#131: Oligarchies, Thoth's Warning, CRUCIAL Reading & Time Space Mind Equations w/ Ethan Indigo

I welcome to the show podcaster, researcher and writer Ethan Indigo of the Occult Rejects! We discuss American literacy history and the importance of reading and learning to read, when America was GREAT, reading and comprehension level significance, United States as a superpower (no longer a thing), the war on terror, oligarchies, when there are 3 (there is usually a hidden 4th), why America should postpone 250th celebrations, the declaration of independence, the 9th amendment, liberty for all (?), the warning of Thoth, data centers, water holding memory, tetragrammatrons, the number 64, the golden ration, and more! 

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https://geometryofenergy.weebly.com/esoteric-equation-of-time-space-mind.html

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Hey everybody and welcome back to Divulgence. Today we have from the Occult Rejects podcaster, researcher, writer, Ethan Indigo. Ethan, what's going on, man? It's uh so nice to finally meet you. Thanks for being here, my friend.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

So great to talk with you, Jordan, and say hello to everyone. And yeah, shout out to the Occult Rejects. Um, been been doing a lot of neat shows with them and um great great crew and great great to be here with you. And yeah, I'm uh writer and and author, and you know, try to try to observe and communicate in the wild world.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

Good for you. Good for you. It's always good to meet another uh free thinker, another truth seeker, uh, just another interesting person who's uh you know not you know not afraid to s to censor their um their thought process and their uh you know not really to censor anything, um to you know have a decent conversation and exchange information and yada yada yada man. So it's kind of harder to find those people uh physically, uh unless I mean unless you live in a big city. I I'm in a I'm in kind of a smaller uh city, not like a small town per se, but a smaller city uh nonetheless. And it's it's kind of harder to find those kind of people that that vibe with you uh that way. Umless, you know, unless it's kind of like a by-chance meeting, or unless unless you find unless you meet them somehow, it's related to another uh interest, and you just kind of have the same thing and it's kind of coincidental, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

So my point is the expression uh it's only at the top, but I would say that it's hard to find people the deeper you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Yeah, yeah, man. I agree, yeah, that's true. So uh it's it's it's great to have you. So uh we thought we'd get you in here. Um I I wanted to meet you as soon as possible, have a chat. Uh and you you have a great website, uh, and you put a lot of work on there. I I went through it. I think it's called 108 consciousness. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Uh yeah, meditation 108 is is one of them. Um Ethan Indigo Smith. I I have several um websites to be honest, um, most pertaining to um one book or another. So I have the geometry of energy and meditation 108, and even one that I could be found be narcissistic um with with my you know Ethan Indigo Smith. All all Weebly websites that are free. So that's why I have more than one. Um and again, I my main my main income in the alternative and creative would be through the books through global com or Amazon. So I try to share um essays and excerpts of my writing and and new ideas uh um along along with having my books.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Cool, man. That's awesome. Good for you, man. I I I I'd like to I'd like to write more um eventually somewhere down the line. Um I really enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

So um yeah, it's it's it's nice to well a couple a couple of things, uh, a couple points of inspiration for you and others who may be pursuing writing. Writing is rewriting. And so you you once uh once you have something, it's really um a lot easier to expand on and uh generate from. Um when you have a bl a blank page, that's the most difficult. So um really just just starting to do it, you know, gets gets um you know the creative gist.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Okay, interesting. I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that. Uh so uh we're gonna get into uh two two of your articles today. Um so why don't we kick off with the first one? Um pull it up for people to see. And uh we can put I'll make sure to put the uh link in the I'm gonna put the link in the chat right now, actually, but I'll also make sure to put the link in the episode description um for people so you can pull it up and uh check out his wonderful work as well as check the articles out as we're going through them. So appreciate it. Where would you like to start, my friend?

