Pop Soap Opera & Global Grooves: Lily Allen, pôt-pot, Sudan Archives, Madison Cunningham, and Daniel Caesar

No, but who is Madeline, actually? Iain and Andrew have their say on the big pop story of the moment, Lily Allen’s audio soap-opera West End Girl. Also on the slate are the menacingly shady psych of pôt-pot, Sudan Archives’ Afro-dance hybrids, the Californian baroque-folk of Madison Cunningham, and Daniel Caesar’s fluid, multi-phase R&B. Something frosty and lovely has The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't know what I… To win here out.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Carry on regardless.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Got enough money for one more beer, I'll carry on regardless. Hello! And welcome to We Heard Wonders, a music podcast that's good as gold, but stupid as mud.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Speak for your bloody self, sir.

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Alternate Line: Speak for yourself. Have you done, man?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I am with…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'm not too bad. How are you getting on?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Very well, very well. Happy to be back in the podcasting zone with Yao.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Absolutely.

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Andrew's iPhone: What's prompting that?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: prompted the track there.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't be cuties.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Yeah, I said that, there was a reason why I picked this honesty. Yeah, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: Every time I go back to Mum and dad's house, they tend to…

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Send me back with some stuff from my youth, from my past, and my dad's just always moaning about how there's just all this stuff from my past in their house still, basically.

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Andrew's iPhone: So every time I go there, I come back with loads of stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: And recently, I was over there, and I came back with a notepad.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I was wanting to share some of the contents of this notepad with you.

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Alternate Line: Okay. And get your reaction. I'm suitably intrigued by the notepad.

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Andrew's iPhone: Brian, share this just now.

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Alternate Line: Okay.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's no way this could possibly go wrong, we do.

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Alternate Line: I know, it feels like I'm, like, a circus performer on a tightrope right now, you know, the stakes are so high. There could be a hasty cut in the audio feed here, but let's fine.

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Andrew's iPhone: If you could just, fill up us for a second.

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Alternate Line: I will filibust away. Actually, I'm gonna introduce myself and say, hello everyone. I'm Ian, I'm in Glasgow Band, The Deadline Shakes, and it is quickly coming up on…

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Alternate Line: 10 years since the release of our debut album, Zealots, which was on, Flowers in the Dustbin Records back in the day. It's on all the social media platforms, it's on, you know, Apple Music and Spotify and all those good places. I think it's on YouTube as well, but I'm not absolutely sure.

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Andrew's iPhone: Very good.

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Alternate Line: Well, thank you so much. And we're, us Deadline Shakes are actually just having a quick chat about doing something to mark the decade anniversary of it. Quite what that'll be, we're not sure, but, we're gonna do something, even if it's just,

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Alternate Line: A gathering. We'll do something.

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Andrew's iPhone: And my name is Andrew, I buy records and write about them on Instagram at kid age86, and I've just sent you some pictures there, Ian, to look at.

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Alternate Line: Are they on WhatsApp? Yes, they are, okay, right. I'm opening as we speak. Okay, so… you've drawn a dug, and it says Andrew's Notebook.

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Alternate Line: No apostrophe.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's the… no apostrophe, that's the front page of the notebook.

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Alternate Line: Oh, is this like… is this like if you had a radio station?

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Andrew's iPhone: This is proto-We Heard Wonders.

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Andrew's iPhone: By 10-year-old Andrew.

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Alternate Line: This is fantastic, this is fantastic, right?

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Alternate Line: Lovely stuff. I think, you know, like, I didn't do this exact thing, but, like, stuff like this was very much, like, in my, in my wheelhouse, right? So…

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Alternate Line: Oh, wow, I'm just having a wee.

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Alternate Line: Now, we scroll through here.

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Alternate Line: Wow. Is Ruth your sister?

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Andrew's iPhone: She is, yeah.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, so Ruth's your co-presenter?

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Alternate Line: Yeah, and we'd also do it with my brother Keith as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, the first page has got a tracklist for the episode of Hall FM.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: I'm not… I don't mind telling you, it's not good.

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Alternate Line: Not a good… not a good tracklist. I'll just give you the top bunch of songs here. It's Never Want to Let You Go by Take That. Missing Everything But the Girl, that's a banger, actually, I'll give you that one.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Naked by Louise, which I don't… I remember Louise, but I don't remember that particular track. One Look by PJ and Duncan, which I think isn't even a good PJ and Duncan song.

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Alternate Line: I think it's a negative…

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Andrew's iPhone: Roof was very much a P.G.N. Duncan completist.

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Alternate Line: Oh, God. Rhythm of the Rain, Jason Donovan, holy moly, man.

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Andrew's iPhone: He was a big Jason Donovan fan.

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Alternate Line: And then, of course, Good as Gold by the Beautiful South.

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Alternate Line: Very nice.

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Alternate Line: Wow, you're finishing off with Three Lions by Jordan Skinner.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep, yep, so that was, it must have been the summer of 96.

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Andrew's iPhone: So that was obviously in the air.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Welcome back, listeners. These are the songs my tape editor and I think deserve to be in the top 5. Here is a song we both voted number 1. Gary Ballard singing Forever Love.

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Alternate Line: I'm afraid, listeners, we have to leave you now. Thank you for listening, goodbye, and here's our final song to finish us off.

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Alternate Line: But you don't actually see what the song is, so… that's what it is.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I like that it's got an introduction as well. This is Hall FM. I'm your DJ, Rocky Roof. On the crew, there is Andrew and Keith. Say hello, you two. So, yeah, I remember, like, we… I was Athletic Andrew and Cool Keith, Cool with a K.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so it was, it was kind of all there.

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Alternate Line: That's phenomenal. All the, all the features were there, really.

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Alternate Line: You don't do any vinyl watering like that, do you? Not one of those.

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Andrew's iPhone: It was… it was a… you'll notice that the… by the fact that there's, like, two Take That songs, there's two PG& songs.

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Andrew's iPhone: It was a relatively small repertoire that we had to go over.

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Andrew's iPhone: Small cassette collection.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, my mum and dad were massive, beautiful South fans, so it was…

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Andrew's iPhone: So that's the link there as well.

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Alternate Line: I'll be honest with you, I don't know that 41-year-old me is adding much more than, like, your, sort of.

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Alternate Line: young siblings at the time, I think it's pretty much just…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's the same…

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Alternate Line: nonsense for me that you would get from there. Well, okay. Well, that was a blast from the past. Phenomenal, phenomenal. I used to, I used to, with the old cassette deck, do the old trick where you would, like, you'd have the radio on, and you'd wait for a song to come on that you wanted to, like, tape.

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Alternate Line: And then it would just be, like, blasting out of your hi-fi, and you would hit, like, the two buttons, play and record, and the microphone in your hi-fi would just play the sound coming out the speakers.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it did not sound good, like, it's not a good sound, like, it's not… not good. I wonder where those cassettes are now.

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Alternate Line: landfill, I expect.

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Alternate Line: Landfill.

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Andrew's iPhone: Probably in my dad's garage.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, well, yeah, I don't think mine's… just when you were saying about, your dad, every time you go over there, he's just saying, listen, there's loaded your old rubbish line about you, why don't you take it away? He is just every dad. Like, that is every dad ever.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I don't really know what he's wanting space for, necessarily, just… He doesn't know either.

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Alternate Line: I think it's just a point you get to when you're a dad, where you're just like, I must exert some sort of authority here.

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Alternate Line: over something, and it might be just that. So yeah, it's a corner of my, loft that I… I need. I need it now. Yeah, there you go. Brilliant. So you've been a… you've been a podcaster all your days.

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Alternate Line: And I noticed as well, a wee quizzy element in there as well, that's another thing you're quite into even to this day.

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Alternate Line: Let's take that and party. I know it, because you've written it right here.

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Alternate Line: Brilliant.

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Alternate Line: You've gone, name three of the Beatles, and you've just written Ringo, John, and Paul.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I maybe don't know George myself at the time, I don't know.

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Alternate Line: Quite an unfair quiz. Very good.

