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#123: Codewords of the Rich and Heinous, Epstein Files Deep Dive w/ William Ramsey

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We welcome back friend of the show, William Ramsey (author, filmmaker, podcaster) to discuss the many codes found in the Epstein files. We also discuss pizzagate, the Podesta files, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Bill Gates and other tech lords who hung out with Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein house manual and shopping lists (what the lists lack is shocking), whether there are deer on Epstein Island, Francis Derby, why/how Epstein was eating 'irregular' food, and much more!

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SPEAKER_04

All right, welcome back to Divulgence, everybody. We have a special Jeffrey Epstein episode. We're diving deep back into the Epstein files. And who better to do it with, uh, other than uh my boy Hasburg Jolly West, and of course, uh researcher, filmmaker, podcaster, William Ramsey. William, how are you, man? Good to see you again.

SPEAKER_03

Do good. Thanks for having me back. Good to be with you. Thanks for the invite.

SPEAKER_04

Always good to see you. Um, all right. So you've been doing some uh some really good research on essentially code words um and code messages that are being found in the emails and other uh business regarding the Epstein files. Um, so that's where we're gonna do today. So let's start. We're gonna pull up your there's a lot of things. So where would you like to start, buddy?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I think I feel like we just like you can scratch the surface. Like I could sent you like 80 slides saying about 15 that I did, but it's just like there's a lot there. There's a lot going on. This actually, the reason I put this one on here is like this woman sent after Epstein was arrested on uh the 6th and then taken to the MCC on the 8th of July 2019. This woman sent him something, and it's actually very telling, like, there's a lot of great questions here. And um, this is all to Jeffrey Berman. If you remember, he is the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. But he's asking, you know, all these really good questions. Spanish fly, did he put him in a stupor? Did he use drugs on the poor girls? What did John Wen Gacy do with the young boys he had sex with when he was done with them? And so a lot of the stuff is like coded terms of like every criminal group, even subgroups, mafia, whatever, they usually talk in some form of code or they have slang that means things like sleep with the fishes. They don't really mean you're gonna go fishing, they mean they're gonna put you in a body. So I think that that this woman is kind of uh putting that across, and then you can go right into these kind of code words that are strange, and they also rhyme and are similar to terms that were used in the Podesta emails, and that's where kind of Pizzagate kind of branched out of was these um emails that were released by WikiLeaks back in 2016, which had an effect upon the politics, like literal political and cultural effect on that election. And and Hillary Clinton is still bitching about it, actually. She came out of her deposition with um with Congress saying, you know, oh, these pedestrians, those pizzagate thing is the biggest baloney. It wasn't. There's tons of terms in Podesta's emails that are similar to Jeffrey Epstein's. So I think that's very instructive. And this Epstein files was a big topic of conversation in this most recent election in 2024. So I think it's very important to see what these kind of groups, these secretive groups of people with similar interests, pedophilia, trafficking, and it seems like cannibalism we're talking about. And this is like the first one is like this whole idea of chocolate sauce and nourishing the inner worlds of children, like it's as a double meaning. When you're talking with somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, where to find new help, Africa slavery. Are you having fun? Jeffrey wrote, and somebody wrote back fantastic. Like, what's going on? These to me are all code words, and it's like in a children's book, it's weird.

SPEAKER_04

Where to find yeah, this one really I couldn't figure out where to find new help.

SPEAKER_03

New help. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04

It's an inside joke. Oh, and there's a link there. Oh, I see. Chocolate is uh is a name for black people. Okay, so yeah, so the article has got something to do with African slavery. Um, okay, so I see what's going on here. All right, and then I want to know what this chocolate sauce books is. What the hell is that?

SPEAKER_03

You can find it online. We know that he actually took kind of an infamous flight with Bill Clinton and an African-American actor and uh Ghillaine Maxwell to Africa, I think 2001 or 2002, something like that.

SPEAKER_05

There's Chris Tucker, Chris Tucker and Kevin and Kevin Spacey.

SPEAKER_04

So I'm not giving anything for the chocolate child books. It says the domain.

SPEAKER_03

I think you can go to I think you can go under this author's name. I think it's in there, or you can put it in um I think I saw it on Amazon. Did you put it into Amazon? No, but I'll uh okay. Try um inner worlds. Try chocolate sauce books or nourishing inner worlds. I think the website's still functional.

SPEAKER_05

Or there's a YouTube channel. Seven followers. Yeah, not a huge. Yeah, like what the hell is this?

SPEAKER_03

This is just the beginning. That's it's scratching the surface. This is the other one. I don't know if we talked about oh, this is the this is uh ritualistic sacrifice of feet and eating babies things. This is goes all the way to the NYPD, but it's talking about like eating intestines and feces from the intestines. Have you seen this one before?

SPEAKER_04

I looked at it, yeah. Yeah, that one's wild.

SPEAKER_03

Um, and then and then it's like the cream cheese, like you can go through, but I actually skipped one. This one is basically media mainstream is saying Glaine Maxwell had a Blackberry format issue, and all the emails were dated Saturday, January 4501. And those dates are between 2001-2003. And if you pop forward, that's what the date is on this email, and it says the snipe hunt is over, moon crickets in field bag. Guess what? Their n-word. So, what do you what does this mean to you?

SPEAKER_04

Uh what once, especially after you in your files here, you have you have you break down what a moon cricket is. So I'm reading that with you know a decoding lens on. I'm thinking, okay, they're out hunting, they're out looking for moon crickets, they're out looking for black children, likely, um, to either be to to to likely be some sort of sexual slave. Um, and right.

SPEAKER_03

Do you know what a field bag is?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they found, yeah. So go sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm just gonna say a field bag is specific to hunting. You take a burlap bag out, and when you find prey, you stick it in the field bag. That's what Rex Hewerman was doing at Lisk. He'll put all his victims, like his uh female prostitute victims, in field bags and dump them out by the beach. So something dark's going on here. Like I would say somebody should investigate her or what else she's talking about.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, did you speaking of Rex? Did you see that he's gonna he I he seems to be agreeing that he's gonna sign on with the FBI to do some kind of like mine hunter assistance help with uh with tracking and killing or tracking and catching killers?

SPEAKER_03

I did not. I did see he pled guilty though, right? Didn't he plead guilty to the crimes?

SPEAKER_04

That was that was that was part of the deal. So he's uh he's pleading guilty, but he I I he's probably gonna get you know all sorts of perks and stuff. Uh uh obviously he he doesn't he's not gonna have to spend so much time in jail, they're gonna be pulling him out and stuff to uh, or at least not in his cell, uh, to be doing field work and and interviews and uh you know investigational operations. So I'm sure I'm sure he'll enjoy it because he's obviously a sick individual, and some of these people like to be involved in the very crimes that they commit, uh, or similar crimes. So uh yeah, I mean, I think I I I I don't know. Like obviously the FBI needs the help, but uh for him, it's like I think it's like a win-win deal for him.

SPEAKER_03

If the if I mean it doesn't sound like they're bargaining well, because for me, Hewerman was probably involved in more crimes than he got busted for. Yeah, many. I don't I think that there's more than eight because the guy was moving around like a smart killer. Vegas, North Carolina. I forgot what other city he was in.

SPEAKER_04

Like he's moving around like like he wasn't a fit guy either, right? So normally some of these killers, they at least are they're tall, fit, lanky. Uh but but uh like John Wingacy or or Rex, like, yeah, you know, it's a bit of a they said he was like an ogre, they remind of an ogre.

