New Music - Lady Gaga! Fust! Melin Melyn! Candi Staton! Maud the Moth!

Don’t let it ever be said that @weheardwonders don’t have range! On the latest pod, Iain and Andrew discuss the potential reemergence of Radiohead, before playing and reviewing new records by returning pop royalty Lady Gaga, none-more-American alternative country band Fust, mellifluous Welsh millers Melin Melyn, sensational soul survivor Candi Staton and avant-classical-folk-metal world-weaver Maud The Moth. Something strutting of a sixties vintage has The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).

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Andrew's iPhone: Jack

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Andrew's iPhone: go again

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Andrew's iPhone: to see the air.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh.

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Andrew's iPhone: hello! And welcome to. We heard wonders. The music podcast that's on the right track, baby. We were born this way

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Alternate Line: Yay! How you doing, man?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, I'm pumped up after that.

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Alternate Line: I love. I love that radiohead song. I love airbag. I love Ok, computer, wonderful stuff. And I'm playing it because there's sort of rumours swirling.

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Alternate Line: and the 5 Radiohead members have

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Alternate Line: signed a sort of new. I mean, the details are kind of boring. They've signed some sort of like deal, and now they're

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Alternate Line: perhaps preparing to release new music or a tour.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes.

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Alternate Line: What's your thoughts on that

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's interesting, exciting, absolutely. Yeah. So it tends to be like whenever they whenever they can assign one of these new deals or or someone they create like a new web domain or something like that. It tends to suggest that there's something up. And so, yeah, so people are kind of like wondering what it might be at the moment, aren't they're saying that it might be a tour

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Andrew's iPhone: there's talk of maybe a 30th anniversary edition of the bends which wouldn't be as exciting.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then there's talk of maybe even like new material as well. So yeah, it'd be interesting to see see what happens

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Alternate Line: Well, I'm doing that thing that I occasionally do where I take your advice, but very late, because, you know I've this is not a word of sarcasm really do appreciate your view on music, and I take your opinions very seriously. But sometimes I just I don't know. I'm just too busy to do things or whatever.

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Alternate Line: M.

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Alternate Line: So last couple of days I have been listening to the 2 smile records back to back, which you pretty much told me to do. Let's be honest. You were like these are

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Alternate Line: and I just never. I never got around to it. But I've really enjoying both of them, particularly. The second one, I think, is really good. Wall of eyes. That's the second one, right?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, although there's there's been a I've heard one since then as well

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Alternate Line: Hasn't

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, there's 2 there was 2 last year. Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Oh, I'm

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, they're very prolific.

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Alternate Line: I'm all over the shop here. They've got another record coming out. Oh, is that the one that came out in October?

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Alternate Line: Although I don't remember what it's called. But yes, I'll okay. Right?

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Alternate Line: Right? Okay. What is it called

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Alternate Line: cutouts? I think it was called

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Alternate Line: outs is the latest one. Yeah, I saw when I was listening to it on spotify. I saw it was saying, new record coming out in October. And I thought, Wow, they're early like it's March. That's a big lead time for a record. But it was last October. Okay, what an idiot! Right? I'll get on with that then how you been, anyway, man.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'm good. I was at a wedding at the weekend there, so my mate, Mark, had been

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Andrew's iPhone: in Belfast on the stag. It was his wedding to his, his lovely new wife, Caitlin. And yeah, it was fantastic. Just keeling up a storm

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Alternate Line: Oh, nice!

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Andrew's iPhone: It was superb. And then there was a cool kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: request. Disco, where you could just choose what you want for the last kind of 3 h. So yeah, just everybody was.

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Andrew's iPhone: are they enjoying it? So

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Andrew's iPhone: Really enjoyed it.

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Alternate Line: Well, I'm going to raise my liquid death, which

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Andrew's iPhone: Sparkling water to them. So congrats to them.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, cheers Mark and Caitlin

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Alternate Line: Cool. Hello!

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Andrew's iPhone: How about yourself?

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Alternate Line: I haven't really been doing anything that all that exciting. To be honest, I think I may have said last time, and just been recording some music myself to kind of amuse myself and working on guitar parts and stuff like that. Nothing that exciting to be honest and working away all that good stuff. So yeah, that's me. Nothing super exciting to tell you about. That's that's it.

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Alternate Line: Keeping it tight

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Andrew's iPhone: Nice. What? What kind of what? What would you say? The kind of music that you're making sounds like? What? What

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Alternate Line: So I kind of just wanted to see right? How? How would I do that. How could I kind of approximate the sound of a Billie Eilish song? So so I tried. So I gave it a good old try. It's alright, but it's certainly nothing I would want to be using be using publicly. Certainly

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Alternate Line: fair enough.

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Alternate Line: So I have a little quizzy game for you. I know you like a wee quiz to get started. So we're just gonna play a wee game of guess the artist

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Andrew's iPhone: All right. Okay.

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Alternate Line: So it could be. It could be basically

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Alternate Line: any artist ever right. And I literally went on the Internet and got and did like a sort of random search. So I got it to spit me out. A random artist. So it could be. Basically.

