New Music - Kosmischer Läufer! Alan Sparhawk! Ezra Collective! Upupayãma! Nubya Garcia!

Yippie-yi-o! Yippie-yi-yay! Pod-casters in the sky! Yer loyal @weheardwonders cowboys Iain and Andrew round up and review the latest musical offerings from cosmic runner and hoaxer(?) Kosmischer Läufer, quiet titan of alternative music Alan Sparhawk, London jazz party-starters Ezra Collective, acid-folk-psych-rock mountain-dweller Upupayãma and sax ’n’ string supremo Nubya Garcia. Something lovely and lunar-related has the Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).

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And

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and old Count Pope went riding out one dark and windy day.

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a ridge he rested as he went along his way, when all at once a mighty herd of red eyed cows he saw plowing through the ragged brush and up the plow he draws

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come on.

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Their brands were still on fire, and their hoes were laid. Asteam

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horns were black and shiny, and their hot breaths he could see

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a bolt of fear went through him as they thundered through the skies, for he saw the riders coming hard.

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and heard their mournful cry.

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Yippee! I

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if the I/O

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rose riders in the sky, treasures.

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Andrew's iPhone: Hae-ha!

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Andrew's iPhone: Hello.

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Andrew's iPhone: woo and welcome to. We heard wonders, the music podcast that just wants to dance the night away.

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Alternate Line: Well, well, I never expected the yee-haw.

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Andrew's iPhone: Hi! Little cowboy!

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Alternate Line: Hello, sailor! Well, cowboy! His face, how you doing, man?

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Alternate Line: You all right.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'm okay. How are you getting on.

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Alternate Line: Very well, very well. Big, significant milestone in my life this week, coming up.

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Andrew's iPhone: Absolutely, absolutely.

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Alternate Line: Them hard to catch.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I saw pictures of you

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Andrew's iPhone: and all your cowboy adornments at the weekend.

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Andrew's iPhone: riding a bucking bronco for approximately 2 seconds.

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Alternate Line: It was not approximately 2 seconds. It was actually 2 seconds.

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Andrew's iPhone: 2 seconds is maybe a bit generous, actually.

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Alternate Line: I think I had 2 shots. The 1st time was 6 seconds. The second time was 2 seconds, and actually, I think, on the 2 second one. I was looking at it at work today, and I think I actually was falling longer than I was on.

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Andrew's iPhone: Nice.

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Alternate Line: It actually takes me like a good bit of time to get on

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Alternate Line: on my bum, on the on the thing. But yeah, so went out for a a sort of birthday shenanigans at the weekend there

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Alternate Line: to Maggie Mays, great Glasgow venue Maggie Mays, and it's I went to the cowboy Cayley.

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Alternate Line: and we were line dancing and things like this. Actually this you don't know. But I will. I will fill you in here. I so at towards the end of the event

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Alternate Line: we'd done all the line, dancing and everything, and it was just like general dancing. So we're all sort of dancing the crowd. We're all jumping up and down

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Alternate Line: and

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Alternate Line: Gary! The the sort of host of the event.

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Alternate Line: and selected me to participate in a dance off.

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Andrew's iPhone: Now you.

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Alternate Line: Selected me from like the the venue is full right, and I was being shoved to the front. Quite a lot.

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Alternate Line: And you know I probably did stand out a little bit from the general clientele.

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Alternate Line: owing to me being

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Alternate Line: 6 foot 3 and a man and things like this. But

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Andrew's iPhone: Very fetching Tash.

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Alternate Line: And a very fetching tash. So anyway, I got I got up the front and

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Alternate Line: Gary, was sort of standing between me and my opponent.

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Alternate Line: So I didn't actually know who I was going to be facing in the dance off straight away. But of course you know me, Andrew, so I mean, I'm also like 5 pints of Guinness in at this point as well. So I'm like really working the crowd. You know what I mean. I'm really like giving. Yeah, you love it. Now I went to turn around and say to my opponent.

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Alternate Line: You're going down, which I did see, but as I looked around I saw that my opponent was

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Alternate Line: like a 25 year old lassie in trainers who actually looked like she could dance, and I was like, what's the game here? Why is this not some like other oaf like me? And so the competition started. I did my best, which was not great.

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Alternate Line: And and there's video of that as well. And I heard the crowd cheer for me. And when when Gary was asking who the winner was.

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Alternate Line: and the crowd cheered for me. I was first, st and I was like

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Alternate Line: that was so loud like, I've got the sympathy kind of vote here. I must win

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Alternate Line: and then more people shouted for the others.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which is.

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Andrew's iPhone: The.

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Alternate Line: It was a wee bit like if how would I describe it? If Hamilton Accies played Barcelona? It was a little bit like that. Do you know, I mean.

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Alternate Line: your heart wants Hamilton Ackies to win

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Alternate Line: inevitably.

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Andrew's iPhone: You just can't deny Barca.

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Alternate Line: You can't deny, but.

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Andrew's iPhone: You can't. You can't deny quality.

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Alternate Line: No no so.

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Andrew's iPhone: What kind of move? What kind of moves were you doing then?

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Alternate Line: And.

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Andrew's iPhone: Was it like? Was it like line, dancing, style, things? Or was it just no, so.

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Alternate Line: What I basically did was temporarily lose my mind and not think about sensible things like trying to like run round and hook arms with everyone in that sort of line dancing style, or doing any of the line dancing steps I'd learned, or really anything. What I basically did was twerk

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Alternate Line: Zoe, my partner, was saying that some move to the song. I don't know what the song was, but it was like the eagle, you know where you like, cross your thumbs and make like a sort of eagle symbol at some significant point in the song. But I couldn't work out when that was so.

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Andrew's iPhone: I just.

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Alternate Line: I did it a lot in the hope that it would sort of resonate with the audience. It just.

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Andrew's iPhone: Baffled at how you didn't win this.

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Alternate Line: I know I know. It's something I'm known for is is my skillful dancing as well so very disappointed. But anyway, other than that

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Alternate Line: with dignity.

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Alternate Line: you know, and a measure of good sense.

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Alternate Line: and Kobo boots from vintage that I have to now try and get rid of

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Alternate Line: fantastic, fantastic.

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Alternate Line: Yes, it was good. A good evening. Good evening.

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Andrew's iPhone: So many happy returns when it comes.

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Alternate Line: Oh, thank you, thank you. Thank you so much. And the best gift of all from from all of our podcast. Listeners would be to listen more.

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Alternate Line: anyway. What you been up to.

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Andrew's iPhone: I had a very

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Andrew's iPhone: I wouldn't say boring, but it was. It was a very, very homely weekend. Put it that way. I was. My 2 boys weren't very well, so

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Andrew's iPhone: they were just in one of those very kind of clungy moods where they just wanted to just clamber on top of me.

