Scotland in Stereo: Barry Can’t Swim, Lavinia Blackwall, The Cords, Ian Humberstone & Colin Steele Quartet

Even more so than usual, this week’s episode of the @weheardwonders podcast is one made in Scotland, with all five acts up for review hailing from north of the border. It’s an eclectic bunch too, taking in Barry Can’t Swim’s bangin’ and increasingly ubiquitous dance-pop, Lavinia Blackwall’s out-of-time folk-rock, the youthful exuberance of The Cords, the worldly, old-worldy storytelling of Ian Humberstone, and Colin Steele Quartet stepping out into the night with their interpretations of The Blue Nile. Something ragingly potent and wonderful has The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).

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Transcript

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Alternate Line: You've got mail.

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Alternate Line: Hello, and welcome to We Heard Wonders, the music podcast that screams along with our friends that dial-up internet is the purest internet. Andrew, how are you doing?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep, pure glad to be here.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that is, the notoriously wonderful and weird Slime City. We had Michael from Slime City on the podcast a while ago, and I was brought to mind of the song, Dial Up Internet is the Purest Internet, from the thing I read on the internet the other day, that AOL

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Alternate Line: is withdrawing its dial-up service, in 2025, and I was like, wow, they still did one? Like, it's crazy to me, those are the things.

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Alternate Line: And the first person I thought of was instantly, Michael from Slime City, who I know will be distraught at this news.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Yeah, all those kind of, 90s references and early 2000 references, Michael's all over them.

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Alternate Line: Meth was all over them.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so… I noticed that they're playing some live shows as well. They've just announced some live shows.

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Alternate Line: They've announced some live shows, and … how do we look there? The Instagram…

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Alternate Line: story that had the dates on has gone, unfortunately, so unless you've just committed them to memory, I don't think you're… I don't think I'm gonna know where that was.

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Andrew's iPhone: He's always, like, so self-deprecating a bit of everything as well. He's, like, Maui Bando playing these.

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Alternate Line: Mo Eva.

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Andrew's iPhone: Please, please come, kind of thing, but oh, he's brilliant.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, it'd be brilliant. So, I think we'll try and… well, I'll certainly try and go to that Slime City gig if I can… if I can manage it. We had a good night out last time. Who was there as well? Biz was there.

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Alternate Line: I forget the name of the opening act, but Biz were great, and Slime Sethi were great, so… yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so we are… we are, running late, I say, allowing people to hear how the sausage is made, as a result of me forcing everyone to watch a dreadful game of football.

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Andrew's iPhone: Before we started recording, I do apologize for that. Yeah, thanks for that.

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Alternate Line: So I think we're gonna, we're gonna cut down the witty banter section here down to just bare minimum, and then get stuck in with the, with the actual playlist, which is maybe what everyone really wants, anyway. Give the people what they want. …

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Alternate Line: So, so yeah, I will take the time to just say, Andrew, would you like to introduce yourself?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, my name is Andrew, I buy records and write about them on Instagram, at KidAGH86.

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Alternate Line: And, Andrew's Instagram is the purest Instagram.

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Alternate Line: My name's, Ian, I'm a guitarist in Glasgow band Deadline Shakes, and you can catch us on all the social media platforms at Deadline Shakes. So, so yeah, we're pretty much gonna get, stuck straight into, …

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Alternate Line: this week's playlist, I think. I'm gonna ask… it's a question I don't ask every week, but I'm gonna ask this week. Is there a sort of through-line of thought, on this week's playlist, or is this just what's good, the now?

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Andrew's iPhone: Surprisingly enough, there is, this week, yeah, totally. So… I'd noticed that there was a couple of tracks that I definitely wanted to play in the podcast that were, from….

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Andrew's iPhone: And then I thought, well, why not just…

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Andrew's iPhone: keep going with that theme, and keep digging, and keep thinking about things that have come out in the last few months, from Scotland.

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Andrew's iPhone: So… so that, yeah, so that's what we've gone with. We've got an all-Scottish lineup this week, which is pretty cool.

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Alternate Line: Yes, very nice, very nice, very nice. You know that that means I feel a sort of moral obligation to be nicer.

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Alternate Line: Than I would be if it was just someone from, like, Tacoma, or, you know, Michigan, or whatever. But, I will do my best to be straight as an arrow, this week, and just tell you… just tell you like it is, you know? Like one of those football pundits, like Jamie Carragher or something like that.