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Alternate Line: No, not a producer. It's an artist. Apart from that, it could be practically anyone. But it's definitely someone you'll know. Okay, so it's not something that's like so obscure. It's like you'll have never heard of it. So I'll start off with like

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Alternate Line: and then we'll work. I've got 5 clues. By the time we get to 5th clue you'll have definitely worked it out, so we'll just go like, start with obscure and see. See if we can get you there. Okay, okay. So obscure clue number one is before finding success.

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Alternate Line: This artist spent over a decade playing under different names, including Soft and Mr. Soft.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I feel. I know I feel. I've heard that before, Mr.

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Alternate Line: If you if you get it from this. That's ridiculous.

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Andrew's iPhone: Soft and, Mr. Soft, I really feel like I've heard that before.

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Andrew's iPhone: So this is a band

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Alternate Line: It has a band

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Andrew's iPhone: I think I might know who is. Oh.

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Alternate Line: Is rdm, a guess?

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Andrew's iPhone: As a guest, but I feel like I've heard that before.

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Alternate Line: Incorrect, but it is a band. So you've made one important stride forward. Listen, I've got 5 clues, and that one was super obscure. So let's take the next clue and see how we go. All right.

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Alternate Line: And now you know, it's a band, so I can say we named ourselves after a line in the film. The Singing Detective.

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Alternate Line: Hmm!

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Andrew's iPhone: Not really listening to

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Alternate Line: Playing. Everyone's playing along at home

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Andrew's iPhone: It's a lane, and it's incentive

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Alternate Line: Well, I should say a quote from a singing detective. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: A. M.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, that's really annoying me.

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Alternate Line: I'll let that settle on you for a wee second, because I'm fairly sure if anything's going to give it away.

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Andrew's iPhone: And which I think, when the singer detective was, I think that was like seventies

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Alternate Line: Yeah. Second detectives. That's the film with Ringo in it. Right?

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Alternate Line: I'm going to search up. I'm going to help you out here by searching up facts about the singing detective.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there was like A was not like a TV adaptation of it as well

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Alternate Line: Yeah. TV miniseries. Starring. Michael Gambon

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so, and in this, in the seventies.

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Alternate Line: That was 86 for the TV miniseries, and Robert Downey, Jr.

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Alternate Line: It was in a 2,003 version of this, as well

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Andrew's iPhone: Robert Downey, Jr. Robin Wright, Mel Gibson.

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Alternate Line: Katie Holmes! Adrian Brodie! What? Whoa! What a weird cast! That's crazy!

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Alternate Line: That's crazy!

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Andrew's iPhone: Bye.

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Andrew's iPhone: Well

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Alternate Line: 5.4 out of 10 on Imdb for that one. Okay.

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Andrew's iPhone: Right.

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Alternate Line: Clue. Number 3, you ready for this

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: A front man has been compared to Peter Gabriel.

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Alternate Line: and we once covered Mercy Street in tribute to him

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, yes, I know who this is

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Alternate Line: You got it

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Andrew's iPhone: I've got it!

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Alternate Line: It's el elbow, isn't it?

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Alternate Line: So yeah. Before finding success, they spent over a decade playing under Mr. Different names, including soft and Mr. Soft

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I knew that

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Alternate Line: They named themselves after the line in the film, The Singing Detective, where elbow is described as the most sensual

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Andrew's iPhone: Stuff.

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Alternate Line: In the English language.

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Andrew's iPhone: Most essential, most satisfying word to say. I think that's

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Andrew's iPhone: It was

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Alternate Line: One of our most famous songs includes the lyric. When my face is shammy creased.

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Alternate Line: And the last clue is going to be. We're a Mercury prize winning band from Berry, known for cinematic anthemic Indie Rock, and our singers deep, warm vocals

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Andrew's iPhone: Very good.

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Alternate Line: Many congrats, many congrats on your big success right? We didn't come here to quiz.

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Alternate Line: kick some ass and chew some bubble gum, and we're all out of bubble gum.

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Alternate Line: Also review new music. So what's up on the slate today, Andrew?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. So we have new music from Lady Gaga.

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Andrew's iPhone: 1st melon melon candy stating, and MoD them off

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's been some since then. There was chromatica, which was the the last kind of one that was, yeah, a proper like Lady Gaga record, you know, and she's she's been doing lots of different projects. She's she did those those 2 jazz records with Tony Bennett.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes.

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Andrew's iPhone: I know. Yeah. And there was also a record that she made last year, Harlequin, which was like an accompaniment to the the joker. Folia do

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Alternate Line: Fully, and deets

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so so she's she's been doing a lot of kind of

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Alternate Line: And scream at the back. There'll be a fantasy.

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Alternate Line: Hello!

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Alternate Line: I lighten up my final cigarette hour in the hole right through your eyes.

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Alternate Line: Hello, killer!

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Alternate Line: So this lady Gaga Uhelstein! With with killer

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Alternate Line: You may have thought I misspoke earlier on when I said her trying to be a little bit German, because I've seen is obviously French French producer, and whatever wizard technical wizard

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Alternate Line: But the reason I say that is because the Techno section in the middle of that feels like I'm in a like Berlin club or something like that, and I think that sort of euro sound is one that she's often kind of hankered back to, especially on like born this way. That record she had from bjonks ago.

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Alternate Line: I thought she really really did hanker after that sound. So I did not misspeak. I just misrepresented my views. So yeah, I think that's a bit of a banger. I think I'm into saying that that is a banger. What's a year

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep, I completely agree. Yeah, I just. I thought this would be a good way to open the show this week, and, as you say it's it's her kind of going back to to something that she's kind of done previously.

