#141: A NEW ICE Shooting, MORE Trump Bull, McConnell, Data Centers vs Indians, w/ Adam (Truth Desk)

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I welcome back Adam from the Truth Desk for another News Night! We dive into a preview of the Tyler Robinson trial for the killing of Charlie Kirk, the nonsense surrounding Mitch McConnell (the fried brain) and his health status, democracy in the modern day, how Congress can do insider trading, Trump's 2nd term being a cashgrab, Flock cameras and how Adam stood up to them in his area, 9/11 first responders, Lucky Larry Silverstein, Iran war updates, higher ups making money off wars, Trump's latest shoutings, how wars are cash grabs, drones and modernized warfare, data centers and indigenous peoples, Israel, October 7th, postal shootings and GOING POSTAL, the recent ICE shooting and killing in Houston, how immigration is only REALLY political in the US, and more!

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SPEAKER_01 0:02

Hey everybody and welcome back to Divulgence. You are watching um Divulgence with myself, Jordan Veso, and uh have my good friend Adam from the Truth Desk here. Uh we are trying to do somewhat of a weekly, we're gonna try to do it weekly where we do somewhat of a news show where we bring up articles and talk about uh you know current current issues and stuff like that. Uh I think we've dropped uh two episodes or so that have been like that, and we're gonna try to do it uh weekly. Uh we're gonna try to do it weekly starting now, if if not um coming in the fall, and we're also gonna be doing that with our brother uh Habsburg Jolly West. So um yeah, I'm really excited about that. Uh, anyways, Adam, how are you, my friend? It's good to see you.

SPEAKER_07 0:48

I'm good. I will just add it'll be news with a conspiracy type flair to it, where we'll try and look past the official stories that you see. I'm I don't know about you, Jordan. I'm getting really sick of like every time you turn on like NBC or ABC Fox or whatever, they they give you the news, but it's like there's you you know that there's more behind it, and they don't they don't bring it up. And uh, you know, especially like, and I know we're gonna save Charlie Kirk for uh uh Sunday, so be sure to tune in for that. But like with the Charlie Kirk thing, you know, you you you watch it and like they'll bring they'll bring they'll be like there's Tyler Robinson and blah blah blah. It's like you don't want they they're not talking about any of the hundred fucking things that don't make sense about this guy, you know. There's there's been there's been a lot, and that's that's Jordan, that's a good idea saving that till Sunday because there's so much, and I almost feel like that's the point. It's just an information smoke game.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

But but but not necessarily the information that we want. Um so it causes us to, in in my opinion, it causes us to waste, um, and I use that word specifically, waste a lot of time sifting through this stuff trying to find the nuggets, and sometimes they're not even there. Um, and this isn't the Diddy case where um, you know, we were told well, we weren't even told, there were just these rumors of uh, you know, these lit, you know, the Epstein 2.0, and and everyone thought that that's what it was, but there wasn't really much to that. Um, but this is obviously in this case, there's a lot going on, um, in the sense that there's a lot of different players that I think we don't know about. There's a lot of key events tied in that we haven't been privy to yet that still don't make sense, um, and what have you.

SPEAKER_07 2:44

Yes, so I think fake information, just fake stuff, and you know bullshit rabbit holes, right? And I I don't I know a lot of people are into the exploding mic thing, and you know, yeah, whatever. I've I've got my like first of all, an explosive produces a flash. It all exposed explosives produce a flash. That's like like an explosion is a release of like energy and heat and light.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

So even the term right off the bat, the wrong they're using the wrong term, which is sorry to cut you off, but that's another that's a big that's a big general pet peeve of mine. People just don't necessarily they they might understand definitions and stuff, but they don't use it properly. And like I I feel like the uh racism and discrimination and prejudice, those get used intertwined, and I feel like that's one of the biggest uh offenders. And to a point, you sound like you don't necessarily know what you're talking about, so and then that just makes you look bad to to the mass audience, it allows um the elites and uh legacy media to to say, okay, well, look this guy doesn't know what he's saying, he's just a conspiracy theorist, uh and and and so forth. Um, but sorry, sorry, continue, my friend. I apologize.

SPEAKER_07 4:01

Oh, I was just gonna say, so I'll uh I'll tell this for your benefit. I know you're Canadian, they're not a lot of guns up there, but a gun produces a muzzle flash. And and with Charlie Kirk, it's like if there had been a fucking explosive under his shirt, it would have ripped his shirt apart, there would have been a clear flash, so much could go wrong. What if it was turned a little bit like this and it shot a bullet? I mean, it's just so I believe the theory comes from uh an Iranian intelligence agent. Like this, this Iranian, I don't know what their their IRG, Iranian Revolutionary Guard or whatever, he came out and said um that somehow Iran figured out that Charlie Kirk was, you know, they used this explosive mic detonator, and that's why they replaced the pavers under him. And that and it's like, okay, are we gonna, you know, whatever your opinions on Trump are, are you gonna trust Iran over Trump? Like, oh man, it's just so much, so much bullshit and obfuscation of the facts, you know. Um, just just yeah, but anyway, here here on our weekly news roundup, we will try to get to the truth for you guys. Yeah, if you guys are coming from my channel, please subscribe to Jordan at Divulgence Pod on YouTube. Uh, he's trying to get to 1k subs, and he's like, I don't know, 20, 30 away. So help him help him help him get to 1k.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Thank you, my friend. And for those who aren't subscribed to you at the Truth Desk. For those who are here um for my channel, make sure to check him out. He's been on the show enough times, so you know what he's about. So there's no reason not to subscribe.

SPEAKER_07 5:40

I'd well, I'd like a few people to drop off my subscriber list. I'm at 4,214. If 14 people could unsubscribe to me, I'd be at 4420 even.

SPEAKER_06 5:52

That's just I'll just lock my channel after that.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

That's wonderful. I love it.

SPEAKER_06 5:58

All right, man. Well, let's get into it. What uh news items do we have today?

SPEAKER_01 6:05

So um, yeah, one thing I wanted to just mention, actually. Um, we we spoke about the the debt of the country and all that. Um, and so a new article just came out today, and it kind of finalized the fact that um US Treasury has borrowed 155 billion every month of this fiscal year, and they are now paying 24 billion a week in interest on debts. So that's something that we talked about, but there it is. Um that's uh it's it's wild. Um, it'll be interesting to see. I don't know if it's something that'll change while we're still alive, even or if it's something that's ever gonna change. If they're ever if they're just gonna keep racking up debt, um something else we can talk about probably we won't get to today, but uh you know, with with Musk being a trillionaire, uh we're we're we're you know, we're kind of leaving the age of billionaires and sort of entering the age of trillionaires, and um you know, once we entered the age of billionaires, then you know maybe maybe the debt didn't seem so bad, and and you know, maybe now that we're entering trillionaires era it won't seem so bad. And so maybe it's just like a masking, a psychological mask, um, for people just to think, oh well, you know, it's you know, musk is worth a trillion, and you know, the so the deaths debt's not worth that much, right? Um but yeah, um that'll be interesting to see because that's a lot of money, man. Like and just to think of how how the world works to the understanding that I the little understanding that I have, I mean, I just don't expect that to be to be a priority of anyone. Uh what the debt? Yeah, I mean, who I feel like and everyone coming into whatever office it is is like, uh, I mean, like, I can't do anything about it, the next guy can handle it. Well, it's not sexy.

SPEAKER_07 8:05

Getting getting rid of the debt isn't sexy. What's what's sexy is spending the money. Uh not only from a point of the people who are getting the money. If you come in the federal budget and you say we gotta slash this bitch by 50%, that's a lot of people that are getting paid right now that are gonna stop getting paid. And those people that are getting paid are lobbying our politicians, lobbying Congress, the president, they're donating to politics. We have a huge problem in this country of money in politics, the Citizens United case saying corporations are people and they're they're spending on politics is free speech. Um, just I mean, we brought this up last time, but for some numbers here, US tax revenue uh for 2026 will reach 5.6 trillion, and uh we owe 40 trillion. So uh let's see here 510, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40. That's about uh uh eight times more we owe than we're bringing in. And you know, you can find clips of Warren Buffett because people used to talk about the national debt in 2010, and Warren Buffett used to say, Well, you gotta look at it in relation to GDP and blah blah blah. Yeah, he hasn't said a fucking word lately because debt to GDP is well, first of all, GDP is retarded. Like, why are you using GDP as like the government doesn't get to keep uh the gross domestic product of the entire nation? They get a small sliver, so um, you know, it's it's gonna be 5.6 trillion. And uh it's it's uh, you know, we already I brought this up last time, but we spend just as much on interest payments, no principal, just interest on the national debt as we spend on the military. It's about 13% of the national budget, and we spend more on the military than the next top six countries combined. So it's and this is that same, and I this is probably the third time I brought it up on this show. I'll keep it brief, but this there's these same patterns that repeat for every empire that ends uh currency debasement, debt, and foreign wars. Um, and then you start to have problems, and then you see scapegoating. Uh, you know, there people, you know, oh, it's the Democrats, it's the Republicans. Medieval Europe used to blame the Jews. Um, it's always somebody else's fault. And um, you know, we just end up arguing and squabbling, and then eventually the US Empire will, you know, well, we're still a pretty, you know, we've got lots of energy farmland and stuff, but you know, eventually we'll it'll be Chinese movies that are that are the main ones, and the you know, eventually it'll be China kind of taking the lead and and we'll have to take a back seat. Mr.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Zhi. Mr. P or is it Mr. Ping? Mr. Ping, Mr. Jing, or you know, whatever. Um, and we'll come back to that. I actually I had an article that uh we'll get to that, we'll get back to China uh later. Um, so I'm glad that you said that. Uh before we jump into our starting uh kind of story here, um we did mention Charlie Kirk. We are gonna be covering that on Sunday, and that's definitely gonna be a topic that we will, I imagine we'll be covering in that weekly to some extent. Um can I just interject really quickly?