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Alternate Line: Right, anyway, let's bring us back up to the… back up to the present. You know, I was chatting to,

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Alternate Line: one of my, friends who is a podcast listener, and he was saying that he actually very much enjoyed our little techie chat at the start of last week's, or last episode. We were talking about the vinyl setup, the timetable setup and all that. I don't think you actually said what your setup literally is, so I was just wondering if you could tell us.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, blame me. I mean, this…

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Alternate Line: Brand… brand names only is fine. Brand names only is fine. I think that's fine. You don't need to give us the, so-and-so LFJ1E…

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Andrew's iPhone: Okay, so I've got, like, a… it's a Project Debut Carbon that I've got, that was very generously given to me by my father-in-law.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then I've got…

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Andrew's iPhone: A phono amp, this is like a Denon setup, so I've got that phono amp with the Bluetooth.

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Andrew's iPhone: And all the other, kind of, nice little add-ons. I've got a Denon CD player as well, which sounds really, really good coming out of…

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Andrew's iPhone: some fine audio speakers, so that's fine, F-Y-N-E. So that's, I think they're a company, I think they're maybe based in Aberdeen, maybe? So a Scottish company, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: Beautiful speakers, absolutely beautiful. And, yeah, it sounds good to me, sounds good to me. I know, like, there's certain people that are really into it, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: probably could recommend some… some ways that I could improve it, but it's… it works for me just now.

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Alternate Line: If you're wondering why Andrew's audio went a bit muffled there, it was because he literally had to turn around and look.

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Alternate Line: Oh, this guy, this guy. Andrew also has a laptop that runs Windows Vista, which, to most people, they're like, what? How can that be possible? But Andrew, he's just like, are there other types of Windows? I don't even know, I don't even know.

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Alternate Line: So there we go. Cool, well, yeah, so your setup's pretty, pretty nice, I would say, like, it's, it's…

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Alternate Line: So, pretty good. So, I'm just thinking that, like, as I grow older now, like.

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Alternate Line: doing that sort of stuff, like, taking a minute. It's not as easy to listen to a record like that, it's a bit more complicated than listening on…

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Alternate Line: Oh, pause the resetting, hold on, Andrew, sorry.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, so if you were wondering why Andrew's audio was a little bit muffled, it was because he had to literally turn away from his microphone to look.

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Alternate Line: At the turntable and CD player and amplifier and speakers that he uses every day.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, man. You know, technology is not my strong point.

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Alternate Line: It's not your strong point, to be fair. It's not your strong point. Do you know what it is?

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Alternate Line: From, from Ute, Ute Radio is your strong point. Anyway, podcasting. We've got 5 pretty new tracks this week,

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Alternate Line: Do you want to run them down for us, please, Andrew?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep, so we're gonna be reviewing tracks by Lily Allen, Pop Popped, Sudan Archives, Madison and Cunningham.

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Andrew's iPhone: and Daniel Caesar.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. It'd be fair to say our first track, this week, the gently titled, Sorry Mom If You're Listening, Pussy Palace, was a little,

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Alternate Line: We had a… we had a bit of a text exchange about this, in the week, about whether or not we would, whether or not we would review this or not.

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Alternate Line: So, my position was, in the…

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Alternate Line: I think 4 years we've been doing this. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think I have once when you've sent a song on a playlist. I don't think I've ever said, no, I'm not, I'm not doing that, I don't want to do that one song.

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Alternate Line: But I just had such a visceral reaction to this Lily Allen song that I was just like, you know, it's the… you used to use this old yardstick, you used to say, look, if I've got nothing good to say about this, I'd rather we just didn't talk about it.

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Andrew's iPhone: efficient.

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Alternate Line: So I was like, I don't think I've got anything good to say about this. And you were kind… you were sort of on my wavelength, but it was kind of one of those ones where it's like.

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Alternate Line: really topical right now. It's really in the news, and the record's come out this week as well, the album, West End Girl. So… it is super topical. I don't want to ask you where you've landed on it, ultimately, because, like, I feel that that's the review, so,

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, obviously the album's come out, and it was about, kind of, trying to cherry-pick a track from it.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, I've landed on this one.

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Andrew's iPhone: Mainly because it's this kind of the song at the center of the record.

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Andrew's iPhone: It is the most salacious, it's the most reported on, I guess.

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Andrew's iPhone: So… So yeah, maybe I've not done the album justice in that respect,

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's also… I think as a result of those things, it's also the one that's had the most streams so far, and it kind of went in the chart at the highest position out of all the tracks on the album, so that's why I chose it. It's kind of maybe the one that's been the most talked about.

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Andrew's iPhone: What's a kind of jumping-off point to talk about the album as a whole, maybe?

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I think there's… I think I've ultimately come to the point of view…

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Alternate Line: Our listeners will be the judge of this, but I think ultimately there's plenty of interesting stuff to say about this track beyond the salaciousness of it, so, so yeah. So, if you are listening, and you are offended by the word,

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Alternate Line: You're gonna hear it a lot. You're gonna hear it a lot. So here's Lily Allen with, Pussy Pals.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't come home, I don't want you in my bed.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Go to the apartment in the West Village instead, I'll drop off your clothes, your mountain medication, I'm already on my way, heading to the station, stuck on the F, there's a problem on the line.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I couldn't be more stressed. I'm losing my mind. Up to the first floor, key in the front door, nothing's ever gonna be the same anymore.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't feel right.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I didn't know.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You see, please?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Visit us.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: JoJo! Dojo, bojo

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: No joke.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: A shoebox full of

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Handwritten letters from broken-hearted women wishing you could have been better. Sheets pulled off the bed, strewn all on the floor, long black hair, probably from the night before. Plain read back with the handles tied. Sex toys, butt plugs, loop inside. Hundreds of Trojans, you're so fucking broken.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I get caught up in your doubles.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: That's where…

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Something I'll feel right.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Gojo.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: culture.

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Alternate Line: So yeah, Andrew, why don't you… why don't you just… let's get… Right down in the…

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Andrew's iPhone: Okay, so, this is the new Lily Album that's came out. It's our fifth LP, arriving 7 years after our previous offering, which is called No Shame.

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Andrew's iPhone: And No Shame was a record that chronicled Lily Allen's attempts to pick up the pieces following the breakdown of her first marriage.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, this…

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Andrew's iPhone: album West End Girl is very much dealing with the breakdown of her second marriage to Stranger Things actor David Harbour.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, I mean, there's been an enormous amount of newspaper coverage about this record, as well as many glowing reviews for it as well, since its release last Friday, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, I thought it was kind of… your kind of visceral reaction to it, so I thought it was quite interesting, maybe, to kind of, like, talk about as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: I was trying to think about, like, why critics and fans have maybe responded the way they have to it. I think they can't help but get caught up in the kind of frankness and the emotional aspects of the album, that kind of gossipy…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's just, like, one of the… it's one of those kind of albums that you put on and you kind of need to hear the end of it, just to kind of hear how the story ends, because it's… there's not just a kind of few references here and there to… to the breakdown in the marriage, it's a proper kind of concept album.

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Andrew's iPhone: like a monologue, almost, a kind of detailed blow-by-blow account of, what happened. She's talked about it being the events that led me to where I am in my life now.

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Andrew's iPhone: And she described it as a mixture of fact and fiction, but I think that… that's very much just for the benefit of the lawyers, that phrase, I think, because there's something about the specificity of the lyrics throughout that just feel… the kind of rig of truth to the whole thing. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's that kind of idea, as well as being entertained by the contents, that people are kind of seeing as an opportunity to rally around

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Andrew's iPhone: Someone, who clearly feels that they've been hurt and wronged.

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Andrew's iPhone: And they've come out swinging. You know, in Beyonce's case, it was literally swinging with a baseball bat, but here, like, Lily Anne's swinging as well, and telling her side of the story.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, and there's just something about the kind of quick nature and the way that this was announced. It was recorded in 10 days, and there's a very kind of unvarnished nature to the whole project that feels kind of very contemporary.