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Andrew's iPhone: and just lots of hugs. So it's just yeah, just just a weekend. And.

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Andrew's iPhone: The boys. So it was nice, but it was just that it was a shit the resource. But yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: so not as exciting. I'm afraid.

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Alternate Line: No, not as exciting. We should probably acknowledge as well that we listen to the highwaymen Welly, Nelson, Johnny Cash, etc. Etc. And Chris Christopherson is on that track there. I don't think we actually got as far as listening to Chris Christopherson's verse, but he has recently died.

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Alternate Line: That's good.

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Andrew's iPhone: He has. He has. Yeah, and an incredible songwriter.

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Andrew's iPhone: cool dude.

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Andrew's iPhone: interesting actor as well. You just pop up in different places. And yeah.

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Alternate Line: He was in a star is born, I think. Wasn't he in blade.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Blades. Yeah. Obviously enjoyed them. He's played. Is it? Hopper? His blade? Yeah, very cool.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. And just lots of amazing songs we were talking about Nick Cave a few weeks ago, and there was that. Yeah, there's that reference to the idea of the Sunday morning coming down.

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Andrew's iPhone: which is just a iconic track. And

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, just lots of tracks of that. And he really kind of took country in a slightly cooler.

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Andrew's iPhone: slightly kind of grittier direction.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, you know, when he started. And yeah.

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Alternate Line: And what's the other? Great me and Bobby Mcgee? That's Chris Christofferson as well, isn't it? Is that right? Yeah, yeah,

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Alternate Line: I always. I always worry. I'm taking my my sort of good reputation into my hands when I say anything here, because I'm aware that sometimes I'm just stupid, and I just say the wrong thing.

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Alternate Line: you know. But I didn't. I got it right on that occasion. Okay, so this week we've got

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Alternate Line: 5 new tracks. We're a little later than we intended. We're a little behind schedule, but that's all right.

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Alternate Line: So these are newish

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, yeah, in the last couple of weeks.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so we've got new tracks from Cosmisia Laffer.

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Andrew's iPhone: Alan Sparhawk.

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Andrew's iPhone: Ezra, collective

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Andrew's iPhone: up for Yama

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Andrew's iPhone: and Nubia, Garcia.

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Alternate Line: Which is altogether sounds like a cryptic crossword puzzle from hell. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Like the gauntlet and gladiators when I'm like.

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Alternate Line: You just think you think you're all the way through it, and then you're you get your or whatever it is like, oh, God!

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Alternate Line: Yeah. So up first.st So I would say, this week's

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Alternate Line: selection. I'm gonna ask you upfront about this, because this week's selection feels a little bit different, maybe, from from other weeks, perhaps.

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Alternate Line: I mean a last podcast I would say, the 5 tracks you picked, I mean you, you couldn't.

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Alternate Line: You couldn't poke holes in any of them. It was a great selection. What are you thinking about this week? What was the what was the theory.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, yeah, so these these are ones that have come out in the last couple of weeks.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I think they're all interesting. But yeah, I think I think there's a lot to kind of talk about in terms of

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Andrew's iPhone: maybe maybe things that I think. Yeah, there's definitely room for holes to be picked in in a lot of these. Yeah. So I think I think it could lead to some interesting discussion.

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Alternate Line: Good. Okay? So we'll emerge full of Bants, I think, is what we're aiming for here, full of the detailed discussion that we're known for the world round.

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Alternate Line: Okay, cool. Let's just get into it, shall we? So this 1st track is Galaxus by Cosmisha Laufer.

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Alternate Line: Here we go.

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Alternate Line: Let's find out it's cosmic, adjacent, perhaps. Let's talk about it. This is going to put my standard grade German to the absolute. Push it to the limit, if you like.

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Alternate Line: so so yeah, where? Where did you get this from? This was not one that was on my radar.

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Andrew's iPhone: Okay? Yeah. I've been following this project for a little while. So there's

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Andrew's iPhone: there's been quite a few volumes in this series. And and I was. I picked up the 1st couple and then

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Andrew's iPhone: lost track of it, for whatever reason, just too much music, I guess you know it's just.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then with with this, this is a track from a new Ep called Track Club Ep.

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Andrew's iPhone: that popped up on a few Instagram feeds recently

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Andrew's iPhone: and encouraged me to dive back in

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Andrew's iPhone: so depending on who you believe Cosmesha laufer which translates, as Ian.

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Alternate Line: Was Mcrunner, I believe.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, absolutely very.

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Alternate Line: You tried to. You tried to catch me out.

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Andrew's iPhone: Done.

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Alternate Line: You'll have to get you'll have to get pretty early in the day to catch me out.

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Alternate Line: I just have a little gem. That's fine.

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Alternate Line: Thank you.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, as I say, so, depending on who you believe. Cosmisha Laufer is either the work of a keen young runner living in 19 seventies, East Germany, by the name of Martin Ziegnit.

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Andrew's iPhone: Inspired by the West German cosmish music of the 19 seventies, epitomized by the likes of Kraftwerk, Neu and cluster

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Andrew's iPhone: decided to produce similar tracks, so tracks that are motoric of beat

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Andrew's iPhone: and repetitious in their nature.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he recorded these tracks to be used by East German athletes as a training aid

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Andrew's iPhone: as part of their Olympic preparation

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Andrew's iPhone: and the 19 seventies.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's either that or it's some bloke from Scotland, called Drew.

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Alternate Line: yes, I I'm beginning to wonder. I don't know. I don't know how strong you do. You don't speak German, do you?

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Andrew's iPhone: I don't.

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Alternate Line: No. So the composer, Martin Zeichnette.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh!

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Andrew's iPhone: That's very good. That's very good.

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Andrew's iPhone: So are you saying it's not the work of somebody. From 19 seventies, East Germany.

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Alternate Line: in the Ddr. In the early 19 seventies, Martin Zeichnetter worked as a sound editor for the Defa State owned Film Studio. I know you've read most of it. It's fantastic. It's just yeah. It's just it's just perfectly like right on the nose, and we haven't even started talking about the music yet. But I really love this postmodern

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Alternate Line: kind of all the signifiers, but possibly they're signifying nothing at all. It's very, very. It's very, very clever stuff, and I think that the key thing is, be it Martin Zeichnetter, or be it. The label chap, the Scottish Label Chap. It's it's a it's a very good piece of music, and I think it's a very, very pleasant lesson.

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Alternate Line: hang around too much. It's it's there, it's memorable. And it's with you long after you've finished listening to Galaxus. So I found this overall a very, very pleasant a very, very pleasant experience.