SPEAKER_07 11:18

How hilarious is it that his boyfriend, his gay boyfriend's name is Twigs? Ridiculous, right? He's probably gonna get twigs. I just yeah, exactly. Like he's just Lance Twigs. Like, I don't know. I just find that funny. I'm sorry, Jordan.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

No, no, man. Hilarious. I love it. Um comment from the audience uh spirit box, didn't Israel plant exploding pagers on people? Yeah, an exploding lapel mic is so out of the realm of possibilities. Yes, um I know that we've heard of the the pager operation, which was pretty wild. Um, for a moment there, you know, everyone was giving uh Israel credit and forgot um you know who they really were for a second there. But uh again, um I think we kind of covered this, but we can kind of rehash it real quick. Um, like Adam said, there would be some sort of a muzzle-like flash if it was like a um more of a gun-like uh mechanism.

SPEAKER_07 12:20

Uh I actually have a video right here I just pulled up. If you want to of uh yes, so it's uh it would be so different. Like there, the my point was the amount of things that could go wrong if you were using some sort of absolutely that too is I totally believe Charlie Kirk was taken out by some sort of projectile, probably not a 30-06. The best video on my channel is me recreating the assassination of Charlie Kirk and uh showing the devastation of a 30-0-6 round, it's one that I had grown up using, but um here, let me uh do do do do do where I didn't even grow up around guns.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Um and and that was like one of the big things that caught me right away. And you know, but try you know, try telling some of this stuff to uh Valvinus or you know, some of these people are all right.

SPEAKER_07 13:16

So, yeah, here's here's one of the exploding pagers going off. Oh, okay. Boom!

SPEAKER_01 13:22

See, that's a very different thing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:26

I mean, it's it's you look at the smoke coming out. So, I mean, so is what Israel did was uh it's it's a crazy story. They uh Hezbollah bought pagers from um they tried to buy secure pagers, and uh Israel infiltrated the group that they bought these pagers from, and so in all of them they put a tiny amount of like plastic explosive like C4, and then and then whenever they pressed there's this all these pagers just blew up. So, I mean they're you know on guys' ears and stuff like that. So, yes, I mean Israeli Mossad, highly effective intelligence agency, but the idea is that this exploding thing would have shot a projectile at Charlie Kirk, nobody's aiming it, nobody's like what if he had of twisted his shirt a little bit this way and the projectile just flew off of him, you know. I mean, there's so much that could go wrong, and and all the cameras pointed on him too. I mean, you're talking about every angle, hundreds of cameras were on Charlie Kirk. There's um I could put it in the show the description for this, but archive.org has every single um angle, the original ones. There's like there's like literally 50 angles that are available online, which I looked up a lot of them when I recreated this assassination. So I just the the lapel mic, I know it's popular now, um you know, but to me it seems implausible. I I believe my opinion is there was probably a second shooter besides Mr. Robinson. Um, who knows if that guy on the roof was even Tyler Robinson? I mean, yeah, we still don't know that, man. Um and yeah, and this trial will be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

It will, yeah. Let's let's just say that to say the least, and uh we'll leave the rest till Sunday.

SPEAKER_07 15:27

Yeah, um for sure.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

So, but thank you for those comments, guys. Um, so let's start with um election kind of election-related news. We got Mitch McConnell. Uh he's been in the hospital, he's been hospitalized for uh like give or take three weeks. Uh, and then this morning, I guess he was rushed uh in an ambulance to the hospital. Um yeah, uh obviously there's something crazy going on with that.

SPEAKER_07 15:59

Um how crazy would it be if he's actually like dead? Right, like if he's they that's what they're saying. They're saying he's brain dead, and then and then um he allegedly a lot of senators have called him and spoken to him. He hasn't like given any public appearances. I mean, this is a PR disaster for his team and him because all these rumors that are swirling, they should immediately have him give a statement. If he's able to talk, even even him being in a hospital bed, just give out some statement. The fact that that hasn't happened to me is something's something's off with him. Something's off with this, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Yeah, and the just the fact that they've been you know keeping things under wraps, uh, so to speak, um, is very sketchy because obviously this could affect really affect um the you know election, all that, but you know, if he's unfit, they gotta get him out of there and get someone else in there temporarily. And obviously the Republicans don't want us, uh I forget the term, but they don't want a um a snap election or whatever to fill him. Um yeah, so so there's obviously reason to you know feign ignorance, which Trump, I believe he did. He was asked yesterday or the day before about him, and he just said, No, I don't know. I don't know, I haven't talked to him, I don't know how he is, I don't know, you know.

SPEAKER_07 17:47

I uh I threw up a video if you want to watch this. This is Mitch McConnell freezing. This is one of the more famous ones, and uh this is from a while ago in the NDA um this week.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

It's been good by Arts and Cooperation, and a string of uh watch the guy in the background to the right of him.

SPEAKER_07 18:08

Look, he knows. See if that oh he knows, yeah, he knows. He's like, oh no, don't do this now. Look at look at it, just totally dead, totally lifeless behind those eyes. And he just stays like this, and then eventually they uh escort him off. But this was a few years ago. So I mean Mitch Mitch Mitch, Mitch, you okay, Mitch?

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Mitch.

SPEAKER_07 18:35

Like okay, I mean, so this is the both things. Yeah, it's the same thing we saw with Biden. It's like who first of all, why do these pol I have my own theory on this, but why do you think these politicians cling to their position and their power for slow? I think it's because they're compromised, and the people that have compromised them.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

There's more going on that we don't know.

SPEAKER_07 19:05

It's like if he says, I want to retire, well, now whoever has him compromised military industrial complex, China, he has a Chinese wife, so it's like whoever has him compromised is like, no, you're you're not gonna quit. You're you're gonna keep going because we're not gonna compromise someone new. We already got your ass. Like, you go back out there, Mitch. Get your brain dead mummy ass. I'm surprised they don't try to yeah. Look at Joe Biden, dude.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

I'm they didn't they didn't want they didn't want a black woman taken over that bad that they you know if they let Joseph Biden the ninth or tenth or however many clones or you know, face masks or whatever was going on there, man. Like um, so yeah, man, there's something going on there. Um, aside from you know, whatever attach mental attachments they have or whatever, they enjoy the perks, all this, they just don't want to give it up. You know, some people just don't want to retire, but yeah, there's stuff going on that we don't know. Um, there's compromises that have been made that we don't know, there's deals that have been made we don't know, and sometimes sometimes these people are working in interests that really are not very clear unless you do uh you know, you do the proper research. You would never know.

SPEAKER_07 20:27

Yeah. So some of these guys like Chuck Grassley, Diane Feinstein, they stay in the Senate until they're in their 90s. It's like this isn't I I believe it's like over half the Senate is over the traditional retirement age. You know, it's it's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

These senators, congressmen, these judges, uh, and other positions like that uh in the government and law, uh, it's very to say like, oh, they're fine, and it's ageism, and you know, and and we gotta treat them well, and this it's um it's ignorant, um, and it puts a lot at stake and a lot at risk because these people are not uh and not everyone, but I mean look at this fucking guy. He's obviously fried. Okay, the guy's fucking fried. Yeah. All right. Uh these people are making such crucial decisions. Sure, they have teams surrounding them and all that, but but like these are the these are the these are the um the pieces on the chessboard, so to speak. These are the people that are representing what have you. Yes. Um and I think that speaks volumes. Um when you especially when you see these people that uh that just go and especially the ones that go unopposed or that seemingly go unopposed. Um Like there's nothing special about this person, or maybe they used to be special, but now they're you know, I don't know, they think they've lost touch or they're just losing it, or whatever. Or, you know, in this in McConnell's case, where you're just fucking fried, man. You're like you're fucking fried to the point where you're retarded, man.

SPEAKER_07 22:18

Who was the guy that you just interviewed that had the uh democracy app where you could um you could vote for uh what was that guy's name?

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Ramon Perez. So his appearing thought.

SPEAKER_07 22:33

Hey, what did you think of that concept? So I that really resonated with me because um, you know, in original democracy experiments, they tried direct democracy where everyone would go and vote, all the citizens would vote on things, and then it's oh, this is you know too complicated. We need representative democracy, we need old fucking mummies like Mitch McConnell to be elected to make our laws. The technology exists now for a direct democracy. Uh, that app that that guy developed, you could, you know, um, he said that was used in Estonia for the population to be able to vote. I mean, if you just had an app on your phone that you could vote not only for the president, but major legislation, I mean, the the uh technologically we have moved past the need for a representative democracy. Now, of course, you know, we're probably decades or centuries away from that being implemented, but the technology exists now to where we don't need these corrupt, compromised people that come in and all they're doing, they just insider trade too, you know. Um, insider trading's legal for Congress, it's not legal for anyone else. So these these Congress people they can get on committees, you know, they can get on the um House Armed Services Committee, and then they know, oh, uh Raytheon is about to get a $25 billion contract. They know that before anyone, so they just buy Raytheon stock and then it goes up, and then that's perfectly legal. There's they're doing nothing wrong. If you worked at Raytheon and you knew they were about to get that government and you buy more Raytheon stock, that's illegal. But because they're in Congress, they're allowed to do insider trading, and they've pretty much come out and said we need to allow senators and congressmen to do this because we don't pay them enough. So it's like people are like, Yeah, they're insider trading, but we need it essentially.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

It's a complete bullshit. And now there's poly market, which is already I mean, with with with the Maduro raid, uh the Epstein files, and Iran alone, some people have pocketed millions.