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Alternate Line: … Okay, so, this week on our podcast, we have, …

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Alternate Line: Baddy Can't Swim, we have Lavinia Blackwell, we have The Chords, we have Ian Humberston, and we have the Colin Steele, Quartet.

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Alternate Line: Yes?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, indeed. I think this gives us a kind of good…

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Andrew's iPhone: idea of the, kind of, breadth of stuff that's coming out of Scotland as well. There's a lot of, kind of, different styles across these five tracks, so yeah, plenty to talk about. So the first track this week is a track called Still Riding by Barry Can't Swim.

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Alternate Line: Okay, here we go.

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Andrew's iPhone: Here we go.

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Alternate Line: Sort of, here we go, right over the top of your, here we go, I apologize. But here we go.

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Alternate Line: Nevertheless, here we go.

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Andrew's iPhone: Give it a go.

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Alternate Line: I'm an idiot.

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Alternate Line: What's too late?

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Alternate Line: What you might forever.

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Alternate Line: What'd you like?

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Alternate Line: Oh my god, right?

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Alternate Line: Okay, We Hard Wonders fans, I hope you're ready for a 40-year-old man, ill-prepared to talk about dance music, to now…

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Alternate Line: talk about dance music one more time. So that was, Still Riding by Barry Kant Swim. This is, this is quite a big artist, really, I would say, nowadays. Barry Kant's Swim.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, absolutely, … Increasingly so, I think, yeah, absolutely.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so he's a Scottish artist, producer, and DJ from Edinburgh.

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Andrew's iPhone: Called Josh Maney.

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Andrew's iPhone: Body can't swim.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, Mary stuttered off Primarily in, kind of, like, indie groups, playing guitar, bass, and drums.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then he shifted to electronic music.

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Andrew's iPhone: And began recording music under the name Barry Cat Swim in 2019.

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Andrew's iPhone: Bam.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he identifies more… himself as more of a musician than a producer, so he's… he has got that kind of preference for crafting music using instruments.

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Andrew's iPhone: If you ever go and see the live show, it's primarily live instruments that are on, stage.

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Andrew's iPhone: His…

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Andrew's iPhone: debut, When Will We Land? was in 2023, and it was nominated for the Mercury, and it received, some Brit Award nominations as well. I must admit, I kind of dismissed them as a kind of Calvin Harris-like figure.

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Andrew's iPhone: Maybe just not quite for me, kind of thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: So I've been kind of, kind of surprised myself just how much I've really enjoyed, this new album, that came out in July, called Loner.

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Andrew's iPhone: I like the first, it was released on NinjaTune.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he said of the album, he said, if my first album was a collage of all the music that I loved and was inspired by growing up, then this album was the most authentic expression I could offer of myself and my life over the last year.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's a really kind of cool, …

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Andrew's iPhone: Mix of bangers, such as that one, and a more kind of, like, melancholic, reflective thing

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, I just think it's… as I said, I kind of surprised myself just how much I've got out of this album, and how much I've actually needed it, I would say it's just a perfect record for the summer. It's really colourful, really fun, textured.

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Andrew's iPhone: it's one of those ones that kind of feels instantly familiar and welcoming. It kind of feels a little bit like a kind of throwback to some of the kind of big dance albums that you would get in the 2000s, so, like, people like

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Andrew's iPhone: the Chemical Brothers and, like, Milo and Moby and people like that, as well as some of the more kind of recent acts, like Caribou and Bonobo and people like that, so… so yeah, so I think there's all those kind of reference points in there, and there's different tracks that kind of go in different directions, but it does have his personality.

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Andrew's iPhone: All the way through the records as well, so I think it's… I think it's cool.

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Alternate Line: pleasant song to, to listen to, and I've listened to it a good couple of times this week, and I've… I was actually… I know this is gonna sound weird, but I was actually looking forward to listening to it there, because I haven't listened to it in a day or two, so I was kind of like, oh, looking forward to that. It's high energy, it's very, very slick.

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Alternate Line: So, like, what would be an example of that? Well, Daft Punk do that quite a lot, so when they're trying to release a single, you don't get, well, Around the World was an 8-minute long single, but yeah, you get, like, Get Lucky and stuff like that. You get songs that are, like, three and a half minutes long, that are effectively just pop songs with some dance sensibilities.