SPEAKER_03

That's how he's described by one of the victims. He's a big, gigantic guy, man. So anyway, these guys have code terms. I mean, he had his own on his computer, he would write down stuff, so I don't know. It is interesting, but somebody somebody on my social media like went through all these words. I had no idea what any of those terms meant.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know what a moon cricket is or snipe hunting, but well, the the snipe hunt thing is something that like uh you know, uh like kid, it's like kind of like a kid game where they you know you take like kids out at night and you know it's kind of like looking for like kind of a fictional creature, you know. It's it's like kind of a yeah, um, it's like it's like a game, you know, that that you play with kids, you know.

SPEAKER_04

Um to get them to like stop bothering you, right? So you can go have a beer with your boys, like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of, you know, it's it's like, oh, like a snipe is like this like mythical creature, and you're out like in the woods, like you know, looking for it at some kind of like kind of like goblin or something, you know. That I think that that's what what it's you know referring to.

SPEAKER_03

Um somebody needs to ask Elaine about this, they're thinking about giving her privileges or something crazy. Oh, she's involved in all kinds of darkness, man.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, oh yeah, she knows what these words mean. Like, this is the kind of stuff they need to be asking, in addition to you know, their bullshit questions that likely won't get anywhere. Uh, they need to be looking into like doing some serious investigative work and putting these puzzle pieces together, not just you know, did you see Clinton or did you see Trump or this? Like, they got to start figuring out this network, this these communications, what's actually going on, right? Like, even people like us who are actually trying to figure out what's going on, we're still having a tough time figuring out what's going on. So, um, yeah, that's where priority should be.

SPEAKER_03

Good point. They didn't know, I think it's unraveling all of this elite criminality. They don't participate in some of the stuff, so they're not familiar with it, but also the rollout and the redactions make it hard to even investigators like us, it's like going through puzzle pieces. So you're trying to figure out what the heck they're really doing. I mean, imagine the stuff that isn't redacted, like that must be incredible. Like the redaction, I did it in an earlier show today. The fact that they're all redacted in itself is incredible. Like, somebody went through an incredible amount of time to redact all this stuff, and they still let stuff slip through like that email. Like, they didn't know, probably didn't know what it meant. They're just like, Yeah, nothing's there next.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because they're not uh yeah, because they're not looking at it with that proper lens, right? Um, yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it's it's it's incredible. There was a guy, these guys that do the um they do like uh I can't what's the name of the show, but it's basically like the you know, people who have they did an they they analyzed an interview with Ghlaine Maxwell, and her like body responses and physical like body language were like so many tells, he said, and a deep revulsion, like she would go like one a barf and stuff, like she would talk about stuff, and like he says she's just covering up so much stuff they never bust her for.

SPEAKER_04

That's another big thing is this uh body language and uh picking up these kind of psychological cues. You're seeing a lot more videos, like I think Dr. G explains is one that I've seen a lot. He's been doing a lot of videos, and a few other people that are um into that kind of thing, and it's it's interesting, and we got we gotta kind of use whatever we have, right? So we all kind of have to come together. I've I've even seen good info coming from um uh someone who works at a morgue. She runs a channel, and she uh I watched a video how she broke down uh a photo of Epstein where we don't know where it is, what it is, it's just a photo that's been given to us. We've talked about it, uh William, where he's uh asleep and or sorry, he's he's his eyes are closed, he may or may not be dead, we don't know what's going on, and it seems that they're trying to push this to us, push this to us as a death photo. But she's saying everything is everything that in my training is is saying that this is not a death photo, he is not dead in this photo, he's very much alive. So um we gotta watch out with with some of this info that doesn't have any explanation to it. Um they may want us to just make an assumption about it, and then that's the that's that's the truth that that is run with, right?

SPEAKER_03

Right. The guy, his name is Chase Hughes. I listen to him a lot, he does a good job, but yeah, his body language stuff is very interesting about Maxwell. You want to go to the next one? Yeah, moon cricket from derived from slaves, weary and working through the night.

SPEAKER_04

This is sort of the night, right? Yeah, sad, man. Scary scary stuff. Yeah, scary stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Like what when you put it into like the context. This is another one from Jeff. He says to somebody who's redacted, there are millions of babies, very little good vegetable cream cheese, and it goes back to this earlier one where they're talking about eating intestines and stuff, and somebody thinks that this cream cheese is some kind of like thing that they eat from uh bodies and stuff, it's gross. And then this whoever's writing it's this is 2000 lol. I don't know if cream cheese and baby are on the same level, right? It's okay, there's still enough time today. I'm trying to schedule priming for 530 fuel explosion, 945. Like, what's this in reference to? I mean, maybe they're talking about an engine, it seems weird.

SPEAKER_04

Habsburg, what do you think, buddy? What are they talking about here? Is this an engine?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's so it's so crit, it's so cryptic, man. You know, like who knows? You know, the the cream cheese could be like a lot of you know, various different substances, um, you know, that um you know it could be things like bone marrow or something like that. I mean, I don't know, yeah. Hesitate to really think about it.

SPEAKER_03

When in human existence on your in this plane of existence, have you ever heard the terms cream cheese and baby in the same sentence? Twice. So the one gets cream cheese baby at the same level level, very little good vegetable cream cheese babies millions. What the hell do they mean?

SPEAKER_04

I don't know. Okay, there are millions of babies, very good vegetable cream cheese. So I wonder what vegetable means.

SPEAKER_06

Jesus Christ, these are rare title and it's titled cream cheese baby, right?

SPEAKER_03

Like the EFTA is EFTA 018-29017. You can do you can just type that into the justice.gov thing.

SPEAKER_00

Look for yourself. I don't know. And to your point about the redactions, too. I mean, like, just considering like we don't know who this was sent to. I mean, that that can like be you know able to reveal a lot of information just in terms of like who is this person that he's having a conversation with about it, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's a massive cover-up. Yeah, it's just you know the more I look at it, the bigger it is. It's just like Trump and the cronies thought they were gonna cover it all up, and it's it's not working.

SPEAKER_04

Now they're all falling to the wayside, man.

SPEAKER_03

This is uh 99 Johnny Graz. When Epstein monsters talk about the wonderful cream cheese they're eating, this is what they're talking about eating coagulated mother's milk from intestines of partially killed infants. Yeah, this isn't something that wasn't yeah, so I keep it. You can check this out online. I think the date is on there, March 12th. It's fairly recent. I I don't know. I mean, I I are they like that's what see he also say feces, they're not eating they that's the whole thing about this earlier email. It's they don't understand what's going on, right? They're not eating feces from this one, not per se, but yeah, this person doesn't understand intestines removed, eating the feed, they're not eating, they're eating something else. Like, that's how gross it is, dude. Like, this is freaking uh so heavy cold type stuff.

SPEAKER_04

And and for those listening, the uh the mess the uh the content we're looking at here, so uh it says coagulate quag coagulating milk inside of livestock stomachs and intestines is how cheese was discovered. Even today, cheesemakers add rennet from cow stomachs to begin the curdling process. When the Epstein monsters talk about wonderful cream cheese they're eating, this is what they're talking about eating coagulated mother's milk from the intestines of freshly killed infants. Uh, this isn't something that was invented by Epstein, this is knowledge and practice that goes back thousands of years. Yeah, man, like yeah, so uh again, it's not it's not feces per se in the traditional sense, but but but yeah, like it's actually a credit to the writer because he doesn't know what's going on, you know.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, Oh, I don't get it, but these, yeah, this is yeah, yeah. So it's one way to look at it. Like, oh, who who would know this? Like, this is like totally specialized knowledge. Should I drop off your two Jeffrey Epstein? Should I drop off your cheese around three or leave at 301 for someone to pick up?

