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#119: BLINK TWICE, Mind Control, and the Epstein Files w/ William Ramsey
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I welcome back friend of the show, author, filmmaker, podcaster, and researcher William Ramsey to talk Epstein to help ensure it does not fade from the headlines. We discuss the movie Blink Twice and the links and similarities to the Epstein Files, abuse victims, occult symbolism, Eyes Wide Shut, Zoë Kravitz (Hollywood royalty?), the Epstein Files Transparency Act, Pizzagate and Comet Ping Pong, Amanda Ungaro, and whether or not they are recycling the blackmail evidence.
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All right, guys, welcome back to Divulgence. Very special episode with William Ramsey because every episode is very special. We have William Ramsey in the house. William, how are you doing, my friend? It's uh really good to see you. Yeah, good to see you too. Thanks for having me back. All right, so today we uh we were gonna talk about Jeffrey Epstein, and uh you dropped on me connections to uh the movie Blink Twice, so that's what we're gonna get into today. So uh, where do you want to start with, my friend? Um should we do a quick recap of the movie for those who don't know what it's about?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think it's an interesting movie. It came to my attention just by doing my shows, and somebody said, Hey, you should watch this blink twice. And I didn't know much about it. It it was released in 2024. 2024. Oh, cool. It had a lot of big actors in it, so it has like what I'm seeing here, yeah. Hayley Joe. One, this woman, the African-American woman's name is Naomi Aki, but it had Channing Tatum, uh Christian Slater, the guy Rex, who I can't remember his first name, Haley Joe Osman, if you remember, from Sixth Sense. Yeah, and some some of the issues over the years. It's I think it's really well acted. Like, I watched it. I thought it's good for you know, it's not Simon Rex, thank you. Um, Gina Davis and Kyle McLaughlin, who are old.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, wow. Gina Davis.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, big names back in the day.
SPEAKER_01Gina Kravitz Christian Slater, Kyle McLaughlin.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, wow. Okay. One of the reasons why is like, why did this person bring this to? I get great tips, you know. People give me tips on great movies. This is one of I would imagine. Yeah, the reason is the kind of background, it's also directed by Zoe Kravitz. So if you know Lenny Kravitz, the okay musician, her his daughter, she's in it too. Jesus, she directed it and helped write it, and she grew up in that environment, right? So her dad is a really famous musician, like he's around, and I think he's dated famous people. I think her mom's famous, actually. I think her mom was that woman who was in um I see her face. I can't remember it. It's uh Angel Heart. Do you remember the movie Angel Heart? Lisa Bonet? Yes, Lisa Bonet, yeah. So her she's I would say, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02I think it's fair to say that Zoe Kravitz is kind of Hollywood royalty, maybe not super A plus list, but she's in that sort of the circles. Like I think, I think she's very pretty. Um Zoe Kravitz. She was in, I think, the Hunger Games. Anyway, why is this movie?
SPEAKER_01And uh she was she was uh sorry to interrupt. She uh just because you said you mentioned her being pretty. Uh her she was in the Batman, and she's she's gonna be in the Batman part two. She is she looks great in the Batman, she was awesome in that, I thought. And uh, I thought she was very attractive in that movie, per se.
SPEAKER_02So she why is why is this person to first directorial? Why does she want to make a movie like this? Why is I mean she's got some good actors, what's going on? I think the thing is that the whole premise of the film is very rich people, privileged tech people, um, and in a group, kind of like an entourage, they always go to some island and party together, and externally they're like hipsters and thought leaders and you know, impressive. And so then there's vulnerable women involved. So the the women who are good, uh the actresses who I had never seen, who I thought were good, Naomi Akian, this couple other girls. Um, they're almost like in the roles of Epstein victims, you know, uh in the outer side of these rich, powerful people, wanting access, wanting opportunities for just like any girl or person, really, a boy or a girl, man or a woman, on the way up trying to find their way through, right? So they're incentivized to go there, and then they get to the island and things get pretty wonky, they get stranger and stranger and stranger. I do have um the um PDFs there, if you want to bring that up. That's the poster of it. So that's um Channing Tatum.
SPEAKER_01So Channing Tatum is the tech billionaire, yeah.