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Andrew's iPhone: But it's also given a journalist the opportunity to draw a line between Lily Allen's work and

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Andrew's iPhone: that of, kind of big mainstream stars who cite her as an influence, so people like, Charlie XCX, or Billie Eilish, Hayley Williams as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: Because kind of Lily Allen's whole kind of thing from the start, really, was that kind of messiness, that kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: idea of kind of documenting everything and being unapologetically yourself, that's kind of like a… it's a kind of proto-Brat kind of attitude, almost. Yeah. So yeah, so… so yeah, as I say, written and recording in 10 days, very fast, very emotionally direct, raw, forthright, as you say.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's… there's no need to kind of read between the lines with this. There's, like, no metaphors or analogies, it's just kind of, this is what happened, kind of thing. And it's obviously only, you know, one side of the…

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Andrew's iPhone: the conversation that we're getting here, but I've seen quite a few people sharing the meme from Gaff Moringi's Dark Place in relation to this album. It's, with the title character saying that subtext is for cowards.

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Andrew's iPhone: Like, it's just, like, this is what happened.

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Andrew's iPhone: And she, as I say, it all kind of works like a monologue. She uses a lot of kind of dramatic techniques and conceits throughout.

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Andrew's iPhone: So the first track ends with her…

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Andrew's iPhone: We could get one side of a Zoom call with her husband when she's working in another country.

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Andrew's iPhone: And we also get,

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Andrew's iPhone: and she confronts Madeline about the affair, and they have this conversation, and Madeline ends the conversation with love and light, love Madeline. So there are those kind of dramatic conceits, but it is very much,

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so even though it's kind of unsavoury and quite depressing in a lot of the kind of details that are revealed, there is a kind of honesty and a frankness to it that you've kind of got to admire. You know, remember a few weeks ago, you were talking about Tame Impala, their new record, and

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Andrew's iPhone: The directness of the writing here.

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Andrew's iPhone: But I think it's quite interesting that very few of the reviews that I've read of this record actually deal with what it sounds like.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which was, I think, could be something that we could maybe talk about.

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Alternate Line: Oh, I will definitely be talking about that. I will definitely be talking about that. So I, like, I think now's a good point for me to jump in. So, I think you were arriving at the point there that the Tame Impala record, but we both said this, is a bit dull.

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Alternate Line: Went in, not that I'm against watching a Fifty Shades film, it's just like, that's just what it was, right? So, went in, sat down,

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Alternate Line: Dull as Ditch, what are those films? Like, I don't know anyone who finds them in any way, like, thrilling at all. It's really boring, really weird, like, glossy office setting. There's a helicopter crash, then they're in Aspen, someone's playing a piano, it's all kinds of things. Anyway, it gets to the sort of mucky bit.

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Andrew's iPhone: Go ahead.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I just found that endlessly funny. And there's something about, like, there's something about them…

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Alternate Line: the audience kind of gasp to some extent. And it's that level of frankness that we're not that familiar with in a piece of popular music.

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Alternate Line: But it actually led me, ultimately, once I got over my, sort of, frustration with it, to let me think about authorship a little bit, and how we are so… I think as a… as a group of listeners, the world now.

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Alternate Line: that this is 100% exactly what happened. And you said, well, it's only one side of the story, and that's true, but even so, we're just like, well, that must be what's happened, and he must be a bad guy, and, you know, whatever, and real life, Lily Allen, I mean.

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Alternate Line: it's just, like, it takes it somewhere else, it adds to a sense of drama. But if you… it didn't have that, still a clash record. Still an amazing record. And, I was thinking about Taylor Swift, and as you said, cloaks everything in mystery, but, like, the 10-minute version of All Too Well.

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Alternate Line: It's an amazing song. It's like, it's just a phenomenal piece of music. It's really interesting, and it might be about Jake Gyllenhaal, but it might not be, you know? Who knows, really? You know, so there's that.

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Alternate Line: And ultimately, because I'm a highbrow snob, it made me think a little bit about Sylvia Plath, and, you know, Sylvia Plath's poetry and writing is obviously

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Alternate Line: So yeah, there we go. Rant. It's not as good as the YG Marley rant, I don't think I could… I don't think I could ever top that. I think I finished that off by just saying minus 5 stars, which we don't even use a rating.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I was thinking this song kind of reminds me, it sounds like a kind of shadow version of something that would maybe be on Coldplay's Milo Xyloto album. So it's kind of like When Paradise Becomes Pussy Palace.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think there's a kind of grubbiness and a kind of sense of disgust that's kind of baked into this track.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's got the kind of OOOs that you kind of get in a kind of classic Coldplay song, but it's not euphoric in any way. No. It's not… it's almost designed not to be enjoyable to listen to.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think that… no, it's not. And I think that's the kind of the issue that I have with the album as a whole. As I say, I was kind of engaged with it the first time I listened to it, kind of wanting to hear the story that she's got to tell, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's kind of like a particularly juicy episode of a soap opera, or a reality show, or something like that. You get sucked in, you want to find out what happened, and you want to know what the fallouts are, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: And also… gonna linger in the memory ever. I think, you know, people are gonna get in…

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Alternate Line: you know, and it's also timed to the restarting of the show Stranger Things, and, you know, that… even that element of it is like, well, because she knows that he's hurt her, so this is the best time to hurt him back, and I'm just like, oh my god!

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, I must admit, I've struggled to find too much, because they are quite a relatively new project, but Cootpot

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Andrew's iPhone: Based in Portugal, and primarily led by multi-instrumentalist Mark Waldron Heydrun, Hayden.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, they've been quietly dropping EPs and singles for the last few years.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, last month, we finally got the debut full-length, which is called Wausau 480km.

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Andrew's iPhone: Released on Filt Records.

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Andrew's iPhone: And… And yeah, I'm always in the market for a band that can take

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Andrew's iPhone: The dark psychedelia of the Velvet Underground, Spaceman Free, and Jesus and Mary Chain.

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Alternate Line: Okay, well, that's the big, the big build-up, so here we go. Here is… Sextape. Bye, putt.

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Alternate Line: You know, I liked the… instantly, I liked the… I liked it straight away from the opening, because I really liked the little plucky, reverb-y guitar that opens the track.

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Alternate Line: And how it starts at one rhythm, and then settles into this very different rhythm within about 5 or 6 seconds, and it nestles in that groove for the full, sort of.

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Alternate Line: 4 minutes of the whole track.

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Alternate Line: I like… I think it's really well recorded as well. I think it's got a kind of… I mean, it's absolutely dripping with reverb, everything is absolutely reverbed out, it's not… Yeah. But not… not to the point where it's…

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Alternate Line: it's swampy, it's actually got a lot of clarity, to it. I think the bass sounds great, bass guitar sounds great, that plucky guitar sounds great, drums sound good.

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Alternate Line: Vocal's a little muddy, perhaps, but I think that's maybe what they were.

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Alternate Line: what they were going for. And I guess the main feature of a track like this is it's obviously locking itself into a groove.

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Alternate Line: And then very, very gradually building up, towards the end of the track, building up a kind of… a kind of crescendo. If I'm being critical.

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Alternate Line: I would say around about the 3-minute mark, I'm kind of wondering, where is this going? Like, there's there been a lot of this, you know, and the lyrics are essentially, like, a verse, and you hear that

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Alternate Line: three, four times. So a little bit, I'm still kind of thinking, like, where is this going? But as a mood piece, you know, and as you say, a kind of psychedelic, velvet Underground-y kind of…

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Alternate Line: I think it works.

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Alternate Line: I think it works.

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Andrew's iPhone: Good, yeah, I think it does as well, yeah. I think there's always going to be new, young bands that are drawn to this sound and this style, and listeners too. I think I always try and bring in a few tracks by bands like this, at least a few times a year, just because I know people…

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Andrew's iPhone: will enjoy it, and maybe be excited to hear a new version of it. And I think this is one of the better versions that I've heard in a while. It's just always going to be a kind of classic setup. I've seen live footage of this group as well, and of course they're dressed in black, and of course they're wearing dark shades, you know, it's just that kind of… Yes. It's just that whole kind of vibe.

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Andrew's iPhone: to it. So yeah, so I'm positive on it as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: I read an interview with Mark Walden Hydn, and he was talking about the fact that he's kind of… he's influenced by psych and cosmich music, but also funk, the funk of James Brown, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: Curtis Mayfield, so just the kind of repetition, the simple beats.

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Andrew's iPhone: the bass-driven nature of the compositions, and rhythm guitar at the forefront, so I guess so, so…

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Andrew's iPhone: And just the kind of texture that that brings, as well, as well as the kind of groove of it.