SPEAKER_04

So I wonder if uh I guess I guess uh cheese and cream cheese are interchangeable. Do you think? Is that something that you I don't know?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, one of the things that you have to put it into context, Jeff had at least for a certain time, I don't know what years, but he have a had a private chef. He never cooked anything. There's never any pictures or any leisure moments of him taking time to make food or anything. It's there's guys over him delivering food, he's sitting at table, so he didn't do all that stuff. Um, so why are they always worried about jerky and cheese and cream cheese and all the shrimp and all the stuff? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

And one of his chefs is like a really famous guy, I think in LA now, uh, Adam something. Do you remember?

SPEAKER_03

Um, yeah, 100% do. He was on Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he's like a celebrity chef guy.

SPEAKER_04

He didn't ask him anything about Epstein, like anything meaningful, he just let that completely fly over. Why the hell would you have him on? Like, come on, man. No wonder people are are finally sick of Rogan because uh that's just a huge disappointment, man. Like, what are you trying to pull?

SPEAKER_03

People are saying, Oh, they tried to get Rogan to go to the island. Who cares? The island went to Rogan. The entire Jeffree Network, Jeffrey Epstein Network is on there. It's like almost everybody, like, you can go through the cover-ups. There's so many people covering up for this stuff, they're all on rogue kraus and oh god, teal musk, these guys are all in the files. Like it just, I mean, musk isn't that overt, he was in the files from 2013 and 2014, saying, like, I want to go and party, but teal is very much in those files up until fairly recently, 2018, you know, before Epstein was aced, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00

And and with with Musk, I mean, there's like pictures of him, you know, at these um, you know, Edge Foundation, you know, events. Right, you know, with Epstein's there too. Yeah, like at yeah, like they're they're at like tables right behind each other, and there's pictures of Elon Musk like with his arm around Delane Maxwell at like know some events and you know like they definitely you know were connected um it's uh i think everybody's everybody distanced themselves from maxwell and epstein and you can see why you know these guys this guy's a monster he's a criminal so you know but the that's the whole thing about the release of these files is that it really shows how they can message stuff to the public what they want like I was never there I saw him in 2005 and that was it I never went to the island right so they didn't go to the island but you're in the mansion all the time so who gives you know it's like these are things that they give to the public to like just uh deceive them but and you you say like people distance themselves but like not you know not before uh I mean not after like he was already convicted of you know sex crimes in like 2009 people you know all these people were still hanging out with them you know uh in like the uh 20 teens um you know Bill Gates and Musk and all these guys you know I mean like they everybody knew you know that he had already been convicted and they were you know they were far from distancing themselves from him at that point you know they're yeah he's a convicted felon exactly and and you know like they they were certainly willing to overlook that a registered sex offender do you know he had to he had to register every six months in four different jurisdictions because he was moving around so much so he was had to do Virgin Islands my uh Florida New York and New Mexico so yeah he's a he's a convicted felon but yeah I mean there the this is the tip of the iceberg these code words I mean I could do that thousand shows they're just talking in code constantly this is him I think looking at child porn or something I'm surprised this one slipped through torture I'm still waiting and watching the melted cheese drip smiley face via blackberry like this one is so weird do you did you add the photo to to this text or did you just it the text is on the bottom of a photo like where is it let me see if I can find the actual photo I just I just zoomed in so you could read the whole thing let me see if I can find that photo it's uh it's like that's weird yeah like the photo it's like it's all uh is it a photo within a photo or is it a screenshot of a face call of a video call this is the whole this is the whole photo I think it's it looks like he's like on FaceTime yeah right that's what I'm thinking yeah this is the whole photo you can see the EFTA number at the bottom right okay yeah yeah that's a shoulder okay I thought that was the breast but okay yeah definitely uh face call it's it's some kind of rudimentary like Mac or something right yeah it's uh it's a video it looks like a an uh a video editing program maybe like a slideshow program or something I think it's windows from a very early ver like a Macintosh that's the way it looked and you could do these little pop-up windows and Jeff is in it bottom pop up still waiting adja 2102 I see what's happening yeah there's all these different windows okay and they're all photos okay yeah and these are okay the okay yeah yeah he seems to be talking with somebody online a woman this woman who's blacked out in the middle there's two other pictures of something I don't know they're black they're they're redacted and there's Jeff at the bottom and I think he's saying I'm still waiting and watching melted cheese drip do you think that's oh no because that's a photo so we're not actually looking at the chat so that looks like maybe it's just in the background right from the other windows I think that's what's happening it's just weird that he's got that whoever's computer this is it must be maybe Epstein's but he's just got that open uh underneath that um that message that's weird well if it is his computer it makes sense why he's like in the bottom corner with the front facing camera yep like if it were you know if if it were on his but it also again it's just a photo right so it's hard to tell that but you can but you can take still photos like what yeah while you're on a while you're on a video conference like you can like a screenshot yeah yes take screenshots yeah yeah it would likely be him taking it so yeah go look that up EFTA 01154457 I don't know interesting I mean I think that cheese and like if it's kids this is like one of the most revolting references because these children like when they're abused like it's horrible like that's what's I don't even want to get into how graphic it is all right the next uh next slide is oh we can both control it okay so here we go this is what really I find very disturbing is the shrimp talk so let's get into the shrimp talk this is his this is this picture of a baby in a in a sink above his kitchen titled shrimp cocktail there's the EFTA number right there you can see it in the files and then um of course you've added some well this is a screenshot I took of somebody else's research but he's talking to this guy Olivier Colomb who's from France who got in trouble for being associated with with uh Epstein but it says no some are like Trump you throw away the head and keep the body like but they're talking about code words and things it's like um you can see it's from the same day on my island in the Caribbean with an aquarium full of girls the king of Saudi Arabia has a few white sharks in his in his Sajetta Palace I totally prefer yours sure I would enjoy the view two are Russian I guess some might refer to them as white sharks as long as you don't have any hammerhead ones I like white sharks no some are like shrimp you throw away the head and keep the body that's from Jeff there's a what is it a slave is it a sex slave I don't know hey I'm okay what is your thought on that maybe we're missing that maybe we're missing some messages somehow and missing replies because some of these replies I don't know they just sometimes they just don't seem to fit and I don't know maybe they're all whacked out on whatever they're doing when they're sending these and it's just it's okay for example as long as you don't have any hammerhead ones I like white sharks response no comma some are like shrimp comma like it's is he I don't know I don't know it's weird I get that they're making maybe it's just because it's they're making the the are they making a um uh a reference to girls being sharks and then he's saying no they're more like shrimp is that what he's getting at there's a reference I don't know if it's in these slides but where a girl is talking and it's like a prepubescent girl reminds the pedophiles of a shrimp so they call them shrimps there's something there's some so in one of the books I think about Epstein it's referenced uh okay I wonder if like shrimp you know refers to like a very small you know girl like your shrimp you know diminutive and a shark might be like an actual adult female I mean I don't know maybe yeah but but I mean he definitely was into like you know Russian women I mean now you know he surrounded himself with with you know Russian women so like you know talking about Russians or white sharks I mean you know he was trafficking from all over the world Russia East Europe Norway or Swedish countries or what Nordic countries Brazil Mexico US it's a huge operation yeah hamburger do you want to what time is the hamburger do over like what's that you want to do over why don't you just have a hamburger do you want to have hamburgers again hamburger tour with Hanson I don't know maybe it's really a hamburger what is John Luke called to see John Luke called to see if you might like a hamburger he's on his way to Paris like I don't call my friends up and say do you want a hamburger I'm going to Paris right and you go you want to go get a hamburger do you want to meet me at so and so for hamburgers I wonder um the thought of uh the word vegetable comes to mind now because we have the word vegetable which I I'm thinking is a code and then we have hamburger I wonder if they are like two opposite sides of the coins uh but yeah I mean he's on his way to Paris I don't think he's you'd be concerned with getting a a burger a an actual hamburger for any for Jeffrey again he's got chefs um or he he just has people to do shit for him he doesn't need to cook or so many he he has so many he's got people all around him he's got people to do his taxes he's got people to do whatever accounting cleaning he's got all kinds he's got like a retinue so like these are these don't make sense and I mean that's presumably they're referring to Jean-Luc Brunel too so I mean you know he's one of the you know similar level operators you know in the network there's tons of those pictures of those two together yeah yeah and he was he was like coming to visit him in jail you know he was like one of the the people who was like regularly visiting him while he was in prison New Mexico Little St.