SPEAKER_02His name is Slater, something like Slater King. Slater King, yes. Um, and you see the Polaroids, so there's like memory, so the Polaroids related to memory, and there's a lot of things in what Epstein was studying was amnesia and memory, which I'll show in the slides, and uh it plays into this film too, so it's very it's and these women are abused. I mean, this is a total like spoiler alert, I guess. The women are abuse, you know, they're abused, but they're also given drugs to forget, and so that's kind of one of the interesting things. So they don't know they've forgotten, so it's kind of like this amnesia thing that's also ties into mind control. There's always some kind of in the like you know, the MK Ultra in the general gestalt sense, there's always somebody trying to give somebody amnesia, and actually, the modern the way the TV works in the modern media is to impose a form of amnesia on the public. There's absolutely no question how they can turn issue to issue into issue and make people forget important stuff like COVID or things that have happened in the past, or so I think that we may all be on a figurative island, so to speak. Oh, we may all be on Epstein Island or this island that Slater King and his buddies take these people to, and uh it unravels kind of slow and it's got it's nice. There's a lot of occult symbology in this, which makes it interesting, and kind of like gift bags, like you know, in the elite, like if you're really well known and you go to places like Coachella's going on here in California right now, right? Yeah, people who were like wealth, like uh people who do fashion and stuff, they give away gift bags so that they hope that these celebrities will wear their sunglasses or shirts or icons with their logos or anything like that, and it's kind of ties kind of into this film too, where they give out these gift bags, but there's something more sinister to these particular gift bags. But uh, I actually really think this is a pretty good movie. I wouldn't call it like The Godfather or Chinatown.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited to see it. You know what? Honestly, I'm I haven't seen it yet. Don't worry about spoiling anything, though. I am gonna watch it, but don't I don't want you to worry about spoiling it. Let's let's don't worry about that.
SPEAKER_02It's cleverly written, I think it's pretty well written. There's a lot of interesting references. They like talk about fight club, like you don't talk about stuff, first rules. So there's references to kind of modern films that we know or something, or famous lines, and also the red hibiscus there that is on her um left ear. That's the woman, Naomi Aki. Um, she it has some kind of thing to do, like there's this flower elements, this forgetting scopel. I mean, I think we talked about that briefly in one of our earlier shows.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we did for sure. We absolutely did.
SPEAKER_02So that ties into this, this whole thing. And uh you'll see in the slides, like there's this the in the film that what brings the amnesia is this um perfume, and then you see the similar kind of perfume in literally in Epstein's pictures and stuff like that. So it's pretty interesting, and there's missing fingers, there's also a smiley face, so there's a a reference to this kind of secret society that you know. I've talked about the smiley face killers. I did a two and a half hour update last night if people want to check that out. But you know, this whole kind of secret, some kind of secret group going around killing people, literally, I think.
SPEAKER_01So it's it's it sounds like this movie is uh uh just like under the silver lake that we were talking about before the show, uh, that we're gonna we're gonna meet up again and talk about. It sounds like this movie is uh put directed to and and has things put in there just for people like like you and me, it seems like, because we're obviously picking up on all these things. I don't think the average, I honestly just do not think the average person, if my mom is watching it, uh if some of my friends are watching, I don't think they're picking up on things that you and me are picking up on, to be quite honest with you.
SPEAKER_02I think you're right. It's kind of like a revelation of the method. And I think that it this um kind of distills really kind of the way the Hollywood system works, honestly. They there is this whole thing of fresh meat and of like Epstein, where these people literally are treated horribly, they're abused, they're objectified. And I don't think that's that happens or casting couched, I guess is a way to put it. Um, either figurative or figuratively or literally, that really does happen. Like I've seen it, like I've been in LA since 2001, and I've like I'm not even in the entertainment industry, and I hear stories and I see stories, and I mean I've heard stories like women being like they're from other parts of LA and they're brought into these parties, they're brought in like almost like like you're bringing in like furniture or something, like right, dress up and come here, and then these celebrities show up, and I mean it's like very eyes wide shut.
SPEAKER_01I'm not saying they're eyes wide shut parties, but these people don't they're but it's very similar in some in some themed, you know, in some themes, it's very similar.
SPEAKER_02No, you're 100% right. It's like that. So there it's so it's not like you know, some celebrity. I don't want to, I know names like, but like for example, let's say it's um this is not true, but Leonardo DiCaprio, he's gonna be at a party with his buddies playing poker, and somebody will like be an intermediary. They're not may not be like on their name, say that they're a madam, but they've met these beautiful actresses who are on the way up, and she calls them and says, Hey, you guys want to just show up at a party? And that these things happen, and then sometimes you know it progresses to something else that's not meant to be like a long-term relationship, you know. Um, those things really do happen. So, and I think that this is kind of this this is what happens with Epstein, the concept of a comet, right? Comet ping pong. That's actually kind of like uh a term in you know, interpersonal relationships where you have like a relationship with somebody and then it goes away real fast. So this is what I think is happening and is portrayed by um Zoe Kravitz. You know, she wrote and directed this, so she's kind of like I guess an auteur to a certain extent. So I don't know if she deserves that that appellation, but like she's the one who my sense is that she's she's seen a lot as well. You know, I can't say I've I'm not a to do a movie like this, right?