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Alternate Line: I think this is hoaxes. It is believed to be a hoax. That's what I said. It means that you are quite niche, I would say, with this particular project, which is a shame because it's so lovely. But yeah, I really enjoyed it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Good. Yeah. Well, I think that the guys at this cogs would probably get quite frustrated with us, because they're all about like cataloging and want to know who's behind everything. So

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Andrew's iPhone: but no, I mean as I say, I picked up the so there's I think there's been 4 volumes of of these records. So so they're called the Secret Cosmic Music of the East German Olympic Program, 1972 to 1983.

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Andrew's iPhone: This Ep is a separate thing, both in terms of like not having that kind of naming convention, but also the fact that it's an Ep, so it's just a nice little collection of tracks, and I think it works really well as that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I just think there's a real kind of brightness and warmth to to this track, and the Ep as a whole.

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Andrew's iPhone: and yeah, there's a kind of fitness and a glossiness to the production that that kind of tells you that it's more of a kind of modern production as well. It feel it doesn't feel like it's just trying to be exactly like something from the seventies, you know. It's got a slightly modern feel to it.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's got a kind of sense of. You can be influenced by dance culture a little bit, maybe.

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Andrew's iPhone: and a lot of those German groups they tended to to kind of specialize in one particular sound. You know whether it be

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Andrew's iPhone: aircraft work with that kind of neon lit electronic pop thing or tangerine dream, going in a more kind of ambient spacey direction, or

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, in a really nice way. So so yeah, I think it's a really nice blending of styles. It's really, sympathetically done.

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Alternate Line: and it makes it a kind of light and fun experience. And, by the way, to whoever made this piece of music, if you are listening, and I've totally misread this, and I'm wrong, and it is from the whatever it was. D. Efa or whatever it was State owned film studio in East Germany from the seventies. Then I apologize. But yeah, it just it feels like a just a jolly good wheeze. And I do like it.

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Andrew's iPhone: I was gonna ask you as well. I know you sometimes listen to music at the gym. Did you

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Alternate Line: Well, so there is. Can you hear?

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Alternate Line: sort of biography, and what we need to know, and you know the name of Alan Sparhawk was one that I wasn't familiar with until I started looking into his work, and then I was familiar with his work, and then I was very confused about what I just listened to when I realized who I was listening to, because it is a bit of marks, a bit of a departure for Alan Sparhawk. Is that right?

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah. So I mean, I'd I'd actually ask you to listen to this record as a whole.

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Andrew's iPhone: And if yeah, if you had the time. I don't know if you managed to do that. But I just. I just thought it led quite neatly on from the discussion that we were having last week around Bonnever, and the last podcast

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Andrew's iPhone: how that was, how that totally kind of exploded apart the bonne bonnever sound. And they were kind of using digital manipulation and things in a kind of interesting way. And and for me, like some of that, worked really well when others didn't. So I just

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Andrew's iPhone: and latterly with Bj. Burton, they created a series of records, double negative, and hey, what?

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Andrew's iPhone: And and they were very much these kind of experimental records that were kind of dealing with really kind of interesting sounds, and, as I say, exploding apart the sound and bringing it back together, and using these kind of fragments of different different things and

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Andrew's iPhone: and some some of the kind of more kind of modern techniques that you'd maybe associate with like alternative R and B, or hip. Hop that kind of thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so that was one reason for for wanting to kind of bring this in

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Andrew's iPhone: what I would say, is like, is it kind of quiet Titan of alternative music? Alan spa hawk as one half of

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Andrew's iPhone: Hello! You know. 30 year career

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Andrew's iPhone: making some incredible music. Some some records that I really really liked

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Andrew's iPhone: must admit there's there's kind of areas of their catalogue that I'm more familiar with than others, just because it's such a

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Andrew's iPhone: And this is the 1st release under his own name.

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Andrew's iPhone: Mimi Parker, who passed away from cancer in 2022.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then the 3rd reason for bringing it in is that I was kind of hoping that you could maybe explain this album to me because

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Andrew's iPhone: not by the intention of the record. I don't think I kind of get the intention behind it. That kind of idea of

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Andrew's iPhone: want to push yourself out of your comfort zone a little bit to try new things, adopt new methods.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I get the the desire to kind of obfuscate your words and meaning behind all that, all that kind of auto tune, and

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Andrew's iPhone: as well as the reaction. Because this is getting particularly from critics. This is getting incredibly positive

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Andrew's iPhone: I don't feel good about it, because I think that is, maybe maybe I don't want to be putting words in a critic's mouth, but I think there is a little bit of you know, there's so much goodwill towards him, and there's such a kind of outpouring when Mimi passed away. But

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Andrew's iPhone: this just doesn't. And and this is actually, this is actually my favorite track on the record. But the album in general is just. I just don't think it's good music. And can we get into? Why, I think that. But.

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Alternate Line: I've had precisely 2 lessons to the full album, because I've just been busy, busy man, so I'm much more comfortable talking about this particular track, but on the topic of the album as a whole I'm a bit more positive than you are. I think.

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Alternate Line: like when I found out this was from, you know, one of the architects of Low. I was very surprised because this is like such electronic music. And I know you said like it links to like other projects. But I just hadn't heard those, so it just like took me by surprise. For me, lo! Or like, you know, a very, very straightforward

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Andrew's iPhone: See you.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it was just all about the amazing, the amazing blending of their voices, those.

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Alternate Line: And he said again. I read in my in this interview that he he's now feeling a very emotional connection to the music he makes, and it's a way for him to process grief and maintain a bond with with Mimi Parker.

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Alternate Line: It really, you know, comes in pretty strongly, because, yeah, I can hear the track. But I don't have a clue. What you're saying. You know, I literally don't know what this is about.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I like those records. I like this song a lot. I'd have to give the album another couple of spins. But I? Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, I mean, as as I say, this, this is one of the few, the few moments in the record that does really work for me along with a track called feel something.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they are really kind of successful in communicating, as you as you were. As you were saying very eloquently, there about kind of communicating that kind of emotion.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and yeah, I do do think that really kind of works in this track, that kind of distorted yowl and howl of the vocals, and that that kind of industrial backing

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Andrew's iPhone: really kind of gets across that sense of frustration and desperation and visceral emotion flailing around that kind of idea of flailing around. I think it's really.

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Andrew's iPhone: there's there can be something kind of interesting about that. But for me, there's just there's just far too many kind of where you're saying minimal.

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Andrew's iPhone: all, all meaning is lost on certain tracks where you can't hear a single thing that he's that he's actually saying.

