern, even though they're kind of pulling on a lot of
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Alternate Line: a virtual sound. It's hard, isn't it? Because the the plane in a musical style that is definitely well trodden. And there's like, you know, there's a lot of
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Alternate Line: standards out there that you could. You could go to, and there's even like clubs in Glasgow. You can go on a Sunday afternoon. You can hear people play music not unlike this
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Alternate Line: if you know where to look. So they're then trying to think, okay, so this is the music that we love. We want to make it. But we also have other, more experimental ideas. And just seems like, maybe this is a musical style that
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Alternate Line: unusual or postmodern ideas, and sometimes, like. you know, it feels a little odd that this begins and ends with chatter from Apollo 11.
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Alternate Line: And then is the music that it is in the inside, you know, I mean, and I guess we're. I guess we're more used to. Then, as you said, I think he used the phrase.
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Alternate Line: Rachel Futurists were more used to like, if you're gonna have something like a voice over from a poll. 11. We're expecting like some sense wave, you know, something like that. And what is this is something that's
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Alternate Line: The the scrunking saxophone from before. Yes, I do remember the the last time you listen to them. And this is this is way. Better. This is at least like this is a song so I can get on board with this for sure.
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Alternate Line: anyway, I have to say, as we reach the end of our 5 new new tracks this week.
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Alternate Line: Nadine Shah, and real estate, and Mohammad Shakin and Mgmt. And the Ghost Fund orchestra.
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Alternate Line: I think it's a really strong lineup of tracks this week. There's probably not
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Alternate Line: and maybe Mgm, Tsite, there's not really a superstar amongst this lineup again. It's a fairly kind of you know eclectic
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Alternate Line: And I definitely think this was a. This was a good selection. Now, the reason I'm really seeing that is because I stayed up till half past one last night doing some work.
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Alternate Line: and all day. I've been really, really, really grumpy.
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Alternate Line: So you've managed to like drag positivity right out of me with this, with this selection of music. So that's
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Andrew's iPhone: and yeah, I think the Mohammed
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Andrew's iPhone: Cifcan record's been out a couple of weeks, but all the others were out on Friday there. So yeah, it was a bit of a bumper week.
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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Good one.
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Alternate Line: Okay. Good for us. So it's time now to move ourselves on to a weekly segment she've already told you don't have records on the walls anymore. But yeah, so this is the final work put under takes something from his actual genuine record collection. And currently, in storage somewhere, and connects it sometimes, and I can, you know.
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Alternate Line: very clever way, and sometimes in a bit of a kind of just I wanted to play this. Who cares? Kind of way? But this week I think he's made a he's made the greatest slick little connection. I think you'll all agree when you hear it. And podcast storytelling tells me that I should now make a call to arms, to my listeners. So here we go those of you who enjoyed this week's podcast are probably wondering, hey.
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Andrew's iPhone: can I support these guys in their future podcasting in davos? And do you know what, Andrew. They they can, they absolutely can.
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Alternate Line: Yes, they just take themselves along to Www. Dot buy me a coffee.com slash. We had wonders and drop us a couple of pennies in there for a cold brew. And we'll keep making podcasts for you does that sound like a deal. Yes, it does, and over to you over to you.
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Andrew's iPhone: I thank you. Yes. So the vinyl word this week my initial thought
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Andrew's iPhone: process was I was taking the real estates track
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Andrew's iPhone: water underground. So my first thought was, let's play something by the velvet underground
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Andrew's iPhone: and then I was considering the artist's name checked by MGMT. On their congratulations. Lp, so you had Dan Tracy, as I said, from the television personalities, or perhaps Brian Eno.
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Then it occurred to me that I could have Brian Eno covering the velvet underground.
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the ship, which is the 20 sixth
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Andrew's iPhone: Soul studio album from Brian Eno.
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Andrew's iPhone: It was a project inspired by Eno when he realized that he had this new low voice that he could sing in
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Andrew's iPhone: that kind of being brought about by the.
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you know, the passage of time. Basically.
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Andrew's iPhone: And so yes, it was. It was one of the first records in a long time what he was using his voice, and more prominently. And and yeah, this is the closing track, which I think is just a stunning, stately reading of the velvets. I'm set free.
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Andrew's iPhone: See you next week, guys.
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