SPEAKER_01You I mean, it's I don't know if this is her first movie to direct and all that, but I mean sometimes, even though, like you were saying, like she can be considered Hollywood royalty, even even if you're high up in Hollywood or or or well known in Hollywood, but don't actually necessarily direct films, sometimes you only get one chance to to do something, even though if you're well known for something else. So you know, you're gonna choose a topic like this. It I feel like it needs to be pretty close to your heart for some reason, or pretty, pretty big on your radar of things that you kind of um pay attention to in the world and think think that other people should be paying attention to. Uh maybe I'm wrong, but that's just what I can.
SPEAKER_02I don't think you're wrong. I think she's trying to tell us something through this film. I really do, because there's a lot of drug use and abuse, and kind of really the ugliest side of like power where you like really exert, you know, exert that power like it's fun. And you see that through Epstein, like he's treating the women like furniture, disposable, taking pictures of them. There's literally, I looked at one today where it was really interesting for somebody who's not part of this thing, but like there's videos of women at a modeling agency, and it's just so cold-blooded. It's like watching a like a racehorse, you know, being trotted out at a stable or something, yeah, like on a like a like on a rope and then put back in, like you're done, you know. Yeah, right. Yeah, and it has that feel kind of is reflected in this. Like the the girls don't know, they don't know what like it's sudden it unfolds itself in a really clever way, in my opinion. Like, I recommend this movie, I would say three out of four stars.
SPEAKER_01Um also another another uh and this is something that you've posted on a few times. Uh, I think it's a post that's that's gotten quite a quite a bit of traction. Um, I think it is uh Epstein is I I believe it's Epstein at Zoro Ranch with a victim, possibly a Brazilian victim. Uh, and he's holding her up almost like a trophy or something, like a trophy kill, right? Uh like a picture like that just screams, you know, like a picture's worth a thousand words. That that just kind of screams all the words.
SPEAKER_02Um that was one of my most incredible posts. It had like 11 million views, and it really tore up Brazil. Like it went, you could tell that it went to like the people who have Twitter in Brazil because you could just see all the um Portuguese responses. And the reason that was is because when he was holding her up like a trophy, she had some thing on her shirt in in Brazilian Portuguese, like there's very slight variances, just like there is English. Yeah, absolutely. It was a kid's show, so it had more. So if you're from Portuguese, it would be like seeing it like uh Jim will fix it or something, like Jimmy F Savile's kid show. I'm trying to think of a kid show today, like maybe um SpongeBob, or yeah, or the explorer or something, yeah, precisely. So that makes it even more creepy. So it's like a child, yeah. This is a teen or a child wearing, you know, fun comic book type stuff, and that's the way I think that the Americans who don't know that language didn't get that impact that were as like, and there's a lot, and what it was interesting too, because it was a learning experience for me, it showed how big the trafficking was, but there is a real Brazilian connection to Epstein, so it's really a global trafficking ring, and some of the kids came from Brazil, and you can see it in the Epstein files. Like, I got a Brazilian 18, like this whole thing of like they don't even mention the name. That's the whole thing, like this whole commodify commodification or objectification. You know, it's not like I've had this wonderful girl, she loves to play piano, it's just Brazil 18, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is all you need to know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, and I think that's reflected in this blink twice. So I think that Zoe, I think she picked up on themes that are similar to this kind of like cla. I mean, you could look at through a class lens or power lens or both of like, okay, this is my power, and you're you are plaything for me, you know. That's what I'm enjoying. And that's kind of what it because that that's the way it changes, because at the intro, it's like, hey, you're my friend, I can help you out. You know, it's this whole thing of the grooming that happens that Epstein and uh Maxwell did in their whole circle, and I think it's reflected in Blink Twice, and it's before it came, you know, it was released before these whole EFTA, the Epstein Transp ETF, excuse me, the Epstein Transparency uh Act came out. Epstein Files Transparency, excuse me. So it's interesting. The timing is really, I mean, for this movie to come out, it should have come out now. Like it would have been better if it if it was released in 2026, but people should go back and watch it. There's a lot of interesting things in here, a lot of color themes. So blue, yellow, red, repeated through here. And I think it's all important. They're all kind of keyed into each other. Um, there's a lot of this forgetting amnesia type stuff, and they also the um compartmentalization and isolation in an island. So they're brought away from all their friends and contacts and everything like that. Like it's deliberate, right? Like that's what Epstein did got them, like you know, this Brazilian girl away from her parents or her friends or whatever. Um, they don't they lose time, like they lose contact of time and space. So there's like a deliberate thing, like we don't know the time and space. Yeah, that's it right there. This is that was just more picks, but like this. Yeah, this is just the more this isn't the original post I was talking about, but yeah, this is um you can this is the same girl, but if you can go, I think Epstein's hand, I think. But that shirt is a that's the tell. It's some kind of like comic book shirt. These are the um, if you look like I've looked through enough of the Epstein files, and this kind of look at her, look at the way he drags around and controls her. Clearly, a young child, like this person in her hand.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, it's a phone. Sorry, it's a flip phone.