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Andrew's iPhone: And we've we've reviewed lots of music where.

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Andrew's iPhone: you know. Maybe they speak a different language. Maybe it's even a made up language, and you still get, we get. The emotion comes across in the track. But for me on this there's just

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Andrew's iPhone: and by all means experiment get things at your system. But and he's been doing lots of different

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Andrew's iPhone: and musical projects, just kind of turn up at random places and playing with different people and playing different styles of music.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think that's all really, really cool. But I think for this to be the 1st thing that he's releasing.

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm asking people to pay for it.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, as I say, some of some of the reviews as well, there's a bit in

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Andrew's iPhone: and though its reception will certainly be softened by goodwill, it stands alone. Spa hawk, releasing a record. This immediate in Kuwait feels like a gesture of faith in both listeners, patience and the musical futures it might yet bloom.

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Andrew's iPhone: I love lots of Lowe's music, and I'll definitely be kind of interested to hear what he he does next?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. And as I say, there is definitely merit in this this track that we played but yeah, I was just. It's just a bit of a head scratcher.

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Alternate Line: hey! So there is Mercury prize winners from 2023

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Andrew's iPhone: I think so. Yeah, it was a fantastic debut record that was really kind of diverse and very accomplished. And yeah, just so many great great

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Andrew's iPhone: mixing of styles on that record, but great songwriting as well, and

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Andrew's iPhone: she, since she's just a star, the the lead singer, she's so.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, it was. It was funny when when they won it, they were genuinely flabbergasted, like they they didn't. They just couldn't get a sentence out.

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Just

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Alternate Line: to God. Give me feet for dancing. So this is Ezra Collective who won the 2023 prize, and I'm not intimately familiar with Ezra Collective. It's a name that I'd heard of from from basically the Mercury prize and stuff. But it's not something that I would naturally

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's it's it's very, very pleasant and

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, just just very well put together as well, I think, which

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Andrew's iPhone: which is, which is what they do. Yeah. So Ezra collective are a British jazz content.

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Andrew's iPhone: composed of drummer and band, leader, femi bassist, tj trumpeter ife.

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Andrew's iPhone: who are all children of Nigerian immigrants

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Andrew's iPhone: as well as keyboardist, Joe Armand Jones, who's super, cool and super talented, and the tenor saxophonist, James Mollison.

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Andrew's iPhone: who was on that. Now listen, Afro track from a few weeks ago as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: very, very cool group, fusing elements of Afrobeat Calypso reggae, hip, hop, soul.

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Andrew's iPhone: and jazz. So so yeah, so they're they're kind of key players and collaborators on the London based jazz scene.

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Andrew's iPhone: which has been absolutely world class for the last decade or so.

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Andrew's iPhone: Alongside. People like Moses Boyd, Tendellonius.

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Andrew's iPhone: and Nubia Garcia, who we're going to talk about a bit more later on.

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Andrew's iPhone: and, as you say they won the 2023 Mercury prize for the second record, where I'm meant to be.

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Andrew's iPhone: and making them the 1st jazz act to win the award in 31 years of the prize going ahead. So so yeah, there was. It was always that kind of joke about the token jazz act on on the shortlist, and they finally

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Andrew's iPhone: And again, it tends to be the kind of the cerebral acts where things like the Xx. And things like that. Those very kind of cool, moody kind of things that would typically get it.

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Andrew's iPhone: I must admit, when when the Ezra collective won.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I did feel feel it was a slight sense of right place the right time and a bit of a course correction, because there'd been a few jazz records

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Andrew's iPhone: and Nubia Garcia's 1st record source, which missed out, and I thought they would have been really

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Andrew's iPhone: but deserving winners. But again, that's maybe

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Andrew's iPhone: me kind of playing into that a little bit, because because those records are very kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, well, yeah, we I was saying, we had our our jammy weekend, you know. We were in the house, and we were. We were catching up on strictly come dancing, because because we quite enjoy it. And all the kids enjoy what it's just one of those things we can all watch together kind of thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they were actually performing this song on the results show last Saturday. So I mean, that's quite a coup for them. But it also shows that it kind of plays into what you were saying that you know. How could you not like this kind of thing? It's like it's just

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Andrew's iPhone: gonna say pair of hands, almost, you know.

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Andrew's iPhone: Because you want.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, I mean the the this record as you as you say, is is kind of all designed around dancing. So it's called the album's called Dance. No one's watching.

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Andrew's iPhone: and the way that they recorded this they recorded it. Live in Abbey Road studios. So they actually got like an audience and and performed the whole album

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Andrew's iPhone: that energy that they have

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, and I kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: at different points.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so, yeah, so it's kind of what we were talking about with that Itron delayer track a few weeks ago. That's that that kind of it's functional dance music in a way.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I think on on that, on those terms, you know, it really kind of achieves that function. It does get you moving. And

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Andrew's iPhone: and the album is a real dance record. It's got the momentum of a really good party live set.

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Andrew's iPhone: and there's little let up. There's little time for biology.

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Andrew's iPhone: and there's a real kind of sense of their of who they are and their culture, and the celebration of that through the music. So so it's

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Andrew's iPhone: as as a really enjoyable record, as maybe just as you say, maybe just a little bit kind of light in terms of the jazz that I like. I like a little bit of scrunk and a little bit.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's a bit more exploratory, I guess.

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Andrew's iPhone: and.

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Alternate Line: You know what I would say about just to make 2 kind of detailed points here. So the vocalist is Yasmin Lacey. That's right. I don't want to step.

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Andrew's iPhone: Right.

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Alternate Line: If I'm being completely honest and one, this is just an absolutely minor nitpick of the of the very nitpickiest type.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: And I think something that maybe propels the track on a bit more. You know something a bit more gap band, or a bit more kind of chic

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Andrew's iPhone: Talk about Yasmin Lacey, I mean. She's a very cool vocalist, I would say, but she has. She has. She's got that very kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the the track itself is a slightly cooler tempo than a lot of the tracks on the record that do move up quite a clip, and they are

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Andrew's iPhone: bit more kind of full on Afrobe or full on

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Andrew's iPhone: jazz even. And there's a lot of kind of instrumentals on the record. I think there's only 3 vocal tracks on on the record. So

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Andrew's iPhone: so yeah, I mean, as it does sound like a good time, you know, as as a party record goes.

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Andrew's iPhone: And

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Andrew's iPhone: so yes, I I

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Andrew's iPhone: I think they're very good at what they do.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they're playing the barrel lands in November, and I imagine that would be a really cool night out.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I think on this track in particular, that they're going for something that's a little bit more.

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Andrew's iPhone: become more laid back, a little bit more refined, maybe.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, as as I say, it's it's maybe not my my absolute favorite type of jazz.