SPEAKER_04

James Brunel is all they're just almost intertwined like and then Brunel gets jailed and decides to die by suicide in France what a shock to Jeffrey go ahead you mean radiating a soft glow with a look of bliss and excitement yeah that's the pizza but the preceding one is he writes Jeff writes she looks pregnant pregnant yeah pizza monster I you know like there's probably a picture associated with this somewhere oh um someone in the chat just made an interesting comment I pray vegetable doesn't mean a mentally challenged job yeah that would be dark that would be just super dark they were very obviously very discriminative so uh I feel like uh they would discriminate against disabled children immediately I could be wrong but who knows um if you don't mind going back actually uh to the can we do the muffin the muffin yeah it's just that some people think this is one that's not a code word it's not because he had he had specialty muffins so he actually had every morning he had a muffin at 7 a.m at 7 a.m that he microwaved for 25 seconds and sprayed with I can't believe it's not butter oh it is that every morning that was his eating habits mandatory a m routine must be served on the table he he he had this like have you seen his uh rules of the house that he made people read it makes him and maxwell look like just total pricks like you just don't look say Mr ma'am and never call it or is there or is there um like a document there's a list there's like a list copy on in the Epstein files of him with the house rules I'm gonna have to find that because I think right now let me see okay cool because yeah that's uh that's an interesting thing to look at but uh okay while you're doing that I'll just uh I'll get into this muffin thing a bit more so you're saying it's not a code word okay so uh this person here black betty posted Epstein and associates have used the code word muffin over 300 times in the text not counting muffins with the capital S uh and this was just brought to my attention uh of course there's the do you know the muffin man uh fable uh apparently this person is saying through their digging they have found that Epstein loved old fables um do we know if that's true I don't know because that's the first I've I think that's the first I've heard of that um but yeah the Muffin Man wasn't a fairy tale he was a warning in the 1700s muffins weren't sweet they were cheap door to door sold items and that meant strangers had legitimate access to your home uh and yeah the line do you know the muffin man wasn't a playful line it was more a question of survival uh because the muffin man lived on Drury Lane a real street known for violence poverty disappearances and crime there were no police patrols no birth records no missing persons report is someone vanished they were simply gone some historians believe um tra some traveling food sellers uses use trust as a weapon to enter homes scout families and commit crimes that would never be traced that's scary as hell at the thought of it anyways so but uh yeah that's interesting he had his uh specialty muffins muffin recipe okay what a shitty breakfast routine for such a you know bond villain of a guy the other thing I mean you know with the with the um like the uh the the bran and the flaxseed I mean you know it sounds like you know he was you know he was using these things for um you know to stay regular to say I hate to yeah you know with like whatever you know meat you know he was consuming the hamburgers and the um all the the beef jerky and hamburgers and cream cheese you know he needed sorry gotcha no no I hear you man that's that's good that's a great point though that is a good point it is unfortunately we have to get a little dirty in our research environment it's just awful no all good all good gotta stay regular even Jeffrey Epstein apparently okay so yeah this telephone manual yes I have seen this um it's not from the it's not from the most recent files it's from the 2020 one yeah it's from the files when she was persecuted or prosecuted excuse me when she was prosecuted in 2012 or 2022 but still it's still kind of interesting it's pertinent it's relevant nothing say nothing nothing except to answer a question directed at you use your judgment when conveying information to Mr. Epstein channel all questions and concerns through the estate manager uh items in pockets must not create a bulge or be visible like how detailed is that like I don't want to see your keys in your pocket like what the funk like also maybe my first thought right there is that way if I do see something in your pocket I I know it's not supposed to be there and I I'm gonna assume that you're stealing something or you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing so I'm gonna jump on you right away so for just to keep it simple keep your fucking pockets empty maybe it's something like that you know like USB drives keys or something you don't want to yeah they even have proper language here we go proper language exclude exclude swear words and slang pay attention how you speak to Mr. Epstein Miss Maxwell and their guests you do not say yeah sure no problem you bet gotcha right I don't know you do say yes Mr. Blank of course miss blank my pleasure it is no trouble at all with pleasure oh my god like holy I would be very pleased to it's all the same thing you are quite right I have no idea but I'll find out immediately to compliment this is how you have to compliment okay you're very kind thank you miss I enjoy doing it oh my god yeah nothing nothing shady going on here I'm very sorry to justify uh to a justified criticism or m to a justified criticism or mistake you say I'm very sorry it'll not happen again it was completely my fault I'll make the change immediately it's incredible stuff when entering a room what to say may I come in answering the phone oh yeah look at that big big thing on answering the phone guest pickup and drop off escorting guests to the room oh that might be interesting upon arrival guest blind offer to unpack their luggage show them how to use the phone showed them how to use the remote control for the television ask them to complete emergency contact information form and return it to you oh wow food allergies breakfast j e and gm telephone directories placed to the right of the telephone so it has to be in the right spot two lighted pens on both bedside tables Jeffrey Epstein large and small notepads on both bedside tables yeah he liked his notepads yeah yeah reading glasses on both bedside tables yeah he had all sorts of glasses too box of tissue look at his master bedroom bathroom toiletries like the specific brands like how specific like it has to be a different type of shaving crank oh here we go Gillette Mach 3 with extra blades change blade after every use there you go that's see that's something if I was dirty rich that's something that I would do I would change my blade every time if I shaved uh shaving cream secret original solid deodorant lever 2000 soap noxema plus face wash that's kind of weird about the deodorant like that secret is definitely like a like a brand that they make it to women yeah yeah yeah specifically that's what I would think yeah my secret my um california manga ocean aqua four hand cream bubble bath shower gels shampoo conditioner white rain coconut essence biology nexus simply silver paul Mitchell there we go paul Mitchell is in the Epstein files um B yeah it's interesting yeah I mean people have their specific brands I guess so oh miss oh yeah they have their own bathrooms she's not as specific it seems like check that water is hot and running clear water must be the last the last one photographs to be placed what photographs Closets and unlock the clos yeah. Unlock the closets. Photographs to be placed. Maybe they're in the closet.

SPEAKER_00

Like R. Kelly.

SPEAKER_04

Tissues replaced if less than half full. Oh, okay. Never mind. She's got even more than him. Okay, she's got three pages. Guest rooms. Guest bathrooms. Oh, they gotta fold into a V, the toilet paper. That's classy. Toiletry. Okay, guest toiletries. Oh my they're given the the guests arm and hammer toothpaste and they use the good stuff. That's that's not very nice.

SPEAKER_00

No, that's what it said on that's what it said on Epstein's list that that's what he was arm and hammer too? Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. And and like the scope. Yeah, I mean it's like pretty much. Secret, look at again.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Secrets again. That's interesting. Lip bomb. Damn, you got everything. Washcloth, exterior. The cabana, vehicles, bikes. Place a hundred bucks in the glove compartment or center console of each car. Telephone directories. Interesting. So again, Jeffrey Epstein, large and small notepads with pens. Box of tissues again. Two pairs of glasses again. Crazy. Alright, let's get back to. Thanks for that, William. Let's get back. I'll get that uh off the gate.