SPEAKER_02 4:50

I was gonna say uh the this article can probably be found pretty easily by typing my name and quarter millennial um as we approach the quarter millennial of the United States. Um, so you know, I I I subtitled it The Dawn of the United States to the morning of America. And uh I think um the essential stream of information in this uh look at uh in an encapsulation of history and or where we are here, uh where we are today here and now um is uh that education is empowerment and liberty is in the library. And the reason why the United States was exceptional, if at all, is because of the liberty of idea um and even the outright promotion of literacy. Um uh I I go through a little hitter uh history of literacy in the United States. And of course, when the colonies were founded, you know, and and when the really in throughout the world at that point in time, you know, a lot of people were too poor to read and or had no access to learn to read. Uh, and women too were often not even considered to uh as you know to be taught to read. So um back then when the colonies were founded and there were you know 250 years ago, it was actually not a high literacy rate, um, uh up to you know as as many as half the people around the world at that time were were illiterate, as well as in North America and the United States. Um, and uh I I track the rate of literacy with um how the country has unfolded. And in fact, in the 1980s, we had our peak literacy of the country, and that also I I kind of explore some of the uh by and large political atmospheric language in the article, uh especially uh the idea of uh when America was great. And so I say it was great by way of when we were most literate. Okay, okay, cool, man. And by way of our literacy, and secondarily, and from that, very importantly, not not that secondarily means um less important, our comprehension levels too, right? So when you're when your reading level goes down, your comprehension level goes down too. Um, so yeah, around around the 1980s, when the United States was, you know, if you want to say a superpower, in that um, and I I say that it was a superpower by way of defining that it kind of uh its biggest competition just couldn't keep up and it didn't have to do anything, really. There was no overt war between um, you know, via the from from out of the cold war. Certainly there was intelligence operations and oil schemes and so forth and so on to push the USSR over the ledge. I wouldn't I wouldn't refute that. But overtly, it was essentially that Russia couldn't keep up with the United States, uh, excuse me, the Soviet Union. Um, and and so uh that's when the United States was great, when we're most literate. Since then, we can see um, you know, we had the 90s, and we then we had uh um the nine looking back, the 90s were like this quaint period um when the cold war was over and before the war on terror began and has been going on ever since, really. Um forgive me for adopting that slogan, but I by that I mean the the war upon the Middle East by the Western power, mainly the United States and Israel, uh, that we see continuing today. Um so yeah, it's uh I I I I I theorize that um our education um the decrease of our education is leading to the downfall of our country, and it's been falling since around the 80s, um, and really steeply the last few years. And something happened along the way of this war on the uh Middle East. We had Citizens United, which which is another structure of the United States oligarchy that um, of course, doesn't put education anywhere in the forefront of import and and makes it so we uh are propping up oligarchies in every election um grouping, local, state, and of course federal. Citizens United uh Supreme Court decision in 2010 um made it so that any group, call them an institution, however they form, can then contribute unlimited money and uh to whatever political uh uh campaign they choose to. And they can do so because the Supreme Court was looking for a way to give institutions the right of individuals, and so they found that institutions the only way they can speak is to be able to donate money. Now, why they had the logic of giving institutions the right of man, uh, we may never know. But but so I propose that the the decrease of education has led to the decrease of liberty, and of course, directly see how uh this kind of um lack of knowledge and wisdom uh leads to apathy, to you know, have the war economy and the war country go on, and the citizens united decision is just another driver for this oligarchical collectivism that I've you know long been railing against. My my first book is the Complete Patriots Guide to Oligarchical Collectivism, and I kind of like to think that I bring to life the um Orwell's book within the book. In in Orwell's 1984, Winston Smith gets a hold of a book that is possibly connected to the controlling institutions, and or possibly both of these um is uh also possibly a key to individual empowerment in the institutionalization that Winston Smith faces. So I tried to bring to life uh the book within the book. Um oh, thank you so much for bringing that up. Um, and I'm proud to say uh it's almost unbelievable in this day and age, but it is a non-partisan look at politics, although, of course, I'm suspect to my generational and cultural um influences, and of course I'm uh an uh an uh American myself and so on and so forth, but it's a a really um uh I think an empowering look at um consciousness and politics.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Adding it to my cart right now, actually, um as a reminder on the Canadian and so that's cool, man. Uh sorry, sorry to interrupt my friend. Uh just a quick question. How many books do you have now?