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Andrew's iPhone: but still very good at what they do.

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Alternate Line: Do you know what our reviews kind of come down to? It's basically just like, here's a piece of music.

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Alternate Line: Here's some music. We've listened to it, you could also listen to it.

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Alternate Line: Let's move on. And next.

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Alternate Line: that's kind of what they've done like in a way they've not really left us with something that, like Alan Sparhawk has left us with something that's like.

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Alternate Line: Got you scratching your head, you know what I mean, and and and and so on. Whereas this is just.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's like.

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Alternate Line: It's too smooth, or something like that. I don't know what it is. Exactly

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Alternate Line: right, anyway, let's move ourselves on. So the next is a is a challenging piece of music. I would say

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Alternate Line: if for no other reason than its length. So it's an 8 min track we've got here. So this is Moon needs the wolf from

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Alternate Line: Upu Paiyama. I've been struggling over that one all week. Upapayama.

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Alternate Line: So here we go.

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Alternate Line: It's her son.

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Alternate Line: Thank you.

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Alternate Line: Bupayama

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Alternate Line: Moon needs the wolf from the Album. Mount Elephant.

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Alternate Line: Okay, I'm going to require, like a blog post or a video essay to explain

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Alternate Line: It's just been. It's just been a constant head scratcher, and I'll just say, before we get into this as well, that maybe the the sort of highlight of reviewing Pupa Yama this week which we're about to do has been the blogs and weird websites. I've had to go to to find information about them. So we have. We've been on Weirdo shrine

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Alternate Line: this week

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Alternate Line: we've been on the Psychedelic babymag.com. Not sure if you're you're a fan of that particular website, Andrew.

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Andrew's iPhone: I am actually there you are!

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Alternate Line: And Raven singstheblues.com is what I've been spending my time reading about

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Alternate Line: with papayama, and just just unusual music. So who? Who? What we got here.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, when when you're listing those those websites, I'm like, they're my people.

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Alternate Line: It's not quite like a New York Times, BBC. Reuters, is it? Really? It's it's a bit different.

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Andrew's iPhone: No, no.

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Andrew's iPhone: they've got a cowbell, and they're not afraid to use it.

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Alternate Line: No liberal sploshings of cowbell all over this.

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah. So Upuyama is the musical persona of Alessio Ferrari.

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Andrew's iPhone: an Italian, multi-instrumentalist and songwriter.

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Andrew's iPhone: and his music is strongly rooted in Eastern and Western folk traditions.

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Andrew's iPhone: and incorporates a number of unusual instruments, including the sitar.

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Andrew's iPhone: the air, who he's about.

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Alternate Line: Andrew's about to say things I've never heard of. Right here we go.

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, I had to look up the air. Who are you familiar with this instrument? No, it's a 2 string spike fiddle, apparently.

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Alternate Line: It's a stick with strings on it. Right? Go on.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's the one

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Andrew's iPhone: and all all manner of flutes and a variety of percussion as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So Ferrari lives in a small mountain village

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Andrew's iPhone: above the city of Palmer

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Andrew's iPhone: among the mountains.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he's talked about the impact that his surroundings have on the music that he makes

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Andrew's iPhone: so he he talks about like stepping out of his house, and then within minutes being surrounded by trees.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he says, I don't want to sound like a spiritual Guru.

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Andrew's iPhone: and then he goes on to sound like a spiritual guru many, many times. But he's just saying that he believes that you know the environment can make you feel free, serene, relaxed. And that is fundamental.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so he's made a series of records

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Andrew's iPhone: sort of inspired by the environment that he makes. So the 1st album was him.

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Andrew's iPhone: kind of walking around.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's taking many hikes in the woods. And then the second record was called the Golden Pond.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it was all about spending hours listening and observing the surroundings around a small body of water.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and he says, I want to make it clear that I'm often in the city. I go to clubs and breathe smog like everybody else. Honest, honest, I do.

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Andrew's iPhone: But they obviously just likes being in in these more kind of tranquil landscapes.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he's talked about this record being

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Andrew's iPhone: after that, if you kind of stopped and kind of taken in the Golden Pond. Now he's on the move again

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Andrew's iPhone: on this record.

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Andrew's iPhone: And hence Mount Elephant. So he's so he's up hiking the mountains again, and talking about what you can see, and spider what I can see.

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Alternate Line: Do you think?

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Alternate Line: may have

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Andrew's iPhone: Oof! I think that could be.

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Alternate Line: Possibly possibly

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Andrew's iPhone: Tread lightly.

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Alternate Line: Carefully, carefully.

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Alternate Line: I will say across the 8 min here, there's parts of this that I really like, and I know, from having having worked with you on this podcast for quite a long time. The long tracks like this, psychedelic tracks like this are not about

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Alternate Line: the sort of moment by moment.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: It's not. I mean, it's God. It's not the tight construction of that Ezra collection track

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Alternate Line: at all, which is, you know, kind of very sort of cleverly put together and quite nimble. This is sort of

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Alternate Line: broad and expansive, and and you know it's allowed to go wherever it goes. Is it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes.

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Alternate Line: But it does make 2 or 3 kind of across its 8 min. It does make 2 or 3 different obvious movements.

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Alternate Line: and there's almost exactly halfway through as well. There's the drop into the big bass, Riff.

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Alternate Line: and the drums come in, and the 1st time you hear the drums you kind of expect them to do

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Alternate Line: one thing, and then they almost like hit like a motown. Beat

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Alternate Line: the floor, snare the guitar playing is fun all the way through.

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Alternate Line: It's just wacky. I just never really know what to make of music like this. I just it makes me if I'm being honest rather than that, making me feel like chill, or whatever makes me feel slightly uncomfortable. It puts me slightly on edge, because it makes me think I don't know what I don't know what to make of this. I don't know what my, what the implied reaction is.

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Alternate Line: So you might say to yourself, well, turn to the words of the Creator of the track, and maybe that'll open it all up for you and make sense. And so here's

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Alternate Line: so weirdo shrine. Ask them, what should the Weirdo shrine reader do? Immediately after this interview, Mr. Ferrari

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Alternate Line: and he said, try listening to the 1st single for Mount Elephant, and since it's summer, try listening to it at a party, try dancing until you sweat until you're exhausted. Try talking to people you don't know. Ask everyone to dance, and happy to have given yourselves completely to that night. Walk back home. Maybe if you're a girl, some with a guy, and if you're a guy, some with a girl, some with a friend, with whom you can open up and be 100% yourself.

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Alternate Line: some alone, with half a smile on your lips.

