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Miles & Mountains
Jose Garcia: Ultra Running to Weightlifting
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Listen to how a dedicated runner shifts gears and picks up a barbell? Join us as we catch up with Jose Garcia, who shares his transformative journey from ultra running to weightlifting. With a newborn on the way, Jose's life has been a whirlwind of change, and he opens up about how his "sabbatical" turned into a period of intense physical transformation. He talks his adventures, including a competitive ultra run with his girlfriend Melissa, and the fascinating changes in his training and eating habits.
Finally, we dive into the challenges of being a hybrid athlete, combining weightlifting with running. Get ready to bust some myths as Jose and our hosts discuss the misconception that you can't do both. Hear about the importance of hydration, especially when incorporating sauna sessions into the routine, and the temptations of unhealthy habits. The episode wraps up with personal stories, fitness goals, and the excitement of an expanding family. Don't miss this engaging and inspiring conversation that highlights the essence of resilience, dedication, and the power of supportive friendships.
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Jose Garcia, how are you?
Speaker 3man. Good, how are you it's?
Speaker 2been a minute. It's been a minute, man, it's been a minute. Dude, it's been what? Almost a year since I saw you at the Backyard Ultra.
Speaker 3Yeah, back in September, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2And then you know know you were gone, took a sabbatical yeah, not much of vacation though, dude, not much of vacation. But you know people knew because I, you know, speak highly of you and respect you and just wish the best. You know, I know you were going through some tough times and everything else, and uh was just waiting, dude like hey how's?
Speaker 1it going, how's it going, how's it going and nothing flatline.
Speaker 2And then I saw you at the backyard ultra and yeah, and then I was like whoa, dude, you're back. Yeah, you know I'm not your lady. Yeah, congrats you're expecting.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm having a newborn soon.
Speaker 2I'm here, with my girlfriend, there you go. No partner language in here, man Okay.
Speaker 3So she's right here too, so she's coming up in 30 weeks. Want to say hi, hello, yeah.
Speaker 2So shout out to Melissa Well, congrats guys, congrats Any day now. Is this your first yes, okay, any day now, any day, hopefully. Is this your first yes, okay, have fun, have fun. No, they change your world, you'll find out real quick. That's what I hear yeah, real quick.
Speaker 3Yeah, humble, you too yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, they do Jeez, jeez.
Speaker 3So, jose, yeah, Humble you too.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, they do Jeez, jeez, so Jose.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2You're on, man, because, dude, I've just been wanting you on. But, dude, like I want to talk about your regimen. When you left, man, when you had that sabbatical and you know you're all or nothing, dude, you're go big, go home or go home. You know you're all or nothing, dude, you're go big, go home or go home. You know, but, dude, you got big, like literally and figuratively, Dude, you got big overnight. And when you left and you were like man, I'm lifting weights, I'm like man, this guy, this guy is going to go big because you ain't going to be able to run, you ain't going to be able to do cardio, one of your cardio, uh, uh, on strava or whatever you had. Yeah, you had something and all you did was go on a square. For what? Uh?
Speaker 250k yeah and a fob dude. Yeah, she, uh, she did it too, so you did it too. Yeah, so what?
Speaker 3happened is. So she melissa came up with the idea because she's an ultra runner too and she's done a lot of ultra runs and um uh, so she did it first, and then I I don't even know, I forgot what your time was. But then I was like I can beat that. Yeah, it was a good time. And so me and her got really competitive and so I did it and I'm like well, hey, I just want to do it because I beat you.
Speaker 1You beat me by like 15 minutes.
Speaker 3Okay, yeah, I beat her by like 15 minutes, but I also hadn't run at all, since I had left, yeah, and run at all since, since, like, I have left, yeah. So I just wanted to see if, also, if I still could do it, and do it in, you know, 90 degree weather yeah yeah yeah, yeah, well, 90 degree weather, that's okay, you're used to it here.
Speaker 2Yeah, especially the stuff that you were doing. I you know it's mental and pretty much muscle memory. But dude, muscle. Now, when I would say, go big or go home, dude, like when you said you're lifting the weights, I'm like, dude, this guy, since he ain't going to be doing cardio, he's going to be lifting the weights. And then, lo and behold, when you finally got onto social media, man, you're a different person, you're massive.
Speaker 3That's what I hear.
Speaker 2You're humble man and I know it sounds weird that you know some guys, like you know, saying dude, you're big Bro Jose. You used to be one person. Dude, you're double bro, you're double bro Jose. Like, do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 3Dude, yeah, I started lifting a lot of weights.
Speaker 2That's an understatement. Okay, melissa, am I wrong? I see he's looking at you, you're looking at him and I'm just like dude this guy. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1No, when we met he was you're like 180 pounds and there's a. There's a picture of us at the beginning of deployment where we're like running around in a rainstorm pretty much, and they're like you're a lot smaller in that picture. And then you look at at even the videos from the end of deployment, it's like your eight-year-old self.
Speaker 2Dude, I'm telling you. So she said 180. What are you sitting right now? And just seriously, what do you? Because you don't look bad, dude, you look like you power lift.
Speaker 3The last time I weighed myself was like a week ago and I was like 219 okay all right um, I ended up putting like 30 pounds when just like starting lifting and eating a lot of food yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2What's your intake right now? Caloric intake a day.
Speaker 3Do you count? I don't, I just Just eat whatever I just if I'm hungry, I eat and I work out.
Speaker 2Okay, what got you into that dude? I know freaking treadmills or dreadmills, they have them, they have a lot of them, but I know it sucks after a while. You can only do so much. So what made you go from miles to dude die hard lifting weights? Let's get big well what's that boredom?
Speaker 3boredom was one of them. And then, um, since I wasn't able, I knew I wasn't gonna be able to run as much as I wanted to anymore. Um, I was honestly a good friend of mine um, I'll just use his full name, brady plunger. He's a good buddy of mine. He deployed with me and way younger dude than I was super athletic and he was just a really young 20-year-old trying to show me up, yeah, and he was in my team, and so me and him became we clicked right away and we became really good friends. And we became really good friends and so me and him started lifting a lot together and throughout the whole year that I was gone, me and him were always lifting, just going at it and pushing each other, yeah, and so, um, he was younger than me and so I was trying to keep up with him, yeah, um, as far as like lifting weights and cardio and everything, and so I was just trying to stay in shape really and trying to do something proactive and not Okay.
Speaker 2Do you guys still talk? Talk regimen what?