SPEAKER_02 13:30

I I stopped counting, but my last book um is the fourth initiation. Um I I I've probably written um uh a little bit more books than I've sold, so like 12 or 13 books. I I only halfway I halfway jest. I only halfway just um something like that. Um some are very short, some are uh um fictional. Um the uh geometry of energy, how to meditate is the most popular um and or well read. Um uh the my most recent book is The Fourth Initiation, and since the Complete Patriots Guide, where I point out or theorize four types of uh four archetypes of politics, idiots, zealots, elitists, and patriots. Since then I've gone on to obsess over different sets of four, the the geometry of energy being um uh a kind of look at the uh energy of meditation in reference to the four dimensions of geometry that are kind of in in different meditation practices. So um I I I am arguably obsessed, as I think all writers um kind of have to have a little bit of that, um, and definitely obsessed with uh four. With four. Yeah, with with different sets of four. You know, and one of the one of the um uh beginning kind of uh sets of four for all western philosophy and that uh really um inspired part of that relationship of 1984. Um and the in in 1984, Orwell uh the book within the book actually points out that there are three characters, three archetypes. Um the high, the high, the middle, and the low. Um, and and the book begins something like throughout recorded time, there has been three types of people in the world, uh or uh since the Neolithic age or something, there's been three types of people in the world, the high, the middle, and the low. I find that usually where there's three, there's an unsaid fourth. In fact, um Carl Carl Jung really used this idea frequently and and uh wrote it and spoke that reference frequently, um in partly related to mandalas, but uh different things. But um, I think essentially he would say there are three, but where's the fourth? Um, one of the um, again, the inspiration uh for the foundation of Western philosophy and a big impact on my book, The Complete Patriot's Guide, is the allegory of the cave, of course, right? Uh a big um I I I assume your your listeners are well versed in it, but essentially um one person is brought into the cave where he sees other people are chained and um forced to observe images on the wall. Other people with the chained people are watching images on the wall and they're so transfixed they don't require chains. And these images are cast upon the wall by the controllers of the cave. Now, the freed prisoner of the allegory of the cave is helped or kicked out, or somehow manages to escape the cave and realizes that he was in a fake world, you know, and that the sun is the real light, and the cavern light was um used against him and was false images. And he at one point he becomes a poor slave of a poor master, and he says, I'd rather be a poor slave of a poor master than live as them, as they live as they do and think as they do. But he ultimately returns to the cave, and the uh suggestion it's it's kind of the they proverbially reject uh the freed prisoner and even threaten his mortality as the story goes. Um, but in the allegory of the cave, which is not necessarily pointed out uh um as much I've noticed, except for my obsession, there are the four types. There is the freed prisoner, um, and there's the chained and the unchained prisoners, and there's the captor. Um and these and these I relate to the elitist is the captor, the idiot is um chained, and the zealot is unchained. You don't zealots, they just are going their way, right? And the patriot is uh the freed prisoner. And I don't mean patriot by way of the jingoistic interpretation, uh of course, I mean it in the literal interpretation, which says love for country, and and country, of course, is not our ruling institutions and ruling oligarchies, it's you and I and the and the land and so forth, in my interpretation.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