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Andrew's iPhone: You know you where you get like, Pop. Pop. Artists that have like long careers. There's certain periods where they they're kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: And then there's other moments where they feel really kind of inspired. And

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Andrew's iPhone: lots of really fantastic tracks like this, and that do have quite a hard edge to them. Kind of slight kind of industrial edge. People have been talking a lot about kind of 9 inch nails and things like that when they've talked about this record

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. And and this track in particular has got it's it's undeniably Prince influenced, I think, as well as like some of Bowie's work with Nell Rogers. So there's there's just that kind of usual mix that you get Lady Gaga where she is kind of blending influences together. And but yeah, I just think this is a really good track. Electro funk. Banger, this one

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's that's kind of what I was meaning when I was talking like that kind of idea of putting into work. Because it's like this track would have been perfectly fine without that section. But yeah, no, I'm gonna go for it. I'm gonna you know, kind of fill every moment with information kind of thing, and just take it somewhere else.

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Andrew's iPhone: As I say, there's lots of bangers in the 1st half of the record. It does. It does fall away from me kind of confounded by the fact that it ends with these 2 ballads, including the track that she did with Bruno Mars. That one that's just been absolute monster hit. But I've never, never really done much for me. The guy with a smile track. But yeah, as I say, in the 1st half, there's just

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Andrew's iPhone: track after track. That's just fantastic. What do you make of that line? Gonna make the curtains cream? Believe it? That's that's quite a line, isn't it?

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Andrew's iPhone: I said fuss, but I meant to check this.

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Andrew's iPhone: first, st not the 1 1st plus which. Yeah, that should have been my my instinct. But yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Ha-ha!

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Andrew's iPhone: So at the end of the last decade and the beginning of this one 1st was the demoing vehicle of Aaron. Dowdy. So he's he's the singer and songwriter and first, st and and he was living in New York at the time, and then when he moved back to North Carolina. That's when it. The project grew and it become a full band project. And and now they're up to a 7 piece.

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Andrew's iPhone: and there have been 2 previous full lengths called Evil Joy and Genevieve gain support on a claim.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they look set to kind of expand that fan base. Further, with this new lp called big, ugly.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it's produced by Alex Farah, who's the kind of go to man at the moment for that kind of, as you say, that kind of big, crunchy alternative rock sound. Yeah. And so it's kind of recent discography includes records by indigo de souza squirrel, squirrel flower hotline Tnt, as well as the Wednesday Album, Ratsog God, and that excellent Mj. Lindeman album. From last year, manning Fireworks. They were all produced by Farah

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Andrew's iPhone: and kind of like going back to the southern parts of that State, and he was kind of seeing her old haunts where she used to hang out.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and kind of taking, like, you know, stories of your elders. So I get it kind of it's kind of harking back to that kind of folk idea, like Dylan, or or like the band. You know that kind of idea kind of going back to big pink and that kind of thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: retelling true stories through through fictional songs. Yeah. So that's kind of what he's doing with this with this project. The album's called big, ugly. And yeah, I think it's it's a really good record. This

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Alternate Line: yeah. I find this really interesting. First, st a really interesting artist. I had to Google what it meant by gate leg, and the best thing I come up with is, I think it's a table like it's just a gate leg table. I'm missing something. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, as I understand it, it's about a character who's willing to to change his job and his lifestyle to be with and assist this lady called Maggie. So they're talking about Maggie Maggie's store, so as far as I can tell with Maggie, she's kind of struggling to get by. She's inherited a store from her father.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which he carries down the mountain. And the idea. So it's a gate leg table. So the idea of a gate leg table is that it's got these kind of hinged leaves that fold down

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Andrew's iPhone: And one of the ones that I wrote down was robust. You were kind of talking about that kind of like that kind of big sound. But yeah, it's just a really robust, grown up classy record. I think it's very good for the style that it is. I think it's a very, very good version of it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, as as the 1st track on the record. I I'm trying to. I'm trying to decide if I should

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Andrew's iPhone: Gorkys. There's an undervalued group called racehorses, who I really like as well. That do that thing really well, and Mellon Mellon are the kind of the latest to do that. So, as you say, they're a Welsh 6 piece. Their name translates to Yellow Mill in Welsh, as you said.

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Andrew's iPhone: and in their press notes they talk about merly Mellon not just being a band. They're world builders, storytellers, absorbing various elements of the increasingly strange times around us, and using them to create fables that ruminate on grief, love, and hope.

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Andrew's iPhone: So the albums set in this Utopian melon village where the the townsfolk bask in the beauty of song.

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Andrew's iPhone: some of the tracks. Are kind of relatively straight ahead. Kind of indie pop, and then there's some other tracks that that are done with a bit more instrumentation. So there's like kind of sax, and there's keys in there. They've got a full time pedal steel player in the group and they're not afraid to use them.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then there's a lot of other tracks that kind of veer off into Surf Rock, Prague sunshine psych.

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Andrew's iPhone: And this track isn't necessarily my favorite track on the album. There's a track called Vitamin D, which is a really really great track. I was like the 1st track that I'd kind of heard by them. This is really kind of insistent, enjoyable 3 min ditty. But yeah, I chose this one because it's it's the title track. It's the 1st track.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it kind of literally serves as a kind of intro to the record and the world of the album. So in the intro there, it says, in a land far away somewhere no one will find there's a magical village with occupants galore that bask in the beauty of song.