SPEAKER_07 24:45

Oh, and do you know it's only like I think it's uh five percent of accounts on polymarket are profitable? It's just the insider. Which ones do you think that it's just the inside and that's how these things work, that's how they get the betting lines. They need the insiders to come in to set these betting lines, or else what is it?

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Yeah, exactly. It's like so many so many things are such a vicious kind of circle of corruption, um, and it just it just reflects, you know, it just kind of reflects the the how the world really revolves, so to speak. It's it sucks. Sucks to think that way, you know, and you think you're crazy when you when you talk like that. Other people are gonna look at you crazy, but I mean, I mean, just just pay attention. Just pay attention, do some reading, do some research, intake some content, whatever it is. Uh, just do some learning in whatever subject. Um, you know, whatever subject it is that you know, the topics that we cover here, the topics that you come on and talk to us about, uh, you start to see, you start to see that there's something going on.

SPEAKER_07 25:53

Oh man. You know, you talk about um you know the the politicians enriching themselves. Trump has treated this second term basically like just one big cash grab. It's unbelievable. It's he's had 3,642 stock trades uh this this term. Uh Obama had zero, Biden had zero, Trump's first term he had 50. There's been with this Iran war so many cases where right before a major announcement was made, somebody put in a big bet on oil's futures, and it always coincided with you know um coming out on the positive end of whatever announcement Trump made. So, I mean, Trump's really um pocketing a lot of money for him and his family. And this is another classic sign of end of empire where we talk about the wealth gap between the ultra-wealthy and the common people just getting bigger and bigger. Um, so I, you know, I think uh Tim Dillon put it one way that yes, the country's failing, we're going down the toilet a little bit, and uh rather than trying to save it, the people in charge are just trying to uh steal as much as they can before the ship goes down. They're they're in the Titanic taking the silverware out of the drawers and the the paintings off the walls, and they're just trying to get this squeeze this this lemon for as much juice as they can um before we're all fucked.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

So yeah, and I think um and I think that's where the people behind kind of behind the scenes come in, and then history kind of takes its course from there. Um I just kind of want just because it we're coming up with so many uh topics that we're it reminds sorry, it reminds me so many topics that we're getting into, but I'm having Susan Bradford on the show next month, and she's written a few really great books. Uh Royal Blood Lies is one really good one, and then I recently started the Black Rock bamboozle, which is really good, and um it's crazy how you know the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and and and and all these families that you don't necessarily uh recognize or have heard of that um have really shaped shaped the world, absolutely, and how they've done it is just um yeah, it's so despicable. It's so despicable, but it they do it with class, and um yeah, it's it's wild.

SPEAKER_07 28:28

It's wild. Well, and this stuff's always been going on. And you know, in my opinion, if you look at maps of like feudal Europe, you know, feudalism was um basically the king technically has absolute power, but this is something that you see a lot, though, is that rulers need other people, they need subordinates that are like directly under them. Um, to uh, you know, in feudalism, they don't have any standing army of the king, it's the lords that provide all of the army, you know, from each of their distinct municipalities or whatever. And so the ruler, while he is an absolute monarch, is beholden to the lords, you know, he has to he can't do things that go against what say 80% of them want because then they'll just install a new monarch. Today, I think we have something that's kind of like what I would call capitalistic feudalism, where you don't actually see the map like you could in in medieval Europe. You can't see that the Duke of Coxuckerton owns this, you know, section and the Duke of Wellington owns this, and blah, blah, blah. But you know, these people, these corporations, these billionaires, these trillionaires, Miriam Adelson, George Soros, Elon Musk, it's like they are like essentially feudal lords, and and their you know, campaign contributions and and whatnot that go into politics are how they maintain their power. I think it's a capitalistic feudalism, is how I put it. I don't I don't know if anyone's come up with that. I was just thinking about that the other day, kind of kicking that one around.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Love it, man. Thanks. Yeah, no. I appreciate that. Oh, that's good, man. That's good.

SPEAKER_07 30:03

Shout out to the girl that gave us XOs and XOs. Yeah, for sure. That was nice that was a nice comment. It's always nice to see nice comments. Feeling the love, yeah, man. Sometimes you get a, you know, and I'm sure you know this, but you get comments sometime that are just like people just spend all their time and energy into how to craft the most hateful comment they can and just make you feel like crap. Like this guy's an absolute moron, and you read that, and you're just like, oh man, appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Like it's like, geez, I guess I must be important enough for you know someone to care that much. But I mean, yeah, but yeah, oh, for sure, man. I get it all the time. I had to shave my beard down because I was getting harassed so much, man.

SPEAKER_06 30:47

You were getting you were getting beard hate.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

No, I'm just kidding. Well, remember that one guy he told me in Habsburg, it's like you guys should shave your beards and go hunt some elk or something like that. I don't know what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_07 30:58

Yeah, I so I looked at him. I think so. There's some accounts that just post negatively constantly because negativity gets you more interaction than positivity, and that's a thing on X too. If you if you want to get your X engagement up or Twitter, um, a a really good way to do that is to find a controversial article and just come in with some crazy take.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Yeah, for sure, man. You know, just rage bait the fuckers, yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_07 31:23

And then because X rewards that um, because then people start commenting on your and then that boosts your account. So a lot of people and bots do this. Bots will come in and just say super hateful shit, and and that's why they do it, just to get their engagement up. So kind of a symptom of online yeah facial recognition. They want you to shave your beard so that the uh flock cameras can recognize you.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Flock, yeah. We're uh we'll get into the flock cameras on Sunday as well.

SPEAKER_07 31:53

If we don't so they actually have a great story, I kept flock cameras out of my town. Let's hear it now then. You want to hear it now?

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Okay, so I was gonna wait till Sunday, but yeah, man, let's we could I'll I'll briefly do it now.

SPEAKER_07 32:07

We could talk about it more on Sunday, but basically, I was on my town's um city council page because I was signing my son up for basketball, and I was like, oh, city council minutes, let's check this out. I saw that they were about to spend 50 grand on Flock cameras in our town, and I'm like, dude, fuck this. Like, and I knew about Flock from uh a channel called Business Reform. Shout out Business Reform, he's a great channel, he's got lots of cool um deep dives on things, but so I made a post on my town's Facebook page. Like, hey guys, just so you all know, they're about to spend 50 grand on these AI surveillance cameras. Appreciate that, man. Uh, they're about to uh spend 50 grand on these cameras. Um, if you care to voice your opinion, here's where in the city council meeting will be. And there was, I think it was this Facebook paste that post that did it because so many people came. There's like a hundred comments on this thing. Everyone's like, this is bullshit. Why are they doing this? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We went to the city council meeting. There was like five of us that spoke out, they voted it down. And it was just a procedural thing. Like the the chief of police had gotten a grant from the state of Missouri, um, and they were wanted to spend it on this, so it was just kind of a procedural thing. But because of there was such a public outcry on Facebook and people showing up, they voted it down. So, and I I like to I like to credit. I mean, of course, it was you know, people speaking out that wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Yeah, but you had to spark that flame, it seems like, or else that could have just gone somewhat unnoticed, dude.

SPEAKER_07 33:37

Yes, yes. So I and and now flock is heavy in the news, you know. Yeah, um, people people being falsely accused of crimes, and there's police officers. There's police officers that have stocked their exes, and I mean yes, that's what I wanted to, yeah. Crazy. And then, of course, backdoors into the um they they claim that you you own your data, but you know, uh Flock was um when it was just a startup in some guy's garage funded by Peter Teal. So lots of people assume that there's backdoors in Flock software where Mr. Teal and other intelligence agencies can come in and so they're nefariousness. Which, you know, the whole the whole uh thing of it is like, well, you could say if you're doing nothing wrong, what do you have to hide? Well, you know, the essentially if you had everyone surveilled and monitored, and you know, if you want to turn on the switch for some kind of Orwellian future, it's just right there, it's just literally a flick of a switch, and you can start oppressing people pretty effectively. So democracy and liberty are constantly under threat, and it's it's if you live in a democracy, your job to try to prevent that.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

Absolutely, and just with the development of technology lately, and we know they have it, and you know, the temptation sometimes is so strong. You know, you have cops using it to stalk their girlfriends, so why wouldn't why wouldn't some people uh you know, in a co maybe in a more coordinated effort, um, you know, use use things or do things they're not supposed to do with this technology if it if it satisfies a mean, right?

SPEAKER_07 35:30

Yeah, so a really good argument I use when people say if you have nothing to hide, then why do you care? I'll just say, let me see your phone.

SPEAKER_06 35:39

Let me see your phone, like let me go through it. Come on, let me see it. Like, you know, and then it's like a whoa.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

It's got nothing, it's got it, it it doesn't have everything to do with hiding. It's it's privacy, it's comfort, it's it's like you're a human being, man. Like that's my that like my life isn't supposed to just be like given out to cocksuckers in the government to do whatever the fuck they want with it, right? Or to paint me with to to make some sort of assumption with it and paint me with a brush or whatever they're gonna do with it, right?

SPEAKER_07 36:12

So yes, absolutely, absolutely, you know, and the technology is there now for you know, this kind of technology's never existed, and these, you know, these cameras are marketed as license plate readers, really. They're AI facial recognition.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Yeah, yeah, bullshit.