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Alternate Line: Then wait for winter and read and observe the conference of the birds. By Peter. Sis, it's a piece of advice, that's what he said.

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Alternate Line: so yeah.

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Alternate Line: there you go. It's it's a it's a cool piece of music man. I just I I don't know what to say about it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I must. I must confess, when I brought this out I knew there'd be a kind of ceiling of enjoyment for you on this one just just whenever, whenever I've brought in tracks like this, it's always kind of the same, but

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Andrew's iPhone: I know that there's at least a small section of our leadership that really likes stuff like this. And this is this is a really good record in that style. I would say.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, if you. If you dug that track you'll you'll dig the album as well, because this is almost like the album and miniature this track.

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Andrew's iPhone: and the way it kind of go, and I like the fact that it goes through those stages like this. There's a lot of artists that do

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Andrew's iPhone: music kind of similar to this where they would just

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Andrew's iPhone: they would hit on one of those ideas and just play that out for 7 or 8 min, you know. So I quite like the fact that it kind of jumps through those stages, and

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Andrew's iPhone: you're never quite sure where it's going to end up. And it's just got a

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Andrew's iPhone: a real kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: a cheekiness to it and a playfulness to it again. And he's talked about another thing that he said what it was it was when he said he said, he doesn't like it when people would say it's the most mature records yet, he said, this is my most childish records, yet.

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Andrew's iPhone: like quick phones of that like. So

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Andrew's iPhone: so yes, I think there's that kind of that childlike wonder about everything.

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Alternate Line: Lots of stuff about the interview, and the various interviews on on there

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Alternate Line: do sound like I'm being like, quite kind of playful and and open and and stuff, and they were asking him in one of those interviews like, What have you been doing recently? And he said, Well, last night I was playing my shamanic drum all night.

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Alternate Line: So it does seem to just be one of one of those guys who doesn't love that backstory of living in a little little village above Parma, walking about just

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Alternate Line: day and mushrooms, and having a good time, you know, who who can't, who can't love that. Some of that may not be accurate. I don't know.

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Alternate Line: might just be. It might just be high on Parma violets. We don't know.

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Alternate Line: Right? So on to our 5th new track of the week. By Nubia Garcia.

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Alternate Line: and this track is dawn.

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Alternate Line: Oh.

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Alternate Line: and I,

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Alternate Line: Humans may

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Alternate Line: of your heart

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Alternate Line: till death has its way.

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Alternate Line: oh.

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Alternate Line: my life!

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Alternate Line: Oh.

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Alternate Line: my son!

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Alternate Line: A

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Alternate Line: okay. So that is done by

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Alternate Line: Nibia Garcia.

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Alternate Line: Featuring the vocals of Esperanza. Spalding.

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Alternate Line: You know, Andrew's a nice name. It's fine. Ian is a nice name. It's fine, our podcast friends, Martin Nathan.

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Alternate Line: Fine. But I'd like to be called Esperanza spalding, please. Next time, next time we get a go around to this

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Alternate Line: cool. So that is to be serious for a second. That is a significant a significant piece of music. I think that's the best way I could like come out of the traps to to talk about this.

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Alternate Line: It's like stately and kind of graceful

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Alternate Line: like a beautiful dawn, I would say. I think that's maybe the the atmosphere that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Them, yet.

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Alternate Line: That we're going for there.

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Alternate Line: And there's some absolutely like stunning moments in there for someone who's not a jazz lover. I would say that that really is quite a touching piece of music, and I think about 3 and a half minutes in when the vocals and the saxophone, the melodies like combine.

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Alternate Line: and then start to weave on top of each other, and is, is a transcendent moment out of the track. I think it's it's really, really really beautiful piece of music overall

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Alternate Line: is my review

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Alternate Line: in a nutshell.

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Andrew's iPhone: Good. I'm really, really pleased that you like it. Yeah, I think I think a lot of the things that you're you're saying there, I would agree with as well just the the kind of attention of the track

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Andrew's iPhone: to be that kind of, you know. It's the opening track on the record, and it's that kind of idea of the the sun rising and kind of introducing the record. And

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Andrew's iPhone: you know Esperanza comes in with that

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Andrew's iPhone: very controlled but very commanding vocal, as you say, very stately, vocal.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's almost like a slight hint of like a bond theme about it, you know, like shelly bassey kind of bond theme, feel to the whole thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: and immediately foregrounds the importance of strings on the track and the album as a whole. So

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Andrew's iPhone: 1. 1 of the kind of the the big

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Andrew's iPhone: changes this time around, for Nubia Garcia is is that kind of foregrounding of the strings and the wonderful on this track and across the record.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it's got that kind of circular feel to the track of, you know the kind of strings

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Andrew's iPhone: rising at the start symbolizing the kind of rising of the sun and then setting at the end, returning to that kind of motif at the end.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I love, that the way that the.

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Andrew's iPhone: as you say when her Sax enters it, kind of harmonizes with her vocal, and they kind of weave together at different points in the track

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Andrew's iPhone: and the track. The tempo kind of speeds up at that point in a really cool, interesting way as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then you get that kind of chaotic slight section. It's almost as if the tracks trying to make sense of itself and build its way up again.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then it

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, kind of reaches that beautiful opulent climax at the end. So so, yeah, I just think it's a, it's a wonderful piece of music

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Andrew's iPhone: and a really effective introduction to the album as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So if I could

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Andrew's iPhone: give you a little bit of background about Nubia Garcia, she is a multi award winning saxophonist, composer, and band leader.

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Andrew's iPhone: and along with people like Ezra Collector, she's considered

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Andrew's iPhone: one of the hottest names in contemporary jazz and a real prominent member of the

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Andrew's iPhone: that fair tell of London scene that we're talking about.

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Andrew's iPhone: Her 1st instrument, which she learned as a child, was the violin.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she later played the violin, the London School Symphony Orchestra.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. So she has that long term affinity with strings which she's kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: using and pulling from, I guess, on on this record.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then, at the age of 10, she started learning the saxophone which

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Andrew's iPhone: which she's she's most known for and yeah, she had, like a series of vps.

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Andrew's iPhone: She's done some lovely music with a group called Noraisha.

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Andrew's iPhone: and there was a wonderful record by a group called

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Andrew's iPhone: Myesha, that was called. There's a place that she provided sax and flute for that I really recommend people checking out that record.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then there was the the much anticipated long player in 2020, which was source.

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Andrew's iPhone: So that was the one that I was saying was, I think we're doing a very worthy winner of the Mercury, and it was

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Andrew's iPhone: absolute triumph.

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Andrew's iPhone: And at my end of year round, up for that year, I said, I called it a statement to match Kamasi Washington in terms of heart, scope and inclusivity.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so there's a track on the album called together is a beautiful place to be.