Speaker 3Um, me and him, do we still talk? Yeah, I just talked to him yesterday. He um he's working as a police officer right now in Montana. Okay, Um he just started. He has some. He has some wild stories, but we still talk as far as regimen.
Speaker 3No, he, uh, we don't talk as much anymore. But I know when we our last talk to him yesterday, he was still working out a lot and he just asked me what I was doing and it's kind of like one of those things where we're just trying to like keep each other motivated did you ever think if you got into weights you know as much as you did it would?
Speaker 2uh, your running would suffer uh because I remember talking to you. You said no, it's not gonna. But I'm like dude, it's a huge difference.
Speaker 3You start lifting weights, man, it is tough to move it around yeah, I felt it a lot when I did that 50k that you were just talking about the ultra. Yeah, the ultra. Or no, not the backyard or the one in the fob, the one in the fob, yeah, at the base, because I was 30 pounds heavier, yeah, and I could feel, physically feel, that I was heavier. Yeah, and like every step just felt odd, right? Yeah, it just felt odd running, having it 30 extra pounds and running okay.
Speaker 2So going from before you left, man, you go to altopia and just do your loop or your out and backs and everything else and you killed it right, even badger mountain 100. You killed it right prior to you leaving. Did you ever think, oh, I did too much. Did you ever think that you know you're never going to go back into running like you did?
Speaker 3No, I never thought that I wasn't going to go back into running. I just knew it was going to be an adjustment. Adjustment.
Speaker 3Yeah, it was going to be an adjustment. Adjustment, yeah, because now I don't know what happened over there, but my knees are kind of messed up now, and so now I feel like every morning when I wake up my knees are just messed up, snap, crackle, pop, yeah, and it could have been from working or working out in the gym or I don't know, yeah, but now my knees are just not the same, and it could be age too, I guess, but I'm only 30.
Speaker 2Right, and so Well dude, you got an upper body, bro. Yeah, it's stacked man. People are going to listen to this and be like dude, nick, just shush man. But dude, you are a total different person man.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean even like touching it right now, like my knee, like it hurts. Is it the cartilage?
Speaker 2Or lack thereof.
Speaker 3In between, like in the middle of the knee, oh, okay.
Speaker 2So you probably don't have any.
Speaker 3Yeah, and I've also had a lot of injuries in the past that I just never did anything about it, so it could just be you the past that I just never, yeah, did anything about it. So it could just be you're getting them looked at. No, uh, and here you are thinking about going ocs, is that still up there? Are you gonna do it, man?
Speaker 3yeah, I've been um, so I'm doing it through the guard and so, yeah, it's every month and so, yeah, I'm still doing it, and so, part of the process, I don't I don't want to right now, I don't want to say what my, that I have injuries, because then I'll disqualify exactly okay. So as long as it's not too, as long as it doesn't get too serious, then I'll I'll just stay quiet, but if it gets, to the point where it's like, because I still work out, I still run right and it's fine.
Speaker 3it's like the, the pre-warm up, where I'm like oh, this sucks, yeah, so you gotta warm up.
Speaker 2You gotta warm up. Yeah, welcome to old age man. Alright, so it's a weekend thing still.
Speaker 3Yeah, so it's a.
Speaker 2You're not going to like Jackson, or what is it now?
Speaker 3Where am I going? North Dakota, North Dakota oh okay, we're in North Dakota this summer. Okay, Because it's to the guard. It's like a year-long process.
Speaker 2Okay, so they don't stick you with active OCS.
Life in the Military Reserve
Speaker 3You can. You can apply for it, but I was told that it's a numbers thing. Oh, okay, they have to have a certain number of guard people in the schoolhouse and right now they don't have enough. Like we have three people quit already. Oh wow, and so I'm one of the oldest there, okay. And so they were like hey, this is what they told me. They were like, hey, like you're the most experienced guy we have and we don't want to lose you.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 3And so I was asking them to go the federal way, which was the fast track, the active duty way, yep, and they basically said it's a numbers thing, you're the most experienced guy here and we don't want to lose you.
Speaker 2Did they throw a bunch of money at you?
Speaker 3No, I wish. I mean. So we're there as volunteers. You know we were volunteers to do this and so, yeah, I'm just doing the process, but numbers do.
Speaker 2They see you as a number. You can see that as a number.
Speaker 3I mean it only works one way in the military.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I know I know, I mean you know. Yeah, yeah. So when you do do that right, you're going to go active.
Speaker 3No, can you go active? I mean I can, I can go active, but just the way my family situation and life is going on right now, there's no chance or, yeah, there's no way I can make that work. Okay, yeah, so it'll be in the reserve guard side of things, okay, and happy. Yes.
Speaker 2Yeah, melissa, you still in.
Speaker 1Am. I so what Still in?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3She has bigger plans.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, all right, we won't talk about it though, all right, man. Number one question. I've talked to you before, natty. Is that natural? Yeah, it's natural.
Speaker 3Natural.
Speaker 1Okay, all right.
Speaker 2Okay, and you only ate one meal a day?
Speaker 3So, yeah, we were in different countries and so when we got to Syria, we were in a smaller base with smaller people.
Speaker 2MREs no, no.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 1There was a market there and there was there was a defect there a military.
Speaker 2A good one. No, you're like no and she's like no. We were in different parts.
Speaker 3I was in. I was in Northern Syria, close, closest to the border, and she was in. I was more like Southeast.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was more like.
Speaker 3Southeast.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Southeastern Syria, and so she was in a different base than I was.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3Hers was a lot more ghetto, oh yeah, than mine, ours. When we left, they were trying to turn it into an actual like a base. Oh okay and so, but the one she was at it was, I don't know what to call it. Right, she knows what to call it.
Speaker 2She knows what to call it. Yeah, I got you a shithole yeah, it's okay what she, yeah, yeah, what she said, yeah yeah, okay, but when you ate, did you stick to a certain meal or a substance like um?
Speaker 3so I mean you could order food and I had and prior to us leaving going to Syria, we shipped Me and my buddy Brady, we shipped a bunch of food there so that we could have food there. And then I also had my family send over food like protein powders and-.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, like stuff that you're going to miss? Yeah, but then over there if you wanted to eat actual meals, you either had to cook it yourself or just buy it from the market or the cafeteria. Okay, but it wasn't great, and certain hours you could only order between certain hours. Gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's one cafeteria trying to feed.