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Andrew's iPhone: So he says that, can Velvet Underground annoy give me the color palette, and funk gives me the framework?

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Andrew's iPhone: I think that's… that's quite interesting.

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Andrew's iPhone: You said about the kind of muddiness of it. I think there is something kind of comparatively dreary in low fidelity compared to some of the other offerings this week, but yeah, I think that kind of fits with the genre, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: Especially a kind of debut album, it feels like a band playing live in a dingy room, and I think that works well.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's got some nice kind of textures and…

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Andrew's iPhone: And, as you said, those kind of reverb kind of add some… some interesting notes to it as well. So, yeah, I think.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, there's a…

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Andrew's iPhone: works.

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Alternate Line: This is a tremolo… I think it's a guitar, it's a really tremolo effect guitar, which is just sort of hovering over the, you know, the majority of the track, sort of going all the way over it. Might be, might be keys, don't know, don't know what it is. But,

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Alternate Line: That, obviously, adds to the atmosphere.

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Alternate Line: But again, we find ourselves with a track like this, or I certainly found myself… it's the editing…

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Alternate Line: Thing, or the editorial element of it, like…

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Alternate Line: You know, it's supposed to lock into a groove, we get that, repetition's part of the groove, but just as a… as a standalone

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Alternate Line: Piece of music that's 4 minutes long.

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Alternate Line: Does it just contain enough? Does it have enough?

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Alternate Line: You know, variety and…

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Alternate Line: changes, you know, it's a hard one. You know, I don't have a particularly restless brain for this stuff, you know, I'm not always looking for, you know, we need a middle 8, and then we need a key change, and then we need two choruses, and I don't need all of that, but

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Alternate Line: Yeah. I just wonder if I listened to, like, 40 minutes of this, you know, would I be… would I be as satisfied? Have you listened to the records?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I do think it's a very good record. There's tracks that are more…

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Andrew's iPhone: kind of… that kind of more motoric, cosmiche thing of, like, yeah, just kind of, like, drawing, drawing out, but, like, really kind of propelling forward kind of thing, whereas, as you say, I think this one's a little bit more about the atmosphere.

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Alternate Line: M…

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I mean, it took me a while to recognize that this track only essentially has 10 words that are repeated, because I think it has enough movement within the track to keep it interesting.

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Andrew's iPhone: For me. And yeah, ultimately, I've gone with the Pussy Palace 6 tape thing. That's why I've chosen.

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Alternate Line: One to a punch.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I would… if you're intrigued by this sound, and you like any of the bands that I've referenced, definitely check out this album. As I said, the album's called Warsaw 480km.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I think it's a very good debut.

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Alternate Line: Okay, well, the man knows what he's talking about when it comes to his psych, so we'll just take him at his word. Okay, so on to a new track from Sudan Archives. We've definitely talked about Shedan Archives before, haven't we?

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Andrew's iPhone: We have, yeah, yeah. I was very, very, positive about her last record, which was back in 2022.

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Alternate Line: Was that in one of our…

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Andrew's iPhone: Actually, number 2… On my roundup that year. So yeah, it was a very positive one.

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Alternate Line: Excellent. Okay, so, for reasons that I assume will be on a blog somewhere, this track's title is all in caps, and it's Come and find you!

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Alternate Line: which I feel I have to sort of yell. And here it is, Sudan Archives.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Up and down he go.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: He goes, signal a cable, city of angels.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Speed and all he floats to San Francisco.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: We haven't spoken at all since last night.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Now we go deep in the gaver.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Hello, you don't care.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I see those beautiful design wires ain't cry.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Fire.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Tell me now, my dear, I don't need my belongings to drive me mad.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I can't help But I want to know why I've been feeling so

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I don't fear, even though this book

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It all wins, we all sin, we all win.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: What turns, he comes and goes so easily Without restraint. The wrist, the flick of it, I move my hips, he sways with me.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Ignore the pain of yesterday. I'll always find a way Everybody.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You know, I really… unusual element of this track, which again, I don't think I noticed.

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Alternate Line: Until we're actually listening to it live on the old pod here, is that a spectacularly long fade-out at the end?

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Alternate Line: That's, like, 40 seconds of fade-out. That's really, really, really long.

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Alternate Line: Especially for a track that'll be on the radio.

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Andrew's iPhone: It is, yeah. It almost, like, deliberately slows down, as well. It's like…

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Alternate Line: Give us…

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Andrew's iPhone: drags it out.

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Alternate Line: You must know if you put out a track like that. You know…

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Alternate Line: DJ's gonna chop that off, you know what I mean? Like, that's… that's not making it all the way to its full… its full length. Yeah, so Sedana Archives, I recognise the name…

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Alternate Line: instantly from, from days gone by, and from one of our Roundup, Roundup shows a good couple of years ago.

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Alternate Line: Well, I couldn't really remember, I couldn't really remember the track or the experience of listening to it. I remember… I do remember your enthusiasm, so I went back and tried to find that in amongst our… in amongst our archives, and and yeah, I wasn't… I wasn't disappointed. You were very enthusiastic about it.

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Alternate Line: So, I thought I'd better match that enthusiasm with some enthusiasm for this new track, so I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do that, okay?

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Alternate Line: it would be fair to say, like, this is not immediately in my wheelhouse, like, this is not something I would be, like, seeking out. But this is a… I think this is a song, and a, like, a project where,

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Alternate Line: if you look… if you look for what's good in it, there's plenty, there's a lot of… a lot of interesting stuff, and I'm gonna commit the cardinal sin, I often do on track 3, and I'm gonna say, if I compare this song to the two that we've listened to already, this is just… this just seems to be full of life, and vitality, and energy, and excitement.

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Alternate Line: So it's sonically, I guess, pretty unlike anything else you'll hear this week. I don't imagine you've got, like, 6 other tracks that are gonna sound like a Sudan Archive thing.

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Alternate Line: And it's weirdly also…

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Alternate Line: probably hovering on the edge of being a fairly mainstream… fairly mainstream record as well. So it's a great combination of… it sounds weird, and also sounds palatable, which is… which is a good mix. You know, you can find lots of things that are weird, and lots of things that are palatable, but not often at the same time.

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Alternate Line: I think the thing I like about it most, really, is… so it's this sort of genre-smashing things around you, but there's a bit of afrobeat in there.

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Alternate Line: Little bit jazzy, and I guess R&B is probably its primary genre, maybe? And I really like how you've got, like, that sort of really scuzzy, like, almost, like, distorted violin.

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Alternate Line: And you've got, like, sort of quite, you know, you know, the quite live-sounding drumming that appears halfway through the track. And then there's all these kind of beats and glitches and squeaks, and this ultra-smooth R&B vocal over the top of all of it. So it's quite an eclectic mix of…

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Alternate Line: of things that somehow hang together in a cohesive package. So,

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Alternate Line: So yeah, I think it's really, really good.

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Andrew's iPhone: Prave.

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Alternate Line: Yay!

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Andrew's iPhone: I like something.

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Alternate Line: thing is!

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Alternate Line: No ranting.

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Andrew's iPhone: Good, yeah, you're definitely scribbing from me in terms of, like, talking about the track itself.

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Andrew's iPhone: So I…

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Andrew's iPhone: things that I wrote down. In some ways, it's a kind of standard indie dance track in the way that it's kind of set up, but as you say, there's… there's enough kind of invention and strangeness within it to make it its own thing, its own kind of hybrid, if you like, and yeah, I love the rhythmic drumming, I love that manipulated violin.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, just the production on this track and throughout the album, I think, is just kind of next level. I think it's really great. And, as you say, the kind of vibrancy of it, the detail of it… this wasn't… this wasn't… this wasn't a project that was done in 10 days.

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Alternate Line: No.

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Andrew's iPhone: Your kind of, like, thought and attention paid to every aspect of it.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, that's, that's something that I love about this project, Sudan Archives in general. So, Sudan Archives, people that don't know, real name, Brittany Denise Parks.

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Andrew's iPhone: She emerges as, like, an avant-garde violinist, using pedals and effects to manipulate her instrument, and she's kind of gone in this alternative R&B, experimental hip-hop direction.

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Andrew's iPhone: Over the course of several releases.

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Andrew's iPhone: As I say, her last record, Natural Brown Prom Queen, was just one of my favourites of 2022.