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Andrew's iPhone: and we're introduced to the band who describe themselves as the millers. So it's them that's kind of playing the music that powers the mill. And so yeah, so it's all very.

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Andrew's iPhone: so yeah, so there's something kind of a little bit kind of magical mystery tour full on the hill. I guess either beatles about the kind of intro, I think, with that kind of organ. That kind of imitates the kind of flute sound almost. And then, as I say, you get the door opening to the mill, and it kind of breaks into this more kind of galloping

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Andrew's iPhone: I think it's good fun

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, I there's a there's a space in my life for this. I think I like my psychedelic pop and stuff. I don't think this is like top tier stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: They're almost kind of blowing their cover by admitting that they're a bit annoying. Words I wrote were a bit twee a bit, Zany. There's tracks called. There's a track called fantastic food, and then there's another track called the Pigeon and the Golden Egg.

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Andrew's iPhone: Fair enough. Well, they said themselves that they're the divisive. So there we go.

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Alternate Line: They've divided us a little bit a little bit. Cool, that's fun. Nevertheless, it's fun to chat about that. Okay, on something very, very, very different now. So who's next?

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Andrew's iPhone: Thank you. Well, yeah, some somebody who's who's not not a divisive character in my eyes, absolute soul legend, someone who's simultaneously a legend, and greatly underappreciated, I think, as a performer, one of my all-time favorite voices, candy stateton.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's it's it's a it's a track from her latest record

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's been a few. Yeah. I remember there was a record in 2,006 that candy stating did. It was called his hands, and it was at the time that felt like a late period comeback, and that was 20 years ago, but that was like recorded with members of lamb chop, and it featured songs by Will Oldham and Meryl Haggard. And that was a nice record.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I just think it's incredible that she's still doing what she's doing. This is a career that spans over 55 years at this point. And I specifically chose this for a couple of reasons. When any excuse for me to talk about candy State, and I'm probably going to take it. And the second one is that this new album is going to be our last. So she's announced that this is going to be our kind of Swan song. So I thought.

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Andrew's iPhone: Every evening after prayer, when she took us on the front porch. I want to dedicate this one to mama.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's gonna rain.

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Andrew's iPhone: But 5 next time, way back in

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Andrew's iPhone: But when it happened they were left.

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Andrew's iPhone: God show! No, not the Rainbow sign in no way.

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Andrew's iPhone: But my!

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Andrew's iPhone: This time it helped me with the water. Oh, yeah, began to fall door and doors.

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Andrew's iPhone: Exactly what to do here.

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Andrew's iPhone: You don't this to happen to you? My.

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Andrew's iPhone: it's gonna rain, and you better get ready embarrassing my.

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Andrew's iPhone: and not so I'm the Rainbow side.

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Andrew's iPhone: Don't be one, but find this town.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's gonna rain, my children, it's gonna Ray.

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Andrew's iPhone: You better not get ready embarrassing. My

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Andrew's iPhone: God, so no, so not the rainbows. I it won't be one but 5.

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Andrew's iPhone: Next time.

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Andrew's iPhone: No, I said, I'm sorry. I'm sorry my friend

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Andrew's iPhone: got the key, and you can't get in. If something don't happen to the heart of man

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Andrew's iPhone: thing for real.

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Andrew's iPhone: And again, it's gonna rain. Get ready. It's gonna rain embarrassing my

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Andrew's iPhone: show. No shown. I'm the Rainbow side.

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Andrew's iPhone: It won't be wild.

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Andrew's iPhone: But goodbye.

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Andrew's iPhone: Time is going around.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's gonna rain. You better get ready.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's in my, so no shown on the Rainbow side won't be water but 5.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's time a

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Alternate Line: Well, there you go, sounding sounding pretty

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Alternate Line: authentic and evocative and weather beaten. But in a totally different set of ways. There's it's gonna rain, a gospel standard which I think

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Alternate Line: she kind of talks us through at the start of the start of the track. I get the impression that's not.

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Alternate Line: and that's not just for the the cameras, so to speak. I think that's probably the truth. But her mom singing this to her when she was a kiddo. So that's very in keeping with the concept of this being our last record. And back to her roots, which is the name of the

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: The album and all that sort of stuff.

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Alternate Line: yeah, what do you think? Tell us? Tell us, tell us what brought this brought us in for you

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, as I say, just just just the chance to to talk about her in in this last record. And the album itself is is.

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Andrew's iPhone: it's a re as a real family affair. So as you as you as you say, there's there's that! There's that spoken word. But the start of the track, which says, every day we had to sing this song. She didn't let us rest until we sung this song, referring to her mother, and this track to duet with Maggie Staten Peebles, who's a candy's sister.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and the album is produced by Candy's son Marcus.