Speaker 3However, many soldiers there are there, and then if you're working, sometimes you only have time to eat just once. You don't gotcha, and so sometimes I, only I would only eat once so so, when you majority of your meals consisted of what? Uh, chicken rice, and uh, what do they?
Speaker 2call it the tort like tortilla. Those things are good, man, especially over there. Pretty much stick to what doesn't make you sick.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3Yeah, Once I found what didn't make me sick because it's like locals cooking the food then I just stuck to that.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3It was basically chicken and rice.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3All right?
Speaker 2Do you think you'll ever go back to running like you were?
Speaker 3That's what I'm trying to do right now. Yeah, I've been slowly trying to get back into running. When I first started, I remember when I talked to you I was like I haven't run like five miles.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3It's like I don't know I forgot what I said to you, but I just started running again in December, december, and I've been like slowly and slowly, just trying to progress.
Speaker 2And you're still lifting.
Speaker 3And I'm still lifting as heavy as you were. Yeah, well, heavier Okay.
Speaker 2Heavier now. So you're a hybrid athlete now.
Speaker 3Yeah, I guess I athlete now.
Speaker 2Um like, yeah, I guess. No, you are. You are um certain people can pull that off. Dude, not a lot of people can pull it off.
Speaker 3It's, it's. It's been a challenge I've um, it's hard to try to lift hard and then go for a run. Yeah, and vice versa, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, you think that will get in the way.
Speaker 3It's in the way now. Yeah, I mean it's just the time management, and then life gets busy and kids get busy and work, so you just have to make time for it.
Speaker 2So give me a workout man that you do on a regular basis. Let's say, lift and run. What? What do you do for how long in the gym and then going for a run? How? How long is your run? Like a 5k, five miles?
Speaker 3yeah, right now I'm running like three, four times a week and like I'm trying to keep the same regimen that I did before deployment Like I would run like three, four times a week On the weekends, I would do a long run.
Speaker 2Yeah, you would do more runs, though this guy was an animal.
Speaker 3This guy was an animal. I was running every day, yeah, like seven, ten miles a day, but I mean that was a while ago and I'm trying to build back to something that's sustainable with trying to also lift weights. But yeah, like I said, right now I'm running like three, four times a week and same with lifting in the gym for like an hour and a half. Two hours are the longest.
Speaker 2If you had to pick, which one do you like the most man?
Speaker 3So I've always lifted. I lifted a lot in high school.
Speaker 2I did too In college, man, and it's taken me years just to get the broad shoulders out and out of the way For real.
Speaker 3Yeah, I lifted a lot in high school. I did powerlifting. I almost went to a competition in high school for lifting, for powerlifting, but then I just stopped because I got into ultra running. And the myth was that you couldn't do both Stuff.
Speaker 2Stuff.
Speaker 3The myth was like if you lift a lot then you can't run. Like that was the myth back then and now it's the other way. It's like it actually helps you with your running if you're lifting and running, yeah, but you know, but I'm trying to maintain the same muscle mass and and that's hard it is.
Speaker 2I mean, do you got caloric intake? I mean you got to make sure things work in between the joints and stuff like that, man god yeah, and I'm not doing it the right way at all.
Speaker 3I don't think I'm just. I'm just she's like when's the last time you drank water?
Speaker 2and I'm like I don't know what you're not drinking water, what are you drinking, and so?
Speaker 3uh soda pop, uh juice okay drink some more water, man. It's the season soon, dude, you don't want to do this yeah, and then because, like the other day, I went to the because I I go to the gym and then I'll go to the sauna after the gym and it gets to like 200 in there and and I was like wasn't feeling well that night and she said, well, did you have any water? I was like, no, I haven't had any water today. And it was. And I've always been that way though.
Speaker 2Yeah, even when I was running a lot of ultras, I that was the hardest part was to drink water yeah, yeah, I find myself doing that too, especially like a, you know, after a run in the heat or in the cold and whatever man, I always make sure if I don't have to drink water, I don't, I don't have to drink water but man, I have to like force it down the throats, man.
Speaker 2And so, like my go-to is seven up the safe bet, let's say like the safest bet, you know, and then Coke Zero dude that's, that's legit man. That's legit stuff.
Speaker 3I like it yeah, and it didn't I also. When I was gone to the poem, I picked up smoking and chugging a little bit. Oh, you did oh gosh no, I haven't. I haven't smoked since you're gonna have like cigar night every now and then.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, no, I haven't smoked since.
Speaker 3I would have like cigar night every now and then. Yeah, and then I would smoke with the locals. I would smoke with them sometimes.
Speaker 2Some good stuff, good tobacco, over there.
Speaker 3It was just like it's different.
Speaker 1Cigars would get sent to us from.
Speaker 3Cigars for warriors. Yeah, cigars for warriors.
Speaker 1So like if you applied to that program they would send you like a big bag of cigars.
Speaker 2Okay, dang, but you hit up Dip. Oh man, do you Zen now? Well, it wasn't, it was both actually.
Speaker 3No, I don't do any of that now. I don't do any of that now. I stopped like, yeah, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, I did have a cigar a couple weeks ago, yeah.
Speaker 2But let's just Every now and then it's good. Yeah, Every now and then when you're just relaxing and just wanting to taste it. Yeah, yeah, relax, yeah. So what you been doing, man, since you've been back Making babies, hanging with the lady working, yeah, all that.
Speaker 3And then I have two other girls and so I'm spending time with them as well, but that's basically it and just trying to figure out what's my next steps. What is your next step?
Speaker 2Have you thought of it? You don't have to. What is your next step? Have you thought of it? You don't have to say it now, but like, have you thought of it?
Speaker 3and as far as, um running goes just yes, the active lifestyle yes running. Uh, yeah, we I want to do um. So my first ultra will probably just be in, like the summer sometime, by myself, and then I'll probably do Jason's backyard ultra in September.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2The sole survivor.
Speaker 3But yeah, the sole survivor one, Because he always puts up good races, yeah, and, but I probably won't go as hard because what I really want to do is, at the end of the September there's a 50 miler in East and like it's like clealum area oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's called like ultra fest, something.
Speaker 3Okay, it's a 50 miler and it's like super flat, it's a really flat course. It's not the yeti, is it? No, no, it's called. They renamed this. It's called ultra fest. Now it was called something. It was was called Super Series, something, okay, and now it's called Ultra Fest. Okay, and it's an ultra sign up. And you're going to do it fast. No, no, no, my goal is just to finish it, yeah.
