Dead-Cert or Dud-Beat?: Tame Impala, Maruja, Titanic, anaiis & Drink The Sea

Dead-cert or dud-beat? Tune into the latest @weheardwonders pod to find out where Andrew and Iain land on the big new release from Aussie psych hermit Tame Impala. We also play and review new music from Mancunian post-rock emoters Maruja, avant-rock Mexico City duo Titanic, French-Senegalese progressive-soul singer anaiis and nineties alt-rock supergroup Drink The Sea. Something sleepy and starry has The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I'd say, if I'm being honest, I prefer Depeche mode.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Really?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Why is that?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I know one is considered the greatest composer in the history of Western civilization, the other a synth pop band from the 80s, but I find their balance of technological exploration and pop books combined with

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Com… Combined with, what's wrong?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I… I can't put my love of Depechement into words, it's just,

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: What?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: feeling.

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Alternate Line: Hello, and welcome to We Heard Wonders.

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Alternate Line: music podcast is absolutely baffled by that scene in.

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Andrew's iPhone: 80s.

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Alternate Line: Same as everyone else. Hello, Andrew.

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Andrew's iPhone: I love you. Yeah, I am baffled too. I was very baffled when you sent it to me. I was convinced it was, like, AI slop.

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Andrew's iPhone: But that is actually real.

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Alternate Line: It's, no, it's pure human slop, so yeah, so, there you go. People are saying confidently that this will be the last time Jared Leto has, like, any influence in the movie business, like.

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Alternate Line: Apparently, the whole Toront 80s thing was, like, a big… his big, his big project. And that scene, in case you weren't… in case you weren't sure, is him and Jeff Bridges just doing the worst acting job you've ever…

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Alternate Line: Probably never seen. So, so there you go. So, how you doing, man? You alright?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, I am well, I am well, yep.

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Alternate Line: What?

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Andrew's iPhone: After the October break?

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Alternate Line: the October break, you had a wee, a week away, down at the, Inspirational

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Alternate Line: Bits of England, Lake District.

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Alternate Line: How was it?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it was nice, yeah, I was, it was…

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Andrew's iPhone: pretty busy, pretty hectic. We were away with my family, and there was 17 of us all together.

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Andrew's iPhone: So 11 adults and 6 kids.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, 4 of those kids were in our lodge.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it was a pretty hectic, pretty hyper lodge, but it was… it was… it was good fun as well.

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Alternate Line: Good friend, there you go.

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Andrew's iPhone: Did a bit of, wild water swimming, did a little bit of paddle boarding, a little bit of,

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Andrew's iPhone: Just, walking around.

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Alternate Line: That's true.

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Andrew's iPhone: Who's good, who's good?

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Alternate Line: That sounds class. I mean, the water stuff doesn't sound good to me at all. I hate everything like that. I hate cold water of any kind. So, fair play to you for, for actually doing that. But it's not for me. It's not for me.

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Alternate Line: I had a pretty chill week last week, didn't do a huge amount. We took a break, obviously, because it was the holidays, because you were away. I didn't do a huge amount, but I did, and I'm just going to move to my right.

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Alternate Line: And point… I know this is odd.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah!

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Alternate Line: No one can do this, but right here.

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Alternate Line: is my record player, my, my turntable, my amplifier, and my speakers, which are all now set up and working bloody lovely. Working lovely.

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Andrew's iPhone: a new setup.

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Alternate Line: It is, yeah, it is. It's been far too long in the… in the making. It's gonna be really dull, but I'm just gonna say it anyway, but when we moved into this house, which was in… at the end of 2019,

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Alternate Line: the plan was always to have, like, a lovely audio setup in the living room. In fact, we're not gonna have a television, in the living room, just gonna have an audio setup, have a TV in another room upstairs. And then, a favourite uncle of Zoe's came over to the house and just sat in the sofa and just went, what you want is a big, massive telly right there.

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Alternate Line: And he was very right. But then, you know, events, and never really got round to it, and you know, I've been listening to music through…

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Alternate Line: AirPods and Alexas, and Wii speakers, and all that sort of stuff, and in the car, and that's been my main… my main, sort of, ways of listening to… to tunes, but it's unbelievable, the difference when you actually put together a proper… proper hi-fi setup. It's… it's…

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Alternate Line: It's amazing, really.

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Andrew's iPhone: One of us, one of us.

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Alternate Line: No, no, no, no, no, no. I can still comfortably say vinyls, and I'm alright, I think I'll be happy.

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Andrew's iPhone: I'll still be okay, so…

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Alternate Line: so we had set up, and myself, and my daughter, and my son just sat basically where I am right now, like, an inch away from it, and we started putting on, some records. And then we connected up the phone, and we were listening to some… some things just through the… through the phone.

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Alternate Line: And, my daughter's a massive Radiohead fan.

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Alternate Line: And we listened to Weird Fishies, which is probably her favourite Radiohead song from In Rainbows. And,

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Alternate Line: I was just thinking to myself as I was listening to it, I don't think I've ever heard it sound as good as this, do you know what I mean? It was, like, it was the best version of Weird Fishes I've ever heard, with the good speakers and all that sort of stuff. And she turned to me and she said, that was like listening to the song for the first time.

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Alternate Line: And we had a lovely little, a wee emotional moment listening to it. It was amazing, so there you go.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I kind of regularly have moments like that, when I'm playing my records, and I just… yeah, it's like hearing the song for the first time. Yeah, when you've got a good setup, and you…

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Andrew's iPhone: And you're… you're kind of… the focus is the music, like, it can happen.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's, it's great.

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Andrew's iPhone: Have you got any other things that you've kind of listened to over the last few days? I know your dad's given you some stuff as well.

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Alternate Line: Oh yeah, my dad brought some records over from his, ancient collection. That was all stuff, like, like, jazzy things and records from the 70s, and so I'm gonna have to look at the pictures I sent you, because I…

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Alternate Line: could not possibly remember what those are off the top of my head. But there's one particularly good one, it was this one, The Soprano Summit, and it's just a straightforward jazz record, but the, the reproduction and the quality of the recording, like.

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Alternate Line: But that, that jazziness he had was phenomenal, like, you could hear the…

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Alternate Line: very top of the trebliness of the clarinet, and all the way down to the… to the bassiness of the… of the double bass, so it was… it was really, really good. And as for myself, I told you, and I meant it, I'm gonna grab it right now. I'm gonna do a vinyl word. Here it is, vinyl word, first, is the 2018 reissue.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh.

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Alternate Line: Animals by Pink Floyd, so it was the first… it was the first record that I…

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Andrew's iPhone: Fantastic. So there we go.

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Alternate Line: So, that's… that's us nerds, nerding out, nerding out. I'm… I'm gonna stop one… one step before we start naming bits of kit, because I don't think that's… I don't think that's actually cool.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, but unsavory.