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Alternate Line: that's… that's as good as I can do with it, really, to be honest, but really, really enjoyed it. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

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Andrew's iPhone: Good. Yeah, I mean, there's lots of kind of cool little sound effects and textures in there, like the kind of… there's like a kind of sword coming out of a sheaf at one point, and all these kind of different, like, clicks and things like that, so I think there's lots of those kind of details that kind of keep the track interesting and keep it moving along.

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Andrew's iPhone: I was listening to Barry Can't Swim on a podcast called Tape Notes. I don't know if I talked about it before in the podcast, but it's a really amazing podcast, and it's when they get the artists in, and they kind of dissect the tracks, and they play all the different stems and stuff like that.

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Andrew's iPhone: So he was kind of talking about how he kind of builds up his tracks, and it's a lot about kind of building in these textures and stuff like that, so I'd really recommend people checking that out. He's a really cool, really unassuming guy.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I think he's… I think he's really, really great, really great, actually. And as you say, he's kind of… he is a big artist now. I noticed that one of his tracks, which is this kind of very uplifting, gospel-inspired number called All My Friends, is being used, for the New Guinness campaign that's been used for the start of the Premier League seasons.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's like, again, it's that kind of… you know, acts like Moby, that kind of thing, it's that kind of… it's just kind of ripe for the picking, in terms of, like, soundtracking different moments and that kind of thing, but it's… I'd really recommend people checking out this record, it's one… it is…

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Andrew's iPhone: It is a really enjoyable album to put on, and as you say, it's very kind of… you kind of want to listen to it, you know, it's very, very listenable, very Moorish.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I will put a spring in your step, as well as having these kind of moments of beauty, as well as really nice kind of lush, string.

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Andrew's iPhone: string-drenched numbers in there as well, and bits that are a little bit more, kind of, as I say, reflective as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I think people should check this out if they haven't already.

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Alternate Line: What's that Scottish song? Just, when you were saying that there, it made me think of the Scottish artists.

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Alternate Line: And they had the sample, and it was, like, Duran Duran, Duran Duran, it was, like, listing lots of 80s artists.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. I think that was Mayla, was it? That was Mail.

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Alternate Line: Milo, Milo, Milo, Milo, that was the one I was looking for there when you were talking. But, like, Milo and Too Many DJs, and I guess Calvin Harris, I mean, Scotland does have a rich history of producing, like, dance artists who can go above the, sort of.

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Alternate Line: Second track, and as you said at the top of the show here, there's a bit of breadth going on here, so this is not another dance track. Sorry to disappoint everyone. But this is Lavinia Blackwall, and the track is called We All Get Lost.

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Alternate Line: Oh, God.

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Alternate Line: It's honor.

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Alternate Line: It's your choice.

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Alternate Line: Alright, that is, Lavinia Blackwall, with… I guess it would be fair to say, Baroque, 60s-inspired.

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Alternate Line: folky pop, and the track is We All Get Lost, record called, The Making. I haven't… I haven't done this for a while, Andrew.

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Alternate Line: But I'm just gonna describe the, record sleeve, of the making, which I, which I do like very much. Puts me in mind slightly of the first Black Sabbath record sleeve, for some reason. Yes.

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Alternate Line: I don't know, a scary lady standing outside on the Black Sabbath record. Not suggesting Lavinia Blackwell is in any way a scary lady, but if you take a picture of yourself next to a crumbling tower, a black forest, and a graveyard.

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Alternate Line: and then have some sort of gothic text above your name, you are gonna look a little bit spooky, and a little bit gothic. And I really like the vibe of the… of the record sleeve. I found that quite, quite an interesting part of the… of the package.

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Alternate Line: Do you want to maybe tell us a little bit about Lavinia Blackwall, and then maybe we can get into the track itself, if that's… if that suits you?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, absolutely. So Lavinia Blackwell is a classically trained soprano.

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Andrew's iPhone: most associated still with one of my favourite Scottish bands, who are Trembling Bells. So, Trembling Bells were…

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Andrew's iPhone: Formed in 2008, and made records up until…

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Andrew's iPhone: Blackpool left the band in 2018.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I think you're spot on there in terms of the kind of… the vibes that are… that her music creates and….