SPEAKER_03

No, go back there because what's not there is where's the beef jerky? He's always worried about jerky. There's no jerky on his shopping list or her shop. Right, right, right. Where's these things on there? Go down the the uh shopping list is uh page 30. No jerky. Here we go. Where's the shrimp? Where's the white tuna? Where's the tuna?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no tuna. They're so worried about the tuna. Okay, so one Philadelphia cream cheese, cottage cheese. So there's that, but there's nothing else. I'm not seeing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, where's the white tuna? They're all worried about. Where's the shrimp? They're kosher, like Jeff. Like at a certain point, it's known that he was eating kosher. With shrimp, you're not supposed to eat like things on the hoof without hooves, right? You can't you can't have any any you can't have any shellfish, no shellfish, and you can't mix cheese and meat. Right. At the same time, yes, you're not allowed to meet the milk that it's from, yeah, you're not allowed to mix those.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, what what it is is you can um have milk, like like any like something with dairy in it, like I think 30 minutes before you can have meat. But if you have meat, you have to wait three hours before you have something with dairy in it, and you can't ever mix them together.

SPEAKER_04

Is that a religious thing or is that it's a religious stuff, right? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00

It's like yeah, it's it's from like in the old yeah, in the old testament.

SPEAKER_05

That old book in nonsense. Okay. Um advise any additional needs.

SPEAKER_00

But that's but but William, that is a really good point that like on the the shopping list that it's none of those foods that they talk about, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

See how like fastidious they are? Like, this is they put something they spent time putting together a 35-page list. Like, what a bunch of like uh layer splitting pricks they are. Yeah, where's all this stuff? Where is it? Why isn't it on this list? If they're having the jerky, you'd think that would be the most important thing there. Six pounds of jerky beef from this, and it's look at the look at how specific they are about their brands of their cosmetics. Why wouldn't they be that specific about jerky?

SPEAKER_00

And the the food in general, like I mean, they eat a lot of like gross, like processed, you know, uh, you know, foods with you know nasty ingredients and um also the like the I can't believe it's butter and all the you know, it's like they're eating nasty stuff, dude.

SPEAKER_04

That's an embarrassing one. Out of all everything in the Epstein files, that's probably the one thing that's gonna embarrass him the most is that everything. I can't believe it's not butter.

SPEAKER_00

But I mean you'd be thinking that they you know they'd be wanting like all organic everything, you know, they could afford it, they're eating like you know, Philadelphia cream cheese, Dan and yogurt, like it's like pretty swaggy stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's one thing that's consistent is there's no concern about expenses in a way, like there's no we're like, okay, just pay the bill, let's go, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but they could be, you know, they could they could be getting like all of their food from like local farmers and you know, people like you know, people that are making like craft, you know, cheeses and yogurt, like you know, they're just buying like gross stuff off the shelf, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's true. So it's odd.

SPEAKER_00

It just you know kind of kind of goes that maybe speaks to their you know, like their character uh just in whatever way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they're both awful people. Glenn Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein are awful human beings.

SPEAKER_04

No ice cream either. I didn't see. I know you have some stuff on ice cream coming up if we uh have time to get to it. So that's interesting. No ice cream, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's where's the jerky? Where's the pizza? Why isn't there a frozen pizza on there? You know, yeah, no dough. If you're eating other slop, why don't you put a de journo's pizza on there? Can I bring your slides of pizza? Oh, this is no, this is the one this is massage, is his code word for like sexual abuse. Oh, you want to have a massage that usually led to uh sexual abuse in Jeff's thing, that's why I included that. Another known kind of term for kids back in the day was to refer them as chicken, and this is kind of an interesting one from Dick Cabot. The chicken matter touches my heart. Like these terms just doesn't make the he doesn't say the chicken dish or the way you cooked the dish the chicken was great or the chicken meal. The chicken matter touches my heart. What the hell is he talking about?

SPEAKER_05

Child matter touches my heart.

SPEAKER_03

Dick Cabot from Dick.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, sometimes the subject lines help too, obviously, but sometimes they're so direct that it kind of also throws you off a bit.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, imagine being like Epstein at the center of this nexus where you know all these people are stone cold pedophiles. Like he knows what the L is a pedophile, and all these other people, like it's like a dark network. Like this is Dick Cabot, too. Like he has a public image, but the chicken stuff is kind of a giveaway, man. It's like, whoa. Crazy. Here's good dissident media's like uh assumed what the guest names are. White tuna, dead white woman, chicken parm, child porn, chicken soup, child sex, hot dog pizza, girl, hot dog boy, pasta, little boy, cream cheese, newborn, organic carrots, ginger, girl, walnut, non-white, sauce, orgy, jerky, human flesh, and then you have down there, you have all these little things he's talking about, you know. How do we deal with the frozen white tuna? Oh, right, order pizza for Bobby Slayton.

SPEAKER_00

That it's weird. I I've met Bobby Slayton before, he's a weird guy. There's he's he's all over the files, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

He sure is. He was there, he's at the mansion.

SPEAKER_00

A bunch, a bunch, he's there a lot, and and yeah, and they're like in their back and forth, they're always talking about getting pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh should I order it?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he loves comedians, Jeffrey.

SPEAKER_00

And Bobby Slayton, he would he was like his, you know, kind of the guy that would he would use to like recruit other comedians to come to his house. Like he was using Bobby Slayton as his like conduit. It's really weird. Like I said, I I met him like you know, I don't know, 10 years ago, and he he's he's a creepy guy.

SPEAKER_03

He's an influence guy, so he did that same thing. And there's actually an email there in there about uh Andrew's wife, Fergie, where she's telling Epstein, like, all you did for me for me, Epstein, was use me to get to Andrew. I know what you did, right? Like, so she finally figured out that that was his she was the stepping stone to get into the royal family, you know. And then she ruined he ruined her his life, he ruined Andrew's life. Like, if you people think that they would let um let Epstein live, like they're super naive, like they would never let this guy get out of jail after they've realized they were being blackmailed. Like, do you think that Andrew would go to the mansion knowing he was gonna blackmail the royal family? He'd end up getting sued for 12 million pounds. Like, give me a break, of course not. Like, once people realize they're being blackmailed or they're getting influenced, they're gone. So, all these people didn't know, they thought Jeff was his buddy. And once that happens, and then they're like, Oh, like I'm on the line, and they're taking pictures of me with freaking Virginia Jeffrey. Like, who's taking that picture? Like, that there's that famous picture of Jeffrey and Andrew and Maxwell, Elaine Maxwell in London. Jeffrey took that. Well, there you go. So, like, he's that's his that's his that was his leverage on them, and then it got out, and then there was evidence.