I like that. I love that. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

Thank you. Appreciate that. No, for sure, man. Yeah, so I feel like education is the most empowering thing we can do, and we can see um um uh uh shout out to Mark Passio, like his his predominant theory is that um when we are educated, our liberty is expensive. When we are uneducated, our liberty regresses, and we're certainly in a period of liberty regression, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Yeah, we got the declaration of independence here. Um, and uh yeah, so uh the the Citizens United tried to use what is I think and uh what is the essence of a big characterization of the United States and is in the Bill of Rights uh overtly, but not to the Supreme Court interpretation, is the differentiation between individual and institution. And I think that's such a simple differentiation, but I think a lot of people don't apply it or don't really actively realize its uh you know signification and don't look for the real the real important nature of the individual they they give uh the import to institutions more so um let's maybe let's get it a little bit in more into the i i i i did read through it, but um I think you mention uh well no you do mention um the whole uh individual versus institution thing. Um yeah, well it it's it's uh the whole bill of rights, which actually we should we should forego celebrating the 250th anniversary uh as we celebrate it this summer. We should wait a few more years because I think it was 1791 where we got the Bill of Rights passed. And of course, they didn't want it to be passed, right? They uh especially um what is a really crucial amount. Amendment is the Ninth Amendment, which essentially expresses just because we don't say it here doesn't mean we don't retain those rights. And I think we can infer that they wrote it out this way because they knew that institutions are gonna roll over people. And if they didn't say, hey, just because we don't say we have this and this and that freedom here doesn't mean that we don't have it. Right. Right. So real real important the ninth, the ninth amendment. Um you know, another thing though, uh, from the declaration of independence relative to individuals and institutions that we can celebrate this year, or or at least uh consider um is uh in in the original um in the original draft of the declaration of independence, there was the renunciation of slavery. Right. But some of the southern states really made it so it got eliminated because their whole economy was based on the oligarchy of slavery, of race, racial slavery, in fact. Slavery broadly, but it's more specifically racial slavery, right? So um they they said that you won't have the 13 colonies to fight in unity if you if you don't take that out. Um and and we kind of can um infer that maybe it was one or another representative. Um, one from Northern Carolina was, I think, the most likely, but we don't know exactly what happened, but we do have the draft where it was the renunciation of slavery was in there. Um, and then in the final presentation, it's not there. So that that's a big one. That's a big one, and it reinforced all of broadly. I I think there's this, you know, cliche in in uh the terminology liberty for all. And it really is, it's it's really expansive or it's regressive, right? And and we see with the lack of them being able to put coherent liberty with renunciation of slavery in the declaration, and then later in practice, uh, that it that this this hypocritical um twitch couldn't it couldn't remain, right? Can't can't have liberty for all and have a slave society. But I mean, there's so many so many contradictions in the oligarchy that is the United States. I I've kind of began uh continue to look at the world as being made up of um different oligarchies, and they're really the the difference might be the terminology, but really it's the steepness of the slant of the pyramid system that you're in, right? That that is the real difference. Call it call it what you want here and there, but we're the the lower we are on the pyramid, the more pressure there is, and and that's true wherever we are. And some places have a steeper slant than others. Yeah, it's too bad. And and in this article, well, you know, one of the books I'm really proud of is The Tao of Thoth, and I published this as kind of uh a philosophical unification of East and West, of uh Western Hermetics and Eastern Taoist alchemy. Um uh and in and I uh I wrote it right at the worst time, you know, bringing together east and west right when COVID popped off. So um uh the Tao Thoth I highly recommend. Uh and I'm obsessed with um Thoth or Tahuti. And um there's a story um that I kind of reference in this article about uh Tahuti uh or Thoth and presenting the invention of writing to the king, King Thamos or King Thamos. Um and this is a Greek iteration of an Egyptian story, likely an Egyptian story. Um and uh Thoth or Tahuti is uh excited about his new invention. He's the god of wisdom, and he bestows um every type of invention, physical and metaphysical, uh, in in the uh Egyptian tradition. Fuzhi and nuwa, for those curious, is the Taoist iteration of Thoth and Tehuti. Um, and and uh one of the things he invents is writing, and he considers that to be an elixir, an elixir of sort um that can bring greater memory um and greater wisdom. And this is true, actually, right? Humanity would be nowhere as compared to where we are today if we couldn't start with all the wonderful knowledge that our forefathers and ancestors wrote down, really, right? Um, so there is truth in that. The king is highly skeptical. He he thinks that it's going to negatively impact our memory and cause people to have uh less deep pursuits, and it's a it's a neat little allegory where the two kind of uh argue uh is this mental invention positive or negative? And I think it's obviously both, and its potentials are are both as well. Um, and we can see this same dilemma taking place today with AI, because AI has the potential to propel our knowledge and wisdom. It also we can see it happening that it also has this likelihood that it's going to get people to think less deeply and so on and so forth. Um, so this this same dilemma um that we had with writing, uh, I I think we're having right now with AI, um, but only in in multiples, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Yeah, I totally agree with that, man. Um and there's uh the scary thing is, I mean, part of the scary thing is that not only are we dumbing down, but the AI and the technology is just totally repackaging our lives, uh reworking employment, uh, and what it means to work and have a job. Um so it's it's you know, even if we you know continue on this journey, and at some point, you know, we decide like geez, we really want to go backwards, like technology and society and infrastructure and all that has just already moved in in that direction, and and that's not gonna flip back, right? Um, I think that's an interesting thought, too. It's kind of scary, man. Kind of scary.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Uh yeah. The I live um right outside of Tahoe in the California mountains, and we get our power from the Reno area, a city nearby. Uh, what do they say? The the biggest little city in the world. And there's this huge complex being developed, uh, this AI facility that's as big and land use-wise as three San Franciscos they're comparing comparing it to. San Francisco, land-wise, is not that big. Um, but it's a huge AI facility. Um, and it's going to be taking the power from where I live. They're turning off the power for people to bring it to the AI facility um in a in within a year or something. Last last last announcement. Um, I wonder, yeah, it really does seem like a dystopian terminator setup, and and we're just walking into it. I wonder like how much of uh AI crash is gonna happen though, right? And or are these um buildings of infrastructure going to be like Commodore 64s in four years? Right. You know, like are they gonna be obsolete technology? I I suppose the infrastructure could shift and so on and so forth, but will they always need these massive buildings for data? I that doesn't seem like technology is always shifting in a way that yeah, man. True. I I mean, I don't know enough, but it seems to me that the way technology moves is um that things get smaller and smaller, and they're like, Oh, we need warehouses in Delaware and somewhere else. And um, and it just seems like are you sure about that? By the time you get really really using it, like things things change real quick.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Yeah, it's like we need them, we need them so big that it needs to that they're gonna be so big that they're gonna be pissing people off and scaring people and causing problems and taking up so much land, and it's like wow, man, like okay, yeah, very interesting.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