SPEAKER_07 36:31

So, you know, and I I will say too, it's like uh, and these are all over the interstate system. I don't know about in Canada, but in in the US, they have these cameras, license plate readers on all major interstates. So, you know, it's all it's already pretty hard to like. You used to hear about people that were career criminals, like Charlie Manson when he was, you know, before he went on his his killing spree, he was a career criminal. You don't have that much anymore. It's like it's kind of hard to get away with crimes these days. Um, serial killers had a heyday in this country from like the 60s to the 80s, 90s. It's much harder to get away with crimes. And so it's like we're already much safer if you look at the murder rate, if you look at the robbery rate, it's like yeah, at least in the US, we're much safer than we've ever been. So, you know, besides, you know, maybe a couple towns like Memphis and Chicago or whatever, but we're we're doing pretty good already. We don't we don't need all this.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Yeah, I don't think yeah, we don't need to go full minority report uh just for the sake of it.

SPEAKER_07 37:34

Yeah, I don't think I don't think Canada Canada must be really safe. You guys are super friendly up there.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

Well, I mean it's just uh it's just a toned down in in some ways, it's just a more of a toned down version almost. Especially when it comes to fighting. My experience and that kind of violence.

SPEAKER_07 37:58

My experience was and Americans are already seen as friendly. I I think I don't know if it's so much Americans are friendly or Europeans are just kind of rude. Um, but like so many people from the World Cup that have come over here are very surprised that Americans are are friendly. Canadians are even more friendly, and I I you know traveled to Canada you know quite a bit when I was a truck driver. I always found it funny too when you cross the border into Canada, the Border Patrol, the you know, whoever the mounties, they'd say, How many guns do you own? Where are your guns? Do you have any guns in the car? You know, the the da da da it's all about guns when you go in there, and then coming back to the states, they'll say, Did you do any drugs when you were in Canada? Do you do drugs? When was the last time you did drugs?

SPEAKER_06 38:42

Yeah, very different set of priorities between the two the two nations.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

That's interesting, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:50

It's funny.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

All right. Um anything else before we start moving along. Nope. All right. I I think we'll uh I'll slip this in here now. Um that's what he said. Oh gotcha.

SPEAKER_07 39:14

You you left yourself wide open on that. Yeah, that's what she said.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Uh all right. I found this video. Uh it's actually pretty old, but someone uh I guess whoever had uh someone reposted it, and for some reason I thought it was recent. Uh, and it's John Stewart. Um, and he's at like a current congressional hearing or whatever, uh, for 9-11. And you know, although he's a you know Hollywood kind of guy, you know, he's famous, celebrity, whatnot. You can tell, you know, I don't mind him. I think he's uh he seems like a decent person. I I I uh I don't know all the details about him, but you can tell that he cares about this. You can tell that he's speaking from the heart and he gives a shit. So uh yeah, I just really respected it. So I just wanted to uh we won't watch the whole thing, but we'll uh I noted some of the uh the more important parts. So uh yeah, let's uh give a little bit of a listen. Um, the clip kind of describes itself. Um all I'll say is that you know, congressional hearing, uh 9-11 related. Uh John Stewart speaking.

SPEAKER_05 40:31

I want to thank Mr. Collins, Mr. Naylor for putting this together. But uh, as I sit here today, I can't help but think what an incredible metaphor this room is for the entire process that getting health care and benefits for 9-11 first responders has come to. Behind me, a filled room of 9-11 first responders, and in front of me a nearly empty Congress, sick and dying, they brought themselves down here to speak, and no one's shameful, it's an embarrassment to the country and it is a stain on this institution, and you should be ashamed of yourselves for those that aren't here, but you won't be because accountability doesn't appear to be something that occurs in this chamber. We don't want to be here, Lou doesn't want to be here. None of these people want to be here, but they are, and they're not here for themselves, they're here to continue fighting. The official FDNY response time to 9-11 was five seconds. Five seconds. That's how long it took for FDNY, for NYPD, for Port Authority, for EMS to respond to an urgent need from the public in five seconds. Hundreds died in an instant. Thousands more poured in to continue to fight for their brothers and sisters. The breathing problem started almost immediately, and they were told they weren't sick, they were crazy.

SPEAKER_07 42:45

A lot of asbestos in that dust.

SPEAKER_05 42:47

As the illnesses got worse, it became more apparent. Well, okay, you're sick, but it's not from the pile. And then when the science became irrefutable, okay, it's the pile. But this is a New York issue. I don't know if we have the money.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

Respect to those guys looking at the camera and staring at the camera, that's a good move. Because it's like getting the listen the people watching to like really listen and try to humanize it, which uh I'll comment on this after, but the fact that you gotta humanize this kind of stuff anymore to get a response is just despicable.

SPEAKER_05 43:36

And I'm sorry if I sound angry and undiplomatic, but I'm angry, and you should be too, and they're all angry as well, and they have every justification to be that way. There is not a and it would be one thing if their callous indifference and rank hypocrisy. We're benign, but it's not. Your indifference costs these men and women their most valuable commodity. It's the one thing they're running out of. This should be flipped. This hearing should be flipped. These men and women should be up on that stage, and Congress should be down here answering their questions. And I couldn't help but to answer to it, which was you said, look, you know, you guys are obviously heroes, and 9-11 was a big deal, but you know, we have a lot of stuff here to do. And uh, you know, we got to make sure there's money for a variety of uh uh disasters, hurricanes, and tornadoes. But this wasn't a hurricane, and this wasn't a tornado. And by the way, that's your job anyway. We can't fund these programs, you can. Setting aside that no American in this country should face financial ruin because of uh uh a health issue. Certainly, 9-11 first responders shouldn't have to decide whether to live or to have a place to live. And the idea that you can only give them five more years of the VCF because you're not quite sure what's gonna happen five years from now. Well, I can tell you, I'm pretty sure what's gonna happen five years from now. More of these men and women are gonna get sick and they are going to die. And I am a lot of them died. This bill isn't unanimous consent and a standalone issue is beyond my comprehension. And I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation for why. It'll get stuck in some transportation bill or some appropriations bill and get sent over to the Senate, where a certain someone from the Senate will use it as a political football to get themselves maybe another new import tax on petroleum, because that's what happened to us in 2015. And we won't allow it to happen again. Thank God for people like John Field, thank God for people like Ray Pfeiffer, thank God for all five seconds. They did their jobs courage, grace, tenacity, humility. Eighteen years later, do yours. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

Introducing. Uh yeah, I just I wanted to play that. Um I don't know, it spoke to me, man. Um, and just the fact that it's like, you know, Hollywood guy doing it, standing up for the little guy. Um, and it just covers a lot of the stuff that we kind of spoke about today. Uh, and it just reminds me of also what we spoke about about these terms and these, you know, these people need to care about this job. Um if they're so old to the point where they can't do it, they gotta get out of there, man. Um it's it's it's crazy that and it, you know, it's it's not necessarily just the US either. You know, the way govern most governments work, um compared to how they could work, you know, is is a is a bit of an embarrassment anywhere you you go, in my opinion. Um so I'll say, you know, I'll say that. But uh, you know, the fact that you have to put on a big show and in and bring them in and humanize them, it reminds you know reminds me of like Pam Bondi, you know, basically ignoring the Epstein survivors in the room because you know they gotta put on a show and be there and and and and stand and you know, and they're and they're there for themselves and fighting for what's right. And then there's this bitch Bondy who's you know she's gotta play her role and she's gotta ignore them and be a fucking bitch because you know, or else uh you know her job's gonna get cut or or whatever. You know, they're all characters in in this in this movie, game, whatever. Um it's crazy when uh a lot of these people are just trying to you know live lives and you know live live a normal life, and they and they don't seem to and they don't realize that there's all this all this backroom and backstage stuff going on.

SPEAKER_07 48:35

Um yeah, well, and then you know, 9-11 specifically, you know, if you look at the videos and the pictures from that day, a lot of them are just covered in this dust.

SPEAKER_01 48:45

Just ached on, man. Like like almost like they got a bucket of paint dropped on them. That's what it almost looks like.

SPEAKER_07 48:52

Yeah, and you know, those towers, you know, very famously were, you know, I covered this, I have a great series out, uh, things that don't make sense about 9-11. And you know, one of the things that it goes over is that the towers were not um, you know, the crown jewels of New York City. They were getting old, they were unprofitable, they didn't have a lot of tenants, and they were filled to the fucking gills with asbestos. And they actually, the Port Authority had looked into demoing them, but it was illegal to do a demo, a controlled demo in New York City. So, you know, allegedly they just uh planted some bombs and flew some planes into it and you know killed two birds with one stone, get a couple foreign wars and uh knock the towers down. Uh, Mr. Larry, lucky Larry Silverstein. That's right. Lucky Larry buys the towers in July uh and immediately gets a huge insurance policy that specifically covered terrorism. Now he overbid somebody to get this contract it because of 9-11. That contract was profitable for him. Had it not been for 9-11, he would have lost millions. And so this dust that's flying around has all this asbestos in it. Asbestos causes a very specific cancer called mesothelioma. And those 9-11 um firefighters and first responders really a lot of them died like within 10 years. Um, the people that were really breathing that stuff in. Um, it was just a poison cloud of asbestos and you know, probably nanothermite particles from the charges that allegedly brought down allegedly pierced back here. Um, just a lot of bad stuff. And I think Jon Stewart's opinion on it, um, he would have been more knowledgeable about it than most people. I'm just guessing that maybe Jon Stewart is in the 9-11 truth movement, and maybe his opinion is hey, if you're gonna do something like this and stage some big false flag to get a bunch of foreign wars, at least take care of the fucking people that came in to clean up your mess, you know.

SPEAKER_04 50:56

Um fair enough.

unknown 50:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 50:58

And he's got a point. I mean, if you look at two, like uh Oriel Palmer, he was a uh battalion chief in in uh fire department in New York. He made it up to the 51st floor of the South Tower, the side of the impact. He actually went in and he he fixed an elevator, like the elevator shaft was broken, but he was just so like he knew how to fix it. He fixed it, got up there, he evacuated some people, and he was like, ah, there's just a couple couple uh fires up here. We'll get them, we'll knock them down with two lines. Immediately that tower came down. It burned for less time than the other tower. And also, uh, I believe so. Rudy Giuliani and like all of the you know uh coordinators, the the first responders, just so happened that they had set up a drill in a in a in a um an office to manage, and it's like while they're doing this emergency management drill and had this mobile command center, oh, 9-11 happened. So then that just became the so maybe they were listening on the radio and they're like, oh shit, they're about to put the fire out, you know. And then as our our uh listener just pointed out, you know, just like Silverstein, they just said pull it. Larry Silverstein very famously said, you know, we made the decision to pull it, and pull it is industry jargon for um bringing down a controlled demolition. So a lot of people look at that and they're like, hmm, you know, Larry Silverstein missed work on 9-11. His two kids, his two kids missed work on 9-11. Howard Lutnick. Howard Lutnick missed 9-11. He said he was taking his son to his first day of kindergarten, but kindergarten started on September 6th. And it was like one of the only days that Howard Lutnick ever missed work. He then later went on to be an Epstein associate and visit Epstein's Island, very famously lie under oath to Congress about being Epstein's friend, and then when he was caught lying, still now has a job, which that's like, you know, one of the biggest things now that people say in the U.S. is like, why has there been no arrest, no dermatology appointment? Yeah. His wife made him that dermatology appointment. Um, Gerald Hall, your mom. Great username, by the way. Yeah, his wife made him that dermatology appointment. Very, very convenient. That it wasn't Larry that made the appointment, it was his wife.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Interesting.

SPEAKER_07 53:29

Bunch of schmucks, man. And then, of course, all the insider trading around 9-11. I mean, there's literally uh the like United Airlines, um, the World Trade Center tenants, literally a a 1,500 increase. I believe, I believe one um short selling option, like one of the companies saw a 22,000 percent increase in like the week before 9-11. Like all of a sudden, there's just uh a huge volume of put options. Put options are a um short-term bet on the downward price of a stock. Short trading is a long-term bet. So thousands of and not just one example, a bunch of them.

SPEAKER_01 54:13

If it's a pattern, there's something going on, man.

SPEAKER_07 54:17

Someone, someone new, someone new. It's very obvious, you know.

SPEAKER_01 54:23

Yeah, you got that right. You've got that right, my friend.

SPEAKER_07 54:26

Yeah, no, I I did a I did a lot of a lot of research into this because I I got sick of people, like I, you know, I would be like, oh yeah, you know, 9-11 was probably fake, and you know, people would argue back. So I really delved into this pretty deeply, and there's some great documentaries out there. There's 9-11 explosive experts, um, 9-11 explosive evidence experts speak out that was put out by AE911 Truth, Loose Change, um, Codex 9-11 by Brad Zebu. Um, there's some really great documentaries out there, and it's like if even 10% of what's in these documentaries is true, you know, there's there's something something afoot.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

Something is afoot. A game is afoot. That's all I'll say.

SPEAKER_07 55:12

It'll come out eventually. I mean, with AI, with computer models, with eventually you'll be able to put some kind of some kind of model together. If I if I'm ever like a rich YouTuber, I should say when. When I'm a rich youtuber, maybe I'll buy a decommissioned Boeing 747 and I'll rebuild a wall of the World Trade Center and we'll crash that bitch. Yeah, man. I'll do it.

SPEAKER_06 55:37

See what happens.

SPEAKER_07 55:39

Because you know, that's what like those planes are just thin aluminum, and it went right through this heavy structural steel on the outside of the building. So I'm sorry, I we're not gonna get into 9-11.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

We can no, no, that's all we can save that. We'll save that one. Um, let's get into got another quick clip here for us. Um the war that the US has lost. Uh, turns out it hasn't actually ended yet. What? Um, no, so that's Trump said it wasn't over. He said we won. Well, he said that many times, I know. And uh we thought we thought maybe it might actually be over this time, but no, we are still kicking up dust. Um, and here's here's a little uh few comments that he made. I think uh probably Wednesday or Tuesday, give or take at the uh forum meeting. And uh he caused uh he caught after this speech here. We'll just play a quick bit of it. Uh, some of the markets just tanked.

SPEAKER_07 56:39

So of course, real quick, of course, Trump doing his trademark reverse diamond that he always does, the diamond over his nut sack. Very that's right, diamond over the nut sack. A lot of people think that's Illuminati or reverse Illuminati. Maybe Trump is part of a counter Illuminati organization. I don't know, right? We'll leave that to the comment section.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

Yeah, let us know what you think. Very uh powerfully last night. The very uh dangerous people from Iran, they're sick, there's something wrong with them. We say, go and do your funeral stuff, and instead of that, they start shooting rockets at ships yesterday, and so we hit them very hard last night. Very hard. I would say 20 to 1, 20 times tougher. And I told them every time you hit, we hit, and of course they're dirty players, so they they go after everyone, probably including me. I've been number one on their list for years, and they're a bunch of scum. You want to know that they're scum, and uh so we don't like them, I don't like them, and they're evil people, and it's the denuclearization of Iran, and we're gonna denuke it. We're not gonna let them because they're crazy and they can't have a nuclear weapon.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

They want to so I don't like them, and they're scum, and we're gonna denuke them. Absolutely. Well, Jordan, you bring up a great point there.

unknown 58:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Fuck, man. His uh, yeah, his it's I don't know, man. It's he's he's still he's still funny, he's still pretty entertaining, but I don't know, man. I think I think uh he's not as entertaining, I'd say. Uh that was pretty entertaining, but he's losing it a bit, I think.

SPEAKER_07 58:35

A bit, yeah. So the key thing there is Iran claims essentially sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz, and they want to charge ships a not necessarily a toll, but um a fee for safe passage, and some ships are trying to go around that, probably at the behest of the U.S. And Iran fired some rockets at them, and so the U.S. hit Iran back. The the problem is is Iran's military, um, their radar, their missiles are has already been pretty decimated. We've done almost all we can without actually sending in ground troops. Iran's economy is devastated. They basically have nothing to lose now. And uh, you know, Trump can say all we can keep bombing them. We can bomb, he bombed a railroad bridge, we can keep doing all this stuff, but at the end of the day, Iran's not gonna quit. It's very cheap to launch drones um at the Strait of Hormuz, they can be launched just by a person, um, like shoulder fire status, and uh they can wreak a lot of havoc. So it's a very different game than it was 10 years ago. If they had done this 10 years ago, um, we'd be much different. But Iran's not gonna back down. Yeah. Iran's not gonna back down, and we're coming up with more concessions than uh, you know, in the peace deal, we're gonna give them $300 billion funded through Gulf states. Uh, we're gonna give them sanctions relief that sanctions in place before the war, and we're gonna give them money that was frozen by Jimmy Carter in the 1970s. Um, so Iran has clearly won, and uh Trump is just trying to save it. Trump said at the beginning, the goal is regime change. He's like, We're gonna we're gonna completely upend your government, and he just looks like an absolute buffoon on the national stage. He's weakened the U.S. significantly. This is the first time the U.S. has been snubbed militarily since I don't know. Um, maybe the war of 1812. I I don't know. It's been a really long time since the U.S. has lost a war. You could make the argument we lost Vietnam, but uh we didn't really try to win Vietnam.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

We just kind of that was there was so much yeah, back like a like we say, backroom games going on with there. Uh that was oh man, yeah, that's a messy one for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:51

Fuck Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, the most heavily bombed region by the US by far. Um, it was just basically uh, you know, uh a testing field for munitions, and then you know, these defense contractors making the weapons and getting them, you know, a market for them. The whole goal of Vietnam was just to spend munitions, and there's still Laos is um that there's lots of poisoning in the jungles, this you know, defoliance that we drop. Like, you know, there's agent orange poisoning that happened of the troops that came back, but it's like there's people that fucking live out there that still live out there every day that you know have this agent orange, you know, poisoning. So um sorry not to get off on a on a sidebar there, but oh man, absolutely the Iran thing is is you know, Trump is is really looking like a buffoon here. It's gonna come down to Iran's just gonna um affect a toll on that strait now. They've they've exercised sovereignty on it and they're not giving it up. You can keep bombing them, but unless you actually go and do a ground invasion, and we're not gonna do that because look at how well that's working out for Russia and Ukraine.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

Oh, yeah, man. Um yeah, we'll get into that as well. We'll get into uh the drone warfare and stuff, but uh yeah, you're right, man. Um, it's not gonna go well. Um this I feel like whenever this is done, it's gonna be some crazy ending, uh, some ridiculous ending with ridiculous terms. We're gonna everyone's gonna be scratching their heads like why did this happen? And we're gonna look back and it's gonna be like, well, a lot of people made money. Seems like a lot of people made money during this war. Um, and here I have an um article right here, actually. We were talking about you were talking about betting on oil futures and stuff like that. Uh, so here we go. Bit uh a huge winner from the Iran War, Africa's richest man, uh Nigerian industrial uh industrialist Aliko Dangote bet big on oil refining, and now it's paying off.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:59

Africa's richest man, he must have a net worth of almost $200. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

$202 now, actually, with the uh but close, yeah, close enough. Um, but you know, just an example, another example of um uh you know, people in high places making money off of terrible situations.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:20

Well, and you know, if you if you go deep in the Epstein files, that's you know, Epstein was all about um making money. Like he's talking in the Epstein files about in his emails about trying to make money on the Libyan Civil War. And uh he he had he knew things were happening before they did, and um, you know, he was kind of a power broker or an intermediary between the people that actually run things and the people that you see on TV. Like he was more he was the go-between kind of guy, and you know, yeah. I mean, that's the you nailed it, Jordan. That's like what these people do is they you know, it's like insider trading on a much larger scale geopolitically.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

Yeah, exactly. Exactly, man. Um, so I mean, long story short, uh, yeah, the war's still going on. Um, I I mean I don't think there's uh I I still stick by the the the notion that you know the US has lost this. It's just a uh it's just a big kerfuffle, a big clusterfuck, a big bunch of bullshit. And uh, you know, God forbid some more uh I mean anyone dying from this is terrible, but you know, God forbid more US troops start dying. Um yeah, you know, it's gonna get real serious real fast. Um well and it's already you know it's already a fucking war, so yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:51

Uh the real danger is gonna be if Israel decides to use one of its 200 nuclear weapons on Iran, which is a distinct possibility. Absolutely. And you know, I've I've said this before that this is this is why the US constantly backs Israel, it's because it's our fault that they have a nuclear weapon. We allowed it to happen, we let them steal the material, we turned a blind eye when they were testing, and now they have this weapon, and that's part of the reason why the Israeli leaders of the 60s and 70s, you know, the the guy that stood up to JFK uh very famously about getting inspections at the Domona nuclear facility. That's why these Israelis wanted this nuclear weapon, because they knew that the U.S. would have to back them constantly. So it's like if they don't get what they want, the Israelis are much more brash than than uh the US, and and they very well could use a nuke on Iran, which would be essentially unprecedented. Um, you know, of course, we have the two bombs that the US dropped on um Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that was uh to stop a land invasion that absolutely had to happen. Iran, you know, you could just leave them alone. They're you know, they're A regional um adversary of Israel, but you know, oh well, sometimes you gotta play with people you don't like. That's what you tell your kids when they you know got yeah, don't you don't get to win at everything constantly all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

Sometimes you gotta make fucking concessions, and you know, and I mean if if the story that uh the you know most some of these Israelis and Jews put out is true that you know, oh they've we suffered forever, and you know, we just get kicked around, and it's like okay, well now you got Israel. Why are you causing trouble? And why do you cause so much fucking trouble? Because it's not all retribution and hunting Nazis down. No, no, you're causing all sorts of fucking bullshit, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:45

So yeah, well, you know, the founding of you know, whatever your opinion is on the founding of Israel, the entire Arab world declared war on them in like 48. And then they had subsequent wars, you know, 67, they had the Yom Kippur war, they controlled the whole Sinai Peninsula for a while. They took the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt. Um, and you know, Egypt launched a surprise attack and took it back. And they've since made peace with Egypt, they've made peace with Jordan, they've, you know, in my opinion, they had a hand in destroying Syria. Syria's in ruins now, a shell of its former self. It's like they've they've pretty much established themselves, like they could take their foot off the gas a little bit, um, and not worry about Iran or Pakistan or you know, these other adversaries. Um, but you know, I'm uh you know, I'm I'm not uh I'm not Benjamin Netanyahu. And I did want, you know, you've you've seen the corruption trial of Netanyahu's, right? The the are you familiar with that? He's like on the little bit. So so this is like it has to do with him receiving gifts and kickbacks and him taking a little money off the top while politicians do this.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:57

Sorry, you're so a dot on that. Yeah, that's yeah, and the wife too, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:02

Yeah, so in my opinion, that is clear evidence that Netanyahu's not at the top, of course. You know, me and you, we but just for the audience here, that's like someone is telling him, hey, do what we say, otherwise your ass is going to jail, you know, and that's a real threat to him. They also changed around the Israeli constitution, they limited the powers of the judicial branch. There was lots of protests about this. So it's like even Netanyahu is, you know, got his balls in a vice, and and he doesn't he doesn't want to um he doesn't want to, you know, he's he's gotta do these these hawkish things and attack these countries, otherwise he's going to jail too. So who's really running it? Maybe the Rothschilds.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:52

Maybe they're really in control of Israel.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:55

Um I'm learning a lot from from uh some of these books I'm learning I've been reading, and um I'm excited to kind of get a better understanding of these you know royal families and elite families, and um, yeah. Because uh yeah, you gotta look back at the history and um yeah, these shadow shadowy figures are uh very prominent and very um very persistent, very influential, obviously.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:27

So and I did want to say we're going to do a uh me um Jordan and uh Habsburg Jolly West are gonna do a podcast on anti-Semitism, uh the rise in that, what it means, all this a very good conversation, likely to get demonetized, but whatever. Um, for that, I've been researching. You often hear about the 109 expulsions of Jews. Um, you know, and the theory is is like they must be doing something wrong if 109 countries have kicked them out. What I have found so far, I'm actually going line by line investigating these, and it is not looking great for Christian Europe. Uh, pretty much all of them are um just well, first of all, Jews were like the only religious minority that were allowed to exist in Europe. The pagans, the the Roman gods, the Norse gods, like the Christians just slaughtered them. And uh, but Jews they were allowed to exist because they're seen as a witness people and they're in the Bible and all this stuff. But um, all of these expulsions are are but they're mostly based on like blood libels, which is um accusing Jews of killing Christian children for their blood. Host desecration comes up. They Jews were accused of stabbing the communion wafers that Catholics eat, and then these communion wafers would bleed. Usury comes up again and again because um Jews were allowed to lend money. They Christians were banned from um by canon law, Catholic law, from lending money at interest. So someone, you know, someone was gonna do it, and it was the Jews, and then people would owe them a lot of money, and then like we talked about with feudalism, all these nobles would owe the Jews money, and then they'd tell the king, like, hey, let's just kick them out and cancel our debt, you know. And so that's you know, and if that specific ruler didn't do it, somebody else would. So, you know, I just wanted to point out that, you know, people say, Oh, 109 countries, this and that. And it's it's really um, it's really not that that Jews do anything nefarious, um, at least so far, what I've what I've researched. That for the most part, it is just classic um racism or anti-Semitism, whatever you want to call it. So I just wanted to point that out. We'll get into it a little bit more later, but sounds good. While the topic of Israel was up, yeah, for sure. No, that'll be interesting to kind of break into a bit more. We should also talk about it October 7th, because um I agree. Yeah, a lot of weird things with October 7th, and Habsburg was pretty on board with that, um, too. So I think that'd be a good uh good perspective too from him.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:05

For sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:06

Yeah, he's he's uh he's uh I always like Habsburg's perspectives. He he always comes in with something that a lot of times thought about or or whatever. He's a real deep thinker. He's a good thinker. I was just gonna say, he's a good thinker, man, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:20

Yeah, so I love having him on and love having part of the team because he's he's great.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:24

I I did like this is kind of but his thing that he always uses for his background, you know, the like his AI background or whatever. I saw a cat walking around in the background. So good, yeah, like on the water of the lake. Let's back. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:45

Um all right. Um, where to go next? Also, um, I noticed that something else just want to throw up here. This this freaking guy, this freaking idiot, uh, planter. Or sorry, Platiner. Um, he's the guy he's running, I think, in Maine. Uh, I think in Maine. Um, and he's the guy who had the Nazi tattoo on his chest. Do you remember that? And then he got it. I heard something about that. Yeah, and then he got something put over it. But whatever he got put over it, well, okay. If you have a Nazi tattoo or a tattoo you regret, or something like that, you either get it completely removed or you get it completely covered, right? If you look into pictures of his, you can still see part of the crossbones from the skull and crossbones, and it's like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:43

Oh, did he have the uh the this the totem comp, the the SS um totem comp? Jesus Christ. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:51

So and now he's got sexual horror um uh sexual misconduct complaints, multiple ones. So uh yeah, people are people are pissed with uh Bernie Sanders because he kept promoting them and kept sticking up for them. Uh so yeah, but I mean uh I can just find pictures of it covered up.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:12

I can't find any any pre-cover up. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:17

You should be able to find them, it should be pretty easy.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:19

Oh uh well we let's see here. But yeah, totenkompf was the uh symbol of the Nazi SS, which the you know, the regular German army, the the Wermacht were just like you know conscripts and everyday people. To be in the SS, you had to be a like a hardcore Nazi. You had to really subscribe to the Nazi ideology, you had to be a essentially a pure Aryan. Um, and these were the guys the the these are the guys that actually guarded the concentration camps and they they did the most heinous uh war crimes in the Nazi regime. Yeah, there it is. Wow. So you can still see uh when you look at uh yep, that's a toten comp.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:08

You can still see it's hard, uh that's not a great picture, you can't, but if if you if you check it out at home, you can still see the tips of the there, you can see it there, you can still see the tips of the bones, and it's like, well, well, you know, why wouldn't you cover it up completely? You know? Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:29

I thought that was a little odd. Interesting. Not not a tattoo I would go for. Nah, no. You know, not uh sometimes people look at like a lot of Gen Z people were getting this Z tattoo on them, and people said, Oh, it looks like this one specific German unit that had this Z tattoo. It's like okay, we're kind of reaching here. We can't just take every single yeah, we can't obscure but a toten kumpf or the lightning bolts, the SS lightning bolts, or you know, obviously a schwastiker, which you know, real shame that that Hitler kind of destroyed the Schwastika for everyone else because it is an ancient ancient symbol.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:09

And and and it's kind of beautiful, right? Like it's an interesting symbol.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:17

It's I mean, there's a yeah, lots of cultures that had no contact with each other all came up with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

Yeah, and uh just the thought of that is is really cool, and it's it's really been muddied. Yeah, I I agree.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:31

Monks, um, you know, Buddhists would use it. Um, it's it's popular still in India and like Southeast Asia, um these like kind of spiritual temples, so you know, and Hitler actually took it and he inverted it and put it um, you know, usually it's like a box, and Hitler made it like a diamond. Um, so he did he did he did change it a bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:53

Um he yeah, you know, he he tilted his head and thought that that's what it was supposed to be, and so yes, yes. Um let's see here. So we'll cover a few more things. Uh one thing we don't have to get too far into it. Um but with data centers having so many problems, so many people against them, uh they seem to be having more enemies. Yeah, more enemies and more issues coming. So now indigenous peoples are pushing back on them because apparently they're coming into their lands. Um so that'll be interesting to see if if if they can they can kind of put their feet down. Um but another one, and this one may not be as critical, they may not see it as critical, but um there's some sort of rare bacteria that got traced back to a metadata center construction site. Well, where when it was being constructed, um which is uh looks like it was outside Wyoming. Um which is like, what the hell are they doing? What's going on there? Um, I guess it was in the water treatment uh facility uh that ran back to the site. Um let's see here. The Cheyenne board Cayenne Board of Public Utilities discovered the contamination of uh Cupria Vetus Galardi during a routine sampling of its reclaimed water irrigation system in February. After months of testing, officials determined that the source was Fortis Construction, a metacontractor tasked with building a 715,000 square foot data center known as Project Cosmo, Project Cosmo in Southeast Wyoming. Um let's see here. Um uh okay, so according to the Wyoming Tribute Eagle, which first reported contamination, the local utilities board permanently revoked Meta's ability to discharge its construction waste material into the system and adopted new policies that ban wastewater discharge from certain types of data centers. Okay, so it circles around uh just not properly getting rid of garbage and waste and whatever it is, and it sucks to think of that. They're trying to throw these data data centers up, um, and they they don't care about the i mean, you know, they don't care about what what the impacts of the data centers are gonna be, but now they don't care about the environmental uh costs of just building the data centers.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:54

And you know, uh they they use up a lot of water, they jack up people's water bills, they jack up the electricity bills, they use a lot of electricity, they're an eyesore, they generate a lot of noise, and they don't create any jobs. There's only like for these huge data centers, there's like a couple people that work in them, mainly for security. They're they're largely autonomous. It's also funny, too. Um, you know, Elon Musk has, you know, I know people have different opinions on him, but he's working on essentially putting data centers in space that can use solar panels, and um the cooling is much easier. They still have like a radiator and some some kind of fluid, but it's like, you know, in a few years, uh data centers on terrestrial land might essentially be obsolete. So that's kind of funny to me thinking about these things, you know, Kevin O'Leary coming on uh in his flip-flops and his suit. I don't know if you saw that video of him. Yes, I did. I did very, very how do you do, fellow kids? You know, he's trying to be it's like, dude, you're a fucking billionaire, you're a suit, like ditch the flip-flops, stop trying to look cool and like you don't give a shit. Um, but you know, all these people are spending all this money, it it might be obsolete um in in not very long, uh, you know, because they might all be in space where real estate's free and people don't protest them, and you know. I also saw something interesting that um companies that were using AI heavily or tried to replace workers found that it was more expensive to buy tokens to use these AI systems versus just having regular people do it. So the the cost benefit might not quite be there yet. I did a whole um video on you know AI dystopia and like universe 25 and what universal basic income will mean. And then I saw that uh article and I thought that was very interesting that the cost benefit analysis might not quite be there yet for AI to take over our jobs. So there is hope. Slim, but it's there.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:09

Interesting. No, that's interesting, man. Um, okay, I know you wanted to get into uh drone warfare. Um yes, personal favorite of mine, drone warfare. So we're very interesting. Um, the last time I think I spoke about this was with Scott Orton a few episodes back, just talking about how much money is being spent on these missiles and interceptors to take down these cheap in comparison, these cheap drones. Um, and obviously, the Ukraine's been using these drones and causing a lot of trouble for Russia. Uh, recently, we hear we have uh Ukraine's drones are now reaching Siberia and imperial Russian energy assets, Kremlin's new dilemma: how to protect much greater area with limited air defense capabilities. And uh, yeah, that's gonna become very expensive. Um, and I feel like it's gonna cause a lot of uh unease, just the thought of that. Obviously, Russia is huge land mass, lots going on there. Um, you have these little drones, little and again by comparison, cheap drones that you can send out by the hundreds or thousands.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:19

About a hundred dollars a pop.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:22

Okay, about a hundred bucks is what I've heard. Okay, I've heard different, but uh even if it's uh in my opinion, even if you're dealing in the thousands, you're you're still comparing it to missiles and stuff that are in the millions. So it's just it's no contest to a certain extent, to a certain point. Um yeah, man, so take it away. What uh what are some of your thoughts and thinkings on the uh pulsitation?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:55

Some of my thinkings, man. Well, I think we're really seeing like a war a revolution in warfare, similar to what industrialized warfare brought um in World War I, where you had people that you know, at the beginning of the war, they marched into battle with a drummer and a big feather on their head, and you know, battleships were made out of wood, and by the end you had essentially modern warfare. And now it's like we're seeing with drone warfare a complete um upending of military tactics. And that's one of the reasons, apart from the military-industrial complex, you know, classic, they just want to sell their arms. The Ukraine war is a huge proving ground for drone tactics. The tactics are changing almost week by week. Um, you know, different defensive strategies against them. And but what we're also seeing is drone warfare heavily favoring a defender. We're we're at a situation where a major power, Russia, can't hardly take any ground. Now, of course, Ukraine has the best logistics and the best military advisors and the best weapons and all that. That's very true, but they're able to stave off the Russians. And I think this is a huge reason why we aren't going into Iran. We haven't even got our ships really close to the Strait of Hormuz because of the danger that drones pose. And if we tried to launch a ground invasion of Iran, I think it would be similar to what's happened in Ukraine, where it's basically a stalemate. And I think what we're seeing now is maybe the end of bully foreign policy by superpowers, where we can just kind of push other smaller countries around and they know they'll get invaded. You know, if Iraq were to happen today, Iraq had a great conventional military. They had like over a million soldiers, they had planes, they had missiles. A lot of their uh chips and their missiles were turned off by the French. Um, and you know, uh, so a lot of their military hardware didn't work. We bribed a lot of their generals, but I think these days just a really cheap drone swarm can effectively protect against a conventional ground invasion, and unless they come up with some really effective counter-drone measures, which so far they're they're not um quite there yet. I think we could see a situation where smaller countries aren't as afraid of the US or China or Russia because they can adequately defend themselves. Um, I I think it also might mean China might take Taiwan sooner rather than later. That's been a goal that they've had for a long time. But I think I think drones are changing the landscape of war uh more than most people can appreciate. And you know, also if you look at rebel movements or insurrectionist kind of movements, it's like you just need a shipping container full of some drones and you could mount a pretty good defense against a conventional military. So we might see um rebel movements and and you know things like that pop up where they're using drones uh more effectively. So very interesting time to to uh be alive. I don't know what uh what are your thoughts on on drones and modern warfare?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:15

Well, it's just it's crazy and it's kind of scary because the game is changing. And um, you know, who knows what that means for for um who knows what that means for the people that usually are uh you know, for lack of a better word term, physically unbothered by war. Um, you know, reach is farther, uh infiltration is easier and stealthier in some terms, um, and capabilities are expanding to the unknown to the extent where you know you just sometimes don't know what's what's really Going on, you don't really know what people have in their arsenal. But as for drones, um, it's also scary because I mean what if it you know, like uh just imagine like a uh a 9-11 but with drones or something, and then you know, drones are outlawed, and then it's like you know, that'd be a scary situation, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:29

Yeah, the good point. Terrorist, terrorist capabilities, and of course, false flag capabilities. I mean, in my opinion, most terrorism is fake. You can just let it always have the opposite effect, right? Terrorism always has the opposite effect. Osama bin Laden, he didn't like U.S. troops in the Middle East, so he blows up a bunch of towers and then he gets more troops in the Middle East than they ever have had, you know, U.S. troops. October 7th, Hamas, they don't like Israel. Ah, we're gonna harass them a little bit. We're gonna fly gliders and we're gonna use GoPros to, you know, film us mutilating people. It's like, what did you think was gonna happen? I mean, my entire life, Israel has responded with overwhelming military supremacy every time they are attacked, you know. Of course, October 7th required the direct participation of 25% of Hamas. So a little a little out there that Mossad didn't pick up any whiffs of the attack. Yeah but uh sorry, I don't I don't mean to get too far.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:26

No, no, I it's just ridiculous. Yeah, uh again, I I'm I'm glad that we're gonna uh we're gonna talk about that soon. Uh it's a topic that I've I've wanted to cover, uh, just haven't gotten around to it. But um, yeah, it's it's just sketchy, man. Sketchy, just sketchy. Um doesn't seem right. Doesn't seem right. And then you know they kept journalists away so they can investigate or report on it.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:54

And um journalists are still banned from Gaza.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:58

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:00

It was the deadliest war. The Gaza war was the deadliest war for journalists, I believe, like on a per capita basis. Like so many like there was a thing where they bombed a hospital, Israel did. The journalists came to report on it, and then they bombed the journalists when they came to report on the hospital bombing.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:17

Just barbaric shit, in my opinion. Just barbaric, you know, like with the guy um sledgehammering the uh statue of Jesus on the crucifix.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:32

Yeah, that was yes, those were Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon, uh very old Christian community, very old Christians there.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:39

Just disgusting, just disgusting acts. Uh, you know, I could imagine that that's you know, religion was very important to those people, and uh they're probably very old timer kind of people, and I could just you know what's the need for that to put a ha a sledgehammer to it? What the fuck's your problem?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:58

So, yeah, religious desecration is is you know it's an old thing, but it's just uh it really really offends people, really gets gets at their you know core beliefs. Um and it's just totally inappropriate. Doesn't matter who it is, it doesn't matter if it's Muslims doing it to Jews, Jews doing it to Muslims, Christians doing it to Jews, whatever. Any kind of religious desecration is always just you know, like you said, why you gotta do that? Well, what's they gotta do that kind of thing? You know, and I think that's the thing too, is like most people at their core are-I mean, humans do have violent tendencies, but most people just want to live in peace, they want to raise their families, you know, they don't necessarily want war. It's you know, certain people want war because they make a lot of money from it or they have other motives, and so then they have to convince the general population to go along with it. And, you know, false flag attacks and um, you know, doing something and blaming someone else are just as old as you know, the the not everyone thinks that the Nazis just invaded Poland, but they they had a huge PR campaign against Poland, they had all these Polish aggressions that had befallen Germany, and you know, they they staged attacks against Germany, and Japan did the same thing with China. They blew up one of their railroad lines and said, look, the Chinese blew up our railroad line, we got to attack them. I mean, this has just been going on for a very long time, and the historical records pre-World War II are even more whitewashed, you know, than than they are recently. So this has probably been going on for a very long time. I mean, to get somebody to want to pick up a gun or a sword and go kill people that they've never met before, you you've got to really kind of tug at them. You gotta you gotta really do something that lights a fire under their ass. And I remember how people were in the US post-9-11. I mean, there was maybe 20% of the US just wanted to nuke the Middle East, they didn't care, they just wanted to go nuke Muslims, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:58

Absolutely. No rhyme and no rhyme or reason other than uh they hate us, they attacked us, we gotta get rid of them. They hate us because of our freedoms.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:09

We're just so darn free. So damn free over here, mate. We got Big Macs, we got Coca-Cola, 48 ounce, you know, big gulps. They hate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:20

They hate that shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:21

They want us to drink goat milk. That's why they that's why they blew up the Twin Towers. They want us drinking goat milk and rice.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

Yeah, man. Um so yeah, I mean just going back to my point uh that that you picked up on, you know, the the terrorism game has changed too, so in the false flag game. So yeah, you never know what the uh the future can hold now.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:56

We're ripe for one. You know, we haven't had a good a good false flag attack in a while. We haven't here in the US, we haven't had a good mass shooting. You know, in the 90s there was a big thing of going postal. You remember that phrase, or have you postal? All of a sudden, all throughout the US, postal workers started shooting up their workplaces. There was there was a video game called Postal, where you would go as a postal worker and you'd shoot up other postal workers. There was in the movie Jumanji when the um the safari guy with the big gun, he's chasing after Robin Williams, and he runs into the pawn shop and he's and he's slams a bunch of gold coins down. He wants to buy a gun, and the pawn shop guy says, You're not a postal worker, are you? That just stopped one day. All of a sudden, postal workers just for like eight years, that like just went crazy. It's like, oh, so some government workers that the CIA had files on all of a sudden just started going cuckoo, you know, and then you look at you know, school shootings, the school mass shootings, and some of the weird questions around, you know, Adam Lanza. Of course, you know, we don't really want to get too much into this because Alex Jones has been sued to high heaven, but maybe he was the scapegoat that they used. And then, of course, the granddaddy of them all, which is the Las Vegas shooting where the guy the guy had, you know, what thousands of pounds of guns and everything. He didn't even have time to reload. The official story is he he had bump stocks on like 20, 30, 100 rifles, emptied a clip, threw it, picked up another one because he didn't have time to reload.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:35

Yeah. I'd like to I'd like to get some some experts on that have dove into that because that one is uh some of the shit I've heard on that is just it doesn't make sense and it's just wild. And uh just like many things, it's some that just isn't really talked about anymore.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:55

You know, there's there's footage of the hotel they haven't brought in up. Um his brother came out and started to speak out all of a sudden they found you know terabytes worth of child images on his computer, he got locked up, right? Um, and then just the whole story kind of went away. It's like I wonder what the real purpose of that was because uh maybe maybe people have finally capitulated and realized that us Americans aren't giving up our weapons. Like we don't care, we don't care how many mass shootings there are, we don't care how many people die. We aren't like what are we gonna give up our guns like a bunch of a bunch of pussies? You know, um, and you know, America has some of the most permissive gun laws in like the entire world. Like the Czech Republic kind of comes close, but in in in terms of uh, you know, you could you can buy a gun here if you go to a uh actual gun store, they do a background check. Right. But uh you can do um you you can go to like a gun show or a private sale and you can buy from a private individual with with nothing. Right.

unknown 1:37:02

Nothing.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:03

You they don't do any background check, it's called the private sale thing. So it's like you know, the we're we're pretty permissive here in in the US, and it's it's not, I mean, no matter how many of these things they do, um, it's it's not going away. So maybe they finally just gave up.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:23

That's interesting though. I'd like to, we should I'm gonna look into that postal thing. Maybe we could do something on that because that's interesting, man. Go and post them, man. Go and post them up. Yeah, go and post them. Um yeah, I remember in Seinfeld with Newman, the postal worker, there's a few uh few references to that, and they even they even link um son of Sam, Berkowitz, to the postal service and and you know that kind of thing. So yeah, it's interesting. Uh let's um one other thing that I wanted to get to uh before we start wrapping up. Uh unfortunately, um you know it's uh it's not something that's in the moon in the um uh it's not um it's not something that we hear about all that much anymore compared to like the winter, but uh the whole ice stuff is still going on. Um and uh unfortunately, yeah, there's been another shooting um in Houston. Um and that sucks, man. Um I think his name here, Lorenzo Lorenzo Salgado Arajo. I guess it was a traffic stop, and he wasn't even the target of the search. Um witnesses say that um the the ICE officers just started shooting right away when they got out of the car. Um, I haven't seen any video or anything, and now uh Mexico's president vows legal action against US after ICE's uh shooting death in Houston. So that's just gonna create a whole bunch more uh can of bullshit for the US for ICE and all that stuff. So uh yeah, prayers go out to their family. That's uh that's awful. Um yeah. Sorry to have to end on a sad note, but uh that's okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:30

Now we can uh I I do have to get, but um, we could we could uh kick this one around for for a little bit here, um, discuss this last story. I it is interesting. Um so first of all, Mexico, the Trump administration put a lot of pressure on Mexico to stop dealing with Cuba. So this could be uh Mexico's way of getting back at Trump and using a you know political thing um against him. Um it is, you know, without getting into the the the trag, you know, the of course, yes, it is tragic um having people shot when they didn't uh commit any kind of violent crime, you know, you should only use deadly force if your um if your life is in danger or someone else's life is in danger. Um, but it is interesting. So in the US, we're like the only country that politicizes um deporting people that are here illegally. All other countries in the world, it's it's not like if you're there illegally, they just deport you, and it's not that big of a deal. But here in the US, it's like, well, wait a minute, like these people didn't do anything wrong. Like this is America, that's why because it's America, it's supposed to be America So a big thing is is it's happened for so long, illegal immigration, and these the there's so many illegals here that it would kind of shock the system if we got rid of them. Trump Trump has um upped the deportation numbers um post Biden, but there weren't like mass roundups of uh people in some towns, you know, of course he he did ramp up a little bit, but it's not like this huge, it's not like there's army troops on the streets rounding people up or anything. Um so, but yeah, this uh this thing here with this guy, um, very tragic. Uh, those other two situations, I basically like uh like Alex Predi and that uh that lesbian chick that got shot, so they were involved in a network that was like going around and following ice. Yeah, they had been following them and like honking their horns at them, and it was very coordinated.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:40

They had a whole militia going on, for lack of a better term.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:44

Almost like they wanted something like that to happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:46

Yeah, you know, they were really fucking with with ice, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:50

Yeah, and then it gives people you know, because then people that are uh Republicans in this country get on Fox News and they're like, ah, that's ridiculous, they shouldn't have been there in the first place. And you know, and then people get on, you know, MSNBC and they're talking about how terrible this is, and you know, it just becomes one of these uh left versus right things. Um, you know, illegal immigration is in this country, it's very much one of these, I don't want to say bullshit social issues, but it's similar to abortion where you know the people, the plebs can sit and squabble about it and uh kind of distracts us from some of the real shit that's going on. So what uh what what are your thoughts on on the shooting or um just immigration in general?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:36

Oh, it's terrible, man. Um, we we don't have to get into my thoughts on immigration right now. I know you gotta get going, but just to keep it quick, I mean it's terrible. Uh it's terrible that these shooties are happening happening, um, but I don't think people should be messing with ice like that. Um just I mean for their own safety, man. Strictly for their own safety, if if not anything. Um, you know, people are getting shot dead. Um but yeah, immigration, yeah. We we'll we'll have a talk on that uh another time, but um yeah, because that's that's a big can of worms. You can you can you can kick that around for quite a while. But um we'll wrap it up there, my friend. This was awesome. This was great, as usual. Um, I always have a great time uh kicking stories and and ideas and topics around with you. Um we'll see you, we'll see you Sunday. Um before you get going, let everyone know where they can find you for those um who don't know, who don't know you.

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