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Andrew's iPhone: and as much as a track name. That was a kind of philosophy for that. For that record I would say that kind of idea of to govern us.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I said it was surely destined to be viewed as a keystone of modern British jazz.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I think that's true. I think it's it's kind of one of the the defining records of that that scene.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it's just got that kind of what you're you're kind of alluding to at the start. It's got that real kind of heft to it. It's just got this

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Andrew's iPhone: that's real, just that. It feels like. So something that's just really kind of yeah, you can really kind of get your teeth into it. It just feels like a proper statement.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it was a really kind of graceful, thoughtful, vibrant record. There was

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Andrew's iPhone: really kind of cool aspects of Reggie on on that record, and dub and things like that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it was. It's a it's a big old sound that Garcia makes, you know, but it it never gets overblown or muddy, I don't think.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she is able to kind of bring in

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Andrew's iPhone: different sounds from different cultures.

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Andrew's iPhone: And that record was a considerable hit as well. It it was in the top 30 of the charts when it was released. It got that Mercury nomination.

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Andrew's iPhone: She was also one of the few

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Andrew's iPhone: performers that was asked to perform at the Glastonbury 2020 experience during Covid.

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Andrew's iPhone: where they they got them to perform in these

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Andrew's iPhone: sets and and on on worthy farm. So yeah, so that that kind of brought her to a wider audience as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And now, after a few years away. We've got this new record, Odyssey.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I think it is designed to be viewed as some kind of journey.

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Andrew's iPhone: You know that you kind of. She's kind of taking the listeners on she's talked about. She wants the listeners to to feel that their imagination knows no bounds when they listen to this record.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it's got that kind of genre blending that she's talked that she's done before. But

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Andrew's iPhone: there is that that kind of emphasis on the orchestral arrangements this time around.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I mean, there's just there's just so much to be getting on with with this record. That's just such an expansive huge piece of work.

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Andrew's iPhone: just under an hour in length, and I've been. I've been spending some time with it over the last couple of weeks, and

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Andrew's iPhone: it's kind of one of those ones that gradually kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: it blossoms in front of you. The more you listen to it. But I feel like I'm only really kind of touching the surface with it.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I think that will be one of those ones that I continue to to enjoy more as I listen to it. More.

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Andrew's iPhone: but yeah, it's it's kind of like it is like a kind of journey almost, and and that it's

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Andrew's iPhone: fascinating

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01:28:03.860 --> 01:28:07.959
Andrew's iPhone: eye and ear popping, occasionally frustrating and draining, but ultimately

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Andrew's iPhone: a rewarding experience where the effort and the perseverance pay off.

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Andrew's iPhone: and you might even learn something about yourself along the way, who knows?

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Andrew's iPhone: And so yeah, so I think it's it's 1 of those ones that that will be

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Andrew's iPhone: one of the kind of major releases of the year. And

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, I just think she's a real class act. Nubia Garcia.

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah. And I'd recommend people check this record out.

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Alternate Line: I think you like this one very much.

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Alternate Line: I think you like this one very much, and I think when you get around to the end of your stuff you might be you might be liking this one quite a lot.

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Alternate Line: yeah, it's a it's a bit, I think. I opened by saying, it's a very significant piece of music. It feels like something.

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Alternate Line: It actually brings us back to the mercury price chat we're having with Ezra collection. It feels like something serious, doesn't it? Yeah, feels like something. But I wonder if part of that appeal is like.

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Alternate Line: you know, if you sit down with a piece of music.

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Alternate Line: and you're listening to it on your own

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Alternate Line: you know, it's like you want something meaningful. You want something significant. A lot of the time. I think I mean.

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Alternate Line: you're not gonna sit down on your own and listen to like

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Alternate Line: You know the laughing policeman, or something like that, you know, he needs to have some kind of like

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Alternate Line: some kind of heft, you know, emotional heft, intellectual heft, even just technical

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Alternate Line: wizardry a little bit, and if it doesn't have that, it's kind of hard to make that that connection with it. I think so, even though that's not a genre that I'm

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Alternate Line: Well, I say, genre, it's it's it's difficult to, you know. PIN PIN this artist down to a genre. But

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Alternate Line: even though jazz and and and that sort of thing is not as you're not in love with. Necessarily.

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Alternate Line: You can just see the quality or hear the quality. There you can. You can hear the

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Alternate Line: the hours and hours of thought process that went into into an amazing piece of music like that.

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Alternate Line: And it's yeah, it's experimental. But it's also touches on lots of traditions.

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Alternate Line: It's almost got a bit of dub in it. Some of the rhythm. The rhythmic stuff feels a little bit dubby

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Alternate Line: in the middle there as well. Which which I can appreciate. So

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Alternate Line: on the whole, I think it's a very interesting piece of music. No issues. The brain that one for sure.

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Alternate Line: And as you, I think you were suggesting, maybe maybe the emotions as well.

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Alternate Line: which is pretty good, too.

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Alternate Line: And that's us reached the end of our 5 new tracks for the week.

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Alternate Line: and so we come round to our wee segment at the end, called

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Alternate Line: the Vinyl word, and

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Alternate Line: we're approaching the end of our 97th question mark, podcast is it 97.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think that's right. Yeah.

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Alternate Line: It is so that's

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Alternate Line: that's pretty good. Actually, so so yeah, you know, we we've been saying last couple of weeks. We're gonna make some changes. But we love this format served us really, really well. So we will continue with it for another couple of weeks, and then we'll think about making a few tweakers.

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Alternate Line: But at this point, as you know, long time listeners of the show, I filibuster for a bit, whilst Andrew gets himself ready to give us the final words.

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Alternate Line: And at this point what I normally say is, thanks so much for listening to the show. If you do like the show. If you do like our podcast. Then please recommend it to friends and keep listening yourself. Those are the absolute best ways that you can support us, and if you do feel that you can support us financially, then that's welcome as well. Just bring yourself to Www. Dot buy meacoffee.com slash. We heardwonders

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Alternate Line: and slap a couple of pumpkin spice lattes down our way, and we just put that to the ongoing running costs of our show.

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Alternate Line: of which there are some.

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Alternate Line: So this segment here Andrew has reached up to his actual Vinyl collection and pulled down something which is connected in some way to what we've been listening to this week. So

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Alternate Line: Andrew, without further ado, take it away.

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Andrew's iPhone: Hi, thank you. Yeah. So we're going from the track. Moon needs the wolf to something else, Moon related.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so there's tons of tracks which I could have picked on that theme.