Speaker 3And so that's what I want to do as far as running goes and at the same time, try to keep lifting as much as I can.
Speaker 2When do you think we can go back out there and do an adventure Not a Prosser to my house adventure, but something you know.
Speaker 3Just out there we can do something smaller, for sure, yeah yeah, yeah, I'm trying to go to McBee now as much as I can. I hate that place.
Speaker 2Yeah, I hate it. Have you hit the roads out in the back back of McBee? Yeah?
Speaker 3Yeah, it's beautiful back there, dude. Yeah, we should.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, I love it back there, man, I never thought I'd like flat, but that's the flat I can take, man.
Speaker 3Yeah, I had my first welcome back to Ultra because I did a long run at McBee and I was texting her. I was like I think I'm having the running shits.
Speaker 2Dude McBee, always Everybody. I know man, yeah, you get the shits, dude.
Speaker 3Yeah, and I don't know whether there's not a. Anyways, I don't know whether there's not a porta potty there, but I was texting her and I was like, well, I don't know what to do, use your sock, sock. And so, luckily, I was just doing loops, yeah, and I found it's not. I don't recommend any of this to do, but it was. What are they called? Like those car cleaning wipes?
Speaker 2yeah, they used to clean your car oh my god, and so I went in there With armor all on, yeah, oh.
Speaker 3So I used that and I was like, well, we'll see what happens and I'm fine. No hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Well, that armor all will take care of that.
Speaker 3So that was like my. I started laughing because I was like oh, I forgot what this was like All right.
Outdoor Adventures and Fitness Goals
Speaker 2Well, welcome back, man Jeez, man, Jeez, Dude. It's wild to have you on. Man, it is dude, it is man. I appreciate you being on Well.
Speaker 3thanks for having me.
Speaker 2I mean, you were on what 30-something, and then 60, I think, and then I think you did a guest one with Hector, right? No, we were supposed to do one with Hector.
Speaker 3No, you did that one with Hector after a lot.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3He gave me a shout out.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's going to do Cocodona and I want him back on.
Speaker 3Well, he's doing it this year too. Yeah he's doing it in a couple days, yeah. And his buddy a couple of his buddies are going to do it with him.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's going to have pacers. Yeah, so you're part of the gang, man. So I'm just saying, dude, like you're the OG, and dude, you're representing man and you're finally back, and dude, I just can't believe it, man, yeah.
Speaker 3I can't believe it. Yeah Well, I was texting when I was gone.
Speaker 2I would text with Justin a lot, uh, okay, and I would ask him like, like, how are you? Because he lives a lot.
Speaker 3Oh, you seen that what he did in uh, over in europe, yeah, he's tearing it up, yeah, lifting those stones. Yeah, and how much he lifts and still runs, dude, crazy amount, crazy amounts you know, I met him right in person.
Speaker 2no, he's massive, Dude is massive, he's tall right, he's massive, Nicest big guy I've ever met dude. I met him in Ben man. We had coffee and stuff and man, it was dude he's yeah that's awesome Dude one hell of a guy man.
Speaker 3I haven't talked to him in a while, but I texted him on Instagram before deployment ended. I was like, hey, this is what I want to do Basically not exactly what he's doing, but I want to try to be a lifter and a runner. And he gave me some pointers. But I mean, it's time consuming.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is man, and seeing his transition, when he lifts, he lifts. He never broadcasts how much he runs until he starts running, but then when he starts running, that's all he talks about is run, and then when he goes back to lift, you don't hear anything about running, you just hear about lifting. So, yeah, there's a thing, man, and I don't know man, I've tried, tried, like the winter time, I start lifting, but I always run, you know, but I, it's just like the moment I start lifting, the moment I start feeling like, dude, I need to run, I'm gonna lose it. I'm gonna lose it, you know, and so it's difficult, man, but hopefully, hopefully, you find that balance, man, and found it hopefully.
Speaker 3Yeah, and our lives are going to get busier, yeah that baby's going to change. That's going to be a priority. Obviously You're going to gain baby weight.
Speaker 1You can gain all the money, right. Whatever, you're so tiny, I don't feel tiny.
Speaker 2For 38 weeks yeah.
Speaker 3Well, and we've talked me and Melissa have talked about doing old just together too. That's awesome man. She loves cycling, so she's cause, she's cycled the whole state of Idaho. Okay, before as well. Yep, north and south. Okay, north to south. Right, how right? How long do that?
Speaker 2well, you can talk about that six days six days, yeah, nice, okay, geez, all right, man, it's crazy. It's crazy and I need to get you on, just by yourself, yeah you should yeah, jose dude, you're done, you're done. You're og bro, i're OG bro.
Speaker 3I already know about you, man, I already know about you.
Speaker 3Yeah. So I'm just, I got lucky because we met in deployment. Yeah, we didn't know each other at all, even though she just grew up just down the road near Walla, walla, okay, and now she's my best friend. Best friend, yeah, and pregnant, right, jeez. And so that's what I plan to do is, by the end of the year I want to do that 50-modeler, and then my thought process is if I do it, then I can do the Badger with Jason for the 100 and see what happens. Because while I was gone I qualified for um hurt 100, yeah. But when I got back and I did that um uh, soul survivor, yeah, I was like I'm not ready, yeah, for that. And I remember telling her I was like I cannot, I can't do it what?
Speaker 2what made you do that? I know you the backyards, I know you the backyards, I know you love the backyards. That's how we met right. But for doing not so much cardio and then coming back and then let's go do backyard ultra every hour. You got to do for 4.2 miles.
Speaker 3What made me do that when I got back, yeah, Was it a dare Like I got back from that?
Speaker 2Yeah, I was. Was it a dare Like? Did you dare yourself? No, it just sounded fun Not doing cardio Dude, but you know the regimen man, you know what it takes On the hour. Every hour you got to do 4.2 miles in an hour. Yeah, it's not easy, it's not, and you found out the hard way.
Speaker 3And I found out the hard way because I only well, I did a 50K, but even though it didn't count because I didn't finish that last lap, but I still did a 50K Right, because that was my whole goal was like I'm going to do at least a 50K.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3But I hadn't trained up to it. Well, we did a 15-miler the weekend before in Walla Walla and they still joke about it she still does because in the middle of the run they had Red Bull Saturday Station, which was interesting. I've never seen that. And so I chugged one, oh man, because I didn't drink any water before that or the week or that week, and that was the only fluids I had. So I just chugged it and kept going did it save you? It? Did it for a while and then until the run ended, and I just I didn't. I felt like crap by the end of the run.
Speaker 2Yeah, what about mountains? Man, man, mountains, yeah, going to hit any.
Speaker 3Well I want to do. We tried when we got back from the appointment. We tried to do Asgard Pass Again.
Speaker 1But we started way too late.
Speaker 3We started yeah, we started the hike way too late in the day. Yeah, and the goal was just to go up and down.
Speaker 2You were going to go down that.
Speaker 3Yeah, after you. Well, when we went and it was late August, so there was no snow.
Speaker 2No snow, but that's bad too.
Speaker 3Well, I figured it would be easier.
Speaker 2Scree is not easier, man, it was be easier. Scree is not easier, man. Did you not see the the terrain when we went with there? There was snow and then there were scree, there was rocks and then snow, scree, yeah and uh.
Speaker 1So we didn't even make it like halfway and we were like we're not gonna make it yeah, we made it to the lake and then we made it up part of the pass and then, yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, we made it to the lake and then we made it up part of the pass.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, we made it. We didn't even make it halfway to Asgard Pass because it has those fake summits, Yep, and I knew there was going to be a fake summit. I was like I don't even think we're halfway and Melissa just called us. She's like we should probably go back.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was like yeah, you're probably right. You tell her about our adventure.
Speaker 3Yeah, she knows all about it.
Speaker 2Oh, that was great.
Speaker 3It's like probably one of my favorite adventures I've ever had. Yeah, but I would like to do something different. I just felt like I'm not experienced enough to to do like hood or or you know, like you've done hood, yeah, um, good times. It would be fun to do something like that okay, it's cold, man cold.
Speaker 2You done hood.
Speaker 1Uh no, you've done bora um I um I have done bora, and then I uh hiked to the uh top of the tallest mountain in Arizona.
Speaker 2Okay, humphreys, humphreys.
Speaker 1Peak, and then the highest peak in the Bitterroot Mountain Range.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Trapper Peak.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Yeah, I did that one by myself. That one was fun.
Speaker 2All right, man. Who's this lady? Yeah, you should have her on. Yeah, need to.
Speaker 3So she's more experienced than I am when it comes to climbing, I'm just a runner and I can yeah be. I'm just, I can just throw weight around and that's and that's all uh, you're more than that man, you're more than that dude, you're more than that um but and so yeah, that's for now, that's the goal for, as far as you know, running and athletics go.
Speaker 2So another through hike. You thinking about a through hike at the Enchantments.
Speaker 3I would like to do that this summer. I applied for that the lottery but I didn't get it.
Speaker 2No, so you just go all out, like we did last time.
Speaker 3Yeah, and so I'll probably do that. But I want to do it because when we did in the winter it was beautiful but, yeah, I've never seen it when there's no snow, so it would have to be till like august, september I think it would be tougher.
Speaker 2Yeah, it'll be. It'll be tough. It'll be tough to do um with less snow. Yeah, because we got away with a lot.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, that it was fun, but it was so much snow, yeah, and, and the water up there is just like I've told everybody how beautiful it is and how clear yeah yeah, um, but I want to see what it looks like without the snow. Okay, if there's ever no there, there's, there's.
Speaker 2That's the cool, I thought.
Speaker 3I've seen pictures on what's it called Ultra trails, or all trails, all trails, I thought. I've seen pictures where there's when there's no snow.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's a certain time period, but that's when all the bugs are out and that's when all that's busier.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, I don't like. Yeah, cause I don't like it? Yeah, because we and you got lucky too. We got there just in time to go right.
Speaker 2Somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, serious Jeez man.
Speaker 3It feels like it was just yesterday man, I know, but Prosser to Pasco or Richland, maybe next year.
Speaker 2Oh, you want to do that again, dude, I'm going to do. I was telling the wife I'm want to do that again, dude, I'm gonna do. I was telling the wife I'm gonna do an adventure this weekend. I've been doing a lot of those um because there's back roads.
Speaker 3You can do like pasco to walla walla.
Speaker 2Yeah, like that way you don't have to do them in the main highway. I did the burbank to press prescott. I've done that. I was gonna do date. I was gonna go to Dayton but I didn't finish. I wanted to, but I didn't.
Speaker 3How far is that?
Speaker 255 miles. Oh wow, I did it last Thanksgiving. Oh wow, that Friday by yourself, no, with Dan, oh, okay. And so, yeah, we went to Prescott. I was like okay, we're done, because he wasn't feeling so good and it was just like, dude, it's gonna take forever I haven't met him right. Yeah, no, no, no, ben you met Ben?
Speaker 3no, I know I bet yeah, but I couldn't remember if I haven't no, I've heard a lot about him, though he seems like a cool guy yeah, very cool guy.
Speaker 2and then, uh, I think this Saturday I think I'm gonna run to Harveston from my house. Okay, how far is that 33. It's uphill a bit and then all downhill. Man, that uphill sucks.
Speaker 3I could probably do 20 miles right now, but I'd be pushing it. Tell me, man.
Speaker 2I've been running from my house to other things because I've been so bored lately that I'll go from my house to other things. Because I've been so bored lately that I'll go from my house to somewhere and you know, I have my wife or my daughter pick me up, since she's driving age now. And so, like before Run with the Goats that weekend, I was like, hey, I'm just going to go run, good pizza. So I ran from here to Bombing Range, oh nice. And then the following week I did uh run with the goats. I didn't finish because I didn't want to. And then, um, just just recently, this past weekend, I uh ran the twilight 12 hour.
Speaker 3I was I was just killed to ask you about that.
Speaker 2Killed it, killed it. I'll kill it again next year, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 2I've only seen it, it's a loop, it's a loop man, a 2.3-mile loop, and you know. To put things in perspective, Ben brought up a good point that the 50-miler in Badger has 7,000 feet of elevation. Right Gain, the 50-mile in Badger has 7,000 feet of elevation gain.
Speaker 2The 50-mile does. The 50-mile does have 7,000. This when you're doing 30, you're doing 50K, it's 6,000. Oh wow. So it's a small loop and it's very deceiving. It's probably the toughest 50K anybody does. People that run it they're like oh yeah, we're going to get loopy. Dude, it's very deceiving. It's probably the toughest 50k anybody done. Has any anybody does. Yeah, people that run it. They're like oh yeah, we're gonna get loopy dude it's very deceiving and uh tough yeah, gretchen. Gretchen does a good job at uh telling people yeah let's get loopy.
Speaker 2and dude, she kicks your ass, man, her and jason, dude, one of the you of the best race directors around. Dude, they're brutal, they are brutal.
Speaker 3I've only ever seen that one advertised. I've never Twilight. Yeah, I've never actually signed up for it.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like a low-key one, but, dude, she's good at what she does. I thought that one was just for females.
Speaker 3That's the one in Walla Walla. Oh, okay, this, uh, what is it? The golden? The gold something, yeah, something totally different than yeah.
Speaker 2I don't think I've ever seen it then yeah, the hamster, the hamster, the 32 hour hamster, one is pretty good, that's in, uh, bellingham. Okay, that that one's fun, dude, but man, but man, I destroyed my feet because it's like road and gravel and the gravel dude after a while. When you hit 60 miles, dude, that gravel, it was brutal on your feet. I had a whole blister underneath my feet. Man, both feet dude.
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Speaker 3That sucked. How far did you get on Badger this year? Not far, not far. No, what happened? Just didn't want to do it. You didn't mind sharing.
Speaker 2I just didn't want to finish. It was just one of those things. It was like dude Badger 100. I'll probably never do it again. Probably never do it again. I'm done, honestly. I'm done running races around here, man.
Speaker 3Oh yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3We're not doing the one in May, then that Jason puts up that goes from Benton City to Richland. Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 2I'll probably help out. I'll help out, but that's the only one I donate my time on, and stuff Other than that jump off. Joe, I'm done with the out and backs dude the out and backs man.
Speaker 3She hates out and backs I. I don't.
Speaker 2I prefer them yeah, I hate it, dude. Have you run with the goats yet? I've never, I've never do that and then talk to me, I've never signed up for it.
Speaker 3But you also have to chug a beer, right, right.
Speaker 2Every loop of the line man, I did sober.
Speaker 3Yeah, I've been sober man, oh that's right, because you can do sober light or full on. I did sober man.
Speaker 2It took me three days just to get all that sugar out of my system, dude, it was gross. I felt disgusting, dude, but can it be sparkling water? Okay, sober, yeah, but still, you still have to chug it. Yeah, well, you don't have to chug it like, you can sit, you can take your time, but you know time yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3How many people actually that chugged like the full beer finish?
Speaker 2I don't know, but all I know is that there's out of the sobers, I think there was 14 or 15 people who signed up. Only four finished. Oh, wow, yeah, it's brutal man. It was getting hot too, and man, I was drinking water.
Speaker 2I was drinking water and it just felt nasty, man, because you know you go down this hill and then you have to go up a hill and as you're going down, it's not the sturdiest terrain and you're just like burping it up, you know, and it just it's not pleasant. It's not pleasant man, it's a it's a different ball game, jason and his stupid ideas, you know, just like your stupid idea that you want to do 12, 12 hours of McBee yeah, so I had well, not 12 hours. 12 loops, 12 loops yeah, totally different. Because loops, when you say loops, is it out to chandler and back?
Speaker 3no, just like that four mile loop for okay, like the one, you climb up and then just come back down the single grade yeah, and it's like 4.2.
Speaker 3I want to say yeah, so 12, so it had to be 12 loops if you want a 50 mile, and I had this idea before the point, before I left. Yeah, oh, I know and I've been, I've been, she looked into it what we need to do. But I also want to pick Jason's brain about like cause I want, we would want to, we and her, we and her want to run it. Do this next year.
Speaker 2But I also noticed that there's a time of year where those weeds are just way too crazy and you can't run through there, unless somebody goes through there and you've gone through it lately. Yeah, I just went. That fire man took care of a lot. Yeah, it's growing pretty quick. But um, over the uh before badger, somebody was clearing out that single grade. It's almost like a double grade now well then, my goal was to.
Speaker 3My idea was to do it in the summer, like at noon when it's like 100 degrees. But then she brought up a good point. She said well, what about fire season? If there's a fire, you probably gonna have to cancel it yeah, it's like yeah, that's true, but in a perfect world I would want it to be like like in july, middle july, when it's heat and there's no shade out there, and see who. Who finishes it.
Speaker 3Okay, I'm fine did you uh you're gonna be the first one that signs up, actually, you and ben ben yeah, ben man, dude, ben's like that he's.
Speaker 2He's trying to get me to do uh another. Jason, jason Heinemann's uh 88, the uh, you know Everest. You do a hundred. Uh, what is it? A hundred, it's on the back end of badger, but you do a hundred of uh up and downs and you get the whole 29 000 feet. It's up and down, dude, for a hundred times.
Speaker 3It's crazy nuts she's even smiling about it the downs will kill you, dude.
Speaker 2The downs will kill you more. And just like I don't know, but ben's trying to get me to do that. He's like you should do it, man. Let's either do annapurna or everest. I'm like dude, you got 24 me to do that. He's like you should do it, man. Let's either do Annapurna or Everest. I'm like dude, you got 24 hours to do 100 up and downs. He's been looking really good.
Speaker 3Who Ben Ben, yeah, ben Running.
Speaker 2Yeah, Ben was good man.
Speaker 3I was shocked that he I don't know what happened, I haven't talked to him about it but he didn't finish Badger. But I know he tried really hard. Dude, it's tough. It was tough Because I was there volunteering and the weather sucked.
Speaker 2Yeah, and.
Speaker 3I was like oh my gosh yeah at night. I felt like when I did mine I got lucky. Yeah, like the weather was perfect. Other than it got hot for a little bit, liz, are you okay? Yeah, other than it got hot for a little bit, are you okay?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I was just making sure. If you're uncomfortable, just let me know my hands are really swollen from being pregnant. Yeah, it just gets uncomfortable.
Speaker 1I'm fine now.
Speaker 2Just let me know here to help. Yeah, I don't know, man, it's the out and backs. Yeah, out and backs around here. I wish it was more loops than out and backs. And uh, yeah, man, I would rather spend my money elsewhere than yeah, then do the out and backs and just like, okay, here we go. You know, jump off joe, yeah, out a little bit back, then out and all the way back. You know, I just, I think that's the challenging, fun part about.
Speaker 3It is like because when you're done with badger, like the 50 mile letter, and you get done like around seven or eight or whatever, yeah, yeah night and you're like I gotta go back and do that again yeah it's like a mind you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's it messes with you yeah, it's a mind, it's a whole mind. Fuck yeah. And you're like dude, I did it this time at this at you know this rate. Am I gonna do it at that rate this time around? No, and so that gets in your head and you're like, okay, well, I just went down candy, the backside of candy, which is deceiving and hurtful, you know, and like, do you have to go up that one more time?
Speaker 3no, it was a really fun volunteer and I've never volunteered for a race yeah and it was. It was fun just seeing all the people hurt all the runners hurt and like some guy like sat down for like five minutes, got up, threw up and he's like all right, I'm good.
Speaker 2Yeah, let's go Some guy.
Speaker 3Did you see the guy running Crocs? Yeah, yeah, he ran the whole thing in Crocs. Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 2I took a picture of it.
Speaker 3Yeah, cause she didn't believe me. I was like this guy's, get Crocs to sponsor you, yeah he probably does. Like you need some tougher Crocs for your beat. Dude serious.
Speaker 2I don't know how he does it, man.
Speaker 3And I didn't catch his name but I was like, wow, this is awesome.
Speaker 2Can you imagine doing them Crocs? No, Crocs. The bottoms are soft, dude, yeah, yeah especially doing like mcbee or doing the jeep trails and those things like with all that sand getting in there, I was like how the heck are you? Well, do you see that guy that had just uh little sandals?
Speaker 3yes, barefoot sandal. Yeah, dude, I saw that I was like more power too.
Speaker 2He's like more power to you. I'm like dude, no, like there is no padding whatsoever it was interesting and fun.
Speaker 3And then I was like I don't know if I'm ever gonna be able to do this again yeah, dude, I'm, yeah, it's a tough race it's a pretty tough race. What? Because it's like 60 percent that people drop out no, yeah, that it's, it's high it's like really high, yeah, and I don't know.
Speaker 2I feel like it's luck because you have the weather playing against you yep, and that's why there's so many people that uh buy or purchase, uh registration late, like that week. They're like, okay, is it gonna be nice or is it gonna be shitty? It's gonna be nice or shitty. Yeah, it's like it was nice, but then it was shitty.
Speaker 3At night there was a rain. Yeah yeah, there was people saying they couldn't. Even when they were going up they couldn't see in front of them. Oh yeah, because of the fog it was so much fog they couldn't even see their hand. Wouldn't surprise me, wouldn't surprise me. But but it was fun volunteering. I would like to volunteer more. I really want to volunteer at the Bigfoot.
Speaker 2Okay, that would be fun. Talk to Ben. He's doing, he's doing, he's been doing he did.
Speaker 1Moab volunteered for.
Speaker 2Moab and he's doing Tahoe and I think he might be doing Bigfoot, I'm not sure he loves that stuff, dude, but he's training to do one of those, right yeah? Yeah and yeah, I pushed back my Cocodona Were you going to do the 250?
Speaker 1Yeah, I was going to do it this year.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was going to do it, but I'm going to do a few more 24-hour, 48-hour races. Which one was it? What do you have next? What do I have next? I signed up for another 12.
Speaker 312 hours.
Speaker 2Yeah, another 12-hour. It's in Monroe. I think that's my next one. Then I got like three back-to-back-to-back in late summer, early fall, before cross-country season. Oh that's right, because you're still coaching. Yeah, late summer, early fall, before cross country season oh that's right Cause you're still coaching. Yeah, yeah, oh, but the big one is across across the year down in Arizona, right before new year's and yeah she, her sister.
Speaker 3She has a sister that also does ultras and her last one was a 50 and in November, but what's it called? It was a part in Nevada In November, in November, but what's it called?
Speaker 1It was part of the Mad Moose race series.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1And she did the dead horse she did the 50 mile in Moab.
Speaker 3Okay, and that one looked really fun when.
Speaker 2I saw the pictures.
Speaker 3It looked like the scenery was really beautiful. That would be cool. Now they're doing $300. Now Did you?
Speaker 2see that.
Speaker 3Yeah, Candice came out with a $300 in Arizona $300?.
Speaker 2You see the price tag on that. Yes, it's a lot better than the Cocodona, but jeez yeah.
Speaker 3I don't know $300. Well, even Bigfoot is like $1,200 or something right.
Speaker 2Yeah, 1200 or something, right, yeah, it's, it's expensive.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's like yeah, it's 16, I think 16, but but I think that's the beauty of like you can volunteer and like I don't know how that works.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, get credit, get credit, and that's what Ben has done.
Speaker 3So you can tell they're giving you like the stuff to use from the last last, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, only the best for camp you get the pack and like oh, this is expired yeah you know, yeah, that's why I don't do that.
Speaker 2I'll bring my own candy or scratch. Yeah, scratch is good. Have you had that? It's better, better and health like kind of healthier. But yeah, people live by it and ever since I uh heard from you know people do I used tailwind a lot. Tell one, yeah, tell one and scratch. Man scratches the next thing. Dude, check it out.
Speaker 3But yeah, when, and is it called noon? I think it was called oh, noon, yeah, yeah that because they sell it in those. Caffeine yeah, and I used the heck out of those at Badger. I think I finished two of those bottles.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1That's salt, but by the end of it.
Speaker 3It was just like it tasted gross.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Like nothing, tasted good.
Speaker 2But no, the 48-hour one, and then, if I I like that, I'm gonna do uh 72 the following year, so every year. And then they got a six day, dude, they got a six day, and uh, and how does that?
Speaker 3where you just as much as you? For six days and it's a it's a loop course uh, so you can do like 20 miles a day or something if you want.
Speaker 2Yeah, but why do 20 when you can do yeah?
Speaker 1yeah.
Speaker 2I know what you mean, I know. I'm just saying like why do 20? Spread?
Speaker 3it out.
Speaker 2But yeah, no, that's my goal, man, and I'm going to stick to it. It took me two and a half years to get that power hike cadence. You know the Jason Rutherford cadence fast walk and Rutherford cadence, fast walk. I got it down and I'm gonna stick with that, because I tried to go speed and but you still don't use poles. Right, I don't use poles. Yeah, I hate poles that's wild.
Speaker 3I hate poles. When I did McBeal's past last time I had to use poles.
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Speaker 2I don't it's. You rely on it, and too much, I mean because I spent a lot of time in the mountains and the one thing that it the one thing I hate about poles is you rely heavily on them, especially out there, and when you do, you start getting tennis elbow. Yeah, I don't know man, it just it's. I find it not helpful. A lot of people like you know this past weekend oh man, thank goodness for the polls. I'm like fuck, for real, I did yeah, you should.
Speaker 3Yeah, I feel like you should train without them and then use them for the race or whatever, or to at least learn how to use them I.
Speaker 2I use them when it feels like, not during a race, but when I'm out in the wilderness doing all that, when I feel like, oh crap, I'm going to take a stumble like you're almost drunk. That's when I'll do it, because I'll catch myself every now and then. But then sometimes when I catch myself, I may either hit myself in the chin or in the nuts, and so it's like, oh Well, they're also a nice stand for when you have to go to the bathroom. Nah. I haven't thought about that.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can like prop them up, hold on to them, yeah, and put all your weight on them and you just squat down, okay, especially when you're like really tired and you can't. You know, yeah, you can't get down, yeah I gotcha, I gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 3You know, never mind, I won't go there, man, I won't go there yeah, it was because, ben well, the other day he was like he posted a picture and he's like, oh, I use this as my to wipe whatever. And it was pancake. It was a pancake and I was like that's a good idea it's a good idea until it goes through. That's true.
Speaker 1It's better than.
Speaker 3I've used.
Speaker 1You get ants in your butt, and then I commented.
Speaker 3I was like it's better than using rocks. I've used rocks before and it's better than using rocks. Or tumbleweed, yes. Or like I've ripped grass from the ground.
Speaker 2Yep, done that, done the little patty cake with it. Oh God, man Melissa's just like oh my God, oh she's done it too.
Speaker 3That's why she's laughing yeah.
Speaker 2So when's your next run, or just a run? When are you running outside Long run?
Speaker 3A long run, probably this weekend, probably, I don't know, this past weekend. I went to just Chamna, just cause it's cool there yeah nobody goes there.
Speaker 2Really it's quiet watch your car though. Yeah, I parked it at the Candy and Chamna. Badger's getting bad now too what's that?
Speaker 3what's that park next to Lulu's? Yep, yep, that's where I parked it okay I just ran to cham. That's the best way to go because, yeah, when I got to cham now, there was already some sketchy people yeah yeah, that's the best way to go. Man, that's like everywhere now dude, it's sadly sucks.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's why I just go from my house, and that's the ideal way yeah I have a longer run yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, and so, um and now. But well, back then, before the point, I had a different car ends up, I didn't care like yeah, yeah, they steal it, whatever.
Speaker 1But now yeah, that truck is nice though yeah, and so yeah, it's cham.
Speaker 39've seen some sketchy cars, like Candy like just driving by there, yep, um, and so, yeah, I don't know so. I always have my phone with me anyways in case whatever happens, even running through Chamna, there's like encampments in there.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was like people live here, yeah, yeah, and so, anyways, yeah, okay well, if anything, man, if you ever need a running buddy once or twice, you know in the near future, let me know.
Speaker 3I'll be there, I'll be around, man, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2We need to get together and do a run or something You're right, but right now that baby's number one, number one, number one, number one. So you might not go on a long run this weekend.
Speaker 3Yeah, we never know, we're kind of, we're just she's ready, living day by day. This is ready for this weekend, yeah she's been walking a lot and squatting a lot trying to get the baby out right what?
Speaker 2um, where are you? Where are you going to have it? Kenwick Richland.
Speaker 1Uh, so I, I go to a doctor in Walla Walla, okay, um, but we've kind of come to the conclusion that if, like, if I'm at home and he's at work and I have to drive myself to the hospital, I can. I'm just going to go to Cadillac, if you try yourself.
Speaker 2Oh, my gosh, best believe, hope you have the baby this weekend. I'm praying for that.
Speaker 3I'm hoping for it, yeah, so we're just really busy right now and we're just trying to just manage our schedule so that we can. I mean, we both want things we were training for. Even she's training for stuff right now, even being pregnant Um, it's crazy. Yeah, she's one of those.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3She's one of those, you see, and so we're. We're just trying to find a balance, and that's like with everything in life it's hard to find balance.
Speaker 2Well, good man. Well, I'm glad things are working out, glad you're happy, glad you guys met. Seems like you guys are happy, you know, and I mean, I don't see you that much, so you are happy. But no man, I appreciate your time, dude, and if you need anything, let me know. You know, and, dude, don't shut me out, man.
Speaker 3No, that's not, Don't shut me out, man. Yeah, that was never. Oh gosh, yeah the intention. I gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 2Well, you know, I always have your back and I support you, man and uh, all the bullshit aside, just know, dude.
Speaker 3I'm here for you, man, appreciate it. Yeah, I've just been really busy and then I mean I can tell you off the air.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh yeah, you're good. You're good, but did I leave anything? Do you want to add anything, man? I want to talk to Melissa. I'm trying not to look at Melissa right now because I'm curious of her background.
Speaker 3There'll probably be a time, but I think the baby comes first. Yeah, she has her own stuff. Yeah, it'd be awesome too. Actually, I've been telling her about you since I met her, yeah, and how she needs to be here and talk because you, you know you bring a lot of good people in your podcast about you know from the community and all around, and everybody seems to have like a story. A story, yeah.
Speaker 2Never met anybody who went to Idaho. The whole length of Idaho.
Speaker 3Yeah, and she that's an interesting one Right, and she that's an interesting one right, and all they heard tell it when yeah, when that time comes. But, um, yeah, okay, yeah, I don't have anything else to add? I don't think so. Okay, just trying to stay busy. And till next time, jose? Yeah, till next time melissa yes till next time.
Speaker 2I appreciate you being here, especially like you're just a little antsy and moving. I'm like that chair is so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1No, it's not that. It's really just that my hands get so like hot and tight and like swollen.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And my pants are kind of cool and so it like cools my hands off oh okay, I know I look like I'm like a turkey Right?
Speaker 2No, if you weren't pregnant, probably. But hey, no, if you weren't pregnant, probably. Totally understand. But no, we have to get together.
Speaker 3I know you got that baby, but if you guys just want to go on a run or an easy hike.
Speaker 2I'm always available.
Speaker 1She's going to Badger this weekend. This weekend, yeah, doing what? Oh, me and some old work friends are just going for a hike. Oh, okay, they they're. They're like trying to get like back into shape. I worked at h and r block with them, okay, and they're just trying to get back in shape and they've been walking and stuff and this weekend is the first weekend that they're going to try to hike badger you're going to have the baby, then you know, that's kind of what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1I'm like, oh man, oh man, if I do this hike, maybe I'll go into labor.
Speaker 2You gotcha, okay? All right, jose, don't be a stranger, all right? No, definitely will not be Until next time. Next time, all right, we'll see you next time.