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Andrew's iPhone: I just thought it was an absolutely fantastic record. The track that we played quite a bit was Homemaker, which was just this fantastic kind of future soul thing that just went through these multiple phases and had a real kind of insistent groove to it. It was just absolutely fantastic, and that whole album was…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's an absolute kind of joyride, really, going through so many different genres, whether it be hip-hop, R&B, dancehall, psychedelia, gypsy folk, even.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, just a real kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: Just a joy of a record, that one.

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Andrew's iPhone: For the… and she has clearly kind of taken her time to make this debut, this kind of follow-up, sorry. And on it, she's kind of taken on the persona of this character, Gadget Girl.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which, if you imagine a hypersexualized steampunk version of Inspector Gadget, that's kind of what we're dealing with here.

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Andrew's iPhone: Go, go, gadget bitch, basically, is what she's going for. And yeah, she's kind of using that persona to explore all forms of dance and club music.

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Andrew's iPhone: On this new album, which is appropriately titled The BPM.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, the two previous tracks that we've discussed kind of hinted at the kind of darker, seedier aspects of sex, but I think there's just something genuinely kind of sexy about this track.

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Andrew's iPhone: And some of the other ones on the album as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I was kind of unsure whether the kind of disparate singles would appeal to me.

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Andrew's iPhone: As much as the… Like, the new album?

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Alternate Line: As a previous album, sorry, whether the new album would appeal to me as much, whether it would all kind of cohere together, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's not necessarily the most cohesive listen, because there are just so many different aspects of dance, and…

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Andrew's iPhone: club music within it, but it's just an album that I just… it kind of beckons you back. It's very addictive, it's a lot of fun.

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Andrew's iPhone: And that production is just, fantastic as well throughout. So, yeah, I think this is another winner from her. I think this is absolutely brilliant.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. Well, let's not overburden it with criticism and praise and all that sort of stuff. I think it is… it stands alone. That's not a particularly helpful thing to say on a review podcast when we're supposed to be talking about stuff, but I feel like…

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Alternate Line: you know, it speaks for itself, that one, in a way that lots of tracks don't.

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Andrew's iPhone: Even when it comes on the Six Music, and you've got the now playing, it's like, all… as you say, all the titles are in capital letters, so it's just like… bam, it's just, it's just there, it's in your face kind of thing, but it's… Yeah. Yeah, it stands out.

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Alternate Line: Allcraft, that one as well, really, really well put together. As you said, really, really, like, thoughtful production, it's progressive, it's new.

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Alternate Line: Parts of it are familiar, it's acoustic, it's electronic… yeah.

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Alternate Line: It's a good, good piece of art. Okay.

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Alternate Line: So on to something a bit different now. So, this next track is,

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Alternate Line: by Madison Cunningham, and it's called Scale Tree, and I think I'm just gonna hit play on this right now, Andrew.

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Alternate Line: Here we go.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It can almost set you out to it, the mind to do it, every line you will one day cross.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Nearly traceable.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Out of the vows you make and the lines you draw. I walked right into that big tailspin and couldn't unsee what I saw.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You and your London eyes, blue as a vein. Free and a loss Perfectly ordinary, the day I crossed.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: That long road with your fast cargo now, something's got to give.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Had to move.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Feed the side.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: To let the world play.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Happy stall!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It's hoe!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Come to play games.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Staring… A purple sun.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: But I put that symbol up to my eye?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Did I get your love at the cost of my mind?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Bama…

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Shells and bones and water from homes are bound to wash away in that flow.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Who did it all, as you keep hinting Nothing drunk.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I see you too well, don't let you tell me you're not the moon, you bother me.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: We've all stood under those skeleton trees.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Up in the shade.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You're unaware.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You'll find a way.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Got to kill, got to…

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: To acknowledge it, the sky.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Standing too close to be sure

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Who I am, or who you are.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: That infinite amount.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Did I get you lucky?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Depression.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You're grinding away and you're wasting This running water, I don't trust what you say, but I can't believe

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It scratches says I use them guilt. It's getting harder to unquil. I pull my body out of that

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Just banking on this, feeling it bad.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So many times I can When the channels open up to me

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Why?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: How's the strong…

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Alternate Line: Whoa.

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Alternate Line: Not since the heady days of happy days.

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Alternate Line: have I been so happy to hear from a Cunningham? And, that… that track, Skeletree there. I'm just gonna… I'm just gonna read you what I wrote in my… in my note here about it.

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Alternate Line: I just wrote… By a distance, the best thing I've heard in ages. Sounds so good.

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Alternate Line: And I think that's where I would open to talk about it, is just to talk about it sonically.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: So before getting into the song and the writing of it and all that, it literally just sounds phenomenal in your headphones, it sounds phenomenal through your speakers, it sounds really good in your car, it's a beautiful

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Alternate Line: piece of music, incredibly well recorded. And it… I started to then think about, well, why is that?

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Alternate Line: And, I think there's something about… There's something about acoustic guitar…

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Alternate Line: that I… I mean, I love the sound of acoustic guitar, obviously, right? I like… I like listening to it when it's on my lap, I like listening to it when it's played by a proper expert, and there's something about when you layer acoustic guitars together.

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Alternate Line: That you do get this soft, soft brushiness, that can be very, very percussive, and I think that the way the guitars interact with each other here is really, really, really good.

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Alternate Line: And… There's some touches in here, which I think come from some of my favourite…

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Alternate Line: you know, are maybe inspired by, or just happen to sound like some of my favourite things in music. So, like, the sort of coda section towards the end has real touches of Led Zeppelin III, which is just one of my favourite records ever made. The production, the orchestral elements just really hit that sort of 67, 68 George Martin…

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Alternate Line: Beatles-A type, type production, sort of touches of I Am The Walrus and so on in there. And this might be a little bit out of left field, but the songwriting has a little touch of…

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Alternate Line: I don't know if you know the Neil Finn solo record, Try Whistling This, from the early 2000s. You know, he's got a crowded house guy. Little bit of touch of that in the songwriting.

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Alternate Line: It's also kind of rocky, so it's got a folkiness, and our guitar playing is excellent, obviously, but it's got a kind of touch of rock just in there as well as a few distorted guitars, kind of bulking things up in places.

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Alternate Line: So yeah, wow, just, just a really, really spectacular piece of music. Where, and again, just to round off with the thing I started with, where, to me, the main enjoyable thing is.

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Andrew's iPhone: this one.

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Alternate Line: Sonically what it… what the waves feel like as they splat in through your ears and bounce off your brain pan.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's really lush, isn't it? It's just… there's just so much to kind of get into with it, and yeah, I mean…

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Andrew's iPhone: she… her… her arrangements and kind of melodically and harmonically, the stuff that she's doing, it's kind of… it's all very kind of… I think of it very kind of horizontal, what she does. It's kind of… it's just… it's kind of… everything's just kind of, like, building and building on top of each other. Yeah. And she… she does, she does that.

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Andrew's iPhone: brilliantly on this track, and throughout the album as well. Just really kind of harmonically rich.

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Andrew's iPhone: In that respect, she kind of reminds me a lot of, Rufus Wainwright. Yes. Who I love, kind of, like, poses and want one and want to era, Rufus Wainwright. Yeah, just absolutely brilliant. As well as Joni Mitchell as well, so,

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Andrew's iPhone: We should say Madison Cunningham is a Californian singer-songwriter, and primarily guitarist, is what she's known for. Rolling Stone have described her music as a new spin on West Coast folk rock.

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Andrew's iPhone: With classical tendencies, electric guitars, jazz school chord changes, and alt-rock strut all living under the same roof.

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Andrew's iPhone: And.

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Alternate Line: They're pretty good Rolling Stone, aren't they? I mean, that is actually a

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Alternate Line: Pretty perfect summary of what we just listened to there, isn't it? It's like, bang on, hits all the things that I said in a kind of clumsy way. They've just said that, like, there I go.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, that's a good description. And, yeah, her previous three LPs have kind of led more into that guitar-based sound, and you hear it in that track as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I mean, she's earned Grammy wins and nominations in the Folk and Americana categories, and as a result, she's been a kind of guitarist for hire as well, so she's played with…

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Andrew's iPhone: Andrew Bird, Harry Styles, and Mumford & Sons as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: But this new record's slightly different for her, so… the new album's called Ace. It's released on Verve Records.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which are primarily a jazz label, but they do some other stuff as well. But this new album's kind of got more of a kind of Baroque…

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Andrew's iPhone: piano-led feel to it. So at the start of 2025, she played a set at Celtic Connections that was made up entirely of new material on the piano.