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Alternate Line: But if anyone is interested, you can send us a message, and I'm sure Andrew will share his kit as well, so to speak. So yeah, but anyway, that's not what we're here for. We're here for something else. Why don't you tell us what we're here for?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, we are here to listen to and review some new music from Tame Impala.

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Andrew's iPhone: Marooja, Titanic, Anand… anise?

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Andrew's iPhone: And, drink the sea.

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Alternate Line: steaming new tracks, and unlike last time, these are new. These are… these are pretty, pretty current, I would say. So the big, the big music press was kind of dropping the Tame Impala reviews in the last couple of days, really, so… it's pretty hot off the press stuff.

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Alternate Line: So, so yeah, well, we haven't introduced ourselves, and it's been a couple of weeks, so I think we should probably do that before we just get ripped into this first… first track after you, sir.

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Andrew's iPhone: My name is Andrew, I buy records and write about them on Instagram, at KidAGH86.

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Alternate Line: Hey, my name's Ian, and I'm a guitarist in Glasgow band The Deadline Shakes, and you can get us on all your Instagrams and all that, at Deadline Shakes.

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Alternate Line: Cool, right, so without further ado, let's get stuck in to our first, new track of the week. So this is, as I've said a few times already, it's, Tame Impala. The track is called My Old Ways, and it's from the new record, Deadbeat.

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Alternate Line: Just before we listen to it, though, like, obviously there's some quite, like,

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Alternate Line: you know, what's the word I'm looking for here? Inner-looking lyrics here, you know, and it's a sort of, a track thinking about him and fatherhood, and how he lives his life.

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Alternate Line: And the record's called Deadbeat, and has literally a photograph of him and one of his kids on the front. It's quite a bold choice, isn't it, as a piece of album art? Did that… did you have any thoughts in that direction, or…

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Andrew's iPhone: No, yeah, totally, yeah, that was definitely something that kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: But it's definitely a choice, you know, it's definitely a choice. And when you compare it to other artwork that Tim and Paul have done in the past, it's very different as well, like, they've always kind of gone for that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Very, kind of, froggy side.

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of, like, multicolored… A lot of, yeah, very kind of,

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Andrew's iPhone: very stylized, kind of harkened back to a lot of those kind of, like, 60s and 70s psych and prog records. So yeah, so it was a very kind of… it's a deliberate choice to have a picture of himself with his… with his kid.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. I've seen him talk about the fact that he's kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: he chose the title Deadbeat, and there's a track on the album called Loser as well, and he's talked about trying to almost, kind of, like, reclaim those words.

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Andrew's iPhone: And kind of take back the power of, like, maybe people, like, dismissing him in the past as, like, a deadbeat in his life, and that kind of thing. So he's trying to kind of, like… yeah, he's trying to kind of free himself from that, if you like, and take ownership of that word.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's kind of the idea, I think, behind it. And there's maybe a kind of irony to it, you know, he's kind of deadbeat, but here he is, happy with his kid.

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, kind of living his best life, kind of thing, I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's the kind of idea, but I don't think it's necessarily come across to everyone as that.

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Alternate Line: No, it hasn't come across to me as that, actually, and I think when we get into the track as well, I think similar themes will… will emerge when we start talking about the track. From that point of view, I think the artwork and the music itself is actually well matched. But yeah, I don't want to review this before we review it. Right, let's see here we go. So this is, My Old Ways by Tame Impala.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So here I am.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I must be out of excuses when I won't bowl Just like a king.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: That's true.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So far more.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I'll sit down

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I'll never end. I'm sliding.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Powerless as I deserve.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Back into my old ways.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: again.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Welcome to my old ways again.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Not just this fall.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Little present for holding outside.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I thought of it two days ago

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I can't…

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Back into my old ways.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Come to my land.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: The Spanish.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: We discovered here.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I've been barely going on

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't do it!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: S-S-O.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Back into my life.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: waves again.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Into my old ways again.

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Alternate Line: Okay, so there we have My Old Ways by,

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Alternate Line: Quite a lot of the songs you've selected this week have given me, like, clashing thoughts.

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Alternate Line: difficult thoughts, which I'm gonna have to try and, which I'm gonna have to try and unpick. Which means they're a good selection, of course, give us something to talk about, but,

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Alternate Line: Listen to it a lot, not sure what I think about it.

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Alternate Line: We'll see you.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I would agree. I've got conflicting thoughts. I mean, I was a huge fan of the first two Taming Pala records, so Inner Speaker and Lonerism, when they came out in the early 2010s, as a kind of fan of psychedelic music, to have these

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Andrew's iPhone: New records that… that sounded like old ones, but were also incorporating, kind of, modern.

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Andrew's iPhone: techniques, they were just… they were just total catnip for me, and I do think they are kind of neo-psych rock classics, both of them. I also love Currents, which was a 2015 record, which was where Kevin Parker abandoned his guitar for the most part, and went in a more kind of electronic direction.

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Andrew's iPhone: This kind of immaculate… But also often disorientating up.

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Andrew's iPhone: sync pop, that just totally kind of blew the project open, really, and kind of brought in a whole new audience for the group, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of appealed to a lot of different fans of different types of music as well, so you had, like, the kind of, you know, psych fans, but also pop, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: hip-hop fans even kind of got on board, and then off the back of that, Kevin Parker managed to get a lot of production work, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, so he's kind of been on that interesting… he's always kind of presented himself as this kind of hermetic perfectionist, who kind of stresses over every aspect of his music.

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Andrew's iPhone: Often to the point of driving themselves delirious, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's been 5 years since the last album, The Slow Rush, which was itself 5 years after Currents.

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Andrew's iPhone: And the slow rush was kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: It was released in February 2020, and it was kind of… I think the plan was for it to kind of flower and to go on to soundtrack that summer and, you know, kind of be the soundtrack for these triumphant headline sets. But all of that was kind of kiboshed by the pandemic.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, although they managed to eventually tour that album, it kind of… it was kind of the start of kind of, like, a strange few years for Kevin Parker, where he was kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, he seemed like he was a little bit kind of aimless, or he's just kind of doing bits here and there, so he did a few kind of high-profile soundtracks. He helmed production for the likes of Dua Lipa, so her last album, Radical Optimism, he did a co-production on that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, yeah, people… it was kind of met with a bit of a shrug, that record. And the last time that we spoke about them on the podcast was a collaboration that they did with Diana Ross for the Minions movie. Oh, yeah. The Rise of Gru. So, yeah, it's been a kind of strange kind of five years, and

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Andrew's iPhone: When it came time for Parker to start doing his own music again, he started off by wanting this to be…

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Andrew's iPhone: a techno record, he wasn't sure if it was going to be necessarily under the band name, he just wanted to kind of experiment with that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then he found himself, over time, wanting to place chords over the top of these, these beats that he was making.