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Alternate Line: I think so.

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Andrew's iPhone: We're all about that.

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Andrew's iPhone: knee-deep in the kind of peaty mysteries of British folk.

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Andrew's iPhone: But also…

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Andrew's iPhone: they would incorporate drones, incorporate acid rock guitars, motoric rhythms, moments of witchy black magic, and ethereal beauty, and ancient beauty as well. So they're really kind of one of those groups that I've really kind of tapped into the landscape of

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Andrew's iPhone: of British… British folklore and that kind.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, yeah, just one of those groups that would kind of harken back to the 60s psychedelia of acts like Fairport Convention, as well as Incredible String Band, who are another

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Andrew's iPhone: legendary Scottish group. And, Trimblebells actually ended up,

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Andrew's iPhone: playing in a version of Incredible String Band, backing Mike Herron, who's the kind of main guy from that group in kind of later years. So yeah, so they're very much in that kind of lineage.

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Andrew's iPhone: And since 2018, Blackwall's been doing some, solar projects, as well as, … a collaboration…

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Andrew's iPhone: with somebody called Laura J. Martin as part of a group called Window, Window with a Y rather than an I, which was a lovely record as well, and yeah, just, like, kind of adds to that kind of weird witchiness kind of thing. But yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Really, really great artist, and …

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Andrew's iPhone: This record, The Making, I think is her strongest solo outing so far. I really, really enjoy this album.

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Andrew's iPhone: There are moments that are a little bit… are doing a… yeah, as you say, that kind of baroque pop thing. There are some that are kind of, like, straight ahead folk rock, and there's others that… that have a kind of a jauntiness to them, like a kind of 60s…

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Andrew's iPhone: like, that kind of music hall thing that, you know, the Beatles were kind of doing a little bit of on Sgt. Pepper. There's moments like that that are very kind of jaunty, almost, and a bit fun, but yeah, it's, it's just, just… it's the kind of music that really kind of appeals to me, and I think she's doing it really, really well on this album.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I think more people should… should know about her and listen to her, yeah.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, well, that's… that's what you do, Andrew. You find the things, the little nuggets that are out there. I mean, …

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Alternate Line: Lavinia Blackwell, it's not… Blackwell, sorry, it's not a massive presence on Spotify to use that as any kind of metric of anything. …

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Alternate Line: By the way, the CEO of Spotify is, like, investing in, weapons of mass destruction, I think, literally. So, you know, don't necessarily use Spotify as a measure of anything. But yeah, she's not, she's not, like, a massive artist with a massive number of plays, so I always think it's great when you…

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, they were just kind of seen as a kind of cult act, and… and that was it, but… but yeah, I would like to see her in, …

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Alternate Line: The cars, but, no, alas, it's not the cores, it's the chords. And this track is called, Fabulous, so let's give it a shot.

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Andrew's iPhone: Partly were kind of raised in an amazing music collection of their mum and dads, and then they started playing together.

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Alternate Line: Excellent. I wonder if any of the artists we're listening to tonight will be thinking about the Say Awards, in the next… in the next year, or whatever. I guess we'll… I guess we'll find out. Okay, so that brings us to… neatly on to our fourth track.

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of looking into the history of different places and using them as inspiration for his music.

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Andrew's iPhone: This latest project is called Midsummer Tideline, so that was the title track that we heard.

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Andrew's iPhone: and… And the inspiration this time around is maritime folklore.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, he's… he's interesting, I think. He's kind of… he kind of brings in a lot of, kind of, aspects of 60s and 70s pop and folk.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, creates these kind of… these stories, I guess. And there's something really kind of old-timey about the kind of feel of this track and the project as a whole. It's a voice with a story to tell and some wisdom about it.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, certainly for me, I find it quite a kind of captivating voice. It kind of puts me in mind of people like Bill Callahan, or…

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Andrew's iPhone: Tinder Sticks, Timber Tombra. He's talked about being really inspired by people like Leonard Cohen.

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Andrew's iPhone: And you get those, those kind of backing vocals, which work in the same way that Laughing Lynn's Cooing Angels used to work on his tracks, you know, you'd have, like, kind of the sweetness coming in.