SPEAKER_02It's a flip phone, but that is a 13-14-year-old girl, in my opinion. Like, that's why. Look at how small she is, yeah. She's tiny, she's look at her legs. Yeah, she's not developed. No, and Epstein isn't that big of a guy, and I so I think, and there's Brunel too with him, and another trafficker. Yeah, that's the shirt I was talking about. If you scroll in, it's some kind of kid show.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Karoca, I agree, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Wow, which makes and there's the Zora Ranch with the um pitchfork at the end. There's Brunel with her.
SPEAKER_01It's weird because like you see some photos like this, it's and they're all smiling, and it's just it's so weird. Like it must be so uncomfortable and so awkward, and those are just the files that were released and unredacted, yeah, unredacted.
SPEAKER_02Like, there's um terabytes of stuff that hasn't been released. It's a huge cover-up, and it's even they the government has admitted it. Blanche under Trump has admitted that there's like 2.3 million files that were released because they were involved death, torture, and child porn. Like, what's going on? So, and then you can have the head of the FBI say we don't have any evidence to prosecute. These two things do not match, right? Like, he's literally talking about crime after crime after crime on 2.3 million files. And then Patel says there's nothing in the files. I can find crime in the files, it's very obvious. Like, this girl should be investigated. What's she doing in the United States? What's her name? And is she underage? Is being she being trafficked across state lines or federal lines? This one case should trigger an investigation, right? Just this girl that you showed. She's clearly not over 18, in my opinion. Like, I mean, I I don't think she's 18 or older. That's why it tore up freaking Brazil, and there's a lot of Brazilian stuff, like I said earlier. It's pretty wild. So there to so you could say, and one of the interesting things, like you mentioned Zoro Ranch, it's almost like an island. I don't know if people know the design of Zorro and where it is, but it's literally like a small circle of property owned on a huge ranch owned by somebody else. So literally, you have to drive like five miles in to get to this barren um mansion in the middle of nowhere. It's not close to anything. I mean, it's it's south of uh Santa Fe and east of Albuquerque, but like it's not in a residential area, it's a very strange, eerie place. And there's like the talk about that is like farm animals, incinerators, horrible stuff, downstairs, pools, um, naked pictures of Ghullaine Maxwell. Jeffrey Epstein was gonna put a picture of the slaughter of the innocents in there. I don't know if it ever happened, but a nine by nine picture. Uh like it's it's a hell ranch. So it's like an island. It's like an island in the desert in a way. I think you can I don't think that's too much of a stretch.
SPEAKER_01No, not at all. Not at all. Because uh, unless you have uh just like the island, unless you have a boat or something to get you out of there, um unless you have a car, like you might you might not make it out, right? If you try to leave, depending on when you leave, what the weather's like, where you're going, how far you can get. Yeah, you it's like an island, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02They there was Sarah Ransom as one of the victims, like victims are still coming out of the woodwork, but Sarah Ransom, um, she said people would try to swim off the little St. James Island, like she tried to swim off. It's not funny. Like, that's how crazy. And there's this one video I posted about them trying to get take care of deer. It's not a big island, little Shame James. The reason it's called Little St. James is it's a little kind of smaller island next to St. James, the bigger one. And uh, there's like videos and and conversations in the files of them trying to get deer off the island. And then you go and look online, it's like, are there any deer on little St. James? And it says, No, that's only just small animals. So are they using code words for things? You know, are deer something else? Are they jumpers? You know, what's going on? Like it's it's a barren island, there's not even anything above a shrub. You could walk the little St. James. So there's all kinds of code words. We could do another show on code words. No, I'm serious. I've got a file about a hundred different code words. Oh, okay. There's literally one where there's like the insinuates they're hunting black people at night, they're doing hunting parties at night, snipe hunts for moon crickets. Like this word moon cricket is not it's not a modern kind of racist term. It's something from the 50s or 60s, but it's a very not nice thing for black people.
SPEAKER_01Um, so these code words it's not just like one related to one area that you got you've got like all sorts of different themes developed. Codes all over the place jerky, cream cheese, grape soda.
SPEAKER_00So let's pizza.