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Andrew's iPhone: That, that kind of felt a bit more in the kind of classic taming parlor fashion.

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Andrew's iPhone: He's talked about this album being inspired by what the Aussies call bush doofs.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which are these outdoor raves in Australia, where you can blare trance music without worrying about complaints from the neighbours. So that, yeah, it's kind of in the middle of nowhere.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, so he's obviously, along with the kind of artwork that we've already talked about, he's clearly wanting to try and push the project forward and try something different here.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I'm just… I'm just not convinced that it's successful at all. Unfortunately, I think this is actually one of the few tracks where I think his kind of aims do kind of… kind of work, or kind of meets his aims, if you like.

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Andrew's iPhone: So he's obviously…

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Andrew's iPhone: This track actually started off as a voice note on his iPhone, and he's kind of used that demo that he had.

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Andrew's iPhone: And… and then he's, he's kind of like… so the, kind of, the idea… he talked about… the press release talks about wanting to recast Tame of Power as a kind of future primitive rave act.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's that kind of idea that it's got these dance elements, but it's also got a kind of more raw, confessional, in-the-moment kind of feel to some of the songwriting as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I think this track kind of has that, to a degree. I think that just the problem is…

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Andrew's iPhone: almost trying to find his way as he's making this song and this album, I think. He's obviously kind of experimenting with the electronic elements, but he's not as…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's exciting for him, but it… you know, when you compare it to other acts that are doing similar things in electronic music and dance pop, it doesn't…

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Andrew's iPhone: It just doesn't have that sophistication to it.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I've liked lots of the records, I've just not been a super fan or anything like that, I've just been sort of aware that they're there, that they're about. I actually quite enjoyed the slow rush. I thought it was quite a good record. The track Lost in Yesterday, which I believe was the lead single, I thought it was really good, listened to that quite a lot. And I liked the kind of yacht rock influence that kind of came on that record. I thought that was sort of interesting, and fairly logical way to go.

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Alternate Line: And I'll start with the positives for this track, so…

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Alternate Line: I think the transition from the demo-y part, which I'll come back to, into the sort of slick dancey part, is really exciting. Like, when the dancey part opens up, that's really good. It's instantly hummable, this song. I put it on in the car earlier on, and

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Alternate Line: Just as we were driving, and within about 45 seconds, my wife was humming the… humming the track, so it's, like, got that instant, kind of, earworm-y quality.

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Alternate Line: I think, to point to a particular moment of the track is the organ solo, about 3 quarters of the way through it, which is just the most aimless thing that just feels like there was a, you know, there's, oh, there's a 20-second gap here, let's put something in it, and it's literally just a noodled organ solo.

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Alternate Line: And it's not the only incongruous element there, because of course the sort of piano demo

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Alternate Line: as you said, I think it was an iPhone voice note, or whatever it was at the start. One, sounds shit. Like, it doesn't sound good. Like, it literally sounds bad in your headphones, or wherever you listen to it. It sounds scratchy. My first couple of listens, I was like.

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Alternate Line: Have I plugged my headphones in properly? Have I got this? Is this supposed to sound like this? Then I remember, oh, it's to be sort of demo-y bit. And then when the slick part comes on, which is a good transition out of that, it really makes you realize, like, what is that there for? And the performance on the demo part as well.

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Alternate Line: I don't know if this is just the musician in me, but he kind of, like, reveals his hand a little bit, because that is actually all the rest of the track does. It's really just that sort of repetitive chord, two chords sort of thing, backwards and forwards.

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Alternate Line: And just to come round again to the… to the, to the artwork.

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Alternate Line: in the photograph. I've said often on here, it's even a thing that my own band have tried to do, where you try and do incongruous, like, mishmatch of music and lyrics, because that can be quite an interesting,

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Alternate Line: I just don't want to hear how shit it all is, I just don't, do you know what I mean? Like, this guy's really, really successful, he's got Grammys, he's, like, you know, all that sort of stuff, and here he is taking a picture of his own child and writing Deadbeat under it. I just think that's really, really just, like… I actually think it's in quite poor taste, if nothing.

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Alternate Line: And if he genuinely thinks he's a deadbeat,

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Alternate Line: But for me, this is probably the first time I've ever experienced Tame Impala and gone, I instantly don't like this. I really like his voice, I always have. The disco part of the track is quite toe-tapping, it's catchy, all that sort of stuff.

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Alternate Line: For whatever reason.

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Alternate Line: So yeah, so that's my thoughts.

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Andrew's iPhone: as far as I could see, pretty much universal derision, and just concern from a lot of the kind of fan base, especially the people that were there at the very start. My kind of automatic reaction was wanting to try and push back against that a little bit, and say, I'll give it a chance, and wait till you hear the whole thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I do think some of the initial singles sound a little bit better within the…

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Andrew's iPhone: You know, kind of… kind of full, full focus of the album, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: Overall, there's just far too many moments that do feel dashed off, Half-arsed, unfinished.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he's just not playing to his strengths in this record. He's trying something different, but the techno trance elements are just so underdeveloped.

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Andrew's iPhone: And they talk about primitive, but there's a difference between something sounding excitingly primitive and raw and vital, and just something that's just plain basic and lackluster and boring, and too often in this album.

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Andrew's iPhone: It just kind of falls into that for me. So yeah, it is really, really disappointing, and it may prove to be, like, a transitional thing for him.

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Andrew's iPhone: Or maybe he might decide that his strengths lie elsewhere, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I mean, he's always been kind of quite…

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Andrew's iPhone: There's just something a little bit sad about the whole project.

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Alternate Line: I think you've summed it up. I think you've summed it up. Ironically, I was reading, an article about… there's a reissue of the, Bruce Springsteen album, Nebraska.

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Alternate Line: And I actually don't even know where I was reading this article, I'll tell you, earlier on today. And it was talking about this concept of demoism, which producers and bands and artists,

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Alternate Line: you just… you jot it down very quickly, and you just go, that's… that's the idea, that's it. And then there's the sort of difficulty of getting it from that, like, exciting demo

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Alternate Line: to then everyone learn the song, you know, produce it, sing it perfectly. Sometimes you lose the energy. I think a great example of that is, you know, the, the anthology version of the Beatles song, Across the Universe?

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Alternate Line: Versus the actual released version on later.

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Alternate Line: Which is… which is pretty horrible to listen to, generally speaking.

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Alternate Line: So, yeah, so that… I was kind of thinking that, like, what Kevin Parker has done here is he's literally taken an iPhone voice note that, like, legitimately does not sound good. Like, it just… it sounds bad. And he's going, yeah, let me just…

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Alternate Line: crack 30 seconds of that on the start of this otherwise incredibly slick, track. It's such a strange decision, I can't… I just can't wrap.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. I think he's kind of… maybe kind of going for that kind of Wizard of Oz thing, that kind of, you know, black and white to technicolor.