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Andrew's iPhone: And that's where she debuted a lot of the songs that form this new album, Ace.

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Andrew's iPhone: And she's talked about this being the album that she's always wanted to make. This sounds like me.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so… so it is kind of more piano-led. As I say, she's kind of being compared to Joni Mitchell. There's a track… the kind of first track proper on the album is called Shore, and it's got this very kind of Joanie, intimate, at-the-piano storytelling feel to it, and it's kind of shifting perspective to the songwriting, which is really good.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, having said all that, I've picked this track just because I really, really like it, Skilletree.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's kind of one of the heavier, darker tracks on the record, and one of the more kind of prominent guitar-led tracks on the record.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's not kind of like hard rock or deaf metal by any means, but there is a kind of heaviness to it emotionally as well, if you kind of delve into the lyrics of it.

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Alternate Line: Well, speaking of which, can I give you one? Yep. Can I give you one? Did I get your love at the price of my heart?

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Alternate Line: is just in a very well-expressed heartbreak line. I don't know if Lily Allen is listening, but that's how you actually write a lyric about that? An actual bit of poetry that naturally kind of,

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Alternate Line: Summarizes the feelings, leaves the… leaves the listener…

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Alternate Line: Thinking, nourished, you know, you know, questioning, you know.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: and not… it doesn't say the word butt plug once, and I think that's to its massive, massive credit.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, and it kind of uses the analogy of, like, a car crash to describe the destruction of a marriage, so again, this kind of album's kind of dealing with,

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Andrew's iPhone: disintegration of a marriage, but she does it in a kind of very different way. So yeah, so I walked right into that big tailspin and couldn't unsee what I saw. Perfect ordinary the day I crossed that long road with your fast car coming. So it's that kind of idea of, yeah, this kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: Shock out of the blue.

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Andrew's iPhone: Common, and kind of just, kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: shattering the whole of her existence, basically. And then later in the track, she talks about pulling her body out of the crash, just banking on the feeling passing. So it's that kind of idea of kind of beginning the process of healing and rebuilding your life. So I think that kind of works really well as a kind of analogy.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just, just, like, the repetition of that stuff has got to give, got to break.

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Alternate Line: I mean…

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Andrew's iPhone: It's just got a real kind of drama to it.

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Alternate Line: I just knew, just to support what you're saying there, I just knew from the first couple of lines that we were dealing with a lyricist of some skill here. So the first line says, you can almost set your watch to it.

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Alternate Line: The mind intuits, which is a great rhyme, intuits to it. So your mind intuits every line you will one day cross. So the concept of, you know, you can almost anticipate

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Alternate Line: Particular moments in your life before you get there. It's just…

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Alternate Line: big brain stuff, man, really, really, really beautifully written. That just feels like something that would, you know.

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Alternate Line: pour out of someone, you know? It's just so…

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Alternate Line: So, it just feels easily observed, but, you know, almost impossible to replicate. I wish I could write something like that lyric I just read out loud there.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: I wish I could write something like that. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just at the title and the lyrics as well, alluding to the skeleton tree, so you've got the kind of connotations of loss and lost hope, and… as a metaphor for the kind of aftermath of a… or a catastrophe, you know, as well. Yeah. There's that kind of… and that kind of idea of being left without protection, a skeleton tree, nothing to kind of shelter you.

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Alternate Line: And the tree element of it is that…

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Andrew's iPhone: Really worth it.

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Alternate Line: the growth of loss as well, and the swelling feelings of it, it's got that… it's got that crossover between death and life in the concept of skeleton tree as well. Pretty good! Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Pretty good.

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Andrew's iPhone: Right.

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Alternate Line: Be a plea to you, brothers in Cunningham.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, and I'd really recommend the record as well. As I say, really kind of… Interesting and,

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Andrew's iPhone: satisfying, harmonically and melodically. Just lots of highlights throughout the record. There's a fantastic first single, which is called My First… My Full Name, which is really, really good. There's a track called Wake, which features the vocals and guitar of Robin Picknold from Fleet Foxes.

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Alternate Line: Oh, lovely.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, there's that kind of… just that kind of richness throughout, that complexity. And there's lots of lovely extra instrumentation throughout the record as well. I mean, strings here are used to that… to kind of add that kind of eerie dark element, but elsewhere they're kind of used in a more classically pretty way.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's lots of lovely, like, woodwinds and things like that going on throughout the record as well, with a kind of autumnal feel to the whole thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's one of those records that repays repeated lessons as well, I would say. So yeah, Ace by name, Ace by nature.

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Alternate Line: Excellent. Loved it. Okay, so, on to, Daniel Caesar.

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Alternate Line: It's our fifth, new track of the week. And…

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Alternate Line: like, another, another, like, sonically very pleasing track, this one. So, I'd say, I'd say the last 3 tracks on our podcast today, 3, 4, and 5, Sudan Archives, Madison Cunningham, and Daniel Caesar.

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Alternate Line: really sonically are great to listen to. I know that's a stupid… I know that's a fairly stupid thing to say, there's obviously some music that's, like…

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Alternate Line: That is difficult to listen to, for whatever reason, you know, like…

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Alternate Line: death metal or something like that. It can be just challenging to listen to because of its volume, or how compressed it can be, can sometimes be a… can be a challenge to hear. But these… these three tracks are really, really, really lush, so hopefully you enjoyed Sudan Archives and Madison Cunningham.

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Alternate Line: And here's Daniel Caesar with… Baby blue.

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Alternate Line: There we go.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: They be blue. I'm privileged to know you.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And from this point on, your delight is my delight.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I like your eyes, they sparkle.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You found me in a dark hole, but now I know you're my life You oversee Don't love me.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It's true. The heavens abode, they so choose.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I'm glad you pre-write it.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It's my own.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Thank you. Be assured.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So many… Islands to choose from.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You chose blue.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: to choose from.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I choose you.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Baby poo, baby poo… Some days I feel plot too

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: But whenever I look at you And when in Don't you call Shall rise on occasion.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: To the occasion… It's worth my time.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: This is yours.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Goodbye!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: inside.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So I'm waiting.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: So many… Islands to choose from.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I choose you.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Jesus paid for all our sins.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Every cross, He blessed.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And time… Is there greater love than this?

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: deserve this love, this awesome love to me.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Can you feel His love?

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Alternate Line: Wow.

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Alternate Line: Okay, so my challenge to you, Andrew.

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Alternate Line: It's for us to make it through this review without uttering the words Frank Ocean. Let's try.

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Alternate Line: Let's see what we can do.

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Alternate Line: Let's try.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, we'll try our best. I mean, yeah, we've talked a lot on the podcast about musicians operating in the post-blonde

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Andrew's iPhone: alternative R&B lanes, so, like, artists like Dijon, McGee, Bonnevere, Sampa.

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Andrew's iPhone: Blood Orange. I mean, these are artists that I really, really like. Yeah, same. We've talked about the influence that that sound is having on mainstream pop as well. Like, a few months ago, you'd messaged me asking if I'd heard the Justin Bieber track, Daisies.

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Andrew's iPhone: And you almost didn't have to say anything else, I kind of knew exactly what you were thinking, it's just like, yeah, this guy's heard McGee.

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Alternate Line: Yes. And he's adopting the sound, basically.

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean, I mean…

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Alternate Line: Bieber's good enough to actually get those guys on board, so McGee and Dijon are all over his most recent records, but yeah, it's a very kind of close-knit, incestuous group of artists as well, like…

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Andrew's iPhone: They're all kind of collaborating and showing up on each other's projects.

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Andrew's iPhone: Most recently on the podcast, we played the Blood Orange track, The Field, which, among several collaborators, featured Daniel Caesar.

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Andrew's iPhone: And all of those artists that I've mentioned.

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Andrew's iPhone: either a peer or a clear influence on this new Daniel Caesar album, which is called Son of Spurgy.