SPEAKER_02I mean, some of the codes overlap with the whole pizza gate, right? Pizza and sauce and all this other stuff. These guys are dark, man. They're very dirty. And shrimp. Like, I think what I've heard of shrimp is like a code word for a girl like that. That's little girl that you showed. Oh, okay. I think the um like I think they mean it as like a preteen kid or something like uh pre-PS or young girl, like it's clearly. So anyway, it's just like there's some the the Epstein files, what they released, I don't think they knew how bad it was. Like they didn't, they didn't the cover-up wasn't complete because you can put stuff together. They didn't the the guys who were probably doing the redacting. I don't know if you know this, but there's like a thousand people redacting stuff, like it was a huge, like almost like a is that how football side. Yeah, this is all verified in other documents. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01There's sorry, there's documents about the redaction process. Correct.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, yeah, there's documents, there's documents and there's actual like articles about how they were involved in massive redactions with overtime, and millions of dollars were spent to block everything out. So it's not like you in your mind you might think, oh, there's three guys in a uh in a meeting room at a law firm. No, there's thousands, there's like hundreds of people team redacting documents after documents.
SPEAKER_01That makes the uh mistakes that much more interesting, then it sure does.
SPEAKER_02Sure does. Well, some things slip through slip through. Like some I think that some people are like, F this, I'm just gonna let it slide, you know. Sounds like lousy jobs.
SPEAKER_01I don't know what I was thinking. Maybe some people either independently or you know, maybe had friends working together there that just thought, you know what, let's fucking, you know, I think I'm gonna let a few things in. Yeah, you know what? Me too. Let's, you know, this is bullshit.
SPEAKER_02Because they're bosses, they don't have the time to look over 1.3 million files overall, they have to trust it. And so the underlings are like, yep, let's just slide this one through. Let's slide because some of the ones they slid through are freaking damning because there's like one of the cover-up files that they slid through was one from March of 2025, right after Trump comes into office, okay, January 20th. And right there at the very beginning, this is before the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which is October, November, before the Democrats got on, the redactions were already starting, so they didn't tell the public they were redacting these things. So, you know, if you remember, you have to go back a year ago. But Bondy's like, I got them on my desk, and that even itself is a lie. That is even a deception. It's obvious. You see, you can see through the deceptions that they're giving to the public because her saying these files are on her desk, there's no F and W, there's terabytes of files, it's literally like a mountain of files. There's no way 1.3 million documents are on her desk, yeah, not in a literal sense. So when she's saying that, what she's impress uh pressing upon the listener is there's just a few files here in a list, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh they they wanted folder here with some papers in it, exactly, and they wanted to reinforce this whole Epstein list.
SPEAKER_02Show me the list. The list isn't is important, but the the govern the public and the even the government, even the dummies and the uh Congress didn't get this either. They thought the list was the important thing.
SPEAKER_01No, no, it's all the communications and background and the easy you gotta connect the the these names, you gotta connect them to how they fit into this puzzle. You can't just say, Oh, look at all these fucking names. I mean, some of these people uh are innocent in the sense that maybe they did uh absolutely nothing wrong, and maybe they didn't even associate with Epstein. And some of them are innocent in the sense that okay, even though they knew he was a sleaze bag or something, they didn't actually do anything, they just associated with them or did business with them in legal ways. So you you know, you you gotta know what what you're dealing with. You can't just throw a blanket over the this case and and say that you want everyone punished. Uh, you gotta know what the hell is going on, right?
SPEAKER_02But it they the people it's all this massive cover-up. So the people involved are covering up, the government's covering up, so they're all lying. One of the things that the Epstein file showed is that almost everybody who's involved or associated with Epstein is lying about their association with them. They're all distancing themselves, Lutnik and Kushner and all these other people, they're all know him, like, but uh the the Congress didn't know a lot of this stuff, and now they know, so at least they got the files out so people could take a look. The e the Epstein Files Transparency Act is only one page, it's really poorly written. It just shows how dysfunctional the Congress is, because that what they should have said is they should have released the documents to the public and to Congress and then had some kind of data uh grinding or AI that would allow people to go through with a proper search function and show what pictures are and correlate because the way that they even released them was a cover-up because you can take tinker around on justice.gov and it'll take you forever. But what happened is the smart people took it all off the internet and then uploaded on their sites. But it's it's just a massive, it's so bad. They're trafficking thousands and thousands of kids, and uh the whole thing, I mean, everything they told to the public was fake. It was like, oh, I've got them on my desk, we're gonna release them, we're transparent. If you remember the March 2025 white binder transparency, it's all fake. Everything they said was fake. It was just Jeff, he liked teen girls. No, there are five-year-old kids, seven-year-old kids, infants missing, talk about baby rape. I mean, it's off the charts, it's totally evil. Like, even that you're joking, I mean, it can't be seen as a joke, it's like inside jokes. It's totally everything they said was lies, and the racism and the going and all this stuff.