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Andrew's iPhone: like, low res to high fidelity kind of thing. I think that's kind of what he's going for.

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Alternate Line: Someone should have just gone, Kev, that sounds shit, like, stop, stop that, that doesn't sound good. Like, re-record the demo, like, in the studio with, like, you know, a nice electric piano, and like, let's, you know, just bring it up a notch, because see when it's properly recorded and produced vocal comes in.

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Alternate Line: a completely different thing, like, up several notches of quality. So, I'm all for, trying something new and experimenting and all that, but I just… I don't know, this just leaves me really cold.

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Alternate Line: In a way I wasn't expecting. I saw the playlist come in from you, and I went, Team Impala, good. This'll be… this'll be a nice, solid, like…

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Alternate Line: Andrew and I will just say all the nice things about Tame Impala, and that'll be that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Sure.

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Alternate Line: Well, honestly, on the basis of this, I probably won't listen to the record, and so the single's done its job, in a way, I suppose. Okay, so…

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Alternate Line: That's Team Impala. Sorry, Team Impala fans, if you're listening, I do apologize. But it's just the way it is. It's the way it is this time.

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Alternate Line: Okay, so next track, something, a good bit different, bit more British, a bit more, Mancunian this time. So this track is by Maruja.

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Alternate Line: And the song is called Saoirse.

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Alternate Line: Alright, so here we go.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Welcome!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Fiority is my enemy.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: As the makers do not know

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Amico's beautiful.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Why am I evil?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Never!

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Alternate Line: Wow. So there is, Saoirse by Maruja.

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Alternate Line: And the record is called, I've just lost sight of it, Bring It Back to Me, Pain to Power.

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Alternate Line: Wow. So, as I was saying before we listened to Tame and Pilot, like, I feel like this is an evening of music that's just, like, clashing ideas and things, like, being kind of thrown together. I don't know if that was deliberate or no.

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Andrew's iPhone: Say, yeah.

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Alternate Line: Some of the week, but yeah, yeah, is it? Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I would say so, yeah, absolutely.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. So, this is, like, just to me, just a… just unbelievably diverse song.

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Alternate Line: Because it's got… it's definitely got, like, a jazzy element to it, and a sort of, you know, scrunky, improvised, feeling.

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Andrew's iPhone: Absolutely.

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Alternate Line: And then it's got, like, an absolutely stunning vocal performance, which I think is really the heart of the song.

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Alternate Line: And then it's got a political element as well, which I'm sure we'll get to. So, it's quite a… I don't know, the word is here, like, a chaotic song? Like, it's very diverse, very, like,

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Alternate Line: all over the musical map, I think would be a good way of putting it.

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Alternate Line: So, yeah, never heard of Marugia in my life before, apart from doing a bit of Googling, so they're from Manchester, I believe?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep, that's right, so they're an English rock band formed in Manchester in 2014.

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Andrew's iPhone: They had a series of EPs, pretty soon after forming, but they've gained more attention following,

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Andrew's iPhone: a change in personnel, so they've had a couple of VPs in the last couple of years that have gained, real acclaim.

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Andrew's iPhone: And they released their debut album, as you say, Pain to Power, in September of this year.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's been a real hit as well with the critics and, the public as well, so it reached number 11 in the vinyl charts and 13 in the physical album charts. Yeah. So yeah, so it's connecting with people.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's a real intense racket that they create, as you kind of alluded to there. I mean, this is them in ballad mode.

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Andrew's iPhone: Compared to the rest of the album. This is the big ballad.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, there's many moments where they're kind of full-on pumbling, skronking, as you say, jazz rock with blaring saxophone. I think of the saxophone, you know, those kind of water hoses that kind of spiral out of control when there's too much pressure? That kind of, like…

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Andrew's iPhone: That's what it makes me… the saxophone shine makes me think of that across the album.

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Andrew's iPhone: And on this track as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So there's, like, 3 of the 8 tracks hit the 10-minute mark, so that… in that kind of classic, kind of, post-rock…

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Andrew's iPhone: The fashion, they're kind of reaching for the epic all the time, and even on this quieter track, the saxophone just can't help himself, and kind of bringing that kind of emotional fervor to the piece.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so it's a real kind of, as I was saying, a kind of intense sound that they go for.

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Andrew's iPhone: Lyrically, they're very, kind of, on the nose, I would say. So, across the album, there's songs with it.

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Andrew's iPhone: there's ones, I'm an addict addicted to our bad habits. Politicians, snaky. When it's money over minds, there will never be a truce. So, as you say, they're kind of, like, quite political, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: in a very kind of, as I say, kind of on-the-nose kind of thing. Across the album, it's kind of… these lines are delivered by the lead singer, Harry Wilkinson, in a kind of vocal style that's not dissimilar to something that Zach de la Rocker would do. Yeah. In a kind of rap metal sloganeering, almost, or like Fred Durst, even.

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Andrew's iPhone: he's properly singing, he's almost kind of croonering in this album, on this song, and I think it really works. It almost kind of reminds me a little bit of, like, Damian Rice or somebody like that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which is not, like, a name that I hear as a reference point, or I would use as a reference point very often, but just something about the, kind of, the vocal and the general emotional temperature of this track, kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, but but yeah, I mean, there's something about the lyrics elsewhere in the album that… that could kind of lead you to be kind of, like, rolling your eyes a little bit. So, like, even, like, the title, it's, like, turned pain to power, put faith in love.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's one where it's, so why so much division? Has the joy left all our heads? Maybe it's the fear of having no one in our beds?

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's like, what? Think about it, yeah?

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Andrew's iPhone: Just a little bit of that, which kind of puts me off the album as a whole. I'm not… I'm not connecting with the album, but this track, I heard kind of blind on the radio, and it just kind of instantly had an impact on me, like, an emotional impact, like, I find it really kind of moving.

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Alternate Line: Oh, this one's super moving, yeah, absolutely.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just the kind of plain-spoken nature of the lyrics on this track,

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, kind of really worked for me, conveying that message of the need for solidarity and unity, and especially at this time when there's, like, so much division and conflict, both here and abroad, I think, you know, that line, you know, it's our differences that make us beautiful. I just find it, like, deeply affecting… I found it deeply affecting on the first lesson, and I continue to, like…

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Andrew's iPhone: 25 listens in, I just think it just works.

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Andrew's iPhone: So I'm really… I'm really fond of this track, and it does have that kind of… it's kind of interesting structure as well, that kind of post-rock structure, it's that kind of extended intro with the sacks and the strings. It's, like, 2 minutes in before you actually get the vocal.