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Alternate Line: Yes.

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Andrew's iPhone: And I always think of, like, Daniel Caesar as being…

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Andrew's iPhone: less well known to the kind of wider public than those other artists. I don't know if that's perhaps unfair. I'd seen that he's got 38 million monthly listeners on Spotify, so he's clearly done okay.

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Alternate Line: take it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'd take it. And, I know the vinyl runs of his records regularly sell out and go for good money, so he has got a fan base, and maybe some of those listeners come from.

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Alternate Line: you know, the kind of features that he does as well, I'm not sure, but… but yeah, he equally has, kind of listenership as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So his debut from 2017 was called Freudian.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which was a good record, and it kind of saw him blending classic and contemporary R&B with gospel.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it was him, kind of, reflecting on… on the, kind of, the dichotomy of, kind of, growing up in the church, but also being very horny a lot of the time, and the, kind of, the desire that he had for, kind of, romantic love, at the time.

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Andrew's iPhone: So that was.

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Alternate Line: You thought it was a pussy palace? Pussy palace?

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Alternate Line: It was a church, church, church.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, so he kind of had all that going on in that debut, and then he's had a couple of records where he was kind of going in a more kind of beat-driven, production-led direction.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he presented this new album as a kind of back-to-basics, so he chilled the album by… what he would do, he'd drop his location on Instagram, with no notice.

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Andrew's iPhone: just kind of minutes notice, basically, in Toronto, or Montreal, or Vancouver.

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Andrew's iPhone: Los Angeles, Atlanta, and he would just appear and play to whoever was there, so he'd play just him and a guitar, and a speaker, and a microphone.

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Andrew's iPhone: So that's kind of how he's chosen to, yeah, kind of…

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, introduced this album, basically, so he's kind of in that kind of mindset, it's a kind of reset.

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Andrew's iPhone: If you like, and it's named, for the nickname of his gospel singer father.

625
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Andrew's iPhone: Who's also a pastor, so he's called Norwell Simmons.

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Andrew's iPhone: So… So yeah, so son of Asperger is a moment for Caesar to…

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Andrew's iPhone: It says, recalibrate after years of whirlwind success. So he's kind of returning home.

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Andrew's iPhone: he's trying to, kind of, reconcile and reconnect with his family. Apparently, like, on record, he's actually, kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: been quite disparaging towards his dad in the past. Here he's trying to kind of reconcile that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he's trying to kind of explore

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Andrew's iPhone: His faith, the role the church has played in his life.

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Andrew's iPhone: As well as addressing some of the self-doubt that he has, so there's, like…

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Alternate Line: I mean, he literally does that by just having his dad sing the outro of the song as well. Yeah, exactly, yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so yeah, so there's that kind of stuff going on. He talks about his kind of self-doubt.

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Andrew's iPhone: And he also talks about… Thoughts of starting a family of his own.

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Andrew's iPhone: So all these kind of references are in there. There's a track called, Have a Baby With Me.

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Andrew's iPhone: Which, no matter how kind of smooth you are, I think that's a sentiment that's quite hard to make. Yeah. Not icky or not creepy, and he just doesn't pull off.

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Andrew's iPhone: unfortunately, it just kind of makes me think of, Natasha Bedingfield's, What Have Your Babies? It's that kind of thing. So, yeah, so there's kind of moments… there's really quite kind of lush, kind of, I'd say almost kind of divine moments, like this track.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then there's… there's those kind of stripped-back moments, like our,

640
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.349
Andrew's iPhone: Have a baby with me that…

641
01:26:06.860 --> 01:26:24.889
Andrew's iPhone: That don't quite work. And it's not a short album, it's about 52 minutes, which suggests that there's kind of something of your kind of substance and importance to say. This kind of big revelation or grand statement is going to arrive, and all the kind of themes are going to be tied together in some way, but it just never quite does.

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Andrew's iPhone: Unfortunately, for me as an album, but…

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Andrew's iPhone: on a kind of song-by-song basis, it does have these really, really good moments, so I would say this is a strong moment on the record.

644
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Alternate Line: I'd say so too, and you know, if I might just take a minute to, spool it apart a little bit. So, I guess the star of the show here is…

645
01:26:46.350 --> 01:26:50.669
Alternate Line: Daniel's voice, his vocal performance here is just so…

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Alternate Line: gentle, and impassioned, and smooth, throughout. It's just… it's just a joy. It really is a joy to listen to. Yeah. And the track starts, with a little… with a little sound effect. I'm gonna do something I almost never do. I'm just gonna give 2 seconds of that, so back to the start.

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Alternate Line: And that, that little, it's almost like a sort of sample from, like, Street Fighter or something like that. That little 8-bit sound palette actually appears at a few crucial moments throughout the song.

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01:27:26.430 --> 01:27:35.139
Alternate Line: And it sounds great. It makes such a lot of sense in this track, for some reason. Other wee highlights, I would say, is when the song gets into,

649
01:27:35.790 --> 01:27:37.830
Alternate Line: More, like, the sort of,

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Alternate Line: you know, when it develops and there's more, sort of, full band, you know, I don't know if it's… I don't know what kind of, band performances that there is here, but you've got some really Beatles-y drum and bass patterns up here,

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Alternate Line: Which, again, is like that artist whose name I'm not going to mention again, you know, things that sound like White Ferrari or something like that. There's a definite crossover between these two. It's cinematic as a track, it's widescreen, it's beautiful, and then, you know, the strings swell.

652
01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:19.949
Alternate Line: And then you're just sort of, like, you're just thinking about, you know, what I am anyway, like, what does this all mean, and…

653
01:28:20.230 --> 01:28:24.410
Alternate Line: how good this sounds, and then his father's, like, really devotional…

654
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:38.809
Alternate Line: religious lyrics and singing appear at the end, and it's a little bit like this. This has become quite a popular song structure these days, of just sort of taking disparate elements and just slamming them together.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: You know, and I guess the… the big obvious example of that is, like, Sickle Mode by Travis Scott, where you've just got, like, essentially, like, three mini tracks jammed together. So, to an extent, that's kind of what he's doing here. He's got the baby blue track, and then he's got his father's vocal, sort of attached on the end.

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Alternate Line: into a… for a lot of purposes, you might just say, well, it doesn't actually make sense. Like, what's the…

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Alternate Line: connection between the two things, and this is one of those… and I'm glad this is the last track, because I think it's a perfect coda to the Lily Allen track. This is one where when you actually know what it is, who is the singer.

659
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Alternate Line: At the end, what is the relationship with Daniel Caesar? Not only does it make it make sense, it actually makes it…

660
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Alternate Line: emotive and powerful, you know, and if you're a religious person, maybe you hear those lyrics and they impact on you in a certain way, but, you know, it becomes very genuine and very heartfelt, and you hear, you know, you've said… publicly has said, you know.

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Alternate Line: difficult things about his father and so on, and now it's a sort of reconciliatory…

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: move, and he's, like I said to you later on, he's literally doing it by putting him on the track, so…

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Alternate Line: So yeah, I just… I haven't listened to the full record, I'll take your word for it that it isn't quite so cohesive as a whole album piece.

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01:30:05.100 --> 01:30:08.469
Alternate Line: But this is a really good piece of music to listen to, for sure, this track.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it is a really gorgeous track. I think that's just one of the kind of frustrating things for me, like, because there's, like, so much thought, again, that's been kind of put into this track.

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Andrew's iPhone: It suggests that the whole album's gonna have

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Andrew's iPhone: That kind of… that think-through, you know, and it…

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm thinking about the way that, kind of, Kendrick uses, the poem in To Pimp a Buttfly, you know, as a kind of, like, a kind of connective tissue throughout the album.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's… there's references to gospel music, and references to his dad at certain points, and then it'll just… it's almost like he forgets about it for…

671
01:30:46.850 --> 01:30:55.080
Andrew's iPhone: four or five tracks, and then… and then… yeah, so I just kind of wish that… for me, I kind of wished that that was kind of planted through the whole album.

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Andrew's iPhone: Just to kind of make it more satisfying, as a full album, but…

673
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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, there's obviously a lot of skill going on here.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I do really enjoy this track.