Just makes you think of uh more like you're saying, like a Terminator reality, or uh yeah, and if not that, you can at least see that it's the leniency towards institutions and the writing off wholesale of individuals in this case. They're literally saying people that have the power, no, we're changing to this institution that needs it. Um, so and and uh it's like machines back up machines, right? That's just how politics and the bureaucratic world works. So um another important thing to really be in, you know, somewhat of a you know, at least understand reference for individuals, if not unity with individuals, because we're all we're all thirsty. Machines don't need water, right? Well, apparently the data centers do, so now it's even worse. So they're taking our water, our water.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Yeah, they are, yeah. Um I'm just trying to think. I think I've heard some interesting thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

Um what is it?

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Like, I can't honestly, I can I can't even remember what it is, but I'll just shoot my shot. It had it was someone describing how the water, like the data centers don't actually need the water, um because of the cooling process. It doesn't it it just it doesn't need anywhere near that much water, right? So um they're just speculating on okay, well, what is you know what is the water being used for and all that kind of stuff. So it's um it's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

I've heard I've heard both sides of that that there is like an internal cooling cycle to where once they get whatever it is, one unit of water, they shouldn't need other water necessarily. I've also heard that that's their story, and it's complete BS. So right, right, right. Okay, I also but I've heard but there is this distinction, and I I uh I think as you know, as it might play out, they'll they'll probably need more water every so often, which would be kind of a reasonable assumption, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:06

And and another um another point they were making is and I started going down the rabbit hole a little bit, uh, about how memory uh sorry water can hold memory. And yeah, kind of went down the rabbit hole a bit, and and and uh to the point where I found this experiment. Have you heard of the experiment where I think you put some rice in water, three different cups of water with rice? You talk to all three of them. I think you or sorry, you talk to one and you give it nothing but like positivity, good energy. Uh the other one, I think you just I don't know if you talk to it at all, and then the the third one, you're just rude and just very bad, bad energy, and uh, and apparently it shows a very interesting uh result. Um, yeah, I'll pull it up, I'll pull the photo up for people to uh I'm definitely familiar with that.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Japanese guy, I forget the name, Miyamoto Subinner. Um, and uh yeah, that's a that's an excellent experiment, and it shows the power of our consciousness, right? And and I think the the placebo effect, is that what it's called? It it should be called the placebo power, right? Because this is a magnificent coordination of consciousness. Uh I I like to joke, it's like Wu-Tang, consciousness rules everything around me, right? And the the power of our mind is uh really so influential that even what what is the possibility that our minds are so powerful that they're influencing technological machines that are nearby us, and it's the machine is not even made to do that. And I I propose that idea because of all the anecdotal experiences that we all have had now, I kind of presume, where we think about something, and then 10 minutes later it's being advertised to us. We didn't even say it out loud yet, we just thought about it, right? So, what is this what is this um influence or or this um kind of permeation that the mind has? Yeah, man, true enough, true enough. And that is that wild to say have you had that thought uh this uh experience or had people around you have this experience where you didn't even say it yet, and then all of a sudden it's like on your uh absolutely yes, yes, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

I don't know what that is, but yeah, like thought pattern control, uh yeah, I don't know, man. But yeah, definitely people check out the the rice experiments, really interesting. I've been thinking, I think I'll do it myself this summer. Um check it out, but um, yeah, just the thought that you know memory holds water and um sorry, said it again, water holds memory. Um, yeah, it's very interesting thought. So well, you know, they need all this uh water for data centers, and data centers are for memory, and it's like you know, it's very interesting. So it's like, what are they what's going on there?

SPEAKER_02 38:50

You know, it's really important that how we hold our mind really provides not where we're gonna end up, but a pathway of where we might go, certainly. And I I mean to say that a lot of controlling institutions, whether they are um occulted cults or um uh corporations that are advertising to you that we're all familiar with, they want to present the idea that they know something and you and I don't, or one does not. Um and and so when just imagine in reference to the Miyoke Miyamoto, the rice experiment, um, right, how how we're holding our mind in relation to that experiment, and how do we give power to institutions in reference to how how that is, right? So I I think all these institutions like to glorify how much information they have and how special they are, but that is kind of one of those bad rice jars, right, right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

That's true, man.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Interesting, and and and one does not need um a group to certify one's development or enlightenment or education or development spiritually, however you want to look at it, right? One one does is not this all um an internal art.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah, yeah. Interesting, yeah. You are, it's true. Interesting, interesting. Okay. Um why don't we uh you want to maybe hop over to uh we'll hop over to your other article because I'd love to hear about that uh uh as well.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Yeah, let's let's check out let's check out that article. Um I've long been looking at I as I mentioned earlier, I I I wrote recently the fourth initiation. And in that book, I explore four and forty. In the Bible, we see forty as being uh symbolic of a time period of initiation: 40 years, 40 days, 40 days and nights. Um these are all initiatory um insinuations or allegories, right? Um so but in looking at the four, I um was looking at the tetragrammaton, and the tetragrammaton is this um you know highly esoteric symbol in the Bible. It's basically God, right? So you could you could um exchange God for the tetragrammaton in the Bible, um but it it literally means tetra, of course, means four, and and we have the word pentagram, which is very similar. It means a five measure. Gram means measure. So a tetragram would be, as I mentioned, I'm obsessed with sets of four, uh a bunch of different tetragrams. Tetragram a ton is actually different, it's the same difference in Greek as it is in English, as a matter of fact. There we have the words gram and grammar, these are very similar words, but with different meaning. So grammaton, I propose, it means grammar. And that and we can see the um validity of this alone in the idea of uh a pentagram is five-aspect thing. So a tetragram would be a four-aspect thing. Gram grammation or grammaton is grammar. So the uh in in exploring the fourth initiation, I use this idea of the four grammar, which is come comes from the tetractics of the Pythagoreans, and of course, as I just mentioned, the tetragrammaton of the Bible, same design. Um and in that is this uh um geometrical numerological wonder. And uh one of the kind of postulates of this uh four-layered sacred geometry symbol for God is um that there is the four and the ten. Um for there's ten points in the in the tetractus and tetragrammaton if you will um so the 40 relates to all that forgive forgive me i hope I hope people find that interesting but but the uh the 40 is such a significant number because it is the four and the 10 uh most um uh uh directly symbologically related to uh the tetragramaton and the tetractus uh and so with that in mind the signification of 40 in mind um i i was um also obsessed with uh 64 um as um we we see here there's um an egyptian uh math system uh measurement system rather that that goes on these fractions and when and it um ends up being 6364ths when it's codified into the symbolism of our um um of all our sensations in this eye of Horace as we see here so 6364ths uh and and that's kind of the western modality uh whereas we when we look at the east we have the i ching and it's 64 uh hexagrams and and so of course these are 64 parts rather than a 63 64ths but uh it's remarkable um and and there's all uh many other as i as i write in the article there's a few other rather um eight by eight sixty four compositions all related to sensitivity of mind in and uh time right um terrence mekenno um grew to be quite obsessed with the i ching and he compared it to like the uh table of elements is for matter the i ching is a table of elements for time um and and we can see um that uh the of course the 64 hexagrams here um are used often in divination processes um but there are there are other systems related to consciousness and development that have this eight times eight unfoldment into 64 um one one thing that terence mekenna found that's quite significant is the i ching's further relationship to time itself not only um as a divination practice but he started playing with the numbers of the 64 uh hexagrams and 64 multiplied times six and each one of these hexagrams hexagon hexagram is a six measure right so each of these hexagrams that we're seeing on the screen now are two trigrams in combination so um uh if you multiply sixty four times six you get three hundred and eighty four this is Terrence McKenna's discovery and three hundred and eighty four is almost exactly thirteen months um thirteen months excuse me thirteen moon cycles which is three hundred and eighty three three hundred and eighty three point nine days is thirteen months th excuse me I said it again thirteen moon cycles more specifically um so so it's related to the lunar function the lunar calendar um another uh equation that uh Terrence McKenna theorized it was three hundred and eighty four times sixty four so that's the 13 moon cycles and the 64 hexagrams that equals about one astrological cycle 24576 arguably right on the money depending on how you look at it uh there's two kind of popular ways to look at the great cycle uh of each each sign going through its um astrological um orbit uh that from our perspective right um so uh all uh it appears to me that uh um uh so uh the other number involved rather there's one other number involved that um and that is phi 1.6 are the first two digits of phi often related as 1.618 um and this is from where we get the idea of the golden ratio um and the um phi if it is right in coincidence with the Fibonacci spiral right as as the Fibonacci sequence expands it basically aligns with 1.618 as it flows um phi is also um it's not in every biological unit or every naturally occurring system and function but it is in many um including measurements of our digits relative to our hands hands relative to our arms and so on and so forth um going back to ancient egypt it is also in the pyramid um the great pyramid is 440 there's there's the the four fours again 440 qubits at its base each each four sided base is 440 qubits and I think it's 280 qubits tall and um when you split that in half and um divide it by the Golan ratio it's it's right there. That's the Golan ratio in the Great Pyramid um and and it's um in it's in so many different mathematical um and natural coordinations it's it's quite astounding. There's a lot of interesting fractal sacred geometry theory from it as well just from the 1.618 um so I was exploring the 64 and a friend of mine was well what if you divide that by five like oh let's see and we both got the number at the same time it's 40 64 divided by 1.6 the golden ratio is 40 and so what that says to me is kind of this well it's a a bunch of neat numbers that come together that seem to be um a neat coincidence possibly um expressive of something maybe maybe and of course we can find um the um phi and the golden ratio in different um measurements possibly or at least close to with the arc of the covenant and uh noah's ark have some say that the uh phi the 1.6 is um within the measurements of these arcs as well i think it's more close um but the 64 divided by 1.6 equals 40 i think is a certain coordination of time uh there's there's a there's a great great quote by mekanna um where he references time energy space and matter and these are essentially the four components of reality in effect in one way to look at it and this kind of science really lines up with the esoteric um idea pertaining to the four elements right matter is earth um mind is air could be could be fire depending on different ways to look at it space air um uh water sometimes um people relate with mind too so there's different different ways to look at the four but we see the the matter space time and mind um kind of unfolding in effect through this um through this uh equation of sixty four divided by one point six equals forty um is an interesting uh quote um from Terrence McKenna um I'll I'll I'll just read uh the a little bit of it um we are on the brink of a fusion of western swestern science with the quote unquote eastern mysticism nothing mystical about it except that we call it mysticism but the fusion of these two complete understanding of the universe of space time matter and energy uh so it's it seems to me that um this is this space time matter and energy um is also taking place in the famous experiment of um the particle and wave this of of the slit experiment right um there's space time and energy and taking place with the light but once the mind goes into the experiment there's this change and there's an effect so um i i feel like this equation is kind of suggesting to me that with dedication one can expand the understanding of time and place and so on and so forth um and and in the bible it's pointed out to being a dedication to 40 days often enough um in um not so coincidentally in in kind of um therapeutic and psychological practice 40 days is a time period of a pattern change um so whatever whatever we do if we keep doing it for 40 days it can kind of more easily be embodied right taken on and kind of being an internal art in effect so I think um this this space time and mind like the um the 1.6 the phi is space in its sacred kind of orientation the 64 is time in its sacred orientation and then the 40 is the refined and sacred mind too yeah man this is deep stuff this is wild stuff man this is like ooh yeah each of these numbers we've only scratched the surface of oh I bet I uh yeah the e ching is uh which uh is has the uh eight elements the eight trigrams and into the 64 hexagrams is the oldest book that is still in print many refer to it as um so it's there's so much depth just in looking into the I Ching let alone um just into looking into the golden ratio and even let alone looking into the symbology of 40 um another neat eight by eight into 64 modality is uh I don't get into this into the in the article but in um in Egypt there are eight gods eight primal deities that are very much like the eight trigrams of the uh bhagwa system um and they're eight elemental deities these are the ogduad of the eight needers and this is where we get our word for nature and these are the toad headed and snake headed primal deities and they're they're really eight but it's four pair actually eight is four pair of gods and goddesses they're four couples um and uh they multiply by eight so there's your sixty four again thereby um and in the um Indian cosmological system where you have the eight matrikas or divine mothers and they give birth to eight unfoldments um yoginis each and there's your sixty four as well and these all inspire development of consciousness recently nasem harriman um i i i'm i'm not sure if you know him but he's uh kind of um sacred geometry mathematical guy from canada you you must know him what's sorry what's his name nasim nasim nasim harri man uhriman i i i'm killing the pronunciation of his name but it's h-a-r-r i m-e-in he's uh uh he might be a Sikh of Sikh um heritage anyway um but southern Indian guy really interesting um exploration of the uh 64 and it's all from out the tetragrammaton uh his whole look at it too is all from uh the tetragrammaton into the tree of life into uh the tetrahedron which is this 64 pointed um if you go down I think it might the shape might be there on the article it's showing it might be up there it is there it is there's the 64 sided tetrahedron that he uh uh imagined and and drew out of this whole sacred geometry process of from the tree of life orientation um the tetragrammaton and the tree of life um so again it's sixty four facets pointing to um this sort of time space mind understanding in place so there's your your four elements it's like this encapsulized um consciousness development inspiration equation I like to think of it as um and I'm I'm still still exploring some of the fine points um to be honest to expand on it the uh this what the article is complete uh essentially but I I think that there is another aspect to it that I'm still looking at to really really draw out the consciousness of time space mind and place okay yeah and that's crazy but yeah the that's the tetrahedron and masim herriman has some great presentations on it alone and so again each of these yeah yeah each of these streams of idea coming together through the 64 and the 1.6 and the 40 are incredibly deep on their own. And so I I think the profundity of the equation comes together the more these different facets of the eight times eight into the 64 and the golden ratio and the 40 kind of come together then I think the signification of it is really enhanced. Cool man well man that's that's awesome um and I know it's uh it's like some crazy numerological it's it's it's very new to me. Um I'm sure there are people in the audience and I'm sure there are people in uh my listeners who will listen to it who who will be on board and know exactly what you're talking about but for me it's quite new um yeah we'll have to uh we'll have to do some sort of like numerology episode sometime or something so you can kind of crack crack my brain a bit more into it uh but yeah man really interesting stuff really interesting stuff you definitely cover uh a very very wide range of things man you're definitely a very intelligent individual um thank you almost say that definitely um I think we'll wrap it there man um before we go though um I I want to first of all thank you for your time um second of all uh great work on on on the articles and presenting the work um but before we do go um please um can you let everyone know where they can find you um you know tell us about your books again real quick and uh yeah and anything you want to you want to get into um to let the people know please take your time well uh thank you so much for letting me rant on about my ideas I appreciate being involved in your most excellent project um amongst all your great guests that you've had on before so thank you for having me um Ethan Indigo Smith on all the social media I'm easy to find I appreciate people reaching out to communicate please feel free to do so if anyone um is inclined um and uh yeah the the Tao of Thoth and the geometry of energy are I think really powerful books. The Complete Patriots Guide I think is um increasingly relevant and important and I would I wish I wish that the political empowerment were less important rather than individual self-development. But I I I on all of my books I've tried to instigate the pursuit of higher consciousness. And and not not necessarily teach or direct, but instigate one's own pursuit and to higher consciousness and development. So yeah, appreciate appreciate everyone and feel free to reach out.

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