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Andrew's iPhone: her other son, Marcel is on Bass, and her daughter is on backing vocal. So yeah, so real kind of family affair

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Andrew's iPhone: that back to roots concept. And yeah, I just think this is one of the the stronger tracks on the record. So it's a real kind of hodgepodge of a record in a lot of ways. So there's there's these kind of gospel spirit shows which have obviously been part of her life

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Andrew's iPhone: for a long, long time, dating back to our childhood. And there's a version of There will be peace in the valley, and I think it's debatable whether we need another version of there will be

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Alternate Line: At this point

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Andrew's iPhone: And that that one doesn't work as well for me. But I think this one does have a kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: freshness still to it. It's it's the way they've recorded it, the kind of arrangement of it's quite powered back. And I think that works really well.

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Andrew's iPhone: I really like the fact that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And you know, despite her voice obviously being, she kind of wave with an age you can still tell. It's candy state, and I think there's still that kind of distinctive tone to her voice which I really like.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so yes, I do think this is one of the highlights on the record, as I say, as a hodgepodge. So there's these spirituals, there's original tracks. And then there's some more kind of surprising.

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Andrew's iPhone: more interesting covers on there as well. There's a version of My God has a telephone which is a track by current Soul star Aaron Fraser, who is part of the John Jones indications.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. And so that's a kind of interesting choice for her to make it. And she's just she just celebrated her 84th birthday. So I think it's pretty cool that she's she's still kind of got her ear to the ground in that respect. There's also a really nice take on shine a light by the stones, you know, from Excel, Main Street, which is probably

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Andrew's iPhone: great record, great track, and it's probably the most gospel indebted

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Andrew's iPhone: track that the stones probably ever did. So. I think it's really cool to hear her

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Andrew's iPhone: do a version of that.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I think that there's a little bit of inconsistency across the production on the album. You can tell that the recordings being made in different locations at different times like that. Stones cover, for example, dates back to 2020,

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Andrew's iPhone: and then I've tracks with them more recently. But when it's good it's very good, and I just think it's very cool that she's kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: going out in a high. Really, I think with this with this album. And it's it's a classy offering. And I just think she's absolutely fantastic.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: I can't. I think

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Alternate Line: But this this song is

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Alternate Line: Oh, how do I say this without using the dreadful cliche? But it is what it is. You know this. This is that sort of late late period, soul singer standards. Kind of kind of thing. The lyrics to it's gonna rain are

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Alternate Line: really depressing. Really, I would say and the concept of it's going to rain, I guess, is sort of

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Alternate Line: I guess it's a sort of life advice thing, isn't it like? Get used to tough times? Because that's that's the way it is. But the the refrain at the end of the at the end of the chorus is like, you know, God's watching, and the next time God

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Alternate Line: catches up with you it's not gonna be rain. It's gonna be fire, which is just like Hmm, alright and I think I can make a gentle segue into

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Alternate Line: You can't really count yourself as a proper music fan without enjoying and loving the song. Young hearts run free by candy, stating and the story behind the the creation of the track and the the meaning behind lyrics and everything.

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Alternate Line: I read an interview with her in research, for here she was saying that that the the vocal performance you hear on young hearts run free is the 1st take.

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Alternate Line: And because she felt so emotional about the lyrics, and she felt like she was to quote her singing her own life that when she recorded the 1st take like, I can't imagine even me, you know a hack in comparison.

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Alternate Line: ever ever releasing a piece of music where it was the 1st take of anything.

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Alternate Line: You know what I mean. You just don't. You don't trust the 1st take, because you're just like right. Okay, that's that's all right. Let's hear that back right? And she basically did it more times. But what you hear on the record is her 1st take. It's about an abusive relationship and her getting out, and then it was taken over by the LGBT movement and community, and and so on. So it's interesting hearing the same person

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Alternate Line: a long time later, singing a song like, It's gonna rain. You know, it's really interesting that that's that sort of message about

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Alternate Line: difficulty in life and standing up to difficult times and all that kind of stuff. It's the same person it does. It does tell a life's journey, doesn't it?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, no, I think that's like, that's a really good point, absolutely. And, as I say, just this incredible career, over 55 years started

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Andrew's iPhone: making these amazing sovereign soul records in the in the sixties.

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Andrew's iPhone: and obviously had that disco chart topper with young hearts run free. There was that you got the love the record that she did with the source in the in the late eighties, which then got a new life for the Florence cover. So it's just a brilliant how she's kind of gone through these different phases. And

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Andrew's iPhone: kind of play with different styles and that kind of thing. And yeah, just I just think she's

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Andrew's iPhone: she's 1 of the greats in my eyes.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I think she's absolutely fantastic.

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Alternate Line: Okay? Well, Candy Stepton calls a career with that record. So one for the soul heads.

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Alternate Line: right? So this next track is Maude the moth.

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Alternate Line: and the track is the temple by the river. Can we just dive straight into this one

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Andrew's iPhone: Let's go for

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Alternate Line: There we go.

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Alternate Line: My body is a damned!

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Alternate Line: The by the river, a crap of flesh.

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Alternate Line: Okay.

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Alternate Line: Why don't save life to the

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Alternate Line: true shelter high.

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Alternate Line: Oh.

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Alternate Line: oh!

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Alternate Line: I shine the blue where word!

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Alternate Line: And only in my life!

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Alternate Line: My!

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Alternate Line: Oh.

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Alternate Line: oh

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Alternate Line: no!

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Alternate Line: Is not enough!

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Alternate Line: It's not enough, is not ain't know

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Alternate Line: my body by the temple.

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Alternate Line: Here's a river.

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Alternate Line: Homes of red strong.