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Andrew's iPhone: And the lightness, that would kind of work as a really kind of nice counterpoint to those, kind of deeper male vocals.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so I think he's kind of using that trick a lot on this album, and it works well for me. It works for me. I can imagine, maybe, if…

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Andrew's iPhone: very much goes at his own pace. It almost reminds me of, like, kind of like a horse-driven cart or something like that, the way it kind of just…

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of goes along, but… but for me, it kind of works.

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Alternate Line: And it's very, very into the mic, very clear and close, because, of course, a key part of this piece of music is the lyrics and the storytelling. Yeah. That's part of the tradition of this music. And, of course, Ian Humberston, the internet, tells me, is not just a musician, but he also has a PhD in ethnography.

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Alternate Line: And he, you know, he's been, as you said, been around, traveling around Northern Europe and Northern Scotland. So there's something…

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Alternate Line: you know, it… almost as well, to bring a sort of modern reference to it, I get a little bit of Nick Cave out of it as well. Yeah, definitely. And if Ian Humberstone ever felt like just…

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Alternate Line: increasing the drama, you know, I think, a little bit. It would be even more, even more Nick Cave, and it lets you think about what Nick Cave is inspired with as well, a little bit, this track, that's what I was kind of thinking. Yeah. He takes it, obviously, in a different direction. This is obviously more reverent to the, sort of.

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Alternate Line: So, so again, did a double take on the name of this track as well, Let's Go Out Tonight, because it made me think of our slightly calamitous ad read that we've persisted with for, you know, about 18 months at this point, you know, the, let's go away for a while, which might actually be happening right now as I say this, because obviously it's auto-added

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Alternate Line: Okay, there is every single second of, Let's Go Out Tonight, by the Colin Steel Quartet. I am, contractually bound to now

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Alternate Line: Years of years of doing this podcast has turned up the odds, the odd jazz thing every now and again, and I manfully, …

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Andrew's iPhone: Who just uses it.

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Alternate Line: So I'll… I'll get in all my buzzwords early, like, atmospheric. I'll chuck atmospheric in. I'll say trumpet, because I've heard that too.

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Alternate Line: I'll just run, I'll run as best I can. No, let's be serious. So, Colin Steele Quartet, and that is, that's from a record that is jazz interpretations of the Blue Nile

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Andrew's iPhone: Neither do I. I'm not sure, but yeah, as you say, this is, the third… they're now calling it a trilogy, I don't know if they're going to stop at this point, and maybe do something different, or they're just gonna continue in this, …

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Andrew's iPhone: Bizvain. But yeah, this is the third collection of such interpretations, following ones where they've tackled the music of the Pearl Fishers.

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Andrew's iPhone: So I'm not as familiar with the Pearl Fisher's work, but certainly Joni Mitchell has got a lot of, kind of, jazz aspects to what she does.

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Andrew's iPhone: And… There's something about…

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Andrew's iPhone: the Blue Niles music as well, the kind of elegance and sophistication of what they do. That kind of real kind of timeless quality of what they do, that I think kind of lends itself quite well to jazz as well. So I think… I don't know what it is that's inspiring this approach, but certainly if you're going to do it, picking these kind of acts…

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Andrew's iPhone: I think they're onto something. It's probably a decent time to do a Blue Nile-associated record as well, because we last played the Blue Nile as a vinyl word on the episode where we reviewed Taylor Swift.

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Andrew's iPhone: we talked about the fact that they were having a bit of a moment in the spotlight, because they were name-checked on that record, the torch reports department, by Taylor.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so yeah, so… so it seems… it's a neat fit, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: the Blue and Iowa are one of those acts that… that are loved by people, and that more people are kind of discovering over time as well. So, yeah, I think it… if they're going to do that approach, then the Blue and Iowa are…

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Andrew's iPhone: a good act to choose. They haven't necessarily chosen the obvious songs by the blue now, as well, I think… I mean, the track that we've played is one of the big tracks. Yeah. From Hats, but … but yeah, across the album, there's some more, kind of, obscure…

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Andrew's iPhone: tracks by the Blue Nile, as well as Paul Buchanan's solo work, as well. So, they've been quite selective in choosing the ones

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I do really… I really enjoy this… this track, and I thought this would be a nice way to kind of play us out today as the kind of, like, final choice. Really kind of gorgeous stuff that kind of captures that kind of late-night romance.