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Andrew's iPhone: But the one that I've gone for is Good night, Moon

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01:32:29.030 --> 01:32:33.010
Andrew's iPhone: by Americana and Alternative Country act chivalry.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, taking the name from the Cajun word for a drunken serenade, chivalry were fronted by

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Andrew's iPhone: ambrosia, parsley.

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01:32:42.952 --> 01:32:49.009
Andrew's iPhone: A singer striking in terms of her name in terms of our vocals in terms of our looks as well.

806
01:32:49.330 --> 01:32:55.859
Andrew's iPhone: and and this is their best known track from their best known album. So the album's called.

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Andrew's iPhone: I ought to give you a shot in the head for making me live in this dump.

808
01:33:00.030 --> 01:33:02.079
Andrew's iPhone: It's from 1999.

809
01:33:02.460 --> 01:33:05.680
Andrew's iPhone: And so I remember buying this record

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01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:09.480
Andrew's iPhone: back in 2,000 on CD.

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Andrew's iPhone: After seeing an advert for it in Q magazine.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so I mean, this was like, you know your

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Andrew's iPhone: pre spotify days where you can

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Andrew's iPhone: hear anything before you bought it. So it was. It was purely just based on the

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Andrew's iPhone: on the pool courts

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Andrew's iPhone: and that intriguing title that that I thought this this might be something that that I'll enjoy

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Andrew's iPhone: and

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Andrew's iPhone: there were parts of it that I instantly liked, and other parts that I almost had to train myself to appreciate again. That was something that you had to do.

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Andrew's iPhone: and

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Andrew's iPhone: in the kind of pre spotify days where.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I I absolutely recognize that practice. I do.

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Andrew's iPhone: You're like you. You spent your hard earned on it, and you need to like it.

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Alternate Line: Yes.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, man, over over the years I have really grown to enjoy this record.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. So recorded in Producer Joe Henry's backyard, it merged a Southern American Gothic sound

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Andrew's iPhone: with a twisted junkyard sensibility. So it to me. It kind of it's got a long lot in common with Tom Waits's record from the same year. Mule variations. So there's kind of something kind of peculiar, incongruous.

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Andrew's iPhone: slightly kind of unsettling, a bit bits of it, and some kind of interesting trip hop production touches on the record as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: It was only listened to the record this time around actually, that it struck me that this is almost like a proto lana del Rey record

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Andrew's iPhone: in a lot of ways. So there's tracks called daring lousy guy and pimp

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Andrew's iPhone: even the title, you know, out to give you a shot in the head for making me live in this dump. There's something very kind of.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Nancy Sinatra Lana, delray about that

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Andrew's iPhone: and this album got its 1st proper vinyl release early this year through music on Vinyl. So if you want to pick this record up on record, you can. Finally,

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Andrew's iPhone: Incidentally, I noticed that their final album, which was released in 2,007 was called Tainted Love, and

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Andrew's iPhone: it was a covers record, and

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Andrew's iPhone: the selections haven't aged that. Well, so it features interpretations of songs by motley crue. Michael Jackson and R. Kelly.

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Alternate Line: Oh, good!

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Andrew's iPhone: And if people.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, they covers too long.

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Andrew's iPhone: Tainted love indeed.

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Alternate Line: So.

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Andrew's iPhone: So so this track, goodnight, moon. It's had various bumps over the years through its inclusion in in TV shows and movies. It was in Dawson's Creek. It was in silver linings playbook.

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Andrew's iPhone: and probably most iconically, it's played over the closing credits of Kill Bill Volume 2.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so Quentin Tarantino chose it to play out

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Andrew's iPhone: that epic of his. And yeah, I thought it'd be nice to play over the closing credits of this week's podcast.

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Alternate Line: Excellent decision.

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Alternate Line: Okay, guys, there's nothing else for us to say, except we will see you down the road.

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Andrew's iPhone: See you soon, guys.

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Andrew's iPhone: there's a nail

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Andrew's iPhone: door

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Andrew's iPhone: glass on the lawn

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Andrew's iPhone: tax on the cloud, and the TV is on

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Andrew's iPhone: the

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Andrew's iPhone: sleep with my guns when you're gone.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's a blade by the bed and a phone in my hand, a dog on the floor, and some cash on a nightstand. When I'm all alone the demon steps, and I just can't say.

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01:36:56.920 --> 01:37:02.330
Andrew's iPhone: what should I do? Just a little baby.

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01:37:02.470 --> 01:37:29.319
Andrew's iPhone: Let's go out, and maybe and then the wind just starts to warm outside too soon till I say good night.

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01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:37.460
Andrew's iPhone: There's a shark and a bull and a witch of a tree.

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01:37:37.500 --> 01:37:42.169
Andrew's iPhone: Crazy old neighbor knee, has been watching you.

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01:37:42.490 --> 01:37:48.049
Andrew's iPhone: His footsteps, loud and strong. Come down the hall.

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01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:58.660
Andrew's iPhone: Something's under the bed now. It's out in the hands. There's a big black hole. Sitting alone.

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01:38:00.260 --> 01:38:05.260
Andrew's iPhone: I hit something scratchy

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01:38:07.480 --> 01:38:08.479
Andrew's iPhone: and shut up.

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Andrew's iPhone: Just let us.

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Andrew's iPhone: baby.

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Andrew's iPhone: What if the lights go out? Maybe I just hate the

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Andrew's iPhone: alone outside

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Andrew's iPhone: and follow me. How now? Good night.

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Andrew's iPhone: moon!

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Andrew's iPhone: Soon am I?

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Andrew's iPhone: Boom

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Andrew's iPhone: too soon till I say good night, moon.

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Andrew's iPhone: and

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01:38:51.030 --> 01:39:00.129
Andrew's iPhone: well, you're so high.

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01:39:00.380 --> 01:39:05.379
Andrew's iPhone: How can you save me when the dark comes here tonight.

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Andrew's iPhone: Tink, ma'am.

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01:39:09.140 --> 01:39:10.109
Andrew's iPhone: and then 2.

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01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:12.609
Andrew's iPhone: They're just as my family.

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Andrew's iPhone: What should I?

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Andrew's iPhone: Just

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01:39:19.610 --> 01:39:21.680
Andrew's iPhone: whatever. Let's go

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01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:24.779
Andrew's iPhone: leave it in my!

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm just out tomorrow

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Andrew's iPhone: the whole night.

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01:39:32.380 --> 01:39:34.400
Andrew's iPhone: Good enough.

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Andrew's iPhone: this earth! It's not as soon as

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Andrew's iPhone: Tucson till the last day could not move

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01:39:50.540 --> 01:39:55.830
Andrew's iPhone: too soon till I'll say good night, moon.