SPEAKER_00

But you know, I mean, you also have like you know, Andrew's big brother Charles is hanging out with you know his best friend was Jimmy Savile. I mean, you know, like that's the you know, they they they each kind of had their connection to one of these guys, you know, Savile or Epstein, they're kind of like you know, same, you know, Savile's in the files, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, yeah Savile's in the files, and see she seems to have known Savile, uh Gillian Maxwell, which is which is crazy. And there was a a meeting in um New Orleans in like early 12 2000s where they met up with Savile. So that's the type of New Orleans, but yeah, it was at some trade meeting. The Weinstein was there too, the like super rapist. But like the the British royalty plays for keeps, like they may have an image of like um upright things, but if you cross them, they have immense power. It's not a joke. That royalty has like servitors and knights and landed aristocracy and the Masonic. Andrew was the head of the York right, so he's the head of the all the Masons in the York right in England. So when he got blackmailed, yeah, I mean, I can't imagine they're very they're very happy. Like, oh, okay, you blackmailed me, Jeff, and you ruined my reputation, and I'm the first royal that ended up getting arrested in 400 years. I'm not gonna harbor a grudge. Give me a freaking break. Like, some of these analysts are so they're lame. Like, you cannot you're messing with like a pampered, spoiled kid, and Andrew. You think he's not gonna try to get back at you? Give me a break. There's no way Epstein's alive, it's so freaking stupid. And Brunel, anybody who tells you that crap, also the protest doctor mate, there's no evidence of that, so the body switched out. It's just there is apparently the people who keep promoting this notion that Epstein is alive say that the medical examination of his body was different than an uh an operation that Epstein supposedly had, supposedly had his prostate removed. Nobody can find the evidence of that, so it's misinform and malinformation. So it's just like there's I mean, in any of these issues where there's vagaries, there's dis and misinformation. There's out there, there's people out there saying, like, being concerned about the Epstein files, you're panicking, it's a moral panic, it's almost like a satanic panic. Like, so us doing this is like we're moral panics, like, bro, they're talking about trafficking little kids. I don't think that's a they're not panicking, it's just a way to kind of uh minimize and and control this. Yeah, it's so great. I mean, some of these people they're all around Rogan. Rogan is just, I mean, he's drowning himself. Oh yeah, he's I mean, once people realize how bad this is and how many people were close, he literally had Epstein Islands on his podcast and distributed to the whole world. So people who say that these Epstein files and the Epstein network that's uncovered by these files is not important, they're the ones involved, the one are involved. That's why they're saying it's not important. Like Trump's saying, I'm not in the files. You're all over the files, bro. You're Trump is everywhere, so he's just deliberately lying, and all these other people are lying too, and it's exposed the cultural and political impact of Epstein and his network, it's not just Epstein, that's one of the things that they imparted to the public. Is like, okay, we busted Epstein 2019, uh, we arrested him, and now he's dead conveniently, and that's it. The story's over. That's what they message to the public. It's still a lie, it's a colossal lie. It's a good one, but a lot of people believe that, and they do that in criminal situations where there are like Rico cases or networks, like they'll bring up one guy, and then he's the scapegoat, and that's it, and he's done, and we don't have to do any more. They did that with David Burkowitz, you know, like, oh, it's Burkowitz, we got him, we're done. Move on. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and when you say scapegoat, too, I mean, um, and I and I know you gotta wrap it up here soon, William. And thank you for your time. But um, I think it's really interesting, like the date too of you know, Epistine's, you know, suicide. Um, August 10th just happened to be the same, you know, date as like the Labianca murders, it's um Robert De Grimston's birth date. Um, it's uh the day of the the first Scientology clear, you know, like August 10th is like a very, you know, ritually significant day um in history. And so um I think that you know, when you know, like the term scapegoat being like you know referential to like a ritual sacrifice, I think there's actually like you know, some you know deeper element that relates to the actual date of August 10th and his suicide. So just thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_03

Nothing would surprise me with these guys, they're into the cabbala, he knows all that stuff. He knows the helmet, the cabbala, all that stuff. Why don't we try to get through these? We're almost done. Let's go. Oh, yeah, go on. Cereal, so that's Rothschild. Like, why does this person who has an 180 billion dollar investment fund worried about cereal from Mav Jeff? This is from dissident media, they do good work, so I want to give proper credit to these guys' research.

SPEAKER_04

So uh from Jeff to Rothschild, I have your cereal. Can talk tonight around 2200.

SPEAKER_00

Oh well, and that the and that the Latin is like basically the Latin word for cereal is like sacrifice, sacrificium. I have your it's clear, it's a code word.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, it could mean sacrifice. I I hope. I mean, that's I mean, who knows? That's crazy. Ice cream boarding, my version of torture. Here we go, the ice cream, yes, strict diet, like dietary requirements. How about a hit list for next subjects? Ice cream board. This is Epstein Secrets. His friend replies, yes, great pecan pie, pumpkin pie, apple pie, cheesecake, kill me now. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

That's scary. Like, are they?

SPEAKER_03

Making my execution plan and trying to have something for you tomorrow. Bones, plastics, blood, and guts, all bound by science that I understand. Partners, fish, revenue jobs, gangsters. It's the same thing. Deer, like the one of the weird things about this thing is the deer incident where they went hunting for deer on Little St. James in the middle of the night and ground their boat on a reef. What there's deer on his island, exactly. Okay, all right, right. Like you can go see pictures of that island, it doesn't even look like there's a tree over 10 feet tall. Yeah, so like what's going on? Like, you want to go to the island in the middle of the night and go deer hunting. That's kind of like my vibe vibe, too. Like at 11 o'clock, I get this impulse to go hunting in the middle of the night on an island, like with likely no deer. You can look it up. Like, is there deer on Little St. James? And I yeah, I'll tell you, you're out of your mind. Play this video here. Play this video. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He wants to get to the bottom of this, and I want to get that closer. He wants to get to the bottom of this, and I want to get to the bottom of this because this is my ass. This is not y'all ass. Okay. I called you last night. You said you did not speak to Peter. Peter said he didn't come up and spoke to you.

SPEAKER_05

I'm looking, I'm talking to Peter.

SPEAKER_01

That's what it is. No, you come up with me after the fuck. You didn't come up with me with a fucking bullet clap. No one's calling me with a flood. I got the message from you, mm-hmm. Look at the bottom, look at the bottom. I mean, I don't even know what it's a fucking cross right now, right? This fuck makes no sense. This this is just completely, completely, this makes absolutely no sense.

SPEAKER_02

This is what I gotta take this talk about. So both of these guys. I said, You want these bears, you wait for the morning.

SPEAKER_01

And then all of a sudden, but that was the plan to kill them, wait till daylight, and then we dispose of them properly. And then I and then I get these calls in this in this book.

SPEAKER_04

Play that again. Please, yeah, yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Let's talk about I told both of these guys. I said, You want these deers, you wait for the morning.

SPEAKER_04

So if I told these guys, if you want these deer, you wait till the morning.

SPEAKER_01

But that was the plan to kill them, wait till daylight, and then we dispose of them properly.

SPEAKER_03

What's going on? Kill them, kill them, wait for the daylight. So they're doing it at night. That's what you can infer from. That or deduce from that, and then properly dispose of them. Like, why don't you just throw them in the water and let the fish eat them or like feed them to the sharks or something? I don't know. It just seems the whole thing seems sketchy.

SPEAKER_00

You, I mean, you really cannot hunt game at night, like, first and foremost. Like, it just doesn't work, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Play the rest of it. This is just strange, it doesn't make sense. Who is that?

SPEAKER_00

Who is that speaking? Do you I don't even know.

SPEAKER_03

I don't even know who she sounds like an African-American woman or somebody from the islands or something. She has an American accent, so I don't I think they must have brought her in. I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Let's say she's African American. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then and then I get these calls, and this and this bullshit happened. This is the man's true vote. It's bad enough, he don't have another boat. We don't have another boat. What are we gonna use? A barge? How much money is that gonna cost us to run the staff back and forth on a damn barge?

SPEAKER_00

So is this audio file like connected to an email or something?