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Alternate Line: I don't actually know if that's massively insulting to what they do, but that's just what it puts me in mind of. Yeah. I think it's… I think it's an interesting choice, and … I hope if they listen to this podcast, they laugh as well. But this can't be a money spinner, this project, because, like.

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Alternate Line: if you're gonna do an album of covers, you know, you're already in the position of, well, the original artist has already produced these tracks, so they have to be either significantly different, or something. And I guess these jazz versions obviously are, but, like.

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Alternate Line: fans, I would say, kicking about. They're a band I've heard of, but I've not listened to a lot of their music. So, this concept of doing, like, sort of inspired by the song… I mean, do Elvis, then, you know, do the Beatles or something like that. I mean, do tracks that people are, like, super familiar with.

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Alternate Line: And I imagine very unabashedly so. So yeah, I hope that they have… I hope they have success with it, and I hope that it finds the very specific audience that they're kind of looking for. Of the three acts, I would say Joni Mitchell's probably the one

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Alternate Line: But certainly, it's a… it's a tough sell for daytime radio, I would say, perhaps, you know what I mean? But that's not what it's for, and it runs us back again to what we were saying earlier on, that, …

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Andrew's iPhone: Good. Yeah, I mean, Colin Steele, who's the kind of leader of this quartet, and there is four in the group, you'll be pleased to hear, but yeah, he started off playing music in the backing group of Hugh and Cry in the 80s, and that, I mean.

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean, their sound was never my kind of thing, like, very kind of slick, very commercialized take on soul music, but there's no denying the kind of… the accomplished nature of those records, so he's obviously an accomplished musician.

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Andrew's iPhone: And over time, he's kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: maybe gone away from that pop thing and doing things that he's more interested in. So, yeah, so he studied jazz.

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Andrew's iPhone: He's got a kind of folk…

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Andrew's iPhone: influenced act called Colin Steel Stromash.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which is a great Scottish word.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, and now he's obviously doing these records. I think if you're probably to ask him why he's doing them, presumably it's just because he loves… he loves the music that he's playing.

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Andrew's iPhone: Certainly on this album, they're able to kind of find the melodically rich

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Andrew's iPhone: simplified it in a way. I mean, I think the great thing about the Blue Nails music is it feels very, kind of, uncluttered and unfussy, even though these were records that took years to make, and they were meticulously, kind of, fought over every element of them, but something about the Blue Nails music that was very, kind of, effortless.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, exactly! And they're able to kind of find those kind of clean lines within the music really well, I think. So, yeah, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: they've managed to kind of capture the essence of the Blue Nail, but they've also managed to do it… they recorded this album in just one day, so with the Blue Nail will take years to make their music, they're just… they're trying to do that jazz approach of just kind of capturing…

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Andrew's iPhone: musicians in a room kind of thing. But yeah.

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Alternate Line: Well, what's interesting about it is that it's beautifully recorded as well. Yeah. And I think that's the thing with jazz versions of something, is because there's going to be an element of, you know.

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Alternate Line: knowing the track well, and then improvisation. If you go in the room, and there's only four of you, hence the name quartet, and you get the sound of each instrument correct.

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Alternate Line: you know, you can probably work quite swiftly, and if that's what's happened, that's great. Big shout out to, Colin Steele's, …

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Alternate Line: website, which I've clicked through, and it is a stremash all of its own. It's just… it doesn't load for me. Colin, if you're listening, your website is thoroughly broken on my computer. It's just a big grey blob and a big grey black… a big black blob underneath. It also has a quotation that says.

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Alternate Line: So, so yeah, one of those ones. So it's just, and at the top, this is probably the most charming thing about the whole website. It just says, sign up box, so you pop your email in, it says, subscribe here for very occasional email updates.

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Alternate Line: It's very, very polite, so, they're probably not selling our details off to nefarious forces, I wouldn't have thought. Okay, brilliant. So that's as done a whistle-stop tour of, well, just a big variety of Scottish music. You didn't play any of the big Scottish

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Alternate Line: Don't get me started on them, yeah, but you didn't play any of the big things. No Travis tonight, so we're probably listening to tracks that most folk are not going to be completely familiar with, and even I, hit us up with a bit of Slime City to kick the show off as well, so… so there you go, well done, excellent, playlist this week.

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Alternate Line: Right, so I guess that brings us to our final part of the show. It's an audio podcast, but I'm gonna tell you what I am looking at right now is a young fellow, Mr. Andrew Hall, in his record room.

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Alternate Line: Surrounded by… let me count them one at a time… 1, 2, 3, 4… a million records, I think. And what he does is, this final section is called The Vinyl Word, and he will literally take something out of his own music collection, which is either…

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Alternate Line: very closely synced with what I've listened to, or sometimes it's a little bit… he's holding a CD, in fact, just to really screw things up. So, yeah, either something that's very closely linked to, what we have, or it's just something that's, not so closely linked, but…

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Alternate Line: He finishes off with something from his personal collection, a personal favourite, and I'm, you know, filibustering to give him some time to get himself ready with his notes.

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Alternate Line: Just enough time to say that, listen guys, if you love this podcast, and so many of you do, so thank you for listening, the best way to support us

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Alternate Line: is to listen, is to recommend, so please keep doing that. But if you want to support the podcast financially, you know you just can. Just take yourself off to www.buymeacoffee.com slash we heard wonders, and we will put that, coffee money to good use, keeping your favourite music podcast running and running and running and running, and running, running, and running, running, and that's the only Black Eyed Peas reference you'll ever hear.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, I am.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so I was talking about Lavinia Blackwell, earlier, and just saying what a fan I was of Trembling Bells, so I thought we could play us out with something by Trembling Bells this week. So I've got their debut album here called Car Beth from 2008. As you say, I've only got it on CD, I'm afraid, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: the CD word this week?

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Andrew's iPhone: But, I've still got the Hype sticker on it.

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Andrew's iPhone: The top one is from Will Odom, so Bonnie Prince Billy.

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Andrew's iPhone: who they kind of later, collaborated with. It says, Jesus fucking shit!

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Andrew's iPhone: These… these jams claw so hard… so hard that the tatties below me thinks that the Lord misnamed them.

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Andrew's iPhone: He must have intended to say Trembling BALLS!

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Andrew's iPhone: So, so yeah, so, so, this is, this is a really cool record,

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Andrew's iPhone: It really, kind of, straight off the back, kind of introduced trembling bells and what they're good at, so it's got the, kind of, the dueling, kind of, male feel…

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Andrew's iPhone: male-female vocals, the kind of… the drones of the kind of Velvet Underground, as well as those, kind of 60s, acid folk elements that we talked about as well. And the track that I've chosen to play set with is one called When I Was Young, which I just absolutely adore.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, as we listen to this, just imagine me wailing along to the, Dylan Thomas-inspired lyric, Rage Against the Dying Light.

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Andrew's iPhone: Just absolutely love it.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's gonna place out the screen.

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Alternate Line: Here we go. Listen, I think I want to put Bonnie Prinze Billy down as one of my references on my CV.

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Alternate Line: That's gonna be the most….

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Andrew's iPhone: Right.

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Alternate Line: What reference I've ever heard in my life. That's unbelievable!

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Andrew's iPhone: It makes you want to hear the record, though, doesn't it?

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Alternate Line: Not really! It kind of just makes me, like, confused in a happy way.

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Alternate Line: Do you know what it made me think of as well? Trembling balls? It made me think of the scene from Dell Game, when they're doing charades, and he's like, movie. One word. Rhymes with balls.

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Alternate Line: Jaws. Love it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Okay, alright, here we go.

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Alternate Line: Right, we need to get more serious for Trembling Bells here, … Dylan Thomas, right, here we go. When I Was Young by Trembling Bells, who plays out this week. So I guess all that's left for us to say is, guys, we shall see you down the road.

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Andrew's iPhone: See you soon, guys.

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Andrew's iPhone: When I was young

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, but I don't sit up

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Andrew's iPhone: It's a chair!

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Andrew's iPhone: Send my future to the God, Lord.

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, let's go!

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Andrew's iPhone: each other.

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Andrew's iPhone: I had a dream

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Andrew's iPhone: Sisters, how's your turn.

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Andrew's iPhone: Sweet!

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Andrew's iPhone: 10!

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Andrew's iPhone: And she shook me away.

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Andrew's iPhone: She was writing on the scripture

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Andrew's iPhone: Little safety.

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Andrew's iPhone: Reception!

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Andrew's iPhone: Which is a dining room!

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Andrew's iPhone: When I was younger When I was young And I know it's gone.

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Alternate Line: Goodbye.