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01:31:10.940 --> 01:31:15.099
Andrew's iPhone: I do just wonder, maybe, like, whether Daniel Caesar has…

677
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Andrew's iPhone: As much of a kind of, distinctive

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Andrew's iPhone: fingerprint as some of those other artists that we've mentioned. You know, I think, like, pretty much all of those, like McGee, Dijon, Bonavir, Sampa, Blood Orange, The Blonde Guy, they all have a thing where you could say, yeah, that's what they do.

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm not sure that Daniel Caesar has that, necessarily. You know, something that's really kind of unique that he's bringing to the party, but… Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's no denying that he's a very talented guy.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's much to like about this track and the album as well. So, yeah.

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Alternate Line: It's kind of the… it's kind of the… the curse of the… of the…

684
01:31:53.200 --> 01:31:58.970
Alternate Line: of the A&R man of the past, you know, the tastemakers and all that sort of stuff, it's just sort of…

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Alternate Line: some of the… well, the blonde guy, Frank, right, is really a trailblazer, I would say. You know, I don't remember listening to anything before…

686
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Alternate Line: Planet Orange, and thinking, you know.

687
01:32:12.400 --> 01:32:24.090
Alternate Line: Well, that's what that is, that's exactly like that. You know, it's just… it's kind of new, and kind of old at the same time, and pretty unique, I would say. And then what happens is, you know.

688
01:32:24.200 --> 01:32:33.779
Alternate Line: the people who are promoting music go, what else is like that? And that's how you end up with this proliferation of similar, similar artists. It's not because

689
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Alternate Line: there's some zeitgeist moment of, you know, oh, there's… now just everyone who's making music is just all sounding like this. It's not that. There's millions and millions of tracks out there, it's just that the people who are the tastemakers, I guess, are now, like, cherry-picking out the things that they go, oh, you like this? Well, try these! You know, it's that… it's that

690
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:57.320
Alternate Line: Which is kind of… cynical. But I think,

691
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Alternate Line: Life would be slightly worse if we hadn't listened to Baby Play by Daniel Caesar.

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01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:09.579
Alternate Line: To put it… to put it bluntly. So yeah, so thinking across our five, our five tracks today.

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01:33:10.010 --> 01:33:13.279
Alternate Line: It's a pretty, kind of, like, unusual,

694
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Alternate Line: playlist in some ways, because it's, there's some… some truly, truly hateful stuff on here that I…

695
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Alternate Line: genuinely dislike. And then you, like, really sweetened me up with the latter half.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

697
01:33:27.260 --> 01:33:33.979
Alternate Line: Because the, the, the put song earlier on… is that even how I say that? Let me check my notes again.

698
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Alternate Line: putt-putt, putt-putt song earlier on. It's interesting, but it's, to me, ultimately not a… not a massively satisfying song. And then you hit me with a 1, 2, 3 punch of… of…

699
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Alternate Line: really bloody good songs, so… so it's, so yeah, it's really, really good. All that, and a bucket of Vindaloo, so there we go.

700
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Alternate Line: Finish us off. Right, so, I don't know where to finish. Will I finish with, Reek? Rhymes with Meek? You know, that's our brother, obviously, from Game of Thrones. Anyway, that's an aside. So, we've reached the end of our new music section of the show, haven't we, Andrew? Nothing else to say, is there?

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Andrew's iPhone: No, I think you've covered it. You've nailed it.

702
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Alternate Line: Yep.

703
01:34:21.890 --> 01:34:30.280
Alternate Line: No, I've nailed it. Okay, I move on. Alright, so we're going to talk about our final, segment now, which is where Andrew, in his real life.

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Alternate Line: in his real room, there he is, with unnamed record equipment that he just sort of has behind him, pulls down something from his actual shelves, and makes a connection, sometimes really a close connection, sometimes a bit looser, but also always helps us think about what I've listened to today. So, we call this, we segment, The Vinyl Word, and you may well be thinking to yourself.

705
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Alternate Line: Hey, I've enjoyed this music podcast so much this week, that I would like to send them, some… some money in the form of coffee. Well, you can do that! Just go to www.buymycoffee.com slash

706
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Alternate Line: We heard wonders, and we'll just put it onto the ongoing running costs of our lovely little show here.

707
01:35:16.420 --> 01:35:23.509
Alternate Line: Where Athletic Andrew and… Rustic Ruth and, Kill of Keith, I've forgotten what they're all called.

708
01:35:25.200 --> 01:35:32.740
Alternate Line: And, Indigenous Ian, I don't know, that's the best I could do for myself. Yeah, so, Andrew, the vinyl works, what have we got?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, thank you. So yeah, so, thinking about Madison Cunningham, so last year, Madison Cunningham and her regular collaborator, Andrew Byrd.

710
01:35:43.590 --> 01:35:46.280
Andrew's iPhone: released an album called Cunningham Birth.

711
01:35:46.710 --> 01:35:51.239
Andrew's iPhone: Which was a full album reimagining of Buckingham Knicks.

712
01:35:51.790 --> 01:35:57.039
Andrew's iPhone: The 1973 LP by Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks.

713
01:35:57.330 --> 01:36:00.880
Andrew's iPhone: Recorded before they both joined Fleetwood Mac.

714
01:36:01.260 --> 01:36:11.410
Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, an interesting, and I'm assuming coincidental timing, the cover album dropped mere months ahead of the announcement that after

715
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Andrew's iPhone: five decades of bootlegs and people thinking that it would never happen, we finally got an official reissue of Buckingham Knicks.

716
01:36:20.460 --> 01:36:24.880
Andrew's iPhone: And so the physical reissue finally came out in September.

717
01:36:25.780 --> 01:36:28.890
Andrew's iPhone: And another thing that people thought would never happen

718
01:36:29.110 --> 01:36:34.679
Andrew's iPhone: was that Buckingham, Buckingham and Nick's, or Buckham's, speaking terms,

719
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Andrew's iPhone: So that also appears to be the case. They were on a podcast recently dissecting the track Frozen Love from the album.

720
01:36:41.970 --> 01:36:45.419
Andrew's iPhone: And it's led to rumours… pardon the pun.

721
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Andrew's iPhone: The remaining members of Fleetwood Mac might one day get back together for another tour.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so anybody that doesn't know the album, Buckingham Knicks, it's a really great record.

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Andrew's iPhone: one of those albums that, for anyone that was kind of lucky enough to track down a copy, always kind of felt like a treat, like a kind of, like… just like an extension of that slick AOR synergy that they brought to…

724
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Andrew's iPhone: The 1975 self-titled Fleetwood Mac record, and Rumours as well.

725
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:26.559
Andrew's iPhone: And, yeah, now everybody gets a chance to enjoy it. So yeah, so I've chosen to play this out this week with, Frozen Love, that track that they…

726
01:37:27.070 --> 01:37:37.719
Andrew's iPhone: they chose to ease the reissue with, by posting lyrics to this track, and Mick Fleetwood also posted a video saying.

727
01:37:38.090 --> 01:37:46.259
Andrew's iPhone: That it's all in this song, it's in the music that played on for so many years, it's magic then, magic now, what a thrill.

728
01:37:46.450 --> 01:37:47.950
Andrew's iPhone: That was, that was more stuff.

729
01:37:48.050 --> 01:37:50.160
Andrew's iPhone: So yeah, so I thought that could play us out this week.

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Alternate Line: I do like Mick Fleetwood.

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Alternate Line: I think overall, a good egg, and very tall. So there we go. Right guys, so all that's left for us to do is say…

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Alternate Line: See you next week, see you down the road.

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Andrew's iPhone: See you soon, guys.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: You may not be as strong as me

735
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And I'm in our care to teach you

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: It may be hard to keep up with me.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I'll always be able to reach you And if you go… Oh, no, no!

738
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: How many twins!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: If you cry!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Don't freezing there!

741
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And below you!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Such a…

743
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Yeah, the change was… Oh, beginning!

744
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And over… Happy Buh!

745
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Oh, lover.

746
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And if you go forward I'll meet you there!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Freezing it And annoying you!

748
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Sit down.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Fourth row.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: B is strong.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: energy.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: In my mirror.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: And where you go?

754
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: I'll meet you there?

755
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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Freezing it!

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Capital.

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Audio shared by Alternate Line: Such out of the…