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Andrew's iPhone: But I think that works, and then it's got that kind of cathartic payoff at the end, at its climax. So, yeah, I just think this is a really wonderful track on an album that doesn't quite do it for me, but… but yeah, I think if you're kind of… if you're kind of taken with this track, I think you should, like, try and…

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Alternate Line: Yeah. And we're an absolutely apolitical podcast, never talk about politics on here, because why would you, basically, you know what I mean? But, yeah, so the lyrics here, you know, are dedicated to Saoirse, the title of the song, as well as being an Irish name, also means freedom.

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Alternate Line: And, they've said, like, this is an anthem of solidarity and peace, and they've dedicated it to people of Palestine. And here's a quote. Saoirse has a song for peace, an outpouring of grief, and a refusal to be numb to what we are seeing, genocide, man-made famine, and attempted erasure of a people.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I think when you, when you write a song that is so, or write a record or whatever, or just have a very, very strongly held and obvious political view, and you are in the entertainment business, which ultimately these guys are.

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Alternate Line: You sometimes put yourself in a kind of an awkward… an awkward kind of position, either by, you know, later, history says you were on the wrong side, sometimes, maybe not with these guys, don't know, but history can say you're on the wrong side, or, you know, you can just end up being more famous for having

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Alternate Line: And I wonder… I do wonder if that's gonna be the case, where, like, it's… it's just so… I think you used the phrase, on the nose, earlier on, if it's just… if it's just gonna be too…

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Andrew's iPhone: Hmm.

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Alternate Line: almost… it's like a shortcut to, like, an emotional reaction in the listener, I think. And then you take that crescendo, and then you say things over the top, like, it's our differences that make us beautiful, and it's quite a heady… quite a heady.

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Alternate Line: Isn't it? So yeah, so I think it's a great track, I really, really do, and I've actually sent it to a few folk this week and said, here, drink of this, what do you make of this? And the…

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Alternate Line: the reviews that have come back from my pals are, wow, that's really, like, moving and powerful, and what's it all about, and all that sort of stuff, so… so yeah, it's a review. I think your overall record review is not so glowing, but I think we're both, glowing on the track itself.

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Andrew's iPhone: Absolutely, yep.

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Alternate Line: And just, I know we… I say every week, well, I shouldn't do this, and then I kind of do it anyway, but, like, having these two tracks back-to-back, the Tape Impala and the Marooza track back-to-back, this one just feels so…

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Andrew's iPhone: No, I completely agree, completely agree. And yeah, I mean, I've had this track…

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Andrew's iPhone: for a few months, I knew that I'd bring it in at some point, because yeah, I think it is just a, as you say, a remarkable…

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Andrew's iPhone: piece of music, I think. But yeah, the rest of the album, in terms of what they're doing musically, and as I say, with the vocals, doesn't quite do it for me, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, this track is absolutely wonderful.

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Alternate Line: It's wonderful, there we go. Lovely stuff. Okay, well, I hope you all guys enjoyed listening to that as much as, as much we did.

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Alternate Line: And… let me just check my notes, because I'm going to screw this up, I'm pretty sure. No, the next track is by Titanic, and it's called Gotera. Let me not get that the wrong way around. Don't want to sink the ship, baum tish. Okay, so… here we go. Now, this song, as a bit of a pre-warning, has some…

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Alternate Line: And I'm going to use the phrase machine gun drums, because there's nothing else to say about these drums other than machine gun drums. And I bet in your notes that you're looking at right now, you've got somewhere in there the words machine gun drums. You do, don't you?

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Alternate Line: So, they probably failed that one under the easy listening category at HMV.

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Alternate Line: So, yeah, machine gun lyrics, and then a whole lot of other weird stuff is how I would probably go ahead and describe this one. Make some sense of this, for us, please, Andrew, what the hell? What is that all about?

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, you may have remembered from a couple of weeks ago, Ian, that I mentioned that I was very fond of a Guatemalan avant-pop chillist, called Mab Frati.

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Andrew's iPhone: And this is her. This is her and her, her other half.

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Andrew's iPhone: Who record under the name Titanic.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so maybe Friday as…

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of quite quickly become one of, like, the… the kind of the most

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Andrew's iPhone: talked about names and experimental music, so she makes fantastic records under her own name. Her album from last year.

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Andrew's iPhone: was excellent. I apologize, there's gonna be lots of me, kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: screwing up pronunciation in this segment. Great, that's, that's…

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Andrew's iPhone: I know, I know people tune in for that.

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Andrew's iPhone: I've got Centier K. No Sabez was the album from last year, which was excellent, and it made my end-of-year rundown.

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Andrew's iPhone: And has only continued to grow in my estimation since then.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, she's been, like, collaborating with lots of other people, like F2 Clang, she's got an improv quartet called Amor Murre.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, as I say, this is, the one that she does with her partner and guitarist, Hector Tosta.

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Andrew's iPhone: who goes under the name Ayala Catholica.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, and this is the second album that they've done under the name Titanic.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, I just… I just love what she does, and what she brings to, to her music, and,

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Andrew's iPhone: what she's doing with this project as well. It's just a real kind of interesting mix of the kind of avant-garde and the accessible. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And the experimental.

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Alternate Line: That's a very good euphemism. It's a mixture of the avant-garde and the accessible, I would say so. So there's, like, a couple of melodies and harmonies there, and then there's just a whole bunch of other, like…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I mean, I just… I just love it. I just… I just think it's delicious. I don't… maybe it's just that kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: Fingers are kind of, you know, I've been listening to rock music for…

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Andrew's iPhone: At this point, you know, you're just looking for something a bit novel and different, but.

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Alternate Line: You're like the guy who's like, listen, I've eaten steak, I've eaten lobster, you know, I've had chicken, just let me lick, you know, the underside of a carpet or something for a long minute.

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Andrew's iPhone: But no, I think there's just something very, kind of, exciting and delicious about the way that they kind of,

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Andrew's iPhone: throw elements together here. Very bold, bordering on the operatic at times across the album.

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm very Prague as well, and again, increasingly, I'm just kind of drawn to things that are like that, just…

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I just really enjoy the kind of unexpected nature of this, in terms of the way the arrangements are done, the instrumental configurations that they do.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, I do think there's… there's bits to kind of latch onto, whether it be, as you say, that kind of machine gun drumming. I'd seen one review talk about them being metal blast beats, which was not a phrase that I'd seen before, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: Apparently, that is a thing, and… it's a kind of known…

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Andrew's iPhone: Drumming technique within metal music? Is it blast beats.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I guess that's kind of what they're doing here.

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Andrew's iPhone: It reminds me a little bit of,

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Andrew's iPhone: There's an album that I love by a band called These New Puritans called Hidden.

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Andrew's iPhone: Where it had the very distinctive percussive sound to it. It's a real favourite of mine, so it kind of reminds me of that a little bit.

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Alternate Line: You know the, the Bon Iver song, Perth? It's the first track on Bon Iver, Bon Iver, the stuff. It's also got the…

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Alternate Line: Yep. So, it's, I mean, it's a classic military-style, snare riff, really, isn't it?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, here.