SPEAKER_01Another connection to uh Pizzagate, I'd say, because what we learned from that, if you paid enough attention and dug deep enough with people like James Elephantis and uh Podesta and people that they uh frequented with just the their social media, uh photos, posts, uh friends and their posts all relating to very similar things, all very similar themes. And if you're just trying to say it's a joke, it's like that that's like a pretty long-running joke, uh in one topic in one area about you know the abuse or sexy sexualization of children, uh, and you're all adults, like you're all running with that. Like, I don't know about that. I don't like at some point it's not a joke, right?
SPEAKER_02There's like pictures of kids taped down, taped weird down.
SPEAKER_01Yes, that's that's one sauce.
SPEAKER_02Remember Haitian sauce? Haitian sauce, yeah. And remember, P people forget sometimes they focus on comet ping pong, which is good. And I mentioned comet earlier, but like the comet ping pong came out of the potesta emails, if you remember, it was the Podesta emails that got released by WikiLeaks, and that's why they had to go after uh Julian Assange, right? Because they're pissed about that, because it showed the inside depravity of these people, like the total wickedness and degeneracy and evil. And uh, but it was the potesta emails, and there's similar things about those emails that correlate to the Epstein emails. Like my kids are coming to the Lozato. I like put reposted the famous Lozotto or infamous email where she's like, I got an eight-year-old kid, a 10-year-old kid, and a 12-year-old kid, and they're gonna be in the hot tub. Like, who the fucking hell says that at a party? Like, I gotta show you this video. I found it today. This will like make you sick. Okay, cool. Because it's it's uh nobody's really seen this. Uh to my knowledge, they haven't put this video out in the public, but it's literally of like a teen girl, and it's it this is one that they kind of let slip through.
SPEAKER_01Um this was in the file, the Epstein files?
SPEAKER_02100%. I'll give you the EFT number here in a sec. Just give me a sec. But it's basically at a party. Oh, here's a here's a good one. This is kind of like when I was talking to you about the the kind of flesh on display. Look at this one. This is it. I mean, it's already it's redacted, but I think it's a huge tell. Like, this is how these people viewed their victims. Can you pull that up?
SPEAKER_01Interesting. Um you can tell it's a modeling or talent agency because yeah, look in the background, you can see all those photos and and uh shelves of photos that are and and there's things written under the name. It's not an that doesn't look normal. Look at those photos though. That they don't look like normal modeling photos, those look like as if maybe they took them themselves almost, and they have these sketchy post-it notes with these details written on them. That's that's weird. So so do you but have you ever seen a horse Jordan?
SPEAKER_02Have you ever seen a horse brought out of a stable at like uh thoroughbred racing? It's like that. Yeah, it is a bunch of rich people just watching.
SPEAKER_01Just okay, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02This is another one, like you talk about things being slipped through. Look at this one. This is one I found today. Like these are the kids, man. Like people who aren't outraged by this are brain death. You can just tell by the body. There's thousands of videos like this.
SPEAKER_01Oh my yeah, oh my god. She's not fully grown. She's probably what? 12, 11. I was gonna say, uh, I was gonna say not much older than 10, I think.
SPEAKER_02And look how she they do this. Is the same thing. Like, there's videos of Epstein just having girls dance and walk forward and backward all the time, like it's so freaking creepy.
SPEAKER_01I feel like these are being taken and being sent to someone to say this is what this are right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so like what this is what Epstein got from somebody. What if there's like 500 people on a list or something? Like, we don't know. Like, what if there's even a hundred dudes? Like, okay, we got a new that's the way they their traffic, that's the way it was comes across in the emails, is like, I got a Brazilian news 10, I got a blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_01Because these people, uh, I mean, obviously they have their preferences, right? So I would imagine that they have these these preferences, and when they're partaking in this trafficking and and these illegal acts, they want to do it with the person of their preference, obvious, right? So that's you know, there's all you know, all this um, you know, different different modifiers, sorry, not modifiers, identifiers, these one-word or two-word identifiers. Um, yeah, it's just crazy.
SPEAKER_02Here's another one. Jeff, like there's tons of him pictures of him um getting his foot massages or foot massage. And this is one they actually show the girl's face, it's not redacted. Oh, yeah, look at that. I must never see the girl's face.
SPEAKER_01Another teen girl, it looks like sorry, it's kind of is it freezing? Oh, there we go. Oh my god, yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00Oh wow. Okay, let's see if I can find this.
SPEAKER_02Um there's a lot of weird things about cages and like stuff like that. And here's Jeff uh with a bird key with a bird cage.
SPEAKER_00That reminds me of those. Watch this. Roth what is it? The Roth uh the Rothschild parties.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, I guess I didn't do it. Oh, it's a bit too short, is what it says. Interesting. Let me see if I can promise. I'm trying to find this one that I had a kid. Okay, no, that's not it. Oh, this is it. Okay, this is the one I originally wanted to show you. You this isn't one that the redaction shows everything. This is at a part of if you go back to the beginning. This guy in the center is a waiter doing bottle service. So if you ever go to like a fancy higher end club, yeah, they're trying to sell you like a bottle of Dom or some high-end vodka for 250 bucks. That's what he's doing right there at the beginning. A real status thing, too. See how big that bottle is? Yeah, kind of figure it out. So these are all adults, right? It's I it's either on an island or somewhere, and they're all parting. And this is some kid here. There's some kind of 15-year-old kid listening to the stones. Oh, it's redacted, but you can tell if you kind of watch this. Same colors as the temple, Jordan. Blue and white. Oh see that and they redacted the perp here, too. Whoever this guy is, he got redacted. I was gonna say redacting the perps.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I was gonna say that I don't think that's a girl or a victim. No, that's a perp.
SPEAKER_02But it's like this is this. If you look at the old pictures of Jufre, she went to Niambi Campbell's birthday party in Paris. Yep, it's just like this. Like, she's clearly out of place. Like, she's a 15-year-old girl with adults and Epstein and Maxwell and uh Campbell, who knows a lot more. They should subpoena her, but then this little kid is here. Look at this, you can just tell it's another like teen. Like you can kind of see a little bit, like right there. You can just see by the body size that this is a teenage, this is a underage kid.
unknownCome on.
SPEAKER_01Look at how skinny those arms are. And I know models might have skinny arms, but like she's the rest of her body is just so yeah, she's so small. Wow.
SPEAKER_02No, they got away with a lot. I mean, this, I mean, this my tax dollars are not at work by not investigating this stuff because it's gonna, I'm sure it's going on. I sure the some people have speculated that the reason why the originals aren't out is because they're keeping them, because like people are looking through them, blackmailing other people in Congress and stuff. Oh so doesn't that make sense? Is to reuse it, like if you're a real reuse it, of course. You've got the Epstein files, Flanch is your guy. One you know, you've got this uh operator who's on your side in there looking through and redacting stuff too and keeping notes. Oh, there's Lindsey Graham, oh, there's um Swalwell. Oh, we've got you know, think about it. Like, if you're think on that level, you've got all the stuff's already already aggregated for you. It makes a lot of sense when you look at like the war against Iran and how there's no pushback from Congress on an illegal war, like I know, I know, right? Doesn't it make sense that they're either blackmailed or bribed or something?
SPEAKER_01They are being silenced on that front, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then like Swalwell's a perfect example. I don't know if you followed that guy, but like apparently there's a little bit, he's gonna go, he's going down because there's videos of him, but apparently he covered a lot of stuff in NDAs, and there's huge payouts. Like there was the I think it was Nancy Grace was trying to expose how much of your American tax dollars are being covered for sexual harassment payouts, and Congress voted against it. They didn't want to, they didn't want to re-release it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like so it's it's unbelievable when you see things that should pass with no you know no impotence, and it's like either a close vote or a loss, or and it's like it's just brain shattering. It's brain shattering.
SPEAKER_02It's corrupt, it's so corrupt, guys. These files are evidence of how corrupt in the cover-up is. Like all these people are gonna go to hell, like uh Bondi, Blanche, Patel. Um and they're they're gonna be exposed by this new information that comes out, like it's already coming out, like everybody still talks about it on the grapevine about Epstein, like even after like the files were released January 30th. It's almost been two and a half months. So uh, and there's still like Melania, this whole Melania thing where she rolled out and gave an impromptu speech without anybody around her.
SPEAKER_01Something could be dropping any day now, based on that, right? You never know. I'm surprised it hasn't dropped yet, but it could be dropping any day now, still.
SPEAKER_02She's asking for a full investigation by Congress without her husband saying anything. And I mean, that may be the predicate for her, like Trump dropkicking Trump, you know. Like, I'm done with this bum. Like, he's a total bum. So he's lied about everything, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he if that's the case, you'd think he would be worried because she's been so loyal to him uh for so long.
SPEAKER_02And now there's all the inside information, too. She probably knows a lot. She actually mentioned uh an email in the file, she didn't show it, but she was mentioning an email between her and Glenn Maxwell from 2002. The sweet pea one?
SPEAKER_01I think that was it or something, but it seems like they're very close, like it's not it's it seems that way in the email, like it's not just a uh it's not just her dropping her a line to see how she is, like Melania is trying to say it is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think so. They always distance themselves, it's not like a formal thing, it's informal friendly, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, and and then there's this whole um uh Amanda Ongaro thing. Have you been paying attention? Right, so yeah, you know, who knows what's gonna come out of that.
SPEAKER_02Here's another Brazilian connection, too, right? Yes, right.
SPEAKER_01There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER_02So it's like the the thing is unraveling that people didn't know all of the you know places that were going on. A lot of it's like, oh, they're just trafficking people in the US. It's international, man. No, yeah, picking up kids wherever, wherever they could find them, people, and I think she started when she was 18, like that was when she was brought into the network as a very early age.