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Alternate Line: all right, there is. Oh, oh.

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Alternate Line: sorry if I did undercut the drama of the end of the track there with Mike a call. I couldn't help myself

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Alternate Line: right? There's a lot to say about this track. I don't know where to even really begin it's so

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Alternate Line: melodramatic and so like just

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Alternate Line: over the top, in a way

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Raw and and stuff, but it's also really kind of charming as well. It's

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Alternate Line: do you know, it touches it? Just it just about gets to like sort of blood incantation levels of metal in the middle as well, just nearly just like almost but it's it's it's also a ballad. It's also kind of like haunting and creepy.

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Alternate Line: it's just really, it's just really weird. It's really a weird. It's really a weird piece of music. It's like, you know, it's like it's like,

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Alternate Line: It's a wee bit like evanescence. Remember, evanescence. Bring me to life.

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Alternate Line: I do. It's good, kind of metaly operatic kind of thing. But obviously that's a very like commercialised

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Andrew's iPhone: It's a kind of pop version of

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Alternate Line: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is about a good, a good dose, more avant garde than that. But like,

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Alternate Line: yeah, man, it's like brain explosion, type, music. There.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean that. That's a very kind of similar reaction that I had the 1st time I listened to to to this track and this album.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so modem off is the solo project of Spanish born and Scotland, based pianist, singer and songwriter, Amaya Lopez Caromiro.

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Andrew's iPhone: And this is a track from her recently released new album called the the Staff.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and there are a few things that put this project on my radar. The 1st was obviously the the Scott Scotland connection, and the fact

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Andrew's iPhone: that I saw that modem off was doing it in store at the very fine Glasgow record shop some great reward to kind of mark the release of this album.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then the second thing was a post by the journalist, Dom Lawson. Who's who used to write for the Guardian now writes for like prog magazine and metal hammer.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he kind of specializes in all things progressive, experimental, and metal.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he described this album as miraculous stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: and named his album of the year so far so that that kind of me kind of piqued my interest a little bit, so I was kind of keen to find out what was going on here, and it turned out there's a lot going on here. This is a really full blooded, full, throated music as catharsis project.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I just I I just, I'm I'm kind of intrigued by this project. And and the more that I've kind of listened to it, the more that I've kind of got into it, I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so the distaff it refers to the stick or spindle onto which wool or flax is wound for spinning.

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Andrew's iPhone: When you're spinning yarn

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Alternate Line: And it was an object which is historically used across multiple cultures as a symbol wielded by the virtuous woman. Yes, which, according to Amaya.

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Andrew's iPhone: Is an authoritarian ideal around which much of the trauma surrounding feminine coalesces.

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Andrew's iPhone: So so, yeah, so she's kind of like exploring

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Andrew's iPhone: kind of aspects of femininity. Here

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Alternate Line: Look at us fucking, lumbering out here

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Andrew's iPhone: I know.

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Andrew's iPhone: Okay, absolutely.

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Alternate Line: We're doing a

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Andrew's iPhone: It's

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Alternate Line: We'll try and

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Andrew's iPhone: We'll try it a bit

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Alternate Line: How does?

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Andrew's iPhone: And she's talked about it kind of exploring generational trauma and things like that as well. So that there's kind of like autobiographical elements to this.

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Andrew's iPhone: M,

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Andrew's iPhone: and yeah, it's just just a really kind of dense, interesting project. It's it's interesting to me that these these tracks started off as just piano based pieces

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Andrew's iPhone: written by by Maud purely in that kind of singer, songwriter fashion.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then over time she's she's built them up with a series of like pretty extraordinary musicians. Actually, so, Seb Rochford is on drums, who is just an absolutely incredible drummer.

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Andrew's iPhone: just worked with all manner of projects over time. Sons of chemic polar bear pulled by magnets. Just an amazing jazz drummer can turn his hand to anything. Alison Chesley on cello, Faye wifo on violin.

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Andrew's iPhone: and Scott Mclean on guitar, Sax and synthesizer. So Scott Mclean collaborated with Amaya in a bank called Healthy Living.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he's also part of the group ash inspire. I don't know if you remember. We viewed, reviewed one of their tracks a few years back.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's this really kind of cool, progressive black metal project from Glasgow.

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Alternate Line: I do remember

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Andrew's iPhone: Very, very intense, very cool.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, so I think there's definitely that kind of similar you can. You can detect that energy there. So there's like kind of metal, as you say, that element. But

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Andrew's iPhone: there's classical music in here. There's like piano, singer, songwriter stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just that kind of theatricality to the whole thing, which I think is just really intriguing. It's kind of always kind of teetering on the brink of overwhelming, but it's also it's got a real kind of elegance to the whole thing as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: You could tell there's a real kind of care that's been put in the kind of construction of this. This music. She's talked about wanting to

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Andrew's iPhone: M have the natural dynamics and expression of free performance.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think I think she's managed to achieve that.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I think that. And it was mastered by Alex Wharton, who's done a lot of stuff for radiohead. My buddy, Valentine, Catherine Joseph.

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Andrew's iPhone: So I was. Just I think I think they've managed to capture something that's really quite unique in its way. And

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Andrew's iPhone: it's got yeah. It's got a real kind of scope to it, and I think it's just one of those ones that the more you kind of delve in.