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Alternate Line: I wish, I wish Thomas, the drummer from Deadline Shakespeare, because he'd tell me it's like a paradiddle, or something like that, I don't know. But, yeah, so it's, it's, it's… do you know what it is? That music, to me, that we just listened to there,

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Alternate Line: by a chick's notes, Titanic. I keep wanting to say Gotera as the name of the artist, I'm just double-check I don't get it wrong. It's almost like, to use my food metaphor again,

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Alternate Line: It's kinda like, you know, when you go to a fancy restaurant and you get, like, a deconstructed, like, apple crumble or something?

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Alternate Line: But you've got, like, a little bit of crumble over here, and, like, a whole apple over here, and, you know, a little bit of custard just thrown at your face or something. It's a little bit like that, where you've got, like, the machine gun, TM drumming pattern.

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Alternate Line: And then you've got, like, the vocals, which almost could be in a different song. Like, it could just be a completely different…

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Alternate Line: And then this crazy, like, I think it's cello, but it sounds like electric guitar stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: just, like, just flying all over the place. So it's, it's really interesting. It's, it's, it is definitely, definitely in the category of experimental music, I would say.

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Alternate Line: And, yeah, for me, I think, like, I know you said this is, like, right up your… right up your alley, and you want to hear something different, something new. For me, though, I'm just, like.

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Alternate Line: That's… I appreciate it for what it is, and it intellectually stimulates me, but that's loads for me, thank you.

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Andrew's iPhone: I made Apple Chromebook.

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Alternate Line: Just to give me apple crumble. We won our apple crumble back.

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Andrew's iPhone: Slop it on.

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Alternate Line: We wanna… we want Sean Dyche, and we want an apple crumble, please.

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Alternate Line: Very good. Right, so, yeah, so that is, Goterra by, Titanic. If nothing else, a very, very thought-provoking track, so thanks for… thanks for suggesting that. And now…

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Alternate Line: I don't… I normally say… I normally, you know, reserve this phrase for the weirdo tracks, but now for something completely different, and it's not a big weirdo track, it's something actually thrillingly normal, and.

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Andrew's iPhone: this week's.

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Alternate Line: this week's, kind of very, very diverse playlist. This may be a little soothing calm that you've been looking for. So this is, I think I'm just gonna say Anay? How did you pronounce that earlier on?

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Andrew's iPhone: Anais.

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Alternate Line: An ice? Is that… are you seeing that with confidence?

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Andrew's iPhone: I am.

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Andrew's iPhone: I heard her, introduce herself, so, yeah. Oh. Hi, nice.

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Alternate Line: You'd figure that she'd know how to pronounce it. Okay, so Anais, very good. So, Anais, and the track is called My World Beyond. Here we go.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Yes, there's a It's the ways that you change every single day.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, yeah. Lovely stuff. Lovely stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: It'll never catch on.

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Alternate Line: I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I think it might… mate?

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Alternate Line: One slight wrinkle here, which is this is not a love song in the traditional romantic love song sense. This is a love song for motherhood, for a baby.

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Alternate Line: And, you know, you can hear the drummer, like, restraining themselves, so as they click, as they do the rim shot on the snare every time, it's like just a gentle, refined click, don't wake the baby up with the click. And then, you know, the sort of…

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Alternate Line: It's, it's just, it's one of those ones where…

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Alternate Line: You've given us a great juxtaposition of tracks here, because you've got, you know, the sort of deconstructed apple crumble on the previous one, and here you've just got something that's like, you know, a really nice chocolate mousse or something, like, it's just really…

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Andrew's iPhone: No, you're welcome. Yeah, I mean, across the album, there's kind of strong elements of, like, progressive R&B and future soul, and the album's sound and presentation.

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Andrew's iPhone: But this trick, as you say, is very classic in feel, I would say. There's kind of touches of, like, 70s Philly Soul in there.

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Andrew's iPhone: A lot of, kind of, 90s neo-soul as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, recently.

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Andrew's iPhone: Anice appeared at Shaka Khan's Meltdown Festival, and she performed a reimagining of Lauryn Hill's To Zion, which is, like, one of the ultimate songs about…

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Andrew's iPhone: New motherhood and transformation. And, this album…

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Andrew's iPhone: Finds her, kind of, preoccupied with those themes as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, I just… I just really love… love the track, here. It's just relatively straightforward, as you say, in terms of the arrangement.

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Andrew's iPhone: Beautifully, but beautifully produced and performed. The vocals are so warm and affectionate, and the lyrics… they're just lovely. They're just not, not, not, not cloying in any way.

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Andrew's iPhone: Just capture that experience of becoming a new parent in a beautiful, heartfelt, and genuine way.

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Andrew's iPhone: So he said, I see the world in new colors, so clear like night and day. First time I heard you cry, I knew you took my breath away.

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Andrew's iPhone: Let it go.

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Alternate Line: as well, that lyric is potentially, that last one you just read there, you took my breath away, it's potentially cringe, actually, right? But it just isn't, it just…

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Andrew's iPhone: No.

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Alternate Line: it's in the performance, it's in the realism of it, where it isn't. And it's funny how that makes me think of, Marooja as well, like, the key lyric worth pulling out of that, the one, sort of differences to make is beautiful. It easily also is quite.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, yeah.

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Alternate Line: bench in the wrong hands, but they handle that quite subtly as well, so that kind of brings these two…

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Alternate Line: fairly disparate tracks together, I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: Totally, yeah. My heart is yours, your joy surrounds me, I promise to protect it. I think that's just gorgeous. It's just really, really nice. It's really cozy, isn't it?

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Alternate Line: It's a very, like, welcoming, you know, you can definitely chill to this… to this music, you know, to this track, certainly.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, it's very subtle musicianship overall, I would say, like, there's no…

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Alternate Line: There's no element of this track that's trying to,

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Alternate Line: out-dazzle, or… there's… everything is incredibly well selected, well-recorded, subtly produced. It's just…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: just right. It's like a nicely done… nicely done sum, to quote Belbo.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, totally. So she was, she was a singer-songwriter that I'd not come across before, so she's French-Senegalese, a singer-songwriter based in London.

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Andrew's iPhone: She's had two previous albums in 2019 and 2021, but as I say, this is my kind of first exposure to her.

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Andrew's iPhone: Her latest album is called Devotion and the Black Divine.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, I just… I just think this is a really great record. One of the most impressive soul and R&B records that I've heard this year.

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Andrew's iPhone: And again, it's, it's… it's…

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Andrew's iPhone: being kind of championed by a kind of select group that I kind of follow online. But yeah, I think if you're looking for a soul record that feels classic without being sleevishly retro, then I can heartily recommend this record. Like, it's… as you say, it's just beautifully done.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, just every element of it is just right. So, yeah, I can really heartily recommend Devotion Divine by Ananis.

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Alternate Line: Lovely stuff. Excellent. So, a nice heartfelt recommendation from you as well. Okay, so that brings us to our final new track of the week.

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Alternate Line: Sort of alt-rock traveling Wilburys, is that who I've.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, yeah.

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Alternate Line: So this is, Drink the Sea, and the track is Pour Your Glow On. And there's a couple of names and a couple of performance notes in here that you must have known that I would go, yes, I like this.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, yes.

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Alternate Line: Oh yeah, right, so here we go, this is Pour Your Glow On, featuring just the gang, the cool guy gang, which we'll get into in a minute. Here we go, drink the sea.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Move on over, baby.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Pour your glow on… I'm glad to fuse and see.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Our hole in the own city.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Wings carry… Those won't keep us down.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Wings can't carry it Bruce won't keep us stuck.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Sights we can't unsee.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: For your glory.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: slow down.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Oh, friend.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Where's carriers? It moves won't keep us down.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Wings will carry a system.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Those who keep us down.

510
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: That's how we do not need.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Dream of flaming trees.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Too fool… roasted.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Up and speed.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Wings will carry us keep a style.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Winds will carry us through.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: That's who keep us together.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Vo.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Oh, you glow.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: The specks of dust we see in here.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Once your heart is still.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: The dogs will eat the sun.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Pour your glory.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Thanks for carry.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't roll us down.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Wings will carry us, swirls stone.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Move on softly.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Boiler.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Blood diffused and seen.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Electric Neon City.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: We swallow us down.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Pour your clothes…

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Alternate Line: Dang.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So that…

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Alternate Line: is…

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: is, Drink C.E.

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Alternate Line: With the lovely track Pour Your Glow On. So, yeah, so this is like a sort of a supergroup, I guess, is the sort of… I don't know if that's really the… I don't know if that's really the terminology, but it's… it's all,

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Alternate Line: artists from projects that we would have probably heard of before, and I think this sort of

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Alternate Line: through-line in all of it is that they're all previous collaborators with Mark Lanigan.

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Alternate Line: In one way or another. And some fans are calling the Drink the Sea Tour the mark-adjacent tour.

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Alternate Line: Because it's so, kind of, like, so much of a tribute, almost, to… to Lanigan, who died… was it last year? Year before?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I think it was a few years ago now.

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Alternate Line: Is that fierce? Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: I can't exactly remember, but yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, as you say, all of these artists have,

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Andrew's iPhone: some connection to Matt Lanigan, so we've got Peter Buck, obviously the founding guitarist and songwriter for REM, and a serial collaborator in his own right. Duke Garwood.

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Andrew's iPhone: Mmm… singer-songwriter and guitarist, too, who made some records with Lanigan to some acclaim.

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Andrew's iPhone: Alan Johannes, chilean-American producer.

548
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Andrew's iPhone: multi-instrumentalist, probably best known for his association with the Queens of the Stone Age and working with Josh Hommey.

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Andrew's iPhone: as part of the Desert Sessions, and then Crooked Vultures. I've got Barrett Martin, a Grammy-winning producer, and drummer with the Screaming Trees, Lanigan's group, and Lissette Garcia, a Mexican-American percussionist as well. So yeah, so a really kind of interesting selection of musicians.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just… Clearly, musicians that just thrive on collaboration as well.

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Alternate Line: Yep.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, I mean, I thought this would really appeal to you as…

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Alternate Line: It does.

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Andrew's iPhone: our Queens-related, specialist. I first became aware of this project

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Andrew's iPhone: by listening to a podcast with Alan Johannes, so he primarily was talking about… it's like an Art to Monkeys podcast, and he was talking about, the work that he'd done on their album, Humbug, as an engineer, and with, Hommy producing that album.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, he talked about a whole number of things, humbug, he talked about his close bond with Hommy. Apparently, Hommy actually, helped him find his biological father, which is quite a remarkable thing to do.

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Alternate Line: Alright.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which is incredible. And he talked about his love of collaboration.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, as I say, that's something that unites all the players here.

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Andrew's iPhone: And they clearly enjoy each other's company, so working first in Brazil, and then reconvening at the Rancho de la Luna in Joshua Tree.

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Andrew's iPhone: They… they laid down two albums worth of material, so there was two albums released simultaneously as Drink the Sea 1 and Drink the Sea 2. This is a song from Drink the Sea 1.

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Andrew's iPhone: I listened to both albums through a couple of times, and there's kind of different musicians taking the lead on different tracks, and there's different configurations of musicians for different tracks. This is one of the Duke Garwood compositions, and for me.

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Andrew's iPhone: His are the most compelling on… on the collections.

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean, his vocal… it kind of has a similarity to Lanigan's, it's kind of rich…

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Alternate Line: A lot, yeah, I would say.

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Andrew's iPhone: But, I mean, a lot of goods is a bit more kind of gravelly, but yeah, on the albums that they made together, there's definitely a kind of, kind of matching and a kind of pairing,

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Andrew's iPhone: There. And, yeah, there's a great song called Outside Again, which I nearly picked, and it kind of felt like it… it was kind of maybe kind of hinting at, that kind of… it's kind of hint… a kind of connection from Lanigan there as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's another track on Drinksy 2 called Rose Crested Sky that appears at exactly the same point in the album, and it forms pretty much exactly the same function, that kind of slow-burning function that this track does.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I just… I just thought this was a good track to pick. It just… I just really respond to the kind of general, kind of, drift, the kind of general, kind of, hazy, nocturnal ambience of this track, the kind of unhurried nature of it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: It's, like, almost like reading the blueprint from the Mark Lanigan record, Bubblegum, which.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's like Twitter.

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Alternate Line: 12 tracks, which are really like this. Kind of slow, but really engaging, you know, really, like, they feel really meaningful and really deep, in a way. And I think the performance on this track from all of them.

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Alternate Line: It's just really locked in, and really kind of, you know, there's no… there's no fat here. Everyone's just doing… doing what they should for the vibe of the track. Yeah, yeah. There's no big rip-roaring guitar solo or whatever, so you've just got the kind of subtle keys, the two guitars.

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Alternate Line: bit of bass, bit of drums, and then the vocal over the top, and that's pretty much it. So it does feel like…

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Alternate Line: these guys in a room, almost recorded live, which I really, really like. Peter Buck's guitar, brilliant. Just sounds really… this sounds really, really, really, really classic, really good,

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Alternate Line: you know, and I just think that the whole sort of, like, locked into the groove thing is exactly what the music of Mark Lanigan, the solo music of Mark Lanigan was all about. A word on Alan Johannes, who I'm a big fan of.

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Alternate Line: Homies described him loads of times as, like, he's your favorite musician's favourite musician kind of thing.

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Alternate Line: He just really knows how to just get things together, just… he has a… you mentioned there that he's a sort of an arch collaborator, but that's because he just gets things done, in a way. Yeah, yeah. And there's lots of stuff written about the one them Crooked Vultures record, which is…

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Alternate Line: a damn shame there isn't a second one, because it would be amazing. Unlikely now, because I think John Paul Jones is, like, 90 or something, so unlikely to get another one. But apparently, Alan Johannes was very influential on quite a lot of that. You know, the writing of it, that was the same period as Lullabies to Paralyze, which is the sort of Queens of Stone Age record, where he was quite influential as well. So I think quite a lot of, then, Crooked Vultures

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Alternate Line: probably wouldn't have happened without him, even though you sort of think of it as a trio. It's Dave Grohl and Joshua Hommey and John Paul Jones, but it was actually, I think, quite a lot, Alan Johannes as well. And when they reformed at the Taylor Hawkins, briefly reformed at the Taylor Hawkins tribute show,

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Alternate Line: I noticed Alan Johannes was there, so it's clear that he's very much, like, a member of that… of that,

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Alternate Line: Yeah. Of that, of that particular collective. So, so yeah, I love, I love this track. I think you could…

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Alternate Line: Definitely describe it as meandering.

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Alternate Line: You know.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: It is, as you said, it's got a kind of drifting quality. I think that's… that's what it's supposed to do.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Because you were talking, I mean, you were talking about the power of the crescendo, like, there's been a few times where I've listened to this track where I kind of thought maybe they could take it up a couple of gears at the end.

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Andrew's iPhone: But it's… it's just not what it's doing, really. No. It's just kind of wants you to kind of sit in that drift.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, it's definitely about putting you in a place, and having you, and taking you, you know, and I sort of see a kind of, like,

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Alternate Line: you know, almost like sitting in a kind of, like, an American porch, or, you know, you know, late at night, middle of the night, with this on a kind of crappy FM radio, in the background, and just kind of vibing out. That's kind of how I… that's kind of how I envision it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: envisage it. So yeah, I like how lovely it sounds, and it resonates with me, but I am very much in the demographic.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes.

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Alternate Line: So, I'll…

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Andrew's iPhone: Great title as well, Pour your… Pour Your Glow One.

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Alternate Line: one, yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: You kind of know what it means, but not quite, but… It's got that kind of mystical, slightly…

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Alternate Line: Mystical nonsense. Yeah, mystical nonsense, yeah. You know, yeah, the lyrics are full of that, really. Like, even the first line, move on over, babe, is very Mark Lanigan. Like, I can't… I had to, like… I wasn't aware of this project, so when I listened to the track for the first time.

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Alternate Line: I wasn't really paying attention to the who was on it kind of thing, so I just hit play, and you'd have to have seen me do it, Andrew, but I literally did, like, a sort of double take as I was listening, like.

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Alternate Line: Is this Lanigan? Have I skipped through to, like, the vinyl ward or something? But yeah, so there is a lot of mystical nonsense in amongst the lyrics there. Wings, carriers, and boots won't keep us down, and all that sort of stuff. But,

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Alternate Line: But yeah, it is, it is… yeah, it's just… it's a vibe, this one, for me. It's, you know, it's not gonna top the charts, but, but it's a vibe for me. The only fly in my ointment is that the,

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Alternate Line: Euro Tour stops in Glasgow on the 19th of December, and my brother-in-law's wedding is on the 20th of December, and I'm just wondering if I can somehow, like.

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Alternate Line: organize it that I should just go out to a gig the night before. I don't have any particular big role there, other than just being… just being there and…

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Alternate Line: be doing good wedding things, so I think that's probably fine.

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Alternate Line: What's the…

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Andrew's iPhone: If you choose to go, then I'll definitely go with you.

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Alternate Line: Oh, boy.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, cool, enjoyable night out.

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Alternate Line: I think so.

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Andrew's iPhone: That could be our Christmas night.

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Alternate Line: Oh, that's a great…

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Andrew's iPhone: Let's turn it into a bigger night.

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Alternate Line: That's great, yeah. I don't think, I have a feeling, like, the good ladies won't…

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Alternate Line: be quite as into, Alan Johannes lore as, I might be, so I don't know. But, but yeah, we'll see. Cool, so, so there we go. It's in Glasgow as well, I think they're in Leeds as well, and somewhere else. I don't have the information in front of me, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: Code.

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Alternate Line: Brighton. As I said last week, everything cools in Brighton, so that makes sense.

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Alternate Line: Right, so, Andrew, there we are, five tracks reviewed. We reviewed… we reviewed them a lot, and we did good reviewing things. That's us, the reviewers, look at us. Cool, so that leads us on to our final, segment of the show, which is the final word.

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Alternate Line: Andrew's gonna literally grab something down from his record collection, which I am looking at right now. He's looking at my meager. It's actually not as meager, there's two piles here, and there's a big pile over there.

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Alternate Line: But, yeah, Andrew's gonna pull something down from his record collection. Sometimes a tenuous link, sometimes a really highly developed link, some connected to one of our new tracks today. And we call this little segment…

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Alternate Line: The vinyl ones. Andrew, when you're ready.

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Andrew's iPhone: Hi, thank you. So, yeah, so we are going from the Marooja track Saoirse, so as you say, as well as meaning freedom.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's also an Irish name.

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Andrew's iPhone: And the person I think of when I think of Saoirse is Saoirse Ronan.

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Alternate Line: Yes?

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Andrew's iPhone: And the first film that I saw

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Andrew's iPhone: with her in was a film called Hannah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And the film Hannah had a soundtrack by the Chemical Brothers.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so… so they're gonna play us out this week. Also…

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Alternate Line: One of the Chemical Brothers is Kevin Bacon.

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Andrew's iPhone: As you say, sometimes it can be tenuous.

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Alternate Line: It can be. No, that's a good one. Shin…

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Andrew's iPhone: Sometimes it's a tenuous link, and sometimes it's a little bit more obvious than that, I guess. But yeah, I've chosen to place it with the Chemical Brothers this week, so it's a track from my favourite album of theirs, Surrender, from 1999.

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Andrew's iPhone: So there's some big hitters on that album, Hey Boy, Hey Girl,

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Andrew's iPhone: Music Response, Let Forever Be. But the track I've chosen to place it with is, Asleep From Day.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which is one of the, kind of, more low-key moments in the album, but one that I really enjoy.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it features the vocals of Hope Sandoval, who I think low-key has, kind of, turned into one of the most, kind of, influential artists of, this era, I would say, her and her work with Mazzistar.

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Andrew's iPhone: We were talking a few weeks ago about, you know, a shoegaze being a big…

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Andrew's iPhone: vibe with listeners these days. I think, like, dream… the dream pop of Mazzy Star kind of falls into that category as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so this is a track that I've always really enjoyed, and I thought it'd be nice to play set this week.

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Andrew's iPhone: See you soon, guys.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And now it's always good

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