SPEAKER_03

Like what's standalone? It's in the files. So some of the files are WAV files. Right. If you go to the actual website justice, not top type in the EFTA, I can show you how to do it. But you go to justice.com, there's 12 data sets, and then some of those data sets are all just WAV files, and somebody downloaded them all, the movies and stuff like that. So, like you can you, if you have the inclination, you can just like listen to those files, and somebody's listening to them. Like, this makes no sense, it makes no sense at all. Like, that was the plan. We're gonna wait till daylight and then get rid of these dead deer, you know.

SPEAKER_04

They had some kind of properly, properly, get rid of them properly.

SPEAKER_00

Like, what are the well and if and if she's saying we need to rent a barge, like how like how much like mass of like you know material are they needing to dispose of? Like, you know, that's not you know, like you know, the the volume of like whatever waste is would be significant if they're like we need a barge to carry this away.

SPEAKER_03

It's uh it it doesn't sound like deer to me, right?

SPEAKER_04

Well, uh just to just to add, um, I did google it. Um uh are there deer on the island of Little St. James? Yes, white-tailed deer inhabit the U.S. Virgin Islands, including the area surrounding Great St. James and Little St. James. They are known to swim between neighboring caves and islands. I didn't know that they were that well of swimmers.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I stand corrected. There are deer though.

SPEAKER_04

But maybe there's night, it seems weird.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, maybe they're just like how do you hunt deer at night? You know, that's that's the thing.

SPEAKER_04

I still think it's bullshit, but it looks like they're using uh an excuse or a code word that can blend in easily with with uh an alibi. Um but yeah, nighttime. I I I still find it hard to believe that there would be um deer on the island. I don't I like maybe there's some that'll swim there and back. I feel like they're taking the boat to go hunt somewhere else if they are actually hunting deer, but it's very suspicious, very suspicious.

SPEAKER_03

So this is kind of a retelling of it of the the story from that. Here's the EFTA number so that they're going over this and it's sent to Epstein of the a boat event. So she wrote it out. Rodriguez, I think, was one of the staff members.

SPEAKER_04

Do we know what little C is? Is that a boat? That's the boat, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think that's the boat.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think you're right.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, gears frozen food, Mark Lloyd is finance, linden Lee is the many companies, and Hyatt is sex slave, frozen food, right? Like, what's up with that? I don't have any idea.

SPEAKER_00

The the Hyatt is sex slave thing, though, is really interesting because who owns Hyatt is the Pritzkers, Pritzker family, right? And Tom Pritzker was like you know, one of Epstein's like main guys. So you know, Hyatt is sex slave. Like uh, I think I think that that's a Pritzker reference personally, but makes perfect sense.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, this is better than the Chinese cookie, too, Jeff. See attached. Let's go for pizza and grape soda again. No one else can understand. Go now or go no. Like these guys are high-end.

SPEAKER_05

They're high, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Pizza and grape soda doesn't make sense. And Derby is the chef.

SPEAKER_04

Let's see, there he is. When are you ever specific to what kind of soda you're gonna get? But yeah, I mean, especially if you're rich like that.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, that seems just it's somebody and who drinks grape soda, anyways, like no grape soda. It's like urban, it's an urban thing or kids, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right. It's somebody says it's a code for gang rape. That's it. Grape soda makes sense. If all the other ones are like alliterative first letter terms like chicken parm for child porn or cheese pizza, then it makes sense that grape soda is gang rape, right? Just wanted to touch base about the jerky. J-e Jeffrey Epstein said he's gonna start eating regular food again, so he's not eating normal food, so he might be eating less jerky. So the jerky isn't normal, right? This is a huge tell. He said he has six bags of a downstairs freezer for his next trip. So these are like simple, rational kind of analyses of these sentences are very obvious. He's not eating regular food, and he's gonna eat less jerky.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and you don't keep jerky in a freezer because it's already been dehydrated, right?

SPEAKER_03

You can't keep it in a bag. These are our EFT numbers. You can see this. This is not me making it up, guys. Not at all. Many threads for our next call. Planes chair charity mapping orthogonal dimensions, beef jerky to Reed Hoffman. That's good. That's the founder of LinkedIn. I think Hoffman does something else too. I forgot what it was.

SPEAKER_00

Like, didn't didn't didn't they have like some kind of business together? Him and Reed Hoffman, Epstein and Reed Hoffman.

SPEAKER_03

I wouldn't be surprised. I know that Ludnik and Um Epstein invested in the same tech company together. There's no question about that.

SPEAKER_04

Him and Musk, uh Musk and Hoffman, I believe, are having like a huge brawl.

SPEAKER_03

They hate each other, they go all the way back to the PayPal mafia and they hate each other. And they're very open about it, actually. And uh Keys uh Musk is uh like triggered Trump and Hoffman is being in the Epstein files. Jen won't be here to make a new one. There's an old one in the freezer. Would you like to take it with you? Beef jerky. Okay, uh come to Leon's building, sell jerky with her, have Jojo bring. That's from Jeff. Jerky class, anyone? He's working at a restaurant called Cannibal and cooks, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Jay's asking to bring him more beef jerky on Friday. Are you flying on Friday? I'm flying on Friday. I will bring jerky. Why don't you go to Costco and buy it? Like, that's what normal people do. Like, okay, put it on the list, put it on your big list, your buying list. Like, what's yeah? Don't look me in the eye. Don't put your keys in your pocket and go to Costco and get me some jerky. Get some jerky, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Also, also, if they were like hunting lots of deer, why would they not be making venison jerky out of that? Too many, like that's what you do when you when you hunt deer and harvest them, like make good jerky.

SPEAKER_03

This one they're talking about sulfuric acid injections on on the uh little St. James. Like, okay, let's see. Do you want veggie cream cheese tomorrow? I'll go look for it now. Uh, don't look at it.

SPEAKER_05

I would go look for it now. Holy, there are millions of babies.

SPEAKER_04

Cream cheese, baby. Okay, so here we go. This links to the that one that we were talking about before. So there are millions of babies, very little cream vegetable cream cheese. Ha ha. Do you want veggie cream cheese tomorrow? I would go look for it now. Okay, so there's very little good vegetable cream cheese. Do you want veggie cream cheese? I would go look for it now.

SPEAKER_00

What even is veggie cream cheese?

SPEAKER_03

Like mixed into it. I'm never alarm offered to bring cream cheese to school party. Okay. Cream cheese baby. Sorry about today. With the vegetable cream cheese, we are even. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Like, what did he just make him a batch of vegetable cream cheese? Like what? From Jeffrey. Yeah, okay. Yeah, and it's from Epstein. So yeah, it's not like he That's right.

SPEAKER_03

Here's the shrimp term. Epstein must have known I was younger than 18 because I had no boobs and was little and very skinny like a shrimp. And they used this shrimp thing. Can't remember which book this was in. She was 14. I don't know what book this is in. Olivier, as long as you don't have any hammerhead ones, I like white sharks. I like shrimp. Not so much if it's too pink. Oh, right. Jeff is like, yeah, this is like the thread. I think smell of black shrimp. Ugh. Again, we are in agreement.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_03

There's Olivier Colomb. Of course he's with the World Economic Forum. Like they probably promote these freaks after they know that they're involved in all this crazy stuff. Guy has a great freaking like uh resume. Sorbonne, masters. Graduate. Put platter and freezer for shrimp. Maybe shrimp cocktail tonight. They're a kosher. You don't eat shrimp. What are you talking about? I've ordered Jew food, Jeffrey Rides, so he's like ordering Jewish food. There's the shrimp picture. There's many pictures of it on there.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so why does it have multiple pictures with different colored frames?

SPEAKER_03

I think it's just from the um that's what the cops did or something.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Like tape, maybe Bella, that feminine woman.

SPEAKER_03

I found it. I can't believe how many of his associates wanted shrimp. He was getting sick from consuming the shrimp.

SPEAKER_05

Right. So where does it talk about him getting sick?

SPEAKER_03

Invite Jessica to dinner and tell her to leave the nephew shrimp at home.

SPEAKER_04

The nephew shrimp. There it is. Right? Like that's that's huge right there. Like that's in that's a slip-up in my eyes. Like you're just supposed to say shrimp. You don't need to add the nephew. I feel like that's so who's saying this? Do we know? Like this or it's all redacted.

SPEAKER_03

This is probably one of the biggest tells, right?

SPEAKER_04

To Philip.

SPEAKER_03

So I think that's G Max. I think it's uh I think it's uh G Max's Elaine Maxwell to somebody, Philip Love.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Here's one of the like the big tells. I can come tomorrow. Well 2012. Jerky will be with me when I get to LSJ. I can come tomorrow and take care of the white tuna if you'd like. I'm due back in NYC this evening. So he's talking about jerky and white tuna. Like, what the hell is this? What's this guy derby up to?

SPEAKER_05

Take care of white tuna. Jerky will be with me when I get there.

SPEAKER_03

From Jeffrey, how do we deal with the frozen white tuna? How do you deal with it? Like what like why don't you just cook it or defrost it or eat it or throw it in the garbage? Like, what the heck? This is some kind of code for call blank. She will give you massage. She looks better than shrimp anyway. And good with massages. These are all code words. Cream shrimp and cream sauce. No, in bed, I'm laying on the floor, can't move. Oh, poor you. I know how much you hate those stomach aches. Compilation preview, creamy shrimp. What? That's it, guys. This is literally the tip of the iceberg. Like the emails are just redolent. They're replete with all of these code phrases. There's absolutely no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_04

It's so crazy. Unbelievable. Well, um, as usual, man. Um, great work.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, yeah, put this one video up. Thanks. Put this one last video up. I'll show you what they would do on display for these pedophiles to attract pedophiles. This is one of the videos that you'll never see, but you can tell this is a little kid here, like a 14-year-old girl. You can see her in the striped blue and white shirt. So there's that code again. This is from the files redacted. You see, you can't see her face, you barely see it in one of these things. But she's at an adult party, like a rager with people boozing it up outside. And she's just like Virginia Dufrey was like she is on display, in my opinion, at this thing. But you can kind of you just can't discern it, but you can tell it's a party, so I'll just play the bottom. That's bottle service for people who haven't wasted their time and gone to clubs at night. It's like a big thing to get a big fat bottle of liquor and share it, and that's bottle service at the table. So that's like a 1.75 liter bottle of something that you know that people pay$300 for or overpay for.

SPEAKER_00

It's so weird because they redacted it, but they didn't redact the part where you see like her little hips, and like you know, that like that's it's gross, man. Like, yeah, and like that they did that they that they you know redacted the top part, but not like you know, the rest of her. That's that's messed up.

SPEAKER_03

You can figure out what's going on. So they did the same thing. There's a kind of an infamous picture of Virginia Dufrey at Naomi Campbell's birthday party in France. I think she was in Saint Tropez. So this she was the that's the thing of the network is they were doing it seems like they're doing it all the time. So I don't know what this is in like the um Caribbean somewhere, but it seems like just from the sunlight and things in the English. This is the kind of stuff you can see from these files, and that's what they're just tons of information. That's what they're covering up. It's a massive, massive, massive cover up. Great, man.

SPEAKER_04

Well, William, uh, appreciate your time, buddy. Always great to see you. Um, until next time, uh, where can people find you, my friend?

SPEAKER_03

Same uh William Ramsey Investigates podcast. I've got five books on Amazon, and I publish almost everything on my Patreon without ads, so you can check out my Patreon. I also put these PDFs up there too. So if you want to see other PDFs from some of my research, all you have to do is go to my Patreon. It's only five dollars a month. And I respond there all the time. Send me emails, guys. I don't put like if you want to contact me, send me an email to William Ramsey Investigates at protonmail.com. Don't expect me to see something on like a thread on it on Twitter or something like that. Send me an email, it's the best way.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, fair enough, man. So of course all right, guys. Thanks, John.

SPEAKER_03

Thanks for the invite. Good to be with you.

SPEAKER_00

Man, uh I've been a fan for a long time, William. So thanks, man. It's nice to meet you. Thanks for being here. Cheers, peace.

SPEAKER_04

We'll uh we'll reach out soon and uh oh, there he's gone. Um, yeah, we'll get him. Uh yeah, yeah, because you had a lot, a long day anyway. So um we will definitely get him back soon. Um, yeah, fuck. That was awesome, man. What'd you think? Did you enjoy that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's it's such creepy, gnarly stuff, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. That's why I've been trying to uh uh at first I was doing a lot of Epstein episodes, and then uh I just had to kind of take a step back and uh just not do them every every episode now. And uh yeah, um it's wild stuff though. And um, yeah, William is definitely good at that shit. So um it's good to to have him to bounce ideas off of. And I think that was good, man. I enjoyed that. I think we uh I mean, I don't think there's anything we can set in stone, but I think we kind of have a little bit of a better understanding of uh of you know what was going on there. And uh I mean it's it it's it's clear. Obviously, we don't know exactly, but it's clear. Uh yeah, some very nefarious and disgusting stuff was going on, and they were trying to hide it um in their communications.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think it goes without saying, and you know, I mean it's just it's crazy, like the um like how broad spectrum, like everything that you know that they're involved with, you know. I mean, yeah, you had you know the the sex, you know, like the the sex trafficking, you had like you know what appears to be some kind of like you know, cannibalism or something. But you know, I mean, just you know, we've done other shows about like you know, the mind control, the um, you know, uh eugenics of I mean the it just like the the technology, I mean it just covers like this insane spectrum of like everything that you know that this guy was was involved in in these networks. I mean, just like it's almost like how does a the person even have like the time to be involved with so many crazy things and so many crazy people? That's what I think too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, crazy.

SPEAKER_00

It's just it's just so big, you know.

SPEAKER_04

Um yeah, like how how would you have the time? It's yeah, um well man, uh always appreciate you, my friend. Um, let's see, we have uh Austin Wade Picard coming in tomorrow, and um and then we uh we have an idea for a very interesting show as well. We're gonna uh be booking um in the next few days, and then um yeah, and then May starts. So um I think we'll just have two shows, maybe three, um for the rest of May, or sorry, for the rest of April and then um and then May. Um yeah, where can uh people find you, Habsburg?

SPEAKER_00

Well, just on Twitter at accountable to me and um yeah, here on the Divulgence Podcast.

SPEAKER_04

Right on, brother. Okay, everyone thanks. Um thanks to everyone in the chat. Everyone was very active. That's that's always good uh and helpful. Um, thanks to all the supporters and subscribers. Make sure to please subscribe to the divulgence podcast. We're trying to get up to uh a thousand um please on YouTube. So please get on YouTube and also um jump on to Rumble if you're not there. Uh we've we've been getting the numbers up a little bit there, uh, and we'd like to continue to do so. And of course, audio versions you can find us anywhere from Spotify to Apple. And um, yeah, also make sure to check out the Scott Horton Academy because we are affiliated with them. Uh, for a discount, you can go to Scott Horton Academy.comslash divulgence. Um, I'm gonna be starting some. classes with that soon um especially with the Iran war going on it'd be good to learn some of the the history of the Middle East war and war and all that stuff um but yeah I think that's about it man you uh you have a good evening and all the best to you Hadsburg and uh peace and love to everyone else.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks Jordan see you buddy okay peace