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Andrew's iPhone: and the more you discover. So I just it's not easy listening.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it's it's 1 of those kind of records that's

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Andrew's iPhone: asking a fair amount of from the listener. It's almost kind of demanding your undivided attention. But I just admire how kind of full on bold theatrical is, and how different it is, and

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Alternate Line: Certainly I certainly can

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Andrew's iPhone: Of anything that sounds quite like it. I know you're saying we're saying some things, but it's not. It's not exactly what what it is, you know.

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Alternate Line: It's kind of like. It's maybe like post classical. In a way, it's got that kind of vibe to it where it's like. It's sort of theatrical classical music operatic. But then it's got the flavors of heavy metal.

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Alternate Line: This might be controversial, because we're talking about some very talented musicians here the drummer

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Alternate Line: primarily amongst those they got chops, these guys, for sure.

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Alternate Line: but I I think I would either rather hear mode them off just with piano.

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Alternate Line: because I think actually, that may even

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Alternate Line: heighten the dramatic tension even more.

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Alternate Line: you know, with it being, you know, that classic kind of piano and vocal thing would be, would be very dramatic.

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Alternate Line: or I would quite like to hear this

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Alternate Line: with the, you know, with the metal turned up to like a thousand, you know to like to really to really go in that I do like a lot of Scott Mclean's guitar sounds on this track.

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Alternate Line: but it it does stay relatively safe

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Alternate Line: in terms of of the metal sounds. You know.

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Andrew's iPhone: Have.

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Alternate Line: It. It is well within the sort of

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Alternate Line: the comfort zone of anyone who's vaguely listened to like Metallica once, you know, there's nothing in here that will cause you to go. You know what I mean. We have listened to you, and I have listened to metal a few times. That is very progressive and and really kind of challenges you and makes you think

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Alternate Line: So this is challenging in a different way. But I I kind of almost wish it was more extreme in a way.

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Alternate Line: so I feel like I feel like mode has has

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Alternate Line: more places to go. But it's a

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Alternate Line: yeah, it's a very, it's a. It's a very complicated song. I'm almost like a loss for words with it, because it is just so

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Alternate Line: powerful. I feel like this is just me being honest, like the generational trauma women, the staff element of things like

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Alternate Line: I just can't engage with it. I just like I just. I don't understand it in a way I know. I'm sounding like sort of old man yells at Cloud here, but like I mean, I literally don't understand it. I don't mean like I'm saying I don't give a shit about it. I mean, like I'm trying, but I just like

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Alternate Line: I kind of don't know what what she's really sort of on about in a way. And

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Alternate Line: yeah. So it's sort of holding me out to a certain extent.

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Alternate Line: But yeah, it's just. It's just a lot. It's just like a sort of it's. It's very extra, as the young folks might say. It's very over the top.

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Alternate Line: so so yeah. But the but more

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Alternate Line: I don't know. Mods mods. Are we saying? MoD as in she is? MoD. I don't know, so I've kind of defaulted into saying this. She herself is very, very talented. I think the vocals are the greatest tool on this. On this on this thing.

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Alternate Line: very powerful. And then, you know, they're not as they're playing with dynamics here as well a lot. And and that's that's a clever thing that's done on this record.

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Alternate Line: so yeah, I'm interested. I would be really interested to see what the next MoD, the moth record sounds like. I'll be wondering what

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Alternate Line: you know. Their reflection is on this, and could they have gone further and and so on?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: I'd say there's other bits on the album that may be a little bit heavier. There's ones that even stretch out a bit longer. There's like 9 min tracks on the record, like as as an experience as an album. But yeah, I know what you mean. I think there's the scope to go even further, actually, which is incredible to say. But yeah, I think it's a really interesting project. I've seen modern described as an alter ego. So I think it is okay to

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Andrew's iPhone: to call her Amaya or Maude. And

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Andrew's iPhone: but yeah, I think it's it's a. It's it's 1. i'd encourage people to check out this record because it's 1 that's kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: it's it's obviously got few like a select group of people that have gravitated towards it. And they're really passionate about it.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so it'd be nice for it to kind of reach some more years. I think I think that as a as you said, the kind of dynamics of it.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's some real care that's been put into this album. I think it is.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, definitely, it's a proper album. So I think

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Andrew's iPhone: it deserves to be heard. And yeah, it's going to be interesting to see where she takes it next as well

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Alternate Line: Excellent.

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Alternate Line: yeah. And do you know what? There's a lot of like? Very, very safe stayed music out there? If you really want to listen to the same pesh over and over again. You absolutely can. And this is definitely not that. So this is this is, I was maybe a little dismissive of the intellectual ideas behind this. But there's some complex intellectual thought going on here and and musically as well. So there's a lot going on here so

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Alternate Line: definitely worth a listen, I will listen to this record. I'll listen to it quickly.

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Alternate Line: I wouldn't like

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Andrew's iPhone: To be like

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Alternate Line: The smile where it takes me 2 years to realize that I should have listened to it in the 1st place.

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Alternate Line: anyway, sometimes at this point in the show. Andrew, I'll say to you here, what was it that you know brought these 5 tracks together? But I already know there's nothing that brought these 5 tracks together

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Andrew's iPhone: These are just like.