SPEAKER_01Very early, same same age as uh maybe a year or two younger than Melania.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, and all the symbols are like here that are consistent with like the pedophile, um the pedophile symbology, because I found one here with a victim and pedophile. I don't this is probably a young kid too, but like the the I did a show recently about the whole pedo bear, like a teddy bear is a symbol of pedophilia.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh for sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the shining uh shining, eyes wide shut, yeah, eyes wide shutbels with it. They're in the modern, you know. Zeit guys to these they the pedos that's their that's like a symbolic sign or symbol. Oh, it's like a victim somewhere in there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, those are knees coming up, right? Leaves. So this is probably uh a second redacted.
SPEAKER_02There's a lot of these he dude, he kept freaking almost like encyclopedic records of all of his like stuff. He didn't seem to throw any of it out. So he was collecting, like he was a huge collector of abuse material, like that was his thing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, some sort of yeah, like a hoarder almost in that order.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like he didn't like discard it or whatever, like it's still somewhere, and all like I said, all the stuff isn't released. Yeah, one of the interesting things I found today is his passport had that he was a sex offender on it. See if I can yeah, he had to disclose that he was a sex offender. This is it. EFTA zero and go back there and just hit pause. Do you want to read that?
SPEAKER_01Uh oh my god, the bearer, the bearer was convicted of a sex offense against a minor and is covered. Oh sorry, and is a covered sex offender pursuant to 22 United States Code Section 212 BCC. JC1J. Wow. Okay.
SPEAKER_02So this is that how his name on the very bottom I can't see that on there.
SPEAKER_01It just says no endorsements, uh mentions, specialties, annotations.
SPEAKER_02It's uh yeah, I'm pretty sure it's him because there's other pictures of him with his passport. It's out of his file, so yeah. Crazy man. There's there's a lot of stuff there, man. I mean, it's just we barely cover, we could do another show on Blink twice because we barely even covered it. But like it's just there's just so much information that's damning on so many different people. These guys are just lying to the public, like freaking like rugs, man. They're all in on it and they're all lying.
SPEAKER_01Well, we'll um I know you gotta get going, so I'll uh I'll I'll watch the movie and uh I'll watch Under the Silver Lake, and then maybe uh if you have the time we can do an episode, we can do both. Sure, whatever two-hour spectacular, yeah. Yeah, whatever we want to do. So um it's so good to see you, man. Thank you for your time. Uh yeah, good to see you too before you go. Just let everyone know where they can find you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, William Ramsey Investigates podcast. Website is William Ramsey Investigates. You can find my books on Amazon, and I posted a lot on X, so I'm posting. You can start, you can just scroll back through all of my through. I haven't been censored on X, which is a shocker.
SPEAKER_01You can go a lot of good stuff on X.
SPEAKER_02You can put January 30th and just start scrolling through all the stuff I've researched because I put it out there. I've had crazy, I had 50, I've had 50 million impressions since January 30th.
SPEAKER_00Good for you.
SPEAKER_02It's a lot, like I'm usually not close to that. So, and then the one of the biggest ones was these Brazil ones, yeah. Picks of Jeff with other um victims and stuff. So it's a lot of information on there. Anyway, great to talk with you. I'm gonna run. Peace. Until next time.
SPEAKER_01I'll be in touch soon, man. See ya. All right, bye. All right, guys. Um, just a short one for you today, but um, you know, it's always nice to have William in the house. Um, we will bring him back as soon as we can. Um, let's see, what do we got? Tomorrow we got Ryan Dawson, and then we have uh Courtney Turner coming up, we have Austin Wade Picard coming up, JJ Vance. Um yeah, a lot of good shows. Uh, we'll get William back. Uh we're gonna get Brad Binkley back, and um yeah, I have a few other interesting guests coming. Uh Bart Sabrell's gonna be coming on the Moon Man. Um and yeah, I have I I still have a few other shows to book for the end of the month. Um, I'll be doing that tonight. And uh yeah, so watch uh check out Blink Twice and make sure to watch Under the Silver Lake uh because that looks like a fucking intense movie, a lot of interesting stuff, and we're gonna be covering that soon with William Ramsey. So uh yeah, make sure to please also subscribe to the Divulgence Podcast on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Um please show the support. Much appreciated. Uh also check out the Scott Horton Academy if you uh want a discount, go to scothort and academy.com. Um, we'll talk. I'll I'll talk a bit more about the academy uh next show, perhaps. And um yeah, I think that's about it, guys. Enjoy the rest of your day, all the best, and we'll see you tomorrow evening. 7 sorry, 8 p.m. Eastern. Be there.