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Alternate Line: Like 5 things you listened to recently that you thought were interesting. Am I right, or am I barking up

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Andrew's iPhone: No, you're right, you're right. But yeah. But but I mean, they're all albums that are now out. So yeah, so yes, they've just come out. That's the thing that links them, but that's the only thing to link them

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Alternate Line: Yeah. And I believe. Actually, Lady Gaga was just on snl Saturday night, live last week, or something promoting and and performed killer, and I think melan melon there on Saturday night, live next

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Andrew's iPhone: Is that right? Hi!

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Alternate Line: I'll be on mail and mailing Tvs Saturday night. Live? Right? Okay. So that takes us along to our

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Alternate Line: final feature. Or vinyl word. This is obviously an audio medium, so you can't see what I can see. But I'm here on zoom with Andrew, and I can see just over there. I'm pointing at them right now. Hunters are records just right up there on his shelf. So what he does at this point is, he gives us something from his personal stock. Sometimes it's a really easy, obvious link. Sometimes it's a bit more obscure.

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Alternate Line: and he tells us all about it to plays out. So just before we do that, I'm just going to say, guys, we love you supporting this podcast thanks for hanging about with us, for

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Alternate Line: I don't even know how long, how long have we done this? 4 years? Something like that

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, 3 and a half, 4 years. Telephone

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01:31:47.920 --> 01:32:05.780
Alternate Line: Unbelievable. So, thanks for hanging about with us. We've been since Episode One. The best way to support the show is obviously just to listen to it and to tell your friends there's 2 reasonably interesting chaps talking about weird music. If you want to hear it. If you do want to support the podcast financially. You definitely can

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Alternate Line: and you can do that by going to Www, dot, buy meacoffee.com slash. We heardwonders is now a good time to mention that lovely message. We got on Instagram earlier in the week from Gary

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, we could do, yeah, absolutely.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I've got. I've got the call

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, if you got it! Oh, good, good man.

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Alternate Line: Yes, it's in our in our chat, but Gary's been a long term long term long time. Listener of the show. And he sent us a lovely message. It's a private message. I don't read the

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Alternate Line: the details, but he just says, Andrew, he's not actually written to me.

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Alternate Line: for whatever reason did it rate to you personally? Or is this her? Is this her Instagram?

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Andrew's iPhone: It was to me. But yeah, it's it's always all related to this

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I'll just. I'll just pretend you said me as well. So Andrew brackets, Ian, it's been a while, but don't worry. Haven't given up on you still an avid listener still think you're the best music review podcast out there. So gave myself the task of listening to all 64 of your best of 2024 list on Instagram. He's probably wondered. Why was it 64, and not 50 or 70

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Andrew's iPhone: 5,

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Alternate Line: Or whatever I don't know but yes, and he he goes on to say that that was a good thing to do and

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Alternate Line: and he's listened to. Magdalena Bay says, great record. So on and so and so on, so nice to interact with Gary again, for the 1st time. In a little while he stuck with us.

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Alternate Line: We've stuck with doing this podcast. For a really long time. There's lots of people like him out there that have listened to podcasts. So, thanks to all of you, if you want to support us, you can but just keep listening. That's the main thing, Andrew

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Alternate Line: Vinyl words. Please

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Andrew's iPhone: Okay. So yeah, so early in the podcast. We heard something from the very last album, from candy stateton. And so I thought it'd be nice to place it with something from the very start of her career I 1st became a proper fan of hers. Thanks to

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Andrew's iPhone: a fantastic, a compilation from 2,004,

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Andrew's iPhone: which I'm sure I must have mentioned on the show before, because I'm just always wanging on about how incredible this collection is, but it was released through Damon Alborn's honest John's label. It's just called candy stating, and it collects many of the recordings that she made at Fame Studios and Muscle Shoals between 1969 and 1973.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think it's 26 tracks on it

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Andrew's iPhone: all gold. And there's there's hard edged horn assisted funk, absolutely stunning Southern soul, heart wrenchers

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Andrew's iPhone: as well as dances into gospel and country. So there's like quite famous versions that she's done of in the Ghetto and Tammy Winet. Stand by your man.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I just genuinely think it's 1 of the finest collections of soul music put together. I just think it's as good as it gets, and it had a massive impact on my listening habits when I heard it back in 2,004. So yeah, I just thought it'd be nice to play us out with that Comps opening track this week, which is called. I'm just a prisoner for your good, loving

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Alternate Line: Excellent. I did wonder if if this week's vinyl word would just be. This is another song by candy State. But no, it was, it was a bit more heartfelt than that. So that's really

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Andrew's iPhone: Because

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Alternate Line: Okay? So yeah, I guess all that's left for us to say is, goodbye, everyone, and we'll see you down the road

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Andrew's iPhone: See you soon, guys.

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Andrew's iPhone: rather then to as you

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Andrew's iPhone: than to be all alone.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, my cause, if you so, my!

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Andrew's iPhone: Just

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Andrew's iPhone: all your love.

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Andrew's iPhone: Hi.

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, if you should leave me.

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And other couldn't take it, baby.

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Andrew's iPhone: for you to say

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm just a

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Andrew's iPhone: no.

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Andrew's iPhone: just couldn't stand.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, yeah, holy, I'd be in captivity.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: The word couldn't take it

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Andrew's iPhone: well

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Andrew's iPhone: unchanged.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh.